🔧│keyboard_modding

[ionic ingot]

Can anyone please give me a list of switches people have tested with the Wooting?

[pale aspen]

Raptor HE is the best

All you need is

• Tofu Redux with brass weight
• KBDfans Carbon Fibre plate
• Oring 50A
• Geon Raptor HE switches (stock)
  Thocky
• Wooting PC plate
• Oring 50A
• Tape mod
• plate foam + case foam

[wanton elbow]

do you guys know what type of profiles are compatible with the wooting i am aware that oem and cherry are but i use iso nordic so if possible i'd like to know more oiptions so i have a bit more to pick from

[cyan adder]

mods :
Tofu Redux Gray + Brass Weight
PBT Keycaps Dyesub Japanese Gray Ceyment by Kbdfans
Lubbed switches with 205G0 (stem, bottom housing, springs bag lubbed with 105g0 oil)
Lubbed stabs hiusing with 205G0
Polycarbonate plate + stock plate foam
Polyfill case dampening
1mm poron sticker foam on all case standoffs
Spacebar Foam poron 1mm
Gummy O ring Mounted, Graveshift 35A
Keebtape sandwiched between 2 layers of Blue Masking Tape (1 layer masking tape - keebtape - 1 layer masking tape)
Poron switch pads
XHT BDZ on stabs wire + bandaid mods + stabs wire foam on spacebar wire
Switches tape mod 3 layers of medical tape

[grave sable]

Just wondering if anyone has found any heavier springs for the lekker switches

[obsidian dagger]

anything that isn't super flat should work

and super flat would just create mushrooms/typewriter look if youre into that

[wanton elbow]

i not sure what that means sorry i am still sort of new to keyboards

[obsidian dagger]

the bottom ones

but everything else? should be fine

[wanton elbow]

ohhh so more or less anything works

[obsidian dagger]

should, yeah. can also always search here if someone has tried it

but most are cherry anyway

some oem/sa and maybe an oddball

[pallid echo]

should i notice a huge difference when lubing my switches? new to all this and don’t see a major difference, maybe i did it wrong or didn’t put enough?

[rare perch]

Whats a good budget white metal case? the tofu seems to be out of stock unless anyone can find out.

[stable kindle]

@rare perch shows in stock for me

[sand oasis]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case

Most colours should be in stock

[sand oasis]

You will defo notice a difference

Direct correlation to how much lubing you do

[marsh saffron]

Budget

[sand oasis]

You just said it’s out of stock and I was just showing you that some Colours if not are still in stock

There is a pppular budget one from Ali express but the name doesn’t come to mind rn

[deft wing]

thocky sound from this mods?

Which plate is better for a thocky sound? FR4 or CF? I'm ordering it from KBDFans because I wanna order it together with the tofu60 redux case

[harsh dove]

Yes they’re compatible, and yeah I actually want to try a CF plate myself but they are stiffer than something like Polycarbonate. But gives a more muted or thoccy sound compared to something like an Alu plate or steel plate.

[stable kindle]

would you say that its less thoccy than the PC plate? my og order from kbdfans looked like it messed up so i went ahead and reordered the same thing but also with the CF plate. I remembered you said it was stiffer so i thought it would be more similar to the typing feel of the corsair i have now

[harsh dove]

Definitely less thoccy than PC, PC is about as thoccy as you can get in terms of materials

And yeah I think you’ll like the CF plate

Definitely let me know once you get it

[stable kindle]

will do !

[fluid ravine]

I'm home from hell!!!!!

yayyy

Imo POM would be best sounding
I feel like PC plate is more of a typing feel plate
like pc plate is still really good not saying anything bad about it but just my opinion or what i think

Bakeneko 60 30A

Thats really deep

and muted
its good!

[stable kindle]

Is there a pom plate?

[untold wigeon]

sm keyboards

[marble shuttle]

did you buy with standoffs aswell ?

iam wondering with geon switches holding myself not buying it

[fluid ravine]

oh i didnt get it

[knotty breach]

hey

[fluid ravine]

lol

[knotty breach]

u guys recomended buy cerakey?

ceramic keycaps xd

[marble shuttle]

you know in smkeyboards they said buy standoffs screws with if you buy plate my bad i forgot type screws

[fluid ravine]

the ones from kbdfans

the standoff kits

[marble shuttle]

yeah exactly i was trying to say that

what do you feel with that plate

[fluid ravine]

its like PC plate
less flexy
a little bit denser im sure

[knotty breach]

@harsh dove hey what swich u have l45 or l60

[marble shuttle]

did you see the geon hall effect switches really good if they were shipping the turkey and dont use payment paypal i was going to get it

[sage flicker]

wait a minute. Do they sell very low gram springs for HE keyboards like Lekker? I know Lekker uses a different spring.

my new KB with kailh chocs are going to have low cN springs, but wondering if I can just swap out these Lekker springs too.

[noble vine]

can i do both burger mount and tape mod ?

to my 60he?

[sage flicker]

cheeseburger or?

[marble shuttle]

i tried 3 layers and burgermount and the screws didnt reach but 2 layers worked

[fluid ravine]

use different screws

[noble vine]

did it interfere with the 0.1 accusation?

accuation**

[sage flicker]

ACCUSATION

!

[noble vine]

LMAOO

[marble shuttle]

no it didnt

[fluid ravine]

ya

sounds better

[harsh dove]

L60 but I have L45s and Raptor HEs on the way for the new board

[harsh dove]

It wouldn’t interfere, the actuation point has to do with the distance between the switches/plate and the PCB

[noble vine]

okk thank you

[noble vine]

so 2 layers max?

how thick was your tape?

[knotty breach]

what is the diff from raptor?

[marble shuttle]

I used blue painters tape @noble vine

Little bit thin an if you use same 2 is enougj

[harsh dove]

Not entirely sure really as I haven’t had them yet but as far as I’ve heard they sound a bit better and have less housing/stem wobble

I mainly just wanna experiment and try em out

I’m happy with my L60s

[thick palm]

I've been out of the loop for a while, playing games on my wooting but it's physically killing me. Does anyone know of a way to get lekker switches on an ergodox layout?

[weak inlet]

is the brass weight a good purchase for tofu60 redux in terms of sound or not?

[quiet bay]

hmmm too muted to my liking

[fallow belfry]

Guys is l45 faster then l60

[fluid ravine]

wdym by faster

[fallow belfry]

Like the apex pro

2023

[fluid ravine]

the force to press down the switch is less

45 grams

l60s are 60 graams

[fallow belfry]

But is the l45 apex 2023 swithes

Peaple compare that

@fluid ravine

[terse temple]

Do the 45 lekkers and 60 lekkers have any sound difference (unlubed)

[quiet bay]

no they're the same thing just different force to press down

[terse temple]

Do a lot of people find the 60’s heavy 🤔

[fluid ravine]

preference

i prefer heavier

[fluid ravine]

?

[quiet bay]

why are you comparing lekker switches to switches specifically for a whole other keyboard

plus it's the pcb that matters most

[fluid ravine]

and software

[fallow belfry]

But that is dumb from me i can only buy a New feather 45 gram

[fluid ravine]

?

you lost me

you buying the module?

