🔌│tech

[misty saffron]

commands in text chats are great and all, but good luck teaching the main audience of facebook to use it

which is boomers

[empty wren]

This reminds me of kik

[formal vortex]

who still uses facebook?

[empty wren]

Me but rarely

Most of population is old people

[pale sigil]

Millions of people that's who

XD

[misty saffron]

millions of old people

[sudden glacier]

and deactivated accounts

[misty saffron]

pretty sure even old people have already moved to telegram though

in russia they have at least

[pale sigil]

Telegram is furry exclusive

[misty saffron]

say that out loud in russia

[wheat plume]

$30 for one pizza? Damn

[reef patrol]

Probably two pizzas with a drink?

Oh... oh no. It isn't. WTF 😄

[misty saffron]

what are you on about

[reef patrol]

Your facebook post 😛

[misty saffron]

oh

i was almost convinced it’s just another message by lana without context

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/i-mean-kassandra-lee-hmm-you-know-you-know-what-i-mean-gif-17588204

[misty saffron]

[empty wren]

Must be some Chicago or something

Or restaurant

[empty wren]

Tumblr

[reef patrol]

More like Yiffr

[empty wren]

I used to think Tumblr was owned by facebook

Because t sign looked like upside down Facebook sign

[crimson wigeon]

Hasn't Tumblr been incredibly irrelevant since pornerino was banned

[empty wren]

Probably

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/0Jk6ZLdLEwQ

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/trjkpg/huaying_fan_has_been_spotted_on_a_production_model/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[crimson wigeon]

can I just slap a Noctua in there

[ashen spindle]

just go with a 4000rpm server fan

[crimson wigeon]

Get one strong enough so the Deck flies away

[shadow minnow]

Make deck a delivery drone?

Hunt deck with an eagle?

[astral haven]

I would estimate these fans are in the at least 3000 range
For fans that small, fast is 10k rpm

[shadow minnow]

True

Even some laptop fans go above 4000

[old marlin]

Way past that prob

Would assume most go to like 5-10k

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1509289562102800394

Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley)

VALVE DECKARD HAS A NEW VERSION IN THE FILES

Deckard Mini-D is here! This is not a drill!!!!!=

Twitter · Mar 30, 2022, 10:00 PM

gaben give deckard now plz

[astral haven]

Gib

[halcyon moss]

what is a deckard again?

[ashen spindle]

valves next vr headset

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/nntEOIQlJH0

https://youtu.be/kPaHdYYViIA

[pale sigil]

Why can't the switch have fast charge

[reef patrol]

Cause Ninty didn't want to spend on it.

[empty wren]

Nintendo lawsuit

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewPUze1-1is

The Deck killer.

[crimson wigeon]

Waow

[cursive summit]

I actually believed for a second

And then

April 1 realization kicked in

That's why I hate this damn day

[crimson wigeon]

But that's tomorrow

[reef patrol]

Yeah... this isn't an april's fool.

[cursive summit]

Timezones, lads

It's already April in some other countries

[reef patrol]

Yes. NZXT are US based. They are BEHIND. You nonce

[cursive summit]

Natural to assume that they scheduled it for the first countries to get April 1st

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/schmoedown-adam-collins-korruption-the-coyote-you-wrote-something-gif-18553409

[ashen spindle]

mhm

so either april joke or they use arm and the product is a joke

[cursive summit]

Weirdly their release time coincides with 31st turning to April 1st in Australia

[crimson wigeon]

ARM is joke? But M1!!

[cursive summit]

And Aussieland is a major market I'm pretty sure

[reef patrol]

If this is an April's Fool, they are undoubtedly the worst company at doing so. Not only did they release it a day early...but they made a teaser for it the day BEFORE.

[cursive summit]

IT'S ALREADY APRIL 1 AT PLACES

[reef patrol]

And again... that's not how timezones work. NZXT are still a US company. Cali in fact 😛

See: Incompetent content creators

[cursive summit]

How do timezones work then

[reef patrol]

You don't release a fool ten timezones ahead of you.

Not even Razer are dumb enough to release something Singapore time

[cursive summit]

You do?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[cursive summit]

Mansen's been drinking a bit

Grumpy duck's drunky duck

[ashen spindle]

companies doing that is nothing new though, be it by mistake because of wrong setting or they do it on purpose, it's dumb but they do it

[reef patrol]

I don't know if you're trolling or genuinely dumb. And I don't care either. I'm out 😛

[cursive summit]

It is nothing new, cause it's been done before plenty of times

[reef patrol]

No. No it has not.

[cursive summit]

Then my eyes clearly haven't been working when april 1st videos release 4 in the afternoon on the 31st

Just timezone things

[reef patrol]

They must have - I recommend an eye doctor.

[pale sigil]

Why do they release April 1st stuff so early

Haha I just read the desc

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/7xouEd5cVE8

THE NOTIFICATION NOISE IS A FUCKIGN GUNSHOT

[umbral knot]

instead of getting a small phone just stretch yo booty hole, also prepares you for prison showers

[wheat plume]

OMFH NOOOOO STAHPPPP LOL

[umbral knot]

🙃

[wheat plume]

Hes got a melon....

and drill....

oh no

[umbral knot]

hmm not sure how he's going to fit that up there but he can try

[wheat plume]

oh

my bad

its a cantaloupe

[umbral knot]

I believe they are in the same family

so close enough

both large and uncomfortable to smuggle into a prison

[young pecan]

Man is thinking 6 dimensions above us all.

[ashen spindle]

man, having to explain kubernetes to someone who works with that, as someone who does NOT work with it is another layer of hell I tell you

[ashen spindle]

hm, would've been really nice to see some images from a distance for the font issue

still hard to judge how it looks when your eyes are not taped to the screen

[halcyon moss]

NO create outrage to get the views!

