🔧│keyboard_modding

[daring umbra]

ykyk

[glossy pagoda]

If you irreversibly affect the physical hardware that causes it to break, that's on you. Warranty covers defects in workmanship and any problems during shipping

Taking it apart and putting it back together, adding some foam, that kind of thing, doesn't impact warranty. Doing something like a tape mod doesn't impact warranty, unless the tape you use leaves residue behind that borks the PCBA traces, etc.

[shell crown]

For that reason use painters tape for tapemod

[lilac island]

M2 (2mm x 6mm) Pozi Countersunk Machine Screw (Bolt) - Stainless Steel (A2) (Pack of 20) https://amzn.eu/d/8hzyEmW

Will these work for burger mount ?

[daring umbra]

makes sense

[shell crown]

So like if you are gonna change PCB don't do it

I mean do mods on it

But mods on keeb itself shouldn't be an issue

[shell crown]

Other than usual tapemod

[shell crown]

Is dielectric grease on PCB warranty void?

[bronze grove]

Did it fry the PCB? Then yes.
If not, no.

[shell crown]

Okay, good to know

[stray tiger]

Its non-conductive shouldnt affect anything

[shell crown]

Time to grease up my PCB

[bronze grove]

The mantra "You break it, you buy it" applies hard here. As long as you follow guides and you're careful, you should be fine.

[shell crown]

[glossy pagoda]

Do note that warranty is on a per-part basis. If you paint your case white then that would void the warranty on the case (irreparable physical change) but would have no impact on the PCBA warranty

[stray tiger]

Just keep the PCB submerged in mineral oil (obligatory "not serious")

[shell crown]

Okay that is GREAT

Also you guys sell cases only

[stray tiger]

Yes look for Alumaze60

[glossy pagoda]

Not the plastic ones, except for specific case-by-case basis such as a valid warranty claim

[daring umbra]

W for wooting!

[shell crown]

Ah heck, I need one so bad (If Nyumi doesn't sell me her extra)

[glossy pagoda]

Pick up an Alumaze60 😉

[shell crown]

I need plastic one

For its form

I mean I plan to custom paintjob it

And custom weight mount

I wish some people would sell them (dms open ofc)

[normal schooner]

I would watch the latest video @shell crown

😉

[shell crown]

I will later

[inner pilot]

anyone know which screws go where with a redux case?

can't find an install guide online anywhere

[normal schooner]

ask redux this is wooting

[bronze grove]

Ehh... no harm in asking here.

It's a Wooting compatible product after all. 😄

[lilac island]

M2 (2mm x 6mm) Pozi Countersunk Machine Screw (Bolt) - Stainless Steel (A2) (Pack of 20) https://amzn.eu/d/8hzyEmW

Will these work for burger mount ?

[lilac island]

my boy just got sat down ! xD

[fluid ravine]

Ay are there warranty for screws or wooting plastic case? 🤣

[normal schooner]

[exotic plaza]

Holy based warranty policy

Also anyone here tried mlv sound dampening?

[inner pilot]

I managed to turn my brain on and work it out lol

keyboard is pretty heavy now

[stray tiger]

If you need a replacement screw just DM @bronze grove directly with your address and he will mail you out a single screw. It should arrive in 3-5 weeks.

[fluid ravine]

Do I have to pay for shipping and whatever

[stray tiger]

Yes $19.95 domestic ground. Per screw

[fluid ravine]

😂😭

How much will it be if I run to get one

[bronze grove]

[hushed valley]

Whats the wootings polling rate

[exotic plaza]

1k im pretty sure

[snow escarp]

taychon

whater

[hushed valley]

Does it actually make a difference?

like

[snow escarp]

Jdndndn

[hushed valley]

polling rate in keyboards

[snow escarp]

yea

[hushed valley]

I can understand in mice

[snow escarp]

goes from 2ms to 1ms

depends a but

but

bit

sude i hadte pohne keub

i hate phone keybaord

[exotic plaza]

not that big of a difference but it does somehow actually feel noticable at times

[snow escarp]

i dont notice much

but i still enable it for osu

[hushed valley]

wait why's wooting 1khz then

at the pricepoint that it is

[snow escarp]

because why not

rapid trigger

analog

a lot of customizability options

[hushed valley]

rapid trigger analog and 4000hz

4000hz is a bonus

[snow escarp]

who even needs 4k hz

[exotic plaza]

i seriously doubt 4khz actually makes like any difference

[hushed valley]

No one "needs" anything above something that just works

all these features are just nice to haves

[snow escarp]

i used to use 125hz

not good for accuracy on rhythm games

less hz than my monitor

[exotic plaza]

i suppose so but for the most part anything above 1000 is not ever going to have a real difference

[hushed valley]

also 💀

Osu is legit just a shortcut to RSI

Bye bye fingers

Worse than even geometry dash lmao

[snow escarp]

ive been playing for slightly more than 2 years

and i have almost gotten rsi once

[exotic plaza]

honestly its fine if your technique isn't garbage

[snow escarp]

almost twice

[snow escarp]

i play mania not standard

so im “alright”

[exotic plaza]

probably doesn't help

[snow escarp]

fair

[hushed valley]

I think I got close on Geometry Dash to getting RSI

now the only problem is fucking eyestrain

[snow escarp]

i can vibro my fingers for 2 minutes straight

and i play stamina

so the ceiling for finger abuse is heigh

i should be fine

[high saffron]

DAMN, pc plates coming oct5? sheeee

[snow escarp]

bro

[hushed valley]

u an mc player or smth

[quiet bay]

crippling arthritis

[snow escarp]

Used to

[hushed valley]

L game

Survival good though

[polar girder]

What’s the point of this? Lol. You have a very small desk or something?

Seems so painful and unnecessary. But whatever works for you bro lol

[marble shuttle]

@mental hemlock pain

[shell crown]

One way to get limb issues

[polar girder]

Ergo AF

lol

[hushed valley]

wtf

why are the keys like that

[snow escarp]

thats basically the same colors that i use

[hushed valley]

That hurts to look at

[polar girder]

side print, cuh

[bronze grove]

Never seen side print before?

[polar girder]

with north face LED, RIP

my monitor is in my face so it helps if i have to look lol

[marble shuttle]

@mental hemlock

noo f idea

I talked with kbdfans I said can I get replacement feets they send it

[shell crown]

2 black leather straps made, anyone might want one?

