🔌│tech

[empty wren]

Microsoft

Google actually is suffering right now pretty sure

Apple is eh

[cursive summit]

I wouldn't invest in a company I have no confidence in

[empty wren]

But yeah mostly the sp500 companies

You can also do crypto.thing

Where you invest on troublesome stocks

And sometime big success comes

Memestocks are shit

Like gamestop

[cursive summit]

Man I wish my brain clocked on rheinmetall getting massive investments since the Ukraine-Russkiy war starting

[empty wren]

🙄

[cursive summit]

I'll have you know GME has a bright future ahead of it

[empty wren]

Sure

Look I do not invest in stuff

I work

And I buy what I need

And that is it

I am happy with dat life

[cursive summit]

I'm kinda wishing to 1000% my initial investments and live off of that money while doing something creative

[empty wren]

Possible very possible

[cursive summit]

Kind of planning to do a big project with my wife of making a game together

[empty wren]

Just gotta be smart

[cursive summit]

She can't find games she wants to play, so we'll make one

[empty wren]

Use indegogo if you have to

Not kickstarter

[cursive summit]

We'll see how that goes

But yeah I'm fairly interested in game design

[empty wren]

If you wanna make some moneh

Though

👀

👀

There is website where people pay to see xontent

Like skin

Stuff

Ya dig

👀

👀

[cursive summit]

If that project ever reaches a stage where it's close to release, steam early access is pretty much the place

[empty wren]

You can pitch it to Microsoft they are looking for more games

[cursive summit]

And I'm not doing only fans my boy

[empty wren]

They may even give you a butt ton of investment funds

Literally did so to a cashier and his buddy I think

[cursive summit]

I imagine there are a lot more talented people that are more relevant to Microsoft than me

[empty wren]

Nah

Microsoft will take almost anything so long as it ain't dookie on a pan

[ashen spindle]

applying for local funds or something like epic mega grants would be much more likely to actually end with money

[empty wren]

Why not

[cursive summit]

I'll leave that for lana

[empty wren]

What about violet

Violet is even more horny

[cursive summit]

monkaChrist

[ashen spindle]

oh wow they funded a lot of things already https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/epic-megagrants-2021-update

[empty wren]

Oh you mean epic games

That makes sense

Could always beg sweeny for moneh

Seems like he burns it all the time

[ashen spindle]

think the biggest grant that was made is still to blender which is nice to see

[empty wren]

Interesting

Yeah that does seem helpful

And does 80% not sound good to you vexxy

[ashen spindle]

the grants have nothing to do with the egs store cut...

[empty wren]

I know I just mean say he gets it, he can have it published there

And benefit some.more

A very good path with epic

Not that 70% is bad

[pale sigil]

ITE

I NEED HELP

subreddit:wootingkb title:("ignore") OR title:("test1") OR title:("othertest")

[empty wren]

Cringe

[pale sigil]

im trying to work on an iftt applet

[empty wren]

Nobody understands you

[pale sigil]

and i cant seem to be getting multiple keywords

[wheat plume]

TIL that the default media player in Windows can play .FLAC now

nice!! THey improved it

Groove Music wasnt able to IIRC

[misty saffron]

i don’t remember it being unable to open flacs

[cursive summit]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17453/tsmc-unveils-n2-nanosheets-bring-significant-benefits

Subatomics are ever getting closer

But I can't imagine after N2 and god forbid N1 we'll jump straight to even tinier nodes

I imagine the process will be greatly refined for an extended period of time before we go for sub-atoms

[shadow minnow]

Well N1 is still more than just one atom

[old marlin]

IHATEISPSIHATEISPSIHATEISPSIHATEISPSIHATEISPSIHATEISPS

higher up in my company has problems connecting with our vpn server in the company

and I got a sneaking suspicion that is is down to qos "improvements" from his ISP

[cursive summit]

True, that'd have to be 0.2nm

Which sounds unachievable ngl

[ashen spindle]

reminder node names have nothing in common with actual sizes of transistors

tsmcs N5 has gate length of 30nm

[cursive summit]

So what is the 5 part

[ashen spindle]

marketing

[cursive summit]

Or they called it N5 but it has nothing to do with anything 5

I read that N7 is like carbon copy of Intel's 14

Well not a copy but close af

[ashen spindle]

before FinFET the number was the gate length so ever since 22nm of intel the number stopped being an actual thing

no longer possible to describe the progress just by one dimension since it could be bigger but still better so they just lept the numbers in relative progress to what it would've been based on previous scaling

[cursive summit]

Must have been quite the jump since they avoided N11, N9, N8

[ashen spindle]

before 22 the node was 32 so 10 to 7 is quite a small jump

[wheat plume]

AFAIK most devs play music while coding, right?

[ashen spindle]

some do some dont

[wheat plume]

the HP Dev One doesnt have media keys on the keyboard

[ashen spindle]

that appears to be the case?

[wheat plume]

which is strange to me for a developer laptop

[ashen spindle]

it has volume keys not sure what else you'd need

[cursive summit]

Yes no media keys = developers don't do music

How is that even an assumption

[ashen spindle]

I never even used media keys so I wouldnt even know what to use them for

[cursive summit]

If anything function keys in general are annoying

[misty saffron]

well…

music distracts me personally

[ashen spindle]

but I dont see why music in the background would make me want to use media keys, if its in the background you dont want to think about it aka dont change it

otherwise you listen to music with doing some code in the background lol

[old marlin]

would agree to that

[misty saffron]

is that even normal that i can’t properly pay attention to anything else when i hear music

[old marlin]

only reason to need them would be if there was a distracting song in a playlist or something

[ashen spindle]

yes

[misty saffron]

it’s fine when music is super quiet, so very close to just being background noise

[ashen spindle]

I think for most its music to drown out other distracting factors so while the music is there it's less distracting than without it and constant other sounds

[wheat plume]

^

[ashen spindle]

which in turn also means you usually dont want a random playlist where you would need media keys to skip songs or w/e

