🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

Alienate your users

[junior ore]

because some of them use different code.

same reason as windows and mac use different stuff.

and other operating systems.

[cursive summit]

So troubleshooting becomes harder cause linux isn't even linux compared to other linuxes

[junior ore]

same as windows and mac

it doens't become "harder"

[cursive summit]

Last I heard cmd and powershell from 2000s is pretty much the same as current day

[junior ore]

and so would any other linux distro from them that would still be running today. somethign like fedora or redhat.

or debian.

from back then*

[cursive summit]

Except you have to dig for your very specific distro if you don't use something popular

Cause commands for some reason are changed

[junior ore]

thats just called choice dude

you have to dig around to find your drinks at a gas station.

[cursive summit]

That's called cursed design

[junior ore]

dude its the same fi you went to a different fuckign operating system.

you seriously expect mac and windows to run the same shit?

or literally all computers?

like

what the fuck

[cursive summit]

So linux isn't even an OS at this point

[junior ore]

you know some people have custom operating systems

for machine and factories rifght?

dude i'm blocking you. i'm done with your trolling.

done with time wasters.

[cursive summit]

Jeez he gets offended fast

I'm not even trolling to be fair

[astral haven]

Ok storytime
My most recent Linux experience

Remotes into the management interface of some hardware that is running Linux
Apt-get update
Command not found
Yum update
Command not found
Ls
Works
Rm -d "some directory" doesn't work
Sudo Rm -d some directory
Command not found
Wtf

[cursive summit]

APT GET UPDATE

HAH

Had the same shit in Mint

[junior ore]

did you ask what it was running?

[cursive summit]

Not even something simple as updating and installing your shit is unified across distros

[astral haven]

Docs say custom version of rhel

[junior ore]

like, did you try uname -r ?

oh if its custom it could be anything.

cause, you know. the person made it whatever.

[astral haven]

Nope I just gave up and threw it on my shelf

[junior ore]

that's not the fault of linux in general. thats just not standardization.

[cursive summit]

Windows: need something? Install an application

Linux: need something? Make your own distro

[astral haven]

Aka being fragmented

[junior ore]

thats not it being fragmented.

theya re their own entirely separate things.

[cursive summit]

I'm not convinced he knows what fragmentation is at this point

[junior ore]

thats liek saying windows is fragmented because it has like 15 operating systems :V

[cursive summit]

Except the difference is you have 1 main OS for Windows

[astral haven]

"Definition of fragmented
1: broken or separated into distinct parts"

[cursive summit]

And shit ton of different ones for linux

[junior ore]

yeah and : its not broken nor it is separated.

[astral haven]

So why didn't sudo exist?

[junior ore]

because someone didn't want standardization.

that whats called a choice.

someone went : "yeah I want it this way not that way"

[astral haven]

And thanks to that choice, it is fragmented

[junior ore]

yeah so if I change the settings on windows, thats fragmenting too?

what about those people that edit windows installers?

people edit window installers to avoid installation of bloatware. that fragmentation?

what about the people that make their own Service Packs?

[astral haven]

If you have access to an admin command line on windows, the basic commands are always the same

[junior ore]

i bet you can get them changed.

[cursive summit]

The linux user mentality

If it exists, it must be changeable

For no apparent reason

Cause people hate people

Cause picking up a "linux user manual" is not a thing, and you need to look for a "Distro X user manual"

[junior ore]

anyways. I've used windows for over 25 years, and shy over half a year of linux. So far things are good stable and smooth comparatively after deciding which distro I wanted to keep.

I see no zero issues and am going to continue to use it.

[cursive summit]

Linux peeps fail to understand the reason Linux fails getting adopted in mass markets literally the fact there is no unified resource for what we consider linux

Everything works differently and that's the issue

[junior ore]

except you ignorant asshole is that linux is more widespread and literally runs your fucking internet

[cursive summit]

Sounds cute, will install a distro later

And prolly then have to spend 30 mins fixing a simple issue cause it just doesn't work

[junior ore]

only if you have nvidia-intel hybrid chips because intel was assholes in making that and didn't want to share or make it easy for anyone.

though there does exist Optimus alternatives... its still annoying.

[ashen spindle]

Hold up a what chip

[cursive summit]

Quintosh ain't you a german laddie

How long do you sleep to be awake at 4AM

[ashen spindle]

Well I just don’t wake up early but wtf is a intel Nvidia hybrid chip

[cursive summit]

Not something I heard of before

I heard of AMD-Intel stuff, like the one they put into a NUC before

[junior ore]

nvidia laptops are typically paired with Intel CPUs and they have software/firmware (my brain forgot) called Optimus that runs along with their usual engine software to manage cpu and display settings, but nvidia also has their own control panel as well. But Intel's Optimus is an automatic thing where it will make sure to switch between using the CPU and GPU to ensure energy and battery performance. cause, yeah, if you aren't gaming on your laptop it really sucks to have the battery die in an hour.

i wasn't meaning, like, physically hybrid chip*

my bad.

am tired, its late.

[ashen spindle]

Ok so just a normal laptop and nothing hybrid ok

[junior ore]

yeah.

software/drivers are 'hybrid'

but not the chips.

if you have a intel-nvidia laptop : linux is a pain in the ass.

its workable, mine works after fiddling.

my normal desktop was smooth.

but the laptop, nvidia intel... yeah i admit that was a pain in the ass because of the need of optimus alternatives

[ashen spindle]

Have that combo and Ubuntu ran just fine. Had a lot of issue but they were not related to the hardware

[junior ore]

your ubuntu came with an option to switch between cpu/gpu?

for laptop?

[ashen spindle]

Nah it’s an older model no optimus or similar for it

[junior ore]

oh. then yeah probably no issue then.

more modern machines, like, gtx 10 series and up

def have optimus*

[astral haven]

Advanced Optimus does use a mux built into the GPU
So it is physically hybrid chips

[junior ore]

oh wow really?

[astral haven]

Yup

Still doesn't work in linux

[junior ore]

oof.

nvidia isn't known to play nice with linux anyways

as a company*

[astral haven]

Back in my last job tho, a customer brought in a budget gaming machine that had a physical mux in addition to Optimus tho
It was like $1200 and you could switch it in bios

[junior ore]

and probably their driver support

[astral haven]

Nvidia's distro works great lol

[junior ore]

his issue was it was stuck to using just the cpu?

[astral haven]

No the issue was they got a new computer and wanted the data transferred

It was just a neat thing I noticed
Machines that cost less than 2k can have physical mux chips

[junior ore]

i honestly do like the idea of APU chips. in theory. They have gotten much better overall.

i once had an issue where a client was having issues with their PDF/Book/Comic reader. but specifically for one of their software. others were fine.

I had a hunch, cause those are graphical software, that the issue was intel's settings. I check both intel and nvidia's control panel and most assuredly : the software was assigned to use just the cpu for rendering graphics. quick switch to the gpu solved it.

