#🔧│keyboard_modding

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polar girder
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But it’s actually Bigs Lee

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Crazy, right?

halcyon obsidian
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thats cool big sly

polar girder
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Bruh

halcyon obsidian
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but I dont remember askin

polar girder
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I think you missed the point

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I wasn’t talking to you

halcyon obsidian
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and thats why I called you big sly

polar girder
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👍

halcyon obsidian
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dang I didnt notice that bigs-lee

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I always thought it was big sly

polar girder
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Word homie

halcyon obsidian
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lmao

polar girder
median spade
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Here my wooting before I completely change it by adding Geon Raptor switches, and then putting it in a frog mini. These L60 are honestly some of the worst keyboard switches I've ever had the "pleasure" of modding KEKW

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205g0, tx plate mount stabs, pc plate with silicone, and gmk wob keycaps

fluid ravine
polar girder
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It happens all the time lol

halcyon obsidian
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maybe you should change it to BigsLyee or BigsLy33

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if you want people to be able to more easily notice

fluid ravine
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sounds guchi

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:D

gaunt linden
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Whats so good about the new raptor switches ?

fluid ravine
gaunt linden
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And i just finished modding my l45’s 🥲

gaunt linden
median spade
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Don’t feel too bad unless you don’t care about price. They’re only from Geon in Korea so you pay $25 in shipping on switches

fluid ravine
harsh dove
harsh dove
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Otherwise from KR they were $90 for me

median spade
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You sure it’s the HE and not normal raptor

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Last I checked they didn’t have them

harsh dove
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Yes

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lol

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I have them already

median spade
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Oh yeah that literally had to have been like super recent

harsh dove
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Yeah it was

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Like this week

median spade
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Oh checks out I was looking last Friday lmao

harsh dove
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Ordered Monday and got them Thursday

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Oh okay lmao

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Sorry ordered on Tuesday actually

median spade
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Not that it matters as I got a frog mini to put my wooting in so just added the switches, but that’s cool diviniky has them now

harsh dove
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Can I ask which frog mini you got?

median spade
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Silver winkey since black is only aftermarket now sadly

harsh dove
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Oh okay

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Yeah I’m interested in getting one maybe

median spade
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You’ll have to get a plate cut too which I’m sure you know

harsh dove
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Yeah

median spade
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Do you have the raptors in your wooting already?

harsh dove
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Yep yep

median spade
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Thoughts?

harsh dove
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Well I finished lubing them last night at 3am and then did one test video and went to bed lmao so I haven’t gamed with them yet but I brought my board to work today and have been using it and it’s nice

median spade
harsh dove
median spade
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I’m gonna try them stock and then see if I want to lube them after

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Notice the magnet difference for typing at all? Or nah

harsh dove
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They’re pretty good stock tbh but as I was taking them apart I noticed an inconsistency on lube on one side of the stem rails for all of the switches, one side had more lube than the other and sometimes even no lube on one side

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The bottom housing lube was pretty consistent tho

median spade
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Hearing that and knowing myself I’ll probs be opening them and modding PepeBeat

harsh dove
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Yeah lol that’s how I am

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I like to do things myself

halcyon obsidian
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is the foam they include with the module any different then the default foam

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because the foam in the module is "for aluminium cases"

bronze grove
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Same foam as the alumaze case. The foam from the 60HE is two layers and not suited for most aftermarket cases.

halcyon obsidian
wind karma
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does the HE+ module come with poron or silicone pads?

bronze grove
wind karma
bronze grove
wind karma
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okay cool!

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what are the sound profiles of both?

void hollow
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my stab keeps getting stuck how would yalls fix it?

wind karma
void hollow
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my r shift

wind karma
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did you take off your r shift keycap and ‘investigate’

quiet bay
void hollow
void hollow
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i pretty much just changed the plate

wind karma
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hmm

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it gets stuck when you press the key right

void hollow
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my 6am brain forgot to try to fix it before asking a question

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yea

wind karma
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are you able to pull it back out just fine

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or is iy litetally hard stuck

void hollow
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yea i can pull it back out

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sometimes itll get stuck and it resets itself after like 5 seconds

fluid ravine
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check if the clip is fully extended

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if it is

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then its prob keycap tolerance

wind karma
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i had this issue with my non wooting keyboard

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and i fixed it im just trying to remember how

void hollow
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i fixed it

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u know the stab thing u have to press in to release it

wind karma
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woah

fluid ravine
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the clip

void hollow
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i just used the end of a lube brush to push it back out

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LMAO

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i was like trying to type out xmas gift ideas on a notepad and that really annoyed me alot

fluid ravine
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lmao

void hollow
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honestly never thought that the rshift would annoy me tbh

wind karma
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ohhh

void hollow
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any solutions to very hollow sounding keyboard?

wind karma
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heavy case? tempest tape mode? never tried these but im pretty sure those help

void hollow
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or could it be due to the cheap doubleshot pbt keycaps that i got from like aliexpress

void hollow
fluid ravine
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case foam

wind karma
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oh yeah

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i assume you used the stock wooting foam .. right

fluid ravine
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you can get dense dampening foam

