🔌│tech

[astral haven]

Fpgas are very dead past the 10g/40g era
And those Asics often have numerous arm cores

[vagrant pagoda]

if youre going to call that a server than my oven is a datacenter lol

deciated power, cooling and serves data

lol

[astral haven]

If you are doing authentication, bgp, dns forwarding, and DHCP, you are a server 4 different ways

[vagrant pagoda]

a core router isnt doing any of that other than some sort of secure tunnel to get and sync routes

[astral haven]

A core router is absolutely running bgp
Probably also ospf

[vagrant pagoda]

bgp is done on asic

atleast cisco and juniper do

[mild dome]

I visited a data centre that used gigantic flywheels for an UPS. Cool place

[astral haven]

Yes and those Asics have imbedded
Wait for it
Arm cores

[vagrant pagoda]

those are dope, they make line frequency dead nuts solid too

they are the best for short under/over voltages

yes but they arent used for bgp, its done in the asic

they load the prefixes in memory from the managment side

but the only thing that touchs packets is the asics

[mild dome]

I did have a UPS once when I was in uni, battery powered thing. However then it shorted and blew my PCs power supply
If I get another one I think I might pay for a quality one that guarantees hardware replacement if my PC gets exploded

[astral haven]

You mean this asic?

[vagrant pagoda]

APC is the standard, ive had to use their warranty a few times, never had an issue

[astral haven]

I'm looking into upses and I want an Eaton lifepo4 model

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah notice how 80% of that block isnt the arm core....

its almost like there is dedicated hardware for most functions

[astral haven]

Sure
But no matter if you are calling it dedicated hardware or ffus
It's serving and processing data

Like you can't not use bgp
And bgp requires storing all the latencies to all your neighbors

And often all your neighbors neighbors

[vagrant pagoda]

and you act like that cant be done via asic

[astral haven]

No I don't, you act like an asic serving data isn't a server...

[vagrant pagoda]

you need a forklift for those goalposts?

[astral haven]

Speak for yourself
I've been consistent

[astral haven]

Like I never said your oven wasn't a server lol

[vagrant pagoda]

i never said it was

[astral haven]

But a datacenter?
Dunno usually the electronics in a datacenter aren't intentionally baked lol
And as for my definitions, airflow internal to one device is not managed
Managed is when a device doesn't have full control over it's airflow

For example if you got a reversed airflow version of a server, if the number of servers that overheat thanks to that is greater than just itself, it's managed (this is an example, not a definition)

[latent mural]

Is anyone here a network expert

[astral haven]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[latent mural]

That reminded me, by chance have you had any experience with KEMP LoadBalancer (Free Version). If Yes, can you integrate KEMP to a OPNSENSE server in a VM

[astral haven]

I just use cloudflare free personally
And for my work, we don't have a proper loadbalancer

[latent mural]

Much appreciate it for your feedback

[misty saffron]

i’ve heard web people use nginx as load balancer 🤔

[astral haven]

From what I read you should probably just switch to xcp-ng as your hypervisor

[astral haven]

That's just for web
Not a general loadbalancer for vms

[misty saffron]

oh

vms

ew

[latent mural]

why so, I'm curios since I just started fiddling with homelab and such

[astral haven]

If it's for homeland use proxmox because it's easier
But xcp-ng is basically the higher security more featured proxmox

[astral haven]

Find some hardware that costs less than 100k that guarantees 5 9s of uptime

With 20k and 2 sites you can get years of uptime as long as you can seamlessly failover vms

[latent mural]

would this be accurate

[astral haven]

Eh

Dunno

[latent mural]

LMAO

[astral haven]

Think hyper v vs virtualbox

Hyper-v is stronger and more features but a pain to get started
Virtualbox is ez

[latent mural]

Makes sense

[wheat plume]

If I buy an air blower
A small one
To de-dust my computer

How would I clean the CPU cooler with it? Without blowing the dust further into the cooler?
Top down?

[ashen spindle]

im sure there will be a dozen youtube videos showing it

[crisp granite]

opposite direction fans blow

easier to clean GPUs with them outside the PC

and it is easy to remove em

[wheat plume]

CPU though

Will I have to remove the cooler??

[crisp granite]

nah

[ashen spindle]

no

[crisp granite]

but you will probably want to have a vacuum cleaner handy after you blow the dust onto your mobo

at least it'll be loose and in clumps that should clean up easy

[empty wren]

Depending on how much time it has been there is a good chance a duster/vacuum will not be enough

[ashen spindle]

it will be since its only as much that we dont even know it's the cause of issues

[empty wren]

Fair enough

[wheat plume]

Idk the issue either

It was fully powered off and unplugged for 12 days while I was away
Then I booted it back up
Did Linux updates that were pending
Updates failed
Reinstalled Linux

Went over to windows to play some games
It shut down after a while in cyberpunk
But I thought that might be because I had modded cyberpunk

So I played Forza for a while and that didn't cause it to shut down

Then I booted to Linux
Played distance for about 40 minutes then it shut down

So the problem isn't the OS it seems

And I don't think distance is as heavy of a game as Forza considering I get above 150fps always on distance

[old marlin]

If it is dust temps would rise up significantly

And you would get slowdowns before it crashes

[ashen spindle]

also thats not how that works, has nothing to do with it

[wheat plume]

No

I didn't

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume just put your cooler in the sink

[fair gull]

just turning off usually means cpu overheating super drastically or psu failure

[wheat plume]

it doesnt even seem to crash, it sounds the same as if I power it off from the OS menu

and firefox or Chrome werent like "the browser closed unexpectedly" like they would if they crashed

[thick elk]

for vm's I always just use kvm, with virtual machine manager it works like charm.

[empty wren]

https://www.swiftpoint.com/products/content-creator-mice?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=creatorlaunch

[wheat plume]

On a fullsize board, is the key above tab the ` symbol?

[sudden glacier]

yes ``~`

[wheat plume]

IM FUCKING STUPID

HOLY SHIT

WHY AM I SO DUMB?????

Spent like 15 minutes installing the HyperX software to assign Q and W's fn layer to type ~ and ` respectively

Saved that to the keyboard profile
All good

Then I look at the damn preview in the software and see that those symbols are already bound to the ESC Key

But on my keyboard they dont show it on the esc keycap that they are there
CAUSE I REPLACED THE DAMN PREINSTALLED KEYCAP WITH THE LOGO KEYCAP INSTEAD 🤦‍♀️

[sudden glacier]

[old marlin]

They just release the same mouse three times

[old marlin]

when does windows update disk useage

[old marlin]

man I really wonder how this could go wrong

only writing a few dozen files a second 24/7

[ashen spindle]

aaand we got a new one

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/researchers-exploit-new-intel-and-amd-cpu-flaw-to-steal-encryption-keys/

[old marlin]

so uhhh

according to windirstat the drive only got 12. something GB written but windows reports something closer to 70GB

[rancid roost]

Jup, windows10 is reserving a few GBs for itself, usually 66-70GB. Dependant on language, update history and Windows type 🙂

Assuming u got win10

[old marlin]

no

I deleted like 67GB worth of tiny af files

around 400 million of them

is not even the main drive

I would just restart the server if that was an option rn

[fair gull]

prob takes some times for it to update

[fair gull]

windirstat would show those anyway

[fair gull]

is it a critical volume?

if not just set it to offline and then online in diskmgmt

[old marlin]

Yep

[fair gull]

just mark it as offline

[rancid roost]

Oh we talkin servers. I thought were talking desktops.