[shadow minnow]

Well you still may often play random playlists since you may have overlistened to others or too lazy to make a playlist of just what you like

[ashen spindle]

and I am sure in that case alt+tab and a click is working just fine and not needs extra keys

[shadow minnow]

And also some people tend to listen to music during playing games and such as well where it’s often not just known playlists since distractions don’t matter as much

[shadow minnow]

I disagree honestly as someone who tends to listen to music / watch videos while doing almost anything

And if the game isn’t HDR and rest it alt tabbing will also make your screen black for a second or two

Just annoying and inconvenient

[ashen spindle]

games and co arent relevant since the question was specifically for coding due to a developer laptop not having said keys

[shadow minnow]

Still just inconvenient

[ashen spindle]

not disagreeing but your points hold no value in that question

[shadow minnow]

Well even with programming it’s not as convenient though not as bad either

Unrelated but one and probably only thing I miss about touchbar is volume and brightness sliders, especially since I often play music at low volume steps are not enough and I am used to just sliding to change it from phone as well

[cursive summit]

Did you people forget second display exists?

You'd prolly be hard pressed to find a dev that doesn't use more than one display

[ashen spindle]

the point was still for a laptop not a desktop setup...

[cursive summit]

Fair enough but even then you'd use an external display and a keyboard with a work laptop

Regardless

Alt tab is a godsend

[ashen spindle]

not really for most people in most cases

[misty saffron]

yea um

i absolutely can’t multitask properly if i hear music

[cursive summit]

Imagine multitasking

[pale sigil]

Cex is high af

256gb version second hand

[fair gull]

i mean the demand is high so ofc it resells for shittons to skip the wait

[cursive summit]

https://wccftech.com/legendary-chip-architect-jim-keller-says-amd-stupidly-cancelled-k12-arm-cpu-project-after-he-left-the-company/?preview=true

He isn't wrong though

K12 was like pretty damn cool

[ashen spindle]

for the most part he isnt wrong because he didnt say those words

[cursive summit]

Why would the stupidly cancelled part be in quotes then

Quotes kinda mean... quotation?

[ashen spindle]

because wcctrash has no journalistic integrity and writes garbage

[cursive summit]

still reads more fun than most other stuff

[ashen spindle]

well if you want to read fun maybe read comics and not something that pretends to be news

[cursive summit]

It really isn't that bad Quin, don't shit on wccf that much

The standard's are definitely lower than anand but it's not that terrible

[ashen spindle]

its rehash of other sites, non validated sources and nothing unique

its just a cashgrab for adrevenue

the only thing they dont do is make up random things

congratz for that part I guess

[cursive summit]

Nearly every publication nowadays just copies stuff other places post

And wccf actually does, at times, post original stuff

Mostly it's wrong though so

[ashen spindle]

yes and I said that, non validated sources

so they care more about more clicks rather than checking if its right or even possible

at least now I know why some people talked about keller and k12 in obvious terms, to show wcc was wrong without giving more exposure

[misty saffron]

ayo @rugged pelican this you??

[ashen spindle]

did he come up to you and say rust is the best language?

[misty saffron]

no i don’t think so

[pale sigil]

Well for one Simon lives in the UK

And two he's in the Netherlands rn afaik

[misty saffron]

business trip to moscow

[pale sigil]

3 that doesn't look like him even remotely ;)

[misty saffron]

likes rust - must be simon

[rugged pelican]

👀

[pale sigil]

Hahahahaha

[fickle ore]

@halcyon moss Ninox failed you and I - come here to join me in another try: https://atompalm.com/blogs/news/june-2022-update

This time, a mouse is actually ready to be shipped when you buy it!

[empty wren]

Wow

It is coming out actually

And they lucky new mice with holes are being made

Otherwise feel like the argument would fall apart for this

[ashen spindle]

not sure if I would call it lucky, or consistent physics

no material is still less weight than covering it even with the lightest stuff you can find

[empty wren]

I know I just mean that the lightweight trend and some being willing to sacrifice loss of mouse material still being a trend

There are lighter mouse than this

Mk2 and mk1 have no bottom basically 🥴

But in the scheme of things very few mice with a covered top and sides do exist with weight reduction

[astral haven]

The gpw superlight was a weight reduced gpw

[empty wren]

Yep like that

[astral haven]

And alot of the hole drilled mice have flex issues
The m2k and superlight dont

Metal definetly helps tho

[empty wren]

Yeah magnesium of the finalmouse is interesting but they still put holes

[empty wren]

Roccat can be trusted I would think as well

They do not have have fully extruded holes

[fair gull]

the funniest part about rust is that it has a compiler error that reads like the compiler knows what program you want but it wont help you in any way

[fickle ore]

gpw supalight is fatty

m2k is småll

if u want big palm grip mouse that weighs <50g, nothing exists except atompalm, and it's also by volumetric size the lightest or 2nd lightest mouse available

[astral haven]

I palm my m2k, and the m2k is definetly lighter
It really surprised me how large the m2k was

[fickle ore]

Tbh only thing it lacks is front sensor position which Astrum had ;_;

[fickle ore]

that gotta be some weird palm

[astral haven]

And g-wolves has some sub 50g designed for palm primarily mice

[fickle ore]

sm0ll and crab click latency like 8ms bad

[astral haven]

Improved with fw 🤷

And it's not that weird of a pam

Palm

Fingers def hang over the front tho lol

[fickle ore]

that looks like a torture device xD

[astral haven]

Crazy from the bottom, sleek on top
My kinda aesthetic

[empty wren]

Finalmouse exists bud

[astral haven]

No it doesnt

[empty wren]

Fine

[astral haven]

Finalmouse just isn't an option...