[shell crown]

It's not the best but depends if you are in EU

Sadge

It's the same size as original strap, can be resized. And not perfect

Just plain leather stra

strap

Treated leather, black

It's plain tanned leather dude

What else did you expectM

?

It's high quality leather, very high quality

The guy is like 400year leatherworker family

You want it?

Can get corners treated as well

Don't have board yet sadly

1-3 days (weekend)

Tho I will probably shorten the strap

Due to it being as long as take control strap

and maybe get wider one due to other reasons

But in the end it costs me very low, basically using scraps

Cost is low, same reason why I want it small

Can get different thickness but this seems okay

[gaunt linden]

Is the new Pc plate coming with screw in stabs option?

What are some good stabilizers for this keyboard?

[bronze grove]

You'd need a PCB that supports it as well.

So... you'd need to buy the 60HE module.

[fringe quarry]

Any black sleeved cable recommendations (without a coil) ?

[gaunt linden]

I just ordered the 60he, does that mean it comes with it?

The module

[bronze grove]

No.

The Module is the barebones version of the 60HE coming soon™️

[gaunt linden]

Ooh ok gotcha!

Soooooo since I can’t use screw in stabs, what are some good sounding plate mounted stabs that you recommend the most?

[stray tiger]

The stock stabs are great!

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 for other information

[stray tiger]

Any quality cable 6ft/2m or less - https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[fringe quarry]

and who makes quality cables

[stray tiger]

Anyone not making low quality cables

[fringe quarry]

[stray tiger]

What's your cable budget?

[fringe quarry]

uh dont know the range

under 50 would be nice

even though that's kinda thunderbolt money

[stray tiger]

Honestly for straight cables, you'll be fine with almost anything under 6ft/2m that isn't bottom of the barrel.

Which the 60HE comes with.

[fringe quarry]

but yellow...

[bronze grove]

[stray tiger]

If you want something a little more premium and different. I have this cable and it works great https://wiredinstore.com/products/nightcrawler-v2-pre-order

@mental hemlock if I didn't know better I would think you have borderline turrets.

[dry trench]

Module when? i need it, current keyboard on way out and only going wooting on the next but need the module

[fringe quarry]

gotta look nice tho

[stray tiger]

Pre-order before end of Oct.

[dry trench]

ill be a happy boy then

[fringe quarry]

if it would be super easy to find those I wouldn't have asked

[marble shuttle]

bro 130 dolar lol

[stray tiger]

I said it was premium

[fringe quarry]

not a fan of those weird quick connectors things

but yeah guess i gotta be happy with some weird amazon cables

[marble shuttle]

oh didnt see make sense

[stray tiger]

You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two

[marble shuttle]

Maybe futuree why noty

[solemn trail]

Does the Wooting PC plate on the official wooting store have the same thickness as the stock aluminum plate?

[fluid ravine]

aluminum?

its steel

it aint no aluMINium

[solemn trail]

Sorry, the steel stock plate

[stray tiger]

Yes same thickness

[fluid ravine]

ughhhh
im trying to wirebalance again

i cant get it right

everytime it seem straight i flip to the other side
its warped

[loud zephyr]

unlucky, bro

[fluid ravine]

i need helppp

[loud zephyr]

sounds like you need an overpowered slab of alu to fix wires

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1039628718441758750/1099931865110040586/IMG_0476.jpg?width=1152&height=864

alternatively just use your phones screen, and two pens to twist the wire ends

[fluid ravine]

yeah im doing that

but how do i get it straighten

cus again every time i do one side
the opposite affect is on the other

[loud zephyr]

I've never gotten both sides to sit perfectly even, so I just lay the flattest side parallel to the PCB

[fluid ravine]

o

ima di that then

hope for the best'

[loud zephyr]

🙏

[stray tiger]

You don't need my opinion but if you're asking, while I believe you should always try and support the original creators/artisans, I understand it's not always possible. If there is a cap that you absolutely love and can't find or afford, do whatever makes you happy.

[loud zephyr]

The artisan drug - get out before you're hooked!

Not mine but...

🤤

[fluid ravine]

Bought a steelseries QcK M mousepad
i just noticed i bought a Medium
wanted a large but i dont got the receipt since i paid in cash
welp

thinking of getting https://keebmat.com this

[digital gust]

One of the new keycaps I’ve made 😈

[digital gust]

You should have warned me sooner

[loud zephyr]

I think the biggest trap is buying different colourways for the same sculpture. If you can control the temptation then it should go a long way to ward off the FOMO.

Nice work on the new cap

[patent cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

[digital gust]

Thanks

[digital gust]

This is the way

[sage flicker]

are they planning on going lighter than L45? I bought the L50 springs when they were available so I'm using that now, but I think the L45 switches are not worth it for me bc the diff would be too small.

[sage flicker]

ok so did some digging in chat log, we need L30 and L25 switches pls! 😄

for awesome comfort

i hope L45 isn't the lightest, gateron has 35CN in their lineup, we should at least hit that mark!

[digital gust]

I’d like some lighter switches too

They are currently working on selling variety packs of springs I believe

[polar girder]

look at all these boomers with their heavy switches

probably use 80g mice too

yikes

lol jk

[bronze grove]

[polar girder]

yeah 45 def more comfortable than 60 for me. i don't desire for lighter but would be curious to try

l45's so good

ty wooting

[digital gust]

ill give you a handsome $2 tip if you let me buy that variety pack early

[shell crown]

[bronze grove]

[lilac island]

😂 i have the gateron ks20 which are 50cn i think bought them thinking they were the lekker 45s !!

not put them on yet kinda putting me off now knowing that i got the wrong ones

[loud zephyr]

I'm just waiting for switches that can heat/cool, as well as massage my fingers. Make it happen, Wooting

[exotic plaza]

lighter than l45 switches sounds abhorrent to me but to each their own i guess

also has anyone else had the experience of the 60he acting weird after modding it until you unplug and replug it once or twice?

i just had a very interesting issue where even on the lowest brightness settings it would slowly fade back up to the max brightness value over like 5 seconds

every time i clicked save it would go back down to zero and then go right back up

very weird

stopped happening after power cycling twice though

in previous modding sessions ive had stuff like certain keys not working, profiles not working, and all kinds of stuff

interesting behavior but it never seems to persist after a couple power cycles

[lilac island]

reset your keyboard

[exotic plaza]

like i said the issue did not persist after unplugging and replugging it

so as far as i know no need to do anything

i just thought it was interesting and was wondering if anyone else say anything similar

[lilac island]

reset as in in the settings

[loud zephyr]

What kind of mods, anything crazy outside of lubing; filming etc?