[quiet bay]

what???..

[fluid ravine]

just wondering what switches to buy

?

[knotty breach]

oo ok

[fallow belfry]

No i already have the wooting 60he

But i buy the l45 and pc plate and concrete grey

But i dont have switch puller

Lol

[knotty breach]

LMAO

[fallow belfry]

Hahaha

[loud zephyr]

use you teeth, that's what I do

[fallow belfry]

Yeah

I can use my teeth

I do it

[marble shuttle]

Dont worth it

[loud zephyr]

excellent

[harsh dove]

For sound, no not really. For weight, yes.

[cinder merlin]

yes, they are pretty good just pricy

[coarse oriole]

Yo this is prob troll asf, but would Ceramic keycaps be any good on the wooting? Or just in gaming in general. I've been looking into keycap sets and ceramic looks interesting. I've seen some cons saying that it weighs 4x more than traditional plastic keycaps and have also heard that overtime with use they can be quite slippery. I feel like the weight of the keycap would be counterintuitive with the wooting/gaming in general but wanted to get thoughts maybe?

[cinder merlin]

yes I use them

Idk about FPS, but feels fine for every other game and casual gaming

[cinder merlin]

They don't really affect the keys other than the spacebar

[coarse oriole]

Ah so you personally haven't felt a difference in weight when pressing the keys down, like it doesn't affect at all for you?

[cinder merlin]

i mean the switches are so fast so no

plus i mainly play league

it's fine

it's always gna be a personal preference thing

i like the keys alot, feels premium, types well, has a good sound

[coarse oriole]

Nice, any problems with slipperiness?

Like if your hands sweat

[cinder merlin]

i mean they are slippry to some extent but not something that really affects my play

i dont sweat alot

so

[coarse oriole]

gotcha

[quiet bay]

Atleast u can easily wipe them iff

[cinder merlin]

yea

I don't really think it affects gameplay unless ur like the top 0.01% of gamers who really feel it but I could be wrong

When i turn actuation point to the mimimum, it's too fast even with heavy keys

makes no difference once u get used to them

bounce back fine, feel fine is my take

[coarse oriole]

ah bet

yea ty for response definitely helps in determining what set im wantin to buy

i have gmk red samurai keycaps rn but ive had them for a little over 2 years and wanted to try something new

[cinder merlin]

i think its worth it even though it's expensive. but could be bias. I just think they are very premium and feel great

[quiet bay]

I would like to try cerakeys

[cinder merlin]

@coarse oriole if u want, I can always dm u videos or images if u want to hear them etc

[quiet bay]

if blanks were in stock 😩

[cinder merlin]

think they will restock in a month

what color? black?

[quiet bay]

white

[cinder merlin]

didnt they just restock

[coarse oriole]

Yea honestly I think my only concern would be slipperiness. My hands sweat naturally more than they should, like i'd be chillin at my computer doing nothing and my hands will sweat. So I feel like they may be way too slippery with that combination

[cinder merlin]

nvm its white + black legends

[coarse oriole]

but i was thinking about getting the black keycaps + legends cuz they look sick

[cinder merlin]

sounds like a plan

lol i dipped finger in water to try slipperiness, yea they are. But that's kinda extreme lmao

[harsh dove]

"Goes to press D"
Ends up with:
"DFGHJKLL;'"

[cinder merlin]

lmao

tru slide

[coarse oriole]

me fr

If not ceramic keycaps, does anyone have any other keycap suggestions? Mainly would jsut be looking for plastic keycaps

[cinder merlin]

gmk? normal pbt etc

i mean clones are pretty cheap, and u already have gmk

it's either metal or cera for unique ones lol

[glacial wind]

Yep with wooting. I think only switches people have used with wooting besides lekkers is the raptor he and the gateron ks20 because those 2 use the same gateron build dimensions etc as the lekkers

[harsh dove]

How have you been liking your Raptors ?

[glacial wind]

Great. They pretty much fixed my biggest issue with lekker switches in that they don’t have the crazy amount of stem wobble

The nicer sound profile is a bonus

[harsh dove]

Awesome! Love to hear it

[west vector]

What recommendations do you guys have for lowering the noise level of the stock board? Switching out the keys, the switch, and the case?

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[fluid ravine]

I think you should get it instead of the l45s

lel

[harsh dove]

Too late

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[fluid ravine]

yeap

both indeed

[polar girder]

Time to buy raptors?

[fluid ravine]

[quiet bay]

Kilmat

and moleskin tape

[fluid ravine]

def kilmat

[harsh dove]

yeah kilmat and moleskin are best at muting noise

well not best maybe but pretty good

[devout torrent]

https://fxtwitter.com/WootingKB/status/1730044271078818087

omg

[stray tiger]

Had he just came and visited this channel earlier he would have known he could do that before he made the review video 🙂

[harsh dove]

I had a feeling... good thing I bought extra O Rings lol

[quiet bay]

wowie Wooting is really expanding into the mods now

Watch my Wootin UwU get misdelivered again 🤣

[fluid ravine]

:(

[daring umbra]

when you say factory lube switches do actual people do it or a machine does it?

[fluid ravine]

Small wooting case foam +polyfill

[fluid ravine]

factory machine

i dont think anybody would want to lube like 36743128436728194 switches

[daring umbra]

slavery 😅

[fluid ravine]

lol

i think i will be one of those slaves for some reason

[daring umbra]

I think I should just re-lube my switches when they arrive

[fluid ravine]

when what arrives

[daring umbra]

lekker60 with module

[fluid ravine]

you gonna sell your 60he?

or smth

[daring umbra]

I already bought keycaps which is KDS Solarized Dark-colorized and deep sea predator- hiragana alpha kit

[daring umbra]

I don't have one yet about to order in a bit

[fluid ravine]

oh

you're building one

aight

aight

[daring umbra]

yuss

since it's payday I'll be broke tomorrow

but that's fine. wooting can have my moolah

[fluid ravine]

lmao i wish

[daring umbra]

also looking forward for that spring pack 👀

[fluid ravine]

lol

50s?

[daring umbra]

yeah because been using gat yellows 50g

i think the L45s are too light and I might accidentally trigger keys

that's why I'm going for L60 but gaming is life I might have finger fatigue more often. maybe idk

so maybe an in-between spring is gucci

[fluid ravine]

@stray tiger

You think this is ok?
The pcb can breathe fine right?

Small wooting foam and polyfill

[daring umbra]

now put a pillow case and sleep on it

[fluid ravine]

Thin amount

[stray tiger]

Perfectly fine

[fluid ravine]

👍

sounds deeper/lower pitched than full polyfill

niceu

[naive hill]

Anyone know if you will be able to gummy oring mount the 60he+ module?

[onyx pier]

no you will not be able to

[naive hill]

What’s stopping it from working

[onyx pier]

the stabs

[naive hill]

Alright thank you

[onyx pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvLyb2HhrU

it is shown in this video you can take a look

[naive hill]

I shouldn’t have to do anything special to do burger mount then right?

