🔧│keyboard_modding

[junior glen]

I was wondering if anyone actually got the color

and can share the RGB value

[untold wigeon]

Try this

[junior glen]

this aint even a value

[normal schooner]

forte

[untold wigeon]

It should take hex codes no?

[junior glen]

yeah

[normal schooner]

the reason you get a slightly yellow is

is be cause of your neighbours rgb

it really is white

[junior glen]

yes but I have all my keys white

I just want white light on my keyboard

[untold wigeon]

[junior glen]

and I get this blue-ish green-ish light

[untold wigeon]

Trial and error I guess

[normal schooner]

try to make it slightly more grey

[untold wigeon]

Same thing happened to me

[junior glen]

I mean, then whats the point of me asking

[normal schooner]

242, 243, 245

try this

[junior glen]

still blue

[normal schooner]

it works for me

[tall hollow]

try FFF3B7

thats what I use

[junior glen]

wait, whats your brightness

[normal schooner]

100%

[junior glen]

can I even have that with tach mode on

[normal schooner]

yes you can

[tall hollow]

you can

[normal schooner]

but no rgb effe cts

[tall hollow]

and it works really well

[normal schooner]

[junior glen]

I just tried it, its slightly pink

[junior glen]

too yellowish with 100%

its almost like night light

[normal schooner]

forte

it might also be the color of your case

it reflects

[tall hollow]

E6FFB7

[junior glen]

I think yours was much closer to white than ducky's

[tall hollow]

I have different keycaps lol

[junior glen]

ah makes sense

[normal schooner]

try a more grey is color

my white is also a bit purple cuz I have a purple case

but that white is working

[junior glen]

very close, still a bit yellow, I tuned it bit more to 230 240 199

I wish I can capture this with my phone

[tall hollow]

tint it a little less.

[gritty turtle]

pretty sure 255 255 255 is the closest to white you can get

im pretty sure its impossible for rgb to product a pure white but i may be wrong

[pliant mesa]

Kind of changed my mind on an aluminum case and now I'm looking into a resin case.

Would anyone happen to know if this one is compatible? - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802805908488.html

[spare igloo]

swapping stabs make a noticeable difference? stock sounds good but just wondering if aftermarket stabs will be worth purchasing

[dreamy tundra]

TBH plate mount stabs are all kinda so-so, the stock gaterons are fine

[tall hollow]

yeah

[static tendon]

@upbeat delta scrolling along I noticed you found a pom plate that fit the wooting 60he, any chance you have the link to that plate? Happen to know if they carry a polycarbonate plate as well?

[quick girder]

If someone were enough of a madlad, would it be possible to get the fullsize wooting and saw off the numpad so it could fit in a TKL case? It would probably be gasket mounted to avoid compatibility issues with standoffs. I know theoretically it's possible in certain cases depending on the layout of the circuitry and where the chips are

[eternal sand]

Do regular cherry/gateron films work on the lekker housings?

[stray tiger]

@eternal sand no

@quick girder no

[fair mountain]

Should I wash the stabilizer clean when I re-lube and holee mod the stabilizer?

[stray tiger]

@static tendon there are no stock aftermarket plates that fit the wooting. All have to be modded

@fair mountain that depends on what issues you're having with the stabilizers

[static tendon]

I see. In order to fit the plate it just needs to be gh60/plate mount stabs compatible correct?

[stray tiger]

That's not the issue, you need to modify the plate to include holes for the standoffs that keep the plate from flexing into the PCB and provide stability. The wooting PCB and plate are mounted to each other.

[fair mountain]

I would like to make the 2u stabilizer sound better.

[stray tiger]

Just start by relubing, no need to clean the old off first

[fair mountain]

@stray tiger ok thank you very much!

[charred tangle]

Bar of soap

[quick girder]

is there a reason why it isnt possible though? i dont know what the pcb looks like and theres no plans of a tkl or 75% wooting that im aware of

[left iron]

Anyone have recommendations for black blank keycaps on the 60he

[quick girder]

do you have a profile in mind? cherry, oem, sa, xda?

[left iron]

cherry if possible

[quick girder]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832563847867.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.685a4c18ilL1hQ&algo_pvid=1364eb78-1da8-4ac7-ae21-2297ce0d11fa&algo_exp_id=1364eb78-1da8-4ac7-ae21-2297ce0d11fa-0&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!33.0!29.7!!!!!%40212279b716811834103184024d06c1!12000018829371789!sea!US!2419305329&curPageLogUid=xxNJ3k9sfj4c @left iron just remember to make sure the switches are flipped so no interference

[left iron]

thank you

got it

[quick girder]

no problem

[stray tiger]

No need to flip your switches for 99% of cherry keycaps out there.

[sleek cove]

Managed to find tofu 60 gray aluminum case for around $50 on ebay nice 🙂 used but seems nice gonna be used to mod the Wooting that arrives

[upbeat delta]

Plate file was edited by me, there's no one offering 60he compatible plates at this stage. the plate file i made however doesn't exactly care what material you cut it out from, so if you want it you can dm me :)

I've only made a plate for ISO yet, but adapting to Ansi isn't very hard, I just need to find half an hour in the evening

[static tendon]

Mmmm, alright good to know. I’ll keep that in mind. I really dislike steel plates. Very harsh bottom out experience. But I understand wootings reasoning for it. Otherwise I’d go for a aluminum plate. I’ve seen vendors sell plate mount ones. I’ve even owned one before

[upbeat delta]

There is a point to the steel plate, it offers no flex and a very rigid experience

[static tendon]

Mine was a ANSI gh60, plate mount stabs compatible aluminum plate

[upbeat delta]

My pom plate flexes a fair amount which theoretically could be an issue but seems to work okay with me

[upbeat delta]

Stock gh60 plates don't work with 60he

[static tendon]

Right. I can see aluminum plate working as well. I’m sure it could potentially interfere with 0.1mm actuation regardless I’d prob have higher actuation to avoid this issue entirely

[static tendon]

Any particular reason to this?

[upbeat delta]

60he needs standoffs on the plate

To fix it to the PCB

[static tendon]

Oh that’s fine, id probably make some 3D printed stand offs

[upbeat delta]

Those holes are not included with gh60 plates, so either you'll have to drill them yourself and (countersink them) or custom plate from scratch with holes included

[static tendon]

I’d likely drill into the plate to make it work. Otherwise I’m sure wooting will eventually release batches of these for the keyboard. I don’t see a reason for the aluminum plates causing issues with the lekkar switches. All speculation though

Do we have any potential releases of new plates at the moment? I think there was recently an announcement of possible aluminum case releases for the wooting 60HE which I’m excited to see.

[upbeat delta]

I don't see Alu being an issue. Most (common) metals should be stiff enough, maybe magnesium, but even that should work fine

I don't think Wooting are gonna release different plates honestly, steel is a pretty good bet, doesn't flex, doesn't ping too badly, I doubt they'd choose something else

Let's all just hit spam 🙏🏻

[balmy minnow]

qmx clips should arrive in about an hour or two

i hope so anyway. dpd works in magical ways in germany

they like to ring the bell and then just go "ok lmfao bye" 5 seconds later

[bronze grove]

Here they just don't ring. And then I have to spend two hours waiting for a chat queue to end, so I can serve them with proof from my doorcam.

Happened four times in over a few months. Until finally someone got fired, because it was starting to make media headlines nationally from more and more people getting screwed by postal.

[balmy minnow]

oh dear. yeah it's not that bad with dpd here thankfully

[atomic bloom]

how are people from UK or EU buying the klippe t case from mekanisk when there's a minimum of 199usd needed to get it shipped? just order extra???

[balmy minnow]

i have good and bad news

the good: the qmx clips arrived
the bad: they don't clip onto wooting switches properly
the ugly: also very noticeably reduces the travel distance

i'll probably find use for them with other switches but for wooting boards they are no help

maybe it's a futile effort and i should learn to appreciate the upstroke noise. lmao

[glacial wind]

Probably adding carrying case and such to order

[shell geode]

Are you referring to the spring ping? When the switch is let go after actuation and the stem comes back up and hits the top housing?

[balmy minnow]

no. i mean the actual noise of the stem colliding with the top housing

[shell geode]

Ohh forget I mentioned the spring ping, but I've also been trying to reduce the clack between the stem and top housing

@balmy minnow I tried tape, and it helps

[balmy minnow]

yeah this i've attempted too but it's incredibly annoying to do

[shell geode]

I agree with you, sucks there's not a mod that takes less time

[river reef]

In NZ thats normal, and nobody gets fired cos working at nzpost is considered govt job

[bronze grove]

Oof

[river reef]

Only time someone get fired is instead of delivering they just went home and opened all the parcels for a whole month lmao

[void abyss]

Is it worth swapping the foam with something "better"? I like the standard case and want to get the best out of it 🙂

[somber scroll]

AFAIK the stock foam is considered to be quite good already

[void abyss]

Alright thanks

[hot mountain]

My beginners effort to my first modded keyboard.