[fair gull]

its the same there tho?

[rancid roost]

Win version should be different?

At work we use win enterprise and stuff

[fair gull]

yes but it does the same stupid shit

cause the kernel is the exact same

heck most stuff is the same

[rancid roost]

Nah files re different. Drivers and kernels are the same.
Different “packages” for different functionalities

Duplicate cleaner can help aswell 🙂

[fair gull]

havent worked with way too many servers its barely different

heck N versions of windows are more different than server is

[rancid roost]

More important question is: Why is windows running on your servers?
Be smart, use Linux

Be a man, use vim 😉

[fair gull]

cause its not always an option depending on who the server belongs to?

[rancid roost]

Oh they are not yours.. Minor detail we were missing out until now

[fair gull]

idk in yamas case but i got way too many customers that just want 1 windows server for some software of theirs

and DC

smaller companies also wont shell out money for a machine that could virtualize everything

many times barely running winserver on baremetal

many times even reusing old licenses cause they gotta cut all those euros

for whatever reason

[rancid roost]

Another moment for the meme in which the whole civilization relies on a piece of code that barely holds itself together since 20 years.

[fair gull]

its what it is

i dont reallycare

[rancid roost]

I do

[old marlin]

We don't make the software that runs on it

[fair gull]

oh ya nother thing

if u want me to run linux

[old marlin]

And no

[fair gull]

get all those office tools to run on it

[old marlin]

There is no linux alternative for machine software

[fair gull]

lol

dem cncs and shit

[rancid roost]

Were still talking servers, not desktops are we

[old marlin]

There isn't even much of an alternative to begin with

Yes

[rancid roost]

Great for vms tell me what u want

[old marlin]

It literally is a vm

[rancid roost]

Great for your little library

Desktop use no

[old marlin]

?

[fair gull]

?

[old marlin]

Tf are you on about

[rancid roost]

Linux

It guys re like feminists

[old marlin]

???

[rancid roost]

Tell them smth and theire triggered

[fair gull]

https://tenor.com/view/harold-hide-the-pain-harold-smile-gif-21804346

[old marlin]

When did i ever say linux is straight up superior

[fair gull]

yes

[old marlin]

I use windows myself on all my desktops

For a stable server enviroment i would MUCH prefer a linux

Since it is more stable

[fair gull]

😮 next thing u gonna tell me is linux can virtualize windows

[old marlin]

No way

[fair gull]

windirstat still shows those

[old marlin]

I know which files took up the space

they are gone

[fair gull]

so?

[old marlin]

the explorer GUI doesn't update

so I am a bit concerned

[fair gull]

ok as i assumed

its windows being modern again

[halcyon moss]

@wheat plume i had this for an underspecced psu. it would also not turn on for a bit

[fair gull]

like if its windows shutting down u can see it telling you its shutting down

if it just goes black and leds off its the psu overloading

and doing what its supposed to

shut off and dont catch fire

a surprisingly hard task these days i heard

btw i had to order an fm2 proc today

60buckos for basically no processing power these days

[wheat plume]

hhhmmmm

[reef patrol]

So the Macbook Air doesn't have a display?

[wheat plume]

worse display xd

no wit, the pro is worse display

[halcyon moss]

worse display? its not the same?

[fair gull]

no?

its .3 inches smaller on the pro and having 64px less in width but a higher ppi

aka better

also pro has no notch afaik

camera is like the one thing the air does better afaik

1080p

vs the 720p pro cam

but ngl i dont think anyone gives 2 shits

[ashen spindle]

whoever made that reddit checklist cared I guess

or most likely video checklist from something

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/RPE7ocwm2Aw

[junior ore]

Over priced tech that is made to be unrepairable

[wheat plume]

oooo, I love the window tinting

and floating panels <3

[junior ore]

Ill update my kde

[wheat plume]

I wanna swap over to AMD GPU so I can run Plasma again on my desktop

[fair gull]

yes but ill have to be honest and say the m1 macbooks ran damn well already

havent held a normal x86 notebook with the same power and batterylife

[halcyon moss]

the 6000 amds come close i believe

[ashen spindle]

doesnt come close in supply still lmao

[halcyon moss]

hah no lol :sad_face

[old marlin]

like 2 and a half hours before my long weekend

and I get more bigger problems

[halcyon moss]

this is the life

[old marlin]

welp

would need the machine to go empty

and got told "it is not my problem it is your problem"

[halcyon moss]

and then you managed expectations right?

[latent mural]

you know you got a good deal when you get a complete machine that beats i7-7700k in computing power while only costing 1/3 more than what 7700k goes for

[cursive summit]

Not a terrible deal

Probably got it half off that what it should be priced at

But it does seem not new and also, pretty old and limited in what it can do

[latent mural]

it depends on geolocation

[cursive summit]

I could probably fit together a 5600G system for 300$

And that'd be a wee bit better than what you got there

But hey it seems alright, good haul

[latent mural]

in U.S. from what I have seen is that a group of "InVeStOrS" would buy these office machines and servers cents on the dollar thinking they are EntrEprRnEurS

[old marlin]

lol

[cursive summit]

Anyways

Still looking into getting a new rig built

[old marlin]

there is a lot of money to be made with that kinda system

7700k way too overkill for that tho

[cursive summit]

6800XT STILL overpriced

3070 stagnating

I'm guessing my local retailers bought these cards for too much and are not willing to sell them for any lower

[old marlin]

what is "overpriced" to you?

they are goin for 500€ by now

[old marlin]

3070 is at 600 roughly

[old marlin]

tf

a

6800xt

[cursive summit]

I'm telling you my local stuff is far too overpriced

[old marlin]

~780 for those

[cursive summit]

I'd buy that in a heartbeat

[old marlin]

dat price gap

[latent mural]

at my local best buy they have discounts

[cursive summit]

So funny thing is

6800XT here is 1000$

[old marlin]

most models are 1k € as well

[cursive summit]

6900XT price matches 6800XT

[old marlin]

what country?

