🔧│keyboard_modding

[lucid owl]

Instead why don't you just buy one of my many GMK sets 😏

[untold wigeon]

whats that

[harsh dove]

Do I put these keycaps on now while I wait for my Alumaze or do I wait for eveyrthing to arrive before I start modding

[loud zephyr]

All your spacebars are wrong: 10u is where it's at

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1128520903706279967/Screenshot_2023-07-12_125643.png?ex=655433fe&is=6541befe&hm=58c698fb98d07cb9815e2b98e62d063bea6f8ba9968c0f4d76cb6a486fc55da5&=&width=1141&height=728

[harsh dove]

This

[lucid owl]

10u is sick

[harsh dove]

Peak Space Bar

[lucid owl]

That Big Fat Enter is sick aswell

[harsh dove]

Lmao I didn’t even see that

[quiet bay]

10 is crazy 😭

how many things are balancing it

[loud zephyr]

DCS have some nice sets but the keycaps are so thin, sounds like ass to be honest

[harsh dove]

Them Dell Keyboard sized legends are killin me tho lol

[quiet bay]

that enter key looks funky

[lucid owl]

Big boi

[loud zephyr]

I've yet to try 10u, wasn't my kb

[loud zephyr]

Class80?

[quiet bay]

it looks so funny

[harsh dove]

Chonky but dope

[lucid owl]

Yessir

[quiet bay]

got a chonky boi

[loud zephyr]

THey should've kept the pen holder for the Class60, such a nice touch

[lucid owl]

Yeah I was looking at the class60, saw it a meetup and was really dope

Have too many boards as it is, and my Salvation is Peak 60% ngl

[loud zephyr]

I can't imagine a keyboard that would be as comfortable to type on as the Class60, the bounce is real

[lucid owl]

Biggest draw for me is EC support, but the class80 R2 be getting it now aswell

[loud zephyr]

Saweet

[static dust]

hi guys, just joined the server. Im super noob at keyboard modding.

Do you guys think its possible to transfer the pcb of the wooting full size into the corsair k70 housing? The layouts between the keyboards are slightly different, and seems like the corsair is more compact

Ty

[loud zephyr]

Doubtful given that there's no standard size for full sized keyboards, the slightest variation would be enough to prevent compatibility

[lucid owl]

yeah really big chance the case is not compatible unless you wanna trim it to precision and even then big chance it won't work

You are better off modding the case it comes with

[static dust]

been using a corsair for literally 10+ years

the small size diff of keys + the wrist rest makes using any other keyboard feel so weird

:' )

[harsh dove]

I like the koi on the back of the Sumi Box

[loud zephyr]

You pretty much have a Unikorn if you cut the fish out and stick it underneath the keyboard

[quiet bay]

my friend wants this keycap set lol

[lethal dove]

That would be the kohaku :D

[loud zephyr]

Lol, Unikorn would be a Unicorn, what am I smoking

I like the Kohauka bottom a lot more

[lethal dove]

Looks like the good stuff, send some over

[loud zephyr]

[lethal dove]

Both rly nice, tho if I had to choose I would take the korn, the full size weight is just so nice looking

But the red kohaku with the red koi fish is damn sexy

[fluid ravine]

Seggsyy

[loud zephyr]

My favorite bottom design though, Parallel Snake

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1131817968402178069/Screenshot_2023-07-21_151934.png?ex=654dbd9f&is=653b489f&hm=7b5c7bdb50e0089217769e6efbad3667595b8d94fe2f04ba0dbb6202e344970b&=&width=1141&height=607

[lethal dove]

Doesn't do it for me honestly, but I can appreciate the design work

[loud zephyr]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0061/5687/7924/files/DSC06104_Large_d5dff51d-3661-471f-a5f3-54cf994b790a.jpg?v=1666253878

Way too normie but the Kohaku hits

[lethal dove]

That's the colour I wanted but it would have been like an extra 80€

Hit a soft spot there

[loud zephyr]

I'm presuming that extra 80e is a different type of coating? Otherwise ouch

[harsh dove]

lmao true

[lethal dove]

It's still anodized, but making one off colours for anodizing is a lot of work for 1 part as I have understood. Understandable just still made me sad

Checked some local shops, so I could just order a blank case and they don't even offer custom colors xD they had black and clear. And only custom colors for big batches

[harsh dove]

too bad Kohaku doesn't make a 60%

[loud zephyr]

A case for the Unikorn? I'd be madge if it didn't come with one. You reach a certain price point when there should some goodies thrown in

[lethal dove]

Be happy, would just experience loosing raffles for a case you rly want

[harsh dove]

Yeah I bet

[lethal dove]

I mean the keyboard case, I got a custom one ordered where I tried getting the Korn colour

Not an actual Korn sadly xD

[loud zephyr]

I see, I see. Definitely a nice shade of green

[covert lodge]

If I’m going to use the o-rings that came with the plate and foam in the alumaze, I should use the 2 gold standoffs right

[fluid ravine]

im home

yay

[harsh dove]

Welcome home

[fluid ravine]

thank you:>

oki

ima continue wire balancing

[fluid ravine]

god why is this so hard

[quiet bay]

ima try to do 3 layer switch tape again

this time with more keys

also list of things I wanna try out :c

[cyan adder]

did u removed ur switch tape?

[quiet bay]

no

[cyan adder]

if so; why

[quiet bay]

I still have 2 layers

[cyan adder]

oh

[quiet bay]

but im going to try adding one more again

[cyan adder]

whats your thought on 3 vs 2

[quiet bay]

giving it one last chance

for mine it's eh

it sounds more solid but its way more high pitched for me

[cyan adder]

actually i find 3 layer being too tight for the stem

[quiet bay]

idk about tuan

[cyan adder]

it sounds good but the feeling when u press the key is not good

[quiet bay]

why?

did u do it right

[cyan adder]

yeah i dont think i did something wrong

i mean, i just feel a little bit of resistance with 3 layers

[quiet bay]

if u feel a bump then u did it wrong

[cyan adder]

maybe i should lube a little bit extra the stem if i go 3 layers?

