🔧│keyboard_modding

[devout torrent]

but you get the idea tho

so no big deal

[quiet bay]

wooting gotta start improving their own switches

[loud zephyr]

nah, not really, the targeted audience for their keyboards aren't nerding over switches

[quiet bay]

It'd make their product better tho c:

[loud zephyr]

they're saving the best for the TKL version

self-lubing switches

titanium housing

[onyx pier]

mansen kinda leak that there will be a new wooting switch in the future but who knows when

[fluid ravine]

Bet that will release in 2257

[fluid ravine]

but im one of those audience

[loud zephyr]

as if you play games, you pull your keyboard apart 10 times a day. you don't have time for games

[devout torrent]

I think once more and more competitors and what not come out they might ahve to improve

[harsh dove]

Finally finished lol

No more stupid dragon (MSI)

[fluid ravine]

ermmm does 1k hours on valo and still shit counts

wha about skool]

[loud zephyr]

no doubt there's always room for improvement, but I'm guessing it's not really high priority; not when every second youtube comment is: I'd cop if it was 75% or TKL

[fluid ravine]

FR

HAHA

thats all i see

[polar girder]

Yo I just need aluminum HE switches. NBD

[fluid ravine]

when it comes to wooting or some other rapid trigger keyboard

holy f

[fluid ravine]

you know what i need

[fluid ravine]

thats one chonky gpu
but handsome

[loud zephyr]

don't you get sick of playing the one game so much?

[fluid ravine]

no :)

im sick of roblox though
thats why i havent touched that shi except that one time

[glacial wind]

I’m sure it’s on the radar but takes time to change a switch at scale

[fluid ravine]

i was gonna try cs2

[loud zephyr]

Niiiice. I miss the ease of building in a larger case, SFF is such a pain in the knob

[fluid ravine]

but at the moment not yet

[harsh dove]

lol yeah I help a friend build his first SFF

and he wanted all white

Was a pain

[glacial wind]

Like for example just geon wanting to change his raptor switch top to clear option takes from now until march next year - and that’s at smaller quantities than wooting would need

[loud zephyr]

I just wanna wipe out my Steam Wishlist, there's like 500+ games I'd like to play

[harsh dove]

Like it’s one thing to go SFF but then to want all white as well

Kill me now

[harsh dove]

Lights on

[fringe torrent]

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[loud zephyr]

all that just to play Fortnite in performance mode

[harsh dove]

ew hell no

[loud zephyr]

lol

[harsh dove]

I don't play that

[loud zephyr]

no, but you probably should

[pale aspen]

$10 for single switch

[harsh dove]

Only reason would be because I'm interested in UE5

[pale aspen]

sff is ez

but white

[polar girder]

I’m with it lol

[harsh dove]

exactly lol

[polar girder]

Whatever it takes

[pale aspen]

sixge k2s or k3s

[loud zephyr]

I can't wait for some gimp to hide in the grass to ruin my game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tp4eg0ax8

looks noiiice

[harsh dove]

I'll check this out hold on

[pale aspen]

what is your freind resolution and fresh rate you play on?

i found SFF first before MechKeeb

MechKeeb is more absurd than SFF lol

[harsh dove]

I believe my friend was going for 1440p @ 120 fps

[pale aspen]

what game tho

fps?

or general

[harsh dove]

Mmh he plays like Halo n stuff

Not really competitive or anything

[pale aspen]

because with single fan gpu you could get rtx 4060/ rtx a4000

[harsh dove]

I think he has a 6700xt

[fluid ravine]

thats me!

someone gotta teach my about pc shi

i feel like im really behind

[craggy cipher]

I've finally come this far

[glacial wind]

one of us, one of us

i actually can't do the stem swap though since I have to pull out my raptors to swap to other board in a month

i think opening and reswapping 61 switches twice is too much even for me

[polar girder]

I have no ragrets

[pale aspen]

plesse tell use what is the best combo

probbably Raptor Housing + L45/60 stem

[polar girder]

Just thinking… but if I end up buying gateron double rail…. Raptor housing, l45 spring, gaterons double rail stem

[craggy cipher]

I'm willing to do anything to fix the rattling shaft, but it's still a pain 😂

[polar girder]

Also very curious

[pale aspen]

stem wobble is always there tho but less severe

you cant make it static

[polar girder]

Switch tape the raptors?

[pale aspen]

something it is from Keycap too

keycap might have loose stem

[glacial wind]

I might do it just for wasd, although honestly the rattle feel/sound is already gone on stock raptor so i'd be just doing it for the minor wobble improvement

[devout torrent]

yeah raptor + lekker stem is best for wobble from what I have seen

better than ks-20 + lekker stem

hopefully gateron double rail is really good too

[polar girder]

I’m down for whatever

[craggy cipher]

Sound test

[devout torrent]

whenever the heck that comes out

[pale aspen]

2024 Q2 we will have near perfect HE switch

[glacial wind]

i don't think gateron double rail would fit into any of the other housings

[devout torrent]

yeah that one would have be used on its own most likely

[polar girder]

Nice

Worth

[glacial wind]

i sent a msg to geon seeing if he has plans to improve the stem further since he was asking for feedback anyway

[polar girder]

Why stock raptor almost sound the same as stock l45 lol

All about the stem swap

Fk

[craggy cipher]

All are the same silicone oil lubricants.