[astral haven]

Yea now it's built into windows

[mild dome]

I recall Linus Torvalds got fucking mad at Nvidia because they kept jerking hum around when he was trying to implement their code into Linux, so he just didn't

[junior ore]

wait, the techtips guy? ( don't know hisn last name)

[astral haven]

No

[junior ore]

oh, main developer of linux kernal.

my bad, am not good at names I am.

[wheat plume]

Wtf

[halcyon moss]

nvidia on linux sucks balls

it works most of the time though

but ugh...

[wheat plume]

It's ok for me
But I can't use plasma desktop

Cause after a while games crash and the desktop freezes until I force a reboot

And even now on gnome desktop
It's really laggy when moving windows around but it's smooth af in games and when I use OBS to record

[halcyon moss]

i fixed this by disabling optimus

[ashen spindle]

yeah that just sounds like it uses the igpu when it shouldnt

[halcyon moss]

even the igpu should be able to drive the desktop normally

[astral haven]

its likely a buffer issue

btw modern optimus is implemented by microsoft

so its probably not optimus...

[halcyon moss]

or am i expecting to much from a i7-8750H ipgu? that it cant drive a 1920x1200 and a 1440p screen?

[astral haven]

can confirm it really can

even capable of light games

[ashen spindle]

well different resolution screens might be an issue because, lol intel gpu drivers, but I was mostly thinking it might either limit the powerdraw the igpu gets or maybe it switches back and forth so that causes lags

[astral haven]

nah
ive got a 4k and 1440p monitor at home here and the workstation work lent me works great

the 1440p is a 120hz even and still no problems

[halcyon moss]

intel drivers are usually quite good on linux

[astral haven]

the problem is it falls to linux to interface between the igpu and the dgpu

[halcyon moss]

likely

and i blame nvidia for fucking that up

with any evidence :p

[astral haven]

probably what was happening was the dgpu was rendering the thing, then copying it over to the igpu was being slow somehow

[halcyon moss]

probably did not help either that it was usb-c displayport daisychaning 😉

[astral haven]

thats on the hardware to deal with

[halcyon moss]

next laptop is going to be the other camp :p

[ashen spindle]

arm laptop pog

😛

[astral haven]

i was thinking amd but tbh my work devices have been super stable

[halcyon moss]

heh, arm does not exist yet outside of apple

[astral haven]

i hope for orin based laptops eventually lol

[halcyon moss]

( I know them do Quint, but not at the performance / compatability levels i want them to be )

[ashen spindle]

oh I wouldnt want an arm laptop for quite a while, apple aside

cba dealing with even more software issues because its not tested as long or doesnt exist on arm yet

and not like x86 is worse for laptop or anything

[halcyon moss]

docker

which is only "solved" since a short while on apple m1/2

[fair gull]

i thought docker was on rpi

[halcyon moss]

yes, it is on arm, but there are issues with mixing arm and x64

[ashen spindle]

*x86

[halcyon moss]

lol, no one is using 32bit anymore

[fickle ore]

When windows 128 bit?

[halcyon moss]

never

[fickle ore]

8-----)

[ashen spindle]

yeah well, technically it's just x86_64 since x64 alone just means its 64 bit but that would be accurate for itanium as well etc.

im just being pedantic

[halcyon moss]

yes

[ashen spindle]

but if I'm waiting another hour for this compile to finish I might as well be pedantic

[halcyon moss]

no office chair jousting?

[ashen spindle]

bit boring in home office

[halcyon moss]

no kids to toss around?

[ashen spindle]

well there sometimes are neighbours with kids that are really annoying but they are silent so I cant track them down currently

[halcyon moss]

bugger

[fair gull]

thats why u get an acog for your co2 powered pellet gun

[ashen spindle]

no im against guns, this way I have motivation for workout so I know I have enough arm strength when it gets too annoying

[fair gull]

well id rather not punch fighting cats in the night

so i usually shoot at them

[halcyon moss]

i'll spray neuter and declaw you

in my what now?

[wheat plume]

I don't think I have Optimus
My cpu doesn't have integrated graphics

[wheat plume]

I like this record player

[reef patrol]

That gives me anxiety.

[little raptor]

Testing new mousepad today.

[wheat plume]

that mouse looks like it weighs the same as grain of sand

[little raptor]

It actually weigh 1771 times more than a grain of sand 😊 Give or take

[wheat plume]

:')

[fair gull]

the zaunkönig is one of those way too light mice

[ashen spindle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-amf-encoder-quality-boost

now we just need obs to include it and finally thats not longer a reason for nvidia

though the mystery why amd doesnt push it harder is still there

[little raptor]

Nah, it's too heavy actually, but they're getting there.

[fair gull]

its way too light lol

[little raptor]

What mouse do you use?

[fair gull]

g100s

just the right weight

and nice smooth movements without the rubber feet

[little raptor]

To each their own 🙂

[fickle ore]

It'd be fine at 20g without cable

The cable adds a bit

[little raptor]

Play Wireless

"Wireless"

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-love-lucy-okay-idk-gif-16447471

[fickle ore]

Everything >50g is toooo damn heavy

[little raptor]

Ye, it really is. There will still be those people that like it, but objectively they are putting them self at a disadvantage or they play Tactical shooters.

[fickle ore]

Higher weight is good for games u dont need high reactivity, since more damping --> stability

But yeah

[ashen spindle]

500kg mouse is ideal for xcom

perfect amount to make sure you find those damn magic pixels to hit both with a grenade and not just one

[wheat plume]

FEDORA

https://youtu.be/Z0m12drbnLQ

<3

[frozen ingot]

m'lady

[wheat plume]

m'os

[crimson wigeon]

It's reasonable to think of it as the default, or standard, or whatever, since it's what Linus Torvalds allegedly uses

[wheat plume]

tips thinkpad

[fair gull]

debian ftw

[wheat plume]

wait

Linus uses Fedora??

[crimson wigeon]

Why not

[wheat plume]

nice

[junior ore]

whats your thoughts and opinion of the debian side of linux in general? I've been in favor of Arch but I'd be up for hearing what people say of other branches.

[fair gull]

idk just runs damn fine and while some tools are "dated" in sense of being a year or so old releases in the main repo

i havent had a singular crash or anomaly in running debian the past 8 or so years

[ashen spindle]

yeah my debian server still runs no issue

though I should update it... its still debian 8

[wheat plume]

Von, they only use Linux for server usage, ofc they use Debian for that, its the better option xd

[ashen spindle]

no for work I have my ubuntu vm

[junior ore]

best to not assume, lahnah :P tis why I asked.

but yeah i hear debian used frequently for that

[wheat plume]

I know that Tony only uses Linux for server use for sure xd

[junior ore]

i don't >.>

[fair gull]

i use debian on my laptops aswell

my old t60 thinkpad

brick to kill people with

and safely browse the web

[wheat plume]

Yes yes xd

[fair gull]

with 2giga chomps of ddr2

[junior ore]

t60. classics.

[wheat plume]

but...most important question, does it have the nipple?

[junior ore]

I want the old lenovo that has the pop-out mouse.