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Ig8HHo-g0RA

[pale sigil]

Razer April fools are the only good things that come from them

https://youtu.be/1cBSFFKXfr0

[wheat plume]

THE ENDING LOL

[pale sigil]

XD

[solar hinge]

It should've had this disclaimer:
Stretch before playing prison games

[wheat plume]

:')

oh no

[reef patrol]

I genuinely can't wait for this to arrive.

https://tenor.com/view/amiga-boing-bounce-ball-checkered-3d-gif-16856395

[wheat plume]

AMIGA!

[reef patrol]

[crimson wigeon]

Only Amiiigaaah makes it possiible

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/greymon55/status/1509766399803109381?t=PVEOvBOy56sFl57QtbzZDQ

Greymon55 (@greymon55)

7950XT 👀
15360SP
500W TBP
2.5GHz
32G 256bit GDDR6 21Gbps
512M 3D infinity cache

Likes

295

Twitter · Apr 1, 2022, 5:35 AM

[crimson wigeon]

Coulda fooled me

[ashen spindle]

the fun part is those could be real specs

[thick elk]

Well, I don;t think they would quadrouple the cache and double the ram while trippling the number of sp's. Still fun enough to post.

[ashen spindle]

dont forget it's a multi chip gpu

[thick elk]

Just saying one or two of these, sure all of them at the same time, maybe not.

[ashen spindle]

that would mean quadruple cache would only be double cache on two chips

[thick elk]

Still you would need some pretty good efficiency to get all that and a clockspeed increase while only going up to 500w

[ashen spindle]

new node

n5 quite good

[thick elk]

We shall see, and I shall see how bad my wallet is going to hurt after going for the next gen.

Or rather the money from work I have in reserve is going to hurt

Should have gotten a card start of this gen, but for now my 1080 can stretch it for a bit longer.

[ashen spindle]

it is an april fools tweet btw

[thick elk]

Obviously

[young pecan]

Best part is that kind of jump isn't actually out of bounds with recent generations.

Lmfao

[ashen spindle]

yea that's why I said it could be real or close at least

[young pecan]

Hmmmm.

Actually is that even remotely out of bounds?

That kind of spec looks pretty doable for highly binned next gen.

I mean shit, if the 3090Ti exists as it does today, y'know?

[ashen spindle]

ngl what made me believe it the least was the 500W

I dont think it can go that high lol

[young pecan]

Why not? 3090Ti already does.

[ashen spindle]

bc cooling limits on non monolithic dies

[young pecan]

Mmmm, I'm not so convinced there.

[thick elk]

wouldn't multi die be more coolable due to being more spread out, besides that going the AIO rout wouldn't be the first for amd.

[young pecan]

This.

It isn't like AMD hasn't done wack cooling shenanigans before. R9 Fury Nano, for example.

[ashen spindle]

no because this wouldn't purely be like Zen cpus, rather think a mix of that and v cache

so it's stacked on z axis thus limiting how much you can cool it from the top

I dont think it's the same as CDNA2 but probably just partially

[young pecan]

I can still see it being done with a really carefully designed cooling system.

Some absurd bullshit like running a shaped vapor chamber or something with lapped everything and minimal TIM.

[ashen spindle]

I mean from physical points, maybe, but since everything has been saying ada >>>>> rdna3 in power

I doubt they go that high since that would make ada impossible lol

[young pecan]

Ngl I really just want higher bus width.

Just gimmie what amounts to a 5700XT with a 1024bit bus and GDDR6X or what have you.

[ashen spindle]

noo keep away your shitty 6x

[young pecan]

It's good for mining.

[ashen spindle]

more IC >>> more hot memory chips

even for mining the higher bandwidth 6x chips cost more and run hotter

[young pecan]

I mean I'd be more down for HBM VRAM but that's expensive.

[ashen spindle]

also hey, means you can get amd for gaming and only nvidia gets scalped, so win win lmao

[young pecan]

Lmao naaah.

Nvidia is only worthwhile for mining because of compatibility.

If you want the king of all mining systems then it's always AMD.

An Octominer X12 or something and 12 5700XTs with Samsung memory and the required VBIOS mods.

That's like barely 800W.

630Mh/s.

[halcyon moss]

500 watt is literally half the wattage of the common space heater.

[ashen spindle]

gotta make your AC work hard for it's pay

[young pecan]

Live in Scandinavia and exhaust the heat into nature.

It's Earth's problem now.

nods

But like, think about that wattage. Barely 800.

Live in a house with 3 phase power and you can push 10kW per phase on a residential property.

You probably only need a full one phase to live an upper middle class life, thereabout.

So you think 20kW left.

[halcyon moss]

who changed my display name and why is this even possible

[young pecan]

Theoretically you can run 120 5700XTs out of your garage.

And that includes the 80% rule.

How does one store it? 10 Octominer X12s in a 48U rack, plus some power distro and a clonedeploy server.

[halcyon moss]

better

[young pecan]

One server rack. Would probably cost something like 120k USD to put together, but it'd run all of your heating and pay all of your bills.

[halcyon moss]

bad callum

[young pecan]

It'd make near enough 300 USD per day at the moment in shit conditions.

109k USD annually.

[ashen spindle]

yea if you conveniently forget taxes and all

[young pecan]

Taxes don't exist until you bring fiat money out.

And proxysto.re accepts monero.

[unkempt bobcat]

Hi

[ashen spindle]

maybe in 3rd world places like australia

[young pecan]

You'd love it here, our government is stupid.

There's loopholes everywhere.

