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pale sigil
empty wren
Surely but not a pleasant experience to navigate using the steam deck controls
ashen spindle
that reminds me linus mention on wan show he managed to brick yet another linux install after he did it that one time for the series 
he bricked a pre installed ubuntu laptop
pale sigil
that reminds me linus mention on wan show he managed to brick yet another linux ...
i saw that too xD
worse than me
o.0
ashen spindle
yup its starting, they gotta clear out inventory in the next 3-4 months
chrome estuary
what is it with sony and making it so fucking easy to install hard drives/ssds
it's removing one panel and removing one screw to get to the expansion bay on the PS5
ashen spindle
well they dont lose anything from it and rather makes it so you are more likely to enjoy their product and buy more games etc.
so its in their interest to keep it simple
empty wren
Depends what version
pale sigil
11
empty wren
Makes sense
empty wren
That game is well optimized as it is
empty wren
This is why ai upscaling exists
wheat plume
Yeah...
You don't get the special features on windows
wheat plume
Yes
empty wren
That makes a ton of sense
empty wren
Honestly probably unnecessary on windows anyways
ashen spindle
dont need fsr in the os just in the games
empty wren
Exactly
pale sigil
i need a bigger drive
wheat plume
Most games don't have it in the settings
empty wren
i need a bigger drive
Just go to local drive bank and rob it
empty wren
256gb is like 8gb
SD card?
wheat plume
Is there any reason to get a portable SSD over a portable hard drive? Since USB isn't fast enough for SSDs
empty wren
Those are probably more attainable and you can keep less used stuff on it
pale sigil
Ngl I'm not a fan of the deck ui
empty wren
Is there any reason to get a portable SSD over a portable hard drive? Since USB ...
Probably not at usb 3
pale sigil
Is there any reason to get a portable SSD over a portable hard drive? Since USB ...
Every possible reason
empty wren
Now if you do an internal swap that is different story
pale sigil
Now if you do an internal swap that is different story
It's cheaper for me to do this
Vs SD card
empty wren
Really now
slow garnet
Just get an SSD and use a SATA adapter. Don't buy an "external SSD"
empty wren
Alright then
pale sigil
Just get an SSD and use a SATA adapter. Don't buy an "external SSD"
That's what most people refer to
wheat plume
Just get an SSD and use a SATA adapter. Don't buy an "external SSD"
Still must connect it to USB
pale sigil
That's what I'm doing... I have a few SSDs spare I wack into a Sata to usb caddy
slow garnet
yeah here that's not at all, people think external ssds are different than regular ssds
empty wren
<:mage:612454509603717140> yeah here that's not at all, people think external ss...
They are fool
One goes inside you another goes on your head
wheat plume
I wish I had spare SSDs
pale sigil
@empty wren it's like 130 for a 1tb 2230 Vs 150 for SD card
if i can get an sd card on sale id get one though
empty wren
Yeah alright I see your point
ashen spindle
supposedly this time they almost only do amazon products so maybe not
pale sigil
oh really
empty wren
Honestly who knows waiting does not murder anyone
pale sigil
maybe i should get this totally legit one
empty wren
<@297518817930772490> it's like 130 for a 1tb 2230 Vs 150 for SD card
Also this is same sized sss right?
pale sigil
Also this is same sized sss right?
1tb sd vs 2230
empty wren
Ah okay last part is the size
pale sigil
yes
empty wren
Is there like one port on the steam deck for ssd
pale sigil
another option is getting 2x 512gb SD cards....
empty wren
Oh nevermind then
pale sigil
also yes only one m2 slot
wheat plume
What's this about??
empty wren
another option is getting 2x 512gb SD cards....
Those are like 120MB/s
pale sigil
you can cram in a 2242 butt that brings issues
pale sigil
Those are like 120MB/s
deck is capped at 100
empty wren
oh well
ashen spindle
you could watch the video and then know what its about
wheat plume
No
empty wren
What's this about??
Stuff
slow garnet
from the desc:
Arm CPUs are taking over. Apple Silicon showed us that desktop computers need not be power hogs - Why haven't AMD, Intel, and Nvidia done the same, and would you want it?
my guess: they're saying build a regular amd/intel pc before arm takes over or some nonsense
empty wren
Oh
slow garnet
also chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:53 PCs are great, but...
2:05 They still run on old tech
2:53 Intel and AMD are in trouble, but that's a good thing
5:27 Contracts, monopolies, and Qualcomm's failure to compete
6:32 PCs have already taken the first steps to change
8:14 Arm's advantages are integrated
10:10 Arm chips can go bigger
11:19 Conclusion - This is going to suck for enthusiasts
empty wren
Yeah because heat generated by modern stuff and inefficeny
slow garnet
regardless, fuck them for clickbait titles and content
fickle ore
I'll believe when I see it
empty wren
And apparently the speaker mentions how in the future it would be better for companies to sell soc
Which is hard to replace
So throw away
And buy new one
pale sigil
i was also looking into chopping up a longer nvme drive
empty wren
empty wren
Okay so that is safe to then
wheat plume
from the desc:
Arm CPUs are taking over. Apple Silicon showed us that desktop co...
Pretty much yes
empty wren
What's this about??