[wheat plume]

pop-out mouse
🤔

[junior ore]

it has a literal little mouse that pops out on the side

[fair gull]

there was someone making replacement mobos compatible for the t60

but with i7 10th gen

and shit

[wheat plume]

o.o

[fair gull]

https://www.xyte.ch/t700-crowdfunding/

11th gen

[junior ore]

nice

[fair gull]

love dat 4:3 aspect ratio

and the chonk battery that sticks out the back side

[junior ore]

yisssssss

I have an black IBM CRT still

[fair gull]

got 2 of those obviously

in general im just a stickler for debian

be it server or desktop

[junior ore]

understandable

[fair gull]

all my linux vms and wsl2 install is also debian

[junior ore]

used to it, works for you and found to be reliable for you.

[crimson wigeon]

It's the ol' reliable

[fair gull]

its reliable ya

i copied my disk content to like 4 different servers by now

[wheat plume]

ok...how many of you agree that amber is the best color for monochome CRTs?

[fair gull]

and upgraded through a few major versions

still runs fine

pretty sure im still on 9 tho

[junior ore]

the arch distro I went with is rolling release. So, it's kinda wild west and its possible to run into something not super stable. I wanted to chance running into issues to have more chances of real troubleshooting experiences with linux.

[wheat plume]

wait....

there are non rolling Arch distros?

[junior ore]

Manjaro is curated.

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/o15vcvo7zvgs.png

[wheat plume]

Oh yeh, that shit

[fair gull]

beauty

[crimson wigeon]

Curated more like held back 3 weeks and still breaking omegalul

[fair gull]

11 actually

ngl

when the shit did i upgrade

[wheat plume]

yes

this

[fair gull]

spooky shit

can i find that out somehow

linux people assemble

[junior ore]

Manjaro was my first Arch and I do like it, its nice and all. or it was, idunno how it is now.

[wheat plume]

^ same for me

I then tried ArcoLinuxB and stayed on it

[junior ore]

i'm currently on EndeavorOS. Which doesn't have the issues of Manjaro and tries to focus the user towards using the terminal more for package management and stuff. so no Software application-thinger

[wheat plume]

Arco comes with Manjaro's pamac GUI for package management

[fair gull]

is there a command to see when a file was modified

[wheat plume]

which is the best thing to come from Manjaro tbh

[junior ore]

there should be a command to see when a file is modified. fuck if I know. I;'m too scrub to remember. I used to know my bash stuff and GREP but i forgot all that months ago >.<

[crimson wigeon]

stat

[wheat plume]

yeah, stat works

[fair gull]

wasnt there also a file in /etc that states distro

ngl shit i never used

will help solve my mystery

[crimson wigeon]

ls -l also shows it

[fair gull]

na i wanna see when it was modieid

[crimson wigeon]

/etc/os-release

[fair gull]

to know when i upgraded

27th of march wot

thonk

[fair gull]

OH i remember

i upgraded cause i wanted a sort of up to date system before forever moving away from my webhost

and entirely selfhost

[wheat plume]

ANSI_COLOR?

ANSI_COLOR=
A suggested presentation color when showing the OS name on the console. This should be specified as string suitable for inclusion in the ESC [ m ANSI/ECMA-48 escape code for setting graphical rendition. This field is optional.

Examples: "ANSI_COLOR="0;31"" for red, "ANSI_COLOR="1;34"" for light blue, or "ANSI_COLOR="0;38;2;60;110;180"" for Fedora blue.

[cursive summit]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-gpu-launch-delay-geforce-3000-oversupply

Honestly, not even surprising

I'd get my card used than new

[ashen spindle]

"sources" close to youtuber that says a lot and has not a great leak trackreckord mention publically known info of oversupply

[cursive summit]

New 3070s are still 640 euros

Whereas used are close to msrp

[ashen spindle]

yeah except that is msrp sorta

[cursive summit]

Eh, European taxes and stuff

[ashen spindle]

more like usd to eur rates are not the same they were on release

[reef patrol]

I saw a 3070 for almost twice that today. In a retail store.

Basically what I paid for my 3080.

[pale sigil]

Went to view iPads today

iPad pro 11" is so smol

[reef patrol]

It's eleven inches INNIT GUVNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIYvPNtWZ34

[pale sigil]

Was waiting for this one

Lmao they actually blurred it

They didn't for shorts

[reef patrol]

Nintendo are VICIOUS when it comes to claims.

[pale sigil]

Aye

@spiral belfry drop dat floatplane version baby

[spiral belfry]

What's it called?

[shadow minnow]

To me 14” MBP seems so small

[junior ore]

They blurred it?

Fucking cowards

Sue nintendo for that shit

They could actually fight back being big enough

Now the smaller crowd continues to suffer

[ashen spindle]

yeah they could sue back and get the result that they can use it and had to waste fees

great idea /s

they arent big enough to cause DMCA law change for that

[frozen ingot]

they posted a literal haxxing guide, having it blurred is just a stroke of genius to guarantee nintendo has nothing

I bet they'll be even saltier for that

[junior ore]

Its

Not illegal

Its illegal to dmca strike people for having an emulator

Nintendo is the one commiting a crime. At least within the USA

It is illegal to use copyright takedowns on fairuse

Youtube is simply a platform that allows abuse with no consequences.

[reef patrol]

The problem is - you gotta prove that in court. Against very expensive lawyers, while paying for your own.

[ashen spindle]

also its not directly illegal to use if you can argue you thought it might be in your right

[frozen ingot]

why even throw them the slightest bone they might think they have a shot at winning

even if they don't

[pale sigil]

Struggle is fuckin real

[shadow minnow]

Just like with my phone storage

Which reminds me that if I wanted to take a raw video at full res with this camera the almost empty sd card would be full in less than 5 minutes

[ashen spindle]

man the used market really is taking a nosedive lololol

[pale sigil]

Have I mentioned how garbage steam os is

And oh btw is capped at 75hz on any external monitor

[ashen spindle]

english please

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle there

[ashen spindle]

that sounds like either steam os is borked or your setup

why would it be capped

[shadow minnow]

Still not

[pale sigil]

Steam os

Confirmed it with multiple peeps

It's also only just added scaling

Literally in beta

[ashen spindle]

yup

[pale sigil]

Honestly

Steam os is so shit

Outside of the gaming ui anyway

[astral haven]

iOS is even more shit outside of the apple ui

[shadow minnow]

Sure

Sureee

[shadow minnow]

Yes
I am sorry
In my defense it’s 1 am

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow that's a lie

It's 12:53

[shadow minnow]

Oh this is the dumbest thing about 12 hour time

Why go above 12?

Just call it 00:53

It defeats the whole point

And it being 12:53 am

Confused me even more

If it was pm

But this makes me think it’s time after well 11am

[pale sigil]

1000000% agree

I just try to be considerate

[astral haven]

On any other device there wouldn't be an option to see the base os
iOS is basically a web browser in terms of access to the hardware...