[unkempt bobcat]

Hi

Hi

Hi

Hi

HiHiHi

[ashen spindle]

I'll rather pay taxes and done have the fear something living in my toilet is killing me

[unkempt bobcat]

Hi

Hi

[crimson wigeon]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[young pecan]

Nah. Just don't fuck the bugs and you'll be right.

Y'know, not one time have I ever had anything particularly dangerous inside my toilet.

No spiders, snakes, weird bugs, lizards, etc.

Not a single time.

[timid chasm]

Nah the ones in your toilet are just smart enough to hide when something comes near

[young pecan]

I'm ok with that. If the Huntsman doesn't show his extremely alarming face then I'll pretend he doesn't exist.

[ashen spindle]

I know you are lying because the kangaroo outside your door will box you if you tell the truth dont worry

[young pecan]

Nah nah nah.

It's not the Kangaroos you worry about.

Drop bears.

Those are scary.

[halcyon moss]

cuddly bastards

[young pecan]

Cuddle your face off, yeah.

Usually with teeth or claws.

[pliant heath]

When does the 60 HE ship in NA? I ordered the air freight shipping

[pale sigil]

End April begin May

[pliant heath]

nice 🙂

[wheat plume]

My friend just found out something about IntelliJ IDE that is fucking AWESOME

IT AUTO GENERATES UML DIAGRAMS FOR YOU

THAT PULL IN ALL THE CLASSES AND METHOD NAMES AND LINKS THEM AND SHIT

And here we were trying to install, setup and type out PlantUML commands to create these manually .-.

cause the college wanted us to use PlantUML

[misty saffron]

ah yes, jetbrains products

where you have to find something that’s nice

[wheat plume]

its nice its built in

PlantUML is so shit

and you need to install software to the PC to use it also, its not just an extension inside IntelliJ .-.

[ashen spindle]

what you dont like to pay for whats available for free?

[wheat plume]

why the switches so low??

wtf hawaii

[empty wren]

Ask Locke

Maybe he is a dwarf

[wheat plume]

1984

THIS IS A SMOKE ALARM

[ashen spindle]

congratz?

[wheat plume]

Dont they stop working after like a few years?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[wheat plume]

Fairly sure this one wont work

Yet they are still USING IT

[ashen spindle]

are you liveblogging some video again

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/op-8VCIX1mU

[empty wren]

Mmm

[misty saffron]

accessibility

[wheat plume]

yeah

I thought about that afterwards

Makes sense

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/xZ7XEptRtpM

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/zye7etf_bek

WSL is a true CROSS-PLATFORM

bish no it aint

[ashen spindle]

if you dont randomly decide to ignore a word that comes right afterwards it is not really wrong

[wheat plume]

synthesis

what?

[ashen spindle]

how is it not a product of combining windows and linux?

[obtuse wave]

i'm trying to switch my PC case and install fans but i'm kinda clueless about it - I got 2 case fans and 1 extra arctic one. Is it better to have 2 case fans front and Arctic as exhaust in the back or 1 front, 1 back and 1 top?

[true quest]

get an incense stick and set up your fans until you get positive pressure

[obtuse wave]

i... don't exactly understand what you just said 😄 pressure? do I need to even worry about it?

sigh, in hindsight trying to do it by myself might have been a bad idea but i'm too broke to hire a service guy for this again

[reef patrol]

What does your CPU cooler look like? Does it blow air into the CPU from the side or from "above"?

[obtuse wave]

from the side

it's ab350 pro4 + ryzen 5 1600 with stock cooler

[reef patrol]

Then it doesn't really matter. Throw em all in the front with the air blowing in.

[obtuse wave]

ok, so 2 front 1 back?

[reef patrol]

Note the direction based which side has the crossbar holding the motor.

[obtuse wave]

ok, thanks 😄 now just need to figure out the cabling

[reef patrol]

You might run out of headers to plug fans into. In that case a simple fan splitter is the way to go.

[obtuse wave]

yep I already ordered it, came in yesterday

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM5zR0kYRtU

I wish more prebuilt companies like Ironside existed. They just keep knocking out amazing designs. 😄

[reef patrol]

Ah yes - The rare and fabled GPU fan jerry rigged into a case fan.

[obtuse wave]

one more fan question

i'm confused about this

which one of these at the bottom should the 3pin thing go in?

[reef patrol]

Those are some very blurry pictures. By "which one" do you mean those two identically looking plugs in the bottom pic?

[obtuse wave]

yeah I think, on the bottom picture the top #1 plug connects 2 case fans, and either #2 or #3 plug (the ones visible) goes into motherboard and one is for the 3pin fan?

[reef patrol]

If the plugs look the same, doesn't matter which. Just means you have additional room for more fan plugging.

[obtuse wave]

i guess the pics reflect my mental state :/ i'm about as good photographer as hardware specialist

[reef patrol]

Yes but also no. Looks like the case has a built in fan controller.

[pale sigil]

Oh is someone building a computer?

[wheat plume]

oi m8, iz sumwan bldin a cumputhur o'er haiirr?

u gawt a loicense fo dat?

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/q4DpL1o_gXs

Its a day late but im finally watching this

[pale sigil]

The fuck is this

[reef patrol]

Windows activation shitting itself royally I assume.

[crimson wigeon]

Or you installed an insider build

[wheat plume]

Hek yeah ❤️

[empty wren]

But why

[wheat plume]

Dafuq is the gpay toggle for??? It literally just opens the app

[cursive summit]

So you could pay?

[reef patrol]

Yeah I don't think it's meant as a toggle, just a really intrusive shortcut.