Oh and how we could get more competition cuz apple Google Samsung (Qualcomm sucks)
slow garnet
surprise surprise all companies suck
pale sigil
from china concerns me
pale sigil
everywhere just does not have stock any,ore
slow garnet
wait don't you have a nas
pale sigil
i aslo looked for ssds i could chop up
pale sigil
wait don't you have a nas
yes
slow garnet
you could network drive it, as shitty as that is
pale sigil
you could network drive it, as shitty as that is
Steam Deck
slow garnet
so what? unless i'm missing something here, it should be possible regardless, no?
slow garnet
oh right... it being portable... yeah kinda forgot that's a major selling point of the device.
pale sigil
but also
slow garnet
still possible though, if you have an unlimited data plan I guess
slow garnet
whatever works for you ¯_(ツ)_/¯
pale sigil
ngl
fucking love the profile perks
for having a deck haha
they look so nice
Another idea was using a mount
lol
omg
pale sigil
That looks like a fucking IED
5th Nov is coming up soon 
wheat plume
What?
pale sigil
Guy Fawkes Night
wheat plume
I suggest we use guillotines
shadow minnow
Remember remember
This 5th of November
I am sure you will
Of revolt be member
Sky will turn red
Politicians fled
Nvm too many spoilers already
Wikipedia knows as well
reef patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yudWXta6dM
Man that is a clean looking project.
wheat plume
Saw it!
wheat plume
junior ore
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah want muh steam deck soooon. i think i might get the email this monday
pale sigil
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah want muh steam deck soooon. i think i might ...
i hope you do
Lana wont tho
poor gal
wheat plume
r00d
pale sigil
Maybe ill let her play with mine || when she plays with me ||
wheat plume
👀 shhhhh
how tf
you remove this shit?
The about:config fix isnt working for me on firefox
crimson wigeon
#worksforme setting full-screen-api.warning.timeout to 0
wheat plume
Legit did that
crimson wigeon
But it's not..
crimson wigeon
You just made a new variable callled full-screen.api.warning.timeout = -1
wheat plume
oh, it worked now
crimson wigeon
Disgusting
fair gull
ya disgusting console u got there
empty wren
ya disgusting console u got there
Psvota running wondows
thick elk
How does it differ from Krunner
thick elk
Kind of feels weird that Microsoft never really pushed the concept themselves
then again their search is borderline useless so it probably wouldn't bode well
wheat plume
you can get a krunner-like search in Windows using MS PowerToys
but yeah, its just the same results as the search in the start menu so meh
thick elk
On plasma it's also the same search as the start menu one.
Still there is a difference between hiding the option somewhere and pushing it.
wheat plume
krunner has more features than the search in kickstart menu
you can do web search and spell checking and currency conversion etc etc
thick elk
Both the search in application launcher and krunner use the same backend, so you can do currency conversions in the start menu as well.
wheat plume
really???
I dont have plasma desktop installed so I cant try it
here is Powertoy's search
I hope winget gets more apps in the repo
its super handy
I used it to install Steam LOL
winget install --id=Valve.Steam -e
pale sigil
um ok
I must be obsessed with Reddit
Because google says that top domain is reddit
wheat plume
shadow minnow
then again their search is borderline useless so it probably wouldn't bode well
Ngl I tend to lay by apps from spotlight rather often, almost always
With windows search bar sometimes just fails me
Like cinebench
I have three versions
Search can only find two
And doesn’t tell me version
thick elk
I always use krunner on linux but yea on windows I still use search just doesn't work that well, launchy used to be better in the past but I don't use windows enough for it to matter nowadays
shadow minnow
Tbh I only ever use windows for gaming and when in Slovakia
empty wren
https://youtu.be/Wuq7lS9rljw
Not all of them caught fire smh
shadow minnow
Atm only thing my windows pc is better at than MacBook I have with me is ssd speeds too 
wheat plume
LOL
cursive summit
Best fingerprint scanner is a finger up your cat's bum
If it aint the owner it ain't unlocking
Approved by Shane Dawson
cursive summit
I'll remind you of it
wheat plume
plz nu
cursive summit
He came on his cat
wheat plume
I KNOW SHUSH
cursive summit
He also said he didn't put his wiener anywhere near his cat
But he probably did
but that's okay
It's not like the cat said no
wheat plume
-.-
wait a sec
oh yeah, youtube rounds sub count now to 1 decimal
phones with a mix of physical and touch buttons...
why
make them all touch or all physical
empty wren
You mean capacitive
empty wren
It was just easier to do
Plus the htc 10 had a fingerprint scanner
That was indented
Pretty sure that button is not even a real button either by the way
But it certainly looks like one
wheat plume
it is
empty wren
I honestly do not 100% remember
But I remember someone letting me use their htc 10 for a while for a project
Since they upgraded to the iphone x
pale sigil
oh yeah, youtube rounds sub count now to 1 decimal
afaik the API number is real time right, no rounding up.
Its just the visual counter on the website that rounds up
empty wren
Should be but possibly delayed
wheat plume
ah, back in the day when yotube videos had like 15 second intros that annoyed TF out of me
pale sigil
ah, back in the day when yotube videos had like 15 second intros that annoyed TF...
May have introduce you to rick kackis
wheat plume
o.o
I mean intro animations or c utscenes
not just talking xd
its really annoying when you dont realise the UAC prompt needs to be clicked on in the taskbar to make the thing you are waiting for to install is stuck waiting for you
wheat plume
how would this card compare to my GTX 1660?
ashen spindle
dont buy any gpu before next gen cards are out
wheat plume
look....I just want to swap to AMD
asap
cause im sick of dealing with laggy broken drivers in Linux
thick elk
I would say there is an argument to be made that cards furder down the stack may take some more time to be released.
But € 500 is still a lot to pay for a 6600
ashen spindle
well I didnt say wait and get a next gen card
current gen will drop in price
even if the equivalent tier is not out yet
wheat plume
I doubt RX6600 is current gen?
if its 500 euro
well, it does have a lot of vram
and pcie 4
soo
thick elk
you could probably buy a cheap flight to the mainland, buy one there and still have money left over.
ashen spindle
no thats just normal prices for most of them anywhere since prices are still not back to normal
thick elk
I am seeing them starting at € 360 ish in the netherlands
ashen spindle
well yeah its high price+ irish cost but not only the latter
thick elk
I'd say at dutch prices it could still be worthwile, I don't think a new gen of gpu's is going to shake up this price bracket that much in the next 6 months or so.