[glacial wind]

yeah I actually wonder if people will all like the 40 actuation switches on that upcoming razer - they're just racing towards 5 actuation at this point lol, it's becoming the new 'dpi' stat

[exotic plaza]

what i just did was putting a layer of mlv at the bottom and also a 0.75 mm sheet of pe foam on pcb

[glacial wind]

I do think people confuse bottom out force and starting actuation though, since they see cherrys have 45 or whatever starting actuation and don't realize it's bottom out is actually 60-65

[exotic plaza]

is there a reason to do so considering that there is no issues?

[lilac island]

wait you are telling us you have issues and now you saying you dont :S

[exotic plaza]

\

[lilac island]

save your current profiles and just reset it its nothing major just gives you a fresh start

[lilac island]

well then there is an issue as most of us do not have that problem :S

[exotic plaza]

nvm dont worry about it

i probably could have worded things better

[lilac island]

you asked the question we are just suggesting things to try help

[exotic plaza]

i appreciate the attempt

[lilac island]

can you send a screenshot of your settings ?

[exotic plaza]

?

brother i am telling you there is no issue at this moment that i need to be fixed

[lilac island]

lol

ok sorry brother !

[exotic plaza]

dont worry about it

i kind of hid the details within a large string of messages

[sudden lichen]

Damn I need to add some kind of grip tape to my board bottom it will not stop sliding across my desk, what works best

[velvet vine]

Anyone had much experience with the 2he?

[hollow saffron]

Sorry, are the springs not sold separately any longer, only the Linear45 switches?

[bronze grove]

Correct

We've retired the L50 loose spring bag in favour of an upcoming mix pack with several springs to choose from.

[hollow saffron]

Souds great, thank you!

[exotic plaza]

Jesus

1.7kg for metric people

The part they don’t talk about with modding is your keyboard becomes heavy enough to be a weapon

[shell crown]

Weight helps remove bad frequency soinds

[loud zephyr]

Presuming this is stock case, try placing an old mousepad underneath. If that works you could buy a 60% deskmat.

900x400 mousepads ftw imo

[shell crown]

Velcro

[exotic plaza]

How tf does burger mount not push the USB port out of place

I haven’t even done it and my USB port feels like it’s right on the edge of what is acceptable

[loud zephyr]

I haven't had any issues with the burger, and given the vertical compression, I can't imagine how it would push the USB port out

[exotic plaza]

hmm well i suppose ill find out tomorrow one way or another

tbh i think that the tofu60 redux just is a bit weird with the usb hole

[loud zephyr]

Definitely need a bit of patience to get a perfect alignment with the Tofu60 but it's doable

[exotic plaza]

HOW

[loud zephyr]

blind luck and a prayer

[exotic plaza]

it feels like if i tighten those screws anymore they'll start stripping

[loud zephyr]

and that's without the burger mount?

[exotic plaza]

yep

not to mention i plan to use nylon screws for burger mount

and if those break that is kind of a massive problem

[loud zephyr]

With the burger you should be able to lower it and align vertically, given the padding that's added beneath the PCB

[exotic plaza]

what do you mean?

it looks like its aligned vertically

well nvm

wrong direction

i suppose its aligned horizontally not vertically

still though idk how adding a rubber spacer will lower it

[loud zephyr]

I've confused myself, sorry, burger is going to make it worse. The gold screw-in standoffs not sitting flat in the case, is the only thing I can think of that's causing the misalignment.

[lilac island]

yeah i dont use the gold standoff in the centre just use to one next to the spacebar for the redux case

[exotic plaza]

hmm maybe ill look into that

well either way ill find out tomorrow

[lilac island]

yep mine lines up with burger mount, its just that the screw closest to the USB C port will need to be screwed all the way or until you see it line up, the others can sit loosely

[lilac island]

hmm mine only weight 1.57kg and i have the tofu case with the brass weight, is that your setup too ?

[fair mountain]

Is there any reason why the lekker switch is not a box stem?

[bronze grove]

Oh god. It's been years since that decision.

I'm sure Calder goes into it in some older blogs. The first prototype was box.

[weary tree]

Wait that not how its supposed to look

Did you try just placing it without screws?

Ive tried burger mount and it fitted fine its just a little harder to fit into the holes

Im currently gummy mounting it so no screws needed

Just addes some extra pads on screw holes and the poles on the side of the case to make it not sink

The same pads that comes included with the case

[stray tiger]

What case foam are you using?

[sleek wagon]

Anybody use pe switch pads over the foam mod?

[vernal grove]

hey, i actually make stacked acrylic cases but i reckon the shipping would prolly cost more than the case itself lol

[polar girder]

Nah fuck a HE switch pad IMO

[sage flicker]

They said no L30s in the variety pack, so L45 might be lightest. They may do L40, who knows. Boo!

[bronze grove]

Tried some 20g today. That was a weird experience. On low profile keycaps at that.

[sage flicker]

!!. Please super light switches!! I think you guys should go for extremes for customers. Super light and very heavy, just so people know if they like it. I think the safe spots of 45-70 is a little boring.

ooo nice

some people have small hands/lighter fingers so it doesn't bother them (like myself).

other people have giant trunks so they might want heavier.