[glacial wind]

nah it's not close, if anything it's phone sound not able to pick it up as easily

oh wait listening to it it's really obvious which one is the lekker lol

that rattle in 2nd switch is quite loud

[pale aspen]

second this

i think Stock raptor is enough for most people

normal people

remember when we thought Steel plate was the problem?
we got PC plate
and now we know the switch is the problem

[glacial wind]

yeah stock is honestly fine if goal is just to remove chatter sound/feel. Then you can do the stem swap if you really want even further stiffness with the stem

[pale aspen]

true

stem will always wobble as part of tolerance but the least the better

jsut make sure your keycap stem is not loose

sometimes it might due to keycap

[fluid ravine]

holy shi NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKING AABOUT

ok ngl

lowkey the stock raptors still kinda hurts my ears

lekkers more shitty though

raptors
👏

[polar girder]

Ikr

[pseudo flame]

I want to collect every HE switch like infinity stones

[polar girder]

That’s stem swap tho

🔥

[polar girder]

Same

[pale aspen]

it seem you like low pitch

[fluid ravine]

no not that

[pale aspen]

can always lube Raptor

[fluid ravine]

lmao

i dont mind high or low

i like clacks and thocks

[pale aspen]

dumb way to put it = calck = high pitch
thock = low pitch

my build is low pitch clack sonnet

[glacial wind]

depends on goals too honestly. Like my goal with my 60he is never to try make it sound exactly like my customs because I know it'll never get there

[fluid ravine]

its the chatter for me when it comes to HE switches like these

[glacial wind]

you can do a million tape and switch mods and it'll still not be close to say even a foamy zoom75 with morandis, but as long as mine is not feeling/sounding gamery plastic I'm happy

[quiet bay]

I hope the new layout wooting will make is gasket mounted 🙏

[pale aspen]

with gasket mount you gonna need stiff plate or stand off anyway

[glacial wind]

maybe a stiff gasket mount if they do gasket

yeah it's tricky with he boards because you need some level of stiffness if you want to be doing stuff like 0.15 rt

[pale aspen]

Top mount

might still need standoff

well maybe not if we go back to steel plate

[glacial wind]

geon's chat has affectionately labelled his stiff he mount the buttplug mount

[pale aspen]

i assume it is top mount with buttplug?

[quiet bay]

any type of bounce would be nice

[pale aspen]

like their tadpole which is top mount with tadpole instead of screw

[glacial wind]

yeah looks to be something like that. No idea when his n680 will release though since it's not even on his schedule yet

[pale aspen]

sad

i might actually have to buy Normal TKL to use first

while waiting for module

and sell module after N680 release

i think iirc they will sell Venom HE TKL pcb first

[glacial wind]

my plan was tigerlite 80 cheapie case until n680 comes out

then i just swap it over to n680 next year

[pale aspen]

Magnet axis compatible TKL PCB kit
Scheduled to be released in mid~end of November
Supported layout: F12/F13 TKL, 6.25u/7u compatible
Compatible keyboards: F1-8X, F2-84, FROG TKL, GLARE TKL, TIGER LITE, etc.
Compatible switches: Raptor HE, Gateron magnetic axis
Firmware: Own firmware
Performance: Scanning rate / polling rate 8000hz, latency 0.2ms
Self-function: auto-calibration, individual trigger setting (rapid trigger), key mapping, Korean language support, web USB support
Selling price: 94,000 won
Sales quantity: 300 each Magnet axis compatible TKL PCB kit

[glacial wind]

yep geon said it's almost done will release late december/early jan

[pale aspen]

at worst i have to buy used Tiger80 black

tiger is gasket isnt it?

it was too long, i cant even remember now

[glacial wind]

yeah tiger is gasket

I actually am curious what wooting is cooking for their layout though. Like a TKL/75 but with an lcd screen on it would probably be very hype

like a zoom98 style but without the numpad would make an interesting tkl/75

[quiet bay]

i should get a board from qwertykeys or meletrix one day

[glacial wind]

they're honestly great 'entry' level enthusiast boards

very foamy sound but still good

[glacial wind]

Fyi it looks like geon plans to improve stem even more in the stock raptors

his response was quite direct lol

[pale aspen]

ask him when Venom PCB release

[glacial wind]

ah he already mentioned it when he was asking other day about feedback on the switches

[pale aspen]

same month with Module+

[torn iris]

is getting a diff case necessary

[quiet bay]

No just preference

[placid kernel]

wondering if the raptors are southfacing by default?

[crimson sky]

Wdym

Depends on what way you put them in

[placid kernel]

i guess i mean if the rgb shine through is at the top or bottom when aligned with the logo

just wondering how bad the rgb interference really is

[static tendon]

Wooting used to have 2 versions of a PCB, one had something named ARM and the old one was named something else. Does anyone know what that name may be?

[obsidian dagger]

avr

mcu architecture that is

[static tendon]

Wooting also mentions this, a new MCU (Micro Control Unit) will be released around January 2024. Does this mean the wooting module will have this as well? Any way to confirm?

Link located here: https://wooting.io/post/we-have-a-proposal-for-you

[craggy cipher]

Completed

Everyone has their own tastes in sound, but I'm satisfied with it.

[bronze grove]

That is not what we said at all. 🙂

We've made a promise not to implement any changes that wouldn't be possible on the AVR models until January at the earliest, in order to give existing customers some assurance their keyboards wouldn't feel obsolete overnight.

And we've still been updating our older Flaretech models to have as much feature parity as possible, in spite of their older architecture. We haven't managed 100% across there, but we've pushed the chipset as hard as we could.

[static tendon]

Thanks for confirming. To help further clarify, in this case would the module use the latest “new” MCU that would support these future features which sounds to be released sometime in January 2024?

[bronze grove]

The Module is the exact same as the current 60HE, except for a slight shift of components on the PCB to allow for screw in stab support.

[static tendon]

Hopefully I’m understanding correctly, but all the current Wooting 60HE’s now use this updated ARM model?

[bronze grove]

Yes.

All 60HE's sold since... late last summer are.

[static tendon]

Gotcha, and sometime in the future, additional features will be added such as the following in the screenshot:

[austere creek]

if we can think of stuff that AVR cant do but ARM can yes. its no promise that there will be new features/functions

[static tendon]

I see, that makes sense!
I was wanting to confirm to make sure the module I just purchased recently would be capable of these new features down the line and sounds like it is 😁

[austere creek]

we dont make any AVR boards anymore

theres only 1 batch of AVR 60HEs which is the very first batch we ever delivered

[coral forge]

Hi guys ive got a question. what are the alternative for molycote grease for the stabilizer? Thanks in advance

[tepid eagle]

dielectric grease, krytox 205g0

[glacial wind]

don't use 205g0 for your stab outside of the housing, you want something thicker

[coral forge]

Such as? I'm new to these kinds of thing

[glacial wind]

the recommended ones above besides 205g0 work fine. Same with xht-bdz is popular as another option

basically it's just thicker lubes that get used on the stab wires usually

[coral forge]

So any dielectric grease is ok?