[shadow minnow]

Lol highest iso on cannon R5 is a little little bit noisy

[astral haven]

I'd hope so

I need my 2m iso option

[final flame]

Anybody know how to get a corrupted file off of a cdr, Bottom file I could get off but the top file is being stubborn and even trying to import into audacity or audition wont work

ugh

[fair gull]

is that

unstoppable copier

[fair gull]

if its cdr try to clean it with a microfibre cloth and some ipa

[final flame]

I don't think that's the issue, it's very scratched

yes it's unstoppable copier

[fair gull]

id still try to reclean just incase

if its scratched ur almost fricked anyway

best shot would be using exactaudiocopy if its audiotracks

ot would at least copy the audio errors at the right place

if ure really lucky eac can use the crc tracks to correct errors if they arent too huge

[spiral belfry]

I'll download it today and share 😘

[ashen spindle]

great start of the day when I look at the changelog to see why a project doesnt open and its because someone hardcoded a path for a plugin

[crimson wigeon]

Why wouldn't you have the plugin in the standard path

[ashen spindle]

because hardcoded in this case literally means instead of a version the json had a string to c:/HisUserName/project

[crimson wigeon]

Yes that is now where everyone's expected to have it

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc-9000-genoa-processor-lineup-leaks-out-up-to-96-zen4-cores-and-360w-tdp

[crimson wigeon]

MORE CORES

[forest plume]

When making a Windows installation

Do I make an ISO file or an Installation Media? Like whats the difference?

[reef patrol]

The ISO file is just that. A file. You'll have to do something with that afterwards to get it to do anything.
Making installation media is where the installer downloads the ISO and turns a USB stick INTO an installer USB stick for you (8GB or larger - everything on it is wiped)

[forest plume]

Ah Ill just do that

I have a extra USB stick laying around so its fine

New PC soon :))

[crimson wigeon]

WhY nOt WiNdoWs 11

[forest plume]

Win11 overrated

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/pgcjc2/windows_11_lost_features/

[mild dome]

I want the gaming features in Win11, but I am not a fan of how everything has been removed without fixing some of the major Win10 problems (Like how settings is kind of split between "Settings", and Control Panel. Really thought those would be unified properly by now). Really feels like they rushed it out the door, which they probably did in order to:

1. get PCs using TPMs to increase security
2. Beta test an unfinished OS, rather then finish development in house
3. Get Intel's version of BIG.little working

[shadow minnow]

I still don’t see how is TPM really gonna help security

[forest plume]

I would love to use Win 11, its just that a lot of actual useful features were either lost. Or some were never fixed (Like you said, theres still 'Settings' and 'Control Panel' while those should be unified.)
Check that reddit post I sent, Apps can no longer customize areas of the Taskbar why? Ive been loving TaskbarX

Also this

[fair gull]

as a displayfusion user i cant complain

[pale sigil]

Windows 11 is fine

[fair gull]

by encrypting your drive with bitlocker ofc

[reef patrol]

Anti piracy.

[pale sigil]

Am bloody sick of printers

this stupid ass printer has a separate drive for scanning

[reef patrol]

That's normal.

Printing is often using a shared, standardized driver. Scanning is still proprietary and fucked up.

[shadow minnow]

Windows user issues

[astral haven]

Mopria supports printing and scanning
If it's not driverless now its on the manufacturer

[pale sigil]

how the actual fk is that Windows specific

@shadow minnowhere you apple hoe

[shadow minnow]

If you got a mac you wouldn’t have money for a printer and thus no printer issues obviously

[shadow minnow]

Correct OS order

[pale sigil]

which aint bad if they bloody provided it without the shitty software suite, thery offer one for printing but not scanning

without going through their bloat

[astral haven]

Try skipping the software and installing it directly in windows

Alot of printers have driver packages but don't need them

[pale sigil]

i tried

[astral haven]

Rip

[ashen spindle]

cant do that because I use the free ink tier of hp

and I might scream and kick the thing but I will make sure I wont pay for ink so they wont make a penny from me

[astral haven]

Nah
You can run driverless and the webui

Definetly a pain tho with the instantink models

[pale sigil]

this is a shitty canon thingh

im glad it was not paid for

uni give it to my sister as part of a disabled package

seems cancer gets you some perks in uni

finally

[ashen spindle]

no its the same thing

read it carefully

nothing changed

[pale sigil]

i dont see the issue

i dont need a facebook account

im ok with meta/oculus account

i just dont want a profile and shit on facebook

[ashen spindle]

ah yes because a meta account is definitely not a facebook account

[pale sigil]

i mean as long as im not on facebook.com

i dont give a shit

and risked getting banned for making a profile with a fake name

[ashen spindle]

did you read the meta account ToS to be sure thats not the case? xD

[wheat plume]

meta is facebook

[pale sigil]

no shit lana

[wheat plume]

so they are still getting the data

[pale sigil]

-_-

I dont care about that

My issue was always having to make a facebook account to login to oculus

now i can just do what i used to with my oculus account.... not need a public profile etc

Don't be treating me like a moron who doesn't know what meta is -_-

[wheat plume]

but you still need to use a real name?

[ashen spindle]

oh right, it was the EU that ruled people can make fake accounts so in the UK you couldnt realy on that ruling

[wheat plume]

lemme check

LOL

[pale sigil]

my main issue was always being forced to make a public profile on facebook.com with my real name etc.... i dont mind making a private account even if its meta shite.

I just dont want A FACEBOOK PROFILE

[wheat plume]

yyeesss

[pale sigil]

And neither did i want to make a fake name FACEBOOK PROFILE with the risk of getting banned.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME

[wheat plume]

my messenger profile is techincally a fake name

[pale sigil]

They are getting my data anyway, not like valve dont collect date etc

i dont want messenger either

[wheat plume]

same....

but I must .-.

messenger was the ONLY app that the college used for the society group chats and news .-.

[pale sigil]

i had to use it for stag/wedding stuff

[reef patrol]

Us grown up millennials use it for social events 😛

[ashen spindle]

oh nvm it was germany not the eu that ruled facebook has to keep fake name profiles so I'm good if I dont get a deckard in time

but at the same time that might causes it to be eu wide at some point

[pale sigil]

Also feck off with Brexit shite

i never chose it and yes UK is shit, get over it.

Not like you guys have a smooth history.

[ashen spindle]

doesn't change anything when I did think it was a EU ruling?

[pale sigil]

Clear dig at the UK everytime you can

lol

[ashen spindle]

im not used to german rulings that make sense so I thought it was an EU ruling

well it was a dig since in that case that literally would've been the reason why a fake account would no longer have worked

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-fat-thor-thor-odinson-godof-thunder-thunderer-gif-14341833

[ashen spindle]

tbf I kinda dig at everything everytime I can, not my fault uk is going close second to the US

[reef patrol]

We're just collectively bullying you into moving to a proper, european country. With a healthcare system that doesn't have a two party political system. And people who talk actual english.

[deft umbra]

Need to give away my wooting two red flaretech in garage or it need go in waste pm ty

[pale sigil]

ffs

THIS GOD DAMN PRINTER

[reef patrol]

Fuck you no cyan toner.