[untold wigeon]

60*

[sage flicker]

well, i'm assuming variety pack is going over 60, so i safely guess 70 lol

[polar girder]

Hell yeah lol

On a flat aluminum case

I actually love that lol

Now I’m obsessed

[lilac island]

for a more thocky space bar would you guys not put foam under it? reason i ask is because im using the tofu 60 case with the stock foam and the foam doesnt reach all the way down to the bottom so half the keys on my bottom row doesn have foam between the pcb and the case

[marble shuttle]

https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/1005005455742097.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.77d4406aN3XrMg&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2tur I saw this spacebar on aliexpress you can check them if you want really interesting product

[polar girder]

That’s a good point. Can’t wait for my poly fill to show up

[lilac island]

yeah it be interesting to see how your sound

[shell crown]

nUmphy is great

[polar girder]

Yeah I’ll play around with some stuff once it shows up

Still might keep the little stock foam insert in the brass weight cutout spot (since I didn’t get the brass)

Redux vs stock vs poly

Maybe even mix and match

Doubt that would be best tho

Should be here tomorrow

[untold wigeon]

I muted mine with foam because it sounded weird

[quiet bay]

official website is cheaper

[polar girder]

That’s interesting. Nice

Oh damn

[marble shuttle]

might be but they dont ship my country

and chery black has 1 stock on their website

[polar girder]

I just bought it

[marble shuttle]

lol

🫡

[manic plume]

Not the best but looks good to me

[polar girder]

Nice. 😎

[lilac island]

actually looks cool can we get a sound test ?

do you guys have to relube your stabs each time you take off the key cap ?

it seems like each time i take the keycaps off it strats to rattle ever so slightly and i then have to re lube, or maybe ive not put enough lube on in the first place

[polar girder]

Have not lubed my stabs yet

[lilac island]

stock lube is good but on mine , i decided to re lube them and they feel and sound so much better

[lilac island]

thats looks boos !

[real island]

Peciate it

[polar girder]

I’ll lube and grease them if/when I get PC plate

And switches

[lilac island]

i like the keycaps, i have a cycle 7 pre ordered on group buy and looking for a pastel theme keycaps set, what set is that you have?

[polar girder]

Might just get the module tho so will see.

[lilac island]

yep switches are next on my list but i need to find the time first haha

[polar girder]

Yeah the new lube job is hella better than my old one so I’m happy for now

[real island]

Idk i got this one chick who found them on esty and i actually was feeling them so i bought it and they feel n sound nice only thing i gotta do to my keyboard is lube the switches but imma buy a lube station thing to hold everything

[polar girder]

Nice

Yeah I think I’m just going to do one by one

[lilac island]

the lubing station does look good through, which one are you getting @real island ?

ive already blown far too much money on this hobby so why not more !! xD

[real island]

I got no clue tbh i want something actually useful not just expensive but like useful

[quiet bay]

I can hear the sound of the steel plate 😔

[polar girder]

Always and forever

🤪

[shell crown]

Steel plate so bad n

ngl

But FR4 only if you got a good price

[crimson sky]

already ordered a replacement steel one

[fluid ravine]

id have to take them out before i do any mods or opening up the keeb
cus once i do it just rattles

[polar girder]

Yo I might be in too deep

I just realized I bought a space bar online

☠️

[weary tree]

You havent lubed your stabs yet, you good

[serene phoenix]

Why wouldn't you unfuck your stabs?

[sleek wagon]

Divinikey is insane with shipping times jesus

[shell crown]

Lolz

[gaunt linden]

Does anyone know if kineticlabs seal keycaps set (cherry mx profile) fit the wooting 60he?

[polar girder]

Why not

[exotic plaza]

Tried swapping it out for mlv which I thought might be a bit thick but the USB port is in the same position as it was with the stock foam on the redux

[exotic plaza]

Pretty much, mine was the same until I added a thick piece of mlv

My burger mount o rings are supposed to be shipped in the next few hours so we’ll see if I can make it work

It was too high even with no screws, foam, or anything else

I do really like the sound of the mlv though

[exotic plaza]

pretty much the same except mods added a bit of weight

[neat path]

where did you get those? I made my own from cut silicon pads, it worked but i'd like to try real ones

[stray tiger]

Stock wooting foam or stock redux foam?. I'll be out of cell service for the rest of the weekend but if you used the stock wooting foam and didn't separate the top layer of the foam, it's likely too thick and pushing up on the PCB and that might be why your USB isn't quite low enough. Also I have seen 2 people now post about their redux not being perfectly. The case or something is slightly warped and that might also cause your PCB not to sit right.

[pale aspen]

anyone here have tofu redux in black color?

is it fingerprint magnet?

[lilac island]

yeah i have it is

[stoic seal]

Do the l45s have the cherry profile interference?

[pale aspen]

is it easy to clean? or need to wipe real hard

[lilac island]

yeah damp cloth will do

[pale aspen]

i assume black klippe t would have the same issue

anodize

[exotic plaza]

stock redux foam

also has anyone tried using the nylon screws to attach the plate to the pcb?

im wondering if i should go ahead and swap those screws as well

[bright spruce]

do we have any info on the release date for the bare pcb?

[velvet egret]

They said on the livestream end of october pre-order will go up

[bright spruce]

ye I just saw it in the other channel

[exotic plaza]

do we have any estimates for cost?

[bronze grove]

Expect similar price as a 60HE once you add switches.

[exotic plaza]

just switches or switches + keycaps and stuff

[lilac island]

has anyone lube the l60 switches, and does it make a diff ?

as they come pre lubed

[marble shuttle]

ofcourse it has diffs

[marsh juniper]

Methinks, the act of anointing the L60 switches with a liberal amount of lubrication hath wrought a transformative influence upon them. It hath hushed their clamor and granted a velvety ease to the press, much like the gentle whisper of a breeze through the ancient trees of Lothlórien.

[marble shuttle]

more smooth more playable

[lilac island]

haha !! so i guess worth lubing then with 205 yeahj ?

[marble shuttle]

my engilish grammar left the chat

[marsh juniper]

In the chronicles of my own experience, I verily declare that the endeavor of anointing it with the sacred 205 G0 lubricant was indeed a venture of worth.

[polar girder]

tldr; hand lube = worth

[edgy thicket]

really doubt that, drunkdeer has a metal plate minus the stem wobble and it has so much less "plastic" noise

[edgy thicket]

bro it's already smooth as shit

[crimson sky]

the 75?