[glacial wind]

sure it's fine

any of the thicker greases work fine

[finite gate]

before u lube

bdz is very thick. Dont use on stabs with tight tolerances. 205 very thin. Do not use for loose tolerances. For dielectric, please dont use on stem or housing, will make it mushy. Dip the wire into dielectric, past the 90 bend. or wrap it in tape before you do for less tick

[coral forge]

Oke, thanks for the heads up

[pale aspen]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/N5QwbvxbmW8O

[devout torrent]

Sick

[harsh dove]

Good Morning all

[stray otter]

S'uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

[marble shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-kiss-gif-24016631

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/hairspray-good-morning-baltimore-gif-10212787

[normal schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-good-morning-philadelphia-philadelphia-gif-22305528

[stray otter]

FUCK YOU

[marble shuttle]

FUCK YOU TOO

[stray otter]

That really might be Murphy's best work.

He and Hall are perfect together

[balmy geyser]

anyone use grey alumaze with take control keycaps?

they goes well together?

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/black-awareness-nailed-it-emphasize-gif-12023741

[quiet bay]

Using my imagination that doesn't sound good

There are better keycaps you can use to match with the grey alumaze

[balmy geyser]

should i go with white or black backlit

from wooting

[quiet bay]

You know keycaps from wooting are not the only ones that can fit it right?

[static tendon]

You can also consider matrix keycaps located here https://matrixkeyboards.com/collections/keycaps

Great color options, I own 2 sets. These are OEM profile just something to keep in mind. Same profile as the wooting key cap sets

[devout torrent]

are you aware of any cherry profile ones?

all the ones I have seen are always oem

[balmy geyser]

since buying with the module have discount i rather buy the whole combo

[quiet bay]

I mean i would just buy the module with the alumaze and then get a third party keycap set that I like

[devout torrent]

yeah agreed

the stock caps are ok

nothing special

[static tendon]

You can try checking “Drop” for Cherry profile/DCX (since they’re practically identical profile) or higher end GMK sets and just keep an eye out for something that stands out

[tulip pumice]

Anyone know where to find some nice purple DSA keycaps? I am coming from mintlodica DSA Magic Girls, Which are perfect. But dark magic girl is all sold out. So I'm seeking an alternative. I bought a set of normal purple keycaps and they are too tall and feel weird.

[static tendon]

https://drop.com/buy/artifact-bloom-series-keycap-set-dark-dolch I like these for example. I’ve used them in the past. Also KBDfans sells some nice Cherry profile sets to consider as well

[fluid ravine]

I LOVE YOU

[marble shuttle]

❤️

[stable kindle]

Gay

[marble shuttle]

🤫

[edgy thicket]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805863863840

should i buy this

lmao

[normal schooner]

you can delete everything after .html those are media trackers

[edgy thicket]

thanks

[pallid echo]

is there any other way to buy a carbon fiber plate from kbdfans? their shipping is expensive ngl

[fluid ravine]

Check Ali

[quiet bay]

Isnt he looking for a plate that fits wooting

[pallid echo]

damn they do have it on ali

i wish i knew before placing my redux order

[fluid ravine]

KBD fans sell cf for wooting

[pallid echo]

does it really take 14 days to deliver through their ali store? amazon prime spoiled me with their fast shipping lol

[fluid ravine]

Idk

Haven't ordered from Ali b4

[quiet bay]

Yes

If veho doesnt update my tracking tmr

then wtf

[fluid ravine]

Ughh

How much longer

[devout torrent]

I meant for rubber but looks like none exist 😦

[pallid echo]

man i might just take the L and order from ali

hopefully doesn’t take until december 20th lol

[static tendon]

Oh, you’re attempting to find a Cherry profile rubber key cap set?

[static tendon]

Very likely will. Ali express takes usually more than a month from previous purchases I’ve made

[devout torrent]

Yeah but I don’t think any exist

It’s all OEM

And no full sets that I can find

Only 41 key max

[static tendon]

Yeah I don’t think I’ve seen Cherry profile rubberized caps before

[devout torrent]

Yeah nor full sets

[silk token]

Thanks. I have one on order.

[pallid echo]

what type of sound profile do you guys think the raptor he switches with a pc plate give me?

i’m hoping to get a somewhat clacky sound profile

[surreal linden]

How did yall put in the gummy o ring?

Mine usb port is slightly to the right so i can’t plug in my usb

Nvm I brute forced it and it worked

[cinder merlin]

u should put in the top side first so the port is correctly aligned

then slide in the rest of the sides

[surreal linden]

o I see

I just did all of them in

Like just tucked all the o ring in

And pushed it down

[surreal linden]

woah the gummy o ring actually made a big difference in sound

[silver pecan]

my spacebar sounds and feels really bnad

if i lube the switch and stabilizers, will it sound less hollow? or do i have to get new foam too

because the foam doesnt really reach the bottom of the board, im using the original foam from the wooting on the redux case

[surreal linden]

use tape and put some of it in

i just did mine rn lol

and it sounds a lot better

[silver pecan]

put some of what in

[surreal linden]

tape

in the spacebar

[silver pecan]

wtf

like the actual keycap?

[surreal linden]

here lemme pull up the video i used

[surreal linden]

yea

it actually worked surprisingly

[silver pecan]

did u tapemod the pcb too?

[surreal linden]

yea i did

[silver pecan]

did u notice a difference with that?

[surreal linden]

but the tape for spacebar works if you only want the spacebar to sound less hollow

and more thocky

[surreal linden]

ehh not really tbh

[silver pecan]

yeah thats what i want

[surreal linden]

but everyone else said it was great

[silver pecan]

yeah ppl say tapemodding the pcb does nothing really

can u send the video for the spacebar pls?