[cyan adder]

well not strong enough to call it a bump

[covert lodge]

Wait with the alumaze case, there’s 6 screws and 6 standoffs. But the plate kit comes with only 10 o-rings?

[cyan adder]

but like a clicky switche

[cyan adder]

i didnt see any o rings on my plate kit xd

[quiet bay]

those look removable

[covert lodge]

Do I use the middle or the one by the space bar for the burger mount

[cyan adder]

wait

did u get o rings with the pc plate???

how

[covert lodge]

Yeah

[quiet bay]

what

[cyan adder]

i got the pc plate from wooting aswell

[quiet bay]

wth

[cyan adder]

and i didnt see any of these

[quiet bay]

did u get it with the alumaze?

and no the pc plate kit?

[covert lodge]

No it was with the plate

[cyan adder]

maybe it was with the alumaze?

WTF

[quiet bay]

huh

[covert lodge]

It was in the packaging with something else

[cyan adder]

how is that possible

i didnt get that on my pc kit box

@quiet bay did u get that in your pc kit?

[quiet bay]

nope

[fluid ravine]

yeah you did something wrong then

mines very smoooth

like stock smooth

no resistance or anything

[covert lodge]

Or actually maybe ur right, I think it actually came with the alumaze

[cyan adder]

mmmh

[covert lodge]

I can’t remember I kinda just dumped it all out on my desk

But either way I don’t get which standoff to use considering the ones wooting included is only enough for 5 standoffs

[fluid ravine]

thats from the alumaze

you put those on the pcb where the standoffs go through

pc plate only comes with plate and 2 foam

[covert lodge]

Like on the top and bottom of the stand-off screw holes right

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[covert lodge]

Okay that’s what I thought, but do I use the middle screw hole or the one for the space bar?

[untold wigeon]

u can leave those alone

im in the stock case and left them alone

[cyan adder]

can u show in photos a little bit more where do u put ur switch tape mod EXACTLY @fluid ravine

[untold wigeon]

i like how the spacebar sounds without the screw in myself

[cyan adder]

maybe im putting too short cuts

[untold wigeon]

you could also buy one of the bak60 o rings and do a gummy mount

[cyan adder]

i need to see on each sides where it starts and where it stopps

[covert lodge]

Im mainly just confused on which 5 standoffs they intended for me to use

I’ll try not using the space bar one

[untold wigeon]

only 4 are really needed imo

the center and spacebar ones can be left alone

[fluid ravine]

wdym

its like the ones in the pictures

from the explaination

same thing

[cyan adder]

i saw it but

[fluid ravine]

you just got to press down the tape making sure its flat on the surface

[cyan adder]

well let me throw a draw

do you cover that part too?

let me show mine

[untold wigeon]

i get headaches just looking at that

[fluid ravine]

nah

above that

[fluid ravine]

yeah like that

make sure its flat

pressedd all the way down

[cyan adder]

yeah thats what i did

idk i might do it wrong

[fluid ravine]

even where the stem maakes contacts with the housing?

must be flat

or there will be tension

[cyan adder]

yeah it is

[fluid ravine]

then it should be fine

[cyan adder]

maybe my medical tape is too thick for 3 layers

i still have the bump

very little bump

i will need to try with another tape or just use 2 layers then

[fluid ravine]

ok

you can either let it breaak down

over time it should like smooth out

or you can start over and apply more pressure

its it very little

not too noticable then you can leave it alone

[quiet bay]

try putting lube on it

[fluid ravine]

or that

[cyan adder]

yeah this worked for one switche, i used it alot maybe 200 actuation and now its smooth

seems like it need to break in

[fluid ravine]

ya

actually

[cyan adder]

ty for help

[untold wigeon]

i have a better idea, wash ur switches remove the tape and run them dry

[fluid ravine]

when i applied the 3 layers back then
all the keys had a little bump

literally

all of them

but over time they break in

[cyan adder]

how did uget rid of it

oh

ok

did u tried without tempest mod

[fluid ravine]

but my escape key turned into a the lekker taactile

lol

[cyan adder]

actually my keyboard sounds very muted

[fluid ravine]

even when i apply lube on it or reattempt the mod
its still there

haha

[cyan adder]

maybe because i dont have tape mode

[fluid ravine]

too quiet

for me without tempestr

its too quiet

[cyan adder]

yeah

same for me

[fluid ravine]

1 layer is perfect

[cyan adder]

well i guess its the next move

im receiving nanogel soon xd

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no

gl

[cunning cove]

Does using all 6 of the standoffs on the alumaze60 do anything?

Like make it more stiff or something

[fluid ravine]

nah

already stiff anyways

idrk what it does but i dont think it does jackshit

[cunning cove]

Do you recommend using all of them?

[untold wigeon]

more screws more work so prob not

[fluid ravine]

dont got any recommendation that has to do with tray mount

[cunning cove]

Is it ok just to leave them there not filled 😅

[untold wigeon]

i mean i do that with the spacebar one in the stock case and its fine

the stock case lacks the center standoff anyways

[sleek lark]

does anyone know if this is the switches that are preventing thock or have recommendations? i added some of the case foam from the stock case and did 3 layers of tape mod. also using the foam from the pcb kit instead of the silicone t_t all i want is thock

[untold wigeon]

why does that sound so hollow and thin

what case is that

[quiet bay]

switch tape mod

[untold wigeon]

that sounds like stock switches

before you do switch tape thing lube ur switches and stabs first

[sleek lark]

alumaze t_t

[cunning cove]

What’s in there?

[untold wigeon]

that sounds really cheap

[sleek lark]

its literally just case foam and tape mod

[cunning cove]

And it sounds like that??? Wtf

[untold wigeon]

lube the switches up, it'll make a huge difference

those sound exactly like my stock switches when i got the thing

even with the pc plate and in the stock case mine doesnt sound as hollow

[sleek lark]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[untold wigeon]

yea you need to lube the switches

and fix the stabs too

[sleek lark]

ya i guess im ordering lube

[untold wigeon]

get the kit from the site

its really good

i lubed 67 switches and 5 sets of stabs with it

[sleek lark]

do u have a vid of how urs sounds?