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kilmat for example

void hollow
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lemme drop my mods

fluid ravine
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and aa soundd test

void hollow
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xD

fluid ravine
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lemme get an idea

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i dont remember jack shit

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mb

void hollow
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maybe i could try again, give me a sec to pull out audacity

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Keycaps: Shopee Double-shot PBT Side Legends, Black
Switches: Wooting L45

Plate: KBDFans FR-4 Plate
Tempest Mod: Scotch Blue Painter's Tape
PCB Foam: Wooting Stock Foam
Case Foam: Con-tact zip-n-fit foam mod```
stable kindle
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@fluid ravine what are your thoc plans for this thoccy weekend thoc prince

fluid ravine
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so i cant do anything at school this weekend

void hollow
void hollow
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and what keycaps are you using xD

fluid ravine
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1.5mm thickness
cherry profile

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dye sub

fluid ravine
void hollow
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i really feel like its my keycap issues tbh

stable kindle
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@fluid ravineschool on the weekend the fk?

fluid ravine
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lel

wary pollen
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it do be like that

stable kindle
fluid ravine
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church

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bible

stable kindle
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ahh i see, you enjoy it?

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i remember having to go to sat school on saturday at church then another say school on sunday

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shit was not cool

fluid ravine
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boring

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so much more boring thaan normal school

stable kindle
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i can def see that

fluid ravine
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rip

stable kindle
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damn man

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i feel ya

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been through it all

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lol

fluid ravine
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2pm-7pm (including mass)

stable kindle
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oof

fluid ravine
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@void hollow

void hollow
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do you glue the polyfill?

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how do you find the screwholes 😭

wary pollen
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no need for adhesive

stable kindle
cyan adder
stable kindle
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not the other way around

void hollow
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damnn

low knot
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5214298

Soybean60 - 60% Keyboard Case by notemman

This is modeled after the Tofu60 keyboard case and should fit most plates and PCBs. There are no stand offs for screws, the PCB kinda just sits on the lip inside the case.
I printed my in two parts on my resin printer, I didn't bother to glue both halves together as the plate and PCB holds the two sides together. Also keeping them in two pieces ...

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gunna rock that for a while till i can bear the economic weight of a real tofu

fluid ravine
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if you use tray mount just space the polyfill away from the standoffs

fluid ravine
void hollow
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yeah that was a dumb question tbh

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gluing it pretty much just defeats the whole purpose of using polyfill

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7am brain goes soft

fluid ravine
void hollow
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hmm, its actually using the stock case foam together with a layer of the con-tact

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since the full stock case foam wont fit the tofu redux

sand oasis
void hollow
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but still sounds really hollow though

sand oasis
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ive got both in and it was a tight fit but sounds the best

sacred harness
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whats a good budget red case swap to make my 60he feel premium

kind helm
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acrylic case for wooting 60he? i checked tofu60 redux but i dont understand why acrylic version is more expensive than alu

loud zephyr
finite gate
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Acrylic is way easier to be scratched and cracked

finite gate
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gotta mark it up to cover price of returns and refunds

kind helm
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most acrylic cases i found other than the one from kbd are cheaper than alu. but ofc most cases dont support wooting and has their own pcb

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like the stuff from akko

finite gate
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redux acrylic supports wooting

kind helm
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yea i prefer acrylic just because its lighter and softer so should sound deeper compared to alu

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and eaiser to move around

finite gate
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Theres rehouse60

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Acrylic case

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should support wooting

kind helm
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and does look like can be compatible with wooting

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thank you

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I probably buy it in the beginning of next year see if it works

wary pollen
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I don't think the Rehouse60 is compatible for two reasons

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7u spacebar bottom row, and you'd need to drill in standoff holes for the Wooting PCB

finite gate
daring dome
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Does anyone know this keycaps?

quiet bay
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bruh replied to wrong person mb

quiet bay
daring dome
kindred musk
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anyone with the alumaze case have any suggestions for mods

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ngl this thing sounds horrendous with the pinging

loud zephyr
upbeat nova
pale aspen
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https://kbdfans.com/products/raptor-he-gaming-switch-1

KBDfans® Mechanical Keyboards Store
Raptor HE Gaming Switch

Specs Linear, hall effect Pre-Travel: Analog Total Travel:  4.0mm Operating Force: 42g Bottom-out Force: 52g Spring: 16.0mm, NAS wire Single-Stage spring Stem: POM Top Housing: PA12 NYLON Bottom Housing: PA66 NYLON Factory Lubed Mounting pins: 2pins Friendly reminder: Confirmed compatible keyboards: Wooting 60HE,KAKKA6

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kbdfans now sell Raptor HE

sand oasis
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WOOOOO
finally a website that ships to the UK

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no way

pale aspen
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i mean

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u guy have problem with brexit

sand oasis
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yeh

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its annoying

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geon you had to spend 200 plus