[wheat plume]

Yeah... Seems that way

[empty wren]

So the way it should work is card selection

You might not have the correct app or something if it just opens the map

[wheat plume]

It opens gpay like I tapped on it the home screen

[true quest]

genius

innovation by google once again

[wheat plume]

Oh... Odd

[rancid roost]

imagine using android

[true quest]

what else would you use

[shadow minnow]

It’s smaller

[wheat plume]

It's so janky ..... The camera usage indicator

Why aren't the corners rounded????

[shadow minnow]

Ngl looks weird

Would get it bit more if it was overall design

But battery corners being round, while this…

[wheat plume]

Its meant to to be fully rounded since this is from AOSP Android and that follows material you theme

but idk why its not here

[empty wren]

The pins are exposed though

I will say though it should.be more rigid

[wheat plume]

face ID on Linux.....nice!

[pale sigil]

face id is shit unless its apples

tbh

[cursive summit]

Face id is shit unless its apples

FTFY

Don't give them more biometric data to siphon out from you and sell

In general, get a phone, and cut the microphone and selfie camera cables

Nice privacy

[wheat plume]

I love how its so easy to know where this OS comes from just from the UI design

this is so typically chinese modern app design

[empty wren]

They are supposed to keep it as math on a separate chip

[true quest]

just steal the math and reverse engineer the face

[pale sigil]

ive always been on insider and this has never happened before

[crimson wigeon]

It's a bog standard thing in insider builds

[pale sigil]

ive never seen it before

ever '

[crimson wigeon]

Well, in some insider builds it's gone because those are about to go to non-insiders

[pale sigil]

Doesn't bother me

was just confused

oh so thats what that update was

[crimson wigeon]

I know relatively recently the beta ring got a new build so yeah that's what you got

[wheat plume]

We all are Lady Gaga

[pale sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959840367690260550/959861365009432606/beheaded.mp4

[wheat plume]

:P

[misty saffron]

secure enclave doesn't include any storage

[rancid roost]

Imagine not using apple

[empty wren]

well that is disappointing

[misty saffron]

there is however separate storage that can ONLY be used by secure enclave

[empty wren]

oh alright

[misty saffron]

and secure enclave handles everything biometrics

[rancid roost]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

Windows 11

just imagine the tornado being full of useless redesigned layers

[misty saffron]

it's interesting how much info they provide on the secure enclave

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-enclave-sec59b0b31ff/web

[ashen spindle]

probably niche enough that PR didn't care about them providing useful info

[empty wren]

still will not stop hackers, also pretty sure i read apple hands out fully unlocked iphones

[misty saffron]

or they pulled their heads out of their asses and realized security through obscurity isn't a thing

[ashen spindle]

oh they know that, but they also know obscurity helps hiding other bad practices lmao

[misty saffron]

On system startup, iBoot assigns a dedicated region of memory to the Secure Enclave. Before using the memory, the Secure Enclave Boot ROM initializes the Memory Protection Engine to provide cryptographic protection of the Secure Enclave protected memory.

The Application Processor then sends the sepOS image to the Secure Enclave Boot ROM. After copying the sepOS image into the Secure Enclave protected memory, the Secure Enclave Boot ROM checks the cryptographic hash and signature of the image to verify that the sepOS is authorized to run on the device. If the sepOS image is properly signed to run on the device, the Secure Enclave Boot ROM transfers control to sepOS. If the signature isn’t valid, the Secure Enclave Boot ROM is designed to prevent any further use of the Secure Enclave until the next chip reset.

On Apple A10 and later SoCs, the Secure Enclave Boot ROM locks a hash of the sepOS into a register dedicated to this purpose. The Public Key Accelerator uses this hash for operating-system-bound (OS-bound) keys.

very not apple-like

tim cook pls fix

[empty wren]

i do got a question though hollow, is it not more difficult to jailbreak newer models

[misty saffron]

that would be logical..?

[empty wren]

alright, i think google actually did the same(part of Titan M)

[ashen spindle]

I hope they would, I wouldnt want a newer model to have the same/more bugs as old models?

[misty saffron]

also, no

[empty wren]

hmm maybe you are right cannot find the source

[misty saffron]

they've only been giving icloud backups

[empty wren]

oh i just meant there was kind of different os or something like red something

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/08/05/apple-is-giving-out-hacker-friendly-iphones-plots-mac-bug-bounty-sources/?sh=eb94e794f095 this may be it

[misty saffron]

oh that's what you're talking about

not exactly seeing how this is related honestly

if you expect any of those people to leak a zeroday... yeah, if you want to get sued

[empty wren]

well it may have secure enclave disabled(perfect for fiddling with) but yeah i get your point

in fact there a lot of jailbreaks that get shown but not released

[misty saffron]

they have most likely signed contracts that allow apple to fuck them straight in the ass if they leak anything

[empty wren]

[latent mural]

hi

i preorede wooting 2 he

before 2 months

will i get

the new updates??

for wooting 2 he??

water resistance and etc??

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/M5mMQ6YcDqY

[ashen spindle]

wrong channel but yes you do

[latent mural]

in which channel to go?