[empty wren]

Yamatoklok swears by it

But the fact only the bottom is open does plus it up

[astral haven]

The whole negative latency clicks is also nice /s

Fr tho latching debounce makes so much sense, do not know why noone else uses it

[empty wren]

What dat

[astral haven]

Instead of waiting for the button to be in a specific position for x amount of time, it clicks the instant it detects the button, then has a minimum delay time before the button state can change again

[empty wren]

I see

[halcyon moss]

Hmm no thanks

[empty wren]

Glorious all the way?

[astral haven]

Just got my gmmk2 and I'm pretty happy about it

I definitely picked the wrong switches but I knew that going in lol

[halcyon moss]

Yeah that avatar was before glorious the brand was really a thing

[empty wren]

Are you sure

[empty wren]

Hotswap sockets?

[astral haven]

Yep

[empty wren]

Nice so not an issue

[fickle ore]

atompalm does

[astral haven]

Yea I provided my own switches lol

[astral haven]

Atompalm doesn't use anything yet because they don't exist yet

[fickle ore]

ok..

60HE doesn't exist either? xd

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it was all just a dream

[astral haven]

But I can confirm that mixing tactile and linear is worse than either of the two by themselves

[empty wren]

Ya don say

I think clicky and linear might be okay though

I gave some a keyboard which I put a double click on a few places others were singles

[astral haven]

I don't have enough tecsee rubies to fill out my board so I decided to try tactile for a change with the purple pandas
And oooooh boy I do not enjoy tactileand hmm I wonder which switches are the rubies and which are the purples

[empty wren]

[astral haven]

God I hate these tactiles so much
Clickiez hype

[empty wren]

Do you have some?

Still wondering on the opinion of them

[astral haven]

Ordered, not here yet

[empty wren]

Oh okay

[astral haven]

September expected arrival :/

[empty wren]

Wow

Which version

[astral haven]

They only sell the clicky

[empty wren]

No no I mean weighting

[astral haven]

Ah
75

[empty wren]

Oh oof

And I thought 95 g being out of stock was bad

[astral haven]

95g?

[empty wren]

Yeah they have a heavier one

[astral haven]

They only sell 40 and 75...

[empty wren]

Ummm I said nothing

Though pretty sure the heavier one top out at like 95-100

[astral haven]

https://zealpc.net/products/clickiez?variant=39379354026048

Yea
Peak force 95 but that's not that crazy for a clicky

[empty wren]

Certainly not but I do wonder what kinda click is present or tactile event

If it round or sharp

They will not have the bead problem but round has disappointed me thus far

[astral haven]

From this it seems insanely sharp for clicky

[empty wren]

Gonna look into it then

It is pretty epic they are 3 in ones

[astral haven]

Yee

[empty wren]

And click leaf

Given that I doubt the silo beams will even be produced

[astral haven]

Have you tried kailh clickbars?

[empty wren]

Yes I love box navies

But I wish they were heavier

I have a full soldered keyboard of them

[astral haven]

Yea they are heavier than the clickiez

[empty wren]

🥴

Well maybe I could see the clickez in tactile mode

[astral haven]

Yea
But have fun with that

[empty wren]

I am sure the tactile group will disagree but there are so many round tactile events that kinda seem the same

[empty wren]

Oh trust me I like fiddling with stuff

[astral haven]

Fair enough

[empty wren]

I am sure the contacts should be a bit better than average as well

But it would suck to break $1.5 switches

[astral haven]

Yuup

I will only have 4 spares if I fill my board...

[pale sigil]

Gonna get myy 60he before my deck lmao

[empty wren]

If it good might buy a small board of them for a teacher

[astral haven]

Oh cheit boyos
Look what I got here

[ashen spindle]

e-waste?

[empty wren]

https://c.tenor.com/fl5HZpCXSAEAAAAM/drake-pointing.gif

[astral haven]

It's actually just metal
So it would be recycling

[ashen spindle]

good point

[empty wren]

Coulda kept it to forge katana

[astral haven]

It's going with my collection of Intel goodies

[ashen spindle]

is that a phi?

[astral haven]

There is 1 phi in the picture
And it is not the one with the black fan :P

Larabee silicon bby
Never got a commercial release as a phi

[ashen spindle]

nice

[pale sigil]

HAH

https://store.ifixit.de/products/steam-deck-fan

Sold out already

Brilliant

If anyone needs context, valve uses 2 different fan designs and one of them sound god awful with whine.

This one is the none whine one

im not german too

i got sent it

https://store.ifixit.co.uk/products/steam-deck-fan

but even in the uk they out of stock

[reef patrol]

Because it makes language easier.

[reef patrol]

Because browsers often block this from being sent?

[astral haven]

It's not that easy to do, and it becomes harder the bigger your website is

[astral haven]

Nah
Language is very often normal

[reef patrol]

You say that - Yet I long for the day when I am served an ENGLISH page with an ENGLISH System language 😄

[astral haven]

The other problem is urls are often different in different languages

[astral haven]

That's probably more a load balancing thing
Your local loadbalancer probably just has the local language

[reef patrol]

wat

urls are almost always english.

[astral haven]

The majority of ruls are not english

[reef patrol]

Go to any spanish, italian or french site and see if they use home, about and so forth and so on.

[astral haven]

https://www.free.fr/freebox/informations/nous-contacter/

https://www.free.fr/freebox/cookies/
This is the only English named webpage I've found, and that's because the French word for browser cookies is the English word for cookies

Nope

We are very specific about what words are used for what lol

Anyways another more relevant exame to this tech chat is the one that is most common that I see
https://www.igorslab.de/intel-sockel-lga-1700-und-lga-1800-im-detail-exklusive-daten-und-zeichnungen-fuer-die-neuen-cpus-ab-alder-lake/
Our friend igor

If you just edit the URL and remove the en it doesn't take you to the de site...

[halcyon moss]

They probably see your langauge header, but ignore it in favor of geo ip location based language detection

[astral haven]

That's on the good sites...

Samsung just serves you whatever you type in :/

And when you try to switch, it brings you to the homepage...