Like don’t need to order any longer screws or anything

[loud zephyr]

It'll work but with clip-in stabs, someone posted earlier Bad Seed's short video update on gummy'ing the module

[onyx pier]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VEZ7O3GX_j8?si=A2DlmUOs7YCJvi8n

[onyx pier]

you need longer screws #🪛│modding_faq all the info is here

[weak inlet]

is the brass weight a good purchase for tofu60 redux in terms of sound or not?

[marsh saffron]

probably doesnt make much difference

[harsh dove]

It really just adds to the weight, doesn't change sound much

[loud zephyr]

the brass weight is for throwing at your neighbors window, when you want to listen to their music at 2am in the morning

[harsh dove]

"2am in the morning" lol

[loud zephyr]

[weak inlet]

thx a lot guys and which switch is better sounding and performance wise better the L45 or Gateron KS-20

[loud zephyr]

probably not enough to justify one over the other, both made by Gateron. Save shipping and do Wooting

[weak inlet]

shipping is not a problem cause ill be buying tofu redux from maxgaming and on their site they hase the ks20 switches but is the l45 going to be better from rapid trigger and these features that wooting offers

[loud zephyr]

No advantage from either switch other than slight difference in spring weight

[weak inlet]

i like lighter switches so the l45 should be better for me

[loud zephyr]

👍

[weak inlet]

and should i use all the standoffs included with tofu60 redux or no?

[marble shuttle]

as usual like wooting you have to use 5 screws we dont use middle screw

[weak inlet]

so just 5 screws no standoffs

[marble shuttle]

ohh you mean standoffs sorry

you have to put one standoffs for the spacebar standoff for tofu

there are 2 golden standoffs there you have to use one is enough

[weak inlet]

so just this one?

[marble shuttle]

Yes

[weak inlet]

ok thx and do you use the tofu foam or 1layer of wooting foam?

[marble shuttle]

I use 1 layer of eooting foam

Tofu foam isnt good my opinon

[weak inlet]

ive also heard that thx for confirming that

[marble shuttle]

Np because thr tofu foam is rrally thin so it make hollowness little bit but with wooting foam the case sound really well

[weak inlet]

cause i’ll be buying the 60he module lekker 45 and tofu case so am i trying to get any information how to make it better at budget cause i dont care really that much about keyboard i just want something better then my current hyperx alloy 60

[marble shuttle]

major difference for making better is lubing others are minor

and a wooting foam

😂 you dont want to use tofu foam

[weak inlet]

So this is what i’ll have
60he module
70pack Lekker 45
Tofu60 redux
Akko keycaps (already have them)

is it okey i dont need anything insane

[marble shuttle]

maybe changing stabs to tx stabs in future

lube are prelubed but i prefer hand lubing

tape mod is really cheap classic mod

also wooting said we are going to do custom gummy o ring you can buy it

[weak inlet]

i am probably not going that deep to hand lube every switch

and what is tape mod?

and could you send me what you mean by the orings

[marble shuttle]

do you have painters tape in your house

[weak inlet]

yes

[marble shuttle]

tape mod is basiaccly putting layers on behind the pcb

which makes the reduce the hollowness

[weak inlet]

ohhhh okey cant wait to get everything from my list and home and bomb this chat for help xd

[marble shuttle]

for example like this

alright

some people suggestion medical tape i never used but this is fine too

[left kayak]

hey , think this is compatible ? https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B094QN3P91/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

[marble shuttle]

yes it is

[weak inlet]

and how to mount the switch i have cherry mx keycaps and i want rgb to be on under them

[pale aspen]

i dont recommend XDa profiel for gaming tho

flat row

[weak inlet]

i have these Akko Bronze and Black keycaps some ASA profile or how is it called but under is the cherry cross

and i’ve seen many people say that the switch can be mounted in more directions so which should i use

[austere creek]

leave it default for best rgb and only do south facing if your keycaps do end up interfering

[weak inlet]

ok thx tony

[left kayak]

ty

the wooting is already lub or no ?

[bronze grove]

The switches are lubed during manufacturing, but it is not the same as handlubing each one. Stabilizers are also lubed during assembly.

[left kayak]

oh okok I'm going to mod my first keyboard so I'm hesitant to do it myself, but if you tell me that lubricating yourself is different I might try

[craggy cipher]

Lekker Switch Stem + Raptor HE Housing
By combining these two, the rattling of the shaft has been greatly eliminated.
If you have Raptor HE, give it a try.
https://fxtwitter.com/PSOana/status/1729833258089578508

[sand oasis]

defo worth lubing yourself

its a slow process and might take a while to find out what sound you like

[crimson sky]

oh, interesting

thought of doing that myself just for the different magnet

but good to see that it also brings other improvements

[glacial wind]

that's super interesting

hrm do I want to open all my switches again though

[remote burrow]

Hello everyone. I'm thinking about putting my 60he in the Redux case but I have no experience with modding keyboards. Will I get everything I need for this operations if I purchase the Redux case from kbd?

[crimson sky]

uhhh only thing you might be missing is a screwdriver?

if you don't have one I owuld recommend you go and buy one, they are useful

[remote burrow]

was planning to use a hammer and just jam it in there but I might just go and get one

[glass sandal]

For the tape mod I see people say put 3-4 layers of tape. They then proceed to put a 3-4 strips of tape and voila the video is done.

Am I missing something

Or should they be putting 9-12 pieces of tape and theyre just cutting the video short

[upbeat minnow]

Day 10 no reply from Anders

[bronze grove]

Day 365 of Anders answering hundreds of emails a day. Hi 🙂

Could I have your order number? I'm trying to get through my personal inbox before I go on a short holiday.

[upbeat minnow]

Is didn’t order directly from wooting

Can I give you my email

[bronze grove]

You can send me a followup email reply, and I'll see it in my inbox. Probably the best approach.

[upbeat minnow]

Ok thank you. Sending now.

[cyan adder]

Its pretty much personal preference. You can start with 1 layer, then test the sounding; and try add one by one. Usually the more layers you put, the more poppy the sound will be

Tempest is good to make your keyboard a bit louder when you found it too muted

I would usually say test 1 layer, 3 layers, and 5 layers, which are the most common that people stick with

[upbeat minnow]

Have just sent, it’s from james

[glass sandal]

Thanks, i just discovered the modding faq channel; and holy crap who tf is going to do the switch mod haha

[cyan adder]

Actually alot of ppl here including me. Usually you do 1 or 2 switches for testing, then you cant retain yourself doing it on all the switches

@glass sandal here is how my sounding end ahah

but the best feedback/sound test among differents mods with switches tape mod you can probably found here is from little tenz

[glass sandal]

ngl.. I only discovered last week that people mod their keyboards

I didnt even know it was a thing

then I looked up how people lube their keyboards and how all the youtube videos made them look suicidal

So I was thinking of doing the tape mod

and then getting a little paint brush , pushing down my switch and lubing the sides (without taking apart the switch)

https://youtube.com/shorts/bJ5l2qo04h8?si=3CN6PN-yWouiRqoS

[crimson sky]

that will do barely anything

especially for a lekker switch

also he puts in like 10 times the amount you need

or want

[bronze grove]

Calder gave it the stamp of approval and showed it off on Stream.

