🔌│tech

[young pecan]

He means making a dGPU.

[ashen spindle]

their chips not being on market is fault of manufacturing not the design teams

[reef tundra]

Are you doubting the chinese rn. I will report this to mao. L'mao.

3 famines for you\

Progress

[ashen spindle]

also this seems like a data center product not gaming, which is often easier in comparison

[young pecan]

Yee. That was the conclusion I got from the single slot passive nature.

Only way for that to be even remotely powerful is in a 2U or something.

Or flat in a 1U I guess.

Also...

[ashen spindle]

also about intel arc not launching in Q1

https://twitter.com/IntelSupport/status/1512264698842222604

Intel Support (@IntelSupport)

@GameUnionTV Apologies for the confusion, we had incorrect information. Samsung systems with Intel Arc graphics are available now in Korea and will scale to other regions. Additional OEMs in other regions will have systems in the coming weeks.

Twitter · Apr 8, 2022, 3:02 AM

good communications you got there mr intel

so Q1 launch means last day of q1 you can start buying some of them in korea

lmfao

[fallen laurel]

decided to search my name in discord to see if anyone posted anything from me before 😂

[old marlin]

lol

[fallen laurel]

that was a good one

[old marlin]

one of his best

[fallen laurel]

i got a few funny clips like that from various channels

https://streamable.com/m79u59 this one is great too (for a different reason 😂)

[old marlin]

almost as good as banning 7 people from his discord when they told him that black dyed ptfe is still ptfe

also a good one

the best the whale has ever done ngl

[fallen laurel]

aha

[old marlin]

besides supporting the blurbusters ldap alternative

which is honestly just better than an ldap from all I can tell

[fallen laurel]

i really need to look into that, have been doing reviews on and off on various channels for years and i still just do perceived tests or in-game demonstrations

Do you recall the name?

[old marlin]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BlurBusters/status/1511116783259955212?cxt=HHwWmMC5hamtyPgpAAAA

Blur Busters (@BlurBusters)

@xTheWhale_ @BijanJamshidi @nvidia We are privately crowdfunding towards a 100 unit beta manufacturing run this year. Inquire within.

Investors: [e-mail]

Twitter · Apr 4, 2022, 11:01 PM

not a thing quite yet

[fallen laurel]

thx thx

i've been playing with the nvidia reflex latency analyser on my monitor a bit, but it's only really useful to test fresh windows install vs bloated one, and then game a vs game b, just not reliable

will keep an eye on this

[old marlin]

I mean you can also do the same thing pzogel used to do (or still does)

which is using crocodile clips to activate 2 mice with one switch

but the blurbusters thing will also allow you to do more testing

for monitors etc

• total system latency and so on

[fallen laurel]

yeah i'll wait for that for sure

looks like they want to do a kickstarter eventually so seems like the best option

bored of mouse reviews honestly

[old marlin]

I mean you can contact them

maybe you can get in the beta run

as a reviewer

[mortal summit]

He has a discord?

[old marlin]

had at least

[reef tundra]

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/04/07/justice-department-announces-fbi-removed-russian-malware-sandworm/8361649355673/

[pale sigil]

Lol what channel is that

[old marlin]

The whale

He got a lot of shit opinions

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YleSuwK8vR4 @fickle ore

havent seen it yet so idk what it says

[crimson wigeon]

Thumbnail clearly says the ultimate for gaming

[misty saffron]

https://youtu.be/ip641WmY4pA

holy shit

A KNOB

[empty wren]

Anybody know a non ispunct method to check if a character array(essentially a short sentence at most inputted by the user) has an apostrophe at a given index in C?

[misty saffron]

if ((char)c[i] == 0x27)

?

[crimson wigeon]

Or '\''

[misty saffron]

thought a magic number is better than that atrocity

[ashen spindle]

if (c[i].ToString() == '''.ToString())

[reef tundra]

#define ISPUNCT(X) ((X) == (0x27))

if(ISPUNCT(string[index])) printf("yeet\n");

[misty saffron]

why the fuck do people say kinect was a flop because of wii?

usa is the only country on planet earth bro

[reef tundra]

Because they have shit for brains

[misty saffron]

who cares about other regions where wii barely existed

[wheat plume]

the only game with 100% reliable tracking on Kinect was Dance Central

[misty saffron]

yeah but who cares

if it has reliable tracking

you’re not playing surgeon simulator

[reef tundra]

Me pretending to have fun with the kinect

[wheat plume]

it was fun though

for a while

except dance central, that game is always fun on it

[reef tundra]

Fun in the same way as falling of a flight of stairs

[wheat plume]

oof nah xd

[misty saffron]

i loved my kinect

[wheat plume]

same, im glad I had it

[reef tundra]

Mine could not stop ripping my arms off

[wheat plume]

but I am somewhat indifferent to it in terms of games

but I love seeing the projets people make using it

for real world stuff

[reef tundra]

Dab to drone strike some innocent civillians

[pale sigil]

Kinect was fun

It's also fun to use in vr

[old marlin]

What region are you talking about

Where the xbox 360 was a success

But the wii wasn't

[wheat plume]

I loved the Wii and 360 equally

Both damn nostalgic for me <3 <3

[misty saffron]

russia, for example

literally nobody had a wii

everyone had a 360

[pale sigil]

I had one

[old marlin]

Weird

Russians still on that dendy thing?

[misty saffron]

no

360 was basically the first current gen console for russians

[reef patrol]

Condolences.

[misty saffron]

ps2 was a thing but barely, honestly

[reef patrol]

Y'all should have had the OG 😛

[misty saffron]

so anything older than that is rare

[pale sigil]

Russia without conflict is also rare tbf

[old marlin]

hey, dendy sold over a million units from 92 to 94

apparently nintendo managed to get rights to sell the NES in russia in 94

[empty wren]

well thanks to everyone advised me on that, i just went with this ``//determine if astrophe is present
int ascii = mani[i];
if(ascii == 39){
nmani[i] = mani[i];
punc++;
continue;

    }``

[ashen spindle]

not sure why you create an int first for it though, just put mani[i] into the if statement

[empty wren]

So I converted to ASCII essentially

39 is an apostrophe

[ashen spindle]

if(mani[i]== 39)
why not just this

[empty wren]

Would that actually work, imma check

[formal vortex]

man[] is initialized before, as it holds your chars, so why wouldnt it work?

[empty wren]

Hmm interesting, i did not know I could compare the letter to a number like that

I thought I had to convert it first to a number

[ashen spindle]

int ascii = mani[i];
that line is not doing a conversion

there is no cast in that line

[formal vortex]

i was about to say, you are not converting

[crimson wigeon]

Well you could say it is since mani is likely a char array

[ashen spindle]

in that case I'd probably say it can be implicit in which case it obviously works anywhere so also in an if statement

[crimson wigeon]

Indeed

[ashen spindle]

but isn't a char in C just a number anyway?