Lubed switches,
Tape Mod,
Case swap to PSD60 (burger mounted PCB),
Sound damper in space bar (due to hollow sound)

Gonna upgrade the keycaps too some high quality ones, these puddings just ain't it, but they look cool AF with the Wootings Jelly RGB effect. 👌

[haughty delta]

Anyone know a good place to get screws like the ones that come with the board (for attaching the PCB to the plate) that are slightly longer?

I can't seem to squish two of the o-rings I got onto the default screws to get a good burger mount

[bronze grove]

The ones we use are M2x5mm I believe. So you'd have to look for 6-7mm depending on your o-rings.

US? EU? Asia? Oceania? You can usually find them in small electronics and widget stores that sells capacitors and whatnot. Or amazon/aliexpress.

[haughty delta]

Oh that's perfect, knowing the type of screw helps a lot

I'm in US, I went to a general hardware store earlier but they didn't have anything that small, and we don't have any specialty electronics stores near me anymore

This looks right!

[sleek grove]

What sound dampener did you use for the space bar?

[vast nacelle]

These are countersunk FYI. Regular panhead screws are what the stock screws are. These could work but the o-rings might pop off.

[haughty delta]

Ooo okay, I'll keep that in mind. The o-rings I have are pretty tiny, so I think it should be okay. But I will order a different set just in case

[hot mountain]

Just some car sound deadening material similar to this ￡ 1.55 30%OFF | 10 Sheets Sound Deadener Heat Insulation Mat Car Van Sound Proofing Deadening Insulation Car Hood Insulation Silent 5mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mM7Su7K

Just cut it to size to fit the recessions in the space bar.

[pulsar ridge]

Welp, I was going to make a video, but I'm kinda lazy right now. I think I've found the best in-stock Tofu alternative in the market and can confirm it fits the 60HE

https://paramountkeeb.com/products/paramount-keeb-60-aluminium-case

You can also use code "cluck" for 5% off at checkout (it's not a creator code, I don't get anything from this)

[somber scroll]

Those are some very clear keycaps

[mellow egret]

eu pain

[bright spruce]

@pulsar ridge is there a slight gap with the pcb on the right, like in the tofu

Bc that drives me insane

u can't center the pcb because of the usb hole one the case

[drowsy bough]

Anyone knows what I did wrong with the stabs here? I can’t seem to fix this 😦

[bronze grove]

Get the switch plate out of the case. Then try again.

Gotta check if it snags on something, or if it's the stabilizer wire or stems that's up.

[stray tiger]

9 times out of 10 when I have that exact problem with spacebars, its due to keycap warp. Can you swap that keycap back to stock and try again

[drowsy bough]

I’ve tried stock and it’s the exact same issue

[drowsy bough]

Gonna try that now

[pulsar ridge]

Perfectly centered for me, the usb is a close fit, but it works without any issues when it's screwed down

[pulsar ridge]

They're Fancylabs T-Series. I love them, but unfortunately my WASD legends are already fading since they're uv printed

[drowsy bough]

Like that

The stab wire goes under the plate right?

[pulsar ridge]

yup

[drowsy bough]

So idk what I’m doing wrong with both the stock stabs and keycaps

If I push it all the way it gets stuck

😭😭 I’m dumb

[bronze grove]

Does that mean you fixed it or?

[drowsy bough]

No

Idk what’s wrong

Hahahaha

[bronze grove]

Time to inspect the stabilizer wires. Unscrew the PCBA and separate the three layers. Then inspect the wires underneath the key.

They must be getting stuck.

[drowsy bough]

It was working fine in stock only having issues now changing case

Which is weird

[rancid fern]

PSD60 GASKET mount
I'm not really a fan of the rounded edges but it's not bad for a ~$70 case. This is just an experiment to see how I like it gasket mounted and then I'll swap to a new case.

[pulsar ridge]

Do you use a different plate for this case, or it just sandwiches the stock plate?

[pulsar ridge]

Did you remove the stabilizer wire from the housing?

[rancid fern]

It came with a plate with the correct layout. I just had to drill 8 small holes and install $2 standoffs.

[proud moth]

ur mouse pad is insane

[somber scroll]

Did you tape the stab holes there? Like put tape on the plate?

That might be pushing the tabs in on the stabs and catching the stem

[drowsy bough]

You’re spot on

I removed the tape and it works again

I am so stupid

HAHAHAAHAHA

[somber scroll]

Lol

[grizzled path]

[bronze grove]

[marble shuttle]

@drowsy bough what is that tape did you remove

[drowsy bough]

Some teflon thing I saw online

Did not work for me

[somber scroll]

Teflon or electrical tape?

[drowsy bough]

teflon

according to the seller

[somber scroll]

Ah

[shell geode]

I ordered one too 👍 How do you like the case so far?

[pulsar ridge]

Love it. Sounds great with just the stock wooting 60he foam in it. I did the o-ring mount too

[shell geode]

Niceee, I can't wait for mine to come in. And the stock screws did fine with the o-rings?

[pulsar ridge]

I did the gummy o-ring. I ordered the one for the ciel65 and it fit perfectly

[zinc scroll]

i feel you

[frozen condor]

😭

[marble shuttle]

this shipping costs are gonna kill me 😄

[austere creek]

what country are you shipping to jesus

thats some hard core costs and i hipe they hand deliver

[iron jacinth]

My god, that is severe! Yea, what country are you shipping to? I want to know where I shouldn't move to with this hobby xD

[hot mountain]

Did you know that this is the PSD60 "RE" - (Rounded Edge)

The standard PSD60 doesn't have rounded edges 😉

[edgy nexus]

Thoughts on the klippe T?

[austere creek]

resident evil edition sounds dope ngl

[hot mountain]

That would be way cooler for sure 😁

[rancid fern]

@hot mountain As far as I've seen there is no gasket mounted version without the rounded edges.

[hot mountain]

Ah gotchya, yeah your right the regular one with straight edges has the standoffs. I misread.

[rancid fern]

Either way, I still intend to swap to a better case. I'm hoping the Polaris V2 finally comes out soon.

[stray tiger]

LOL that whole fiasco with his stabs just makes me laugh. Once again time spent doing a mod for a problem that didnt exist, only because it was seen online and it actually caused an issue.

[drowsy bough]

😭😭😭😭

It’s my first time doing anything with a keyboard so I trusted google

[sage flicker]

damn man that's awful news. Merry xmas though and hope we can eventually get super silent Lekker switches!

[balmy minnow]

i pray for it at some point, something like the U4Tx where only the upstroke is silenced would be a god send IMO

[upbeat delta]

The keycaps are chefs kiss

[inner relic]

Hi, does anyone know any very similar alternatives to the tofu 60 currently available uk? Cant seem to find any similar that are in stock haha

[supple belfry]

my Wooting 60HE build

changed case to Tofu60 with some orings on screws, and more foam added, lubed all switches

[shell geode]

Typing video please!

[frozen condor]

does putting a mousepad under the keyboard make a difference?

[unreal bear]

As far as similar form factor goes, klippe t and the Poseidon PSD60 come to mind. Not sure whether they're available in UK though.

[inner relic]

I can find ones for the PSD60RE and have seen in this thread a few people mention it but no confirmations on if this works without modification however ;/

[grizzled path]

depends on the desk, but I just tested for you - there's a lot more reverb straight on desk, I have lubed the switches and use custom case though, so dunno how much effect there would be on stock case

[grizzled path]

works yes

[void abyss]

I would say yes. I didn't even lubed the switches yet and a keyboardpad improved the sound of the stock 60he by a lot. Even on my 2.5cm thick wood desk top.

[unreal bear]

I use the regular PSD60 and from the looks of the PSD60RE, it should still work.

[grizzled path]

re is the same, just rounded edges as far as I know

[unreal bear]

Pretty much the conclusion I came to as well.

[grizzled path]

might actually be higher profile but anyway

[inner relic]

perfect thank you so much : )

[unreal bear]

Feels bad. If I had known there was an RE, I'd bought that one instead. My dumbass also forgot the baka60 case exists as well.