[ashen spindle]

#archived_questions_answers

[ashen spindle]

april fools is over

[shadow minnow]

Osu players want this product

[wheat plume]

:P

https://youtu.be/UK5OHUmIgcc

the under-desk wireless charger is so cool

I want

[shadow minnow]

Tbh feel like randomfrankp often leaves out negatives too much. Or well used to, haven’t watched him for a while

[wheat plume]

ye

so far he hasnt mentioned negatives

well, he did for the wireless charger

Some desks may be too thicc

[shadow minnow]

Especially was an issue in reviews, doesn’t matter for videos like this as much I guess

[wheat plume]

....

the price of the DAC rose since the video

its 60 instead of 40 now

AND OUT OF STOCK

I love how headphones are "Accessories" on Thomann

[empty wren]

Could always grind it down in one spot so long as it ain't metal or glass

[ashen spindle]

ahahahaha

man nvidia cant even get themselves to name AMD even once

[crimson wigeon]

Nah clearly it's some mysterious new competitor

[misty saffron]

maybe they're just not sure themselves who it is

[astral haven]

There's alot of legal hullabaloo that marketing has to deal with,
They just avoid saying anything trademarked

[cursive summit]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BINipofzYhg

[tribal berry]

my pc uses 850w 80+ gold

which ups i need for it?

[reef patrol]

UPS? We don't use those in the west.

[old marlin]

Like most youtubers

[old marlin]

They primarily sell instruments

[cursive summit]

Any UPS would be fines

[fickle ore]

W11 auto hdr is pretty pog

[wheat plume]

Opened up my file manager to see the sidebar become W I D E A F

[wheat plume]

"Please

[wheat plume]

Why is the mic usage icon the only thing in the taskbar using the accent color?

[pale sigil]

Because Windows

[halcyon moss]

maybe because its more important to be notified of it

[old marlin]

https://iponshop.de/shop/produkt/steelseries-aerox-9-wireless-schwarz/1990700

who is the target audience

[cursive summit]

Gamer

Singular

[old marlin]

well

is probably about as large as the actual target audience

[cursive summit]

That one sad kid that sees flashy lights and buys it cause pretty

[old marlin]

na those buy the naga trinity cause features

and it is cheaper

[cursive summit]

I was about to say

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-trinity/RZ01-02410100-R3U1

[old marlin]

so their parents will prefer it

[cursive summit]

Cheaper and same design

Good for MOBAs

[old marlin]

not even a terrible mouse

[cursive summit]

I'd argue destroying the side of the mouse with buttons like that is a crime against humanity

but eh, it maybe has its uses in eSports

[old marlin]

yea good part about the trinity is that you can swap the sides

but idk who the target audience for a lightweight MMO mouse is

not esports, can tell you that

[crimson wigeon]

More buttons is more betterer

[ashen spindle]

ngl for a lower price I would probbaly try that

[cursive summit]

is there an actual market for this shit?

[ashen spindle]

so I can be lazy and use the same mouse for ffxiv and csgo lmao

[crimson wigeon]

Yes, <insert screenshot of a mumorpagah with screen covered in those ability bars>

[ashen spindle]

the reason I never tried a mmo mouse was the weight

[old marlin]

uhhh

ig

[ashen spindle]

not a massive market sure

[old marlin]

time to learn that steelseries gg is the worst software on the market

[ashen spindle]

I mean for the price I wont try it lol

[cursive summit]

Why not just get one of those fancy things?

[old marlin]

will prob get cheaper quick

[crimson wigeon]

Then you have to take hand off mouse

[cursive summit]

I have like 4 buttons on my mouse and never use 3 of them cause they are uncomfortable af

[old marlin]

get foot pedals

[cursive summit]

CS:GO allows binding commands to keys?

[crimson wigeon]

Use every part of your body for inputs

[old marlin]

I know someone that actually has a custom built footpedal

[ashen spindle]

the whole point of having it on a mouse is to have more buttons with easy access, idk how that stream deck thing would be working for that

[old marlin]

that he uses for fps

[cursive summit]

I saw this on r/GlobalOffensive

Seems really damn ingenious

[old marlin]

that is the worst use of it I have seen

[cursive summit]

Like those keys are just binded to buy commands

[old marlin]

still bad

[ashen spindle]

yes but you can do that faster on regular keybinds and csgo doesnt need as many so it's not taking up many keys

so thats just dumb

fun, but not helpful

[old marlin]

might as well just bind it to arbitrary keyboard keys

[ashen spindle]

it's no problem to use what I have without breaking fingers and I have some spare slots but I could definitely see how an mmo mouse would help, and if I'd get one I really wouldn't want to switch mouse if I play a different game lol

[old marlin]

man that reminds me why I hate those oldschool mmos

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6950x-rx-6750xt-and-rx-6650-xt-pictured-release-date-moved-to-may-10th

[reef patrol]

Same - I genuinely never got MMO mice.

[cursive summit]

My grip just means that one button on the left side of the mouse is really close to the finger, so it's fairly convenient to bind it to something

The other's on the same side too far, and doesn't feel right to use

On right side both buttons are so far away from the fingers that I'd get one of those joint diseases before I'd even press that button

Coming from Viper Ultimate

[ashen spindle]

during regular gameplay I dont think there is a point, I'm mostly just curious if it would be easier for me to not have mistakes in my rotation in savage/ultimate

[shadow minnow]

I was wondering once how would a mmo mice be for switching inventory slots in mc

[cursive summit]

It's called number line

You have it above letters on your keyboard

[shadow minnow]

Well when you have one hand on mouse and another is holding w, ctrl and space, it’s hard to reach like 9 on kb

[cursive summit]

Mouse wheel then

[shadow minnow]

Well sure but it’s not as fast/accurate.
Or well maybe, never tried

But I really liked how you could switch sides on that one razer mouse, wish it was similar for more mouses

[fair gull]

any russians here whod be willing to get me access to a specific .su domain?

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/DylanOnChips/status/1510951284769234946 hm, maybe amd is finally able to just buy other companies that can do what they are lacking so in a few gens we will no longer have any USB issues and such? would be nice

Semiconductor News by Dylan Martin (@DylanOnChips)

Breaking news: @AMD to acquire SmartNIC and networking firm @pensandoio for $1.9 billion https://t.co/aKArG6oH24 #amd $amd via @TheRegister @ssharwood

Twitter · Apr 4, 2022, 12:03 PM

[pale sigil]

Did Whatsapp finally do a thing

[halcyon moss]

its like that for a few weeks already right?