[halcyon moss]

0x39 is "unreadable"

[crimson wigeon]

Everything's just numbers in the end

[halcyon moss]

true, but you're not looking for a number, you're looking for a '

[ashen spindle]

all I know is I wont voluntarily touch string handling outside of c#

[crimson wigeon]

Good choice

[halcyon moss]

there are no strings in c! hah

[ashen spindle]

so nothing for me to touch

[halcyon moss]

eyyyyy

[ashen spindle]

it's just so much nicer to have interpolation for readable code that is not even lower performance in a build, no 0-terminating to think of etc.

[halcyon moss]

lets do utf too

[ashen spindle]

takes me a line or maybe two at most, so sure, I wont care

meanwhile glancing over to the c++ servercode I had to look at today....

yeah fuck that lmfao

[halcyon moss]

utf in JS is also fun

dealing with emoji's? well the normal charAt stuff etc doesnt work!

[ashen spindle]

since I dont know what it is or used for just a guess: water protection to prevent short circuits?

[misty saffron]

or it’s both

nah i’m convinced it’s a dickhead attempt at preventing reverse engineering

the test points are all exposed

[wheat plume]

dang GG Firefox

considering I only used windows like 3 days this week

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume I mean...

[wheat plume]

2.9gb wow

[neat oriole]

not too familiar with the new denons, only heard that they're not great. Something like a fostex trx00 would be great if you can find one

[pale sigil]

Damn son

[shadow minnow]

[pale sigil]

Hd650s

[shadow minnow]

Not even UHD650s

🤢

[neat oriole]

yeah same thing just removable cables

convenient tho

those things slap

[misty saffron]

more like it’s that you can replace the cable if it gets broken

every human on planet earth that has access to cables

[pale sigil]

I prefer removable

Mainly because of sizes

I can use a cable that’s just the right size

[young pecan]

Simple wear or random shit like pets. Probably...

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-epyc-7004-genoa-die-has-been-pictured-features-twelve-zen4-chiplets

Shitlets yay

[shadow minnow]

When are we gonna get Venice though?

Giovanni Giustiniani would be proud nontheless

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[shadow minnow]

Learn history

[wheat plume]

Finally

Gnome 42 on Arch

[thick elk]

Thought you were using manjaro

[wheat plume]

no

Ive not used Manjaro in like 2 years

[thick elk]

ok

[wheat plume]

(im using ArcoLinuxB)

[thick elk]

Okay I guess it was just me dumping arch derivatives on the same pile.

[wheat plume]

Arco is basically pure Arch + some custom aliases and scripts + wallpaper + themes + icons + some custom repos that are enabled by default but you dont need to use them if you dont want to

Oh right
The Gnome Tweak took no longer lets you change theme for GTK4 apps

This makes sense but I know its going to piss people off

[misty saffron]

https://youtu.be/EIjjpOJ0ghg

WHY DO YOU HAVE A NOTCH

[crimson wigeon]

Notches are cool

[ashen spindle]

@notch

[misty saffron]

it’s almost like samsung doesn’t realize to compete with ipad they need good software

[crimson wigeon]

If there is no notch then it's a crappy poor peasant's device

[empty wren]

https://c.tenor.com/FQX6kBlsGrQAAAAM/notch-guy-apple-guy.gif

[wheat plume]

🤔 Still have the old screenshot UI

[misty saffron]

also what is it with samsung’s fetish with making user’s hands obstruct the screen?

[ashen spindle]

im really wondering if without ipads we would have better android tablets or if the market would just not exist

[wheat plume]

The box is so thin....

my gosh

[ashen spindle]

I mean wireless earbuds are similar enough to wireless headphones that they would be made by someone anyway

[misty saffron]

years later though

most likely

[ashen spindle]

maybe

[wheat plume]

The wireless buds I have make me sad
They look great
The case works great
The case is slender and nicely shaped to both hold and fit into pockets
battery life is great
They charge with USB C

But they sound real bad ;-;

[misty saffron]

it’s funny though

[wheat plume]

Its the only downside

[misty saffron]

at first airpods looked incredibly silly

now good luck finding somebody with wired earphones

[wheat plume]

I use wired :D

Got a few strange looks last time I used them in public

[misty saffron]

i suspect your sound quality complaint is the culprit

[wheat plume]

huh?

the wired sound great

not the wireless

[misty saffron]

bruh

[wheat plume]

?

[empty wren]

I found a airpod during vacation seems about right

[wheat plume]

I almost lost my wired buds

cause I dont have a carry case, I just yeet them into my pocket

That is one thing I prefer about wireless ones, they come with a dang case

and its easy to take them in and out. no wires to stuff in

This tablet is solid af...

damn GG Samsung

There is one guy spamming the same comment on this video

.-.

[cursive summit]

There is literally 0 need for a tablet if you have a phone

Like name a reason why you need a tablet

[pale sigil]

Movies, TV shows, Discord, YouTube, Word, Browsing, yanno big screen.

I use my IPad Pro 7+ hours a day

[cursive summit]

Literally all of those can be done with smartphones, or better off, ultrabook 2-in-1s

[pale sigil]

Aye but smart phones are smol

[reef tundra]

Your pp is smol

[cursive summit]

Fold 3

[pale sigil]

still smol

Also Windows tabs suck ass

Chromebooks meh

[cursive summit]

I don't see the market for tablets

And I had a few back in the day

[pale sigil]

Well

You dont :p

But the very successful market does xD

[cursive summit]

So far the only reason I heard is "big screen"

[pale sigil]

Duh

[reef tundra]

Tablets are oversized phones - simtray

[pale sigil]

Doing shit on a phone is shit

[cursive summit]

It's convenient

Carrying a laptop sized tablet though, is not

[pale sigil]

I used to do all my work on my IPad at uni etc for example

Laptop size?

xD

[ashen spindle]

thats why people use phones to carry around and tablets for not carrying around often

[cursive summit]

Like what, 12" isn't that smaller than 14" laptop

[pale sigil]

12" isnt the most common size afaik

with tablets

I cant belive of all people im saying this

But just because its not relivant to you does not mean its irrelevant all together xD

And its pretty much a pointless argument person to person

[cursive summit]

I still don't see the point of going for an android-bound tablet, when for similar price you can get a windows based convertible with far more features available

[pale sigil]

Because Windows tabs are awful

:p

[reef tundra]

I don't the point of you refusing to give me all of your money

[cursive summit]

Don't be salty mate

[reef tundra]

Don't be toxic mate

[cursive summit]

Really doesn't beat the fact you get far more features with Win over Android

[reef tundra]

[cursive summit]

Also last I saw, convertibles do actually come in bigger sizes than tablets so, win-win?

[pale sigil]

Both android and win tabls are shit

[ashen spindle]

"I dont see a market because slowly things are able to almost do the same thing" is bit of a weird argument

also price

[wheat plume]

Gnome Web is getting really good

The new build can actually handle youtube now

Thats a huge step up :D <3

0 dropped frames at 1080p 60

and no visual glitches in the website either

Im using the testing build though, maybe thats why its a lot better, its fully updated

[crisp granite]

having tried that

it's OK
but I hate touchscreens and would rather a boring ol laptop instead of tablet with keyboard

even if it is less portable, because tablets definitely win that game
can fit it in my satchel with plenty of space to spare

[crimson wigeon]

netbook x d

[cursive summit]

I literally carried a gaming laptop to uni

Came useful during certain lectures and boredom

[crisp granite]

eh...my previous experience with one went horribly

...I think I still have it...with Dragon Naturally Speaking still installed

it was some HP thingie, dirt cheap when my parents bought it over a decade ago
built like shit
but it worked

till I dropped it and the latches that hold the battery in broke

[thick elk]

As for tablets, I do own a 11 inch tablet pc, and it is definitely useful watching movies, as a more compact laptop. Just wish the market of these was a little bigger, between the cheap chinese stuff and bad compatibility / terrible io of surface line there is not much.