So uhh... take that for what you will 😄

(With less lube getting all over the stem)

[polar girder]

Those new raptors HE sounding. CLEAN NGL

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/s/qIIluvRw1Q

[sand oasis]

interesting

a bit too clacky for my liking

[polar girder]

But so clean

[marble shuttle]

and it is no foam

[polar girder]

No scrapy

No springy

[sand oasis]

ahh didnt read the description yet

maybe time to invest

[polar girder]

I did not buy yet

But I’m close lol

[glass sandal]

wheres the recording!

[marble shuttle]

they have only paypal 😐

[polar girder]

PayPal the best lol

[sand oasis]

its not bad like 45 quid

might have to risk it for a biscuit

[marble shuttle]

we dont have a paypal 💀

deadass

[sand oasis]

yeh its not every country unfortantely

[polar girder]

Is that closer to 45 or l60?

[sand oasis]

i assume 45

i dont think they would label 60 as the bottom out force

[bronze grove]

Does it matter? Same procedure.

[glass sandal]

everyone say the vid i posted was too much lube haha

[pale aspen]

because of the plate mostly

[spice herald]

Definitely going to have to hand lube these in order to make them sound a bit more muted… Currently thinking about picking 65 of them up but that $25 shipping is rough

Wish I knew but most likely the copper since that’s really the only difference material wise - going from different plastics shouldn’t add that much of a difference to each switch I wouldn’t think… Some switch makers just do supply and demand pricing and that’s when you get them costing more

[obsidian dagger]

even that should cost nothing

tbh the injection molds are the only pricy thing

i assume fantasy price

[glacial wind]

it's in the middle of the 2. Bottom out of raptor is 52 and L45/L60 is bottom out force

[glacial wind]

if you scroll up a bit to yesterday I posted a sound test for them in a more foamy configuration

[polar girder]

Hype

[harsh dove]

My shipping is twice yours lol

[normal shoal]

Damn

[harsh dove]

Technically more than twice his shipping lol

[low furnace]

When the shipping is more than the item

[polar girder]

☠️

[normal shoal]

patience level > 9000

[elder dune]

how is the shipping that much for some switches?

you live rural/middle of nowhere in a country with 1000% tax?

[austere creek]

oh that shipping is without taxes

i wouldnt count on it being ddp

[harsh dove]

Lmao I live in Colorado

[harsh dove]

They tryna scam me

[agile grove]

jeez thats tough

[crisp jasper]

Is burger mounting the wooting into something like the fjell in anyway like a gummy oring mount

[agile grove]

tax is 25 for me, which still isnt worth it since I alr got the module with the L60s

its like 40 dabloons more to get the raptors

[spice harbor]

im looking at the tofu 60 redux for the wooting 60HE, does the FR4 ANSI plate sound similar to the wooting PC plate ? I know carbon fiber defs sounds different

[harsh dove]

Yeah kinda surprised tbh

I’ve had stuff shipped from other countries and it never cost that much

[agile grove]

not really

[light lynx]

you could do both

the 60he allows oring but the 60he+ doesnt allow o rings to sit flash due to diff stabs

[crisp jasper]

I'm getting the module so I don't think oring works without cutting some notches into the pcb so the oring can avoid the stabs

Ye ye

If burger mount is close enough feeling in terms of the softer typing experience on bottom out I'll just go with that otherwise I'm gonna try modify the module and make some notches in it however even then I worry it might hit the standoffs

[onyx pier]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VEZ7O3GX_j8?si=QtnHb91ZPOzqyQR4

[crisp jasper]

Oooh hold up gon have to look at this ^^ ty

[upbeat minnow]

Did you get the email Anders?

[crisp jasper]

Ace , problem solved just gotta nab some tx stabs

Have raptor switches on the way also

[stray tiger]

I've been a bit quiet lately but as some of you may know there is a reason behind it. Despite my better judgement I am going to start streaming keyboard stuff for you guys soon. I was hoping to have this project running sooner but I decided to wait until black Friday to order the remaining pieces I needed for the setup. Almost $4k later and I hope to have everything up and running in the next 2 weeks.

[bronze grove]

Very cool 😄

[stray tiger]

It will be almost exclusively Wooting but I will for sure honor my modding roots and do some of the popular mods on stream and even try out some unpopular ones

[old swallow]

so, where you streaming and what is the name?

[stray tiger]

Still working on both of those. I'll be creating a new channel so that I can keep it separate from my current personal stuff.

[old swallow]

aah ok ok

[obsidian dagger]

OnlyThocks

[polar girder]

Sick

[dusky orchid]

Finally

[gaunt linden]

Does the foam sound better than the sillicon one for the pc plate?

[bronze grove]

Personal preference.

[dusky orchid]

The Plate on the new module Is PC or steel?

[agile grove]

PC

[dusky orchid]

Nice

[bronze grove]

Module comes with the PC plate kit.

[stable kindle]

I bet a gold plate would sound nice

bet a gold plate with my name on it would sound nicer

[marble shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[atomic solstice]

does anyone know where to find good keycaps in europe? like retailers? thank you

[obsidian dagger]

maxgaming, keygem

mmh

amazon and etsy sometimes

[atomic solstice]

oh wow max gamings great they even have tofu

tysm

[obsidian dagger]

👍

[shut hornet]

Is it safe to drill to add plate mount stabs to the original 60he pcb?

[bronze grove]

No. Absolutely not.

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-simon-cowell-britains-got-talent-nope-nah-gif-25611279

[shut hornet]

Damn

I assumed so

No way of making sure traces are safe

[obsidian dagger]

xray the board

[shut hornet]

I could

[glad ruin]

L45s vs L60

L45s for just a few keys or for the whole keyboard or none at all?

[slow wagon]

why u just dont want to upgrade the standard 60he to 60he+ ?

u are forcing us to buy a second best option or to buy 60he+ and spend for everything around 300 euro

at least add plastic case option for 60he+

[glossy pagoda]

That's a myopic view of the definition of "best'

[old swallow]

Bro, you arent getting second best. Its just different

[glossy pagoda]

The only difference between the two is the compatibility with screw in stabs

[slow wagon]

the stabs on 60he+ are better

pc plate is also better

overall 60he+ is better

[glossy pagoda]

Better, by the definition of your personal preferences with respect to feel

If you feel that way, get the module

There is no functional difference.

[slow wagon]

i want module one with plastic case.. but u want to sell me a methal one for around 100 euro 🙂

[old swallow]

He was complaining about this aswell yestrerday :/

[glossy pagoda]

Just don't get a case at all, problem solved

[bronze grove]

I welcome you to go nuts with a drill. But for legal reasons I will warn you that doing so voids all warranty

Fun fact, Jeroen doesn't even use a case. He just has the PCBA on a foam pad.

[old swallow]

Doesnt it also say you could do this on the module page

[slow wagon]

very nice option 🙂 and using the keyboard without any case right?

[old swallow]

Or just get a 30 dollar alixpress case

[glossy pagoda]

It'll sound different, but it won't function different

[slow wagon]

my dear Mark, ppl are buying wooting not only bc of the funcions! otherwhise many of them will buy a hyperx, steelseries or drunkdeer or any other. I dont think that wooting is only about the funtions and not about the quality and sound.

[stray tiger]

There are quite a few 3rd party plastic cases available you can pair with the module.