[pale sigil]

Never got the notification for it till. Now

[halcyon moss]

probably a slower rollout

[frail basalt]

GUYS

how do i fix my double movement?

[crimson wigeon]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement there

You fix it by going to that channel and asking there

[reef patrol]

You're clearly not getting it... you look there for help. And ASK there. Go away

[frail basalt]

oh

thanks

[pale sigil]

https://i.redd.it/okp9gqadzor81.png

ye boi

They really did ramp up

https://i.redd.it/9386puaropr81.png

xD

[empty wren]

@reef tundra direct drive >:)

[obtuse wave]

success, I managed to switch the PC case and install new fans and hdd... spending 2 days on what would take 5 mins for somebody who knew what they're doing

[reef patrol]

It's a learning experience.

[obtuse wave]

idle temps are in 25c range, all fans work and I have 3 more TB to clog with games, so I guess worth it (and I learned more about screws and connectors than I knew my entire life)

in games gaining XP doesn't hurt so much tho 😦

[pale sigil]

Man the new task manager is so bad

Also

Barely doing anything

4 tabs/spotify/winscp/sharex/steam/whatsapp

Oh discord is using 1.4gb

[crimson wigeon]

UnUsEd RaM iS wAstEd RaM

[obtuse wave]

is it worth to clone Win10 from 3000-ish rpm HDD onto 7200 one?

[ashen spindle]

Oh god people still use hdds for windows

[obtuse wave]

if it was SSD I would probably do it but with HDD if I wouldn't gain much performance from it I might skip it to not have to deal with driver reinstalls

[crimson wigeon]

Windows on spinning rust is beyond unusable how do you manage

[reef patrol]

3000RPM....where have you found one like that? I literally can't remember seeing anything lower than 5400 for ... decades

[obtuse wave]

1 of my drives that i just took out was 12 year old Hitachi and current win10 drive is some old WD Blue

I was on a 500$ budget when I built my PC 4 years ago, only now got to upgrading the secondary components 😄

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/haram-anomaly-lock-sussy-haram-gif-21477600

[reef patrol]

Anyhow - Returning to your question. Sure? Maybe? Doubt you'll notice much of a difference if you can live with Windows on spinning drives to begin with. You have some patience.

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle

Mixing BLS2K8G4D32AESCK and BL2K8G32C16U4B fine?

Same CL16/Speeds

Not same die but google says thats fine

[reef patrol]

They appear to be identical indeed.

[pale sigil]

mhmm

[reef patrol]

I haven't tried applying XMP to a situation like that since DDR3 but.... I assume it would work at 3200 CL16.

[pale sigil]

Not for me ofc

[reef patrol]

I'd buy them from somewhere you can return them though just in case xD

[pale sigil]

i went with

CMW32GX4M2Z3600C18

back when i made my current build

😢

[ashen spindle]

Is it fine? yes. Is there a chance it just wont work at all and not boot? yes

my old pc had 1x4gb and 2x2gb ddr3 modules at one point, not issues

but in the same direction you can have issues when you use the exact same 2x kit twice

[old marlin]

Only recently forced a friend to swap to an ssd by buying him lne

Wasnot like he could not afford one either

[wheat plume]

🤔

IDK how to use an audio patchbay

fun...

[reef tundra]

Plug and play

[wheat plume]

I enabled JamesDSP

and it rerouted things

It has an EQ profile for my headphones...Lemme try it

is a lot quieter...

[crimson wigeon]

Plug and pray

[reef tundra]

Spray and pray

[wheat plume]

is working but idk how to use this

to make the audio sound better

the autoEQ for my headphones made it worse...

[reef tundra]

Audio is not a thing that can be magically made better

[crimson wigeon]

And especially when you're doing EQ stuff there's personal opinion in there as well as to what sounds good

[wheat plume]

the audio is so flat, and it just feels so boring to me

and gets harsh on some songs

[reef tundra]

What if the music is just boring

[crimson wigeon]

EQ it until it isn't boring then

[young pecan]

This is the downside of EQ.

Most good EQ profiles go for flat so you can accurately create music with them.

But maybe that ain't your taste either. :p

I suggest grabbing a harman curve profile for your headphones and modifying them until you like what you have.

You'll get a smoother baseline and still the peaks of what you enjoy.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/vVjrto8HYfk

[wheat plume]

The new gnome text editor is so damn good <3

[pale sigil]

You know what's not good?

GNOMEEEEE

[reef patrol]

EXPRESS VPN

[crimson wigeon]

But muh privacy!

[old marlin]

you love to see it

every 12th position throws an error

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

can send smart data when it finishes

it's an old drive

or well

old enough to be in a windows xp machine

but still sata

not IDE

[pale sigil]

In fact I use express vpn on a daily basis, the Internet Is a dangerous place, use it to fight of hackers wanting to steal your data and stop your isp from being nosey. /s

[old marlin]

for some reason "hackers" with a british accent is engraved in my brain

but idk where it comes from

[pale sigil]

That shit pisses me off so much

British accent on movies are so stupid

[old marlin]

also I use a VPN mainly to bypass shit isp routing

[old marlin]

don't think it was a movie

[pale sigil]

Well, tv shows then maybe.