At least it was cheap.

[crisp granite]

the apple stuff paired with the magic keyboard/trackpad combos work well, if absurdly expensive and on par with macbook air pricing

[pale sigil]

Aye, i used to use my 60% bluetooth keeb that was very lightweight.

Or just take the ipad

was a lot better than a Laptop, or well a Laptop that i didnt want to spend loads on for decent perf

[crisp granite]

I lugged around my K3 to lectures with it...but I kept forgetting to turn it off and charge it

so I ended up with a dead keyboard a lot of the time

x_x

[pale sigil]

xD

I got a laptop for uni but i lasted a few months before i stopped using it

I cba chugging around a Laptop... i could get a light weight but uinless i spent loads it would run shit

[thick elk]

If I were in uni I would probably use something like this: https://www.chuwi.com/product/items/Chuwi-Ubook.html

[crisp granite]

ended up going back to the smart folio keyboard
it was so overpriced, so shit, but it'll work as long as it's connected to the iPad

[thick elk]

Which I already use

slow yes, but good enough to take notes and not run a mobile operating system

[crisp granite]

was 240 CAD for the worst feeling keyboard I've ever felt on a mobile product
should have just bought the 400 CAD magic keyboard trackpad when I had the chance

[thick elk]

Back in the one year I was at uni I just used a small laptop, different times though. the amd E350 really was not fast at all.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X121e-NWS5QGE-Subnotebook.61149.0.html

[shadow minnow]

Not knowing even Giovanni is just sad ngl

[wheat plume]

This sentence is funny

[reef patrol]

Fallback INNIT

https://c.tenor.com/2ioIQ83nYegAAAAM/nice-one-bruvva-nice-one-brother.gif

[crimson wigeon]

INNITINITINNIIT

[wheat plume]

;-;

oh....

file locations are different cause this is Flatpak version LOL im stupid .-.

[neat oriole]

They could have bad strain relief and over time the connection breaks. If the cable isn’t detachable you’re going to have to get inside and re-solder a cable

I mean if you’re handy with a dremel and a soldering iron you can mod it yourself

Yeah that’s fine

Hopefully it’s not a scam

[astral haven]

the only headphones that sound like sennheisers are sennheisers
the hd 560s sound very very good imo
noticeably better extension than my 6xx but you just dont get much low end on sennies

[shadow minnow]

Forgot how loud this pc can get

[cursive summit]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidias-rtx-4090-to-reportedly-cost-1899-400-more-than-the-3090-2x-faster/

[ashen spindle]

Any gpu prices that far ahead of launch are at best an estimated guess you should know that

Price isn’t set till last minute

[ashen spindle]

we dont even fully know how they name things this generation so that might as well be the price for the xx80 class

but half a year ahead without knowing pricing of competition it's like I said, nothing more than some estimated guess, or maybe if it's a leak some internal calculation that is likely to still change anyway

[ashen spindle]

nah the 90ti exists only as a testbed for PCB design and vrm components for the next gen

vram will for the most part be down to how aggressive amd goes wiht it I would guess

the 7900xt or w/e has the option to have a 32gb model

nah they still sell 3090 if just for the lower bins they get

[young pecan]

Reckon next gen will be using vapor chambers for cooling?

[ashen spindle]

no idea

[young pecan]

I know EVGA has been doing that to wonderful performance on the 90Tis.

Like 20% better than the 90. Impressive.

I mean for the die, not the VRAM.

[ashen spindle]

I can show you what an estimate looks like for where the power goes to

but how they cool it idfk

maybe with human sweat and tears that get produced when you look at the prices of it

not with first gen for sure

[chrome estuary]

well right fuck

you can buy gpus on amazon again

[pale sigil]

i mean... sure

i wish i didn't cancel my 600 pre order for this

back during launch

[ashen spindle]

600 for an 80ti??

[pale sigil]

sorry, 3080

didn't notice ti

[cursive summit]

So, why are 3070Tis cheaper than 3070s?

Cause it launched later?

So, less demand therefore in stock?

[pale sigil]

Damn

Just had a windows update take over 10 minutes to install (insider)

[latent mural]

I NEED HELP, when I try to download or open wooting it says "Wooting Double Movement Error, this is likely caused by "nefarious Virtual Gamepad Emulation Bus" not being correctly instaled. WHAT DO I DO 😭

[ashen spindle]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[latent mural]

ok i put that in fortnite-double-movement chat

[shadow minnow]

Why is windows 11 default wallpaper compressed. Just looked at it from really close and it looks so strange and the compression is pretty bad too. Can’t see artifacts around edges now

[reef patrol]

They ALL are surely? No one uses BMP.

[shadow minnow]

Idk but just with the default one compression being actually visible is kinda strange

[thick elk]

My guess it's ancient code meant to safe space using overly agressive compression.

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/u0ik15/easy_steamdeck_140tb_storage_upgrade_to_fit_your/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

@wheat plume

[wheat plume]

"on the go" xd

[final flame]

all windows wallpapers are compressed by default

it's a registry toggle to set how much compression it is

[wheat plume]

Considering the ISO is 5.2GB... Why tf it compressed??

[final flame]

there's a setting in winaero tweaker specifically for this

it does it to all wallpapers

default I think is 75

[ashen spindle]

complains windows is too big
complains windows doing tweaks to reduce file sizes
pick one xD

[final flame]

I can honestly care less if it's only slightly bigger even if all the wallpapers were raw images it still would be like 1gb larger at max

[ashen spindle]

oh sure, I'm just confused why a big ISO size would mean they aren't allowed to have something to save filesize elsewhere xD

[astral haven]

Also the iso is pretty small for all the random stuff that is in there

[ashen spindle]

shh, clearly anything above a couple kb for an OS is bloat

[young pecan]

Or just DL a raw image as an opt in windows update. :p

[timid needle]

Can anyone tell me I currently own the Huntsman Elite and I‘m thinking about getting the Wooting Two HE, But I‘m quite unsure if it‘s worth it. I play lol semi professional and I don‘t know about it because input delay on huntsman says 0,2ms and two he says <1ms and yes I know the features on the wooting are much More and better But I pay ~230€ and still Input delay Seems to be worse

[young pecan]

The HE switches are fast, and they have rapid trigger which theoretically is 0.1ms all the time. The real benefit for comp is that rapid trigger doesn't have any effective character drift since you're never waiting for the switch to actuate which means you are going to be the bottleneck instead of the keyboard.

Now how that actually effects your gameplay idk, but the HE series is the single best keyboard on the planet rn for gaming in regards to latency and delay, iirc.