But at € 500 that's a different story.
Especially since the main concideration is not performance.
ashen spindle
it will go down because even if only upper end is released, that will trickle down since people will sell what they replace and that pushes down even to lower end
thick elk
I am not denying that, but it's still a factor of time, especially if you don't plan to go used. and € 50 to € 100 less does not have to be a game changer.
ashen spindle
also personally I just dont think its a good idea to upgrade right before a new gen comes out if the card isnt broken or so
well, used does also force the prices of retail to some degree and sure 100 less isnt insane but still 1/3 of msrp so its relative and depends on what you can afford
thick elk
I still regret not jumping in when this gen was still fresh, even at inflated prices, my situation is such that it still made sense.
Now I am just waiting it out as it's really too late to buy a 6800xt / 6900xt now.
My gtx 1080 really does show it's age and linux drivers for nvidia are just a pain in the ass at times.
ashen spindle
ok but thats not the same situation 😛
thick elk
Just a side note, indeed not much to do with lana's situation.
I do really understand the Nvidia driver pain though. It just doesn't work that well on linux.
ashen spindle
which is why everyone back then here suggested to get an amd card for the build ¯_(ツ)_/¯
thick elk
Which would have been the right choice
The thing with nvidia is, on the surface as long as you don't use wayland it should be fine.
Over time you will notice it just is problematic to work with.
wheat plume
in game, I have no issues with the nvidia drivers
but the desktop is so laggy with them installed
moving windows around is a stuttery mess
even recording games with OBS using the NVENC encoder works perfectly
ashen spindle
well then it sounds like the cheaper option would be to change to a linux version that works better and upgrade to amd later instead of paying 500 to have a lag free desktop lmao
latent mural
does anyone here know how to edit videos
wheat plume
well then it sounds like the cheaper option would be to change to a linux versio...
yeah, im using gnome desktop cause it works better with nvidia
cant use plasma....despite really wanting to cause it has a lot of problems with nvidia drivers and making things crash and freeze
ashen spindle
well new gen is probably starting to come this quarter to wait till then is what makes the most sense
wheat plume
he calls himself high tech ..
although, his PC hardware is far better than mine..
sooooo lol
junior ore
how would this card compare to my GTX 1660?
not worth the price
not for that kind of upgrade at least.
500 is still over the normal price
just wait for normalization of prices
pale sigil
Prices are never normal in Ireland
Imagine crying about prices while living next to a country who loves the word exit
wheat plume
got 3 texts from my phone carrier this week about upgrading to 5G
I can barely get 4G at my house....why TF would I upgrade to 5G?
reef patrol
Imagine having to upgrade to it subscription wise.
wheat plume
its an extra 10 euro per month
reef patrol
Here you get what your phone supports. (Well technically you're also limited by what your carrier can offer, but you don't pay extra for any kind of Gee)
wheat plume
my phone doesnt even support it
ashen spindle
usually cheaper plans exist that limit it, for prepaid and such
reef patrol
My new one does but it's not really of use. Signal coverage for it is terrible here and all I use my phone for data wise is news sites and spotify.
ashen spindle
also they send you the option since they can only know you have 4g not what your coverage is nor where you would use it
wheat plume
yeah
im on prepay, I cant even get phone upgrades from them no matter how long ive been using them
reef patrol
Prepay? You mean like refueling it with credits?
Man... haven't seen one of those for a decade here. Those are only for our middle eastern immigrants trying to phone home...and criminals on burners 😄
wheat plume
I have to go to a store and get a 16 digit code to top it up each month
or I can call the automated phone line and use my card there via phone
reef patrol
Yikes.
reef patrol
NL, DE and FRA are usually the main hubs, depending on company.
wheat plume
aha
pale sigil
https://youtu.be/W1qb7m-xs50
This isn't a meme
wheat plume
why does he put keyboard sounds on every syllable he speaks
its so bad
only for intro...
60HE is worse than apex mini cause the keys are lighter
wut...
he did put it into the God Tier keyboard rank though
60he, apex mini and the steelseries one LOL
wheat plume
Samsung hmmmm
crimson wigeon
Mmm ROMA Laptop, I do indeed want a web3 friendly craptop
reef patrol
<@158168189300244480> look new phone
Fancy.
I don't know shit about phones
ashen spindle
yeah its a waste on the one hand
on the other, if nft scams want to waste their money on riscv and make the ISA bigger? I'm all for a good waste over a bad waste of money
crimson wigeon
But why do that when I can do web3 console gaming https://polium.com
vocal cipher
that was very common in fact for fast sd card readers
crimson wigeon
It's a horrible thing from what I've heard
wheat plume
well, it is horrible
vocal cipher
yeah
wheat plume
and this guy is trying to use this drive on an xbox
LOL
with adapter...
and then wonders why the xbox complains its not fast enough
vocal cipher
you are doomed if you loose it 😄
I have only one and its tied to the thing it's used with
they shouldn't have done it detachable 😄
wheat plume
its a 2TB drive
and works fine on their Playstation
idk what playstation it is though
reef patrol
wtf port is this??
It's USB Type-B Micro
wheat plume
🤔
reef patrol
mo speed.
vocal cipher
they should have added type c there too, to make type d
wheat plume
He lives in UK, yes
wheat plume
expensive?
pale sigil
expensive?