[old marlin]

don't watch tv

outplayed

fr tho

was someone recording themselves for some reason

but idk what it was

ah

prob someone getting trolled in arma or something

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-nope-no-no-way-no-chance-gif-17243246

@pale sigil got a spammer 😛

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/skeet-shooting-trick-shot-pull-hunting-gif-18346464

[old marlin]

85k hours

almost 10 years

drive is from july 2011 btw

[crimson wigeon]

"I'm tired, boss"

[wheat plume]

JamesDSP

It's originally for Android but they made Linux versions too

[wheat plume]

I accidently used l33t speak

sud0

[formal vortex]

ARCH BTW

ctrl+r syu enter, fixed 🙂

[wheat plume]

ctrl + r??

[crimson wigeon]

interactive history search in bash

[wheat plume]

oo

in zsh, you can start to type a previous command, then hit up arrow to cycle through the history of that commmand

say you ran a long command you cant remember but you need to use it again, but you know what program it was

you can start typing the name of the program then use the up arrow

[formal vortex]

thats whats ctrl r does 🙂 you just type the thing you remember and if its not the first result you cycle backwards through search results

(by pressing ctrl r again)

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore even if you wont get this model which seems unlikely with the maybe once again increasing production time, https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/tx9oyt/my_quick_take_proscons_of_the_aw3423dw_after_a/i3kslkm/ this comment might be worth saving

[pale sigil]

The steam deck calculator is so bad

[ashen spindle]

if you say so, Lana

[reef patrol]

FINALLY someone's released a Windows 11 tweaker that gives me back the ENTIRE Windows 10 UI without losing 11 features.

Even the start menu.

[wheat plume]

o.o

[final flame]

I need pls

[reef patrol]

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

[final flame]

thanks

[fickle ore]

Cheers. Will keep in mind. Realistically need a new gpu first tho, HDR heavily decreases fps for now due to insufficient memory

[wheat plume]

ah yes, the UI is just slightly phallic

[reef patrol]

😏

[wheat plume]

That last name.... oh boiz

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume luv u

[wheat plume]

luv u tuuuuu

[velvet nimbus]

i love how i went into the evga queue in launch week of the 3070 and i just got to the front 2 years later

[wheat plume]

https://nypost.com/2022/04/05/coca-cola-launches-virtual-drink-inside-the-metaverse

👀

[old marlin]

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1511718827083669508

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress)

OK if this wasn't screwed up enough, here are two screen shots.

(a) Intel's new Patent, page 96
(b) My Zen1 microarchitecture article from August 2016.

https://t.co/SYTrB7IgXi

So yeah, time for me to go speak to Intel. @PGelsinger, let me know if you're free to talk

Likes

379

Twitter · Apr 6, 2022, 2:53 PM

how tf

[ashen spindle]

nah not as bad as it reads

patents are just a mess and people jumped onto things bc its the internet

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1511814296774262784/photo/1

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress)

I spoke to @Intel about the patent thing today, and had some good back and forth. It's patent 101 for a lot of people today. Here's what they're saying on the record, which is actually quite fair with all the fluff that went around.

Twitter · Apr 6, 2022, 9:13 PM

[old marlin]

oh yea I understood that they didn't intend to patent AMDs tech

but that explanation makes sense

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-retail-processor-has-been-tested-ahead-of-launch

Looks normal

Not the monstrosity it seemed in pictures

[ashen spindle]

this is how it always looked

[old marlin]

did you think about the AM5 CPU renders?

or this

presumably a mockup?

[ashen spindle]

yes thats zen4 as lisa showed it at CES

[cursive summit]

That's the one I was thinking of

Looked alien

Although I realize that's probably a very unsafe design to actually produce and release

[ashen spindle]

why

[cursive summit]

Aren't those some sort of capacitors?

Surely you don't want those just unshielded during operation

[ashen spindle]

that is nothing new?

intel has them outside too

[old marlin]

that was never a 5800X3D, it is the design for the AM5 socket CPUs

and from all we can tell it is at least close to what the final CPUs will look like

[ashen spindle]

it's an engineering sample that lisa showed as CES, so there will be almost no change

since coolers/socket etc. are already made so there is just tiny things that could change

[old marlin]

yea would assume that at most we will see some differences in what SMD components will be present on top

[ashen spindle]

the exact mold for the IHS might also change but if so then just for improvement in structure maybe

[formal vortex]

sucks they are moving to a new socket soon

[ashen spindle]

nah

am4 is still BGA which isn't great because it's much easier to bend pins than when the board has them

also am4 has been probably the longest running socket we have had in maybe forever

[formal vortex]

just think it sucks i cant reuse my x570, that said im not going to upgrade from my 3900x anyway

[ashen spindle]

I mean, it is needed at some point, it's much better than intels 2 gens per socket

[reef patrol]

What - Four generations wasn't enough? xD

[formal vortex]

do you count 3900xt as a new gen?

[reef patrol]

Que?

AM4 has had four generations of chips. 1 through 5xxx (we don't talk about 4000)

[formal vortex]

it is what it is, but it def closed the door for me to even considering upgrading my cpu. i will wait until my current combo isnt sufficient enough

[ashen spindle]

zen4 also use ddr5 so even if it was the same socket you couldnt use it

but if you compare am4 which support zen,zen+,zen3,zen3 as as well as some APUs that are pre-zen to an intel board which has 2 gens, it's massive

[reef patrol]

I mean...

As long as the motherboard supports it.

[ashen spindle]

huh?

[reef patrol]

DDR4/5 crossover boards.

[ashen spindle]

for one he has a ddr4 board, for the other that still doesn't work unless your board takes ddr4 and pretends its ddr5 if that is even possible

[reef patrol]

I was talking in general. Not like his board would take a new socket CPU anyhow 😛

[formal vortex]

i need a new gpu and monitor before i consider upgrading the cpu, 1060 gamer here 😦

[reef patrol]

Nothing inherently preventing a new CPU from using DDR4 as fallback.