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another website cant remember which one was 150

pale aspen
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well with chinese

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they always have the way to ship you lol

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willing to sell willing to ship

sand oasis
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yep

wispy peak
pale aspen
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what

sand oasis
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its not 300

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you only need 7 packs

wispy peak
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i put in 60 and it said 288

sand oasis
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cause the defualt is pack of 10

wispy peak
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oh

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only 33?

sand oasis
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yeh that was the same from geon

wispy peak
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sheesh i will get them then lmao

marble shuttle
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i hope they put on aliexpress

pale aspen
marble shuttle
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thanks i forgot they closed to ship turkey i will tell them open 😄

polar girder
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They got these new mahjong jade HE switches, reportedly working with Wooting PCB too

fluid ravine
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Gooood morning

void hollow
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reccomendations for keycaps

velvet egret
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Are there any official reviews on the Raptor HE, compatebility and sound?

marble shuttle
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@wary pollen hey, are you online ?

harsh dove
velvet egret
harsh dove
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This is exactly same case and mods, but with Switch Tape Modded Lekker60s

velvet egret
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Hmm hard to tell then.. Cuz switch tape is making the lekkers more muted

harsh dove
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Yeah

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Only thing I did with raptors was hand lube

velvet egret
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No issues with sensors? Wooting pcb is calibrated to lekker switches not other he switches if i remember correctly

timid geyser
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when putting the switches in does it matter what rotation they go?

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or does it reply on the keycaps?

harsh dove
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Correct. The wooting PCB will assume you have lekkers in. The raptors have stronger magnets so if you’re used to having like 0.4mm it’s gonna feel more sensitive than that with Raptors @velvet egret

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But whether you see that as an issue or not is up to you

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You really just change your actuation points or get used to the raptors sens

velvet egret
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Ah alright, Thanks! I wonder if it would be possible to combine the switches as in use the magnet from a L60 and the spring and place those in the raptor

harsh dove
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It is

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Few people have done it here

velvet egret
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😮

crimson sky
harsh dove
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Calling it the frankensswitch

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But yeah you just swap the lekker stem

spice herald
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swapping the stem is the right move 😎

velvet egret
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Is the magnet attatched to the stem?

harsh dove
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Yes

velvet egret
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I dont have the switches yet they are coming with my module so not sure

harsh dove
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It’s inside the bottom

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You can see it

velvet egret
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aight hmm that might be a shout then.

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could i also use the l60 spring? i like a little heavier spring

harsh dove
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I believe you can, yes

velvet egret
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Noice, That's awesome

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Especially that you can swap the stem since then it doesnt mess with the calibration

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Other than the Lekker, Ks20 and Raptor there hasnt been any other released HE switches right?

harsh dove
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That are compatible with wooting, not that I know of

pale aspen
polar girder
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Does that work? It’s only on Taobao and I don’t have that setup

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Coming to aliexpress soon they say

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This where I learned about it

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POM stem, top housing PC, bottom housing nylon

sweet cedar
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has anyone done any sound tests with them?

marble shuttle
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nott yet

low knot
pale aspen
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i could order but

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already have geon

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long pole HE switch?

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long magnet probably

polar girder
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HE switches are like Pokémon

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Gotta catch ‘em all!

sweet cedar
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from the images do u guys think lekker stem swap is possible/necessary?

proven tendon
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For the raptor x lekker mod which spring should you use

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Or does it matter

velvet egret
proven tendon
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Ok so just preference

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I’ll probably use raptor spring then

pale aspen
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such stupid layout imo

harsh dove
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I doubt this is it

pale aspen
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if it real, they probably want to keep covnetional-sized keycap so much

harsh dove
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I feel like they'd go for something more compatible

fluid ravine
harsh dove
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At all

fluid ravine
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fr

bronze grove
pale aspen
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in reality, every pudding/gamer/clone set support every layout except 40%

bronze grove
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It's TKL minus a couple of keys.

pale aspen
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yep that is what i mean

fluid ravine
pale aspen
harsh dove
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The speculated LED placement is throwing me

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I need uniformity

fluid ravine
harsh dove
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Symmetry

fluid ravine
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i expect it to be like above the arrow keys

harsh dove
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Yeah

stray tiger
# pale aspen

Be aware that not all HE switches work with the Wooting board (not even all Gateron HE switches)

void hollow
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its so off putting xD

harsh dove
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It's almost as if it's a wireless keeb and the LED is battery life

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I don't like the placement at all

pale aspen
bronze grove
harsh dove
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Ah gotcha, thanks

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Not a fan of the vertical

stray tiger
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Those might be but I'm just letting you guys know there are some that don't, even if they look like they do. For example the Gateron KS 37-B won't work

fluid ravine
bronze grove
harsh dove
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^

pale aspen
harsh dove
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I was gonna say anyone can say its wooting compat. but without providing actual test, those are just words

fluid ravine
stray tiger
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They are a double rail design that utilize a square magnet and they arent compatible.