Opposite of expensive, the issue is it isn't avail in my area.
wheat plume
oooohhh
ashen spindle
given the signal power I doubt its the guys connection
pale sigil
1gb is £35 a year atm
reef patrol
Biiiiiiitch
pale sigil
Well
For the first 2 years
After that it's £60
Just say you wanna leave
It's poper fibre though
ashen spindle
poper
pale sigil
Fire me
crimson wigeon
POPER FIBRE M8
wheat plume
oi m8, oi gawt popa foiber here
pale sigil
Oh ffs
wheat plume
💜 wuv u
pale sigil
I'm tired
empty wren
looks like 2 micro USBs welded side by side
S5 had that
wheat plume
found an easy way to find the mAh of a laptop battery
assuming its running Linux
4400mAh
thats less than my phone...dafuq
crimson wigeon
Yeah it's ARM and we all know ARM makes it better
wheat plume
nah, my phone struggles to do the gesture animations smoothly
wheat plume
i aint paying like 30000000 for a photo editor
fair gull
i aint paying like 30000000 for a photo editor
ya cause we all deffo paying
reminds me of xperia play stock rom ICS... laggy af but was the phone made for MC PocketEdition
all the adverts were about it... but it was unplayable
crimson wigeon
Cinematic experience
wheat plume
odd
GIMP needs to run from a console window that opens when you launch it from start menu
crimson wigeon
Because it's a development version
reef patrol
lul linux bad
fair gull
why arent u just installing it like a normal person lol
astral haven
4400mAh
Amp hours is not battery capacity
You have to multiply by voltage, and your phone is 3.7 where your laptop is probably 18.5
fair gull
a feature prob no one used lol
i hate always on top
the only thing i found it useful for was taskmanager
wheat plume
hmm
it puts a thicc border around the window you activate it on
color picker is nice
shadow minnow
it puts a thicc border around the window you activate it on
That’s horrible
The edges
Are
Not
Round
On the border
That is not a nice color picker either
wheat plume
this shows up after you pick the color
this shows under your mouse cursor while picking it
final flame
i hate always on top
I use it quite often actually, good for stuff like notepad and calculator and stuff you don't want to be alt tabbing into
final flame
That’s horrible
you can change the border size and color
final flame
it even can make a sound if activated
the color picker is nice but it has 1 flaw, it uses the color profile on the monitor for color
from the color management app
instead of using just the actual RGB monitor values
wheat plume
o
crimson wigeon
That shouldn't do anything bad unless it's really crappy
empty wren
Nothing bad would happen in that case since it would be using the charger for power then
If you were heavily using the laptop and charging it that would be another story
ashen spindle
leaving a laptop on the charger for longer than it needs does absolutely no damage
wheat plume
oh ok...good
thick elk
Older laptops do continuously try to top up the battery ,resulting in heavily degraded batteries over time though.
wheat plume
Dell's UEFI sucks .-.
but at least it works with touchscreen so I dont have to use the jank touchpad movement in it
thick elk
I am mostly talking about more budget laptops from roughly 10-12 years ago yea. I guess I'm getting old.
ashen spindle
I know that feeling 
thick elk
Oh fuck even further back, my laptop from 2011 also works just fine
ashen spindle
30in a few years, good as dead
thick elk
30 right now in my case
ashen spindle
was good knowing you before your death
thick elk
💀
ashen spindle
idk what I'm looking at, did you install some viruses on your steam deck?
fair gull
b
pale sigil
idk what I'm looking at, did you install some viruses on your steam deck?
Windows icons
ashen spindle
sounds like a virus still
ashen spindle
if that arrived at 100% and one charging caused it due to your scary house
would be funny ngl
pale sigil
SteamOS sucks balls
wheat plume
How's the battery health gone down already??
ashen spindle
terrible product, dead on arrival
mild dome
No comment
ashen spindle
!remind me in 2 weeks when he managed to kill his deck
pale sigil
was using obs
im quite surprised
i thought it would shit itself fps wise streaming
tbf it shouldn
shouldn't surprise me
shadow minnow
if that arrived at 100% and one charging caused it due to your scary house
Few charging cycles and you don’t have a battery
empty wren
Weird the maximum capacity is so jumpy
I mean to be fair it is not too far off what would be a year and half average loss in capacity
Df
That is horrendous
shadow minnow
That is horrendous
Probably just missreported values
halcyon moss
nice, i got the 21u
halcyon moss
Weird the maximum capacity is so jumpy
thats because at best its a guestimation
shadow minnow
Why does mail app on iPhone struggle so much with loading attachments smh
wheat plume
Android does not have a way to find your device if you lose it unlike "Find My" on iOS
but...IT DOES
you can find your devices on Android with your google account
reef patrol
Can confirm. Even with location turned off.
cursive summit
ashen spindle
compare it to how long a reviewer was able to let it run X and if its about the same
then its just a wrong readout for the max value or so
crimson wigeon
Ha, mine is still 100%
wheat plume
@pale sigil try running "acpi -V" in konsole to see the battery health
to verify what the desktop itself says
astral haven
you can find iPhones even if they are turned off
This one just hurts me so much that people think this is a good thing
pale sigil
<@171594634605232128> try running "acpi -V" in konsole to see the battery health
Command not found
wheat plume
upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
astral haven
Clicky mcclickerson hype
wheat plume
or do this
wide light
is there a way that I can go to the update screen because every time I log into wooting it says there is an update and I cant figure out how to get to it
crimson wigeon
#archived_fortnite_double_movement but something on your system is broken and making the updater not work properly. Suggest uninstalling and then reinstalling (using a new installer downloaded from the website of course!)
wide light
bet, I I have updates in the back ground turned off, I figured that was the problem but I was just wondering if I could go to the actual update screen. Thanks for the help!