[pale sigil]

PIECE OF SHIT

Like serious

it tried to be smart and crop my documents

and now 10 pages auto fuckin cropped

[pale sigil]

cut off so much shite

[wheat plume]

I dont get how Pixel phones always have software issues

as bad as they have them anyway

Google make Android ffs, how do the mess up Pixel OS?

[pale sigil]

Ok good

i can change the default profile

[wheat plume]

I approve the profile name

oooooo

Preview channel on Steam Deck

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol oi nerd

can i make a scan macro

this is painful

[pale sigil]

aye, beta has the most interesting thing atm

[mild dome]

Colour printers are often designed to use a tiny amount of colour even on B&W pictures for a few reasons, sometimes it's to create finer lines, but mainly it's to use yellow to create a nearly invisible code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

[wheat plume]

I wonder if this is the high pitched fan or not?

the ones you can get on ifixit

[mild dome]

You might need to look up the brand
Or pull a Linus Tech tips and add a heatsink to your switch Deck

[crimson wigeon]

That looks like the huahuyiniaing logo, so the good fan

[wheat plume]

how tf you say that brand name

[mild dome]

Like this dog probably

[wheat plume]

:')

[crimson wigeon]

Huaying

couldn't remember the name ecks dee

[wheat plume]

ecks deez nutz

[spiral belfry]

@pale sigil Sorry for being slow, had to sort shit out today: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7mhuksmy9einlqa/How To Legally Run Switch Games on the Steam Deck (1080p).mp4?dl=0

[wheat plume]

OMFH

legend

that URL
not legend

Thanks, Dropbox with your obnoxious URLs

[spiral belfry]

Oh if dropbox kills it, I have it on my storage server and I can give a shorter link and it will work, but slower downloads

[wheat plume]

ooofff

[spiral belfry]

For now.... currently waiting for my 1gbps internet line to be installed

XD

But I know dropbox hates many people downloading without paying for it, hence why if it kills it, I will just upload it to my public side

[wheat plume]

my gosh

[spiral belfry]

Anyone else got any floatplane videos they want to watch? 😂

[wheat plume]

floatplane?

[deft umbra]

1gbps ingernet im my country is like 200$ per month while 500mbits 60$ but I noticed all servers just download on 100mbits max KEKW

[spiral belfry]

I am claiming on the government grant to get it for £80 per month

[reef patrol]

Linus' paid subscription alternative to Youtube.

[wheat plume]

oo

https://youtu.be/AEkzWP6lTBo

[reef patrol]

Oi - I posted that when it came out 😛

[wheat plume]

🤔

I dont see

[wheat plume]

xd

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

I thought he said "lube your house"

instead of housings

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-vincent-sqeezebottle-gif-20194825

[wheat plume]

the keyboard for TWM users and streamers alike

TWM: What is a mouse?

OMFH HE ACTUALLY WENT TO RAZER

[wheat plume]

OK MY MIND IS BLOWN

KDE CONNECT IS SO OP

I can use the media controls on my mouse to control media playback on my phone and therefor on my Google Nest cause im using the Nest as a wireless speaker currently

FUCK YEAH

[shadow minnow]

I don’t see how is that anything special really

[reef patrol]

...yes?

[shadow minnow]

Well AirPlay

[wheat plume]

I just used the pause button by habit on my mouse and I heard my Nest stop playing and OMFH xd

[slow garnet]

Today in Canada: Rogers has a nationwide outage. Why does this matter? Because Interac (debit) relies on them. Wanna make this even worse? Interac does have a 2nd backup... which is also Rogers. 10/10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGDpuxuBByE

TL;DR they put all their eggs in a basket, and as such, no one in Canada can really use debit... Except people using RBC apparently. Idiots. Credit cards work oddly enough.

[crisp granite]

yep

I noticed

kinda funny tbh
especially having your backup be the same thing as the original

the options are "this works"

[slow garnet]

It's not even a backup at that point

It's more like having a 2nd path.

[vast moss]

dang, that sucks

[crisp granite]

yep
no beer for me today
rip

[vast moss]

Hey, kinda of dumb question, but is adding an RX 5700 XT to a system running a Ryzen 5600 and RX 6800 too much for a 750W PSU? I think it'd be nice to have a second GPU for encoding or other workloads, but I don't want to have to upgrade my PSU to do it

[crisp granite]

should be fine

emphasis on "should"

[ashen spindle]

what are you planning to do since any form of dual gpu is kinda sketchy aside from workstations

[vast moss]

(although I suppose I might have to anyway, because I don't have enough PCIe power connectors left to add another card)

[crisp granite]

I'd undervolt said cards a bit so you aren't redlining it

[crisp granite]

yep, you're getting a new PSU

daisychaining and splitting is a NOPE

[vast moss]

I was thinking that with a second card, I could record PC gameplay, render a video, or maybe play with 3D models, or run something like F@H without pinning the one GPU (although with a Ryzen 5600, I could maybe do a lot of those tasks on the side without much issue)

It's not the hugest deal if I shouldn't get one, just thought it might be cool

[ashen spindle]

yeah that sounds like you should keep it at one gpu and if anything sell both and get a stronger one instead

[fair gull]

get an actual capture card

[ashen spindle]

in theory that sounds logical but if you do something in 3d you still need to pass it to the gpu that shows it and all, so for normal desktop use I'd refrain from using dual gpus

[vast moss]

noted, thanks

I already have a 6800, so perhaps I could stand to upgrade that, or just live with what I've got

[ashen spindle]

also extra heat that makes it a bit harder to cool the other card so fans get louder or it gets hotter

[vast moss]

I'm two cheapos in and both falsely advertised their capabilities
I have a pricier (but more trustworthy) one coming in now

[vast moss]

that's true

[ashen spindle]

and if you do want to upgrade, next gen is coming in Q3/4

[fair gull]

just go elgato or whatever

do the hdmi passthrough and youre good

[vast moss]

I got a Hauppauge HD PVR Pro 60 because it supports UVC and has standalone recording

[fair gull]

also a good brand

[vast moss]

I thought so. Doesn't seem to be as well-known, but I heard about them years ago and thought I'd check there recently to see what they offered

[fair gull]

they are rather well known in germany

[vast moss]

I already have an Elgato HD60, but it's not UVC nor supported on Linux. The former doesn't matter as much, but the latter is pretty much integral

[vast moss]

I see. I'm from the US, so I'm a little less versed in the popular brands across the pond

They're HQed stateside, though, so I suppose it's not too much of a stretch to know about them

[fair gull]

weird i thought they are even more poppular in their home country

[vast moss]

you don't see them around a lot. most people mention elgato, but hardly anyone seems to talk about hauppauge

[fair gull]

i mainly know them for pc tvtuner cards

[vast moss]

They have a lot of those. I'm not in that market, though, so maybe that's why I didn't hear a lot about them

I first (and in fact only) did years ago when TWD98 used one of their cards to make his videos

[fair gull]

as a windows pleb im happy with elgayto

especially with my hdmi switch

[vast moss]

that's fair. It looks like Elgato has begun embracing UVC too, meaning Linux users can finally use their stuff. Might have been worth giving them another chance, but I thought if I could save at least a bit, it might be worth

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/9lVj_DZm36c

🤔

LenOwO doing some magic shit

[ashen spindle]

why what did they do

[wheat plume]

desktop CPU in thin af laptop

barely thicker than the HDMI port

[ashen spindle]

but its using a laptop cpu...