[grizzled path]

there are some psd clones on aliexpress without the (imo ugly) branding as well

[unreal bear]

I'm saving money for a vacation in the summer so buying a new case gonna have to wait 😭

[frozen condor]

well i hope itll sound ok without a deskpad because i dont have a deskpad

[grizzled path]

you could get one later down the line if you're annoyed by it

[inner relic]

do you have any links? i can only see the one with the writing on the back

[unreal bear]

I'm not bothered too much by it. Mostly glad it's on the back so I don't even see it when I'm leisurely typing or playing games.

[grizzled path]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003524133078.html

[frozen condor]

that looks sick icl might have to buy it

[unreal bear]

Was just about to post this 😆

Peeped at the review where someone says it's the same as the PSD60 but without the logo.

[grizzled path]

yeah there's a few here who have it

[river reef]

That review was me lol

I bought both and compared

[somber scroll]

Intriguing. Putting a tiny piece of vinyl on one side of the stem (basically covering the face of the area around one of the side rails) removes a ton of the wobble. Doesn’t really seem feasible to do at scale tho. Might also try putting it on the housing instead to see if that’s easier. It seems like most of the wobble is left to right and forward/back not so much (at least on this single switch. Could be different in general h suppose)
Both sides causes the switch to get stuck tho

[sleek plover]

Boys what brand of cable do you guys recommend ?

[normal schooner]

so far other cables from the stock havent been recommand cuz of tachyeon mode

[fair mountain]

When doing tape mod, is there any place other than the screw holes where the tape needs to be cut out?

[sleek plover]

ah really, the black and yellow really kill my mods (all silver) really wish they sale a grey/black cable

[haughty delta]

I'm using a pro straight cablemod one without issues

[tall hollow]

Oh huh

[misty whale]

can u use Tachyon mode with another cable?

[somber scroll]

What I’m not sure on is whether lubing will cause the vinyl to slip and no longer stick

[tall hollow]

Ofc as long as the resistance is low enough.

[tall hollow]

Try to put it on the outside of the rails and snap the switch together to bend the rails inward a little bit?

[misty whale]

oh thx

[sleek plover]

Does the cablemod support tachyon ?

[somber scroll]

I’m confused lol

[bronze grove]

ALL cables outside of really shitty ones support Tachyon. But if they're longer than the included 6ft cable, then you may need to reduce LED brightness to keep it running without weird issues.

Reducing it to about 70% is usually enough.

[naive sphinx]

Does anyone in the UK know of any websites that sell the Klippe T?

[sleek plover]

Thanks Mansen

[tall hollow]

Like, Make it so that it bends the rails of the bottom housing inward just a little bit when you put the switch back together.

Is what I’m trying to convey.

[somber scroll]

After lubing? Or just when using the vinyl

[haughty delta]

I'm using all the features without issue, the cable I got is shorter than the default one

[sleek plover]

Thanks man will order one

[tall hollow]

hmmm

[somber scroll]

If I put 3 layers of vinyl (2 on one side, one on the other) inside the rail slot on the bottom housing it’s fine, but then 4 causes it to bind. (Not sure if the difference in layers is because of brand of vinyl or because it’s glossy instead of matte. Need to test that). Doesn’t seem to reduce the wobble as much as putting it just on one side of the stem tho. Probably because of where that vinyl contacts the housing 🤔

[tall hollow]

interesting

[somber scroll]

From what I can tell from rudimentary testing with my kitchen scale, the amount of force needed to overcome the extra resistance is like 20 grams or so (this could be totally wrong tho lol). Would be interesting to try this with 80g springs

[ivory cove]

Can you still use the fx features too?

Wait tachyon mode turns off fx nvm

[hot kayak]

Has anyone put their lekker switches through an actuator?

[tall hollow]

Hmm?

Explain in further detail

[hot kayak]

An actuation machine

Something like this

[tall hollow]

Oh, I think wooting did for their PVT testing

[hot kayak]

Im thinking of putting 300k+ actuations on my switches when i get mine

[tall hollow]

Lmao why?

[hot kayak]

But sometimes the actuator doesnt do anything for certain switches

It makes the switch smoother

Like a lot smoother cause its broken in

[tall hollow]

Tbh you’re better off lubing them than go through the effort and time of that.

[hot kayak]

But you tend to do it before you lube and stuff

I mean i have a machine to use might as well use it

This is for keyboard and modding nerds

[tall hollow]

They’re already really smooth from the simple fact that they are a contactless switch

I don’t think they will benefit from it

[hot kayak]

I see, i will do further inspection when it gets here

Idk theres like a really weird sound the wooting produces thats stopping it from sounding end game

And it most definitely has to do with the switches and plate so im trying to do as many changes as i can

[tall hollow]

That’s because of how they are designed, idk what materials they used to create such a (ngl pretty shit) sound.

But breaking them in will certainly not change the sound profile at all.

[hot kayak]

Yea i ordered tripods some open flexible switch films, and im hoping the actuator reduces friction to avoid any type of the plastic touching each other

I honestly just really hate the sound it makes going up and down

I mean its not my only keyboard so its not gonna hurt me if i cant use it immediately

I only bought it to use when i game

[tall hollow]

Honestly, going for a clack build for the wooting is a much better option if you’re chasing nice acoustics.

[hot kayak]

I feel like thats so hard though when clack is produced mainly off switches

[tall hollow]

Well, most of the sound comes from the switch anyways?

Weather it be a clack or thock?

[hot kayak]

Yea but most mods help achieve thock than clack

And if i dont like the sound of the wooting switch already i feel like making a clacky build would be way more unsatisfactory for me

But thats just preference

[tall hollow]

Yeah

But achieving a thock on the lekker switch is gonna be really hard.

[hot kayak]

Welp i just wanna test its limits and see how much of a sound difference i can get, but my expectations arent too high

[tall hollow]

But hey, it’s a performance board!

[hot kayak]

Yep true! Thats why i got it, as long as i can change the case out thats all i really cared about

[tall hollow]

To me that’s already enough to get me sold on one lmao

[hot kayak]

I shouldve bought it before the osu community hopped on when it was available, i just built a keyboard the time it came out so I didn’t want to spend more when i just got a new one

[sage flicker]

holy crap, lubing switches and changing springs takes forever.

need a movie playlist while you do it

[quiet bay]

when you take them out you realize there's alot more than you think

[hot kayak]

I usually just watch anime or twitch

[quiet bay]

nah

[hot kayak]

But 64 switches is not that bad

[sage flicker]

wym take them out? I can see how many are left on the keyboard plate lol

[quiet bay]

back then it took longer to ship

[hot kayak]

Oh did it really

[quiet bay]

now it takes like only a month or less for the 60he

[sage flicker]

i'm on 3rd from bottom row

[hot kayak]

Did you not take out all your switches?

[sage flicker]

nah doing it 1 at a time

[quiet bay]

and they also had one without the arm chip

[sage flicker]

out then in

[hot kayak]

Oh lord

[quiet bay]

so buying it early you would be missing the arm chip

[hot kayak]

Whats the arm chip

[sage flicker]

i mean it takes the same total time

[hot kayak]

Naw idk i think its way faster since you can just bag lube your springs

[sage flicker]

ohh bag lube u say?

how does that work. Dump lube in the bag it came in and mix it around? lol

[quiet bay]

I dont know what it really does

[hot kayak]

Yea if you throw all your spring in a bag and out lube in there and shuffle/shake it around it lubes the springs faster

[quiet bay]

but it makes the wooting 60he better

[hot kayak]

I see

[sage flicker]

oo interesting

[quiet bay]

dont quote me on that

[sage flicker]

wonder how effective it is though, will look it up.

[hot kayak]

I also think if youre adding stuff like switch films and stuff it makes the process more organized and efficient

[quiet bay]

also

[sage flicker]

ya just low on desk space atm, but I guess I can make room. What are switch films?

[hot kayak]

I think the lekker switches spring might need a little more lube than usual but not sure thats what i heard

[quiet bay]

just a heads up

the switches are insanely wobbly

[hot kayak]

Oh really

[quiet bay]

yes

[hot kayak]

Switch films are little plastic films you put between the housing of the switch

[hot kayak]

You can barely put it on these switches if you have flexible films cause the housing has like a wide thingy on the side

[sage flicker]

looking up bag method

[hot kayak]

Im assuming its not possible to put tape around the holes to reduce it

Or it would just take forever

[quiet bay]

well i've never tried it

but you can experiment

on the 2 spare switches

that come with the wooting

[hot kayak]

I meant like putting tape around the plate holes

[sage flicker]

I think the lube I received is too thick for a bag to spread around. The YT vid shows a liquid style lube.

i bought mine from wooting store

[hot kayak]

Ohhh what grade is the lube from wooting

[quiet bay]

oh

haven't tried

[hot kayak]

If its kytox 5g0 i think it should be fine

[quiet bay]

never heard of anyone doing that

[sage flicker]

205g0

k

[hot kayak]

205g0

Yea thats what i use

[sage flicker]

its very pasty so idk

not sure it'll spread around in a bag

[quiet bay]

if u wanna bag lube springs u might want to go for 105g0

[sage flicker]

ya

that's what I was thinking, np. I don't mind not bagging.