fluid ravine
stray tiger
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Even Gateron states they aren't compatible

harsh dove
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Yeah the dual rails

pale aspen
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also, wooting could implement 7u bottom row without including 7u keycap
just like coventional mx pcb

stray tiger
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I'm all in favor and encourage you guys to mod and test but do a little research first. I'm always around if you have a question.

pale aspen
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toggle in wootility between 6.25u and 7u

harsh dove
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I love testing new things

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Even if they don't work

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Knowledge is power

stray tiger
harsh dove
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^

pale aspen
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why?

marble shuttle
pale aspen
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in mx you can

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HE = no pin

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just need pcb spot

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or it is too close?

stray tiger
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But the sensor position runs into the same roadblock as the socket issue

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Yes

pale aspen
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too bad

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it is ez in MX

stray tiger
stray tiger
pale aspen
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solder is heresy for HE

stray tiger
harsh dove
stray tiger
harsh dove
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Same

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Vertical is poo poo

fluid ravine
stray tiger
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I've got a board to build still that was just mill maxed. Maybe next week.

harsh dove
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Can't wait

fluid ravine
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mill max..

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sounds familiar

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OH keybored

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turn solder pcb to hotswap

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o

harsh dove
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Yeye

fluid ravine
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i rememba

harsh dove
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MillMax is the way

stray tiger
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Wanted to do it next week but my gf has surgery on Tues so it's going to delay things a few days. Hopefully not long

harsh dove
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Ah okay gotcha, hope surgery goes well!

fluid ravine
stray tiger
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Just noticed my raptors were delivered yesterday. I'll grab them from the box later today and maybe I can at least try those out this weekend.

fluid ravine
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oo

harsh dove
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Nice! Would like to hear your opinions on them once you install

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I still have yet to game with mine lol

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Need to do that today

stray tiger
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I don't think I have any extra lekkers around to stem swap with but if they are promising maybe I'll break down another board

harsh dove
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Yeah, I haven't stem swapped either, just using stock hand lubed Raptors

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I'll probably try it out tho

stray tiger
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While my gf is recovering I should have plenty of time to knock out some lubing though.

harsh dove
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Haha awesome

pale aspen
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also i forgot to post in this

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Neo reveals their HE switch

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and 65% he pcb for neo65

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soon will explain to other Neo and QK lineup

vivid gulch
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Any options for a different accent piece on the alumaze? Anyone make custom alternatives, paint it, or any pics of what it looks like removed?

loud zephyr
harsh dove
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What is this line?

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Did they scratch it?

bronze grove
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yes

harsh dove
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Figured

loud zephyr
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that's gotta hurt

onyx pier
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Top housing is pc for the gateron he switches

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Interesting

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Wonder how will it sound

loud zephyr
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it will sound like an input device commonly knows as keybeerd

onyx pier
shrewd hatch
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H3y @harsh dove @fluid ravine for the bandaid mod are you supposed to use the middle of the bandaid part with the padding? Or just the outer bit

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I did the padding in the middle and my keyboard has been playing up since haha

fluid ravine
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part

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you cut the strip to size and place it on the pcb

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under the staabs

shrewd hatch
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Ohh I did the actual foam bit

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It sounds amazing but been having issues with performance

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Thabks

fluid ravine
harsh dove
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The foam padding of the bandaid is too thick and messes with the actuation points

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Have to use the thin adhesive

timid geyser
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does it matter what way the switches go into the board?

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or does it just matter what switches u have

obsidian dagger
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north and south facing are ok

timid geyser
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would it affect rgb?

obsidian dagger
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yes

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the leds are north.

timid geyser
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it only matters cus of keycaps or what?

obsidian dagger
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the switches have a little led window

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if they are turned south it no longer matches

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so it will be dimmer

timid geyser
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so like why would i have to switch the switch around tho

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to make it fit a keycap or?

obsidian dagger
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usually there is no reason.

timid geyser
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so i can keep it north yes?

obsidian dagger
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yes.

timid geyser
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it would fit a cherry mx keycap?

obsidian dagger
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yes

timid geyser
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cus someone told it wouldnt

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ah right cheers mate

obsidian dagger
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that is ancient info

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gateron used to have that Problem years back, but it was adjusted

timid geyser
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oh

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🤣

obsidian dagger
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you mean cherry profile tho? cherry mx is the stem

fluid ravine
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yeah switches lately these day have a different mold for it not to interefere with cherry profile keycaps

timid geyser
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nah i mean the switches fit the keycaps made for cherrymx

fluid ravine
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lekkers are in the newer generation switches so you can have them north facing without any problems

obsidian dagger
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cherry mx is the stem

fluid ravine
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profile*

obsidian dagger
fluid ravine
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ah

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ok ima go back to what i was doing

timid geyser
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ah ye it will fit

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obsidian dagger
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you are kind of confusing two Things here

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it will fit cherry mx stem and it always did

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and turning it around doesnt change that

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what does change is the housing, which used to interfere with cherry profile