[old swallow]

But wootings functions are objectively better. Whereas things like plate and stabs or subjective

[shut hornet]

I've already purchased every other mod option outside of the PCB alreaedy

I have no use for the additional pc plate and poron/silicone pad which comes with the 60he+

[glossy pagoda]

The reason that the plastic case is not available to purchase with the module is because it doesn't make financial sense for us to maintain that as a product.

[shut hornet]

but I prefer screw in stabs

[bronze grove]

The whole thought process of the module was to not include the dang case.

[shut hornet]

so I am basically remaking purchases if I buy the 60he+

[bronze grove]

NO CASE WHEN WOOTING

[old swallow]

Just build 2 boards. Ez

[shut hornet]

I've got other keebs to build already otherwise I would

[old swallow]

When wooting 0HE, no pcb, no plate, no switches, no case, no keycaps

[crimson sky]

Then just sell one of them?

[shut hornet]

I could sell but i don't have the patience for that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson sky]

Next you complain about the next board being a preferable layout to you

[glossy pagoda]

All you get is the strap?

[crimson sky]

And then having to own multiple boards because you want that

[crimson sky]

And stabs

[old swallow]

It will do

[shut hornet]

I'll take it

best part of the keeb

[slow wagon]

so now, i dont want to order the regular 60he bc it is already old and there is a better option. And i am not ready also to buy a 60he+ with methal case bc it will cost around 320+ euro for me which is too high! then what can i do?! nothing right

[bronze grove]

They're literally identical save for screw in stabs.

[shut hornet]

buy a tofu60 case

[polar girder]

But it says plus

That means it’s better

[bronze grove]

[slow wagon]

@shut hornet the problem with tofu is that it has high profile

[shut hornet]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0

you're telling me none of those cases would work for you?

[old swallow]

Plenty of choice

[untold wigeon]

The stabs on the 60he are fine tbh

[shut hornet]

I have a Mekanisk Fjell only because woot were late to the market with the metal case

[untold wigeon]

If u want a plastic case just get that

[shut hornet]

personal preferance

[glossy pagoda]

Here's the reality: the products available for purchase are on the storefront and you can make the best possible decision for yourself and your situation.

[shut hornet]

I will sell you my plastic case for $50 + shipping

you'll get the strap

[shrewd hatch]

I'll do for 40 😅

[shut hornet]

lol

[old swallow]

36,69 best i can do

[shrewd hatch]

Mines just goanna be gathering dust after I case swap

[shut hornet]

I already have mine gathering dust

Next day shipping

[shrewd hatch]

Wouldn't be a bad idea to keep if u ever wanna resell it down the line though

[shut hornet]

hell you get me the money fast enough and I'll touch grass today just to get it shipped

[untold wigeon]

I forgot where I put my plastic case

[loud zephyr]

Stock Wooting goes hard and besides just buy a case when funds permit later on

Meanwhile you can mod it like mine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/167181566978555904/1152919350374830100/strap.jpg?ex=657597d1&is=656322d1&hm=0be9c8e7ef4237feba96b176c2ff316768fb0fd8c189ab4000e3899b964e8ace&

1vs1 me

[shut hornet]

that is concerningly high effort

[old swallow]

Just wait till i put a sword on mine

[crimson sky]

No bolas?

[old swallow]

No balls?

[shut hornet]

oh what layout does woot use on their 60% ansi pcbs?

[crimson sky]

Ansi

What kinda question is that

[loud zephyr]

bro still rocking mechanical hard drives

[crimson sky]

Ssds for mass storage are still stupid expensive

Also decommissioned

[shut hornet]

good point I'm stupid

brain is running slow this morning

[crimson sky]

I mean maybe i just didn't get what you mean, in which case maybe try to be more specific

[shut hornet]

looking to build a 60% and can't find a pcb that uses the ansi layout that woot does, closest is the pok3r layout

[old swallow]

pretty sure that the ansi is just what is considered standard 60%

[crimson sky]

It's bog standard 60% ansi

A lot of people just build with tsangan bottom row

[old swallow]

Also, parry this you filthy casual

[loud zephyr]

that looks photoshopped

[shut hornet]

that's they layout I find most often so it's why I'm confused

[crimson sky]

That's tsangan bottom row

A lot of boards support both layouts

They usually have an image that shows available layouts

Where areas with options are colorcoded

[old swallow]

but that one is smaller no? so a board couldnt support both of those

?

[crimson sky]

No

It just has a different bottom row

[old swallow]

ooh wait nvm

[crimson sky]

The standard layout used nowadays was a later modification to that

Same width

Also tsangan, just wkl additionally

[old swallow]

i tought those were also 1.25u, but those keys are 1.5u

[crimson sky]

SOMETIMES you will find something with cwkl or chinese wkl

[old swallow]

and 7u spacebar

[crimson sky]

Which has one less 1.25u key

Ye

Tsangan = 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u, 7u, 1.5u, 1u, 1.5u

[old swallow]

i got thrown off by the weird backspace and right shift layout here

[crimson sky]

Nah

Just a common thing to do with 60s

[harsh dove]

Anyone have any good stand alone numpad recommendations?

[old swallow]

its indeed same with

[harsh dove]

Asking for a friend

[crimson sky]

But boards that have those almost always regular backspace and right shift

[crimson sky]

Buy a used one

[harsh dove]

He don’t want used lol

[old swallow]

im using a Feker JJk21, PC plate, gasket mount. wireless with dongle or BT. and has a knob

[crimson sky]

Skill issue

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[crimson sky]

Keychron has a nice one iirc

[shut hornet]

ah, it's a plate issue, was looking at salvation cases and the plate for those only supports the one layout

[crimson sky]

Otherwise buy whatever cheap thing, there a tons of cheap mech numpads

[crimson sky]

Pretty sure it offers multiple

[old swallow]

is it just plastic tho, no alu body. but its only €40 on whatgeek

[harsh dove]

I’ll check this out thank you

[harsh dove]

I’ll look at that too thanks

[old swallow]

€40 with free worldwide shipping aswell it seems

[harsh dove]

Okay yeah cause he’s in Netherlands so

[old swallow]

well, so am i.

[crimson sky]

Nvm actually doesn't

[plain pivot]

It has arrived

[crimson sky]

But that just takes bog standard plates

Wooting pc plate would work

[shut hornet]

GDI now I have a reason to buy the 60+

[crimson sky]

Also tsangan is just better

Smh

[shut hornet]

nah

I don't need the babies first spacebar tyvm

[crimson sky]

Based baby

[shut hornet]

My tism has issues with the 7u spacebar and I've had to stop typing with it because of how irritated I got

[cyan adder]

can someone explain what is tadpole mount?

[crimson sky]

It's a variation on top mount made by geon

Has tadpole-ish looking rubber parts that secure the plate in the case

And was used first in the frog tkl, hence the name

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/3VD9VVjyywA?si=h4_X2PZDT2nGYyya

Go to 5:00 minutes

If you don’t wanna watch it all

[crimson sky]

That bongo is by far the most expensive part of the build

[harsh dove]

Facts

I was kinda surprised when he said $350 budget board

Like $350???