[quiet bay]

tbh

I think I lubed my springs too lightly

way underlubed

[hot kayak]

Do you use stock or the 50g

[sage flicker]

ya I like to lube it up good.

[quiet bay]

im too lazy to go back and relube the springs

I lubed them with 205g0

also that actuation machine seems very interesting

[hot kayak]

My black inks have 300k+ actuations and i dont want to go back to old typing experiences

Its like a night and day difference even if you buy broken in switches off mechmarket

[tall hollow]

I filmed my switches and it got rid of the housing wobble.

[sage flicker]

what does breaking in do for the switches? Quieter typing after 300k actuations?

[tall hollow]

No lmao

[sage flicker]

what does filming do? Quieter?

[hot kayak]

Naw it makes the switch feel smoother

[sage flicker]

ah

k

[tall hollow]

My Z and X keys sound no different than the rest of my keys lol, nor do they feel any different.

[hot kayak]

Filming gets rid of like the harsh sound you get from slamming the keys

[quiet bay]

I'll get my switches smoother overtime using it 😂

[somber scroll]

Is my 205g0 supposed to look chunky?

[somber scroll]

Also the few that I’ve lubed still sound sort of scratchy when I hold them up to my ear. Normal? Or do I need more lube? I feel like I’m putting on too much but they don’t feel mushy so maybe not

[dense snow]

you could try adding a little more and then re-assembling the switch for feedback

[somber scroll]

Yeah I might. It’s definitely better than the factory switch after doing a blind test with them right next to my ear

[dense snow]

yeah i noticed the same thing after lubing my switches; some of them didn't sound the same as others and i just added more lube to them and it made it more consistent all around

[shell geode]

Baka60 is here! Using zip-it shelf liner for now until I get the brass plate finished 👌

[hot kayak]

i was thinking of putting wheel weights in my kbdfans 5degree

[zealous sentinel]

i got same plans but just white! just waiting switch opener and switch puller to arriving! i hope i find front side printed keycaps somewhere.

does some body knows can u use durock platemount stabs in wooting? my wooting stabs are little rattling.

[bronze grove]

Yes. No different

[hot kayak]

Cant you just band aid mod that or is it like a ticking

[torpid swan]

Does anyone know who makes the thinnest left-side frame case for a wooting 60HE? The Baka60 looks pretty thin

[iron jacinth]

What sort of films did you get? I heard the Lekker switch isn't easy to film, as most won't fit

[tall hollow]

I used some Amazon films that came in a kit that I bought a year ago.

[iron jacinth]

Was it a perfect fit or kind of wonky?

[tall hollow]

It was quite wonky but it worked

[iron jacinth]

Would you recommend it?

[tall hollow]

Not really lol

Unless your housings are super loose.

[iron jacinth]

Alright, thanks xD

I'd have a bit of fear that filming would mess with the distance and therefore with the switch actuation.

[sick hedge]

Would you say the Wooting is more thock or clack?

[hot kayak]

clack

not a good type of clack tho

but that my opinion

[sick hedge]

I see yeah, for me it's the first analogue keyboard I've ordered ever

I'm coming from a 2014 Razer Blackwidow Chroma

[sick hedge]

I see hmmm

[hot kayak]

i see i mean this is technically my first analog

i dont even have mine yet

but im into modding keyboards

[sick hedge]

nice, yeah I also wanna get into it a bit at least to create one for myself

not too crazy

kinda just like the Wooting story hence I decided to order the wooting instead of some other brand

[hot kayak]

i see

i mean the wooting comes prebuilt

but you're allowed to take out the pcb and switch cases and you can mod the switches too

the only thing you cant mod is the plate

[bronze grove]

You can mod anything. But if you break it, your warranty for that part ends.

[hot kayak]

nothing a little soldering cant fix

[austere creek]

soldering voids the pcb warranty

[bronze grove]

To be fair if you broke it to begin with, what warranty

[austere creek]

fair enough

[bronze grove]

We have had a couple of folks self replace the HE sensors and LEDs due to accidental damage on 60HEa.

[hot kayak]

yea tbh i guess since wooting is more so on the large consumer side of things instead of people in the keyboarding community

i never really expected to ask for any freebies to fix something i built

most of the time theres like extra parts sold online

so i never knew there was a warranty that came with this board lol

[gray shoal]

Anyone can recommend where I can get heatshrink for stab wire?

Heard people saying on YouTube it’s hard to find that will fit inside stem

[hot kayak]

have you seen anyone try and switch to a POM plate?

[bronze grove]

Folks have mentioned it. But I have yet to see someone actually make and show it off here.

[hot kayak]

the plate is probably the last thing ill touch since that actually requires a lot of actual modification

[bronze grove]

We have the designs on GitHub. But you need to solder the standoffs onto it somehow.

And there's the potential issue with the POM flexing enough to cause sensor issues.

[hot kayak]

yea thats what i was aware of

the sensor issue and standoff issue

[bronze grove]

I guess one could theoretically make a plate with screw in standoffs.

Really flat screws that go in from above, through the plate and into a standoff with threading on both ends.

[hot kayak]

i feel like that takes a lot of measuring

[bronze grove]

Oh yeah. I imagine several prototypes and trial and error.

[balmy minnow]

absolutely, i've bought a prototype board off a friend of mine and it has broken in mx browns. straight up one of the best feeling keyboards i own

tho i feel like lekkers don't need that treatment 😛 they feel amazing from the start

[patent gazelle]

I will say I'm still not used to the linear feel but the sound is so nice. To be fair I've been typing on clicky tactiles for... a decade now?

So linear is a big adjustment.

But this is also the first time I've ever lubed switches and stabs and the change in sound is really quite remarkable.

[flint sedge]

First time ever lubing switches and stabilizers. Really happy with how it turned out but not sure if I went to heavy on the stabs. It doesn’t feel muddy or sluggish but I put a pretty fair amount of grease especially on my space bar because it had terrible rattle

[shell geode]

Love the colors! What case did you swap to?

[indigo mesa]

So wooting is selling lighter springs
Can I buy other springs or they won't work with the wooting magnet

[flint sedge]

@shell geode it’s called the mojo60 it’s sold by melgeek. It’s solid aluminum. It’s got a really nice weight to it

[sharp marten]

they wont work because they arent the same diameter

[indigo mesa]

so only the wooting store ones are compatible

are the lighter ones worth?

[sharp marten]

yeah they are the only ones compatible

imo the stocks ones are more than fine

[flint sedge]

@indigo mesa From people I have talked to and some reviews I would say the stock are more than good enough unless you tend to game for long periods and will help with fatigue but I picked to leave mine alone because you can do so much to the key actuation and rapid trigger I thing they put the right resistance in with this switches

Esp if you just take the time to lube them they are so smooth

[indigo mesa]

Yeah

[shell geode]

Nice! Oh wow, its over 3lbs by itself! Your build must be a brick now 😆

[flint sedge]

Yeah it feels closer to 2 lb but I like that it’s got some weight. I’m a welder so I’m used to handing metal and heavy stuff so when I couldn’t find a tofu anywhere but used it worked out great and I like it to point I’m going to order another 60he as a back up

[sharp marten]

Honestly, I think this case might be better than the Tofu because it has a smaller front lip

[somber scroll]

Bummer it’s out of stock in like every color lol

[flint sedge]

Yeah I was lucky the white went with my set up

But honestly think you could paint it pretty easy

[sharp marten]

hopefully they restock ii

[flint sedge]

I still can’t believe they discontinued the tofu right as the wooting was really getting traction

[shell geode]

Hope they bring it back! I'm sure they are planning to, since their demand is high and they have a grip on the custom Wooting market

[bronze grove]

Nope.

They're busy making a redesigned V2 for their new, own PCB. Which won't be remotely compatible with the standard 60HE uses.