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which is a keycap shape

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anyway, it works

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just fyi

timid geyser
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ok thanks

marble shuttle
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@stray tiger hey tirade does the pcb module will work with frog mini if i make plate for it.it is work with normal wooting pcb

loud zephyr
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You'd need a revised version that supports screw-in stabs

stray tiger
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I'm like 95% sure but you could 3D print one first to test and see.

surreal lagoon
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Hello, can someone recommend me an O ring for the wooting? Im from germany and i dont want to pay the high taxes for an O ring.

stray tiger
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I think Graveshift has a euro store. I'd check there

knotty breach
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Hey guys the l45 is more liger than l60

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Who is more faster?

loud zephyr
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Even L200 if they were to exist

untold wigeon
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Why did he bring in shroud

harsh dove
glacial wind
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They’d both be the same speed because the force you push down on the key is way higher than needed unless you feather push your keys

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The only change would be fatigued long term if you were to spam the key in a game like osu for example

polar girder
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L45 go down quicker. L60 come back up quicker.

glacial wind
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Yep. It’s why talking about speed changes is kind of pointless. Only thing people should be worried about is if they like a light or heavy press

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Well that and the change in timings of the press is also so minuscule that they don’t matter. It’s like worrying that standing on a chair outdoors will change how hot you are because you’re closer to the sun

sage flicker
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as long as the finger releases, the lighter switch moves up and then you can repress it down faster.

fluid ravine
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rapid trigger doesnt have to be .1mm keep in mind

glacial wind
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A tighter spring goes up faster

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But again both the up and down differences are so small that it’s not really something that you’d measure or notice the impact of in any game

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This idea that lighter = faster downpress has been disproven before in actual pressing timing tests because the force you push down a key is so many magnitudes higher than the force required

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It affects fatigued but not really timing or speed of the press when you’re not fatigued

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The difference is minimised even more when you take into account that a lot of people are using low actuation settings combined with sensitive rapid trigger

polar girder
polar girder
spring magnet
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got the orange Tofu 60 Redux, any key cap suggestions for orange keycaps?

thorny canopy
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Does tofu redux have enough space for tape modding?

spring magnet
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yes

marble shuttle
silver pecan
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anyone know where to get really nice keycaps?

loud zephyr
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Wooting's website

silver pecan
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Yo Ik I’m not tweaking, do ur enter keys sound different on each side? Mine sounds like it’s poppy on the left and sounds normal on the right, anyone have that too or am I trippin

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Lmao sno jed prolly thinks I’m a schizo

glacial wind
silver pecan
glacial wind
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Don’t they do plenty of Japanese lettering stuff?

silver pecan
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also did u see my video?

glacial wind
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What type of color?

silver pecan
glacial wind
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I didn’t notice anything particular about the enter key sound, but phone sound is always going to be bit hard to hear stuff

silver pecan
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its like really poppy on the left

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but on the right its normal

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shouldnt they sound the same on both sides?

glacial wind
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Osume has something coming up that maybe you might like

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Comes with Japanese lettering option too

silver pecan
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im tryna kinda match the color with this

image.png
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doesnt have to be exact obv but i dont want it to be like contrasting

glacial wind
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Then what about this set

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Also has Japanese letter option

untold wigeon
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is this the salvation

loud zephyr
harsh dove
silver pecan
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yo this might be a shit question but all krytox 205g0 is the same right? like it doesnt matter where i get it from does it?

quiet bay
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as long as its 205g0

untold wigeon
finite gate
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Get krytox from actual reputable vendors (cannonkeys, kinetic labs..)

finite gate
harsh dove
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Same board/build with raptors , gummy o ring mounted into the Alumaze60

silver pecan
finite gate
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They are legit and sell real krytox, but they are closing store

silver pecan
finite gate
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Probably legit

fringe torrent
delicate peak
marble shuttle
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if i put kerby photo i will prob banned

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👌

proven tendon
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it’s so nice

wind karma
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did you do a sound test with all the switches like that

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i want to get both switches and do this for my wooting build if theres really no disadvantage to this i think

proven tendon
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No it’s not my video

wind karma
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ohhh

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mb

proven tendon
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It’s the only one I found with a good comparison though

wind karma
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yeah it sounds much better imo

proven tendon
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I ordered raptors yesterday to do this mod but I’m kinda scared that they are gonna take until February to come

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Traumatized from buying the module and finalmouse

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😭

agile grove
wind karma
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well lmk how it goes

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and a sound test would be really nice

proven tendon
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Will do

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I don’t know if I have enough 205g0 so I might just leave factory lube

pale aspen
glacial wind
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pretty interesting. Very nice clacky sound

pale aspen
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i still looking for the way to join Neo80 China GB

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sad

harsh dove
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Gonna grab some coffee and test out the Frankenswitch

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untold wigeon
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i hate how good it look

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s

harsh dove
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Lmao

onyx pier
pale aspen
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same one yes

onyx pier
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might grab it to try

wind karma
wind karma
harsh dove
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Yoo

wind karma
harsh dove
wind karma
harsh dove
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Stock raptors hand lubed

wind karma
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you preferred them to the sound of the lekkers, correct?