[untold wigeon]

no but it sounds similar to the one sanders did, let me link you a video

https://youtu.be/2GJEyTl2aNY?t=152 2:32

it sounds a bit more hollow than that because i use the pc plate(i noticed this too I A and B'd them the steel plate in the original case makes the alphas way more hollow so to say but the stabs sound much better on polycarb)

I also dont use a deskpad under mine

[cunning cove]

I didn’t get a pc plate

Just straight swapping

Idk if ill do tape mod

[untold wigeon]

i noticed in badseeds tech video the steel plate in both the tofu and tofu redux sounds way too harsh

[fluid ravine]

ok i did a proper sound test now

should i do over pc mic?

[untold wigeon]

drop it

[sleek lark]

this is my first time modding a keeb so like everything is so new to me

[untold wigeon]

jesus that chair

[fluid ravine]

sorry

its 4 years old

[sleek lark]

i guess ill order the lube kit and start from there

[cunning cove]

That sounds amazing

[untold wigeon]

mine is 1 year old and does worse

[fluid ravine]

haha

[untold wigeon]

i use a markus from ikea

[quiet bay]

You probably have the most satisfying kb sound here xd

[untold wigeon]

ye this sounds much more full than ur other ones but u also did the sound test differently

[fluid ravine]

xd

[fluid ravine]

how so?

[quiet bay]

I also wanna try out polyfill

[cunning cove]

What extra did you do to it?

[untold wigeon]

i thought u did?

did u not

[cunning cove]

I meant like

[quiet bay]

i wanna put some kilmat into my spacebar if it works

[cunning cove]

New thing you added

[quiet bay]

also wanna try the kilmat as a dampener as well

[fluid ravine]

i do typing test
spam test
stabs check
then bounce check

[untold wigeon]

i meant mic placement

and allat

[fluid ravine]

ohhh

[quiet bay]

wait

how did the wire balancing go

[fluid ravine]

using my phone mic

[untold wigeon]

if its not changed from your other sound tests that is a huge difference

[fluid ravine]

its very quiet in the room so i could do a proper sound test

[fluid ravine]

its the same from the recent one

the one i tried to do quickly

[untold wigeon]

can you link it again?

thats with the stock case?

[fluid ravine]

there was alot of fans and my dad was walking everywhere

[quiet bay]

my enter key sounds nice even without stabs 🤣

[fluid ravine]

oh shi

uh holdu

im sorry i mightve not understand your questions @untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

yeah its not even that bad without stabs i'd say its sound better but its obvs not as stable

[untold wigeon]

its fine take ur time

[fluid ravine]

but yeah lemme find the stock one

[untold wigeon]

yeah i wanted to see a comparison between the stock case and that new alu case u got with the only difference being the case

[fluid ravine]

it sucked

[quiet bay]

oh lol

[untold wigeon]

thankfully all my wires were straight

[fluid ravine]

the left side is just odd

oh wait wtf

they sound ok now

ima send sound test for that

[quiet bay]

I don't have to balance mine because tx plate mount stabs come nicer stock

better tolerance xd

[untold wigeon]

tx makes plate mount?

[quiet bay]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

ok

its sending

[quiet bay]

slowly but surely

[fluid ravine]

ima do pc sound test

gimme a moment

[untold wigeon]

sure

[untold wigeon]

i mean as far stuff goes i think this is gummy mount but the sound is perfect for a gaming keyboard

[fluid ravine]

wth

i said wth

when

WHEN

lmao

the asian me just came out

[untold wigeon]

what i like abt this one is that these 4 keys on the bottom right dont sound bad as they do in the stock case for some reason

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[quiet bay]

lool bro said it in an asian tone

[fluid ravine]

literally

[quiet bay]

inner asian indeed

[fluid ravine]

everytime i say hell it always sound like the asian hail

gosh

[quiet bay]

idk how to even describe my sound

it's satisfying tho

[untold wigeon]

i also lubed 2 switches differently one with a decent bunch of 205g0 on the spring and one with a lot of it, the difference it makes is insane lmao

[fluid ravine]

done

here ya go

[untold wigeon]

i need to buy some more lube

[fluid ravine]

like the keys on the outside like numbers and functions keys they just sound odd in stock

[untold wigeon]

yeah they really do

my tab and my caps lock sound so hollow for some reason, i might overlube those 2 but im almost out of lube for now

[fluid ravine]

mines are as well

or was?

idk

[untold wigeon]

even with the new case?

[quiet bay]

lol mine sound clacky

same for my esc key

[fluid ravine]

they sound weird in general

[untold wigeon]

my escape is clacky but tab and caps are clacky and hollow

[fluid ravine]

YEAH SAMEEE

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay how this sound?

[untold wigeon]

on the steel plate it was minimised so im blaming it on the case

[quiet bay]

left kinda sound odd but not that noticeable

[fluid ravine]

ye i thought so

OH I SEE WHY I SAID WTH AND ALL THAT

[untold wigeon]

also the switches were almost perfect besides that chattering noise on the steel, the plastic one almost makes them feel like they are unlubed

[fluid ravine]

I WAS IN A VC

WAS JOKING AROUND IN LOBBY

i remember now

[untold wigeon]

im gonna try lubing the springs up more on those 2 and see how it does

[quiet bay]

the switches gotta be better in general

they suck

soundwise

[fluid ravine]

whats the top housing made of in the first place

like take that

and compare to other materials

[quiet bay]

nooo idea

[fluid ravine]

omg

guys

i think i know why

the top housing is made out of PC

[quiet bay]

wow

[fluid ravine]

IS THAT WHY

[quiet bay]

PROBABLY

[fluid ravine]

IS THAT WHY THEY SOUND SO BAD

DUDE

[fluid ravine]