[cursive summit]

Tf is the point of getting the 6800XT then

[cursive summit]

Little country called Lithuania

[old marlin]

rip

[cursive summit]

Like at this point I'm getting a 6900/6950

[latent mural]

why not wait for the anticipated RX7000s series?

[old marlin]

ye

[cursive summit]

Don't really want to wait until October

Or november for that matter

[latent mural]

the jump is huge from what I have heard

[cursive summit]

Yes it is

You know what's also huge? TDP

Idk I'm still waiting for now, but I'm rather sad about these prices

[latent mural]

I'm married to my GTX 1080ti Strix and got engaged when she was released

[cursive summit]

Kinda kinky

[old marlin]

sold my 1080ti earlier this year

had it for like 2 months

[cursive summit]

I wish I bought a 2080Ti when retards sold it for 500$ to get 3000 series

[old marlin]

lol

[latent mural]

that card literally would refuse to die

[old marlin]

well used 3000 series is goin cheaper now

[old marlin]

why should it

[latent mural]

That's true

[fair gull]

it ages like fruit flies

[old marlin]

lol

[empty wren]

Strange to me as well because it is another Tracer

[old marlin]

the tracer was the second one already

the swiftpoint z was the first one with that shape etc

that is from 2017

[formal vortex]

gl to vidia and amd when cryptocunts are going under as we speak. see how many ppl will buy it

[ashen spindle]

probably about as many as always aka sold out on launch like it pretty much always has been for years

[formal vortex]

you can only hide behind a paperlaunch for so long

[ashen spindle]

what paperlaunch?

[formal vortex]

cant see how vidia and amd think they will keep on selling the same numbers when mining is dying as we speak. there will be price pressure (hopefully^tm)

let alone the million of mining cards in the secondary market

[ashen spindle]

second hand market doesnt influence prices of cards that are much faster than any thing old can do?

oh I'll take one over a used gaming card from dusthell every time

yeah and if it ever was right it's been wrong for years at least

[halcyon moss]

GPU manufacturer, Palit Microsystems, is advising against

[ashen spindle]

^

[halcyon moss]

the silicon does not really wear out

[ashen spindle]

it's pretty much the same risk as any other second hand card, if you get it from a miner who never removed dust it will be worse, if you get it from a miner who cleaned it when he had it, mining would have used less power than some games do

[formal vortex]

miners want you to believe they are selling you fresh cards that dont take any damage running 356 days a year, gpu manufacturer wants to sell you new card. anyway, hope they all suffocate on their supplies

[ashen spindle]

New world killed 3090s, mining doesnt

[halcyon moss]

could be the fans and dust and heat pads not being as good anymore

[ashen spindle]

nah pcgamer is fine usually

[fair gull]

id just call it blown out of proportion

[old marlin]

overall mining cards are prob better off besides fans

since they typically have less heat cycles than gaming cards

[fair gull]

thing that kills most electronics is heat cycling aka turning on and off in most cases

[old marlin]

dunno where the rumor with silicon wear even comes from

[halcyon moss]

but thats not even a thing really for chips

[old marlin]

we got no data to support it

[ashen spindle]

the article even goes into how palit would have an interrest to sell you new cards and dont take it at face value

[old marlin]

the BGA connections care

[empty wren]

It ain't that bad of a buy, people keep mining rigs usually open and well cooled

[fair gull]

the issue is the difference in thermal expansion between the silicon chips and the pcb substrate

thats why u get cracked bga joints and stuff

most notorious for this is laptops

[ashen spindle]

anyway, any form of second hand card can be dead after two weeks because both desktop and mining gpus can be killed if you never dedust them etc.

[fair gull]

im happy with my 2080ti and dont really plan to upgrade

[ashen spindle]

they will as always start with the launch of the most expensive cards, that's how it always has been and makes sense from a sales point

also the huge wait for a big upgrade came with current gen since last gen was a bit of a joke

so there shouldn't be a demand from another gen stacked on it

and its still more cards so it's unlikely even if supply cant keep up that old stock goes expensive again since the old cards didnt just vanish

[cursive summit]

DON'T PLAY WHILE DRIVING

[ashen spindle]

in theory much higher demand should be baked into the launches but I'm not gonna say anything for certain when russia could just decide to kill some supply chains xD

[cursive summit]

Also imagine being from a country which has the steering wheel on the right

[pale sigil]

Not driving

[halcyon moss]

hes on the wrong side of the car anyway

[fair gull]

the road u mean

[empty wren]

What if car drives itself

[halcyon moss]

no such thing yet. unless you have a chauffeur.

[empty wren]

There is

But very very very early testing

And expensive

Pretty sure it has a VR headset you can put on as well

[halcyon moss]

yea def not available for mr pleasant

[fair gull]

but he got a chauffeur

how else is he riding the car

[pale sigil]

Played some killing floor 2/wwz and some other random game.

It's a beast

Can't wait to get mine

Really impressed with perf

Especially in wwz

Which was on high

It does get hot though

[fair gull]

im sorry cal

did u have a stroke?

[pale sigil]

@fair gull always

[fair gull]

i didnt ask if you stroked yourself

[wheat plume]

Someone managing SteamOS at Valve is a brony :')

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/v84996/interesting_choice_for_a_volume_mixer_there_valve/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[ashen spindle]

I dont think thats how that works just because some open source package was included..

[wheat plume]

why specifically ponymix? XD

[ashen spindle]

is there another tool that does the same?

[wheat plume]

anyone know if SteamOS is using Pipewire audio?

[fair gull]

it does

[wheat plume]

Im just curious

[ashen spindle]

if there are other tools they might not have a feature or it just works and no need to try something else

personally I couldnt care less if a package would scream profanities at me as long as it works

sure, but then the question is who cares

[wheat plume]

nah, its just funny they chose this particular mixer

[fair gull]

looking at pamixer

https://discordjs.moe/p75gldtby3b7.png

it has some feature requests that i can imagine ponymixer does better

[misty saffron]

yes, i too choose tools just based on the name

[empty wren]

Care to share some examples

[wheat plume]

Firefox is a better name than Chrome

mhahahaaha

[astral haven]

Solid disagree

I mean for a Pokemon sure, but I don't want my browser to be on fire and run away from me when it sees me

[reef patrol]

Chrome

Not even chrome coloured.

https://tenor.com/view/normani-kordei-sweetener-tour-fifth-harmony-literally-what-gif-14464386

[cursive summit]

Uhhh

Lads

Moondrop's not doing just weeb TWS earbuds anymore

[astral haven]

To Chrome is the act of treating with chromium, used on metals to make them more durable and shinier
Chrome is more pretty than ie and less breakable vs Firefox and made out of chromium
Perfectly fitting
Also the color chrome is bright yellow

[wheat plume]

HiFI keyboard??

built in speakers? XD

[final flame]

actually this is really cool

even better if has a actually competent dacamp

great for short iem cables

[wheat plume]

oo

[old marlin]

why do you mention that instead of their great budget options

[wheat plume]

Wait, all their earphones have weeb packaging?