[tall hollow]

No, they’re focusing their resources on the V2

Although they might change their mind

[bronze grove]

[tall hollow]

please get Calder make that Alu case faster

Or else I will cnc my own

[vast crown]

i am considering the aliexpress cases but colors are so hard to tell

does anyone know what white vs silver looks like for psd60 for example

[bright spruce]

Pretty sure there's a pic on the subreddit with the white case

There are 2 variants of the case btw one woth rounded corners and one with pointy

Keep that in mind

Also from what I've seen recently that's the best tofu60 case alternative so far

Man wish wooting would actually make an alu case inspired by the tofu

[vast crown]

difference on aliexpress post is so tiny

i'm not sure if silver would look as good with white keycaps though

(white is out of stock it seems)

[shell geode]

I ordered the white, got notified that silver is all they had left

[vast crown]

are you keeping it?

[shell geode]

Yup! Going to paint it

[stray tiger]

I like the melgeek mojo cases (both the weight and typing angle)

[vast crown]

whoa that sounds extreme

i would not dare paint my case lol

[tall hollow]

Indeed, it does look very nice.

[stray tiger]

I actually havent changed cases in a few weeks now but I'll be swapping over to a Salvation case tonight to see if I have the same results as this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Fw8Qrit4E

[vast crown]

do you think it's not white enough? surely someone's built a keyboard in one of these before right

[shell geode]

I think it's worth a try going for a color you want, and even better if you have experience. If not, you can pay someone to do it for you 😃

[tall hollow]

I’ve heard that salvation cases ping really badly though.

[stray tiger]

Not sure Ive seen anyone review the Salvation (with a wooting) before other than BadSeedTech and Im not usually a believer in a single opinion

[tall hollow]

Well I’m just saying in general, because of the nature of its design.

[shell geode]

Yes, there's been plenty of PSD60s on here

[vast crown]

ok maybe this is a good reference https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/tqjyg9/decided_to_do_a_budget_60_percent_aluminum_build/

it is indeed significantly gray

[shell geode]

Someone even polished and ceramic coated theirs

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow the leaf springs are pinging? Can you shoot me a few links? I already own the Salvation but havent tried it with the Wooting yet and mine doesnt ping at all

[tall hollow]

Mmmmm, idk if I should trust myself, maybe you’re right.

[untold wigeon]

New keycaps

[molten jewel]

has anyone used this case previously? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804994547526.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.5e7f64cehhN2Ds&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=9991375e-76af-4c55-a6ed-990a508f2c62&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A9991375e-76af-4c55-a6ed-990a508f2c62%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238110%231995&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!112.49!89.99!!!!!%402101c5c316812774047862287ef980!12000031996525731!rec!US!&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

[cerulean pier]

Hello, can anybody tell me if it's worth getting any of these keycaps over the default ones?

Do the other keycaps change sound, or is it just nicer looking?

[lime needle]

PBT keycaps are defo better than ABS if thats what you have selected

[cerulean pier]

so the default is ABS right?

[lime needle]

Yes I believe you have the ABS right now.

ABS is cheaper and wear out faster, also collects oil easier

[stray tiger]

No worries! Thats why we do the testing ourselves. As always I will def provide my unbiased review and let you know my thoughts on the Salvation case.

[cerulean pier]

Okay I will trust you, random cat on discord

[lime needle]

Np believe in the cat

Almost every keyboard enjoyers use PBT keycaps, ABS is just too cheap

[cerulean pier]

Is it worth getting the lube too? I've never lubed keyboards before

[tall hollow]

im just going off what I already know with product and industrial design.

[rancid spade]

I agree with the cat

[stray tiger]

@lime needle I'd argue thats not true at all. In fact the GMK keycap market alone proves thats not true. PBT and ABS both have positives and negatives and whether those matter to you or not is different for everyone.

[cerulean pier]

What are the negatives of PBT?

[lime needle]

Sure, but for most people PBT is just higher quality and it feels more premium. I can’t go back from PBT

Oh sorry wrong post lol

[stray tiger]

Again, I disagree with saying "For most people". I tend to prefer the feel and sound of premium ABS caps like GMK

[cerulean pier]

I'm only considering the wooting ones here

[lime needle]

You tend to prefer it, but the majority of people buying keebs want pbt for the longevity and the granular feel of the keycaps.

[tall hollow]

im a pbt enjoyer, but thats just me.

[lime needle]

Also not everyone get gmk keycaps with their 100-150$ keebs anyway

[stray tiger]

PBT negatives include things like color accuracy & options compared to ABS. PBT plastic is more prone to warping than ABS and there is a different sound to PBT caps than ABS (again, may or may not be a negative)

[stray tiger]

Well you must have access to some great data. I think most people dont care, but again the GMK market alone proves that there is a VERY large group of enthusiasts who prefer ABS. I do enjoy PBT on a number of boards I have!

[shell geode]

I work 40 hours a week on my ABS keycaps, and I've already worn out the coating on most of the keys after a month...

[cerulean pier]

Is this the same thing?

[lime needle]

I’m not talking about magic here… keyboard reviewers tend to dislike ABS more because it feels cheaper.

[vast crown]

lmao yea i noticed that too

[stray tiger]

I actually like the feel of smoothed out ABS caps haha

[shell geode]

It's shining and I hate it lolol

[stray tiger]

@lime needle well with that kind of statement Im sure you can show me at least 1-2 links from reviewers stating they dislike ABS caps

[cerulean pier]

Are the springs or lube set worth it? For a non keyboard enjoyer?

[stray tiger]

In fact, I'd put money that on it that the majority of popular keyboard reviewers use GMK caps on thier boards for reviews, by an overwhelming amount.

[tall hollow]

I hate it, it feels weird.

[lime needle]

I have one in mind, too much tech’s video of the wooting two he

[untold wigeon]

anyone from the UK know any cases on amazon that are compatible with the 60he? maybe something in white?

[lime needle]

It has abs and he states that it feels really cheap and collects finger oil a whole lot.

[shell geode]

The springs are worth it if your preference is to type on lighter keys

[rancid spade]

Hard to say (in my opinion lubed switches are really nice)

[shell geode]

And lube is a MUST

[stray tiger]

Well sure, cheap ABS and cheap PBT arent enjoyable. That doesnt mean he hates ABS caps and it def doesnt mean the majority of people hate ABS caps

[cerulean pier]

So the springs make the key presses lighter?

[shell geode]

Yup, it isn't drastic, but noticeable enough

[cerulean pier]

How much more work is it putting them in?

I fear I get all this shit and then I'm too lazy to do it

[shell geode]

@cerulean pier
F key = stock
D key = spring swapped and lubed
S key = taped, spring swapped, and lubed

[shell geode]

Uh, do you like watching streams or movies?

[cerulean pier]

not really 😄

I mean the stock sounds good enough for me I think

I just want to play apex with this keyboard, I kinda prefer the snappier sound of the stock one

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow I like it on my WASD keys. The sticky feeling you get when it's smooth is nice haha

[shell geode]

Oh okay, if you're good with it out of the box, no need to change anything 👍

[cerulean pier]

The lubed ones sound good, but it will lose some tactical feeling to the keypresses right?

[tall hollow]

like, no

[cerulean pier]

Like it will make the keypresses softer

[shell geode]

After lubing, it stills feels tactical, no mushy feeling

[cerulean pier]

How long is the lubing?

[stray tiger]

@cerulean pier I forgot that wooting has a great explanation of pros/cons on their site - https://next.wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[cerulean pier]

Good to know they wont melt as easy

[pastel pewter]

PBT for non greasy key caps over time lol

[shell geode]

I think it depends per person and how fast or slow, but I watched 2 movies while doing them, and I was just chilling

[stray tiger]

@cerulean pier thats for the serious osu gamers who get those caps heated up going 100mph lol

[grizzled path]

nice I could take ABS caps to a sauna

I mean pbt kek

[tall hollow]

350BPM stream be like

[cerulean pier]

Also what does this blank mean

no letters on keyboard?

[grizzled path]

it's a brand name

[stray tiger]

No legends on the caps

[grizzled path]

no no, it's the brand name wooting uses for their lubes and (some) caps

https://wooting.store/collections/keycaps/products/blank-seamless-double-shot-pbt-keycaps vs https://wooting.store/collections/keycaps/products/wooting-double-shot-pbt-shine-through-keycaps-us-ansi-uk-iso-just-black

same legends, different brand name

[cerulean pier]

Fuck it I get the keycaps I get the lube I get the springs

No thinking makes it easier

[grizzled path]

that's the spirit

[shell geode]

LETS GO

[cerulean pier]

I'm not saying I'm gonna lube it yet, it might just sit in a corner hidden away 😄

[shell geode]

No problem, it will be there when you do decide to lube it 👍

[stray tiger]

Oh I missed earlier when he was linking to the wooting site. Normally blank means no legends haha

[cerulean pier]

But thank you other cat on the discord

[supple belfry]

anyone know a good red and black keycap set with rgb shine through

[edgy nexus]

Anyone know of any good dampening foam I can get?