[pale sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6AOwDttBsc

[crisp granite]

me sees meta
me says fuck off

I don't want a headset I need to jailbreak and lose warranty or give my personal details to and still fear it gets locked and becomes a paperweight

[cursive summit]

Seriously you can't jailbreak it

I had not heard of a software exploit for it

[pale sigil]

you can

[cursive summit]

Nor do you need one, just oculus link it to PC and play games with steam vr

[pale sigil]

Also the Quest 1 they gave out the code to do so too

[ashen spindle]

and carmack says they plan to do the same for quest 2 and os on

but even if you dont want it, still new tech and good to see

[astral haven]

You need to log in to do that

[pale sigil]

This pretty much.

[astral haven]

Valve getting real close to ready on this

Wifi tethering built into steamvr soonish?

[ashen spindle]

also if you think carmack had to push hard and meta wont do the same for future devices https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1441499823367131140

John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)

@gravicle Legal wasn't problematic -- FB lawyers are surprisingly cool about a lot of efforts that you might expect pushback on.

Twitter · Sep 24, 2021, 8:28 PM

[astral haven]

I suspect the problem for the future to be the the business folks
If you can just hack the quest to not get ads, Facebook is just outright losing money from letting you buy it

[ashen spindle]

that depends on how they add it

if its baked into the content you get ads on every platform and unlocks wont stop that

so depends on how they focus on hardware vs software

[astral haven]

Tru

Yea ,if YouTube doesn't care about imbeds Facebook would have no problem doing that too to some extent

[reef patrol]

And as we already discussed that just isn't true. Or I'd be served in English everytime

[fickle ore]

Has anyone tried this kind of microphone?

[empty wren]

Hate this headline

Phones since the G2 have 4g

[shadow minnow]

I hate the idea of shutting down 3G as well

4G still by far doesn’t cover all rural areas

[shadow minnow]

First fix your coverage

[empty wren]

Yeah

It does not

[empty wren]

So stupid of google

I cannot get a pixel again because of their mishandling

Last good phone was Pixel 4

And even that had issues

Some google had to make pixel 5 which also did some good in its own way but felt overpriced at msrp

[astral haven]

Lte is not 4g

[empty wren]

[pale sigil]

Speaking of

Bexins IPhone is poo

It wouldn't even get 5g in one of the biggest cities in the UK

[empty wren]

It is an iphone whatcha expect

5g+

[ashen spindle]

thats because the EU iphones only had some parts and not mmWave 5g capability

[empty wren]

Yeah that too

Also apple does not like dealing with Qualcomm

[ashen spindle]

not related to qualcomm

[empty wren]

Well not directly

But if apple wanted the equipment likely comes from qualcomm

[pale sigil]

Bexin said his phone supports 5G

wot

@shadow minnow do you get 5g in ya hosts home?

or anywhere in general

[ashen spindle]

yes it has 5G

but not mmWave

[shadow minnow]

Sometimes in Exeter

[empty wren]

Yeah those are separate

[shadow minnow]

But the speeds uh

[empty wren]

Need more antennas

[shadow minnow]

Never seen above 100mbps, usually it’s 4g speeds

But in general internet here

4g has 3g speeds

Or e speeds usually

[ashen spindle]

so by design it will have less spots where it works on 5g since mmWave is the one thats fast

[empty wren]

So US has better tower speeds

Interesting

[ashen spindle]

not really no

[pale sigil]

oh

So you dont have 5g at all

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s just UK that’s this bad lol

[empty wren]

I mean I got easily 100mbps on 4g

[shadow minnow]

I do

[pale sigil]

imagine a 230 quid phone having 5g and not an IPhone

[shadow minnow]

Or well sub 6ghz

[empty wren]

Also there is a thing called gigabit lte

[pale sigil]

idk why you say uk is bad

in one of the biggest cities in the uk

even Liverpool has 5g 100+

[shadow minnow]

Well 5G was kinda a new thing when this phone got released so Europe unfortunately didn’t get mmWave

[shadow minnow]

Well where I live it’s bad

[pale sigil]

Oh ye for sure

[shadow minnow]

And travelling with train coverage kinda sucks

[ashen spindle]

bruh it literally just non US models that dont have it, thats on apple being shit

[shadow minnow]

And they say reasonable limit for wifi usage on train is 70mb

[ashen spindle]

its the same for the iphone 13

[pale sigil]

thats the same with most providers tbh

[empty wren]

Is there not like only one carrier in UK with 5G though

[shadow minnow]

Yeah for 13 it’s especially unreasonable

[pale sigil]

ive tried a few during uni as it was the bane of my existence during uni

[shadow minnow]

Nope like all have 5G by now

Even Slovakia has some 5G

[pale sigil]

No

[empty wren]

Oh

[shadow minnow]

Even smaller carriers

[empty wren]

Those are subsidiaries most likely

[ashen spindle]

well

I guess the UK does have a bit less since some 5g towers were burned down

[shadow minnow]

No, we have small carrier that’s separate, only has some 4G and bit of 5G in cities and in other places you get up to 3G from other carrier

[pale sigil]

Didn't they end up not burning down 5g towers

but other ones

because small brain

[shadow minnow]

But well 3G in Slovakia is usually enough by far

[empty wren]

[ashen spindle]

maybe, I know one got burned or thrown over, idk about others

[pale sigil]

EE, O2, Vodafone and Three have 4G

So all

basically

[shadow minnow]

I surely hope so

[pale sigil]

All other networks are virtual ones

[empty wren]

Also 5G is recycled frequencies anyways at least low midend

I know in US some almost unused emergency frequencies are now up to grabs

[shadow minnow]

Yeah in UK it seems to be recycled 3G frequency speeds + 5G low range

[pale sigil]

tbh

Im not even going to deny that

Especially with GiffGaff

But im happy with 60-100mbs i usually get

min 20

[empty wren]

Do yll in EU and UK have a thing called 5G+

[shadow minnow]

To be fair I do get 4G speeds with 5G sometimes when really close

But I have never seen 4G speeds on 4G in Exeter

[empty wren]

Or 5GE

[ashen spindle]

no 5g+ is an american scam only

[empty wren]

Well alright then

[ashen spindle]

would not be allowed here legally

[empty wren]

Good I guess

[ashen spindle]

yup

[shadow minnow]

Why?