[edgy thicket]

lubing won't make a graph like this better 😹

[edgy thicket]

yea

[crimson sky]

yea bigger case

will sound much lower pitched etc

also I think it is an alu plate

not steel

[edgy thicket]

well it's aluminum

yea

[crimson sky]

yea alu sounds completely different from steel

[edgy thicket]

but modded drunkdeers have zero plasticy sound whilst almost every wooting mod i've found still sounds pretty mediocre

[crimson sky]

how many wootings with other plates have you heard

[edgy thicket]

zero

you can hear it though

[edgy thicket]

regardless i'd be surprised if the switch wobble made zero noise

[crimson sky]

stem wobble doesn't

top housing does

[edgy thicket]

why would stem wobble not

[crimson sky]

because it doesn't really happen much while pressing

yea sure you will angle it one way

but when pressing on it will just stay that way

or shift in one way

housing wobble is noisy cause you stem will slam against the top housing

which will then rattle around

[edgy thicket]

when you press it, the stem will align with the rails but that aligning can make a noise

also it does the same thing when it returns

[crimson sky]

why would it make a noise

[edgy thicket]

cause it's plastic banging on plastic

[crimson sky]

like I said

happens in one direction

once

while pressing

you don't hear that

same with realigning

[edgy thicket]

you don't hear any linear when you're pressing

[crimson sky]

?????

[edgy thicket]

unless it's a clicky switch

[crimson sky]

wtf are you on about

[polar girder]

https://youtube.com/shorts/KiHyKjPoMKU?si=mng2S_OYpblZnlWT

akko HE

gross

[edgy thicket]

there's no noise when you type on the 60he

[polar girder]

lol

[edgy thicket]

there's only bottom out

[crimson sky]

so this is only bottom out?

[polar girder]

well not only

but the loud deep noise you hear, i'm pretty sure is

he's slamming that g down for bottom out sound

[edgy thicket]

point is that when ur pressing it makes no noise, only when you return or bottom out

that's all the noise

in a linear switch

[polar girder]

yeah just move your switch up and down slowly

you hear nothing

[crimson sky]

yea and loose housings come into play on top out

[polar girder]

until you tap it

[crimson sky]

recording of it is absolutely horrible

[edgy thicket]

it will shift in the direction you pressed it in and that shift probably makes noise

[crimson sky]

"probably"

[edgy thicket]

and the same shift happens when the switch returns

i can't isolate the sound

maybe i could but idk how

[crimson sky]

no you can't

cause if you press offcenter to tilt it

you just slide it down at an angle

doesn't matter

[edgy thicket]

no pressing down, just the stem aligning

[crimson sky]

do you use your keyboard like that

[edgy thicket]

yes i press my finger at an angle

the keyboard is staggered

[crimson sky]

in actual use

[edgy thicket]

i don't press straight up and down

[crimson sky]

you will just feather your finger on it

[edgy thicket]

it's very clear here

[crimson sky]

that is not during use though

[edgy thicket]

the same thing is happening when you type

nobody types straight up and down

that clack is the switch aligning with the rail

[crimson sky]

that is a different thing though

[edgy thicket]

it will just happen at a lesser extent

cause people also don't type by pressing the corner

[polar girder]

I mean there’s situations where I can do things to make a displeasing sound or feeling. And I tweak out about it. But then I use it and I forget about it

[quiet bay]

Holy god that sounds so hollow

[polar girder]

Hollow, thin and plastic lol

[exotic plaza]

Hmm

[lilac island]

is that with burger mount ?

[exotic plaza]

yes

by some miracle it still works

typing on it rn

[lilac island]

did you tighten the screw thats nearest to the usb all the way down ?

[exotic plaza]

i tried to quite a bit

[lilac island]

hmmm can you linke the size of the o rings you used ?

mine works fine i will send photo in a few mins

[exotic plaza]

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Silicone-Rings-Diameter-Gasket/dp/B082SV1LYG/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2LFU2LXDTQQ8N&keywords=uxcell%2BSilicone%2BO-Rings%2C%2B4.5mm%2BOD%2B1.5mm%2BID%2B1.5mm&qid=1694602909&sprefix=%2Caps%2C884&sr=8-3&th=1

oh wait apparently i got the 4x1.0x1.5 variant instead

[lilac island]

no thats right i have the same

i got these https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B082SV5BT7?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

[exotic plaza]

yeah so they should be the same height

[lilac island]

alternatively the top two screws you could just do half burger mount i doubt it will make much of a siff

[exotic plaza]

i think i didn't tighten that screw enough

[lilac island]

did you get longer screws as well ?

[exotic plaza]

i did but i clipped and sanded them down to size

[lilac island]

the stock screws and the wooting screws wont work as they are too short

[exotic plaza]

i got ones that were way too long and cut them to the right size

they should be perfect as far as size goes

[lilac island]

lol ok so not the screw problem then

hmm thast strange how much foam do you have in ?

[exotic plaza]

im a little hesitant to tighten that screw too much as a broken nylon screw could be a massive issue

[lilac island]

if you sued the wooting foam you need to pull off the smaller piece

[exotic plaza]

i have a thick layer of mlv that is definitely not helping

[lilac island]

oh dang nylon screws i got metal ones

yeah thats might be the problem try with the redux foam or one piece of wooting foam see how that loos

you might not like the feel and sounds though

[exotic plaza]

welp the head of that screw is stripping before it tightens enough

whatever it works im just gonna leave it

it holds on to that usb c cable a bit tight

lol

pro tip: misalign your keyboard to hold on to the usb cable tighter

[lilac island]

haha lets get a sound test then !!

[exotic plaza]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm maybew

my spacebar is a bit messed up at the moment

[lilac island]

i sent mine a few days ago not sure if you where here

yeah i had to lube my space bar a few times tbh

[exotic plaza]

yeah there is a lot of stab tuning and stuff that i need to do

a lot of them are rattling

[lilac island]

yeah more lube and bandaid mod might help !

[exotic plaza]

absolutely

ive got them planned

also i cant wait for that pc plate

[lilac island]

yeah ! i still have the stock place and it already sounds really nice to me im going to invest in the module with pc plate once that releases

[fair mountain]

so cool! i would buy this
do you have any discount code?

[lilac island]

dang that cablke is £107 !

fully works with the wooting 100% rgb p pressume

[untold wigeon]

It’s already out

[untold wigeon]

Show pic of whole keyboard

[loud zephyr]

beige keycap always hit hard

[lilac island]

for the stock stabs do we have to clip them ?