[sage flicker]

why is krytox lube way more expensive on amazon than regular 205g0?

getting some more and not sure what to get

went krytox, because I read it lasts longer in the switch.

[zinc scroll]

Does anyone here know if there is a keycap set out there that is gold and actually decent?
Like not those insanly poor shiney gold keycaps that you can find anwhere but like an actually good mby matte gold keycap set xD

[tall hollow]

Depends on the sound that you want.

Different foams produce different sound signatures.

[edgy nexus]

Say a creamy sound

That I can combine with gateron pro yellows

[tall hollow]

So higher pitched is what you’re saying?

[edgy nexus]

Nvm

Thocky

So lower pitched

[tall hollow]

Ah

Neoprene or sorbothane would work

Both are relatively dense foams

[edgy nexus]

Do I need a thick layer of foam?

Or like 2mm is fine

[tall hollow]

Better to buy the thinner stuff and layer it to your liking.

Rather than getting the thicker foam and finding out that it doesn’t work.

[edgy nexus]

Im looking into buying the klippe T with their pcb and plate and on the website they say not to put more than 2mm of foam

As it may affect the pcb

[tall hollow]

Yeah, probably thinner if you are doing other mods

[edgy nexus]

Alr

[tall hollow]

Like tape mod

[edgy nexus]

Nah

[tall hollow]

then I think you can go with the manufacturers specifications.

[edgy nexus]

Alr

They just sold out their foam lol

[tall hollow]

If that’s too expensive then you can try packing foam.

[edgy nexus]

Thats why I was asking

[tall hollow]

Doesn’t hurt to cut it yourself

[edgy nexus]

True

Its bc they were selling it in a bundle

[tall hollow]

Try packing foam first and see how you like it.

Although just be weary about thicknesses

[shell geode]

https://www.amazon.com/Isolate-Sorbothane-Acoustic-Vibration-Damping/dp/B0084EXBFA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2LG2ZO9SQZBDI&keywords=sorbothane&qid=1681339457&sprefix=sorbothane%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-3 2.5mm

[edgy nexus]

expensive ah lmao

But im going all out on this keyboard lol

[river reef]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNeOJXO

Or you can even silicone pour

I did it on my baldr60 and psd60re

[edgy nexus]

Nah thats starting to get pretty complicated

For my first keyboard build

lol

[edgy nexus]

Does it fit a klippe T

[edgy nexus]

What sounds best?

[river reef]

Im gonna be honest to you

Because its wooting

The sound dont really change that much

[tall hollow]

lol so true

[river reef]

The sound properly of lekker switch is just not that complicated

Literally plastic slider and spring

[wheat magnet]

Is there a list of cases that support the Wooting 60HE or something? I know the TOFU works, but I was wondering if you guys know of any other cases?

[river reef]

I used tofu 60, baldr60, now fjell

Not much change in sound property

[river reef]

Look at pinned msg

[wheat magnet]

Ohhh I knew I saw it somewhere! I looked at the description of the channel instead of the pinned messages Thank you!

[river reef]

Np

[quaint notch]

i agree

mine basically sounding same as it did stock

even after lubing + tofu aluminim case swap

but i dont really care, keyboard sounds good enoigh

[river reef]

Yea the sound dif is miniscule

[edgy nexus]

Its not a wooting that im building lol

Im building another custom just to write and I ordered a wooting to game

I just didnt know who to ask

[unreal bear]

I modded mine and there was a substantial change in sound profile. For the most part though, i just wanted the board to be incased in metal.

[river reef]

The switches of yours prob had bad lube job then

[pastel pewter]

the wooting plate is what’s playing the biggest role in sound

[river reef]

@stray tiger hey man sorry this is not related to wooting, but do you know if fjell is made with 6061 aluminium? Their website have no info on that

[stray tiger]

No idea but you you could always try joining their discord and asking. They are pretty good about replying

[somber scroll]

What did you do to yours?

[river reef]

I did but nobody replied to me sadly

[stray tiger]

Ahh dang. Wish I could help man sorry

[unreal bear]

PSD60 case, lubed switches, burger mounted, durock stabs (stem lubed, wire tape modded, and wire lubed with dielectric grease), pcb tape modded. Edit: forgot to mention I used foam from wooting 60he stock

[somber scroll]

For the tape modded stab wire, is that just wrapping it in electrical tape?

[unreal bear]

wrapped mine in medical tape. Actually gonna try a heat shrink method on another set of stabs.

[somber scroll]

Ah interesting

Similar effect as holee mod? But just applied to stab?

[unreal bear]

yeah. I think this method lasts longer because less chances for the tape to come off

[somber scroll]

Ah yeah

[shell geode]

ooo heat shrink tubing, interesting. Let us know how that goes

[dense snow]

are most aluminum cases made out of an alloy or are they pure aluminum?

[river reef]

They are alloy

Pure aluminium is rare

[dense snow]

6061 is likely the case

[river reef]

I just want to know what kind

Yea thats what I think as well

[dense snow]

pretty sure it's the most common alloy in keyboard cases

unrelelated but bike frames too

[river reef]

But the company doing anodising for me would like to know

They said its a bit heavy for aluminium

So maybe they used 7 series?

[dense snow]

but then again there's a brass weight inside of the fjell

which does contribute to the weight

[river reef]

Oh nah I took that out

So its just the case no weight or rubber feet

[dense snow]

did you weigh it yourself?

[river reef]

Nope

But i know the case is heavier than my other case for sure

Since the sides are thick af

[dense snow]

im not sure if 7 series aluminum is heavier than series 6 though

[river reef]

Yea idk

Or maybe they just didnt realise the case is that thick

But idk what they worrying about

[dense snow]

yeah the case looks fairly thick

[river reef]

They came out of factory anodised

The e white one should be exact same material except painted

[dense snow]

idk anything about anodizing but it is absolutely crucial that they should know the material of the case?

[river reef]

I dont think so

They just need to know if its aluminium alloy or not

[dense snow]

i'm sure it's most definitely alloy if it refers to "aircraft-grade aluminum"

how does the wooting feel in the fjell?

do all the screw holes align?

[river reef]

I didnt use the two screw in standoff

But yea it fits fine

[river reef]

I think so too

I did gummy ring mount tho

Just add a small silicone rubber sticker on the triangles and the stand off so it doesnt sink

[dense snow]

ah okay i was just curious

[river reef]

My baldr60 was the one I had issue with

The two side screws barely goes in

[brazen thunder]

aircraft grade sounds kinda gimmicky

[river reef]

It is in a way

Cos it hasnt been treated aircraft grade

[dense snow]

aircraft-grade has always been gimmicky but it does indicate an alloy

[river reef]

It just means they used the same grade alloy

[brazen thunder]

def not the same exact alloy though if i had to guess

[dense snow]

most likely 6061 with the weight being attributed to the thicker sidewalls of the fjell

[river reef]

Yea

[dense snow]

how heavy is the brass weight?

[river reef]

I called them and he was convinced

[river reef]

Would say like ~800g maybe?

[dense snow]

that's almost half the weight of the board

case*

[river reef]

But im not sure if its cos the shape is weird

So when i hold it balance is thrown off

But with weight out of the case

Im sure its heavier than my pds60re

Slightly lighter than baldr60

[dense snow]

do you own a klippe t?

[river reef]

Nope

Only got the fjell cos it was on second hand market for 300nzd

And it was e white so I could anodise it

[frozen condor]

what can i do while lubing to make it not so boring

[river reef]

Watch yt

[frozen condor]

i feel like i wont be able to focus on the video or if i do focus ill mess up the lubing

not sure tho id have to try it

[sage flicker]

switched out the lighter springs and put extra lube, quieter but feels super mush, maybe I lubed too much.

guess I just get used to it.

I don't think lube is the answer to silence, need actual tactile silence switches.

[patent gazelle]

Yeah, if you want actually silent switches, you want a different keyboard.

[patent gazelle]

I put on podcasts or videos that I didn’t have to watch, so like a game streamer or something.

[sage flicker]

yeah, I want silent but not mushy. I'm getting close to silent but mushy with all this lube. kek

but I'm getting used to it so all good.

no other keyboards have rapid fire and .1mm actuation so gotta make tradeoffs unfortch.