[ashen spindle]

would definitely be a thing here otherwise

[empty wren]

It is fookin 4g bexin

Or a stepping stone

[ashen spindle]

because calling 4g 5g is fucking scamming people

[empty wren]

Pretty avg 4g speeds

Not bad

[pale sigil]

aye and im in a small town

[shadow minnow]

Lol I wish

[pale sigil]

in the city i get more

[empty wren]

Not surprised but could get more if you booted people off

I doubt we will ever 1gbps 5g

[pale sigil]

this is a virtual network

btw

[shadow minnow]

Wow that’s probably most I ever had

[empty wren]

I mean those got better by now

[empty wren]

Still good

If your internet sucks

12ishmbps is enough for one person

[empty wren]

Guessing that is your internet

Probably wifi

[shadow minnow]

O2 “LTE”

[empty wren]

Though hard to know

[shadow minnow]

Do they mean Lite E?

[wheat plume]

LTE

[empty wren]

O2 is fine for calls and sms

[empty wren]

Oh

[shadow minnow]

Who uses that anymore

Any carrier is

[empty wren]

My parents did

[pale sigil]

Im still waiting for 4g/5g broadband to not be expensive

[shadow minnow]

LTE in Slovakia tends to be great

[pale sigil]

atm 4g broadband at 20mbs is 30 quid a month

[empty wren]

Inside suburban house for $30 per year service

[pale sigil]

idk what my upload is

but the speedtest used 400mb in seconds

[shadow minnow]

I have 4G wifi that’s like 50/10 for 20€ but 2tb cap

[pale sigil]

[shadow minnow]

Used to be way worse too

[reef patrol]

250/50 pleb life. Doesn't get faster on cable 😦

[wheat plume]

Irish LTE is notoriously slow and coverage around ireland is pretty lacking in a lot of areas

[reef patrol]

I want fiber again.

[shadow minnow]

Lol that’s way more than for most of us

[wheat plume]

I lost connection on the way to a place I was meeting friends today and it WAS NOT RURAL

.-.

had to pull over to redo the navigation

[reef patrol]

I'd like 250/250 at the very least 😛

[shadow minnow]

In Slovakia LTE has very nice speeds and usually good coverage since even small villages usually have it

[shadow minnow]

I would be happy with 50/10

[empty wren]

I would take that if I had ir

[wheat plume]

When I was in Norway, I had LTE+ the entire time, even on the fuckking Fjords

I was shocked

[shadow minnow]

That’s in Slovakia though

[shadow minnow]

Have like 11/2 in UK

[reef patrol]

We take cell service pretty serious in scandinavia.

[empty wren]

I would be happy if my wifi speeds could be that fast in my room

[wheat plume]

yep..clearly

[shadow minnow]

Yeah they used to say you would get mobile data connection in Norway even 50m underground

[pale sigil]

In eaxter

[wheat plume]

I fucking believe it

[shadow minnow]

Which is in the UK

[wheat plume]

I only dropped to h+ once

[shadow minnow]

As far as I am aware

[wheat plume]

LTE+ the entire time

[pale sigil]

Can be laugh at Lana

real quick

[shadow minnow]

No

[pale sigil]

She is never getting her steam deck

ne ne

[empty wren]

Move Slovakia to US immediately

[wheat plume]

90 days ;-;

[shadow minnow]

Oh on that yes

[pale sigil]

sec

[ashen spindle]

yes but I will laugh at all of you too

[empty wren]

Yeah Ethernet user

[shadow minnow]

Oh in cities we have 1000/50 unlimited for 20.90€

[pale sigil]

im at 400 now

guess how much gigabit would cost me @ashen spindle

[shadow minnow]

Do you want our income too?

[ashen spindle]

you posted the image I saw it

[empty wren]

No thanks, you can keep that

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume are you q3 or after q3

75 mother fuckin euros

[wheat plume]

probably, most retail jobs in america dont pay minimum wage and most waiters live off customer tips :/

[empty wren]

But to be fair bexin if life was good df it matters what income is

[pale sigil]

Bexin seems to be rich

[wheat plume]

AFTER ;l-;#

[empty wren]

Huh what, that is restaurants

[shadow minnow]

Not really

[empty wren]

I got a 1.50 pay raise at pool

[shadow minnow]

Well in Slovakia probably my parents do have over average income but especially in like UK wouldn’t be considered rich at all

Just more of middle class

[empty wren]

I make $100 a week doing nothing and get to spend most time elsewhere

[pale sigil]

idk where you get your money

You have way more than i ever dreamed of at your age

haha

[shadow minnow]

Okay I do have one genuinely rich relative

Which is really from where I collected money I have

Since I never spent it

And once a year would get it just as my cousin

But still it’s just that over all the years it added up

[empty wren]

Yeah a lot kids have it that way

Even America

[pale sigil]

I dont

[shadow minnow]

Well

You aren’t really a kid anymore

[pale sigil]

most i got off my nan was 30 quid mouse

[shadow minnow]

[empty wren]

I mean to be fair your life in UK sounds tough anyways

[pale sigil]

On my 21s my grandma and grandad give me 2k

[ashen spindle]

are we still talking tech

[empty wren]

Yes

[pale sigil]

but i pre spent it on private maths lessons to get into uni

We are wondering how he funds his apple hobby

[empty wren]

5g conspicary

[shadow minnow]

Well really it was just money adding up, I don’t own the MacBook either.
I definitely couldn’t afford a new iPhone every year for example

[pale sigil]

tfw when Bexin has a bigger networth than me

[ashen spindle]

phones can be handed down and all, I think it was a bigger thing when he got his gpus-less pc 😛

[pale sigil]

Now i feel less guilty about the train fair

[empty wren]

How come you cannot get a online programming job

You do have code skills dontcha

[shadow minnow]

Yeah I don’t have bigger net worth anymore

[empty wren]

Or is job market also ass in UK

[pale sigil]

Because im special and broken in the head.