[loud zephyr]

For the stock wooting? They pretty much just slide into place with little to no force

[lilac island]

yeah i see the 2 prongs that can be clipped but they are not raised like normal cherry ones so was just wondering

[loud zephyr]

Ahh yeah, Wooting's are flat. When it comes to stabs I pretty much stick to Cherry; cheap and reliable. I'll probably use them for the Module

[fair mountain]

But it's the best cable I've ever seen so i need to buy it 😃

[finite gate]

space cables are better

https://spaceholdings.net/collections/cables

[fair mountain]

which one?

[finite gate]

all of them

they got everything

[fair mountain]

those are good, but I like iem braided cable

[finite gate]

they have braided cables iirc

mochis cables also has some

[loud zephyr]

The only thing I dislike about Space Cables is the heatshrink used on the USB connector. Solid plastic is cleaner imo

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/1383/3071/files/CB3-CTC-PHG-BKGY1_1.jpg?v=1692707329

[weary tree]

Try switch tape mod. Reduces top out sound

[edgy thicket]

why?

[untold wigeon]

Just want to see it

[edgy thicket]

uh okay

just wooting 60he with blank keycaps

same everything else

that's my endgame but i'm not tryna spend 50 bucks on a case

😭

[exotic plaza]

well yeah but they aren't shipping just yet

[polar girder]

yeah i think cuz no foam under the space bar (stock 60he foam in redux) space bar little vocal

will try again with that poly fill tomorrow or monday

[fluid ravine]

ok this is a guess but were you spamming the same keys and pressing the spacebar at a random time

[polar girder]

haha i wasn't spamming same keys

[fluid ravine]

lol

[polar girder]

but yeah just unplugged it

was moving my fingers around tho lol

[fluid ravine]

lol

[polar girder]

lol i like it

sorry to disappoint you

i mean its not like horrible

it's not great

but it's better than it was

[fluid ravine]

ok personally i think it sounds worst than stock "stock"

[polar girder]

oh ok. i've disappointed everyone

haha what about this

my mic was right up against the keeb first time

[quiet bay]

Chatter

[fluid ravine]

hmMmMmMmm

still dissapointed

you didnt do any mods beside switching case right?

[polar girder]

l45's

aftermarket keycaps

but yeah

haven't lubed anything

[fluid ravine]

i will forgive you just a tiny bit

[polar girder]

just stock stuff

i'm noob

this is my first ever custom

[quiet bay]

Same

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[fluid ravine]

did you order stuff?
are you waiting for them?

[polar girder]

I have lube kit

but figured i'd do that when I swap plate

and lube stabs

[fluid ravine]

no burger mount?

[polar girder]

no i don't buy that stuff yet

[fluid ravine]

y not

[polar girder]

I will do that too

cuz will when switch pc plate

waiting for module pricing

lolol

[fluid ravine]

oh

i see

you have the patience

[polar girder]

I might try to keep this stock 60he and sell

if module pricing is right

[fluid ravine]

oh shi

[polar girder]

if it's wrong, i keep this pcb and then mod and buy PC plate

[quiet bay]

a little bit less than full built if including switches

[fluid ravine]

watch that shit bouta be like 50

[polar girder]

bruh it might be like $100 low key

[quiet bay]

nah

Most likely like 110-120

[polar girder]

Yeah at this point I have everything to make an entire second keyboard lol

and screw in stabs are attractive

so yeah if module pricing is right, then i'll buy, and burger mount and lube everything

then hopefully i will earn everyones respect

and then buy the tirade suggested sexy ass $130 cable

and then leave this discord and sail off in to the sunset

[fluid ravine]

NAH

NOPE

[polar girder]

[fluid ravine]

NO CHANCE

NO SWITCHES?

110???

COST ALMOST THE ALUMAZE??

LMAO

NO CHANCE

[polar girder]

pcb and plate with foam and cord

and stabs

[quiet bay]

70 pack = 40 dollars

110 to 120 + 40 = 150 to 160

[polar girder]

DZ60 PCB is $55 fwiw

[fluid ravine]

No the module itself

[polar girder]

for hot swap 60% pcb

[quiet bay]

Not Hall effect

[polar girder]

i know

i said FWIW

not "as direct comparison"

[quiet bay]

ah ok

[polar girder]

[quiet bay]

They did say that price wouldn't be much cheaper if you bought switches

[polar girder]

i just don't know regular pcb costs

and keycaps tho

and a case tho

[quiet bay]

Well it def is the most expensive part

[polar girder]

yeah i get it

[fluid ravine]

$20 for plate and the 2 pcb foam

im betting the pcb cost like 50

so ig 70

idk

iso users?

[quiet bay]

If only I known about wooting around now

I would've saved so much more money

[fluid ravine]

they havent figure out how to make pc plate for iso

[polar girder]

I don't think iso is the problem

theyve said that's later

[quiet bay]

iso layout ugly

[fluid ravine]

i agree

but like im just sayin that iso is prob the reason why the module is not release yet

thats my guess

sooo yeah
fuck iso

[quiet bay]

Like come on how are you going to make the enter key big and then minimize the left shift key

[polar girder]

ay yoooo

[quiet bay]

You'd have to stretch your pinky more

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

wait- yo

they cookin

[polar girder]

this 3 years old

they gave up

[quiet bay]

old

yeah

[fluid ravine]

NAHHH

THEY WAS COOKING

[polar girder]

they stopped cooking bro

[fluid ravine]

:<

i see

they want their customers to starve

[quiet bay]

You know what's starving?

My wallet

man I want the zoompad just to have the zoompad

if it looks cool I want it

anddddd most of the colors are already gone

[polar girder]

damn bro

all the old blogs dead

RIP

[quiet bay]

I want wooting to grow more

we need competition

good for consumers

[polar girder]

right

yeah people talking up these highgrounds

i don't buy it tho lol

[fluid ravine]

ew highgrounds

[quiet bay]

no one gives a shit about higrounds

[fluid ravine]

suck asss

so asss

SUPAAAAAA ASSSSS

[polar girder]

lol ok ty

[quiet bay]

xd

[polar girder]

even current wooting blog posts dead

[quiet bay]

no offense to you

[polar girder]

past current page

lol it's fine

i told them theyre ffoolish

idc about highgrounds lol

[fluid ravine]

whoever made highground keebs
man your brain is smoother than the smoothest thing on earth

whoever made those graphic switches
you're so totally smart

[polar girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF0oprJFkI8

this is the video where they talk about the swap away from the box stem

@ 24minutes

they tossed the box when they went to gateron cuz gateron already had the magnet switch production

cuz the old factory couldn't make the housing hotswappable compatible like they needed

yeah full existing gateron switch design they just changed aesthetics and spring.