NAME A GOOD SWITCH

[quiet bay]

oil kings

[fluid ravine]

THEY'RE MADE OUT OF NYLON

OF COURSE

NO WONDERRR

[quiet bay]

it seems that

the good sounding switches

consist of nylon

and some sort of other material

[fluid ravine]

no

fucking

wonder

everything just makes sense now

[quiet bay]

Pom and Nylon yis

[fluid ravine]

the only thing that is nylon in lekker switches are the bottom housing

stem is made out of pom

so is the oil kings

[quiet bay]

hmmmmm

[fluid ravine]

so the major difference is top housing

if the top housing was made out of nylon or something

IT WOULDVE SOUND AMAZING

[quiet bay]

the hell is black ink material

for gateron oil king

[fluid ravine]

I have no idea

[quiet bay]

well

oil kings got nylon top housing

and black ink material for bottom

[fluid ravine]

name another switch

[quiet bay]

uhhh

Akko cream blues

[fluid ravine]

k

doesnt show

[quiet bay]

hmm

tangerine v2

gazzew boba u4t

would be cool if Wooting got to produce their own mold of switches

that sound good

[fluid ravine]

Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene housing

[quiet bay]

holy yappy name

[fluid ravine]

unknown

[fluid ravine]

honestly

[quiet bay]

rrrrrr

[fluid ravine]

id be happy if they change the top housing mold

[quiet bay]

yeah

like the diamond avalons

[fluid ravine]

i think it would sound the same as if we have the switch tape mod

[quiet bay]

someone finally

[fluid ravine]

solid

[quiet bay]

changed the mold

and it's the diamond avalons

[fluid ravine]

lol

'

[quiet bay]

They sound very consistent

[fluid ravine]

dude should we write like a support thing to them

idk

ok lemme restart

didnt tirade say that there was a lekker 2.0

[untold wigeon]

@fluid ravine i heavy relubed the spring on both the tab and capslock, they sound so much different, they sound very similar to the left shift now

[quiet bay]

I think they went with gateron as their manufacturer anyways cuz they ran into a problem or something

[fluid ravine]

like probably in the future

[quiet bay]

😮

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[untold wigeon]

i think i just went way too light on the springs

and its been 3 months since i lubed them

[fluid ravine]

if they do
we should like write them a support thingy about changing the mold to something else

like nylon or whatever

[fluid ravine]

i lubed them lik 8 times

[untold wigeon]

i did another one but way over the top and its unusable so there is a limit to this method

[quiet bay]

hmm yeah but we aren't experts so we can't really provide them with any ideas 😭

[fluid ravine]

2 different type of lubes

lol

[untold wigeon]

what did u use?

[fluid ravine]

its an idea

[quiet bay]

Im sure they've tried

ok maybe not

[untold wigeon]

i think they need to find a way to do the switch tape mod from the factory

[fluid ravine]

ok now im thinking about it

[quiet bay]

I feel like

[fluid ravine]

why did they even choose PC in the first place

[quiet bay]

you know the slider on the stems

[fluid ravine]

wassup

[quiet bay]

I feel like the sliders could change material

[fluid ravine]

like what

i think pom is already good

oil kings uses pom

[quiet bay]

cuz currently

we gotta

actually nah

you can just change the top housing itself

[fluid ravine]

or make a box stem

and change top housing

[quiet bay]

ohh right

I remember now

I saw a switch i dont remember

but

it had like

silicone dampeners on the sliders or something

[fluid ravine]

yeah originally they were going from box stems

but something in the switch didnt work out

so

they went with gateron and chose their switches but change the colors no?

[quiet bay]

but this would def make it quieter

[fluid ravine]

so technically gateron chose the material designs im guessing

[quiet bay]

ghgrhg

i wish I was a professional in this field

[fluid ravine]

im a absolute noob in materials

but im thinking out of pure logic rn

[quiet bay]

yee

cuz honestly

the lekker switches sound very plasticy

without foam it's not the greatest

but it's very smooth

[fluid ravine]

which is pretty much the PC top housing

think about it

i tried the PC keycaps and they made they keyboard sound more like plastic

so yeah

top housing is our biggest problem

[quiet bay]

pc is too plasticy!!

[untold wigeon]

wdym pc keycaps?

[quiet bay]

lol

[fluid ravine]

polycarbonate keycaps

anyways

how do i write a message

[untold wigeon]

u mean the stock ones?

[fluid ravine]

to them giving these ideas

[fluid ravine]

i tried some akko pc keycaps one time

[quiet bay]

#1141096226884956181

this

[fluid ravine]

i didnt like them bc of sound and the performance

[fluid ravine]

alright time to become typing cat

[quiet bay]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-cat-working-type-typing-gif-7817705

[next mulch]

Any keycap and vendor suggestions?

[untold wigeon]

i hope those 2.0 lekkers come soon

[fluid ravine]

what does box stems do again

do they eliminate wobble or anything?

dust proof?

idk?

[quiet bay]

probably wobble

[sleek lark]

ordered the lube kit from wooting xD

hopefully this is where the rabbit hole ends

[untold wigeon]

it depends how much ocd you have

[harsh dove]

nope, it just begun

[untold wigeon]

when i lubed these up for the 1st time and actually for the first month too they sounded really nice but now they sound closer to stock

[sleek lark]

i mean not that bad tbh bc for the most part i cant even hear the keyboard when i have my iems in

i just want a decent thock yk?

not the shit i have now

[untold wigeon]

i have an open back headphone so i can hear it with music at normal volume

[fluid ravine]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1169845597432459304

done

[sleek lark]

spent all this money on the keyboard to look nice at least want it to sound decent

[untold wigeon]

i think what also needs to be done, they need to sell films on the wooting store

[fluid ravine]

my ass did the other way around

lol

[untold wigeon]

the amount of hours i spent lubing the backspace and now its back to rattling is killing me

i really fucking hate plate mount stabs but with pcb mount ones you cant gummy mount

i never planned on gummy mounting tbh

[fluid ravine]

just have the backspace on plate mount and get there rest to be screw in

[sleek lark]

i mean i used to not care about sound but now im just in too deep to not care a little bit