harsh dove
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Yeah, the sound is a bonus, I had my Lekkers Switch Tape Modded , but stock raptors have less housing and stem wobble overall

wind karma
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are you doing the Frankenstein thing right now lol

marble shuttle
harsh dove
harsh dove
marble shuttle
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😄

harsh dove
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Lmao

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Bros like yeah just go buy $130 cable

marble shuttle
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hahahaha

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bro dont complain you got salvation case

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🤣

harsh dove
marble shuttle
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🙂

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buy or riot

harsh dove
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I already got a Lindy x LEMO on the way

wind karma
harsh dove
marble shuttle
wind karma
# harsh dove

am i slow for thinking it was going to be really dim or something cause it's dark red

harsh dove
harsh dove
marble shuttle
marble shuttle
wind karma
harsh dove
marble shuttle
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alright thank you again brother

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nightcrawler is menace for the money 😄

harsh dove
velvet egret
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Is the white one the White ks20 from gateron?

harsh dove
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No they’re both lekkers lol

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One is standard L60 and next to it is another L60 with a Raptor Stem

velvet egret
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ah gotcha

wind karma
# harsh dove

are you going to test L60 with raptor stem and Raptor with L60 stem

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on your keyb

harsh dove
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I guess I could

wind karma
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typing test would be cool

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thatd be pretty time consuming though??

high umbra
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any recommendations for TKL cases once the Wooting TKL comes out? Not sure if i want to go with a Tofu Redux 60% version or stick to my good old TKL

placid blaze
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I love that we can have frankenswitches now lmao

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I've been looking to get heavier springs and sadly have had no luck
If anyone finds springs that are harder to compress than L60 springs let me know, I will guinea pig for people :^)

harsh dove
gaunt linden
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Has anyone done holee mod on the stabs?

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Or should plumbers tape mod make a better job?

bronze grove
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So asking people for case ideas is... Premature

harsh dove
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I prefer plumbers mod but if you get tx Ap stabs then you don’t need either imo

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Or some equivalent

wind karma
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you better send some sound tests here

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:D

harsh dove
#

The Black Pepper 60s and the Peppermint HEs

old swallow
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finally, some good food

harsh dove
wind karma
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black pepper 60s

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😭

zealous delta
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which are the best analogical switches for the 60he

old swallow
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thats all preference, the L60's are good, the L45's are the same but lighter. could go raptor HE, which is different in other ways

harsh dove
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Stock Raptors Hand Lubed vs Raptor x Lekker Stem Hand Lubed

wind karma
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omg

placid kernel
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nice test, also very curious abt how the black peppers sound? im a bit concerned with the economic viability of this mod (not that switch modders care)

harsh dove
#

Same test but in the Alumaze60 Gummy O Ring Mount

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First test is in the Salvation

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Night time vids are stock raptors, day time vids are stem swapped raptors

low knot
#

dang i missed out on getting a brass plate for the tofu

wind karma
harsh dove
wind karma
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ah okay

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material of the salvation?

harsh dove
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Alu

wind karma
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weight?

harsh dove
#

case is 987g (2.18 pound)
brass weight 208g (0.46 pound)

weary tree
#

Is salvation worth the price in your opinion?

wind karma
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ah okay

velvet egret
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smell?

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jk

harsh dove
#

smells pretty good

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smells like bead blasted anodized aluminum

harsh dove
#

Main thing I'd keep in mind is you have no option for case foam so if you care about that or not is up to you

pale aspen
#

tofu redux still best all around

harsh dove
#

Unless you make some custom mod ig

pale aspen
#

imo i personally either buy Tofu redux or just get Frog mini

harsh dove
#

I like the Fjell too

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Been lookin at Fjell and Frog Mini

wind karma
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cam do you prefer the handlubed raptors or the frankensteins?

harsh dove
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mmh idk yet, the difference is minor imo

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it's there but it's minor

wind karma
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yeah, honestly

harsh dove
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I gotta try these black peppers lol

wind karma
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the raptor x lekker stem doesn't sound 'deep' enough for me though

harsh dove
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Yeah I feel like they're more poppy almost idk

wind karma
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i think i like the raptors more but they sound more rattly

wind karma
placid kernel
harsh dove
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brb, black pepper swap

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Ngl tho I do like how they sound in the alumaze

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Just in general

velvet egret
harsh dove
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Either one really

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Probably lean more towards stock raptors though

velvet egret
#

Why, Sound, feel?

harsh dove
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Slightly deeper sound and slightly looser feel

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With the Lekker stems it’s a bit tighter

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I like both honestly though

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Just comes down to preference

loud zephyr
velvet egret
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Alright Thanks CAM, Im curious what others think about the stock raptors vs mixed with the lekker switch stem

harsh dove
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Most seem to like the stem swap