[surreal linden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WUcFeUQi_yU?si=yrgMiCFKu-FgYfye

its a youtube short

just put a thin layer of tape inside

dont put too much

or else the spacebar feels kinda stiff

[silver pecan]

can i use any tape

[surreal linden]

i meant the paper tape is what i used

im not use if other even works

i think it has to be the painter's tape

since its paper material

and thats what mades it thocky

[silver pecan]

yep just found one

gonna order it

[normal schooner]

watch our tape mod video

[surreal linden]

it doesnt have the spacebar one

i think

ik it has the pcb one

[normal schooner]

ooh wrong mod

[near barn]

totally unrelated to the current convo going on rn, but has anyone else found lube on the PCB after removing a switch? Not sure if it's because I overlubed or if weather change caused it the lube to start leaking through..?

[surreal linden]

o yea

i found lube on pcb too lol

i just wiped it off

[surreal linden]

also if your not using the wooting foam then you can try and use that

[silver pecan]

does tapemodding the pcb actually make a proper difference for wooting?

[surreal linden]

but when i tried it, it wasnt working too well lol

[surreal linden]

tbh i have tape there cause im using polyfill lol

[silver pecan]

yeah im using original foam

[surreal linden]

ah i see

[silver pecan]

but yo it doesnt reach the spacebar

like i pushed it all the way down

[surreal linden]

wait wdym?

[silver pecan]

its not long enough yk

to cover the very bottom

[surreal linden]

the tape?

[silver pecan]

nooo, the foam

[surreal linden]

im a little bit confused

[silver pecan]

i was saying, the foampad from the original case

it doesnt reach the bottom of the case

where the spacebar is

[surreal linden]

oh your suppose to push it down

[silver pecan]

meaning its like theres nothjing there, i pushed it all the way down so its kindaaa there

[surreal linden]

oh i see

maybe try and cut it more or something

[silver pecan]

yeah i did, did yours end up reaching the very bottom

[surreal linden]

for the spacebar

[surreal linden]

yea

i was shaping it every way possible lol

[silver pecan]

but theres not even enough foam for that

i took off the top layer

[surreal linden]

for the spacebar?

[silver pecan]

like peeled it off

yeah

[surreal linden]

you dont need to cover the whole entire thing

its a very thin layer

like just to cover the bottom a bit

so it dampens the sound

[silver pecan]

yeah thats how mine is

but i swear it didnt change

[surreal linden]

do you have a picture?

[silver pecan]

do u think it was pushed out of place

no because id have to unscrew it again, shoujld i just do that and make sure

[surreal linden]

im a little bit confused still

cause there should be way more than enough foam

unless your foam got screwed up or something

[silver pecan]

look, this is from someones youtube video

[surreal linden]

ohhh you got the tofu too

use the tofu foam

[silver pecan]

u sure?

[surreal linden]

ye

its more thin

so easier to get into

[silver pecan]

doesnt thinner mean worse

[surreal linden]

nah

its suppose to be thin

too thick and the spacebar isnt gonna go down

[silver pecan]

how come noone uses the tofu foam and they use the original

[surreal linden]

cause its really thin

for the case

but if you want it for your spacebar

its almost perfect

[silver pecan]

but like, the other keys would sound different too right

what if i just used both

[surreal linden]

wait are you talking about putting foam in your case?

or on your spacebar?

[silver pecan]

case

[surreal linden]

cause if you put it in you case then every key would be different

spacebar only makes spacebar different

[silver pecan]

yeah but should i use the tofu foam for the case, or the regular

[surreal linden]

what i did when i use foam was tofu + wooting foam

so you remember the top layer of the wooting foam?

[silver pecan]

yes

[surreal linden]

i just took that and placed it on the tofu foam

since the tofu foam can cover the whole base of the case

and then the wooting foam helps it dampens

[silver pecan]

alr bet ill do that thanks

btw, do u think lubing switches and stabilizers, and pcb would help

[surreal linden]

to help make it thockier?

[silver pecan]

like because theyre already lubed, so i dont get it

yeah because ngl mine doesnst sound very good

[surreal linden]

oh yeaaa about that

the prelube sucks lol

[silver pecan]

oh wtf

[surreal linden]

they dont cover the housing and top

[silver pecan]

bettt im getting it in a couple of days

[surreal linden]

only a bit on the stem

so i had to lube my housing and everything

which helped a lot

[silver pecan]

its my first time, is it easy to like mess up bad

[surreal linden]

nah its pretty easy

if you built a pc before then its easier to not screw up lol

but it takes a lot more time

[silver pecan]

yeah i heard, thats fine tbh my spacebar sounds sooo bad man

[surreal linden]

yea get the tape mod on it

[silver pecan]

i actually think theres something wrong beacuse it doesnt sound like everyone elses

it literally sounds like its loose

[surreal linden]

it can also be the keycaps ngl

[silver pecan]

really?

[surreal linden]

yea

[silver pecan]

my spcaebar keycap

[surreal linden]

some keycaps arent meant for thocky

[silver pecan]

has 2 holes in the middle

[surreal linden]

wait what

[silver pecan]

for the switch

ik its so weird

[surreal linden]

o

yea i got 3 holes

dw

[silver pecan]

three holes in the middle?

[surreal linden]

like 3 holes in general

[silver pecan]

yeah no i have 4

1 on each side obv

and 2 in the middle

[surreal linden]

o

wait mine might be the same

[silver pecan]

i think its for keyboard alignment orsomething, makes literally 0 sense

[surreal linden]

what keycap do you have?

[silver pecan]

i have kdbfans purploch

[surreal linden]

o

yea we have similar designs then

im using gmk

[silver pecan]

gmk keycaps?

[surreal linden]

tbh that should be fine for thock

[surreal linden]

yea

ill take a picture of my spacebar

i put a very thin layer of tape in there

and it helped with making it thocky

[silver pecan]

wtf is the tape white or smth

literally cant see it

[surreal linden]

o yea i molded it in

its painter's tape

[silver pecan]

ohh

[surreal linden]

but i molded it in so it doesnt feel stiff

[silver pecan]

im boutta use the tofu foam rq, gonna disassemble

[surreal linden]

ok

you can also use the tofu foam in the spacebar

but you gotta be pretty good at cutting

[silver pecan]

wdym in the spacebar

[surreal linden]

like you see what i did with the tape

you can replace the tape with foam instead

[silver pecan]

tbh ill just use the tape tmrw for that

[surreal linden]

okok

[silver pecan]

cause im gonna tapemod too, the pcb

[surreal linden]

yea tape is easier to use too

[surreal linden]

your using the tofu 60 right?

for case

[silver pecan]

Yeah redux

[surreal linden]

o

yea a major difference in sound was actually using polyfill

instead of foam

cause its an aluminum case

[silver pecan]

Polyfill?