so yeah the PCB is the wooting IP

the switches are full gateron.

yeah like for there ever to be a tactile HE for wooting, it would have to be gateron caring to make it lol

old ones used to have two holes in the bottom housing too

new ones are less loud and more bassy

so we definitely have an improved switch from the old box stem design lol

damn original goal of lekker edition was to be able to fund the custom lekker switch

but they realized they're not good at producing switches, so they left that part to gateron

... for now

they been working on lekker edition for like 5 years now

that's crazy

I didn't realize analog input was such a top priority

[quiet bay]

Because analog better for gaming

[polar girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMRJskcfNM

bruh

i'm clueless

lol fk me

i know nothing about this analog input

[quiet bay]

They’re good with being inventive atleast

[polar girder]

time to mod my wootility

[quiet bay]

Nice support team too

[polar girder]

right

yeah it's killer company

i just learned so much lol

and now i need to learn about analog hehe

[quiet bay]

I only got into keyboards because my membrane kb wasnt cutting it

crap did not feel good

[polar girder]

damn no tachyon makes my lights brighter too

☠️

[sacred jay]

well making switches is tough, i've heard of companies' products going to shit after they make their own switches

[sacred jay]

50 is on the cheap side

[glacial wind]

Yeah there’s been a lot of attempts at making switches and most of the times they’ve had issues down the line

[velvet vine]

Anyone done much modding with the 2HE?

[finite gate]

gl finding anything good under 150 lol

[shell crown]

Other than keycaps I douvt

It's not made for moddinz

[velvet vine]

Figured as much, Ive never dabbled in modding a keyboard. Was hoping there might have been the odd case out there for them

[shell crown]

Only case for 2HE is custom one

[hidden stratus]

anyone tried PC plate on wooting60he ? how does it sound like

[velvet vine]

Is there a file available for that?

[lilac island]

has

anyone compiled a list of cable that work 100% on the 60he ?

[normal schooner]

no

[lilac island]

well i think i might have to do one then

[glacial wind]

that list is going to be quite long

[shell crown]

I think there might be on https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-two-he

[velvet vine]

Thanks

I assume theres slim chance of wooting releasing one?

[austere creek]

we will almost certainly not release a custom 2he case

the reason being that it would only be usable by our customers and there is just a too small intersection between 2he customer and modding their keyboard

if the fullsize market would have a more standardized layout for case screws to the pcb like the 60% we could most likely do it but thats a pipe dream

[velvet vine]

Yeah thats cool

How much work is involved in the design process? Like making the file in the link above? A family member would be able to get one milled, but if I was to go down that route Id rather match the profile on the alumaze

[bronze grove]

You take measurements, you design and rethink the design cause you're working with a different material, you mill it and pray it works.

Rinse repeat until you have something functional. It could get expensive without a trained designer and miller.

[austere creek]

the main challenge you will have is the stand off and some of the thin ribbing

and that youre basically confined to the general case layout and angle

you could only really add more to the outside

[velvet vine]

Well, a professional designer is certainly something I'm not 🤣 Oh well, maybe one day

[edgy thicket]

there's an anodized aluminum case on aliexpress for 50 bucks

that's what i have my eyes on rn

it's really the only one i care about anyways cause for some reason every other 60% case is like 2 feet off the desk

[shell crown]

Wooden case would take about ummm 150-200€ I guess

[velvet vine]

To design or to design and make?

[wind cloak]

are there any plans for a pc with usb-c daughterboard? to fit more 60% cases?

[shell crown]

Design and make, simple wood one is 200€ or so

[shell crown]

PC with usbc daughterboard?

Wym

[velvet vine]

Ah fair enough, I hadnt looked into wood tbf

[shell crown]

It's easiest with wood as far as I know

[wind cloak]

jst-cable, to change the location of the port

[shell crown]

You can handchisel it if needed

[shell crown]

No, the port stays there always

Due to requiring rewiring as far as I know

[velvet vine]

Do you know of any reputable vendors?

[bronze grove]

There is not.

[wind cloak]

ok thx 🙂

[shell crown]

None, only custom made from custom keeb makers which would cost prolly thousands

I spent 100€ on one of my old cases for full sized keeb and I had all the tools alrwady

[hushed valley]

What difference does a different cable actually make if any

[thorny glade]

aesthetics.

only on extreme cases it impacts performance

[weary tree]

the wooting detacheable cables allows for 100% rgb and tachyon at same time

[hushed valley]

Tachyon?

[polar girder]

Tachyon Mode

[hushed valley]

Whats that lmao

[polar girder]

Lower input speed

Limits RGB effects

[fluid ravine]

PC plate is not even finish with production yet lmao

[neat path]

POM plate taylor made at SM kb ordered, i hope it will fit well

[fluid ravine]

it does fit

its made specifically for the wooting

[neat path]

i also took the mounting screw kit from KBDFans, i guess it's mandatory

[sleek wagon]

Anybody got recs for a lube station

[sand oasis]

your desk

[neat path]

your dirty deskmat you hide under the clean one

[sleek wagon]

I gotta stay organized or I'll lose some shit

[quiet bay]

go for a big one then

[sleek wagon]

was looking at the kbdfans one, holds 45 at a time

[quiet bay]

That's good

[sleek wagon]

It holds 35 it was false advertisement

[quiet bay]

I mean still big either way

[sleek wagon]

Yeah I'll probably get it either way, was looking at the whole glorious kit but all the reviews are about how the lube shows up exploded

[sleek wagon]

ima just use some bowls nvm

[sand oasis]

Yeh and a nice big work area and it’s plenty of space

[untold wigeon]

Get two

[mossy rover]

was able to get the lekker switches to sound nice

[fluid ravine]

mods?

sounds hella good

we have a recruit my bois

[polar girder]

Yeah what mods?

🤓

Underling here

[mossy rover]

tofu redux case, lubed and filmed switches, black pom plate, abs caps, pe foam, keebtape, tx stabs, gummy o ring mount

[quiet bay]

It's gotta be the pom plate (mostly)

[mossy rover]

that and the lubed switches

was able to get a nice sound without the chatter but just lubing and filming

no switch tape mod

[polar girder]

Lubed and filmed

Wow

[neat path]

did filming them changed the sound?