[empty wren]

Sigh

[pale sigil]

I have PTSD

[empty wren]

Oh

[pale sigil]

And any commitments make me spiral

[empty wren]

I see okay fair enough

[pale sigil]

Along with other issues

Im going to work on it now that i get extra money

[shadow minnow]

Yeah usually was the case for me, last year was only really time I actually spend money and that was planned for two years
And well will spend bit more once I get a GPU
Still couldn’t afford building such pc again

[pale sigil]

Just trying to find a therapist

private one

that aint shit like better nobs

[empty wren]

Right cuz UK public health care is a joke

[pale sigil]

Mental Health care is a joke

GPs are poo

Hospitals are pretty good

just overworked

[empty wren]

That made laugh a bit

But too fair US is not any better

[pale sigil]

Its true, it takes 6-8 months to see someone

[empty wren]

[pale sigil]

i know because ive done it 3 times

[empty wren]

Someone could do something in 6-8 months

[pale sigil]

You'd get sectioned.

And forced into a clinic

[empty wren]

Queen needs to give the money back into programs

[empty wren]

Not cool

Especially since I bet they drug ya

[shadow minnow]

Well she kinda does the money she earns from properties owned

[empty wren]

So they do not have to do any real breakthroughs

[empty wren]

Can someone assassinate her, not sure why people fall for her even without properties money

Like she ain't that great, her son died before her

Also gossip is bad but I bet she tore the family apart

[shadow minnow]

I don’t think assassinating the queen is the cool thing to do ngl
Like I don’t see her as being a current danger to anything. Especially not in a way they couldn’t be dealt with otherwise like jail or just removal from power lol

[empty wren]

No, and you are right

But why does the royalty even exist

With so many people suffering in the UK

[ashen spindle]

because the current ones were alive when they still had colonies and slavery and all that but thats really going a bit beyond tech now

[empty wren]

Sigh Britain is ancient I forgot

Well least it ain't greece

Stage 5 demographic transition

[wheat plume]

Don't like 60% of the tax money go to funding the royal family in UK?

[empty wren]

I would not be suprised

Inb4 queen hogs all public healthcare

[wheat plume]

Basically

[shadow minnow]

Honestly I don’t see it as such a big issue as long as they don’t have real power or really take up more than small ammount of money

[empty wren]

She does have some power

[shadow minnow]

Well from what I heard they make more money to UK than spend though I may be wrong

[ashen spindle]

they literally would be a dead country if that much would go to the monarchy but again, guys, this is #🔌│tech

[empty wren]

Not much anymore

[shadow minnow]

Yeah 60%

[wheat plume]

What you mean a small amount of money?
They could have fed the entirety of the UK on the money they used to fund the last royal family event

[shadow minnow]

I mean Norway is a monarchy yet a great country with great standards of living and everything

[empty wren]

https://c.tenor.com/NXucPn8GUucAAAAM/computer-whats-a-computer.gif

[empty wren]

Yeah even if was small, gathering from many people is still a lot

[frozen ingot]

technically sweden has a monarchy too but its mostly just an image thing

[empty wren]

[frozen ingot]

like its a tourist attraction

[empty wren]

Is that where flemi lives

[shadow minnow]

I don’t think so

[empty wren]

Anyways wicked is good

[wheat plume]

(is that a maze runner reference???)

[shadow minnow]

WCKD is good

[empty wren]

No

[wheat plume]

shame

[shadow minnow]

Yes

[empty wren]

Maybe

Possibly

[shadow minnow]

Never

[empty wren]

By chance

[shadow minnow]

Impossibly

[empty wren]

Always

Extremely unlikely

[shadow minnow]

Just as likely as it’s likely that WCKD is good

[empty wren]

Um sure

Suck it gen 1+

Asus is a ready

Though metal back would be nice

Since I bet fans are unlikely

[fair gull]

infinite cpu power

[old marlin]

infinite deleting power

[fair gull]

ngl im really unsure why its 0% usage

LOL

even taskmanager says 0/1%

[old marlin]

nice

you love buggy fw

[fair gull]

apparently aida now started the cpu stress test

[old marlin]

Rebuilding a drive now

[fair gull]

so i just assume the ryzen 9 3900x isnt that easily cooled by a wraith prism

[old marlin]

uhhh

depends on what you do

[fair gull]

stresstest

[old marlin]

roommate gets his to 90C with an NH-D15

[fair gull]

i mean on idle its at 50℃

[old marlin]

with max fan speed

[fair gull]

stresstest is 99

[old marlin]

oh

yea that is bad

even with a really terrible thermal paste job that should be better

[fair gull]

already repasted it since it was only powder at this point

[old marlin]

great

[fair gull]

but ya its not better than before

[old marlin]

damn 95 seems really high

[fair gull]

oh it goes between 95 and 99

[old marlin]

apparently normal

[fair gull]

wot

[old marlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ce6fx2/what_are_normal_temps_on_3900x_with_wraith_prism/

for that combination

85-90 in blender

[fair gull]

ah ya

[old marlin]

and aida usually is hotter

[fair gull]

i thought about smth like a dark rock 4 or smth

mostly concerned cause idle temps are already around 50

[old marlin]

unsure

might be overkill

but overkill cooling is prob good for 90% of the people you deal with

[fair gull]

i mean the guy isnt all too dumb but he is scared about breaking his cpu and gpu so i usually have to clean out the 2tons of dust

[old marlin]

yea

well not about being dumb

negligence can be enough

[fair gull]

most of my customers are too dumb to clean it even with a manual

or video

[old marlin]

or just too lazy

which is understandable imo

[fair gull]

gpu is also down from nearly 100 to 85 now

[old marlin]

lol

had a friend with sli 970s

one of which had a blower fan

and at one point he had BAD stutter in all games

[fair gull]

this also has a blower fan

[old marlin]

literally peeled of like 6-9mm of dust

in one piece

off from that cooler

[fair gull]

and this radeon looks already melted which i doubt is the case

[old marlin]

lol

[fair gull]

looks like real shit design

[old marlin]

5700xt?