[surreal linden]

yea

if you got a stuff animal or something

its the stuffing in there

[silver pecan]

wtf lmao

Nah I don’t

[silver pecan]

That’s actually hilarious keyboard modding is literally so unorthodox

[surreal linden]

yea lol

[silver pecan]

I seen ppl use Kleenex

[surreal linden]

really?

what the

[quiet bay]

Yeah people have put pennines and play doh in their keyboard 🤣

[silver pecan]

It’s really hard to put the original foam in place

Can I just move it to the top?

I’m tryna align it so its pushed to the bottom but I don’t think it matters

[surreal linden]

wait wdym?

[silver pecan]

Yk how there’s a square

For the holes

[surreal linden]

yea

[silver pecan]

I’m tryna make it so the hole touches the top of the square

[surreal linden]

the foam should be on the top

[silver pecan]

Oh really?

[surreal linden]

yea

like top half of the tofu foam

[silver pecan]

No no Ik

[surreal linden]

for wooting

[silver pecan]

Lemme send a pic

It’s a bit crooked but I fixed it dw about that

[surreal linden]

is that the top half of the wooting?

[silver pecan]

Should the foam be pushed to the top or bottom

[surreal linden]

that seems like the bottom

[silver pecan]

Yeah

No the wooting foam is on top of the redux foam

[surreal linden]

cause its not suppose to be that big

[surreal linden]

yea you know how theres a another piece?

for wooting

its a lot smaller

[silver pecan]

Yeah the top half

Threw that shit away Ngl

Because no one uses it

[surreal linden]

oh bruh

your suppose to use that

[silver pecan]

Really why?

[surreal linden]

with the tofu

[surreal linden]

cause otherwise theres too much foam

and it might overheat

and it doesnt go down properly either

[silver pecan]

Nah u don’t get it, it’s impossible to use the other half

Ur supposed to peel it off and just use the bottom half

The bigger one

For the redux case

Ur case is different than mine I believe

[surreal linden]

i also have tofu 60 redux

white version

[silver pecan]

WTT

Every video I see, ppl use the other half

The one I have in there

They don’t use both foams, they just use the original foam from wooting but peel off the top, then ditch the top

[surreal linden]

o

i see

the videos i saw said use the top

and combine with the tofu foam

and people here said that too

but ig its preference

[silver pecan]

It’s like impossible

It doesn’t work

[surreal linden]

yea i dont think you can use 2 layers of that

so just use the wooting one for now

[silver pecan]

U sure it’s better than the redux

I’m gonna test it out rq

[surreal linden]

like tofu + wooting foam?

[silver pecan]

No just tofu

[surreal linden]

nah tofu foam by itself isnt as good

[silver pecan]

U see the pic I sent

Is it even possible

To screw that in

[surreal linden]

yea its not possible

its too thick

you can only do it with the top half of the foam from wooting

not the bottom

i tried it before too

[silver pecan]

Damn so I messed up bad?

[surreal linden]

i mean its all preference tbh

[silver pecan]

I swear everyone just uses the original foam

[surreal linden]

i keep all my stuff

[surreal linden]

yea ig its preference

#1173784544529363034 message

also this is what the polyfill one sounds like if you want to know

[silver pecan]

Sounds insane

[devout torrent]

I have some MLV on teh way

should be here like tuesday

gonna give that a shot

[zinc slate]

burger mount or o ring in the stock wooting case?

[devout torrent]

Burger

Not sure if you can oring mount in stock case

[fluid ravine]

yes you can

first/second person that did it :)

[pallid echo]

is it fair to say the steel plate that comes with the wooting 60he is comparable to an aluminum plate?

or are they different in sound profile

[fluid ravine]

they're pretty close

in term of frequency and other nerdy shit

steel plate produce a higher frequency sound or whatever

or the highest

then i think its brass

then alu

pc is lowest
POM is second to lowest

[pallid echo]

okay bc i might just use that to save money on buying another plate lol

thank u

[fluid ravine]

no problem

[devout torrent]

Worth doing? Ima try it until my alumaze gets here

[fluid ravine]

personal and some few others experiences

yes!
its really worth doing

some change back due to some other circumstances like having ceramic keycaps

but other than that
in general use its worth it

[devout torrent]

Cool I’m gonna give it a shot

[fluid ravine]

alrighty

[devout torrent]

Ceramic seems good for thock

I might try those too eventually

[fluid ravine]

they are

but im not taking a chance on getting them
cus of my broke ah

[onyx pier]

why did they take out the o ring after changing to cerakeys

it affects?

[fluid ravine]

oring?

[onyx pier]

wait what did they change

[fluid ravine]

oh no

thats not what i meant

a user had a preference of having burger mount with their cera keys

rather than gummy oring

[onyx pier]

oh

[fluid ravine]

its all personal preference

theres nothing wrong with it

[onyx pier]

maybe too bouncy

[fluid ravine]

no

friction mount doesnt allow bounce

it just evens out the sound profile throughout the board

[onyx pier]

will try it out once my raptors come in

[fluid ravine]

The only way to achieve that bounce is like dremeling holes into your pcb for the oring to sit on the case post

[onyx pier]

currently using cerakeys aswell

[onyx pier]

damn

[fluid ravine]

or you can take advantage of the foam (like polyfill) to make the board bounce
like my sound test vids for example

like in order to do this^ is to have the foam sittig or filled above the standoffs and posts
which allows the pcb to sit on the foam and everytime you type or press down on the board it should give a little bounce

instead of the pcb sitting on either the post or standoffs

[quiet bay]

Peep the spacebar

[onyx pier]

ahh i get it now thanks

[fluid ravine]

the tick on that spacebar is crazy

it wildin

[quiet bay]

Shh Im too lazy to do holee mod

[fluid ravine]

lemme do them

sends over switch

[quiet bay]

Im testing with kilmat xd

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[quiet bay]

Deep clickz r what im going for

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

[silver pecan]

do you guys lube the top housing on the switch?

also, when lubing the spring, do u lube both ends? and if u only lube one end, is that the end that makes contact with the bottom housing

[harsh dove]

With Ultraforest Fjell

Wooden keycaps

[onyx pier]

You can bag lube all your springs together

[silver pecan]

i dont have oil

[onyx pier]

There is a video from wooting they show you how to lube the switches

Lube the bottom and top of the spring will do

[silver pecan]

okay thanks

[onyx pier]

Dont have to lube the whole thing

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=2tEqTHI6KMtwFvmh

[untold wigeon]

Quick question, what lubing do the raptor 60he by geon require?