[untold wigeon]

ye well the backspace is the one thats causing me issues cuh

[fluid ravine]

then make it not have a issue

cuh

[sleek lark]

im going to just send my wooting to @fluid ravine pls send back with maximum thock

[fluid ravine]

lmao

bet

[untold wigeon]

how cuh

i poured my entire soul into this backspace

[fluid ravine]

pour less soul like i did and it will sound better

[sleek lark]

shouldve sold ur soul instead

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

💀

[untold wigeon]

i already did that

i think whats gonna happen at some point is i just need to main 2 keyboards not just one

🗿

thats the only way to fix this problem

[sleek lark]

boy math

[untold wigeon]

i gave my tofu to a family member permanently so might just build a mode envoy

[fluid ravine]

OK

[untold wigeon]

i have been eyeing that one for a long time

[fluid ravine]

I GTG SLEEP

GN

[untold wigeon]

GN

[lunar sand]

Question my friends, is the wooting PCB 1.6mm ?

[crimson sky]

yes

[lunar sand]

I guess so, and wondering if the new "Module" that Wooting is going to release of just PCB+Plate+screw'in stabs will be the same thickness

[crimson sky]

but only the module supports PCB monuted stabs

[lunar sand]

yeah yeah i know

[crimson sky]

probably

1.6mm is the "standard" thickness

[lunar sand]

but wanted to get some screw-ins TX stabs

and they are in stock but only 3 available

[crimson sky]

wait screw in TX are a thing now

[lunar sand]

so wanted to rush that 😄

is that a question or a statement? lol 😄

if its a question, yes ... they have them

😄

[crimson sky]

didn't know that

[lunar sand]

yeah, and its the rev.4

[crimson sky]

last time I looked at tx stabs it was clip in only

[lunar sand]

so latest

i know

[crimson sky]

I guess they finally caved

[lunar sand]

i was in doubt too but

Although i still think that durock v2, tuned, are pretty solid ... not so great stock ... but i never leave stock stabs

lol

[crimson sky]

I'll stick to cherry stabs anyways

[lunar sand]

ohhh and i have some akko screw'ins here to try out too ... damn ... forgot about those

[lunar sand]

Yeah i mean, tbh, i'm not super picky with Stabs ...
Although my latest builds used Durock V2 and Everglide Panda's ... just because i wanted to try them, so if the Modules comes at an ok price i may buy it to do an extra wooting and try the TX, that way i give my wooting to my kid 😄 he wanted a razer keyboard and i was able to make him go away from that idea 😄

[crimson sky]

you can make most stabs sound good

[lunar sand]

yep that's a fact

my issue usually is that i holee mod the stabs, and when they come pre'lubed its a PITA

[lucid owl]

I used to holee mod my durocks since they are very hard to tune without

Cherry clip ins and TX stabs don't need holee to sound good

[crimson sky]

good stabs

I just use 5,50€ stabs

clip them

and lube them once installed with a syringe

takes like 5 minutes from clipping to being done

👍

and they almost end up perfect

[lucid owl]

Whatever works for you

[lunar sand]

So since you had durocks and TX

do they sound that much different after you mod them ?

i mean, i know you don't need to holee mod the TX but i think at the end i will do that because it's my flow for stabs 😄 eheheh

[crimson sky]

had both durock v1 and v2

as well as tx gen 2

and post modding they sounded the same to me

same goes for cherry tho

[lunar sand]

ehehe i think, tbh

[crimson sky]

durocks were the most fiddly one tho

[lunar sand]

sometimes we overthink ...
its like, for me my durocks v2 cannot sound better right now

but i have the same experience with the everglide panda's v3 ... and they are plate mounted 😄

the differences are so minimal that if you don't do an apples to apples after mods ...

they will be perfect 😄

but... its modding ... what matters is changing things for after-market parts and getting rid of stock parts 😄

[obsidian dagger]

aint that the truth

[pine coral]

Does anyone have ceramic keycaps on there wooting ?

[weary tree]

plenty on wootstation

[harsh dove]

Decided to cop one of these

[lilac island]

dang are those really needed ?

[harsh dove]

Nope

But I wanted one

[lilac island]

i just put mine in plates/cups lol

[harsh dove]

lol yeah do whatever works

I’m just ocd

[lilac island]

haha does look pretty cool though

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[lilac island]

yeah i get you man! im little ocd with my desk too ! has to be clean and symmetrical !!!

[harsh dove]

Plus it’s only like $13

[lilac island]

oh thats not a bad price !

[pine coral]

Does anyone have ceramic keycaps on there wooting with l 45 that can answer some questions for me ??

[harsh dove]

Unfinished but wanted to try the keycaps

[mighty walrus]

I'm considering modding my wooting keycaps to show the function layer mappings on the side of the keys. I'm thinking if I can figure out how to cut through the black plastic precisely, I'll be able to fill the void with white/clear silicon to show the RGB.

Anyone think this is possible?

[obsidian dagger]

sounds possible with a cnc

or maybe etching/bleaching and a stencil?

[mighty walrus]

I don't have a CNC, but I was thinking about using a stencil to map out the material lines to be cut with an exacto knife.

I'm wondering how well the RGB will show with the current LED orientation. I think you can flip the switches 180 degrees, but it might hurt the legibility of the main text.

[harsh dove]

You can have the switches north facing or south facing

[mighty walrus]

Do you know if it visibly effects the RBG backlighting on the font?

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tried south facing with backlit keycaps personally

[mighty walrus]

I would just try it myself, but I don't have a switch puller. Never pulled one myself.