[astral haven]

Yep

[wheat plume]

aha

[fair gull]

idk who told u chromium is bright yellow

[astral haven]

Chromium is used for chromium yellow and chromium oxide green

[fair gull]

chromium yellow isnt pure chromium

chromium is silver grey

[astral haven]

Pure chromium is colorless

It gets color from one of it's several oxidation states

It has -4 to +6 oxidation states and they are all different colors

[fair gull]

pure chromium is not white

pure chromium is a silver-grey metalic color

[astral haven]

Reflectivity is not color

[fair gull]

my man if u scratch it up its fuckin grey

every scientific resource also says its silver-grey

In the pure form of chromium or say in the free elemental state of chromium it is silvery metallic colour or steely-grey in colour and it is lustrous. And it is also a very hard and brittle transition element.
Only in the pure form it has this silvery metallic colour but in combined state chromium compounds are divergent vibrant colored compounds.
Compounds like dichromate, chromates of potassium, sodium, ammonium alums etc. are colored compounds.

if it was bright yellow the reflections would all have a bright yellow tint

because believe it or not something reflective has a color and it can be non reflective aswell

[pale sigil]

NOPE

[ashen spindle]

lololol

yea pay double for mediocre product? sounds reasonable

[shadow minnow]

Seems reasonable

[wheat plume]

oooooooo

you can put two commands together for google nest

[empty wren]

at least they warn you

[pale sigil]

ill just do the whole routine of leaving

[empty wren]

ISPS here just charge you more

[pale sigil]

and then they offer me a new contract

[wheat plume]

"Hey Google, change the light to purple and change the brightness to 30%"

[shadow minnow]

Can it be unrelated though?

Change the light to purple and what’s the time?

[wheat plume]

YEP

[pale sigil]

OMG there's a new providor

[shadow minnow]

One year of this prices probably

[pale sigil]

nvm 😦

[pale sigil]

2

[ashen spindle]

nice prices lmfao

[pale sigil]

i cant get it

[ashen spindle]

it was a joke

its not nice prices lol

[pale sigil]

for the uk it is

[empty wren]

Bruh no way

I get 2MB/s for $25

[ashen spindle]

think its 45€ for gigabit for me

need to check

[shadow minnow]

Last year this was like 25€ in Slovakia

Idk if that changed

Oh, nvm, sorry

It’s actually 20.90€ atm

[pale sigil]

its always a case of ringing up and saying im leavin

[cursive summit]

UK is always a shithole

@pale sigil do you have TV cable?

Or does BBC come barging at your door every 2 days saying you have to buy a license?

[pale sigil]

DOCSIS 3.1/Coaxal

[pale sigil]

Mum pays for the TV license

if i had my own place id tell em to fuck off

[cursive summit]

Bruh

[reef patrol]

I'm amazed you still haven't rolled that into the taxes.

[cursive summit]

Imagine having a law that says you legally have to have a TV cable

[pale sigil]

What

No

[cursive summit]

Fuck that

[pale sigil]

The law is you have to pay a license to receive TV signals

[cursive summit]

I don't have nor need or want TV

[pale sigil]

Still shit like

[reef patrol]

Literally every country has a budget for state TV and Radio.

It's part of the culture and museums portfolio.

[pale sigil]

They count any display as a potential source

[cursive summit]

And I use neither so thanks no thanks, not paying

[reef patrol]

Great - Let's close all the libraries and museums. Cause no one uses them.
Art? Fuck that - Let corporations take over. Et cetera.

[cursive summit]

Good thing here nobody actually asks for you to actually have a TV license

[reef patrol]

WHY ARE MY TAXES GOING TO STUDENTS? I AM AN ADULT WHO GRADUATED TWENTY YEARS AGO

rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[cursive summit]

Tbf other than VAT I do pay no taxes

[ashen spindle]

here its not part of the budget and people have to pay it directly to provide them money from not the government since we did have some years where state funded media did a bit too much propaganda

same cost in the end but removes the state being the one that pays the media

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/defund-the-bbc-bbc-no-tv-licence-no-television-licence-stop-tv-licence-fee-gif-24748244

[cursive summit]

Fuck BBC, Sky is my new best friend

[reef patrol]

Make tv a tax - everyone pays, everyone gets to complain.

[pale sigil]

Fuck Sky too (35 quid a month)

[ashen spindle]

and as much as I think mainstream media sucks I still take them over "journalists" like keemstar and other full blown idiots

[reef patrol]

We used to have a system like the UK (except less enforced cause we're not a surveillance dystopia). Made it a tax two years ago and suddenly the discourse on what should be funded with the media money is much more nuanced.

Cause everyone pays - and everyone gets a voice.

[cursive summit]

Yeah Sky is atrocious and far worse than BBC

[reef patrol]

The new system also costs a lot less for low income, cause now it's part of your taxes, not a flat fee per household.

[pale sigil]

Seriously though... id rather pay 25 quid for 60 down than 52 quid for 200 down

will suck

but refuse to pay 52 fucking quid

[reef patrol]

I will say this though - BBC is 200% too large for its budget. Shit like Doctor Who doesn't belong on state television. It's a Netflix budget show.

[pale sigil]

Have you ever watched Doctor Who

it has insanely low budget up until recently

Its also one of their most popular shows

[reef patrol]

Oh please. It's been funded out the ass since the revival.

[pale sigil]

totally

[reef patrol]

Do you have any idea how expensive CGI was in 2005? xD

TV Series CGI has -always- looked cheap and rushed compared to movies.

[pale sigil]

2007

[reef patrol]

Hell look at literally any of the capeshit shows. Supergirl, Flash etc...

[pale sigil]

[reef patrol]

2005

26 March 2005 to be specific, guvna'

[pale sigil]

that ep is from 2007

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDmraebK4FY

amazing cgi

[reef patrol]

You're kind of glossing over my point 😛

[pale sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Gw3os3e64

[reef patrol]

Let's see... The budget started in the region of about a million quid ... an episode.

Which is like 75% of a modern Arrow/Flash episode. Given very rough numbers.

But sure - Low budget series.

[cursive summit]

Tf is arrow

You people watch movies and stuff?

[reef patrol]

Discount batman with a bow.

[cursive summit]

Tf is flash?

[pale sigil]

Probably because Arrow has some of the worst effects on TV, same with most CW shows

but the actors are also whats costing them

[cursive summit]

I guess I'm pretty outdated having not watched TV since 2018

[reef patrol]

These are pre-famous numbers.

Switching actors every 2-3 seasons IS a clever budget choice though for BBC I admit.