[lilac island]

what film and gummy o ring did you use ?

[mossy rover]

yeah if you use poron ones it cleans up the sound of the switches and makes them a bit deeper/muted

[mossy rover]

geon poron films and 30a bakeneko ring

[neat path]

thanks i felt the lekker a bit rattly, i just ordered gateron magnetic orange ones just to try out, i'll give a try to the poron ones then

[mossy rover]

yeah for sure

i tried the pc ones too from wuque studios but it makes the switch louder and the plastic sound is more emphasized

[sand oasis]

yeh i have the pc from wuque studios

it sounds better than stock but not as ncie as yours

[neat path]

just ordered black POM plate from SM kb yesterday, hoping for the best now 😄

[sand oasis]

have to pay 25 dollars shipping for geon films sadge

[mossy rover]

nice i ordered the plate in black cause i don't use rgb lmao

[sand oasis]

fucking brexit have to order 200 dollars worth of stuff for shipping

[neat path]

i just use white static low light through my cerakeys, i dont mind about RGB either

[mossy rover]

damn, maybe there are other poron films that aren't as expensive?

i think any poron could work as long as they don't have the rectangle cutout for the led

[sand oasis]

yeh ill have a look but pretty content with how mine sounds atm

[quiet bay]

ooh I didnt think about using poron films

Im using pc

[fluid ravine]

AYYYYY 30a

W

mines sound the same but more poppy

[lilac island]

and the films fit the lekker switches ok ?

for the gummy ring mod do you have to remove the foam between the switch and pcb ?

[sleek wagon]

no fitting issues with the geon films? bought tx films but if those bring that sound I have no problem losing 10 bucks lol

[mossy rover]

the geon films warp a little bit but they work fine

[mossy rover]

nah you can keep the plate foam on

[neat path]

By the way did you used the mounting screw kit from KBDFans for your POM plate?

"M2-3 Countersunk Flat Head screw kit"

[fluid ravine]

when having the gummy o'ring surrounding the module
the pcb foam will compress over time (only on the outside)
it should not create any problems

[sleek wagon]

might be a dumb question but can you do burger mount with the gummy o ring or would it not really make a difference

[fluid ravine]

no

if you do so then whats the point of having the gummy o'ring

[sleek wagon]

i have no idea thats why im asking

[fluid ravine]

the sound difference between the tray mount and gummy o'ring is that
the tray mount give out an unbalance sound while the gummy oring spread the sound evenly

[sleek wagon]

by tray mount you mean you burger mount im assuming

[fluid ravine]

tray mount as in screwing the module down to the case

so yes burger mount included

[sleek wagon]

with the gummy o ring you dont screw it down?

[fluid ravine]

no its friction fit

[sleek wagon]

that sounds easier

might do that instead of burger mount then

[fluid ravine]

normal gummy mount keyboards sit on top of a half circle edge block with the pcb having cut outs for the oring to sit on
this gives a more softer and bouncier typing feel
but if you use gummy o'ring for a tray mount type keeb then all you do is have the module friction fit in the case, it doesnt really bounce since there's not cutouts on the pcb and nothing for the oring to sit on sooooo

[sleek wagon]

alright last question, what does have the module friction fit in the case mean? just drop it in the case no?

[neat path]

they have to fit tight together

[fluid ravine]

May you clarify the question
I don't understand

[sleek wagon]

i dont think i understand either lmfao

ill just link the case im gonna use

[fluid ravine]

You mean "How does friction mount work?"

[sleek wagon]

i guess yeah

[fluid ravine]

or What does friction mount mean?

[sleek wagon]

i mean how do you do it, just put the module into the case without screwing anything in?

[fluid ravine]

or "How do you friction mount?"

[sleek wagon]

and just hope they fit snug together?

the case and the module im talking about

im just gonna stick to burger mount since i understand whats going on there

[fluid ravine]

You take the gummy o'ring and wrap it around the module
You slide the top side module into the case while having the bottom out
you press in or take a card and slide the oring in to have the module fit snug into the case
after all this it shouldnt fall out

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uohbf2UH6FY&t=112s

If the wooting pcb has cutout for oring mount then we would have hella of a good bounce

[mossy rover]

yea i did

[neat path]

thx i ordered it too with gateron magnetic orange set, may be the pom stem will be less lose on them

[sleek wagon]

That screw kit is just to mount the plate to the pcb right? You would still use the regular screws to mount the module to the case?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[sleek wagon]

gonna do the same black Pom plate instead of the pc plate then

[lilac island]

i have the silicone wrist rest and can see my hand mark where i place my hands for WASD 😦

[polar girder]

Dirty, heavy or pressure?

That’s crazy lol

[lilac island]

i think the oils from my hand left the mark cant even wash it off now

[gaunt linden]

Is there a switch film that fit the Wooting switches ?

Also where Can i buy gummy o rings for burguer mount ?

[sleek wagon]

Anybody got a good black on the outside grey on the inside key cap set by chance

Having a hard time finding anything good

[sleek wagon]

like this

not spending 35 on them from kraken tho cause i do not trust them

[polar girder]

Just buy two sets

Ez

[sleek wagon]

i could probably find something on aliexpress

or maybe a solid black side print set

hmmmmmm

[gaunt linden]

Where Can i buy o rings for burger mount, and also what switch films fit the Wooting switches ?

Pls

[neat path]

can't say for o-rings but Geo poron films seems ok

[cyan adder]

YO

Is that normal that my spacebar make a metal noise

only spacebar switches

[weary tree]

That is called ticking

Most probably because of the stabilisers

Try holee mod or something similar for a temporary fix

Its literally my worst nightmare

[cyan adder]

Yeah my keyboard sounds very good I lubed all the switches + specebar stabilizers (others ones comes very well lubed as stock so I just didn’t touch it), the only bad thing is the space bar.. my Keycap is flat, lubbed the wire + the housing .. idk

It’s like the same sound as a spring not lubed but it is lubed actually

[loud zephyr]

It's the steel plate causing the metallic ping/resonance

[cyan adder]

So it’s not my fault right

[quiet bay]

I need an update on that pc plate cause of this 😩

[weary tree]

My stabs lubed still ticks