[wheat plume]

is it?

idk the intel letters, brb

[pale sigil]

Fuck Nvidia on Linux

[cursive summit]

Fuck Nvidia

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/07/musk-expected-to-take-drastic-action-to-break-twitter-deal-report-says/

[cursive summit]

Nice

More money wasted for the ultracuntamillionaire

[ashen spindle]

huh

[cursive summit]

Pretty sure I read somewhere if the bid doesn't go through, he still is forced to pay a pretty big sum

[pale sigil]

So basically

Elon talks big game as usual and doesn't deliver.

[cursive summit]

Also makes women pop out kids left right and centre

Mr. affairman

[ashen spindle]

well he might pay a fine but that depends on how they end up

if its a breach or if he finds reasons that are valid

as the article says

[cursive summit]

Maybe some peeps will realize their twitter idol is a buffoon

[ashen spindle]

nah they are too far gone

this is easily just ignored as "well he got wrong info so its not his fault"

[cursive summit]

As the very least

$TSLA might take a dump

[ashen spindle]

na

since he wont sell the stock for this now

[cursive summit]

If his whole goal was to sell off the stock like he polled for multiple times before

Might as well do it anyways

[ashen spindle]

would make sense and thus not likely that hes doing it

[cursive summit]

He's not that much of an idiot

[ashen spindle]

idk hes petty enough to ignore reason for things

[cursive summit]

Billionaire's life

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/btaylor/status/1545526087089696768?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Bret Taylor (@btaylor)

The Twitter Board is committed to closing the transaction on the price and terms agreed upon with Mr. Musk and plans to pursue legal action to enforce the merger agreement. We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery.

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[astral haven]

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/designing-arithmetic-circuits-with-deep-reinforcement-learning/
Holy craperino
25% more dense from their first attempt at throwing ai at this problem
And they did this for 13k circuits in the h100...

[ashen spindle]

yeah its impressive but also scary at the same time

[astral haven]

Yup
Our computers are too fast for humans to design

On the other hand these are simply individual logic blocks that are function complete, they are just making an ai speed them up

[frozen ingot]

elon backing out of something, that's a new one

[ashen spindle]

yeah for now its just logic blocks ordered in a better way, but this is how we start having technical debt that could end badly

[astral haven]

also no these are logic blocks
it is setting up the transistors to make the logic blocks better

[pale sigil]

ssd prices come far

[latent mantle]

How much is it now? 🤔

[pale sigil]

Usually 30-40

[latent mantle]

Holy heck you're right I got a 500gb ssd 870 Evo for 110 back then now it's 60 bucks

[amber tundra]

I heard wooting 60he is the fastest keyboard out there?

[latent mantle]

Yup yup yup

[amber tundra]

Idk man

[shadow minnow]

https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/wooting/two-he

This shows that wooting keyboards can already have a really low latency, while less keys on 60HE make it even faster

[thick elk]

They really don't like that it doesn't have a build in wrist rest though...

[shadow minnow]

Which is kinda dumb imo

[reef patrol]

Eh... I can see their argument. I like having a click-on wristrest instead of a loose one.

But given the materials in the wristrest you're unlikely to be able to do that without molding magnets to both parts - which cause concerns with switch calibration.

[misty saffron]

@neat oriole you know anything about speakers?

want a decent stereo pair for about $500

used is preferred of course

(dac/amp included in the price)

surely there’s something good that’s depreciated enough

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/70ukrAri1XA

🤔

the animations are pretty

The animations are OP and I love them...so smooth

[chrome estuary]

so it's a fictional os that uses a mix of design styles from windows 11, samsung dex, and maybe bits of gnome

ngl it does look nice and this little animation would've taken a lot of work.

[wheat plume]

(sadly, it only exists as this powerpoint presentation currently)

[chrome estuary]

wait this is a powerpoint presentation?

nice.

[wheat plume]

Even the animations in the desktop....when they open an image, it animates into the image viewer

[chrome estuary]

i assumed this was just an animation.

[ashen spindle]

so we dont even know if those animations would work like that

[wheat plume]

It seems to be, also someone in the comments mentioned it too

[chrome estuary]

yeah it appears to be, wow, i give the creator props for that.

i mean they could turn most of this into a DE for linux. but you could probably do all of this with current DEs and a few months of customization

[misty saffron]

animating app opening is a can of worms you don’t want to open

[wheat plume]

you might have to make a custom compositor for the desktop animations

and idk how tf you could make an image slide into the image viewer when you double clicjk to open it

[misty saffron]

guaranteed to be janky

[chrome estuary]

i mean i have absolutely no interest in trying this at all

i want a fucking titanium 3d printer, that is like the most badass shit.

[vocal cipher]

animations are nice when you first install, then you set a layout on your screen and keep apps running all the time, and you rarely see them anymore

even the background pic, I don't see it at all...

[neat oriole]

A tiny bit, although at that price you’re probably better off getting something like a jbl lsr305, they’re the best bang for your buck under $500

[halcyon moss]

For you @pale sigil

[pale sigil]

I was about to post this lol

But I don’t care about being loud

It’s the high pitch noise that bothers me xD

[halcyon moss]

Hehe

[misty saffron]

$300 for a used pair, sounds pretty good

i wonder how expensive a good amp would be, i could use my fiio k5 pro as dac i guess since it has line out

[wheat plume]

🤔

Chef is a strange strange esolang

nvm...Chicken takes the lead

ok...yes

[fair gull]

no? strange would be malbolge

[wheat plume]

no? difficult as shit would be malbolge

[fair gull]

if u mean impossible to code for as a human and only bruteforcing yes

thats smth id consider strange

[wheat plume]

TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL! is also a strange esolang

It has different rules and instructions sets you cannot use each day

one day you must have 14 character long variable names and cannot use for and the next you can use for but not while

its so neat

[frozen ingot]

not to mention how fucking noisy PCs used to be back in the day

like it wasn't just the fans but hard drives, floppy and disc drives also made a ton of noise

[wheat plume]

dafuq is revolt?

is this a modded discord, cause the UI sure looks like it

[crimson wigeon]

https://revolt.chat/

[wheat plume]

so...its not Discord mod

but the UI is an exact clone of it

hmmm...ok

[fair gull]

nonono

the ui is an exact copy AND their API is almost an exact copy

[wheat plume]

oh

[fair gull]

also who knows what they actually collect

[pale sigil]

Not like discord is entirely original

[fair gull]

how so

[pale sigil]

Slack

[fair gull]

well

yesnt

slack looked quiet different back when discord came out

[reef patrol]

Slack is light version Discord, except everything is threads not conversations. And people just CAN'T fucking figure out how to use it.