[harsh dove]

You can get one for pretty cheap

Or buy Wooting blank tool kit

https://cannonkeys.com/products/wuque-titanium-switch-puller

[cyan adder]

@stray tiger @fluid ravine yooo, do you guys have any indications to push the pcb into the case ? I actually find a o ring for « tofu 60 v1 » in a local store, 55A thought

It fits well, but I’m a bit scared to push it into the case since it seems very tight

Seems like I can’t make it fit without pushing hard, even when I push a little bit it doesn’t go in, the o ring pulls out from pcb

[echo ocean]

don’t do that, lekker switches have 0.1mm tolerances any movement and it’ll impact performance

[cyan adder]

When I push it inside it actually unfit the pcb

[echo ocean]

unfortunately you have to go with tray mount or frog mini with custom plate

[cyan adder]

It’s uneven

[echo ocean]

tofu is not o ring compatible

og v1

burger mount compatible

Placing silicon o rings on the mounting posts

[lethal dove]

I don't know about the tofu no working with o ring mount, but generally speaking when putting the pcb in with a gummy o ring mount it takes a bit of massaging so to speak to get it in

They way I do it, is I put the back in first and the sides in a bit

Then you push down so the sides can slot in

When putting in the front, place the whole assembly down so the oring touches the case

Then push in on one corner

Slowly

When the o ring starts popping out, push it back in and push the assembly down more

Slowly you get the whole thing in with the o ring sitting right

[cyan adder]

I have the redux. I just found a tofu v1 o ring

[fluid ravine]

You slide it in from head

It works

[cyan adder]

Thank you. I figured out to push the uneven / o ring part that were popping out with a soft screw driver

[fluid ravine]

Don't push it directly down into the case

[cyan adder]

Now it’s all in

But now I don’t know how to take the pcb off

[fluid ravine]

Good

[cyan adder]

XD

[fluid ravine]

Switch puller

[cyan adder]

It’s sooooo tight

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

Take one end
Hook it under the plate and pull it out

[fluid ravine]

Same here

My case is a clone of the tofu v1

[cyan adder]

And 55A has 0 bounce omg

[fluid ravine]

Yeah my bounce is doesn't respond as much

[cyan adder]

Under the plate ? Not under the pcb ?

[fluid ravine]

I will figure that out later

[fluid ravine]

Under the plate

Ok I gtg now

See ya in a few hours

[cyan adder]

It has make the sound profile so even and equal

[lethal dove]

Need to keep in mind that your pcb might be hitting the screw posts, that limits the bounce

[cyan adder]

See y’a tenz. Soon I’m gonna receive all the stuff to get my high end wooting

[cyan adder]

Isn’t it dangerous

[lethal dove]

I have a 50A and there is some bounce, but my o ring rests on the case standoffs, pcb doesn't touch anything

[lethal dove]

Is advisable to put some foam or something on the screw posts, protects the pcb and helps with stopping the sound transferring into the case via the standoffs

[lethal dove]

Don't make a habit of that, could start scratching the case or damaging the o ring, when u start taking it in and out for different mods.
If you catch it early enough you can push it in with your finger nails no problem

[harsh dove]

Debating doing burger mount or gummy o ring mount when I get my alumaze. Any suggestions or opinions?

[lethal dove]

Gummy should give you a more even sound profile, so I would go with that

[harsh dove]

Thanks, I’ll try that out

Any recommendations on o ring? Was gonna try the Bakeneko60

[lethal dove]

That's a solid one, if you can get one go with that

[harsh dove]

Awesome, thanks again

[lethal dove]

No problemo

[cyan adder]

How do you pull it out ? It’s so tight

[lethal dove]

It takes a bit of force, start at one of the lower corners. Should start coming up, can switch to the other corner and then it should pop out

[cyan adder]

What do you grab to pull it out

I tried with a keycap / switch

It popped it out

Any tools ?

[weary tree]

i have the tofu with gummy oring

to take out

i put padding on case

then use screw driver to lever from the spacebar

take out space bar and switch

slowly not too much force

but yeah careful not to damage the case and the board

and dont take it in and out for no reason

[harsh dove]

Dang, placed this order 3 hours ago and they already shipped it

👏

Anyone tried spacebar foam? And opinions on it

[cyan adder]

Nice

From which site

[harsh dove]

Kinetic Labs

[cyan adder]

Hmm where do I find that

[cyan adder]

Just got this in my mailbox few seconds ago

I don’t have time to put it now

[weary tree]

i use a pack of rubber thingy u put under keycaps

[cyan adder]

It’s exactly the same foam that u showed

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s poron foam

[cyan adder]

I have no clue what this is

But I get it

[lethal dove]

You Grab the plate, remove 2 switches, then take the switch puller an grab onto the part of the plate between the 2 switches

Just takes a bit of force, but the steel plate can handle it

[wraith notch]

O-Rings. They’re good if you want to mute the sound when bottoming out. I use .1mm actuation and try not to bottom out, so I didn’t do this mod.

[lethal dove]

Generally people call it "cheating" cause tuning the stabs and a nice keycap should to the trick, but to hell with that, whatever makes the board sound better 🤷‍♂️

[wraith notch]

If your space bar is super loud, the foam will help.

[cyan adder]

Oh. I have Pc plate btw 😂😂

[lethal dove]

Well you wanna be more gentle then

[cyan adder]

😂😂😂

[lethal dove]

Do you have 2 switch pullers or something similar?

Pulling from 2 corners would split up the force

Should be better for the plate

[harsh dove]

Sweet, lol appreciate the info

[cyan adder]

I will find a way. I always try to find my ways, I just ask if someone have specifical methods so I can save time searching

[lethal dove]

Let us know what you come up with

[weary tree]

I use a pack of hundreds of these to but anything that will protect the case is good

Then idk if its safest option

[lethal dove]

You put those between the screw driver and the case?

[harsh dove]

Seen Bad Seed Tech use something similar to this, think it was foam tho and said it was a PITA to put on lol

These look easier to apply tho

Than what he had

[weary tree]

Yea

[harsh dove]

Oh you used these for burger mount instead of keycaps?