[supple belfry]

anyone know of good red and black keycaps

[untold wigeon]

Neoprene foam dampened the sound so much

I would rec

[sage flicker]

idk man, seems farfetched that foam underneath the plate, far from the switch is going to dampen the sound even further. Lekker is already in an aluminum chasis (or is it steel? lol).

[untold wigeon]

It really made a difference for me

[sage flicker]

even after lubing?

[untold wigeon]

Yea

5db ish to my ears

[sage flicker]

my sound is much quieter after lubing, i can't imagine foam going further than what actual silent switches would do. Oh really damn

is it easy to install? Just unscrew the plate and put it in?

what thickness did you use? And what dimensions overall so I know how to cut it lol

[untold wigeon]

Yea

[untold wigeon]

Its depends on the case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WDTFY9V?psc=1

@sage flicker What I have

My case didn't have much room so this worked

[brazen thunder]

someone did a cool mod where they did a silicone pour on the ends of the stem where it hits the bottom housing, dont remeber who it was but i believe that would probabaly silence them a lot.

[somber scroll]

Does anyone know of a decent guide to the different types of foam? It seems like there are tons of different kinds and I’m very curious how they would all make keyboards sound

[brazen thunder]

if im correct the only purpose for case foam is to make the sound “fuller” (not hollow) so i think most foams are good as long as they dont produce massive ammounts of static.

although foam that is made for sound dampening will probably work better with less of it. like acoustic foam or automotive dampening.

[sage flicker]

damn that would be sick. Could send over my switches to that person and pay them lol.

Doesn't Lekker board have foam already? Do I just replace that foam with this one from Amazon?

[untold wigeon]

Yea

[bronze grove]

Kind of yes, kind of no.

Different case design with a lot of small gaps below, no area for a full sized chunk of foam. More like small compartments.

[sage flicker]

ah ic, ok maybe I cut pieces of foam then and put em in.

[hot kayak]

Does anyone know if its possible to make the wooting gasket mounted into a case

Like the bakeneko 60

[unreal bear]

It's possible but you're gonna have to do extensive modding to do so.

[hot kayak]

In what way like making your own standoffs?

Or

Nvm

[edgy nexus]

@tall hollow sorry to bother again but is there a big difference between poron and sorbothane

[jade tree]

Hi guys,
I am looking for o-rings to use with the 60he stock.

• do I use mx o-rings?
• anybody know of any shop in eu/Germany that will offer a sample pack with different hardness and thickness?

Any other way to reduce travel length instead of o-rings?

[river reef]

@stray tiger Mekanisk got back to me and confirm it is 6061 aluminium

Heavy af for 6061 tho

[tall hollow]

Very slight difference.

[unborn quarry]

Hey guys how do I know if some switches I buy on the internet are compatible with my keyboard?

[drifting wing]

What Keyboard you got?

[unborn quarry]

an rk61

[tranquil flax]

im assuming you are referring to 3pin or 5 pin connector switches

[unborn quarry]

Whats the difference

[tranquil flax]

amount of pins on the switch

[unborn quarry]

Oh I see this one I found says 3 pin

[tranquil flax]

^

[grizzled path]

rk62 better

[unborn quarry]

so if the switch is either 3 or 5 pins I can hotswap it with mines %100?

[drifting wing]

The pic i send you is below the description of the rk61 in Amazon

Well i think what stand there is kinda legit

[tranquil flax]

except optical switches

[drifting wing]

So i suggest, yes u can put your 3 Pins on it

[tranquil flax]

but yes you should be good

[unborn quarry]

guys is outemu a good brand

[tranquil flax]

I like the honey peaches

Pretty damn quiet. Give zilents and u4s a run for their money imo

[unborn quarry]

what is the differnce between optical and mechanical switches

[sonic rune]

I’m thinking about modding my Wooting 60HE what is a good case that’s affordable?

[stray tiger]

One can see and one can't

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Difference+between+optical+and+mechanical+switches+

[unreal bear]

Simply put, mechanical switches uses metal contacts, when pressed allow current to flow from contact to contact telling the computer a key is pressed whereas optical switches emits light and when something passes through that light, that tells the computer that a key is activated.

[frail iron]

is the usb port on this case going to be able to fit the 60he? https://mechboards.co.uk/products/high-profile-60-aluminium-case?variant=40336364306637

[unreal bear]

The switch youre gonna decide to buy depends on the PCB you're getting and vice versa. Some PCBs only allow 3 pins and some allow 5 pins. 3 and 5 pin switches will work on PCBs with 5 pin slots, but you cannot put a 5 pin switch on a PCB that only has 3 pin slots. Most people prefer 5 pin switches because it has better stability.

[unreal bear]

It looks like it fits but can't say for sure.

If you wanna be sure about a case, there's a pinned post that contains a list of cases that are either compatible or incompatible with the 60he module.

[frail iron]

Ok i'll have a look thanks

[shell geode]

If you live in the US, the Baka60 is one of the cheapest aluminum cases for $50

[grave sorrel]

receiving mine soon but thinking about doing the same. but I can't find any vendors in Europe that have a 60% case. and most of the stuff in the compatibility list are already sold out of shipping from US or Ali.

[edgy nexus]

Klippe T

[arctic yew]

Wha type of o-rings should I get if I want to do a burger mod

is there anything specific i should look out for (size, thickness etc)

[unborn quarry]

I have an rk61 but dont know if its hot swappable or not on google it says there is a hot swappable and non hot swappable version of my keyboard

ive tried using a screwdriver to remove it but that didnt seem to work

[edgy nexus]

You look hot swappable

[jade tree]

I have the same question

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082SVFWCS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_T2XFWZCZEF9SKGPDEHJ0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D24WX77/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_735YW6GMYWA01N1ZZ0DF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 both will work

[arctic yew]

Thanks!

[unreal bear]

Is there a product number on the board?

Or do you have a switch puller?

[unborn quarry]

no I dont

[unborn quarry]

I see something called S/N = im guessing thats referring to serial number so that one?

[stray tiger]

@unborn quarry just take the PCB out and look at the underside of it. You'll know right away if it's hotswap or not

[unborn quarry]

I have no clue how to do that

[stray tiger]

How to take the PCB out?

Can you upload a photo?

@unborn quarry according to this video it's just some screws on the bottom - https://youtu.be/pzMdB_VKdNo

[unborn quarry]

ive tried pushing in a screwdriver there but that almost broke my keyboard

that kinda makes me think its not hot swappable but theres also the chance of me not doing it correctly

if only I had a switch remover

[tall hollow]

you can try to diy one. it may not be ideal but im sure it will work better.

[grave sorrel]

isn't that a import from
US tough?

[livid shard]

Anyone have an idea of how to get my stabs better?

Im not big into modding thus me asking

[shell geode]

lubing and holee modding the stabs, then lubing the switches will make it pretty smooth

[unreal bear]

Have you done anything so far with it?

[edgy nexus]

Idk i thought it was from europe

[unreal bear]

Yeah what is it.

[edgy nexus]

Yuzu sushi?

[livid shard]

Preciate That

[livid shard]

Nah they just sound so rattled all of a sudden

[shell geode]

No problem! I can post a clip of my spacebar later if you're interested

[livid shard]

That’d be cool

[shell geode]

Cool, I'll post later and tag you

[unborn quarry]

20210550

[tall hollow]

try lubing first, if that doesnt work then try holee mod.

[livid shard]

Aren’t they pre lubed?

[tall hollow]

its factory lube, dont expect to be too impressed lol

[livid shard]

Alr lol

I rly don’t wanna case swap so I’m hoping that I can make them better on my own

[tall hollow]

I see

[tall hollow]

case swapping is mostly for the looks lol

if you like the current case thats fine!

[shell geode]

You're just trying to minimize the rattle, right? If so, I would say re-lubing and holee modding would be enough

[stray tiger]

@livid shard start by lubing them and nothing else. The majority of Wooting users are happy with the result after just doing that.

[tall hollow]

for me it rattled again after a week

lol

[stray tiger]

For me it never rattled again and its been 5 months

Im a big fan of doing baby steps 1 by 1

[tall hollow]

I use my keyboard alot so could be how we use our keyboards.

[livid shard]

Cool

[stray tiger]

Or it could just be random coincidence, other mods, how often you change keycaps, pull your switches, change your stabs or any number of other things. Its always better to start with the basics and go from there.

[tall hollow]

it it could be that fact that im a spacebar slammer.