[wheat plume]

Ive figured out Slack

logging in is a different story

[pale sigil]

But have you figured out the wooting slack?

[wheat plume]

I havent used Slack since third year of college

Cause we had to integrate the Github bot into the Slack thread so it sends a message when there is a commit to the github repo

[frozen ingot]

slack has a horrible UI for casual chatting

its designed for workplaces and it shows

[pale sigil]

Anyone know a good pdf editor tool

[slow garnet]

You can use GIMP if you just need to use it for checkmarks and writing shit, otherwise, no clue.

Also TFW a website prevents you from using their search functionality unless you specify where you live... (looking at you Canadian Tire).

[sudden glacier]

edge browser has built in

[pale sigil]

TIL

[astral haven]

viewer not editor
the only edits it supports are on form fillable pdfs
its identical to the chrome one

[amber tundra]

U

[wheat plume]

wait...Pixel 6 comes with USB C earphones

nice

I wonder will the 6A too?

[chrome estuary]

Probably not. Or at least I'm going to be jaded and say no.

[wheat plume]

her screen protector doesnt cover parts of the corners.... I CANT UNSEE IT NOW

[shadow minnow]

[wheat plume]

oh...Android 12 teaches you how to use the gesture navigation when you do the initial setup

[cursive summit]

GESTURE NAVIGATION

lemao

[wheat plume]

yeah, its default now

idk if you can switch back to the 3 buttons or not
I assume you can

[cursive summit]

On new Pocos it's default on

Which is atrocious

Some of the most disgusting, unusable and confusing navigation I've ever used

[wheat plume]

how tf is it confusing? you swipe up to get home

and swipe from the edge to go back

[misty saffron]

no android rom has come close to ios gestures

unfortunately

[cursive summit]

Literally the problem

[misty saffron]

they are just unintuitive

[cursive summit]

Why tf would I swipe if I can press back key

[wheat plume]

...stock gestures are literally an exact copy of iOS

[misty saffron]

friend gives me his android phone

i don’t understand what the fuck he is doing to go back

[cursive summit]

Swipe controls imho, is a terrible idea

[wheat plume]

they are the same gestures, hollow xd

literally the same, at least on Xiaomi and google phones

[misty saffron]

ok no custom android rom

my bad

which is 90% of the market anyways

[shadow minnow]

Well idk I have been using them for like year and a half but feels like I have been using them for way longer now. Just becomes good once you get used to it

[astral haven]

yea buttons take up alot of space

[cursive summit]

Why would I torture myself with swipe if I can just use buttons

[shadow minnow]

Only thing that infinitely annoys me is Apple Pencil being unable to use swipe controls

[astral haven]

to get more screen realestate

[misty saffron]

vexx i feel like you just hate change

[wheat plume]

Yeah

[cursive summit]

True

But I also hate useless shit

[wheat plume]

ah

thats why you hate me

[cursive summit]

Well let's not go there Lana

I love you a lot

Useless shit

[wheat plume]

shush xd

[cursive summit]

But love you, truly

Not even joking

You are that special somebody

[wheat plume]

"special" indeed

[shadow minnow]

That’s locked up in callum’s basement

Or well one of them anyways

Apparently there are infinite of them

So no rescue mission I am afraid

[cursive summit]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/quest-vr-has-traded-facebookening-for-metastasis-with-new-account-system/

By Quest platform, surely they also include Quest 2

Not just the original

[shadow minnow]

Eh better than nothing I suppose

[ashen spindle]

the original quest already has facebook approved unlock that you dont need an account anymore, so yes

or was that the go

[cursive summit]

Wonderful, so it's for Q2

Wasn't QGo released in tandem with Q2?

[ashen spindle]

but yeah nothing really changes, meta still gets the same data and all

[cursive summit]

Unless you don't connect to internet like, ever

Mine hasn't been connected since I got it

[ashen spindle]

yeah just like with a fb account, so nothing really changes

its like saying google doesnt get your youtube data anymore because you now use an alphabet account

my guess its just a formal change to get ahead of laws that would require it to be separate and now it can be both a fb or a quest account

or they just dont want to keep the fb name to meta since they want to expand in other areas

[shadow minnow]

Well need of fb account does

It’s about fb being fb more than anything

Doesn’t really matter on YouTube

[ashen spindle]

what, how is a meta account different in that regard

[shadow minnow]

That you can’t be just found through Facebook where you are with your real name and everything.
Even if meta does require your real name still it’s better than having to put it out on a search engine. Like with Facebook

[ashen spindle]

you cant be found where you are and all on fb with just an account lol

its just the name, and its almost guaranteed others with the same name exist or that your name was already online in another platform or something

unless you have some elon musk son level name I guess

[shadow minnow]

Depends on the name I guess, in some countries lot of people have names no one else does.
But also it’s not like it’s usually hard to find out if person under the name is who you think it may be.
I suppose it doesn’t matter with really common names but when I search for my name only I come up for example

[ashen spindle]

but even if its a unique name, what comes from that, people know the name exists but what else do they get from that

if some other service gets your name and finds your empty FB profile, they know you have an empty profile

[shadow minnow]

I mean I can’t entirely speak from this since I am not the one who wouldn’t have an fb account but some people really didn’t want to make one.
Idk what all is there to it though tbf.

@pale sigil

[neat oriole]

They’re powered, you don’t need a DAC or amp

[misty saffron]

oh wtf that’s nice

[pale sigil]

i just dont want a facebook profile

idc about the data aspect for the headset

[spiral palm]

Hey quick question. I have a Corsair aio I was wondering if I could take the Corsair fans off the aio and put the uni fans on from lian li. Since they clip together would they not line up with the screw holes? Would the screws that you mount the fans onto the radiator not fit?

Just wondering before I drop 160 dollars on 6 of them

[neat oriole]

A dac wouldn’t hurt if your on-board is a bit scuffed/noisy. You’ll definitely need some adapter cables, the JBLs take quarter inch input

[astral haven]

yea they are amped
they are not digital

[neat oriole]

No but your on board has a dac so you can just feed analog from your Mobo into the speakers

[astral haven]

yap

[shadow minnow]

It should work, however not sure if I would recommend it, if it’s Corsair ML fans, lian li ones would have worse performance

[misty saffron]

on-board is definitely shit, i’ll just feed them the line out from dac. i wonder if they make quarter inch to rca cables though lol

indeed they do

[thick elk]

For me the biggest gripe with Facebook accounts was that my real name is public facing.
Sure if you need it for billing info that is fine, but really I want people to know me by alias and keep the search results relatively clean as you search for my name.

[reef patrol]

Facebook - Literally designed for REAL people to get in contact with friends and family.
I WANT FAKE NAME

[thick elk]

Well that's why having a facebook acount tied to a vr headset sucks

Of course as a social media platform it makes sense.
Granted a platform I want nothing to do with.

[reef patrol]

#DontBuyVRfromtheFacebookCompany

[thick elk]

I don't, but it was in response to the whole decoupling thing.