I was thinking bottom housing, stem, and spring

[onyx pier]

I think just the same as the wooting one

[torn iris]

perfect if u want a smooth feel

[static root]

@fluid ravine I want to buy a detachable cable for my wooting, would you recommend to buy a third party or buy one from the wooting website?

[silver pecan]

is the brass weight bar for the redux case worth it?
i alr bought the case without it, just wanna know if it actually makes a big difference

[bronze grove]

Do you like the looks of the cables we make?
Do you want to use Tachyon mode and maximum LED brightness together?

If yes to either (or both), then you should probably consider our cable.

[static root]

What does the cable have to do something with Tachyon mode?

[bronze grove]

Not all third party cables can carry a stable voltage required for Tachyon mode with a high LED brightness enabled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE

[static root]

I mean I don't care less for maximize brightness more like aesthatic wear

I just like the looks on detachable cable

[bronze grove]

Then you have your answer I suppose.

[static root]

Well I want like a black and red one

that's why

[bronze grove]

Then you... still have your answer 😄

[static root]

but you guys only sell black ones

I don't think I can make it w red

[bronze grove]

Yes - That's the point. We don't offer what you want. So you'll have to look elsewhere.

[static root]

oo..

[wraith notch]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/usb-cable/products/aviation-plug-custom-mechanical-keyboard-usb-c-cable?variant=41493003665547

KBDfans has a nice burgundy one

[austere creek]

a nice what

also lemo style connectors arent known for aviation usage lol

[lost skiff]

Are there people with iso fr custom keyboard here ?

I’m planning to go back to azerty with the 60he module but I can’t find good looking keycaps even in gb (and French gmk set are extremely rare)

[unkempt crystal]

wtf

how is this possible

[loud zephyr]

pretty basic but might look even better paired with WoB Essentials

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-blanc-sur-noir

or admit that you really want beige because it reminds you of your uncle, who wears the same pants everyday

https://21kb.com/products/21kb-keycap-set-customizer

[lost skiff]

I didn’t know about this one! Thank you 👍

[hexed niche]

Hey. I ordered the module, does it come with a case foam?

[bronze grove]

No. Why would it? It doesn't come with a case.

Your case comes with case foam if anything.

[hexed niche]

idk🤷‍♂️ thats why i am asking

That means that i will have to use the foam that comes with the tofu redux?

[bronze grove]

Yes.

[sweet forum]

on the website it says "EPDM foam for aluminium cases" included. isn't that a case foam?

[sweet forum]

i mean beneath that is a comparison between the module and the prebuild, there the foam is listed

[bronze grove]

99% sure that's a typing mistake.

[sweet forum]

ok 😄

[bronze grove]

This doesn't mention the silicone. Pretty sure someone made a mistake at some point, and no one noticed when we lived the site.

[sweet forum]

i guess i'll wait to see xD

[onyx pier]

will wooting sell the foam that comes with the 60 he in the future?

[bronze grove]

Which foam? And for what purpose?

[onyx pier]

the epdm foam

[bronze grove]

The foam that your case comes with would be a better fit.

[onyx pier]

but wooting foam sound better tho

i am using the wooting foam on the tofu redux

it sounds better than the redux roam

Was planning to use the new module on the redux with the wooting foam

And my old module on my spare psd 60 case but i dont got no foam for it

[glacial wind]

I’m sure you can find the same foam type online

Just need to know exactly the type of foam wooting uses and you can buy the same foam from a keyboard shop

[devout torrent]

well after lubing + switch tape mod + burger + pc plate sounds pretty good

but might sell it this week to a friend and order module

not sure if I wanna re-mod tho

[zinc slate]

what o rings did you use?

like the cheap ones people put onto keycaps?

for the burger mount ofc

[devout torrent]

I ordered 50A silicone orings

5mm OD, 1mm ID, 2mm Width

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MNJX3ZB/?th=1

1mmx5mmx2mm here

these are the thickest ones that seem to fit well with the wooting

50A durometer is pretty soft too

[zinc slate]

appreciate it, just what i was looking for!

[devout torrent]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NHYRAY/

I got these screws, to

too

theyre a bit longer

will need it for the buger mount

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5V2KBP

idk if anything 4 deg exists

[onyx pier]

redux is 7

[devout torrent]

freebird 60 is 5 degrees

[zinc slate]

These second screws are for what part of the keeb?

[devout torrent]

You dont need both

the second screws is what I used to replace wooting screws

since you need slightly longer screws to burger mount properly

[zinc slate]

The first ones work as well?

[devout torrent]

I think so but not 100%

baka is 6.5 degrees

[zinc slate]

they are the same size so probably

[devout torrent]

yeah I think either is good

I got both but ended up using 2nd

GH60 alu case might be pretty flat

[zinc slate]

how come?

[devout torrent]

posieidon 60 I think is just under 5 deg

yeah those are pretty flat

and cheap on ali exp

but idk what the angle is

hard ot find info

[zinc slate]

5 I think

[devout torrent]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832664482405.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

[zinc slate]

with the feet ofc

[devout torrent]

how about this?

[zinc slate]

Its 6 degrees actually

with feet

[devout torrent]

yeah I think he can use without feet

for it to be pretty flat

[zinc slate]

I actually really enjoy the stock case for gaming

low front rise and angle

no wrist wrest needed

[devout torrent]

yeah agreed the stock case is really nice

[zinc slate]

The plastic is really nice quality

like very very nice

yeah

Cases come apart with just a few screws

Its easier to swap cases than assemble an Ikea bookshelf

What's the consensus on filming lekkers?