[sudden glacier]

Huntsman keyboards have quite a large debounce, so they are slower in every way

as explained in the post above, HE switches are as good as of a switch as you can get, and Wooting makes very clever use of it with Rapid Trigger

if you use cast-on-release for example, your cast will be a lot faster as the on-release part is near instant, with rapid trigger deactivating the key when you start to lift the key up

other than that, HE switches have full range adjustable actuation, from 0.1mm to 4.0mm
Huntsman will need to travel 1.5mm before actuating, and have a fairly large debounce time where no other key can be pressed

[young pecan]

^ The biggest problem with using a hall effect switch in comp is getting used to how sensitive rapid trigger can get. Takes some practice but it's by far the fastest switch available if you can actually use the thing.

Though I have seen some real interesting comp plays fluttering the switch using DKS and RT.

Got killed by a guy in D2 using one key for sniping. Guy was clearly alarmingly chad.

[wheat plume]

Upgrading to Gnome 42 made the audio quality better...

dafuq? Ill happily take it though <3 sounds nice

[wheat plume]

🤔
It found the right album art and the right artist photo but it cant find the artist information

It got so dang close damn it

[halcyon moss]

are you using wired headphones? or wireless?

[old marlin]

in any case

if it got better

it was just fucked before

[pale sigil]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if lana downloaded fake flac files

[young pecan]

BuT i rENamEd tHe FilE ExtEnSioN.

[pale sigil]

XD

[young pecan]

Bet if you ran it through spectral you'd see something horrific like this.

It's a FLAC, trust me.

[ashen spindle]

hey look,. the 90ti FE is not sold out instantly

[misty saffron]

the real antiscalper strategy

just make the price something absurd

[ashen spindle]

yup, it's still in stock lmfao

[misty saffron]

might as well set it to 10k and say "hey look we have gpus in stock!!!"

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ with how dumb the pricing for 80ti/90 was, they couldn't really make it cheaper

[misty saffron]

not 700 above msrp though

[ashen spindle]

huh? that is MSRP

[misty saffron]

and that was when miners had a throbbing cock

wait what

i thought 1.5k is msrp for 3090ti?

[ashen spindle]

the 3090 is 1500 msrp, the 3090 ti is 2 grand USD

[misty saffron]

oh god

[ashen spindle]

1200/1500/2000 for 3080ti/3090/3090ti

[misty saffron]

yeah nvidia is the retarded one then

cool

used ford fiesta or 3090ti? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[young pecan]

Given how Ford owners tend to be I'd probably still take the GPU.

[old marlin]

can't go and buy groceries with a 3090ti

[young pecan]

Good thing Australia has delivery.

[old marlin]

ig

sadly I live in the third world country called germany

where we can't even get decent internet

[misty saffron]

grocery delivery is objectively better than going to the store

because they can fuck up your order and you’ll still win

[old marlin]

I'd prefer them to not fuck up my order

if I go myself I know who to blame

and will see actual improvment

provided that I care enough about it

[young pecan]

I get a notification 8 hours prior to delivery if they're out of stock on anything and a same day refund.

Or I can opt into the item getting replaced by the nearest available thing.

It's pretty fuckin' good, can't really lose.

[misty saffron]

eight hours??

here it takes 30 minutes from order to the bag being on your doorstep

[young pecan]

On average, yeah.

Stock system just alerts if they're out of anything and I usually get an email about 8 hours before.

Usually it's next day delivery, but there's no limit to how much you can order.

You select a time window and for me often it's within the hour of when I select.

[misty saffron]

i fucking hate youtube

higher than what?? fucking potato??

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

What is the display on

[misty saffron]

what

[ashen spindle]

did you feed it alcohol or meth

[misty saffron]

both

[empty wren]

Phone or monitor

[misty saffron]

phone

[cursive summit]

https://hothardware.com/news/zen-4-april-production-and-amd-patents-stacked-ai-accelerators

[crimson wigeon]

Ooh finally it's my turn to deck it up

[ashen spindle]

nice

now install macos on it

[crimson wigeon]

Will try

... maybe..

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OrYDyhztKg

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/E581GZ_dZbY

[shadow minnow]

Hmm GPU price for 3080 ti with included waterblock down to 1500€ while being in stock

So my question is

Do I get it now?

Or wait for next gen?

Also since kinda clueless if price may not go a bit more down though it seems unlikely

Hmm

[young pecan]

Wait for next gen lmfao. Lovelace has nuts specs to current gen.

So you could get a 3080Ti and it’s about 10%~ slower than a 3090, but a 4060/4070 is as fast as a 3090 anyway.

I don’t see why you’d upgrade to RTX 3000. I did only because I mine on the card as part of my business, I’d personally have saved for a 4090 and go insane overkill.

[shadow minnow]

Reason I would upgrade maybe I am using Intel UHD 750 atm

Just wondering if availability of next gen won’t suck again ngl

[young pecan]

Honestly? With cards cheap just buy something minimal and tough it out until then.

Like a 1080Ti or smth.

[wanton grail]

With the prices dropping not a bad thing to suggest now

[young pecan]

Yee

If I were in the position he’s in I’d buy a 1060 6GB or a GTX 1080Ti and call it a day.

[wanton grail]

Yer gonna do jack with that

[young pecan]

1060 isn’t great, but if you want minimal price until Lovelace then it’s doable.

As for 1080Ti? Still an utter unit of a card. I used one up ‘till 3 weeks ago.

Run your shit correctly and it’ll do 100FPS high/ultra 1440p.

And for like 400 USD that’s pretty good.

And remember that Pascal is very, very overclock friendly too.

[shadow minnow]

Not planning to just throw away 500 usd tbh

[young pecan]

Yep.

You could always mine on it or just sell when next gen happens.

Or you can use marketplace to find a cheap one.

[shadow minnow]

I am not going to mine with a GPU

Hmm conflicting opinions of different people recommending different stuff and I am just as unsure as well

[young pecan]

shrugs Your loss.

Fair enough you don’t want to start a mining farm, but figure if you own a GPU for gaming you may as well make some cash on the side for upgrades.

[astral haven]

Like you make aloooot of money

Amount of profit depends on how recent the GPU is
But anything worth buying is profitable

[young pecan]

Yeee. And I mean just the fact that you can upgrade every year without paying for it… that alone is extremely good.

[astral haven]

Ye
Well if you sell the old one

[young pecan]

Even if you don’t sell the old one you can upgrade.

[astral haven]

Eh
Not if you go flagship

[young pecan]

My 1080Ti made about $1400 in a year, that more than pays for itself. If I sold it I’d have been able to push for a 3080Ti.

Without it I’d have been able to go top end Ti in an unfucked market.

Still a super good idea. Free GPU upgrade every year.