If it where not for the way facebooks worked I would not mind as much.
A google account would have been fine for example.

[reef patrol]

The Facebooking came first. Can't blame the social media platform for the pants on head retardation that CEO went with to lock a GAMING peripheral to a SOCIAL MEDIA platform.

Just don't buy it and move on.

[crimson wigeon]

BUT IT'S TEH CHEAPUST

[thick elk]

I still feel for the people buying into it before the coupling. Either way, I don't mind that much, I have a valve index, just a bit sour about the size of their ecosystem vs pcvr

[reef patrol]

Thank god for the EU and consumer rights.

[stark bobcat]

I'm pretty sure I saw something about Facebook accounts no longer being required for vr

[reef patrol]

Yep.

[frozen ingot]

yes that

apart from it being made by facebook period that's my only real gripe with the quest I had

for the money it just leaves everything else for dead

[thick elk]

The price will only continue for as long as it's shareholders are willing to let them bleed money on vr.
Still the VR gaming market is rather small so it may just dry up to niche status when that happens.

[crisp granite]

they should now be requiring another account that effectively is the same thing lol

Meta account

same shit

different name

[pale sigil]

Except its not

For a lot of people like me im happy with it because i dont need to make a PUBLIC PROFILE on FACEBOOK.COM for the world to see or MESSENGER, i can have a PRIVATE account like they did with OCULUS, yes they take my data but so does valve etc, fuck Facebook or well META but im very happy with this change.

[ashen spindle]

I mean I understand that I just still dont understand the issue of an account having your name when nothing else is linked to it

[pale sigil]

As in you dont understand why i care for having a public profile?

[ashen spindle]

if you just make a profile that has your name, no pictures no info etc.

what could anyone that isnt facebook get from it

[pale sigil]

I just dont want to be on Facebook (as in the social media site) and the problem is META flag you.

Ive seen many cases of people doing exactly what you say and Meta locking the facebook account an people having to go through hoops to get their oculus stuff back.

[ashen spindle]

so then the issue is not the fb profile but arbitrary banning of it

which yes hopefully should not be an issue with meta accounts

[pale sigil]

I just wanna keep using my legacy oculus account

Now it can become a meta account aka oculus account v2

[ashen spindle]

so if the banned account wasnt a factor, it being a fb account instead of meta would be no issue, correct?

[crisp granite]

tbh, if I can make a burner meta account to use the headset and buy a few games, not bother with the horizon shit, not get my entire life and self observed through the fucking headset, I'd be happy

[pale sigil]

No because you will turn around and say its the same thing anyway

[ashen spindle]

but not its not I'm just trying to see if there is another reason

[pale sigil]

I just dont want a profile on facebook.com, its as simple as that tbh.

[crisp granite]

only issue is...that isn't happening lol

[pale sigil]

you can with the meta account, just not facebook

well, facebook.com profile

you cant make a burner on there and use for the headset

[ashen spindle]

by saying this I clearly show that I dont think its the same, just wanted to know if there was another reason because I still dont see any privacy issues that are greater than with a meta account

[pale sigil]

Aye, basically i dont care about the data whore aspect, i just dont want a public profile on Facebook :p

[ashen spindle]

thats not really my question but I feel like we're not getting anywhere

[crisp granite]

Cal, no offense
I really don't fucking trust facebook either way

[pale sigil]

haha did i ever tell you about the fact i did exactly this and they asked for a copy of my passport to get unbanned?

Because i didn't have any profile pic etc

[crisp granite]

one of the many reasons I'm waiting for deckard

[shadow minnow]

Sounds like old GDPR rules wouldn’t like that

Especially in Germany
But well Facebook doesn’t care

[ashen spindle]

not sure why gdpr would be against it

[crisp granite]

likewise
but I take issue with a fucking headset reporting some really personal shit
even for data whores
like fucking eye tracking patterns and room dimensions

[ashen spindle]

as long as you dont use unencrypted data you are very well in the right to require ID for things

[crisp granite]

the headset naturally would get the latter and use it for...headset things

but you don't need to report all that back to the mothership

[pale sigil]

I didnt send them my ID, i told them to piss off.

[crisp granite]

seriously
no company should need your ID for a social media account

[pale sigil]

Was in my real name too, i just never posted, had a profile pic etc

[crisp granite]

at all

ever

[pale sigil]

I forgot about this till this convo haha

[crisp granite]

email, password

that's it

you get nothing more

[frozen ingot]

facebook be like if we're not allowed to make detailed charts of your entire life and your family tree we'll pull out of the EU

[pale sigil]

After loads of ranting guess what the result was.

[frozen ingot]

we're warning you!

[pale sigil]

I really want you to think hard

About how they approached this

Because i promise you wont guess what happened.

[crisp granite]

that would only make me want to move back to the motherland even more lol

[crisp granite]

they just fucking unlocked your account

after you told them to fuck off

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

Worse

They made a new account with my email with my name, completely new fresh account, but they also unlocked my old account which i could login to via number only.

[crisp granite]

...

WTF

[pale sigil]

I deleted them both the same day

xD

[wheat plume]

the new Plasma window tint is pretty neat

[crisp granite]

good

but that entire thing is just...

no

that's not how you do things

[pale sigil]

ugly

I did feel a little bad for telling someone to piss off

in the end of the day they are just doing their job xD

[crisp granite]

should have just fired off an email to you explaining what bullshit reason they need your face for
and otherwise saying they will delete all accounts you have otherwise

I know I'd personally respond a lot better to that than what they did to you lol

[shadow minnow]

Pls make desktop image rounded corners

[wheat plume]

Plasma doesnt do rounded corners by default

;-;

[wheat plume]

FIREFOX
Y U NU GLOBAL MENU????

[wheat plume]

Im trying to make a Window Rule to force the Breeze Dark titlebar on all windows, but its not working..

[crimson wigeon]

Why not just set it as the default then?

[wheat plume]

I love the floating panels <3 <3 Thank you, Nicollo

[pale sigil]

I tried them apple headphones the other day @shadow minnow

legit sound awful

[wheat plume]

what ones? Airpod Max?

[crisp granite]

airpods max...

heh

ngl they do sound hella nice and fit pretty well too

I just struggle to justify the 780 CAD before tax

[pale sigil]

they sound awful

[wheat plume]

o.o they cost that much??

[pale sigil]

muddy af too

[shadow minnow]

They don’t, even professional reviewers say they don’t. They aren’t the best but comparable or a bit better than other wireless headphones like whx4 or whatever

But well sound is subjective

[pale sigil]

no reviewers say they are ok and average

reviewers are also mostly morons

tbf my main issue was bass

they do not handle it well at all

Anything with bass they sound horrible

crazy good noise cancelation tho

was kinda trippy

[shadow minnow]

But audiophiles disagree

[pale sigil]

except they dont

ye ok im exaggerating a bit

But the bass is shit and the rest is pretty alright

but you are correct about subjective

better of with HD6XX which are a fraction of the cost