[old marlin]

ye

[fair gull]

and yes

havent seen a stock one of those irl so i was sort of confused

[ashen spindle]

I think we still dont know the real reason for that design lol

[fair gull]

confusing technicians obviously

[old marlin]

looked too weird without

[fair gull]

so ya only need to somehow fix cpu

[old marlin]

5700 cooler looks straight up better imo

[fair gull]

now the real question is why this guys games caused the entire os to freeze except mouse cursor

[pale sigil]

Why is Amazon video so bad

[empty wren]

Cuz Amazon got really nothing on there

They got omniman

And that one show

About people having a digital afterlife

But that is it

[shadow minnow]

5G

[empty wren]

Ew

Bruh you got my wifi speeds

[empty wren]

Nani would that not be augmented reality

[mild dome]

Yeah, but everyone realized Augmented reality sucked after Google glass

[empty wren]

Eh.... I tried a hololens in Microsoft store was amazed

Sure probably not usable outside

When it bright out

[pale sigil]

i dont get the appeal of proton mail

their free tier seems so limiting

[shadow minnow]

Try positron mail instead

[astral haven]

Vr is aloooooot easier than ar

[astral haven]

No, they realized it was hard to do

[empty wren]

I agree but ar is so much more useful

I used it to measure banners before someone told me to stop and then we used a tape measure and we got the same measurements

I would love arrows to show arrows to my destination while I look around as well

[astral haven]

Then you are probably ok with virtual reality with passthrough

You don't need ar

[empty wren]

Uh no

I want something slimmer honestly

[astral haven]

Ar is inherently thicker

[empty wren]

Like look vr is cool and all but I got bored of it anyways

[astral haven]

"bored of VR" is a software issue not a hardware one inherently

[ashen spindle]

I think you dont quite get what passthrough would look like

[astral haven]

This

[empty wren]

You mean very bad feed of the real world

[astral haven]

Why bad?

[ashen spindle]

we're not in 1990s

[empty wren]

[empty wren]

Is it not like.black and white and grainy

[ashen spindle]

cameras to take very detailed feed exist for a long time

[astral haven]

Again software issue not hardware issue

[empty wren]

Maybe it has color by now by still grainy

[ashen spindle]

no, as in probably better than your phones camera level

[empty wren]

Alright, well in that case I rather depend on my eyes than cameras. Like sure all in one device is cool

[astral haven]

Have you ever thought a picture that a 2020 or later flagship cellphone was grainy?

[empty wren]

Depends

Where you take ot

But mostly no

[astral haven]

The same thing is gonna be the case with cambria

"indestinguishable from reality" means exactly what it says

[empty wren]

Worth a try I guess

[astral haven]

Yea

I wish the varjo of the world were cheaper...

What the heck autocorrect

[ashen spindle]

hahaha

[astral haven]

Varjo

[empty wren]

Yeah but varnonis top of the line

And they are already lowering price with every model

[astral haven]

Varonis?
Autocorrect really dislikes varjo

[empty wren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have not seen any other devices with μled

[ashen spindle]

btw

[empty wren]

Besides the wall

[empty wren]

Eha is that

[ashen spindle]

that is pass through

[empty wren]

Oh that is varjo

Not surprised they are pioneering a lot

[astral haven]

Not really

They are just putting in the expensive hardware to make it look good

[empty wren]

Nobody else is inlcuding all in one sustem

[astral haven]

Besides Facebook and valve and pico and etc

[empty wren]

Did valve have eye tracking

On the index

[astral haven]

It's just varjo is of higher quality

Valve made it easy to add 🤷

[empty wren]

Oh I see

[ashen spindle]

vive pro eye is the only big one with eye tracking for now but thats going to change fairly soon

[empty wren]

Ah htc

[astral haven]

That doesn't cost 4 or more figures

[empty wren]

Not sure how good tobii is

[ashen spindle]

yeah military and all that I ignored for the comparisons

[empty wren]

But not sure why meta or someone could not partner with them

[empty wren]

Military has nice shet

Infrared nightvision

[ashen spindle]

they also have overpriced shit for the most part

same hardware for consumers gets 10x the price tag if sold to the military

[astral haven]

Because it's cheaper and more future proof to use cameras

Facebook is going for entire face tracking

[empty wren]

Would be interesting if lidar could be used

[astral haven]

No it wouldnt

[empty wren]

But alright cheaper

[empty wren]

Why not

You could cover many bases

With fewer sensors

[astral haven]

Minimum distance

[empty wren]

Too far?

[astral haven]

And cameras are better in every way besides inherent depth

But

Image to depth is very far along and much higher res

[empty wren]

Does meta still use infrared

[astral haven]

You have to use wideband cameras outside

I think they use infrared only cameras inside

[empty wren]

Oh

[astral haven]

At least that's the plan

[lethal gulch]

Any way we could get added some user programed rgb?

So we could mess around with paterns and color order ourselves?