[shadow minnow]

As soon as they make just as profitable mining software that does sth useful comparable to folding at home may consider it

[cursive summit]

Ngl kinda want to build a PC, eyeing 3070s

But sometimes 1080s for 400$ crop up online, and 1080Tis for 500

Actually there's plenty of em

Not sure if it's better going for 3070 with 200$ mark up, or just go last last gen

[old marlin]

apparently people realized how good of a deal the 1080 ti is

cause prices did not fall that much

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

Also FSR 2.0 might work on 1080Ti, so you'll be getting equivalent to DLSS feature for free

Ngl kinda tempting

[old marlin]

"equivalent" is a hard stretch

when it is not even rolled out yet

still

a pretty good card

[cursive summit]

Only problem I'm seeing here is

3070s a fuck ton faster

[old marlin]

yea

compares more to a 3060 ti

in rasterized rendering

[cursive summit]

But gets 11gb's of VRAM

Which holds its own weight

[old marlin]

is useless on it's own

it is unlikely that you are gonna need that much vram

with the amount of power it has

in games at least

[shadow minnow]

For me really considering getting 3080 to but idk if not to wait.
Just scared waiting may bring again no availability launch. Or even power connector being different would suck

[young pecan]

Mining software is useful.

Now if you’re talking about solving artistic or science problems, then no.

You’ll be wanting to watch Flux for PoUW.

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle

Buy a 3080ti now or hope to get a next gen?

[ashen spindle]

why would you want a 380ti

costs like double than a 3080 and has like 5% more fps

[pale sigil]

Just go with it

[ashen spindle]

no that card was dumb to get even at msrp

[pale sigil]

OK a 3080

Then

[ashen spindle]

depends what is the current model and whats the target

1440 or 4k

[pale sigil]

4k

[ashen spindle]

next gen absolutely

[pale sigil]

But it's gonna be impossible getting one

[ashen spindle]

even scalped you'll have a better deal than a 80 ti lmfao

[pale sigil]

OK bexin wins

[shadow minnow]

For me 3080 ti is 1500€, 3080 1300€.
In stock with waterblock included that is.

[pale sigil]

I just wanna play fortnite with bexin where he's not play at 30fps

[shadow minnow]

Idk about next gen availability tbh

If I can only get a next gen GPU in a year

[ashen spindle]

ok but your waterblock requirement is just dumb, just get something and not the one for 1300

[shadow minnow]

More worth it to buy now

[shadow minnow]

Didn’t see anything cheaper enough that I could buy a waterblock for that price, so would still cost me just as much

[ashen spindle]

founders for 700+ any waterblock of your choice

[shadow minnow]

Just next gen availability is the biggest question for me

[shadow minnow]

No way to get that here

Also no 2 HDMI 2.1s

[ashen spindle]

then get any other air cooled card for less and a block of your choice

[pale sigil]

Rtx 3080 1000 euros here atm

They are slowly dropping

[ashen spindle]

point is for 4k you'll absolutely regret not getting next gen and overpaying for a 80ti now lmfao

[shadow minnow]

If launch is good worth it to wait, if it’s more like year waiting not worth it.
More about if to get GPU now than which one.

[pale sigil]

I'll remove my opinion

To much weight

[shadow minnow]

Well compared to iGPU
Also if it has new power connector really sucks.
But more just idk about the next gen availability. How do you think is it gonna be?

[ashen spindle]

better than this gens launch but no clue by how much

I mean I would've just gotten an old dgpu for now to have something over the igpu

[pale sigil]

why do I feel like I'm gonna be stupid and end up trying to get one

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/steam-deck-tested-with-radeon-rx-6900xt-as-external-gpu-is-10x-faster-in-3dmark-time-spy

here just do that

[pale sigil]

Wair

Wait

Wait

Wait

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-woah-hold-up-wait-gif-5693923

[cursive summit]

Wait

[pale sigil]

You can use eGPU capabilities

[cursive summit]

eGPU on AMD hardware?

[ashen spindle]

?

[cursive summit]

Like, using the PCIe port?

[ashen spindle]

open the article and look at it

[cursive summit]

Thought so

Cool, but impractical

[pale sigil]

Oh fuck that

Still a cool experiment tho

[cursive summit]

I have seen Thunderbolt ports on AMD motherboards

But I guess adding that to Deck is too expensive

[old marlin]

also absolutely useless

[cursive summit]

Eh?

Not at all

[old marlin]

why would you need it

[cursive summit]

Thunderbolts, afaik, still the fastest connection around

Not including USB4

[old marlin]

for what

[pale sigil]

I kinda want a nuc lately

[shadow minnow]

Wrong

[old marlin]

USB 4 = TB3

[pale sigil]

I want eGPU

[old marlin]

spec wise

[old marlin]

what do you need it for on a steam deck

[pale sigil]

That's all

[shadow minnow]

Well e GPUs

[pale sigil]

My biggest problem with the deck is that port

[ashen spindle]

I want my games to run in 4k on my 800p screen!

[pale sigil]

Or lack of

[shadow minnow]

Also nice for external displays

Unless steam deck doesn’t support them idk

[pale sigil]

^

[old marlin]

steam link does

you can do DP over USB

which it does

[pale sigil]

Fuck ye, deck and GPU on holiday

Sorted

[ashen spindle]

if you want to frankenstein a full pc with it get some actual cpu that isn't a power limited zen2 chip lollol

[old marlin]

basically

you can get faster stuff

for less money

with an actual mobo

where you can slot in whatever

wtf is the correct way to handle if some company throws you some webservers with default logins in your network

[ashen spindle]

reject it for security reasons till they change it lol

[old marlin]

yea only found it now

and it is for timekeeping

so can't take it down really

[ashen spindle]

uhh, tell them to change it or they will liable for any problems that could arise

[old marlin]

ig

basically 0 chance they will actually do something

know that already

[pale sigil]

What's better with a screen and controller built into a single device

[ashen spindle]

yeah but just have it in writing, idk how the actual laws work so I'd ask your boss or smth, so if someone gets in and breaks stuff for your or others on the server by root exploits you wont be held responsible

[pale sigil]

For the price point

[ashen spindle]

why would you need a screen if you want to put it to an external screen

[old marlin]

I mean

you can do that

but why would you need an external GPU

for a "do anything" kinda device the CPU is too slow anyways

[pale sigil]

Because I could just lift it up and take it anywhere

Play games on the go

But also use as a desktop when I'm home

[old marlin]

and a fast modern GPU would struggle with bandwidth on a TB port

[old marlin]

you can use it as a desktop

[ashen spindle]

but if you already take an external gpu, connectors, psu etc. you might as well take a decent nuc or similar as well and connect it to that instead of a deck

[old marlin]

but even with an external GPU it would be a somewhat slow gaming desktop

[pale sigil]

^

Well ye I guess

But like

[old marlin]

uhh

[pale sigil]

Still would be cool

[old marlin]

what you want

is a laptop

costs money though

[pale sigil]

As j said I don't want a laptop

[old marlin]

can't have everything

[old marlin]

then wait till such a device exists

[ashen spindle]

even with your 3080 you would notice being limited by a power starving zen2 cpu lol

[old marlin]

and a TB3 port

[pale sigil]

Nah the deck is cheap enough to have for now :p

Irs more of an experiment for me than anything

[old marlin]

it doesn't fulfil what you want tho

[pale sigil]

It does

Mostly

As I said it I want to game intense ill just stream or switch to my tower pc with a blank windows install just for games

Like most Linux users

[ashen spindle]

but uh, how does that now relate to using eGPU on it if we're back to talking about using your tower

[old marlin]

you get your display out

what would TB do for you

[pale sigil]

Would be cool is all to have eGPU

Like for games to run on my monitor at least

Even if its light one's

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/u19whs/i_opened_my_deck_to_see_which_fan_i_got_forgot_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[misty saffron]

light one is

[astral haven]

Tb gets you the ability to dock to a full kvm setup that uses a DP 1.4 monitor as well as full speed Ethernet and storage without the storage clobbering your mouse inputs
Amds usb controllers are garbage. They can't load balance for shit
With tb there's no load balancing problem

[young pecan]

Plus IOMMU grouping, don’t forget that.