[weary tree]

Does the job

Nah it was to remove the pcb fro tofu case

[harsh dove]

Oh

[lethal dove]

Would be scared the driver slips off, but hey if it works it works

[weary tree]

I take my time

Slides slowly

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/Vzedbe0x23E?si=pW0kKfAwK9cX1txT

And we thought we were keyboard modders

We’re only at the surface, this is end game

[weary tree]

Theres the water bottle keyboard too

https://youtu.be/EO59aD9EuD0?si=z8V0q-17e_0Ciclg

[quiet bay]

Very cool keyboard mounted wall but they're all higround 💀

36 higround keyboards and not a single custom one 😭

[bronze grove]

Way too much blank space between boards.

[fallow hearth]

what a waste of money

lmao

[bronze grove]

It's part of the brand. It has definitely paid itself back already (and I bet a lot of those were free sponsored items)

[reef lava]

For the alumaze 60 im having issues with the bottom spacebar screw, it is just not elevated enought?

[bronze grove]

Did you install the standoff?

The little golden bit.

[reef lava]

I dont see any golden bit to install here

[bronze grove]

Two standoffs were included.

[reef lava]

I got the concrete one and i see the thing on the left side

Ohhhhhh

Wait its another bag

I see it

[bronze grove]

If you want to use the screw on spacebar (optional, changes sound), you need that one.

Don't install the one in the center. Not used by the 60HE.

[reef lava]

Ohh i see

Oh we have new screws here too

Should use these then

[cyan adder]

god i went gummy o ring + tempest mod 5 layers

dang

[quiet bay]

Did 3 layers and it sounds more solid

Right one is 3 layers

Left is 2

I will relube when donr

For the 10000th time

[cyan adder]

why would you

[quiet bay]

smooth the tape out

more

also just wanna make it sound nicer again xd

[cyan adder]

is that normal that with gummy o ring mount; the pcb sit that much higher in the case that i can see almost whole plate xd, its like ugly af

[quiet bay]

U push it all the way down?

[cyan adder]

yes

cant go more

i have wooting foam 1 layer and 5 layers of tempest mod

[quiet bay]

Uhh

How much

Is it sticking out

[cyan adder]

can u show your spacebar

[quiet bay]

Kk

[cyan adder]

its not out

almost

[cyan adder]

I mean

Like this

But Ty btw

Every mod I make everyday makes me even more closer to a solid thocc

[quiet bay]

Gah dang

How angled is ur kb

[cyan adder]

It’s a tofu redux

[quiet bay]

O

[cyan adder]

So if I remember right 7 degree

[quiet bay]

pretty sure thats the same degree I got

wth

[cyan adder]

Mmmh

I might do something wrong ?

[quiet bay]

Weird

Did u

Remove top layer of wooting foam

[cyan adder]

Yes i did

well its no big deal

[quiet bay]

Cause I got wooting foam and 10 layers of tempest mod 💀

[cyan adder]

nothing really wrong

why 10 layers xd

[quiet bay]

I like it

[cyan adder]

how is it vs 5 layers

[cyan adder]

okay, i got pretty much the same as tenz

[quiet bay]

Poppy xD

Maybe its the angle

[fluid ravine]

its raised like 1mm or some shi

in stock
its like alot

[cyan adder]

yeah its alot to me

[fluid ravine]

redux right?

should be the same

[cyan adder]

Just added these to my spacebar

[quiet bay]

Ok maybe not the angle

[quiet bay]

Actually no

Its like

The same

Its probably because the plate makes it stand out more for u

[cyan adder]

ok, same as me

i got pc plate too pochizop

bruh when im done doing all the switches tape mod

[quiet bay]

U should probably try spray painting it grey or black

[fluid ravine]

lemme retake that

[cyan adder]

ill be gucci

[quiet bay]

It looks like that cuz ur plate is white

And u have grey keyboard

[cyan adder]

zzzz

[harsh dove]

was gonna say with gummy mount, your keys should line up with the case like TenZ has shown here @cyan adder

[cyan adder]

im really happy with my o ring mount actually

[reef lava]

Something odd with the feet here or am i insane, one of them seem woobly and slimmer the other one is the same as the ones it comes with so no wobble? Im kinda confused

[quiet bay]

Do u use reverse spacebar

[reef lava]

Yea its def smaller

Installed both and one i can pull out just brushing my hand thro it and the other one is stable

[reef lava]

There you go

[cyan adder]

I can’t hear the difference actually

Which one is more thocky ?

[quiet bay]

It just makes it sound more “solid”

It dampens upstroke alot more

[cyan adder]

I actually have a little bump with 3 layers. I think I’m gonna stick to 2 layers

[quiet bay]

o u did it wrong then

[cyan adder]

Nah we talked about it yesterday

Also my medical tape i found here in france is a little bit more thicker than yours so

I guess it’s normal

[quiet bay]

ig just stick with two yeah

[cyan adder]

My spacebar. Phone mic, more thocky irl

[gaunt linden]

Does anyone know if keebmat’s keebtape works with the Wooting?

[cyan adder]

Im so happy to mod my keyboard lol I think one day I’ll end this and so sad I will have nothing to mod since I’ll achieve my perfect aimed sound

[gaunt linden]

Has anyone tried it?

[cyan adder]

Yeah some people are using it

I also ordered mine, should come in next days

There was few people here using it without troubles, also they made a Reddit threat about it in wooting section

[gaunt linden]

Really?

Does it sound better than tape tho?

[cyan adder]

It should replace my actual tempest mod, or maybe I’ll use keebtape + some tape mod layers over it

You have a sound test on YouTube

1 sec

https://youtu.be/4daNGthy2vk?si=FdweN-8Riqd-N8NC

Remind that a single mod will never change the sound by a big level, the combination of multiples mods will. That’s what I’ve learned here

[fluid ravine]

no

[gaunt linden]

Thank you!!

[fluid ravine]

i hate reverse spacebar

ew

[quiet bay]

:c

[fluid ravine]

my fingers are not compatible

and it makes my stabs sound worst

[quiet bay]

Dang loo

actually

Idk if mine is even reversed

I forgor

[fluid ravine]

it is

[gaunt linden]

Wdym by reverse spacebar?