[ashen spindle]

you can use the rgb SDK if you want to code around or try something like aurora for more customisation

[fair gull]

artemis

not aurora

or openrgb

[ashen spindle]

oh did it change

[fair gull]

artemis is the continuation

aurora is kinda dead

openrgb is the more os agnostic tool

[ashen spindle]

gotcha

[fair gull]

but ya artemis is prob nice if you dont wanna code an entire tool yourself

since it gives you JS and a lot of connections to the OS and other shit

also layering

and layer mixing

[fair gull]

idk how i did it but i lost a database

its just gone

[crimson wigeon]

This is why blockchain is the future

[fair gull]

no like

the entire thing is gone

as if it didnt exist

no logs

no log folder

no binaries

no configs

no data

how the shit did i lose a mysql db

[wheat plume]

🤔 additonal permissions? wat now

[fair gull]

oh no its gone

and idk why

it wasnt super important

only had like 20gb of map data or smth

not too hard to rerun dynmap fullrender again

just eats some time

ya

but i think i know where it went

think i accidentally forgot to remove mysql from the iredmail removal script

i never bothered for the dynmap db

ideally id wanna know how to get postgre working in papermc

since that gets backed up daily

literally the reason why i even use mysql is cause i just couldnt figure out how to use postgre java connector in papermc

eh

ill just rerun it

i mean u could enlighten me on the postgre thing if you know whats wrong there

[wheat plume]

I just learned that most carriers in the USA block phones from their netwrok if they weren't bought from the carrier directly :/

[reef patrol]

Yeah... we got rid of that ages ago in the EU. Well the good countries anyway 😄

The concept of a carrier locked phone is so old, I genuinely can't remember the last time that was a thing.

[empty wren]

Eh not so much

Now the situation now is you lose like volte

Or wifi calling

Some phones though use an exclusive carrier

Sucks to not be able to use the RAZR flip anywhere

[wheat plume]

My mom's previous phone was locked
That was in 2018

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

Phones still get locked here

But you can pay off contract or phone to get them unlocked

[reef patrol]

Here you just get locked into a contract. So you can just change to another carrier, but you need to keep paying.

[ashen spindle]

https://pcisig.com/blog/announcing-pcie®-70-specification-doubling-data-rate-128-gts-next-generation-computing

[empty wren]

Tf

Weird

[ashen spindle]

pcie 7 targeted for 2025

[empty wren]

Bruh did we not get to pcie 4recently

[ashen spindle]

yea but the spec kinda needs to be made before the products get made

[empty wren]

Oh

So pxie 7 like 2030

[ashen spindle]

nah

[empty wren]

Okay

Well anyways I thought everything already was so fast

[ashen spindle]

yes thats what people said in the 90s too

[empty wren]

Well I guess not for 4k

But I would be happy with like 1600x900 90z μled

[ashen spindle]

pcie is not just for gpus

[empty wren]

I know

Ssd

Network

Basically anything

But GPUs use it cuz it has lot of speed

Oh expansion cards too

Might sound stupid but thunderbolt on a desktop sounds cool

At least on the front

[astral haven]

It's actually pretty neat yep

I can plug my laptop straight into my desktop to charge it for example lol

And it can copy files over the network pretty fast that way

[empty wren]

Yeah I would love fast front I/O

And it being USB c

Still want a card reader though

Of course

[astral haven]

That one isn't super common on cases

[empty wren]

Oh c?

If so yeah like I think at most I saw like 2

And both were on the back sometimes you get lucky and get one on the front

[wheat plume]

[reef patrol]

Plebs

[empty wren]

I see only 5

Where is the 31,999,995 other ones

Aso square/rectangle discrimination

And this phone would anger Taylor Swift

[empty wren]

Thank you

But still missing 31 million

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

Come on

Do the magic

Jazz hands

Also they out hd camera on the bottom

So is it not a phone anymore

But a camera

That comes of 32 million sensors with their lenses

Therefore creating high resolution but with a click

[pale sigil]

Im not entirely sure how it is these days here since I don't use contracts but in 2018 I think they would unlock if you rang

The UK's mobile networks are to be forbidden from selling phones locked to their services from December 2021.

Nvm

[astral haven]

No I meant card readers

[empty wren]

ah okay

[empty wren]

If only it was like that here

Not sure how many phones are forever a carrier brick if you try to use a new network

Though at least gsm is now gonna have to be nationwide

[brisk forge]

is it worth getting the AVR chip over the ARM chip because it will ship sooner or should i just wait longer for ARM

[crimson wigeon]

Entirely up to how patient you are

[brisk forge]

How big is the diffrence between chips?

[crimson wigeon]

Behind the learn more link on the website

The microcontroller unit (in short MCU) is the brains of the keyboard and influences both on-the-fly storage capacity (similar to RAM memory) and performance of the keyboard (similar to a CPU).

The ARM model is more powerful than the AVR model but has a future delivery date. The AVR model has limited stock left.

The performance and features of both models are and will be comparable until January, 2024. After which we expect to exceed the capabilities of the AVR model and can't make the same guarantee anymore.

There is one notable difference. The ARM model has twice the available configuration slots for advanced features such as DKS, Mod-tap, and other potential advanced key configuration we might create.

[brisk forge]

ok so both chips have the same capabilities as of now besides less advanced config slots slots

in short ARM is for really long term use

[crimson wigeon]

Pretty much

[fair gull]

we dont really know exactly since we dont know what arm chip is used

[halcyon moss]

\

[wheat plume]

Samsung, Xiaomi and Google are being sued for including a feature in Android that estimates how long your battery will last

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/296056/pci-sig-announces-pci-express-7-0-specification-to-reach-128-gt-s

PCIe 6 where

[old marlin]

what

[wheat plume]

https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/samsung-sue-patent-battery

It's an algorithm that estimates battery life based on phone usage and open apps

And the people who made it are suing

[cursive summit]

Ah so patent sharks

Nothing new here

Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures

[halcyon moss]

@wheat plume nex t time you need to chart something, look into mermaidjs

[wheat plume]

Oo
Right
Tbf, the only time I had to chart shit was during my work placement and I had to use python

[halcyon moss]

ok, better phrasing
next time you ned to diagram something, use mermaidjs

https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid/#/README

[wheat plume]

Oooohhh

[halcyon moss]

its not perfect though 🙂

[crimson wigeon]

Gah, they're gonna take away my free GitHub copilot unless I become open source maintainer! Bastards!