That load balancing issue is relentless for servers that require passthrough.

[astral haven]

Not useful for servers which usually have actual pcie busses

Steam deck doesn't need iommu passthrough

[young pecan]

Not yet.

You know you wanna screw around with TrueNAS+Proxmox on a steam deck.

It will only be a disaster.

[astral haven]

I know for sure I don't lmao

[young pecan]

What could possibly go wrong.

cursed driver noises

[astral haven]

Screamy fan noises

[young pecan]

Lmao

[astral haven]

Gib tb
Ez all in one cable
I don't want to buy that cursed Dell USB c dock

[shadow minnow]

Buy apple thunderbolt cable great value

[astral haven]

They have a 3m cable right?
That's longer than any other powered tb cable afaik

Yup
And $160 for 3m powered tb is not bad at all

It's too bad that apple makes their cables of materials with the durability of paper maché

It's also too bad the corning cables don't have power delivery

[vagrant pagoda]

Get a pluggable dock

[astral haven]

Which one

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk which model, but I have the mini type c one

[astral haven]

Has display port 1.4?

[vagrant pagoda]

No hdmi

USB ones are mostly HDMI because of alt mode

Thunderbolt gives you do

Dp

[astral haven]

HDMI bleh

[vagrant pagoda]

It works great with my amd apu 2in1

Dp over type c is going to be software render

Or some active conveter

[astral haven]

Nope

HDMI over type c uses the converter chip

[vagrant pagoda]

You can't do data and dp alt mode

[astral haven]

Dp alt mode is native to USB c

[vagrant pagoda]

Nope

You can do HDMI over alt mode

[astral haven]

That is incorrect

[vagrant pagoda]

You are incorrect

[astral haven]

Dp alt mode only requires 1 channel
Passively it does 4 channels, but you can renegotiate using mst

[vagrant pagoda]

There is 1.4b HDMI alt mode

[astral haven]

That's not part of the USB spec

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes it is

[astral haven]

HDMI la can make up whatever garbage they want
But it is not part of the USB spec

[vagrant pagoda]

It is

Lmao

[astral haven]

[citation needed]

But yea noone uses HDMI alt mode cause you have to pay HDMI for your goddamn USB c port

And dp 1.2 to HDMI 1.4 adapters cost nothing

[vagrant pagoda]

Um

Every laptop I've used with a typec port that dose video, has done HDMI altmode

Intel and amd

[astral haven]

Again citation needed

How do you know your adapter is native HDMI?

[vagrant pagoda]

Because it only supports HDMI alt mode

[astral haven]

How do you know that?

[vagrant pagoda]

And the display shows up in Radeon manager

Because it says it on the device lol

[astral haven]

Have you tried it with a DP alt mode only device?

I think you have the two standards entirely backwards

[vagrant pagoda]

I dosent work with a steam deck, so yes

[astral haven]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/10642/hdmi-alt-mode-for-usb-typec-announced

[vagrant pagoda]

Steam Deck dock has an active splitter for the hdmi

[astral haven]

Steam deck is not HDMI over c
HDMI over c doesn't support USB
Dp alt mode over c supports HDMI signalling
But it requires negotiation with an active chip

[vagrant pagoda]

Read what I saud

It dosent work with the steam deck

[astral haven]

If your adapter does anything besides power and video
It's not HDMI alt mode

[vagrant pagoda]

Because the steam deck has an active conveter in the dock

[astral haven]

Does your adapter do USB and video?

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes

[astral haven]

Then it's not HDMI alt mode

This isn't complicated

[vagrant pagoda]

It is

Lol

You're just dense

[astral haven]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/10642/hdmi-alt-mode-for-usb-typec-announced
Here is a source saying HDMI alt mode doesn't support USB
Where's your source

"One thing to note though that compared to the existing DisplayPort alt mode, HDMI requires all 4 of its high speed data/clock lanes to operate, so it doesn’t appear that there won’t be an option to have a cable carry a mix of HDMI video and USB SuperSpeed data"

Remember
Display port natively supports HDMI signalling
That is not HDMI alt mode

HDMI alt mode is entirely separate from HDMI over displayport

As far as I can tell, the deck doesn't support HDMI over displayport

Yes that does mean that there are 5 different standards that carry video over USB c
Native dp alt mode
Dp alt mode carrying HDMI
Mdp alt mode (Nintendo only)
Thunderbolt
And finally HDMI alt mode

[astral haven]

Oh I forgot about virtuallink alt mode

[thick elk]

Where does MHL factor list?

[astral haven]

I forgot about mhl lmao

Iirc that was only for microusb

[thick elk]

Nope, still carried on onto usb-c

[astral haven]

Did that ever exist?

Wow that's disgusting

[thick elk]

In name of backwards compatibility they basically carried over the previous standard when they introduced usb-c

[astral haven]

Ah

I see one using a passive USB c to microusb adapter
That seems less cursed knowing that it is backwards compatible

Definetly not usbif ratified tho lmao

[misty saffron]

does anyone have any experience reversing android apps?

[shadow minnow]

Hmm slow

[astral haven]

Ew

[shadow minnow]

Some old hdd

[pale sigil]

YouTube is broken

[crisp granite]

yep...

[wheat plume]

SQL gets complex real fast....

[crisp granite]

rip

[wheat plume]

this is 3 tables

two joins

gosh damn it

Marques doesnt like the Steam Deck ;-;

HE HAS A WHITE SKIN ON IT, SO PRETTY :O I WANT

[crisp granite]

when did we ever care about his opinion?

[wheat plume]

Cause hes one of the largest tech people online

[crisp granite]

all his vids are...meh at best for the NEERDS like us
for the average consumer, plenty good

[wheat plume]

So a lot of people base their opinion on his

[crisp granite]

I want the in depth benchmarks, temperature charts, etc

not "these sound better" or "huge improvement over last gen"
HOW MUCH BETTER
QUANTIFY

this is where Gamer's Nexus comes in to play

[ashen spindle]

I am certain valve will be really sad some apple youtube doesnt think their first deck iteration is perfect when it's not perfect as they know themselves

[crisp granite]

also Optimum Tech for the SFF coverage <3

[ashen spindle]

since as you can see they have tons of decks they can't sell sitting around right now due to bad impressions on youtube /s

[wheat plume]

Yeah, proton support is at a very good stage, but its not fully there yet without more large game companies getting on board with proton

[crisp granite]

meh, I prefer the exodus strat of "we'll just fucking port it ourselves and natively support it"

means linux can't be a subpar experience if there are bugs tied to proton that the devs can't or won't iron out themselves

[wheat plume]

That is the optimum solution but for online multiplayer games, anticheat that works in Linux is a pain....yet they do it somehow for Android and Android has the same "risks" as Linux...Custom kernels and all that

[crisp granite]

proton is a stepping stone

:P

native support is the goal

same with mac tbh, parallels, crossover, porting kit and the now defunct bootcamp worked well
but native mac releases...mmm, yes, that is the goal

[ashen spindle]

ah yes, all the android Pc players, we see them all the time..