But it is pretty nice

[crimson sky]

At the time that was a banger deal for a well desigmed alu tkl

Only possible cause the deisgner owns the factory the board is made in and can drive margins stupidly low

Imo has a fatal flaw with the stock plate

And the spacebar will always suck using it

[upbeat minnow]

ANDERS

ARE YOU TROLLING ME AT THIS POINT

WTF

YOU SAID TO EMAIL YOU EARLY AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T REPLIED

HELLOOOO

[polar girder]

Don’t talk to Anders that way

[upbeat minnow]

10 DAYS NO REPLY

[polar girder]

Get bent

I don’t work for Wooting but have some respect

[upbeat minnow]

You;re opinion isn't needed buddy but thanks for white knighting

[polar girder]

Thanks for talking crap about customer service in keyboard modding

Hurr durr

[upbeat minnow]

its the only way to get a reply clearly

hope you never have issues with your keyboard

[polar girder]

Same

Thanks

[upbeat minnow]

had my wooting less than a month pcb isnt working and im waiting 10 days for a reply. what a complete joke

was told earlier to send an email to refresh his memory and he still hasn't replied

[shut hornet]

Don't need to get pissy, you're dealing with humans not robots

[upbeat minnow]

I have every right to be pissy. Why tell me you're going to do something and then not bother to do it.

[shut hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Agree to disagree

[upbeat minnow]

sure

I just want a working keyboard

[shut hornet]

But hey they don't give lessons on how to be respectable to everyone

[upbeat minnow]

spent close to £1000 on this thing and had it less than a month

[shut hornet]

How the hell did you manage to spend 1k on it

[upbeat minnow]

fjell keycaps wooting from ebay

and yes it was brand new

[shut hornet]

Interesting

[upbeat minnow]

ah well maybe one day I will get to use it

[shut hornet]

You've described my exact keeb and I'm still below $750 usd

[upbeat minnow]

£270 for my wooting

£300 for fjell with customs fees

£250 keycaps

[shut hornet]

I'm sorry for the weak pound that sounds painful

[marsh saffron]

You bought a wooting on eBay or your keycaps are from eBay?

[upbeat minnow]

the wooting

because it was sold out

[marsh saffron]

And now your complaining about it being broken?

[upbeat minnow]

it was brand new

[marsh saffron]

Expecting what exactly?

[upbeat minnow]

warrantly

[marsh saffron]

You still didn't buy it off of them

[upbeat minnow]

obviously

makes no difference

[marsh saffron]

You don't have warranty

[upbeat minnow]

of course I do

[polar girder]

lol

[marsh saffron]

I'm fairly certain it does....

Literally every product I've ever owned works like that

If you don't buy from the manufacturer you do not get their warranty as they never had your business

[upbeat minnow]

Well if thats the case I'll have to return it on ebay

makes no difference

they will still need to sort it

[polar girder]

Product Warranty
WORLDWIDE: Every Wooting keyboard has a minimum 2-year up to 4-year manufacturer’s warranty from the date of shipment. This covers defects in workmanship and materials during normal use. The LED backlight proportion on any product has a 2-year warranty on failure during normal use. Open a ticket to issue your warranty. A valid date of purchase and proof of purchase is required. If you bought it from the Wooting store, you won't need a proof of purchase.

[marsh saffron]

That would be the correct way to go

[upbeat minnow]

clearly says if you bouhgt from the wooting store which means they honour warranties for boars purchased elsewhere

[marsh saffron]

Only company I've ever seen do that

[upbeat minnow]

I have proof of purchase

I've already sent it in my email

twice

[polar girder]

Yeah maybe you get lucky and get help

Good luck

[shut hornet]

You're in luck wooting is chill, there have been other companies who wouldn't extend warranty after resale

[marsh saffron]

Like 99% dont

That's why I figured wooting didn't

It's weird that they do

[upbeat minnow]

Well if they kept the board stocked I wouldn't have to pay scalpers prices

[marsh saffron]

But good in your case ig lol

[upbeat minnow]

would be shitty not to honour warranty

[marsh saffron]

If you had patience like a normal human you wouldn't either

[polar girder]

lol man you full of complaints, eh

[shut hornet]

Honestly

[marsh saffron]

That's in you not wooting dawg

You paid scalpers like an idiot instead of waiting lol

[upbeat minnow]

Glad you all have working boards

[cyan adder]

If you buy it aftermarket (even brand new) like u did on eBay, the original owner need to transfer the ownership and warranty to you, by a process that is described in their website

[upbeat minnow]

no point continuing this conversation

[polar girder]

Yeah cuz I bought from Wooting

[shut hornet]

Like I bought my keeb from wooting months ago and waited to get it

[upbeat minnow]

if anders would reply to my emails wouldnt have to come here

hopefully one day Ill get a reply

bye

[polar girder]

Bye

[shut hornet]

[bronze grove]

What'd I miss.

[harsh dove]

To be fair, nobody is going to want to respond to you or help you when talking like that.

[bronze grove]

[shut hornet]

An email apparently

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[harsh dove]

Someone’s malding because you didn’t respond to email #167494367

[sand oasis]

GIGACHAD

Damn that sounds nice

Might have to give them a go

Soon I’m sure the pc plate will come for iso

[harsh dove]

I wish wanting a working keyboard was my biggest problem in life

[bronze grove]

I haven't seen any emails. Please PM me your email address, and I'll look at it tomorrow before I go on holiday.
It's like 9:30 here.

[velvet egret]

^ 9:40pm

[delicate canyon]

Hi guys, for the 60HE+ Module, wanna go for the tofu60 do I need to take a plate? what's the difference between the one already included?

[bronze grove]

You already get our special PC plate with the module. No reason to overspend on the Tofu plates as well.

[shut hornet]

I would use the plate that comes with the 60he+

[shut hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/what-he-said-look-up-see-that-caujuan-mayo-caujuan-gif-20835281

[delicate canyon]

OK! Thanks appreciate it 🙏

[sand oasis]

also make sure you get the redux

Not the tofu60v2 or whatever it’s called

[wispy peak]

even after lubing do the lekkers sound rattly to anyone else

or am i just shit at lubing lol

[wary pollen]

Nah, that's just Gateron HE tolerances for ya

[wispy peak]

damn

[sand oasis]

Even with a film there is still rattle

[wary pollen]

yup, cuz it's mainly caused by stem wobble

[wispy peak]

and the lekkers are the only switches compatible right

[wary pollen]

nope

[wispy peak]

which other ones are there?

[wary pollen]

There are the KS-20 from Gateron, and Raptor HE switches from Geonworks

[quiet bay]

Raptor HE switches sound better

[wary pollen]

speaking of which, I just relubed mine with a reaaaaaaally light coat of gpl105 on the stem

[wispy peak]

damn thats good

[gaunt linden]

Should i buy those over the L45’s?

[wispy peak]

this is mine rn, honestly sounds better through video than irl

[severe junco]

shoud i buy 60he?

[plain pivot]

Yep

[wispy peak]

worth it for sure

[plain pivot]

Is that the tape issue people were talking about on the side?