[pale sigil]

Also His Dark Materials

cost BBC a fuck ton

[ashen spindle]

sounds like they have series they should not do then

[reef patrol]

And fucking sucks.

They've had two fucking seasons to get the plot going. But no. Let's take it nice and slow.

https://tenor.com/view/tired-bored-simon-pegg-sleepy-not-interested-gif-15469989

[pale sigil]

1m is not much

tbf

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/peter-capaldi-criticizes-the-bbc-for-doctor-whos-lacklustre-budget/

Capaldis series was full of cheapo stuff

[reef patrol]

1mil is not much
It is when you're comparing it with a US major network show.

[pale sigil]

Hell most of the set props are made by uni students for free

I know this because i knew said students during Jodis era

[ashen spindle]

so they overspend and underpay? double trouble

[pale sigil]

£1 million is literally nothing

compared to what it brings in

and BBC spend more on other shows

[reef patrol]

It is literally on par with major networks 😛

Returning to my original point - BBC has no business trying to compete with Netflix and HBO with public money.

[pale sigil]

The bodyguard from BBC cost them 6-7m per episode

for example

[reef patrol]

You're only helping my point here.

[ashen spindle]

next question why tf is it bringing money in, if you already pay for it why is there still ads in the program

[pale sigil]

Im saying Doctor Who is under budget

for what it is and what it brings in

[reef patrol]

And that is entirely off-topic to the original discussion 😄

That TV license you're trying to hide from? There's no reason why it's anywhere as big as it is - which is why turning it into tax based budgeting and actually putting a spending muzzle on the BBC would make it perfectly fair.

[pale sigil]

sales through other items, merch, digital sales, dvds etc

broadcast licensing too

[versed holly]

Has anyone tested an app called "FilterKeysSetter" ? Does it remove input lag?

[latent mural]

has anyone had a problem with discord where it's showing incorrect time/dates

[sudden glacier]

yea has been going on for a while

i had my phone's discord being 4 days behind, so all the messages were in the future

[latent mural]

thank you future @sudden glacier for letting me know

[sudden glacier]

took a screenshot of it

[latent mural]

anyone who sadly has schizophrenia are having a bad time

[mild dome]

I would love for DW to jave a bigger budget, but then I don't pay for a TV licence livin in oz

[fair gull]

any program you run on your pc adds input lag if anything

[fair gull]

if you want less input lag close as many apps as possible, have a keyboard with a high scanrate and 1 or 2khz polling at max to not fuck your cpu and have high actuation points

so close that dropbox, teamspeak, discord, razer synapse, logitech smth, browser etc

will do way more good for input latency

[crimson wigeon]

Enable the low input latency service

[pale sigil]

Told you I wasn't worried, not only did I get it set back to my current price but I'm not on 350 instead of 200

[ashen spindle]

hey you made it to 2nd world country level grats

[pale sigil]

Also found out my monthly average is 1.2tb

They thought I ran a server

[astral haven]

Good news for me is I got an option for 5 gigabit symmetrical fiber
The problem is it costs $190 a month
The slowest fiber is 100 symmetrical and costs 60 a month smh

Yay United states

[ashen spindle]

oh hey, at least you have the option, unless docsis 4 is suddenly done I dont see an option to upgrade from 1gig anytime soon in this country

thanks telekom

[astral haven]

Doccis doesn't do symmetrical?

[pale sigil]

Thing is I have no other options in the UK where I live

[pale sigil]

No

[ashen spindle]

3.1 doesnt have above 1 gig iirc

[astral haven]

Very sure you can't get over 200 upload

You can get 2 gigs down tho

[pale sigil]

Well here you get 1gb 100up

[ashen spindle]

ah ok nvm 3.1 can go above 1gig down they just dont offer that yet or have shit net

[pale sigil]

Isn't it because it's a hybrid still

For most

[astral haven]

Wow apparently it can do 10g down 1g up
But I believe that's per node not per user

[shadow minnow]

That’s not too much

[ashen spindle]

yea could be, either way they still push that instead of 4.0 so at some point it will stagnate again

[astral haven]

Apparently 4.0 is gonna improve upload a ton

[astral haven]

And no they can't because that's per node
Alot of people share the same node

[ashen spindle]

thats what I mean, yea could be that its per node

but 4.0 is still not out and it seems they want to put 3.1 out and then go back and do another upgrade so it will take some time

[astral haven]

4.0 is the same down but better up

[pale sigil]

Considering I never torrent

[ashen spindle]

you gotta start replying to the right things

since I dont think you torrenting relates to vodafone not offering over 1gig here

also <insert german rant about VDSL vectoring causing delays to fiber deployment>

[ashen spindle]

anyone got bored of hardware arriving in time? dont worry, intel still got you on delays yet again https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/intels-sapphire-rapids-shipment-delay-to-2q23-is-detrimental-to-intel-and-its-server-supply-chain-a1de691bd093

[fair gull]

hey thats what i got except i pay 35

[ashen spindle]

cost adjusted for poor country

[fair gull]

😦

[shadow minnow]

I could get it 20.90€ in any city but where I live no cable at all

Best I can get is like 50/12 for that price with 2tb cap (after some negotiations )

[empty wren]

Wow lucky

There are some place in the US it can be good

But very few sadly in very few states

[astral haven]

Well
5g symmetrical being available is a good sign for the future

[empty wren]

There is an outage concern though, at least on TMobile

[astral haven]

No

5gbit

[empty wren]

Oh

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/vdgfp0/i_requested_a_new_carry_case_for_my_512_steamdeck/

[astral haven]

Also if you wanna go wireless, you need to get antennas mounted otherwise problems

[fair gull]

so someone requested 10 cases and got 10

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1536741622037327873?s=20&t=KeLwbuX1LyyiBGqtIcwnVQ

Cary Golomb (@carygolomb)

#SteamDeck Upgrades Hoooooo!

Thanks @GuliKitDesign for sending these my way. Video will be incoming soon

Likes

237

Twitter · Jun 14, 2022, 4:05 PM

[astral haven]

The current joysticks are electromagnetic
They probably mean hall effect

[fair gull]

they do

its hall effect

[pale sigil]

^

[astral haven]

Sweet
I have hall effect joysticks on my drone and it's so nice
Really don't understand why game controllers don't come with them

[old marlin]

do you realize what you are saying

[astral haven]

Yes

All electronics are electromagnetic

[old marlin]

all electronics are optoelectric

since you can see them

[astral haven]

No

Optoelectric means there is something interfacing between the two

"Opto-electronics (or optronics) is the study and application of electronic devices and systems that find, detect and control light, usually considered a sub-field of photonics"

[old marlin]

electromagnetic encoder implies that the magnetic part is relevant

[astral haven]

The magnetic part is relevant

It's just not the sensing mechanism

[old marlin]

oh

might as well name it as long as possible then

google "electromagnetic encoder"

don't be so petty

[astral haven]

Or call it a hall effect encoder...