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But I know Sno | Jed said he preferred the stock raptors as well

velvet egret
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Alrighty thanks! Might have to order some for myself to see

loud zephyr
#

Stem swap with a lighter springs is nice, but the tightness still brain drains me

wind karma
harsh dove
wind karma
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i might swap the spring and stem of Raptor for the spring and stem from the L45 if i do end up doing a frankenstein though lol

loud zephyr
# harsh dove Brain drains? Lol

I'm not used to having switches that have so little movement, but the sound is good that I don't have any foam in mine at all

harsh dove
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Ah okay gotcha

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I like the raptor springs tbh

wind karma
loud zephyr
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I have L50's and is just a tad lighter and MAYBE get rids of that weird resistance; probably placebo

harsh dove
wind karma
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i use 40g springs though so im used to really light

harsh dove
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Compared to L60 yes

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L45s no

loud zephyr
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Now Frankenswitch 4 parts, Cam

wind karma
wind karma
harsh dove
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Oh , yeah 60 is kinda middle ground

untold wigeon
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👋👋

harsh dove
loud zephyr
harsh dove
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lol yeah

loud zephyr
#

day #666: tkl wen

polar girder
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Dec 29th announcement

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Why still whining

wind karma
loud zephyr
#

whining and meming. I can tell the difference

wind karma
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the L45s sound identical to the 60 right?

loud zephyr
#

pretty much

bronze grove
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Myes

marble shuttle
loud zephyr
marble shuttle
wind karma
high umbra
harsh dove
#

Well, wrist rest lol

high umbra
#

same thing ^^

wind karma
#

has anyone ever made a "creamy" sounding 60HE

loud zephyr
#

Wooting's next project

wind karma
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is it even possible lmao

loud zephyr
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anything's possible

zealous delta
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what are the best 60he switches ?

harsh dove
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The black pepper 60s

polar girder
#

lol I hate those switches

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The lekkers with the raptor stem

harsh dove
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Lmfao

polar girder
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So flimsy and shit lol

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Matches the color scheme tho lol

harsh dove
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It’s so gross

polar girder
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lol yeah

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Worthless 🤣

wind karma
#

is PE foam safe for keyboards?

loud zephyr
harsh dove
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the black peppers feel so gross to type on

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I hate them

wind karma
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i want to try this on the 60HE but i don't want to risk any damage

wind karma
harsh dove
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yeah

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slightly

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so it's loose in the housing

wind karma
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damn

harsh dove
#

and just feels gross

wind karma
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i can only imagine

loud zephyr
wind karma
loud zephyr
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ahh, I was thinking bottom case foam

wind karma
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ohh

placid kernel
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ok think i'll just keep my raptors stocked then

harsh dove
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Lekkers with Raptor Stem (Black Peppers)

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With Switch Tape Mod

wind karma
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well when people say PE foam mod they're usually referring to the foam sitting above the pcb and under the plate

sweet cedar
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i was thinking ab getting the raptors but now with the new gaterons ill probably just wait for those

wind karma
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black peppers aren't it i think

harsh dove
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Hell no

wind karma
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sounds more messy/rattly and i dislike that lol

harsh dove
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Yeah

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I’ll swap em into salvation and run test

wind karma
#

yep

loud zephyr
wind karma
loud zephyr
sweet cedar
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yea rn i have l45s on the way for when my module gets here

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but yea im definitely waiting a bit as ill be able to use the l45s in the meantime

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but im excited to see sound tests for the new gaterons whenever people get their hands on them

wind karma
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what are the new gaterons?

loud zephyr
#

some fancy dual rail

harsh dove
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Black Peppers in the Salvation

wind karma
harsh dove
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You should feel it

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It’s horrid

loud zephyr
wind karma
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i don't even want to... the wobble on my board already annoys me while i'm gaming lol

harsh dove
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lol

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Think I’m gonna run the frankenswitch Raptors for a bit

wind karma
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yup

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https://youtu.be/l27TpAgIYTY?si=csn_i9sQRDQyD6yw&t=432

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this is a PE foamed 60HE.. it has that rattly sound

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i want to try this with frankenswitch raptors

loud zephyr
#

that's a big ass cupcake

wind karma
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maybe it'll sound good

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the cupcake?

harsh dove
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Salvation with wooting foam lol

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Let’s try it

loud zephyr
wind karma
wind karma
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i just noticed

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wtf even is that AHAHAH

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burning rocks

gaunt linden
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@harsh dove do you recommend using bandaid mod for stabs?

loud zephyr
gaunt linden
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If using tx ap?

harsh dove
gaunt linden
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I mean the one where you put the bandaid sticky part into the pcb under the stabs

harsh dove
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TX AP have pretty tight tolerances

wind karma
harsh dove
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On the PCB

gaunt linden
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Thaaaaank you so muchhhhh

harsh dove
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Np

harsh dove
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Salvation with Alumaze Case foam and Frankenswitch Raptors

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(Never tried case foam in the salvation lol)

fringe torrent
#

blobaww dualshot

gaunt linden
#

@harsh dove

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Should i use those or normal bandaids ?

sand oasis
#

just raptor with lekker housing?

harsh dove
harsh dove
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Should be fine

wind karma
gaunt linden
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Thankssss

wind karma
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just making sure its the same

harsh dove
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Should be fine, yeah

wind karma
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alright

gaunt linden
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@harsh dove this ok?