[wispy peak]

yup

[plain pivot]

Sounds good btw

[wary pollen]

Your call, really. Really depends if you're willing to sacrifice lighting, and a slightly shorter actuation distance or not

[wispy peak]

sounds clackier and more rattly irl though

[plain pivot]

I have the stuff to lube mine but I think I wont have the time till tomorrow... any tips for a first timer?

[stray otter]

I wonder what the breakdown of aluminum/aftermarket cases is on the 60HE.

[untold wigeon]

what case

and what mods

[wary pollen]

take your time

[stray otter]

Gotta think the Tofu is far and away the most common.

[untold wigeon]

by shorter actuation do you how hard you have to press down

[plain pivot]

Ah okok ty

[wispy peak]

how far it can be pressed down

[untold wigeon]

nix do u also plan on filming the switches

[wispy peak]

also do the L45s sound different than the L60s?

and feel different

besides the weight of course

[wary pollen]

Frog mini case/Carbon fiber plate/Well tuned Akko TPU plate mount stabs/ Raptor HE switches relubed with a light coat of GPL105

[wispy peak]

oh i saw that on reddit lol

[wary pollen]

only real "mod" would be the mounting style change

other than that, just some good ol' TLC on every part of the board

[untold wigeon]

do you think there would be a difference in sound if i used the redux instead of the frog

also why no foam?

[wary pollen]

significant difference between mounting styles

you can get close by using the gummy o ring mount in a tofu redux, but it would still have hard contact points still so not 100% same

[wary pollen]

doesn't lend to my preferred sound, and I like hearing the raw sound of the board(and what characteristics the build will have) and not necessarily the sound mods done to it.

[stray otter]

I took the foam out of my Blade case. Sounds better to me now.

[harsh dove]

Just received another compliment about the way my board sounds from another coworker

[normal shoal]

Anyone got a spare Take Control strap? Would happily buy it off them

[harsh dove]

[stray otter]

1,500 or noodz

Your choice

[untold wigeon]

i dont really use mine

[normal shoal]

1500 Zimbabwe Dollars

[untold wigeon]

but it depends where you aree

[normal shoal]

Deal

[untold wigeon]

in in canda

[wary pollen]

The only sound altering work I would normally do are related to the mounting, lubing, and changing the material of certain parts of the build (Plate, keycaps, switches, etc)

[normal shoal]

I pay for shipping

[untold wigeon]

where you located?

[stray otter]

I kinda want to try the O ring mount.

[untold wigeon]

o ring mount is very nice

[wary pollen]

are you using the Blade 60?

[stray otter]

Yeah.

Nonstarter?

[polar girder]

Yo how those raptors feel, big homie?

I’m like one click away

[wary pollen]

You're in luck, that's the best case for the Wooting to get a true gummy o ring mount

[untold wigeon]

btw are the raptors worth it?

[normal shoal]

F

[polar girder]

Even after buying the l45’s

[normal shoal]

Sliding into your DMs

[wary pollen]

Raptors are well worth the price imo

[stray otter]

Noodz it is then. They don't have to be yours. Any C list celebrity or above works too

[wispy peak]

L45s vs L60s, the first one is the L45s

[polar girder]

You have the l45’s? @wary pollen

[harsh dove]

Not worth the shipping

[normal shoal]

Where’s the fun in that

[wary pollen]

I do not, but I have tried both KS-20 colors and L60's

[untold wigeon]

no shot they sound that diff

[normal shoal]

I rather scar you for life with my n00dz

[wary pollen]

I live in Asia

[stray otter]

LOL

[harsh dove]

Lucky mf lol

You and Sno Jed

[wary pollen]

Also, Geon is working with vendors for easier accessibility to their products

[stray otter]

Am I right in that they O ring mod negates the need to screw in the PCB assembly? Because being able to avoid tiny fuckin screws would be tremendous.

[untold wigeon]

no screws required

[wary pollen]

yup, friction fit is all you need

[untold wigeon]

just put that bitch in

[stray otter]

IN

[harsh dove]

I also don’t feel like I did a ton of mods to my board really, all I really did was hand lube switches and do switch tape mod , and 1 layer of moleskin on the PCB , gummy o ring mount and a couple piece of foam for the stabilizers

[polar girder]

How the raptors compare to the whites? (I think those are the lighter spring ones)

[stray otter]

That should do it for me then since I've got the tape and pulled the foam. I don't plan on changing the caps.

[harsh dove]

Awesome to hear thanks!

[polar girder]

I should probably just buy the raptors

[harsh dove]

I’m tempted to pay the $57 shipping

Trust me

[stray otter]

If the Raptors are carried for NA I'll consider it down the road.

[polar girder]

I love the lightness of the l45’s tho

[wary pollen]

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things that's a reasonable amount of mods. But the goal for my modding is to bring out the best sound of the board without passing it through a filter per se

[wispy peak]

the l45s sound deeper and are smoother than the 60s

also have less rattle

[wary pollen]

I have another Wooting mounting conversion I haven't done a vid about yet, and it involves the Blade 60 lol

first was the PSD60 Gasket mount, and my current favorite the Frog Mini with Tadpole mount. But there is a third option outside of Tray mount

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel you on that , i think mounting style and good lube job is all you really need as long as other hardware is good quality but all depends on what sound you’re going for, everyone is different

[polar girder]

Prob no switch tape mod needed for raptors

Prob save me three hours

Worth

[harsh dove]

No

[wary pollen]

Yeah, exactly. Which is why I don't really judge people for their choice of config

[quiet bay]

There is still some chatter tbh

[stray otter]

Go on.....

[polar girder]

Raptors with two layers, end game?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m sure you can def still do switch tape mod for a diff sound

[polar girder]

[wary pollen]

here's a bright idea I commented on one of the Reddit posts

[stray otter]

I caught a lot of hate for my sound test so I'm curious. I'm not actually that anal myself but I'm curious about how it can be improved.

[wary pollen]

use a single layer of masking/painters tape as a switch pad under your switches of you're going for a fuller sound

[harsh dove]

I wonder if moleskin would be nice for this too

[wary pollen]

won't affect actuation as much as you think

[harsh dove]

Moleskin is thicker tho

[wary pollen]

I recommend Painter's and Masking tape only

[harsh dove]

But I don’t think too thick to affect actuation point but not sure

[stray otter]

When you say moleskin are you talking about the shit you use for blisters?

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

[harsh dove]

Yep

[wary pollen]

very thin, and the adhesive is residue free

[harsh dove]

Yeah the moleskin I got is residue free as well

[stray otter]

Folks actually use that shit huh. Interesting.

[harsh dove]

But like I said , thicker than masking tape

[stray otter]

I used painters on my PCB because it's what I had handy.

[harsh dove]

Yeah most don’t carry moleskin so painters tape is more accessible

[wary pollen]

you'd be surprised at the diff one layer can make on the build

[stray otter]

I need to figure out which o ring I need. To the search!

[harsh dove]

I haven’t done any other switch mods besides switch tape so might think about trying that @wary pollen

[wary pollen]

Graveshift 60% O rings from Keebcats

[wispy peak]

why only 1?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have a Graveshift M-size O-Ring 40A

[stray otter]

Ship to NA without ass bleeding shipping?