[old marlin]

if it is named after the electric principle or the physics that allow it are basically irrelevant?

unless you have another way of making use of electromagnetism to sense something

[vagrant pagoda]

Some do

Nice ones atleast

[old marlin]

very few do

[vagrant pagoda]

My wheel, stick and pedals are hall effect

Throttle isn't

[old marlin]

reason is cost in the end

[astral haven]

Electromagnetic encoder is like saying electric computer
It's heavily implied already...

[old marlin]

it is you being petty

[vagrant pagoda]

They are always petty

[old marlin]

if they say electromagnetic you can assume they don't wanna say "oh it is also made of atoms"

they obv say it because it is fundamental behind the principle they use to sense

[astral haven]

🤷‍♀️ but why call it electromagnetic when they mean hall effect

[old marlin]

cause the hall effect uses electromagnetism

they are not wrong

and it is not just some random word

[vagrant pagoda]

I want to get a fancy strain guage stick though

[astral haven]

A standard rotary encoder is using electromagnetism

[vagrant pagoda]

They are fancy

[old marlin]

no

[astral haven]

Yes it is

[old marlin]

electromagnetism is entirely irrelevant for contact based encoders

[vagrant pagoda]

How dose current flow though it?

Lol

[old marlin]

ok

[astral haven]

Veriable resistance or variable capacitance it's beholden to the Maxwell equations no matter what

[old marlin]

might as well write on it that it is made of atoms

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol

[astral haven]

That's what you are suggesting...

[old marlin]

so uhhh

[astral haven]

Yes we know it's electromagnetic
Be more specific

[old marlin]

why does it matter what they write on

[vagrant pagoda]

Also most encoders now are all optical even if they look like they arent

It's easier to make

[old marlin]

they still specifically sense the electromagentism

[old marlin]

what

[vagrant pagoda]

Very few are contact based

[old marlin]

no

[vagrant pagoda]

Open up eBay encorders

[astral haven]

Joystick drift ones are all contact problems

[old marlin]

vast majority is still contact based

[astral haven]

Yep

[vagrant pagoda]

Last few I got where optical inside

[old marlin]

which controllers?

[astral haven]

^^

[old marlin]

also if you wanna get petty

do so over steelseries

for using "optomagnetic" switches

[vagrant pagoda]

No idea but they were little though mount pulse encoders

[astral haven]

Fuck steel series for many many reasons

[vagrant pagoda]

And for 50 cents I figured contact

By they were optical

[old marlin]

design

not steelseries designed mind you

is from an OEM

[astral haven]

Hall encoders for the main joysticks and an optical one for the scroll

[vagrant pagoda]

I'm still surprised my HE doesn't get any interference from my finger magnets

Only if I pull the switch do I get anything

On my flight stick I can drift it by running my fingers around the base

[astral haven]

Magnetism decreases in force with the square of distance

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah by the sensors in the stick base are further than the the thickness of the switch

[astral haven]

The wooting is designed for really really small distances and to ignore everything over

[vagrant pagoda]

I think they just have better noise rejection

Because there are so many keys moving close together

[astral haven]

Try from the bottom of the keyboard

[old marlin]

prob because once you have them above the magnets it wants to sense the difference is kinda irrelevant?

[vagrant pagoda]

My finger magnet is likely 100 times stronger than the switch magnet

[old marlin]

a

nvm then

[astral haven]

What makes you think that?

Generally 100x stronger requires more than 10x larger
And that wouldn't fit in a finger...

[vagrant pagoda]

They are 5x15 I believe

They are also n52

[astral haven]

@someone who knows things about the technical specs of the Lekker switches, what's the specs of the magnet in there

[vagrant pagoda]

Could also be orientation

On my left hand they alternate between N to tip and south to tip

I don't have also do the side to side ones

[wheat plume]

is this too hot for a GPU?

[vagrant pagoda]

Nah

90 is hot

Your under it

Get something like GPUz to show you if it's throttling

I can feel the 60hz from about a foot away at 10amps draw

Also I can find live wires in walls if I plug something like a big light or heater in

I can also run my hand over breakers and find ones that are loaded

But I also get really tricklish welding aluminum because of the frequency of the ac

Vfds are the most fun you can feel the speed without looking at the display

[ashen spindle]

now the question is can you tell the difference between 240 and 120V

[astral haven]

Ok the wooting magnets are 2.5mm diameter and look to be around 5mm tall?

[vagrant pagoda]

Split phase I can, but not really if it's single phase

I can tell us home 180* phases vs 3 phase split in apartments

You can feel the missing phase in apartment buildings

[shadow minnow]

I mean, it’s hot but if it’s hotter than it should be depends on the environment too

[sudden glacier]

stay under 90, 95 is usually the limit

[astral haven]

Nah

Even the lowest quality silicon has tjmax in the 110 range

Anything lower than that is bad temp sensor placement

[shadow minnow]

Still often the cap is lower than 110

Though adjustable in bios usually

[astral haven]

Basically if it's on, it's fine

[shadow minnow]

Yeah probably throttles at 90

[astral haven]

That's safety limits not physical

[shadow minnow]

Yeah

[sudden glacier]

i dont think you would even want to reach physical limit

[astral haven]

That means it can do at least 100 before hurting itself

[sudden glacier]

you like living on the edge

[shadow minnow]

Well the higher you go the more it hurts itself overtime

Though the impact isn’t that high

[astral haven]

Yes but if it has a software limit of 90, you won't be able to get it to go over that

[shadow minnow]

Still 90 already does hurt it more than 60

Electromigration

And such

[astral haven]

There is zero effect from temperature
The only effects are from the temperature changing

If you turn on your computer in 30c weather and it goes up to 90 then back down it is less damage if you are at 0c and your computer goes up to 80c and then back down

[wheat plume]

idk wtf most of this info is

[ashen spindle]

it means your pc is fine and not close to melting like the other dozen times we said the same

[astral haven]

Both your CPU and GPU will thermal throttle themselves on their own and you don't have to worry

[shadow minnow]

Not entirely 0

Not for electromigration

More temperature = atoms move around more

[astral haven]

Higher temperature can cause electrons to jump around when they aren't suppose to
That isn't damage

Electromigration is when the electricity carries other atoms to places they aren't supposed to be

[wheat plume]

....ok

wtf

is this

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1537422164521013248

Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley)

Valve Deckard

Likes

683

Retweets

126

Twitter · Jun 16, 2022, 1:09 PM

Deckard got leaked, again

Looks pretty solid

Although can someone tell me wtf are these blobs on the rear of the strap

[old marlin]

top band and horizontal band tightness?

or wdym

[ashen spindle]

you know patents have this nice feature where you can look at the numbers and it says what the things are doing

[cursive summit]

If only I had the link to the patent

[ashen spindle]

if only that would be in the replies of the tweet you linked 😛

[empty wren]

Here

[cursive summit]

If you are implying it is, then I am going through the replies of the OP and I can't see it

Ah the guy's replies are cluttered, it's there

Steam VR Fest July 18th?