crisp granite
astral haven
I mean
How else am I gonna see if it's good unless I fill all my keys... /S
But hey also trying out qmk for the first time
Not gonna lie it's pretty interesting
I wonder if it's even theoretically possible for the wooting to be qmk compatible
Tho the web interface is alot nicer than having to reflash my keyboard entirely
wheat plume
this phone has a fucking opening cutscene....
after the initial setup
They all look like some sort of alien sex toy than an actual smartphone
empty wren
So glad asus took the haptics seriously this time, finally a worthy device.
shadow minnow
Health is still 92%
astral haven
What
shadow minnow
Well yes but I wish it only cost 500$
astral haven
You mean on the right 🤣 ?
shadow minnow
Well yes
Except it was few times that
Or well sure it’s not entirely just that
But about as powerful as just fans for anything GPU related
astral haven
The joke is that even raspberry pis were scalped
shadow minnow
It’s funny because my laptop beats it at everything but ssd speed
Even the cpu despite the cpu being 11900k
pale sigil
his cpu will be considered old by the time he gets a gpu
shadow minnow
Well it’s already worse than my laptop
pale sigil
you mean the laptop thats not actually yours
shadow minnow
Well yes
astral haven
And it doesn't beat it at everything, just everything that you tested...
And now you can actually add in a GPU....
astral haven
It’s funny because my laptop beats it at everything but ssd speed <:pepecry:6439...
And your laptop better slaughter the heck out of a raspberry pi at everything including cpu speed
slow garnet
I'm wondering if anyone has any input in terms of brand, size factor, capacity and even RPM in terms of life span. I don't quite care about other matters, as long as they're not SMR (unless it can be argued). I don't have the budget for "server" grade drives, however, but I can afford to go above regular "home" grade drives.
astral haven
That means you do have the budget to go server drives
Look up the exos drives
slow garnet
I don't have that budget. At all. Unless they sell them at lower capacities that I'm not aware of. They have 5 years warranty, but WD also does for their Black series.
astral haven
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#sort=ppgb&page=1
.002c/gb more expensive than the absolute cheapest...
Ok here's a better question
What type of data, and what type of devices need to have access
slow garnet
SATA connection, not SAS to begin with. Data type is gonna be family photos and videos.
FS doesn't really matter for the data, as long as I can figure something out for it.
astral haven
Capacity?
Price per year you are willing to spend on maintanance?
Number of people who need access?
astral haven
SATA connection, not SAS to begin with. Data type is gonna be family photos and ...
And there aren't any cheap sas drives
slow garnet
Min 500GB.
Max $200/y.
3 max, but likely gonna be the occasional single family member.
Hell even cut that to two I guess.
astral haven
How does $13 a month sound?
1tb
Can be accessed by unlimited Google accounts
$20 a month gets you 250tb (same access)
slow garnet
Unfortunately cloud storage is not an option here, due to my privacy concerns. I can arrange them being able to access it wherever they want.
slow garnet
I'm aware I could encrypt the photos and videos beforehand, but I'd rather just avoid that outright.
astral haven
🤷♀️ then you need to put an up front investment of 3 drives at least
And low capacity drives are big time bad for value
slow garnet
I'm aware low capacity is bad for value, but depending on how long they live, they might be worth it in my book. As for 3 drives, I see what you're getting two, but I'm just looking into getting two for now.
astral haven
2 drives doesn't allow you to run parity
slow garnet
I am aware, but I have a couple of extra drives which are not currently being used.
astral haven
So buy enough drives to make 3 of the right capacity?
slow garnet
No longer being manufactured 
Not to mention they're all of varying capacity.
I've got a 40GB lying around for christ sake, don't think anyone is gonna be selling those
astral haven
Buy of equal or larger capacity
You'll waste some space but use what you have
Oh
Uhhh
Like do you have any 500gb or 1tb drives?
astral haven
Yep
Or 3 used 1tbs
Should be alot cheaper
Raid z2 or raid 6 them and you have yourself 2tb of useable storage with a loss of any 2 drives keeping data safe
2 new 1tbs shouldn't be more than $150
slow garnet
Well, any recommendations in terms of which brand or manufacturer? I'm trying to avoid "home" models.
And yeah, $150 sounds reasonable.
Then again, Canada.
astral haven
Only avoid home models if you are trying to go zfs
For raid 6 it doesn't matter
Or 5 or 1
slow garnet
Well, let's... theoretically assume I'm going with ZFS. Advice?
astral haven
Also might want to look into unRAID
Another big up front investment but highly expandable
astral haven
*Well, let's... theoretically assume I'm going with ZFS. Advice?*
It's too late, you wouldn't want to use your existing drive
slow garnet
Care elaborating? I don't care if the drive fails early or needs to be wiped.
Because I don't recall having issues running ZFS with drives from 2006 to 2018 and of varying capacity... Unless I was a dumbass and missed something huge here.
astral haven
Did you have a drive fail and have to resliver?
slow garnet
Nope... and yes, I'm aware reslivering is crazy long
That and well, it potentially not working as intended depending on the circumstances.
astral haven
On smr drives it takes 1000x as long as on cmr drives at the low end
slow garnet
Yeah which is why I specifically stated I didn't want a SMR drive. The 1TB I have is an older, but still reliable, CMR drive.