[wary pollen]

so it doesn't obscure the mounting pins, and the assembly is as flush as it can be

[wispy peak]

i put three layers but i can try only 1

[wary pollen]

2nd one is only one layer

[harsh dove]

Hes talking about between the PCB and the plate , under the switches. Not under the PCB

[stray otter]

Presumably if you're usually masking/painters for that you're doing it similarly to the PCB, in strips, and simply clearing the switch holes yeah?

[wispy peak]

oh

[polar girder]

PCB>tape>plate foam>plate

Or skip the foam. But yeah

That’s interesting

[harsh dove]

Yeah I run no plate foam rn

[polar girder]

Seems iffy tho lol

[stray otter]

I got that, I was just wondering if he was hand cutting the pad from the tape

[cyan adder]

u dont make hole for switches pins?

[stray otter]

Because that's incredibly tedious

[wary pollen]

with one layer, the switches can pierce through no problem

[cyan adder]

ok

[stray otter]

That's exactly what I thought

[harsh dove]

Same

[wary pollen]

keep in mind those sound tests are with KS-20's/Lekkers so mind the chattering

[stray otter]

Do they make black masking tape? I'd definitely do this to cover the white plate.

I'll have to take a look at that.

[polar girder]

Yo what about plate switch tape mod lol

[wary pollen]

if you're recoloring plate, just spray paint it tbh

[polar girder]

Like for the switch housing but where the switch hits the plate

[wary pollen]

that's a thing for keeping a snug fit for the switches once the pins wear down

[stray otter]

I don't want to fuck with spray paint to be honest.

[polar girder]

Just tape in between every contact surface lol

[wary pollen]

My January batch 60HE PCB has seen some shit lol

[stray otter]

That's the same era as mine. Obviously mine was NA tho. Sox I believe.

[wary pollen]

Once I get my hands on the KBDfans CF plate, I'll be making a vid about the Blade 60 mounting mod I've had rattling in my head for a while now

tried it with the steel plate

it wasn't pleasant

[stray otter]

After seeing BadSeeds vid I don't feel like chasing the plate change since it's going to make a nominal impact in feel.

[wary pollen]

oh, but it does

it didn't make a difference because he was on the Redux

[dreamy drum]

Finally all set with my keycaps, maker of the set was kind enough to toss in 9 spare unique caps he was messing around with while making and said he never got around to doing anything with, decided to use one on the ESC key

[wary pollen]

it wasn't the standoffs that made it stiff

[polar girder]

Yeah I got mine Jan I think

[untold wigeon]

Yea it doesn’t do much for feel but sound it does

[polar girder]

NA-Toothpaste

[wary pollen]

it was the case mounting points

[dreamy drum]

All it needs now is a dark blue tofu redux

[stray otter]

I'm simply not anal enough about sound to spend the money when I'm already $500+ in.

[harsh dove]

I wanna check out this Blade60

[wary pollen]

I'm way too deep into the hobby now lol

[untold wigeon]

I think I spent $350 for everything i modded my keyboard with

[wary pollen]

legit got it as a side gig nowadays

[stray otter]

I value performance over the sound so it's not worth it.

[untold wigeon]

why not both

[wary pollen]

I.......don't wanna add up the cost of my build lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I just started keyboard modding not too long ago and am on my 2nd board and roughly $1600 in

[untold wigeon]

Lol

[polar girder]

Yeah let’s not talk about costs

[wary pollen]

Got both w/ my build lol

[polar girder]

Just the best mods

[harsh dove]

Don’t even have the 2nd board in my hands yet

[untold wigeon]

Lmao same

I love my wooting

[wary pollen]

I got one grip w/ the Wooting and it's just a nitpick tbh

Layout

I need me a 7u spacebar and split backspace

[untold wigeon]

I can’t game on another keyboard. It just feels too slow

Or delayed

[wary pollen]

Hall effect arms race has just begun, friends

many more this year for sure

[untold wigeon]

100%

[obsidian dagger]

this year?

[untold wigeon]

Next yr he probs meant

[wary pollen]

upcoming* year

kek

[untold wigeon]

The modtap feature alone makes wooting better than the others imo

[wary pollen]

Had that on QMK a while back and I'm glad it's avaialble on a gaming grade board too

[polar girder]

Modtap slaps

So hard

[wary pollen]

I used write the lines for scanrate, polling rate, and modtap into the firmware in QMK on my previous main board lol

[polar girder]

Never that lol

Good for you I guess

But naw lol

[untold wigeon]

I use modtap all the time now lol

I used to switch my keyboards out depending on the game but I don’t need to anymore

[wary pollen]

I wonder if anyone else has their Capslock in a mod tap config similar to mine

[harsh dove]

No but ive been meaning too

[wary pollen]

4.0mm actuation, Tap for Caps lock, Hold for layer 1

[harsh dove]

I’ll most likely do something similar or the same tbh

[untold wigeon]

My caps lock is also 4.0 actuation but that’s it

I always accidentally press it when I’m gaming

[wary pollen]

wanna see my cursed 60% layout on soldered mx boards?

[harsh dove]

Wish someone made a carbon fiber case

And don’t send me that stupid Etsy one

[wary pollen]

that's an interesting concept

what's the design like? molded CF or stacked sheets?

[polar girder]

Stacked sheets All resined together and CNC’d?

[harsh dove]

The one on Etsy is like a forged carbon rather than layers

Which I don’t like

[wary pollen]

honestly, if you can find design files for a stacked acrylic 60% keyboard case p sure you can have it done on CF plates

[harsh dove]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1565713907/carbon-fiber-keyboard-case-full-carbon

[stray otter]

Of course the O ring is outta stock

[wary pollen]

not insanely expensive either cuz it's mostly laser cutting

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[wary pollen]

Thank Badseed for that lol

[stray otter]

THAT BALD BEARDED FUCK

[harsh dove]

Yup that’s why I ordered 3 when I bought o rings lol

[wary pollen]

check around the forums like Geekhack for O ring measurements and I think you can find some generic ones anywhere lol

[polar girder]

Yeah I forget which bakenko I ordered but I’ve had mine a while

Still not used it yet tho ☠️

[wary pollen]

that's what modders here do for their o rings

[stray otter]

Meh. I can wait.

[wary pollen]

I still think Gasket Mount is viable option for those that want more mellow sounding 60HE

[stray otter]

Remind me again. I know I've seen it, but this shit's running together at this point.

[wary pollen]

damn shame KPRepublic don't have the damn plate files available to the public so we can fab properly fitting plates lol

[wary pollen]

https://youtu.be/W6sny3CQalE?si=Tqv62WQN30WyWoSo

The first mod I did on my 60HE

never used it in the plastic case lol

[harsh dove]

Bro blew out vape smoke before he started haha

[wary pollen]

My desk, my rules lol

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

[harsh dove]

I saw it as a form of preparation lol

[stray otter]

Why does gasket sound like the same as a burger mod.

[harsh dove]

For what’s to come

[wary pollen]

picture a lunatic that took a drill to a bnew 60HE pcb back when the scarcity was at it's worst.

[wary pollen]

hard to tell the diff on vid, but Burger mount sounds harsher and less consistent from row to row

[stray otter]

Not the sound, the concept.

You're buffering with material.

[wary pollen]

more or less, it's just isolating the assembly from the case