[wheat plume]

Epic Games claim custom kernels as the reason they wont support the Deck

But their game is on Android and that is easy to get custom kernels installed

[crisp granite]

Epic has a policy of "fuck consumers if it potentially means benefiting our competitors"
which I respect, but seriously, fuck them for that

[ashen spindle]

except in this case it's for competitive integrity and not a thing only epic do

but I cba going over that argument in its entirety again

[crisp granite]

tbh, if they worked with Valve to make the epic games store available on steamOS 3.0 and native steam deck support for their in-house titles
they could make a killing

[ashen spindle]

for one its not guaranteed that valve would want to cooperate with them, also it's just for FN, they are still having unreal and all that run on linux if devs chose to

[crimson wigeon]

Only if the 30% was dropped down to 12% or less or something

[wheat plume]

yeah, but Epic are letting other people using EAC to support the Deck
They made it pretty easy to enable support in your game using it

But they then go on and say they dont trust it on proton

They dont trust the product they are letting other games use?

[ashen spindle]

no we also already had that discussion that that is not what they said

[crisp granite]

both sides would make a killing off of that kind of arrangement

I'd take a 70% cut and some dev work required than no money at all

[ashen spindle]

valve is not a company traded on the stock market, if they dont want to do something they wont even if it makes money

not saying that is their stance, but they could just not be wanting to do it

[crisp granite]

yep, I know

private company = no responsibility to shareholders, since most, if not all shareholders are within the board or former members of

[ashen spindle]

if there even is a board

[crisp granite]

also

uh

I know there's precedent for apple announcing hardware at WWDC, their software event

[ashen spindle]

maybe they will announce their XR project

[crisp granite]

I'm thinking new macbooks tbh

june is the ideal time to announce shit, to ship throughout the summer

in time for back-to-school shopping

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen spindle]

well valve announced the index during an oculus event so im just hoping for either meta or apple to finally say something so valve can do the same again

[crisp granite]

hm

wait

they could just slip in "this new version of macOS supports our new xyz chips"

also btw we're packing these into macbooks and they'll be available next month lmao

[ashen spindle]

dont think there will be more new chips this year

[crisp granite]

idk, M1 feels kinda...tired

at least in the entry level space

Pro, Max and Ultra are still pretty fresh and insane

[ashen spindle]

im fairly certain they would want the next gen to be on N3 and that node just isn't ready for them to announce something already

[crisp granite]

I could see them working on 5nm again, simply to have new chips tbh

same with intel and their 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ thing
new chips (higher clocks and heatsink melting potential), same node

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that is something out of necessity and the fact intel was the node maker too, apple dont make the node they just fund it, and its a one or 2 quarter delay for it maybe, not over a year

[crisp granite]

if they did, they'd miss the back to school shopping season, at least at my uni... is quite astoundingly lucrative
I haven't seen a single intel based macbook once M-Series chips launched, and a shitload of 14 and 16 quotation mark 2021 macbook pros shortly after launch

[ashen spindle]

well even apple wont be able to quickly make a new design when that wasn't planned for and redo a chip for n3 on n5

more like it's just the same m1 with maybe some changes like a different configuration for lower power(consumption)

[crisp granite]

3nm, 5nm, 110 apostrope quotation mark pizza hamburger, all just random ass measurements ¯_(ツ)_/¯

squint and they're all the same

/s

[ashen spindle]

yes point is one is an apple the other a pizza

you've seen how shit rocket lake was when intel did that backport and that was planned for a much longer time

[crisp granite]

wait

Quin

now I have a dumbass question

is it a huge issue to jump nodes?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[crisp granite]

ok

thanks

with this new knowledge, I shall rise to power, seize the powers of the German government, turn you all into my war machine, and take over Europe...maybe the rest of the world if I'm feeling saucy

/s

[cursive summit]

Well that wasn't very Adolf of you

[pale sigil]

man

I hate how GPUs look these days

so fucking much

[shadow minnow]

Their price tags ain’t pretty either

[wheat plume]

LOL

GPD Copium

[shadow minnow]

But last gen was way better ngl in terms of look. Especially waterforce wb card. Also z390 mobos

[ashen spindle]

well for the most part people care about function first form second

and with increasing power draw it gets harder to do special designs that do the same without costing more

the 30 series stock cooler is something else, but that only works due to a special pcb and isn't really cheap to make either

[wheat plume]

Ah yes

[shadow minnow]

Well sure but when it comes to AIB one of points of selling is look to some extend when comparing same models so they can’t really afford to go ugly

[wheat plume]

Steam Deck is closed system :')

[pale sigil]

But you can play pirated games

Using Proton

[shadow minnow]

And with a waterblock card especially the outside look of the block is just a design choice

[wheat plume]

YEP

[shadow minnow]

Even if shape isn’t as much

[wheat plume]

and pirated games on retroarch

[ashen spindle]

yeah but most people wont buy a better look for lets say 100usd more

[shadow minnow]

Well sure but that’s not how much it costs AIB

[pale sigil]

You can literally run almost all things via proton

Hell you can run Sharex via proton lol

[shadow minnow]

And when they are same price but one looks better

There are people who will just decide based on that

[ashen spindle]

AiBs make almost no money on sales, they have low single digit margins, having expensive coolers are quite risky to do

[shadow minnow]

Especially if features are similar too

[ashen spindle]

and keep in mind the DiY market is tiny compared to SI

[shadow minnow]

Well sure but still good looking ≠ expensive

[pale sigil]

where is this

[wheat plume]

GPD posts on Chinese twitter

translated by a reddit user

[ashen spindle]

sure better looks dont have to cost more, but in most cases it's still a risk that might not even have a big return even if it goes well

[ashen spindle]

hence why some companies that either need somethign will try it or some that have more money might do some models that are special

but with their low margins it just wont happen that every second AiB will do a Yeston cat gpu

[wheat plume]

Yes

and they also claim Deck runs Debian and is closed system,

[ashen spindle]

it's the chinese market, acting like this is normal there so it doesn't really mean anything

[wheat plume]

Is the custom Steam UI closed source???