Wonder what the capabilities of this thing are

[crimson wigeon]

Does it connect directly to my brain

[cursive summit]

Only through the symbionic link

[astral haven]

X86 CPU, steamos, standalone and connectable wirelessly to a pc

[cursive summit]

Screen pixels, refresh?

That's more important

[astral haven]

Still up in the air

[cursive summit]

But prolly need to wait for announcement for that

[astral haven]

And it's very easy to change that

[ashen spindle]

neither are more important than wireless connection imo

[cursive summit]

[astral haven]

Agreed

[cursive summit]

Nah I'd rather have a good screen

[astral haven]

You currently have vr?

And I mean current gen

[cursive summit]

Yes

Quest 2

Dunno if that's really current gen

I suppose it is

[astral haven]

It is

[crisp granite]

that soon?

noice

I'll definitely pick up some VR games on the cheap

[astral haven]

It would be shocking if it were better than the quest screens by a noticeable amount

Unless it's a grand

[cursive summit]

Quest screen honestly leaves, at least for me, much to be desired

[astral haven]

The quest 2 is a $700 headset...

[cursive summit]

It is?

[astral haven]

Yep

[cursive summit]

Why tf did I buy it for 300$ new retail then

Did they hitch the price up?

[astral haven]

Facebook basically throws 400 in the trash for every one

They make it back from your data somehow?

[empty wren]

Yeah it is amazingly washes out, looks like a grey filter on it

[ashen spindle]

yup meta is heavily subsidizing it to get people on their platform

[cursive summit]

Dunno I use the oculus link all the time

[astral haven]

That isn't the screens it's the lenses

[chrome estuary]

the only way i'm using an oculus is via link

[empty wren]

Wow that is quite disappointing

[astral haven]

The lenses are the hard part

🤷

[cursive summit]

Dunno if honestly Quest 2 was the right choice

[astral haven]

If they were glass they would weigh 4x as much and cost 5x or 10x more

[cursive summit]

At the time I was debating between HP Reverb G2 and Quest 2

[empty wren]

Cannot beat the price for the hardware

[cursive summit]

I pulled the trigger on Quest cause G2 was on massive waitlist

[astral haven]

The g2 costs 1200 in the end since you need to replace the controller

[cursive summit]

But nowadays I kinda wish I got the G2

[ashen spindle]

g2 means you have to deal with windows mixed reality software, worse than oculus imo

and I already hate oculus software

[astral haven]

Meh the only problem is the controllers

[ashen spindle]

ruins my entire audio setup

[crisp granite]

the Quest 2 seems alright, but I don't want to jailbreak to use it

[astral haven]

The wmr software is actually fine

[crisp granite]

and I'm fine paying more for something with a warranty I don't need to immediately violate to use

[astral haven]

I mean it's bad but it's just about equal to the pre Facebook oculus software

[empty wren]

Just use a throwaway Facebook and never use it to post anything

[crisp granite]

so deckard looks like a serious contender

[cursive summit]

You can't even jailbreak it

[astral haven]

You can get your hardware bricked for that

[astral haven]

That's not true

[empty wren]

Say what

[crisp granite]

there's also that I'd be tempted to just use the oculus account for some VR games that are only on oculus store as well

[astral haven]

Yes

[cursive summit]

I had not heard of a Quest jailbreak

[crisp granite]

and the bricking hardware thing

[cursive summit]

There was rumours of one but apparently Meta patched that instantly

[crisp granite]

a headset I can only use, that I paid for
when in Facebook's good graces?
fuck that

[astral haven]

You can downgrade software

It's a hardware exploit

[cursive summit]

Tell me more

[empty wren]

Is this random, why would a new account brick hardware?

[astral haven]

It has a chance of bricking your hardware the old fashioned way

[astral haven]

If Facebook thinks it's a bot account it bricks the associated quest when it gets banned

[empty wren]

bruh

Thinks

I guess that explains the influx of people.havimg bricked devices

[astral haven]

I am not that interested in the quest so I dunno if the bricks are recoverable via jailbreak (which I would hope they could be)

[cursive summit]

Why have jailbreak if you can just use someone elses account

[ashen spindle]

also given what carmack did for the old quets I imagine when they are EoL they will become open and meta just wants current ones locked down at least

[empty wren]

The CV1 was so nice

[astral haven]

That sounds like something Facebook could easily ban them for

[empty wren]

At least at the time

[astral haven]

No it was not

[empty wren]

It had headphones

[astral haven]

It hurt to wear

[cursive summit]

Over a year in, hasn't happened yet

[ashen spindle]

the cv1 isnt related to the quest so how is that relevant

[astral haven]

Same company in theory

[empty wren]

Oh oops, nevermind

[ashen spindle]

yeah but carmack pushing for unlocking old quests doesnt relate to the cv1 at all

but hey, my CV1 right audio dies and deckard gets new leaks, now release it and its perfect timing

[astral haven]

Welllllll

Announcement now means release in a year and availability in 2...

[ashen spindle]

index was announced a month or two before release

so I doubt that

[astral haven]

Lol

No it was announced in 2018

[ashen spindle]

Announced on April 30, 2019, the headset was released on June 28 of the same year

[astral haven]

That's definetly not true

That may have been when the steam page went up, but it was mentioned on Twitter? In 2018

I know that for certain because the first teaser for alyx was exactly 1 year after we learned about the index, to the week, and that was Nov 18 2019

[ashen spindle]

I just remember they dropped it during a oculus event where people who streamed it ignored it and looked at the index lol

[astral haven]

Yea that was the official release

It was purchaseable between the official release and when the alyx store page launched
After that it has been perpetually out of stock

[ashen spindle]

yup that part I remember

[astral haven]

Either way if they aren't in production now, they won't have it available for normal people to buy this year (people who don't reserve first minute)

[ashen spindle]

well I dont think there are as many people leaking or in the know about it compared to cpu/gpus

so maybe it is

[ashen spindle]

also

https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3218394291609115017

so july 18th would be a good time if they do announce something

[astral haven]

The index was leaked in the hdv phase the most out of any hardware I am aware of in recent memory
Not like old Intel where samples were sold at retail a year ahead of launch, but there were pictures of the index very early in 2018 (we didn't know what it was then)

[cursive summit]

I remember those pictures

It was like a set of weird ass VR devices

[astral haven]

Yep

[cursive summit]

I don't recall if it was actually attributed to Valve though

People were speculating however

[astral haven]

It was

There were chips with valve specific labels on them

[cursive summit]

Kinda weird for an engineer or whomever to just take a photo of the assembly line or such

[astral haven]

There is a valve customized chip in the index, the

[astral haven]

Lol
Do you really think that is weird?