[stray tiger]

Or that haha

[tall hollow]

its just a habit ive developed for no reason lol

[somber scroll]

Theonlypointofhittingspaceisforthe SMACK

[tall hollow]

you can especially hear it when I play games

[tall hollow]

im sure im not the only one. (I hope)

[shell geode]

I hope you case swapped to an aluminum 😆

[tall hollow]

I will

once it gets to my house

[edgy nexus]

@tall hollow what did you order

[unreal bear]

Is there another number besides that?

[tall hollow]

FB60

[edgy nexus]

no clue what that is but sounds nice lol

[tall hollow]

keebsforall Freebird60

[edgy nexus]

any idea why the tofu60 is so much more popular than the Klippe T

[unborn quarry]

nope it says model rk 61 and rating 5v = 200

[unreal bear]

I might be wrong here but Im pretty sure tofu60 has been around a lot longer than the klippe t

[unreal bear]

Oof yeah, you really need a way to open up your keyboard.

[edgy nexus]

makes sens

[pastel pewter]

it was also way cheaper

[unreal bear]

This is also true

[half radish]

New keycap, this is the case I will be putting my 60HE in once I get a PCB

designed a second plate and have a top without the WKL blockers so the 60HE will work

[tall hollow]

noice!

also that s pretty funny keycap, 3d printed I assume?

[half radish]

yeah, resin printed by JLC PCB

[tall hollow]

nice, I have a few 3d printers myself lol

[tall hollow]

lmao

[half radish]

I have a few other random blockers, for fun, like a combined arrow keys for TKL and combined ins/del home/end page up/down key

[tall hollow]

lol

interesting

[frozen condor]

could you post a typing test so we can hear what it sounds like now?

[half radish]

you could also do neoprene between the plate and PCB for more silencing

[edgy nexus]

where did you get your foam?

[half radish]

need a laser cut sheet for that

[vapid folio]

Where can i get nice ISO German keycaps?

[quiet bay]

damn that is beautiful

[shell geode]

@livid shard I lubed and holee modded the stabs, and then spring-swapped and re-lubed the switch

[edgy nexus]

Plate?

It sounds so good

[shell geode]

Thank you! Its the Wooting plate, I just applied a vinyl wrap to cover the white, makes the board look darker

[edgy nexus]

Ahh

[edgy nexus]

It looks like carbon fiber thats why

[shell geode]

yup, its a carbon fiber vinyl

[edgy nexus]

nice

[somber scroll]

You spring swap with the 50cn spring? Or some aftermarket one?

[shell geode]

the Wooting 50cn 👍

[brittle yew]

Yo, anyone got good suggestions for a tofu alternative? Im looking to get a better case for this but I feel like everyone ends up going to the tofu, which is out of stock

[edgy nexus]

Klippe T

If its in ur budget

[amber sandal]

is it possible to o ring mount the wooting 60?

like the big o ring around the pcb not the burger mount

[edgy nexus]

Or else their are a few good alternatives if you scroll higher

[stray tiger]

Yes it is. Buy the medium size ones from graveshift

[lethal temple]

little teaser for you

[static tendon]

Looking for an opinion but would anyone here prefer the posidon60 or the freebird60?

[shell geode]

Im rocking the Baka60, and it's pretty solid

[steep needle]

Klippe seems good if you’re outside Europe and don’t have the minimum spend

[jade tree]

Anybody knows if there are any 3d-print models that one can use for the wooting 60 he?
I would like to print a case in a different color myself.

[crimson compass]

is there an aluminium/compatible case that we can ACTUALLY buy ?

i just looked for baka 60 : 84$ of shipping only to europe

[static tendon]

Does anyone have a preference over the Posidon60 vs freebird60?

Looks like the freebird60 can only fit 3 out of the 4 screws, might sway me away for that reason
Freebird60 - $78
Poseidon PSD60 - $59.80

Freebird60 - https://keebsforall.com/products/gb-freebird60-case-only?variant=40272334684318
Poseidon PSD60 - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801297436744.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.32ee5fa7SVhhSn&algo_pvid=3c297136-73f2-4717-94e5-9e84b7a17bb6&algo_exp_id=3c297136-73f2-4717-94e5-9e84b7a17bb6-11&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!59.8!59.8!!!!!%40211be17616810021403952153d07b0!12000016293856925!sea!US!0&curPageLogUid=eXNw3LF9HlxZ

[jade tree]

Any pictures of 3D-printed mods for the 60 he? I am wondering if people get clean prints at all.

[river reef]

What do you by 3 out of 4 screws

Im pretty sure all of them will fit

[static tendon]

When putting the wooting 60HE PCB into the freebird60 the stand off screws fit 3 out of 4 screws

[river reef]

Standard tray mounting standoffs

What makes you say that?

My baldr60 has exact same screw standoff positions

And its fine

[static tendon]

It will fit. But won’t fit all screws. This guy talks about it at about 4 minutes and 30 seconds into the video https://youtu.be/e8Y2KBkz1sE

[mental hemlock]

the freebird says that it's o ring tray mount

is there a difference

[static tendon]

I saw another reviewer mention it as well. It’s why some people thought you couldn’t fit the wooting 60 he PCB into the case initially. But it is on the wooting compatibility list

[mossy nexus]

I could fit all 4 screws to FB60 - required the longer screws and board to be exactly in right position. Also USB port height alignment took some time. Maze64 on the other hand was a 110% perfect fit in every way.

[untold wigeon]

do you enjoy the baka60? it looks good. Do you have pictures of your board fitting?

[static tendon]

I believe all wooting compatible cases will be tray mount style. The o ring mount is something the case adds to provide a more dampened typing feel. Less finger fatigue on the tray mount style case

[mental hemlock]

what case would you go for if you could start again

[mental hemlock]

ah i see

man id take it then if they had it in gray\

[static tendon]

Mmm not sure quite yet. Initially I was leaning towards the freebird60 but kinda iffy on it now

[river reef]

I think he just didnt adjust properly

[mental hemlock]

should i bite the bullet on the psd60

only 2 left in stock

[static tendon]

He’s not the first reviewer. It’s possible it doesn’t fit flush. So I guess it would still work just 3 screws would fit instead of 4. Should be in all honesty but it does add some concern

[river reef]

If you guys want rounded edge theres also psd60re clone

That have no logo on case

[static tendon]

It’s a good case. Can’t go wrong with it. If you order now and you’ll wait the long shipping time. I like the case overall. Very popular case swap option. Probably the most common choice

[mental hemlock]

i wish i could just make my own

haha

[river reef]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0gG44s

[mental hemlock]

so its not so hollow in the inside

[static tendon]

I prefer the square edge personally

[mental hemlock]

do you think a more hollow case makes better sound since it lets sound escape

[river reef]

Thats a preference thing

[mental hemlock]

or something like the tofu with the depth would work bette

r

[static tendon]

No, hollow cases sound clacky and cheap. But you can fill it with foam to help deepen the sound. Most people don’t like the hollowness of cases. That’s why there are many mods that come to these cases and overall in the keyboard enthusiast world

[river reef]

Klippe T is always a choice

[mental hemlock]

That's what makes me want to buy the Klippe T so bad, but it's so pricey.

[static tendon]

Tofu’s aren’t worth anymore in my opinion. Discontinued and resellers could really up charge the price. There are some alternative options such as the Poseidon60 which I think are a great option

[mental hemlock]

yeah we spoke about it lol

[static tendon]

Good choice but pricey. Especially the shipping

[river reef]

I just bite the bullet and got a fjell

[static tendon]

You did have a good point with shipping. I believe it was like 40$ or something

[shell geode]

I like it! It's thinner than other cases, which is perfect if you're looking for a thinner profile. I'm waiting on the PSD60 to compare

[zinc hemlock]

First time lubing and changing case. Had some old thin foam. Sounds pretty good. Case is a BGKYPRO GH60 Aluminum and the stabs are FL CMMK Plate Mount Stabilisers V3

[untold wigeon]

i was gonna get that case. was it worth the wait?

[zinc hemlock]

Well, it’s for you to decide so here’s a sound test. Switches lubed

The pcb is flush with the case, only problem is I need more lube lol

[untold wigeon]

https://paramountkeeb.com/products/paramount-keeb-60-aluminium-case?variant=36130326151329 is this 100% compatible with 60he ?some1 knows?

nvm delivery its 3x the cost of the case

[void abyss]

[shell geode]

Yup, but dang that shipping is crazy high

[untold wigeon]

exp[ensive af

[sage flicker]

50cn springs with lots of lube i'm actually getting used to. Doesn't feel mushy anymore and much quieter than before.

guess I just keep this until silent switches exist for Lekker lol. 2 lazy to put in foam.