[pale aspen]

better buy Raptor HE

optional swap to Wooting stem

[mighty drift]

I currently own the tofu60 redux, and I'm considering getting the Wooting 60HE module. Does it support Akko CS Jelly Purple Switches?

[obsidian dagger]

that is not a hall effect switch

so no

[zinc slate]

better tollerances?

if so why would you swap to the wooting stem

[polar girder]

Raptors coming Thursday

🥰

[zinc slate]

shipping is $25?!?!?!?

[polar girder]

lol yah

Ofc

[zinc slate]

hell nah

I will wait until we see som emore HE switches

certainly wont be long

[polar girder]

Gaterons double rail when?

Can’t wait to try that stem in a Raptor lol

[agile grove]

they're coming to Divinikey sometime soon

[zinc slate]

silent tho :((

Divinikey shipping Is only $6 for me

[glacial wind]

Because the housing itself is tighter

And it seems the wooting stem is a tad tighter as well so when you combine the two the switch becomes really tight

[devout torrent]

did they confirm this somewhere?

hype if so

[glacial wind]

Divinikey themselves confirmed they ordered it

[devout torrent]

yes less wobble!

[devout torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKa1hIXnQQ

check this vid out

[agile grove]

damn I knew the raptor + lekker stem sounded better than stock lekkers but I didnt know it sounded THAT much better

[devout torrent]

yeah less rattle makes for much better sound

though tape modding the switches that @fluid ravine showed sounds the best imo since the raptors are a little more clacky/higher pitched

but its all preference

and that mod is so tedious lol took me like 4-5 hours

[agile grove]

and thats exactly why I wont be doing that lmao

[devout torrent]

yeah that's fair lol

and I need to relube a couple

but will be doing that next weekend most likely

[agile grove]

tbh I've heard the stock lekkers sound really good for a gaming board compared to other off the shelf boards, but I can understand that modding and newer switches almost always sound closer to custom

[devout torrent]

idk the lekkers sound pretty bad imo

but other gaming boards being worse wouldnt surprise me

but compared to my customs the wooting was ass before mods

now its amazing

haha he ended up using it as b-roll for the commentary

[agile grove]

yeah thats exactly what I mean, the board sounds good compared to other gaming boards but awful to people coming from custom boards,

[devout torrent]

but yeah its pretty funny

yeah

if anything I would lube switches

takes some time

but so worth

[devout torrent]

I am hype

[shrewd hatch]

Might be in the minority but I like the louder popping sounds

[devout torrent]

it's all personal preference, nothing wrong with that

[shrewd hatch]

bought some lube, foam and switch pads but prob wont even use them

might just burger mount

[agile grove]

yeah im gonna do that eventually with a buddy (just for a little context I got the module so I dont have board yet) when them come down to my state to visit family that im also friends with. he has all the stuff too and has done it on 2 boards already.

[devout torrent]

I also hear the new batches of switches are better

and some dont feel the need to lube them

so may not even have to

I am planning to sell my wooting this week

and getting the module

but will suck to not have it while I wait for new one lol

[agile grove]

why?

oh screw in stabs?

[devout torrent]

Kind of a win win

friend wants one for a christmas gift for his newphew

so I can sell him it so he has it in time for christmas

and newphew will get a new pre-modded wooting

[agile grove]

oh sweet

[devout torrent]

and I get an excuse to upgrade

since I do want the pcb stabs

but had no reason to have 2 wootings

[agile grove]

1 for each hand

[devout torrent]

split ergo wooting

[lilac grove]

alrdy watched it the mixed one are so good

some more info

[devout torrent]

aw yeah

def looking forward to this

this one and the dual rail ks-20s will be very interetsing

[lilac grove]

is there alrdy some test or something out? only see people speak about it

[glacial wind]

Clack is popular still

Thock is popular for most people at first since it’s the easiest to create with foam and deep switches

Then when they start experimenting more you get more people trying clackier stuff

[lilac grove]

i think the reason is the most people just like the deep sounds more but if you alrdy have 1 deep why need a sec one so you try someting else after your first deep one bc would be lame to have all sounding the same

i dont think its bc its ez

[glacial wind]

well to get good clack it's kind of rarer in a keyboard is the thing

whereas you can turn almost anything thocky by shoving foam into it, which was popularized by the first jelly

doing the reverse won't necessarily give you a good clack though

[lilac grove]

y i also think so but i dont think thats the reason why people go for thock first most of the time

[glacial wind]

well yeah i think thock sounds nice too, it's the first 'custom keyboard' sound people get exposed to

then eventually a lot of people get a bit bored of it because it becomes common among the customs

[lilac grove]

y true

[harsh dove]

Welp my keeb stuff didn’t make it here Saturday, but it should be here today

🤞

[late oracle]

got my o ring mount and my bow nicepbt set from cannonkeys. went ahead and tapemodded it too. not sure how i feel about the tape mod

i really need to clean my wrist rest lol

[cinder merlin]

ah that's me. No it's not the flex, i just liked the sound on the burger mount since it was a bit more muted/lower pitch. When I went gummy, it was a bit hard for me to take out (alumaze case) and the sound was a bit louder than I liked.

So yea, it's all personal preference

The sound is more consistent on the gummy oring tho, burger you get some parts where' it's higher and some parts where it's lower.

Also, I don't really feel the flex when I use both mounts probably because the oring is too tight on mine, and I don't press really hard to feel the flex either

I would suggest you try both and see what u like 🙂

[proven tendon]

does anyone have a full sound test of raptors with lekker stems

[cinder merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKa1hIXnQQ

3:13

[proven tendon]

yeah i saw that

i meant more like a typing test with all the switches swapped

its kinda hard to tell what it would sound like from just a couple switches

[cinder merlin]

ah

[quiet bay]

Veho is a joke....

[cobalt flame]

hi guys does cherry style keycaps fit well with wooting 60 he?

or you have to use OEM

[quiet bay]

yes

any keycaps that have mx stems work

[cobalt flame]

thats nice!

do you know any europe based vendors

i dont want to pay 40+ dollar shipping and taxes

[quiet bay]

sorry idk I live in the us

[frank lark]

hah... my order for the red ones just shipped too.