WD Black if I recall.
slow garnet
Yes, unfortunately. Didn't they release a link with which drives were SMR and CMR?
astral haven
Yea but wd at least was found to be lying on it
And Seagate pretty much only listed super expensive drives
astral haven
Wd was even caught lying about the rpm of their drives lol
Which you could prove by literally just recording audio of the drive spinning
astral haven
It was 2019 last I cared to check
P sure the rpm nonsense was 2020 and 2021
All my drives are cloudd backed after hearing that 🤷♀️
slow garnet
As Joe Barbaro would say it: Holy shit what a fucking disappointment.
astral haven
To be fair this was in us who like speed's favor
slow garnet
So... they lied about slow speeds? I get why they did it, shitty, but good for us I guess.
astral haven
The problem is the drives are twice the heat and alooot louder
latent mural
when does the wooting 60he release to the us
astral haven
And they weren't faster because they were ofc smr drives
astral haven
Well everything is hybrid now
Usually about half smr by platter area
So about 2/3 smr by capacity
The only exception are the top end helium wd gold's that don't say archive, and the exos and barracuda pro
For the reds I believe there's a line of reds that have no smr but they are espensive asf
Tldr get an exos and back it up to the cloud
astral haven
Tldr get an exos and back it up to the cloud
For your redundancy
slow garnet
jesus do you just print money in your backyard or what? 
astral haven
Approx cost is 250 per year for 24tb of local + backed up storage
And I get to back up all my computers directly to it super easily
And I have it set up to show up as a direct network share on my nas (with the full 250tb of capacity)
Remember
Google workspace accounts aren't fed into the Google algorithm
And in most countries you have the option to require all your data to stay within that country's datacenters
slow garnet
That we know of. Yet. I'll keep looking on PCPartPicker for now as well as other places.
astral haven
Ooh
$12 ($13 including the domain) per month includes 2tb of storage now instead of 1
astral haven
That we know of. Yet. I'll keep looking on PCPartPicker for now as well as other...
Nah
We do know that, I work it for a nonprofit that has requirements from our insurance, and Google does meet that requirement on their workspace accounts
And anyways, it takes a very short amount of time to set up a computer as an encrypting rsync relay to Google drive
Can even be done on a raspberry pi for goodness sakes
But I tell you
Shared Google drives are very very nice
slow garnet
I'll pass on that for now. Like I said, I've got some privacy concerns.
astral haven
It's an up front investment of a raspberry pi to fix that issue...
slow garnet
Well yes, doing so would resolve the issue, but, it's Google.
Less trustworthy than the slut next door. Probably.
(No offense to sluts.)
astral haven
No
Your pi encrypt the data before it goes to Google
Then your pi decrypts it when you request it
slow garnet
I get that, but once it's on Google servers, it could theoretically be there forever.
AKA once it's on the internet, it stays on it forever.
astral haven
Which is why you encrypt it properly?
slow garnet
Carmoben please mate, I just don't want to play with Google. At all.
I don't trust it, even if I put the best encryption on my family's photo/video gallery.
Not to mention being bitten by Google in the past.
astral haven
You either go expensive or you go cloud 🤷♀️
slow garnet
Expensive it is then. I'll have to save up, even if I wanted to get this out of the way right now.
astral haven
13 a month
astral haven
You can believe what you want
But our insurance and grantors say it's ok so we use it 🤷♀️
Like
There are actual laws that have huge penalties that Google hasn't broken yet
astral haven
Remember
Google considers "Business" customers differently
astral haven
Are you blissfully unaware of the many times Google has been ~~sued~~fined?
Name a single time they have been sued regarding their business account private data
Like
It's all about their free Google accounts...
And the addage goes the way the addage goes
slow garnet
Fine, maybe I can't find one relating to their business accounts. Doesn't change the fact that even if they do consider said "business" customers differently, that they're part of the PRISM program, and that I've been bitten by them before.
'Nough said.
astral haven
Then you definetly shouldn't buy any products from any company that has existed for more than 5 years and has anyone who has existed for more than that in their supply chain...
Lemme come up with an example of a company that does that...
Hmmm....
🤔
Yea nope
Not a single example I can come up with
slow garnet
Why do you think I buy stuff 2nd hand when I can...
astral haven
Because you want to make sure it has been tampered with?
slow garnet
what's to say first hand wasn't?
NSA last time I checked can and will intercept packages.
astral haven
That's really hard to do for helium drives
slow garnet
what part of it? Is the PCB not outside the helium encasing?
astral haven
And if you have the NSA after you, and are on discord, it's too late
slow garnet
Not a matter of if, more like when
astral haven
<:thonk:568526682110296066> what part of it? Is the PCB not outside the helium e...
The chips are on the protected side of the PCB, and if you remove the PCB after sealing, I don't think it's possible to reseal outside of the helium sealing machines
Just leave the drive running for a day, and if it starts screeching then you know it's been tampered with
Anyways I wouldn't worry about it
If you have any device with a CPU and modem, the NSA has access to it if they want it bad enough
That is if you are in the us
slow garnet
Canada. But we have our own equivalent of it. As for the helium stuff, that's news to me. Last time I checked PCBs are always outside the drive, and there is a very flimsy... connector? pressure connector? at the motor.
astral haven
The motor connector isn't the part that matters lol
slow garnet
I know, but said motor connector is generally attached directly to the PCB.
As such, you generally cannot remove the PCB without removing the motor connector.
astral haven
Yes
But the data connector is what connects to the data
Anyways
That shouldn't even matter either way
slow garnet
regardless, this doesn't change my opinion or view. i'm gonna save up. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
astral haven
Sure
As long as you know it's illogical, you do what you want
Tho if you are canadian, it's not exactly a free country as the meme goes
slow garnet
Better than the US at least...
astral haven
Freedom wise?
Nah
That's not the way the meme goes
slow garnet
Might as well ask this while my brain is still slightly functioning: anyone aware of a mouse that isn't gonna fall apart after ~4 months of use? Logitech, SteelSeries and Roccat have failed me to date (various different failures). Zowie might be what I try next, but I just want a mouse which is decent and won't fucking fall apart (1600dpi, left, right, middle, scroll, pg forward, pg back). And no, I'm not rough with the mice either.