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harsh dove
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yeah but you forgot right shift unless you don't care about that one

gaunt linden
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I just realized lol thanks for letting me know

harsh dove
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Lol np

gaunt linden
harsh dove
gaunt linden
#

Is it ok to leave it like that?

harsh dove
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Was fine to me

gaunt linden
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Thank you!

halcyon obsidian
harsh dove
halcyon obsidian
harsh dove
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Gonna use em for a bit and might go back to stock raptors

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Yeah they do lol

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One thing I am loving is the sound of this Salvation with Case foam in it, even though you're not supposed to do that lol

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It works out

wind karma
harsh dove
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tightness of lekker stem in raptor housing

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feels tighter than raptor stem

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just a personal preference thing if you like it or not

wind karma
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you mean less wobble?

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or theres more friction

harsh dove
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more friction

wind karma
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oh damn

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in that case uh

harsh dove
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its not that bad

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but noticeable imo

wind karma
#

yeah that still kind of bothers me lol

harsh dove
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It's something you have to feel yourself really

wind karma
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ruins the peace of mind for some reason

harsh dove
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cause its such a small difference

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hahah

wind karma
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does wooting still sell the 45g springs?

harsh dove
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Don't believe so, but they have a spring pack coming soon

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variety pack

wind karma
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ohh

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variety pack?

harsh dove
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Yeah, with various weights

wind karma
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in one pack?

harsh dove
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yep

wind karma
#

is that so you could test which one you would like the most

harsh dove
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I would believe so

wind karma
#

oh

harsh dove
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That way you don't have to buy entire sets of switches

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you can just swap springs

wind karma
#

yeah i guess

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there would be enough of each kind of spring for an entire keyboard?

harsh dove
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Idk tbh

wind karma
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i see

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guess we'll find out when its released

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btw do the stock hand-lubed raptors feel different to hand-lubed lekkers?

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if weight wasn't part of the equation

harsh dove
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Yes

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Less housing and stem wobble

wind karma
#

oh

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so it's just more stable

harsh dove
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yeah just overall tighter fit

wind karma
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and that's the only difference other than spring?

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feeling wise

harsh dove
#

yeah

wind karma
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guess ill just get those then lol

harsh dove
#

Are you US?

wind karma
#

nope, why?

harsh dove
#

Was gonna say get them from DiviniKey instead of straight from GEON

wind karma
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oh is it because of price?

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i'm not in the US

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so

harsh dove
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shipping

wind karma
#

o

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h

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what about kbdfans? i can get a redux with the raptors

harsh dove
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shipping was $60 for me through GEON ($25 for most people)
DiviniKey was $9 for Two Day shipping

harsh dove
#

the raptor HEs?

wind karma
wind karma
harsh dove
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Oh okay then do that

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if they do

wind karma
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yup they do

harsh dove
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yeah just make sure it's Raptor HE not Raptor MX

wind karma
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yup

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would be sad if i accidentally buy the MX's lol

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it doesn't say gaming switch for the MX i think

cyan adder
# harsh dove

whats the point in actually use the lekkers stems with raptor switches? im planning to place an order

wind karma
cyan adder
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i dont really get the difference

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because the lekkers stems fit tighter?

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raptors he are so cheap on kbdfans aliexpress store

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thats funny how i was chasing thock and spending 500 euros to get a thockky wooting and now i want clack xD

harsh dove
cyan adder
#

and what do u prefer

harsh dove
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I'm just testing them out rn really

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I'll probably go back to the stock raptors

cyan adder
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too tight?

harsh dove
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mmh nah it's not bad really, the raptor stems have a slightly deeper sound tho

wind karma
#

hey cam apparently the L45's don't have the wobble that L60's do

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you tried the L45's?

harsh dove
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Nah not yet, I have some on the way with the module

gaunt linden
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I cant really take a good pic

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But a screw seems to not fit with the new pc plate installed

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Is it normal?

polar girder
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Except stem color and spring

wind karma
gaunt linden
wind karma
#

less wobbly/rattly

wind karma
polar girder
#

Yeah I own both so whatever

gaunt linden
wind karma
gaunt linden
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Is it ok to not screw it?

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Ok found the problem

harsh dove
wind karma
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atleast in one person's recording

loud zephyr
#

unless Gateron made changes to their tooling, no way the L45's would sound any different to the L60's

wind karma
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yeah thats exactly what i thought

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til i saw that audio

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heard* sorry english moment

loud zephyr
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I wouldn't lean too much on one example though

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Just gaaaamme, forget modding

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Get gewd, frag TGLTN

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He doesn't even believe in spaebars

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wind karma
wind karma
loud zephyr
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oh yeah that's fair enough

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you'll have fun figuring it out