Cause the OS itself is not

but its Arch

hmmm

right

[ashen spindle]

you know you could also just do the old google

[pale sigil]

sadly valve confirmed dev mode does not mean write perms

[wheat plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/som87v/gpd_steam_deck_is_worse_than_win_3_it_is_a_closed/

here is the full post with all their comments

LOL

Come buy our products so you can pirate games !! YAY PIRACY

But yeah, I agree, Epic will certainly make their own handheld soon

[ashen spindle]

why would they

[wheat plume]

Make a handheld device that can play only games they sell on their launcher

EZ money... also, it runs windows which is already an advantage over Deck since Epic do not want to support Deck with their games

[ashen spindle]

that argument makes no sense

you think they'd make some apple grade chips to prevent any store that is not epic on it?

when they literally went to court against google and apple and are pushing changes through that are exactly preventing stuff like that

[wheat plume]

No
I think gpd are correct on that one
The handheld will get games earlier than everything else
But you can still install other shit on it like normal computers

[ashen spindle]

and how would they check that lmfao

[wheat plume]

Same way Steam knows it's on a Deck so it uses the custom UI

And shows deck status

[ashen spindle]

ah yes, that is totally safe and wouldn't be circumvented by 3 lines of code lmfao

also their biggest customer is fortnite players, the second one is companies that use unreal, why would they make it worse for their second most important customers by trying to force them into an ecosystem

even if you think it's just something they say to pretend they are the good guys, if they say the store is to reduce cost overheads for devs and all that, what would the benefit be for devs to work on/for an epic handheld, what benefit would they sell to them?

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Thats freaking wonderful

[misty saffron]

don’t lie you wouldn’t love to see that happen

the shitstorm would’ve been amazing to see

[ashen spindle]

Huh

Im confused by what part you mean

[halcyon moss]

GPD replied: (9 likes) Let me tell you, as long as there would be a pirated equivalent online, I will not pay the real game, people will not pay for the real game. I never say pirating is an advantage, but I do believe if you're able to find a pirated version then you definitely should play it, you're better than 99% of the people. Do you think telling the truth about the phenomenon is showing off?
jesus

[reef patrol]

[misty saffron]

epic integrating drm into their handheld

[ashen spindle]

oh it would be very ironic and funny yes, doesn't mean I believe it will happen

[old marlin]

only way I can see this happening is if they get hardware customized for whatever linux they would use

to have an actually good anticheat

on linux

or well

actually functional

[ashen spindle]

making a handheld just doesnt fit the business model they have

I know its hard to believe but epics model is actually not "shutting down linux and copying valve step by step"

[cursive summit]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-overclock-lock-already-bypassed-3d-v-cache-chip-spotted-running-at-4-8-ghz/

[wheat plume]

oh fucking hell

[formal vortex]

paragraphs, how do they work?

[thick elk]

Yea, not gonna read that, screenshot, light on dark, no paragraphs.

[ashen spindle]

also just not reading any youtube comments is a tip to improve sanity

[thick elk]

Some comments are quite enjoyable to read / argue against.

[young pecan]

:start
Guy hates manjaro
Why
He dev'd manjaro
Posted bugs in code
Got denied by devs
His code showed up in XFCE edition
Rageboner.exe
Manjaro bad
goto start

👌

[ashen spindle]

even if one were to find a comment to talk about, the interface is garbage to actually discuss anything

[wheat plume]

which interface?

[ashen spindle]

the comment section

[wheat plume]

Ahh

[pale sigil]

John Oliver is a legend

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/last-week-tonight-host-john-012400989.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABJKqhCG1i1kfoBwKZISX_BR9CSXDA4X0eeqgk_lJ6_Qo9OkUU36nfeDlhd2TLvpNoM_WgEJDrvjbiEB5xqn-4VK6vWu2QMVnXB-KHRgCQgQGe4EwReTgyM71GBK8icq87YGkohCynJqZej30T7L74whKc7uiWQxKuIemn8Vgik4

[reef patrol]

It was a fun episode.

Ohhh noooo - What if SOMEONE were to use these entirely legal methods to collect information on say... senators... oh dear

[timid needle]

Can somebody that owns a wooting two HE test something for me real quick

[misty saffron]

you asked the same thing 2 days ago

and yes, i have tested something

it definitely went well

[timid needle]

I just dont wanna ask the same person again tbh

I wanna know the key press time with 0.1mm and reset point

When you casually spam click and when you jitter spam the key

[misty saffron]

stopwatch

[timid needle]

there is a website

but I cant send it in chat i guess?

would be kinda sus ngl

https://blog.seethis.link/scan-rate-estimator/

Yeah the update time

[ashen spindle]

that is something people used when lekker editions first got delivered and yes with tahcyon people got to 1ms

[timid needle]

Ok so the main problem I have is that I'm not sure if its worth upgrading from a Razer Huntsman Elite
In fact I think all about the Wooting two he is better expect response time. The elite got optical switches so the website of them says 0.2ms - wooting two he says <1ms
Does something of the Wooting Two HE definetly outclasses this aspect and makes it still faster? And if yes can someone explain to me how without using too technical language

I know that it's just 0.8ms but its kinda the fact I pay 230€ for a new keyboard that still has something worse than my current

If you know what I mean

[ashen spindle]

the usb interface is polling at 1ms intervalls anyway so that for the most part negates anything below that anyway

it's most likely the internal scan rate if anything, which isn't the rate at which the pc gets updated

[timid needle]

https://www.razer.com/razer-optical-switch

[young pecan]

Yes, Wooting keyboards have rapid trigger and they are thus better. Nothing Razer has ever made can compete with them, it's not worth talking about.

The response time is irrelevant since you lose more in time by not having rapid trigger.
Even if it was relevant you aren't going to gain shit from the keyboard since your fingers are the limiting factor.

If you must have the best of the best, HE switches are it.

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6950xt-gaming-card-is-priced-almost-as-high-as-rtx-3090ti-in-first-retailer-listing

[misty saffron]

how exactly is hall effect slower

[young pecan]

Razer magic, obvs.

[timid needle]

Well I knew before that razer mostly is about marketing and making them seem the best of the best

[ashen spindle]

razers magnetic fields just travel slower because they come from another dimension clearly

[timid needle]

ok thanks for your answers - definitely getting the wooting two he then

[young pecan]

Honestly I'm sick of Razer. 90% of the time their marketing is bullshit and information a slog to sort through.

Just make a good product and market the good features as what they are, that's what gets the loyal customers.

Razer does do that, but it's usually buried behind 7 layers of bullshit and stupid graphics.

Very kek.

[misty saffron]

android devs need to eat a dick

WHY

does it have

to be such a convoluted process

to DEBUG

[ashen spindle]

oh are you discovering the joy that is android studio and its sdks?

[misty saffron]

i chose not to touch that

and it angers me there isn't an alternative

to dump a memory region of an app on windows

i open process hacker and right click save a memory region

[ashen spindle]

need to look at it in a better light, at least its just android studio and not xcode

[shadow minnow]

Xcode is nice

[misty saffron]

i would expect to be unable to do anything on ios

so the expectations are already low

[ashen spindle]

fair enough

[shadow minnow]

Though well yeah couldn’t do anything on iOS indeed but that iOS thing not Xcode thing. Overall imo Xcode is quite good

[misty saffron]

i wish i could just dump the vm's memory from windows

but for some fucking reason it's as far away from contiguous as possible

yep let's map every page to random locations in physmem

[ashen spindle]

the whole license thing for doing anything is so fucking annoying if you actually want to do anything and the support is just useless and takes forever and I dont care for your apple boner, that is just a straight up bad experience if you need to touch it

[shadow minnow]

Wait what license?

[misty saffron]

i have to mention there are so many good tools for this kinda shit on ios