Even the Dollarama (chinesium) mice have failed me in this regard.
astral haven
The most reliable mice are the logitech cheapos
G103 and gpro are the kings of solid
If you want drop off a building tho you need to get some old Microsoft schiz
The Microsoft intellimice are gooood
slow garnet
I'll take a look into it tomorrow as well as other things that may show up. As for Logitech, already tried the g300s and g203... I must have the worst fucking luck in the world regarding Logitech mice.
astral haven
the g300 series is garbo
but the g203 are very solid mice...
slow garnet
Like I said, I have shit luck. The g300s, plastic for a button literally separated from the chassis and could not be fixed due to how it was assembled. The g203 had the left click button go out. Completely. Made a sound but no action.
astral haven
oh yea mouse click buttons
all the cheap mice use omrons, and all the expensive mice use omrons
you have to go for specialty stuffs to buy a mouse that doesnt use omrons
wheat plume
I wanna mod my old phone to remove the polarizing filter on the screen
This shit is so cool
formal vortex
but why?
halcyon moss
cool for a youtube vid, and showing it off to friends. but quite limited irl :p
wheat plume
It's really freaking cool
fair gull
hf modding it, using it once or twice and then never again
btw dont think about using it landscape and portrait without 2 seperated pairs of glasses or rotating your head
not to mention you have to wear glasses to use the phone at all times
junior ore
Looks like a cool way to have privacy though
fair gull
well i threw away a monitor i modded
yes privacy but the viewing angle in terms of like rotating my head left or right was severely limited
its rather impractical
misty saffron
so you’re telling me youtube videos don’t reflect the real experience for watch time??
impossible
sudden glacier
I wanna mod my old phone to remove the polarizing filter on the screen
would that still work if you hold the phone sideways
wheat plume
No
sudden glacier
wheat plume
Unless you got a second pair of glasses that are aligned for it to be sideways xd
sudden glacier
the reading glasses and the time alone glasses
wheat plume
Xd
wheat plume
What a wonderful use for a Pi :D https://youtu.be/xTo0j9H4i3Y
ashen spindle
heh nice http://www.transistorcount.com/ now has a counter that goes in real time showing where the current transistor count for moore's law is
astral haven
Except they are kinda missing a few important chips
Namely Cerebras' and dojo...
ashen spindle
oh its not up to date and currently being updated
ashen spindle
Twitter
frozen ingot
reef patrol
I doubt that'll fly in Europe
shadow minnow
I do approve of this
Gonna get more people to switch over to the superior mobile OS 
astral haven
Actual free phones coming soon
shadow minnow
You pay with your soul
wheat plume
Window Manager
junior ore
What's a WM
within linux you can configure and change your Window Manager and such
junior ore
actually its all Operating Systems. its just you don't normally change yours for windows or mac or android etcetera.
astral haven
Is it like Quadro desktop manager?
astral haven
Is it the new word for desktop environment?
junior ore
either primarily keybaord shortcut based, terminal, convential windows-like, max like, docker etcetera
no wait i got it mixed
here, better than my memory cells : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
one manages the applications, the manager
the desktop environment is basically the gui. roughly.
the differences are things like the Tiling window managers, which focuses strongly on using your keyboard to navigate and do everything. https://res.cloudinary.com/practicaldev/image/fetch/s--DOPXaLgN--/c_limit%2Cf_auto%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto%2Cw_880/https://dev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/i/x5tay3kxf1sz0amtepoq.png
astral haven
Sometimes Linux folks wonder why people don't use Linux
I have absolutely no idea how they expect a system this fragmented to be put into production
junior ore
it's not. and this is purely optional.
it's not the default.
want to see default?
ashen spindle
yeah its not default because linux hates bloat so much you need to know what else exists and manually add it
astral haven
You missed the point per usual
junior ore
that depends on which linux
i don't see what you mean by "fragmented"
are you saying its because its jsut not all owned and sold by one company?
if you want there, there is a linux for that.
astral haven
So imagine I download a window manager on windows
That window manager doesn't prevent me from using the windows features
I can still win + left right up down etc
It just gives me extra features on top
astral haven
Where do I go to look up those "os level" shortcuts for Linux?
junior ore
within arch you can install multiple window managers and switch between them within the login screen. to install you can just simply install it via the terminal with a quick command. so something like :
sudo pacman -S i3
cursive summit
Imagine having to install basic features
astral haven
Swing and a miss
junior ore
it would already have one
during installation you pick and choose what you want
you asked about installing extras
this was fucking it
what did I "miss"?
astral haven
Imagine having to install basic features
Nah I'm fine with having to install a window manager
astral haven
what did I "miss"?
The question entirely
junior ore
okay then elaborate. you were saying about installing another window manager, right?
astral haven
Where do I go to look up those "os level" shortcuts for Linux?
...
junior ore
or are you saying installing multiple together in one?
oh
ooooohh
i did miss the question
can you define "os level" shortcuts? you mean on par with window shortcuts like you mentioned as in win + left?
most desktop environments will include, in their settings, the shortcuts for such things. and configure them.
for instance, on my laptop : I have my start menu pop up with function+space
astral haven
"most" does not a standard make
junior ore
well thats because some people makem whacky ones 😛 the ones that come with linux operating systems will indeed come with that.
cursive summit
Is there even a basic linux
junior ore
you can literally install a desktop enviornment made by billybobjoe that doesn't ahve that, at your descretion. but it wouldn't be standard included in installation.
yes you can build a linux from scratch if you desire.