[cursive summit]

I mean, I for sure as hell wouldn't do that

Easy way to get fired

[astral haven]

Imagine you could sell the picture for a thousand bucks
An entire months salary (or two or 3 outside of the us)

[cursive summit]

If I was a chinese engineer, then weighing in the risks, maybe

Those poor folks don't get paid

If I was a Valve employee I would not even have the thought

[astral haven]

What if you were Indonesian
Or vietnamese

It wasn't a valve employee obviously

[cursive summit]

They all have similar issues with salaries

Yeah maybe I'd try to tip TMZ or such for some little cash

Although that's a shitty celebrity publication so yeah

[shadow minnow]

Cities skylines uses ton of ram

[reef patrol]

Yes and no. It preallocates RAM pretty aggressively. Whether you actually need it depends on your assets mods.

[vast moss]

https://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_hdpvrpro60.html Hey all, thoughts on the Hauppauge HD PVR Pro 60 as a capture card?
I have an old Elgato Game Capture HD60, but it doesn't work on Linux whereas that's what I use daily now. I saw that the Hauppauge uses UVC, which I think works on Linux, and they even have instructions for setup with OBS, which is superb.
I like the passthrough it offers, too, as I might play rhythm games (and some action-heavy games while I'm at it), so low-latency monitoring/passthrough is important. I see it also has standalone recording, which isn't integral but probably useful in some contexts. I don't (think I) have anything that can output above 1080p60 except for my desktop as of now, which is fine as I can just use OBS to record my desktop directly and a capture card for everything else.
If this turns out to suck, I can probably return it if I get it tested in time. I'm hopeful it'll work, but I suppose there's always the off-chance it won't. I just want to know if this card is a good deal for 1080p60 recording before I spend $100 plus shipping costs and some of my time on it.
Any recommendations for/against this card or another capture device are much appreciated. You might have to ping me though, as I don't check here often.

[cursive summit]

Get an 8$ chinese usb stick

@vast moss

https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U

This is why

Perf wise, it matches 100$ Elgatos

I actually bought one

And it works, and it's actually good

[vast moss]

Thanks for the input. Someone else recommended a stick like that too. I'm mostly concerned about the resolution and latency, but I suppose for so cheap it's a fair trade-off

[cursive summit]

If you watch the video

If you get the right one

These are some of the fastest sticks around

The latency is incredible

Far superior to elgatos

Almost as if elgato is shit

[vast moss]

I have an Elgato, and I can confirm the latency is pretty bad. But at least it has passthrough. That said, no Linux, which is pretty much a deal-breaker for me now.
Of course, low latency is good, but for some games, I might need minimal (perhaps even no) latency. I suppose that's where an HDMI splitter comes in, though.

[cursive summit]

Seaking of audio companies branching out

Few days ago this was announced

It's not only moondrop though

FiiO is also making a keyboard

[final flame]

The fiio one looks so tacky

[cursive summit]

Apparently it has an integrated DAC/AMP combo

[vast moss]

Interesting

[cursive summit]

That volume knob though

Lana would prolly love this thing

[fair gull]

does it have its own hardware encoder?

and passthrough?

[cursive summit]

Afaik no encoder

As for passthrough I don't really remember

My streaming days are long gone

But maybe the cheap stick market got better since then

I can't discuss the current ecosystem

[vast moss]

no passthrough; that's why I would need an HDMI splitter with it

apparently the specs are pretty crap across the board with these things, and while I don't record enough (nor have the following) to say I need good quality, it would be nice to have something to keep that works well. That's why I'm torn on whether to get either the card I was looking at that appears to actually be net good for $100+ (returns shouldn't be too hard) or a fourth of the price for something that might not be as good but still works (returns? lol).

[cursive summit]

https://www.amazon.com/BlueAVS-Capture-USB2-0-Camcorder-Extension/dp/B088HBRM7T

It seems the good one is still around

And it has a lot of derivatives

[cursive summit]

To be fair it actually has really good quality

I used it for Switch streaming

Was without a hitch

A bit of a fickle to set it up iirc

But that was due to me not knowing wtf I was doing

[vast moss]

I don't livestream because of home bandwidth limitations (tmw rural Midwestern DSL); I pre-record my videos. If I streamed, I'd be more accepting of the lower res/refresh because 1080p60 is hard to upload.

[cursive summit]

Well personally I needed it for the Switch, and I am glad I didn't spend 80€ for a second hand elgato

15$ stick is worth

[vast moss]

With that card plus a HDMI splitter, it comes out to $36 before tax ($38 after), which is undeniably a nice price. I'm just worried this won't suit me well later on.

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/improvise-adapt-overcome-bear-grylls-gif-10468556

[vast moss]

[fair gull]

is there hdcp hdmi splitters?

[shadow minnow]

When loading my map it prellocated all the ram it could

[fair gull]

not that i need one got an elgato capturecard for passthrough

just curious

[vast moss]

I don't know, but maybe.

[fair gull]

ik hdcp can be a pain in the bum

[vast moss]

All I have with HDCP (afaik) is my PS4, but I don't see much problem disabling that for recording

I haven't noticed any games not display or anything

There are HDCP-compatible splitters as far as I can see. Not sure if it's actually HDCP though :v

[fair gull]

i just cant be bothered to disabled it everywhere

[vast moss]

understandable

[fair gull]

sometimes i also restream movies to dicksword in private

[vast moss]

I see

[old marlin]

whenever I play any audio I get a ton of noise now

but just when some audio gets played, and depending on which for a short while after

[crimson wigeon]

Don't play noisy audio then

[cursive summit]

Sounds like a DAC issue

[old marlin]

happens on any audio

[old marlin]

unfortunatley

does not happen over USB

lol

welp

guess I am back to that now

didn't work before

[wheat plume]

WHY TF IS OUTLOOK PAYWALL LOCKED????

Got to have an office subscription to check for and send emails .-.

[reef patrol]

Outlook has always been a paid app. Windows has Windows MAIL for freebies.

[wheat plume]

.....oh boi

[formal vortex]

office it worth it tho, imo

[wheat plume]

Hopefully my job gives me a subscription
Cause they want everyone to use Outlook :/

[reef patrol]

Eh... maybe a decade ago it was. Now it's just an excuse to try and get you to get a subscription.

[formal vortex]

they ll prob have office 356 subs

excel alone would be worth the money

[wheat plume]

How is it worth it? :')

There is other office suites that are just as good

[halcyon moss]

ohgod

[reef patrol]

Google Sheets would like a word. To name just one.

[formal vortex]

excel > everything

i will die on this hill