[quiet bay]

Flip the spacebar

[fluid ravine]

put your spaacebar backwards

[gaunt linden]

And whats the purpose for that lol

[quiet bay]

Other way around

[fluid ravine]

personal preference

[cyan adder]

Dang your switches tape mod

[quiet bay]

Its more comfy for me

[gaunt linden]

Is it better or something

[cyan adder]

Do the tape touch the plate ??

[gaunt linden]

Ah okey got it

[cyan adder]

I thought it shouldn’t touch it

[quiet bay]

Uhh not rlly

Its on the top housing

[cyan adder]

Bc it looks like it touch the plate xD

Maybe it’s a good idea ? To reduce the space between the plate and the switche

[quiet bay]

Almost

[gaunt linden]

Is that like a way to not use a switch film?

[quiet bay]

Films and switch tape mod are two completely different things

#1166204178759176283 message

[cyan adder]

Also as you’ve tested a lot and I’m a bit lazy to pull in / out my pcb with this gummy mount, can you tell me if I reduce the tempest mod layers, should it tend more to thoc ? I mean I have 5 layers of tempest mod. Does 3 layers will make my keyboard more thocc than poppy ?

[quiet bay]

Varies with each kb

For me the less layers I had the more clacky it was

[cyan adder]

Ok, Nice

Im stupid I’ve directly tested 1 and 5 layers, not 3

[gaunt linden]

I did not know anything about switch tape mod lol sorry, is it better ?

[cyan adder]

Now that I’ve pushed my pcb far inside the case I’m don’t wanna pull it out for nothing

[quiet bay]

Nah its fine the mod was invented specifically for lekker switches

Cause they sounded chattery out if the box

[fluid ravine]

its the solution to the chatter

[fluid ravine]

should i add some info on why it chatter

like about the thing we discussed last night

[quiet bay]

Nah it fine

we already got that whole message

[fluid ravine]

not everybody

;p;

[gaunt linden]

Is that problem fixed? Do you have a video on how to do it?

[gaunt linden]

Yea not me lol

[untold wigeon]

yeah but u still get that thunk at the end and this shit requires way more time than lubing to do lmao

[quiet bay]

The problem is fixed with the switch tape mod

But no video

[untold wigeon]

i think i'd just rather wait for better switches

[quiet bay]

I would make one if I had a camera

[velvet egret]

No phone camera?

[cyan adder]

If I don’t finish my 60 switches tape mod tonight I’m a bad guy

[quiet bay]

Its gonna be terrible

[cyan adder]

So frustrating to have 10 switches only

[untold wigeon]

how much time for 10

[gaunt linden]

So basically you just put tape around the switch or something like that or how do i do it lol

[velvet egret]

I am very curious on how to actually do it.. since i am playnning on doing it in the future for the module

[gaunt linden]

Yes me too

[cyan adder]

Well you always get very long for the first 2-3. Then I would say 3min / each. Note that I’m talking to my wife on the side

Once you’re used to it

It’s just boring after some time that you know you have all that left in to do

Also it’s not one shot every time. Sometimes I cut a little bit too short / long

So you might lose some time to do adjustments

[untold wigeon]

ok no

3 minute per switch is insane

[cyan adder]

Well actually 20/hour, in 3 hour you’re basically done

[untold wigeon]

id much rather use a diff keyboard and use this just for gaming than do that until new switches drop

[untold wigeon]

ye thats without mistakes

[cyan adder]

3 min is a large average. If I one shot all the layers without adjustments needed one switch is done under 2 min. Even 1 min 30 id say

It’s really worth doing it

If you’re really chasing thocc

[untold wigeon]

im not chasing thocc, im chasing a switch that actually sounds good

idc if its clacky deep or silent

[cyan adder]

Well at some point you would care

[untold wigeon]

obvs

[cyan adder]

After some time

[untold wigeon]

honestly i'd rather see new switches before the module

[quiet bay]

Camera cant focus for shit

[untold wigeon]

that looks way too tedious

[fluid ravine]

omg

[quiet bay]

Tbh I messed up a bit I coulda gone quicker

[fluid ravine]

dude the way that scizzor just cuts

so satisfying

[untold wigeon]

lmao

[quiet bay]

Lmaoo

[cyan adder]

Ikr ? How many times I lose taking your little piece of tape that get caught on the cissors

[stoic seal]

for the 60he plate file, how can it convert it to a .stl file for tinkercad?

[fluid ravine]

playing game rn

i waas gonnaa answer questions

but ig not

maybe later

[untold wigeon]

wait ur actually playing games with the gaming keyboard u bought?

that sounds cringe

[fluid ravine]

wtf\

lmao

[untold wigeon]

😭

i spent more time modding it than playing games with it

and the games i played were Starfield, Cyberpunk and Robocop since i got it

[cyan adder]

Okay so my actual mods :
Tofu Redux Gray + Brass Weight
PBT Keycaps Dyesub Japanese Gray Ceyment by Kbdfans
Lubbed switches with 205G0 (stem, bottom housing, springs bag lubbed with 105g0 oil)
Lubbed stabs with 205G0 (wires + housing)
Polycarbonate plate + stock plate foam
5 layers of blue masking tape behind the pcb
1 layer of stock case foam
Silicone dampener from kbdfans on the case standoffs
Spacebar Foam
Gummy O ring Mounted, pcb held by friction only, 55A

Left to do / currently in transit :
Testing keebtape
Testing « Thock films », pcb pads, plate pads from keebtape (in transit)
Swapping to Graveshift 30A / 35A O ring (in transit)
Use dielectric grease on stabs Wires (in transit)
Switches taping all my switches [2 layers]

After that I’m DONE.
My mats just landed in France days ago, still held by customs 😭😭😭

[quiet bay]

@fluid ravine AGGH THE THREE KEYS ARE SO MUTED