GNOME, KDE, and the other major used ones will all list their shortcuts
cursive summit
As in like, completely stock as shipped from Torvalds sex dungeon
junior ore
including the tiling ones like i3
cursive summit
Cause fuck Ubuntu and the rest
junior ore
well the thing is : Linux is open source stuff.
there is no "just a linux"
unless ytou build and compile it yourself.
i super recommend Arch or a 'pre-built' arch.
i specifically run EndeavourOS which is from the Arch branch but I don't have to go through the tedious process building it myself and it doesn't come with stuff I didn't want.
if you want the most straight forward : there is Manjaro.
both of these are highly respected.
better than ubuntu.
ashen spindle
And they are able to brick when you try to launch steam
junior ore
Manjaro is also Arch based*
i guess you nebver had a blue screen of death that doesn't tell you anything 🙂
or locks you out because you forgot your microsoft account login 🙂
or other such stuff
cursive summit
So basically
ashen spindle
Well I don’t log in so I can’t really log out
junior ore
well congrats on not using a computer?
cursive summit
There is no basic linux
junior ore
you can get linuxs that are basic
cursive summit
Cause it's all bloated infested shit
junior ore
it just wont be called "linux".
no you can get really simple easy to use linux that is straight forward.
ashen spindle
Oh I use normal windows just no login anywhere
junior ore
here, this one is very recommended for trying out first time. super straight forward and isn't taxing on the system. you can install it on a potato. https://linuxmint.com/
cursive summit
Tbf the abundance of logins in Linux is really damn annoying
mild dome
I just installed W10 offline ro avoid M$ account bullshit
cursive summit
Yes I've been running Mint for 3 years now
junior ore
you don't have to login with linux
cursive summit
And I DESPISE Mint
junior ore
you can set up your linux to not need ot log in like windows.
fine, don't use mint. there are others.
ashen spindle
You can use windows without logging in too
cursive summit
Linux is how to make everything complicated and slap it onto the user
junior ore
I just installed W10 offline ro avoid M$ account bullshit
its so annoying, you have to turn off wifi and unplug Ethernet each time too during install >.<
junior ore
I despise Linux
then just say that instead.
astral haven
there is no "just a linux"
This is the definition of fragmented
cursive summit
Should prolly try hackintosh next, that's prolly better quality than linux at this point
ashen spindle
Pretty sure that’s also older and there are other ways without having to disable WiFi and all
junior ore
This is the definition of fragmented
once more : elaborate. be specific.
cursive summit
Split resources
junior ore
what do you mean "split resources"?
mild dome
I feel like Linux is fun if you like to tinker, but when you want an OS that just
Works
It makes it a hard sell to people who just want to hit the ground running.
It's like some people love baking, others just buy some doughnuts at the bakery, yeah maybe it's not as tasty as what you could potentially make, but fuck it
cursive summit
It's random how many there are
junior ore
linux isn't... owned bya single company...
cursive summit
And that's the problem
junior ore
my linux just works
mild dome
It's Linux' blessing and its curse
cursive summit
my linux just works
Except when it doesn't
junior ore
And that's the problem
how thats a problem to not have to pay for your operating system? or be forced in stuff?
astral haven
Like
Fragmented doesn't nescessarily mean bad
It just means it can't be used as the general worker os in most orgs
cursive summit
how thats a problem to not have to pay for your operating system? or be forced ...
Windows isn't paid, just saying
junior ore
you know they control your shit, right? its called a monopoly. Linux isn't tied to a monopoly.
astral haven
how thats a problem to not have to pay for your operating system? or be forced ...
Someone pays
junior ore
someone pays.... what?
astral haven
Someone ALWAYS pays
junior ore
pffffft
cursive summit
Peeps really think Linux is some goated shit
junior ore
linux is an operating system
cursive summit
Prolly riddled with NSA backdoors anyways
junior ore
it has its uses and thats that.
junior ore
i don't hype it beyond what it is. and I don't down play it either.
mild dome
Can I sell you guys some Temple OS?
astral haven
I don't think you get what you mean
cursive summit
Can I sell you guys some Temple OS?
I wish that evolved to something more
Was pretty cool
junior ore
dude stop being pedantic. I get it. it's jsut the damn kernels and shit, its not the whole OS and stuff. but like, you get the point of what I was saying. moving on.
cursive summit
I asked the lad for basic linux, fresh out of the factory
Where's my linux
Stock
junior ore
your trolling.
cursive summit
No shit involved
junior ore
stop.
junior ore
here. now stop it. https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
cursive summit
Why can I download windows 11 off of Microsofts website but there is no linux based on linux
junior ore
because you don't understand a thing.
astral haven
go look at a wiki or something.
El problemo with linux
cursive summit
I find it sad that I have to follow a guide to get stock linux
junior ore
El problemo with linux
they are trolling, and now I feel liek you are by pretending they aren't and saying i'm the problem like i'm some average linux user when i've only been using it for half a year :/
cursive summit
Seriously where's linux vanilla ISO
ashen spindle
Vexxs trolling aside one issue with Linux is that the basic reply is usually to go to a wiki since it’s to fragmented
junior ore
no it was the reply to someone trolling
i wouldn't suggest someone to go to the wiki for that.
i already tried to answer them.
but they ignored it
so i gave them a troll response.
low effort gets low effort.
cursive summit
Seems very user friendly to build your own vanilla linux out of source code
astral haven
Linux is an os
So I can use it to replace windows
No you need (insert distro of choice)
Ok so what distro has the best window management
No that's the window manager
Etc...
junior ore
no idea where you thought that up.
cursive summit
You literally said that
astral haven
here. now stop it. https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
You did in fact say that
cursive summit
So anyone can link me a linux stock/vanilla/barebones/clean ISO or something?
junior ore
he literally asked for "just the linux"
cursive summit
I'm still waiting