[stable kindle]

how much is the shipping for the raptors?

[cinder merlin]

24 bucks ish to east coast i think

I've heard someone said theirs was 50 bucks

61 switches would cost about 24 as well

[stable kindle]

jesus, thanks for the info

[cinder merlin]

so ur basically paying the same price for shipping and the switches

maybe even more for shipping

[stable kindle]

gotcha, so its like $10 more than the lekkers

[cinder merlin]

It's like 0.48 a switch

just shipping is mega expensive

[lilac grove]

i wait for the clear ones but i feel a little bit bad inside

[cinder merlin]

Lekker's are 0.57 a switch, but no shipping

[stable kindle]

yeah i had that question, wouldnt the red mess with the rgb?

[cinder merlin]

yes

the rgb is significantly less bright i believe

[lilac grove]

rly would like to try the stem switching and when the lekker springs come out even with other springs will be so fun

[cinder merlin]

Nix posted this, so you might be able to find the videos he posted here

[stable kindle]

i dont understand, why not just make it clear

[lilac grove]

white is more like pink than

[cinder merlin]

probably aesthetics, and didn't think it through

[cinder merlin]

and yes this will be done too

[quiet bay]

now ks20 gateron switches are a waste of money!

[cinder merlin]

tru

[stable kindle]

i understand if the color was from the materials needed for the acoustics, but if not for that all switches should be just clear

[stable kindle]

why

[cinder merlin]

I don't think it's acoustics

[glacial wind]

Rgb isn’t as popular with enthusiast boards and the raptor were originally made for geons upcoming he board

[cinder merlin]

probably just thought a red black switch looked cool

and rgb isnt as widely used

Yea, some ppl want red builds

[quiet bay]

Barely makes a difference in sound while raptor he is a huge difference

[lilac grove]

raptor he is the big deal alrdy gave up that some good he switches come out

[stable kindle]

i guess ill try out the clear ones when they come out with them, $20 for the lekkers are good enough for me over the $55 raptors

[glacial wind]

If you want cheaper shipping just wait for local vendors

[cinder merlin]

Divinikey is getting them

but they have no specific date

[cobalt flame]

Guys any1 knew any good europe based keycap vendors?

[devout torrent]

there's also clear ones coming in march seems like

[bronze grove]

mykeyboard?
(Make sure you filter "in stock" at the bottom)

[devout torrent]

so might be worth waiting for those for rgb enjoyers

since current raptors kinda kill rgb

[cinder merlin]

yes

[glacial wind]

Eloquent keys for eu and divinikey for us I think are the 2 confirmed vendors that will get them

[cinder merlin]

but will probably go thru the same process. Release, wait for some US vendor or else shipping is mega expensive.

[glacial wind]

It honestly shouldn’t be long since they already got the raptor mx switches pretty quickly after they were released in kr

[cinder merlin]

shipping isn't unaffordable but it's not really worth when they are the same price as the switches xD

[glacial wind]

Yeah it’s always like that for a lot of the Asia vendors that only ship via dhl/ups

They just have a set minimum ship cost and even small light items cost a boatload. Like if you order the nice kaban keyboard case from monokei the shipping cost more than the case as well lol

[cinder merlin]

I wonder if divinikeys will sell it a bit more expensive to cover the cost then

Although bulk shipping will lower their average cost

[glacial wind]

Nah they don’t pay the same cost as public

[cinder merlin]

Ic

[glacial wind]

Prices should be compatible to their mx on sale now

[cinder merlin]

Wasn’t sure if that was a think they did

Kk

[drifting silo]

finally finished, and lubed 👍

[tawny delta]

Hi, does cherry profile or oem fit on the 60he?

[bronze grove]

We sell and use both. Yes.

[devout torrent]

got my MLV foam aw yeah

[foggy glen]

quick question, will GMK keycaps work the 45L switches?

[stray tiger]

yes

[foggy glen]

i guess this answers my question thanks

[foggy glen]

yea thanks, just didn't read above lol xdd

[harsh dove]

Anyone ever tried wooden keycaps?

https://kprepublic.com/products/kprepublic-loop-104-wooden-keycaps-wood-oem-profile-walnut-rosewood-beech-for-gh60-poker-60-87-tkl-104-ansi-108-xd87-bm80

[spice herald]

those are probably thocky as hell

[harsh dove]

I’m curious tbh

Feel like they’d look nice with a leather keyboard mat and the Ultraforest Fjell

[polar girder]

Yeah I’ll be kind of bummed if the raptors make the light more dim

Already tough to see my side prints

[bronze grove]

I'd expect them to given the housing colour.

[harsh dove]

They 100% will

[polar girder]

Riiiight

[fluid ravine]

i got pinged

who pinged me

[polar girder]

Not it

[polar girder]

Could be ok. Or could be massively detrimental

[fluid ravine]

anyways im home

what we talking abt

[fluid ravine]

hi pops

[stray tiger]

You better be studying for that drivers test!

[fluid ravine]

SIR YES SIR

who am i driving

whos the target boss

[harsh dove]

I’d say it will be okay but definitely noticeable

Pretty sure there’s a video somewhere that shows it

[fluid ravine]

mother FU-

[stray otter]

Fudger?

[fluid ravine]

every word that starts with fu

aint no way my bro hasnt got his UWU yet

[tulip pumice]

This is the closest I can find to a color scheme I want (gengar colors) that are DSA. Kind of new to all of this. Would these fit a wooting?

https://kprepublic.com/products/dsa-dolch-colorway-dsa-profile-dye-sub-keycap-set-pbt-plastic-for-keyboard-gh60-xd60-xd84-cospad-tada68-rs96-zz96-87-104-660?variant=9697265156140

[scarlet rock]

Has anyone gotten the o ring mount to work with the pc plate in the redux?

The new pc plate has extra plastic on the standoffs near the tab and backspace so the o ring sticks out

[fluid ravine]

it should fit in any case compatible

[fluid ravine]

just squish it in

push it in

[scarlet rock]

It won't go in