[ashen spindle]

it does, zen4 does not have ddr4 controller as far as we know

[reef patrol]

That is a design choice - Not an inherent restriction.

[ashen spindle]

thats like saying nothing inherently prevents them to still use ddr2 or 1..

[reef patrol]

Both AMD and Intel did it with the DDR3/4 crossover. And Intel does it with 4/5.

[ashen spindle]

so like, I guess but that's kind of an odd point

[reef patrol]

If AMD deliberately leaves out DDR4 then that's on them.

[reef patrol]

I disagree - There's a difference between an architecture physically not being compatible, and leaving out components allowing for it.

[ashen spindle]

err

[reef patrol]

Although Intel could have handled DDR3/4 a lot better. I do seem to recall RAM frying 7000 series CPUs due to the change in voltages from an average of 1.5/1.65 to... what are they now. 1.2/1.35*

[ashen spindle]

if they have the component they can support it, if not then the arachitecture can not

it just depends on the memory controller

[reef patrol]

Again I disagree - Architecture is overarching, not on a per CPU model basis. They could spit out a Ryzen 6000DDR4 and a 6000DDR5. Same architecture, just different controller.

[ashen spindle]

sure, that is correct, your previous sentence just made both points be the same

[reef patrol]

No.

Removing the iGPU is also not an architecture change. It's a submodel of the architecture.

[ashen spindle]

a "architecture physically compatible" means it is missing the memory controller for that gen, aka they left the component out for it

[reef patrol]

So uh... rant among yourself all you want. That's not what I said at all.

[ashen spindle]

but you said it here lol

[reef patrol]

I literally did not.

[ashen spindle]

beyond the memory controller the architecture does not know about the memory spec so there wouldn't be a difference for any sort of ram

[halcyon moss]

zo the zen 3d is not really worth the price, it is fast, but not much faster, got it 🙂

invest money in gpu instead

[ashen spindle]

we dont have benchmarks of the 3d part yet

only some pre release info from some peruvian site that didn't test games when it was said outside of games it wont do much if anything

[halcyon moss]

hm true

well its probably less power hungry than the intel coutnerpart

[ashen spindle]

I see it as an upgrade option for any am4 gaming build on zen2 or older, so a nice option but nothing more than hat

and a field test of 3dstacked chips for amd

outside of servers

[halcyon moss]

ok you changed my mind, i am looking forward to more benchmakrt

[pale sigil]

u wot

it spikes to 50%

lol

[ashen spindle]

of what while doing what on what

[pale sigil]

its replay nvm

weird though taking so much

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-now-claims-laptops-with-arc-gpus-will-ship-by-the-end-of-the-second-quarter

ah yes, they launch Q1 but you can buy them till last day in Q2

very nice

guess launch date was for OEMs lmfao

[crimson wigeon]

Bruh

[ashen spindle]

if at this point they launch desktop parts when amd and nvidia launch next gen...

rip

[crimson wigeon]

Eh, what if the price is right

And availability is good

[thick elk]

Even so, it is a first for intel, driver compatibility may be shaky (on Windows) as with their igp's and if intel decides the consumer gpu market is not worth the effort, it ends there.
So unless you are planning to use linux, it may still not be the smartest move even at a somewhat lower price.

I really don't expect them to massively undercut amd / nvidia, but who knows maybe they are fine bleeding a lot of money to get a foothold.

[ashen spindle]

the consumer gpu market is the biggest market even for nvidis still despite their heavy shift to AI and all that lol

so unless they again fail to make the product, they want to take any share they can

[thick elk]

We shall see, their timing certainly doesn't help. Their cards would probably need some painful margins as looking at the info we have now, they are having a hard time competing against the current gen.
Then again Intel does have the resources to bleed money on gpu's for a couple of years

[ashen spindle]

and they have to make it on tsmc 6n for now, so not like they can use their inhouse to cover up some expenses

[thick elk]

They can still cover them up in their financials towards investors, but internally it would be pretty clear.

Still they did manage to keep up their doomed mobile cpu's for some time so who knows

[young pecan]

Just means they'll be really good for mining probably.

256 bit bus, cheap cards, core is eh.

That's practically memory mining gold. Especially if we see performance per watt even remotely close to the 5700XT.

[thick elk]

Maybe, but the future of GPU mining is quite uncertain. It largely depends on Ethereum, which plans to move towards proof of stake. Without ETH the market for mining gpu's becomes rather small.

[young pecan]

Oh fuck no it doesn't.

[ashen spindle]

also ETH PoS has been coming in 5 months for 3 years now

[young pecan]

Even if Eth turns PoS you'll see people flood into other currencies. From there I wager a massive tank for a while after followed by a mass exodus back into mining.

The only people selling cards are idiotic.

Remember as well that we have ETC to replace ETH and the mining is almost the same, takes like 40 seconds to migrate settings.

[thick elk]

It's nice that you can mine certain other cryptos, but their market cap is much smaller, especially with the higher energy prices you would be bleeding money.
I also don't think most of the other cryptos really have much of a chance of becoming much bigger.

Some gpu mining will still exist of course but it's market will be significantly smaller.

[young pecan]

For a while, yeah.

[ashen spindle]

oh people will find a way to hype up some other shit coin that will then be profitable to mine

[young pecan]

Network hashrate and difficulty will need to catch up, but we'll absolutely see heavily profitable mining.

Hell, most algos are built to adapt to heavy network strain in a matter of days.

[ashen spindle]

whats more fun is to look at something like intels crypto asic and see how well those adapt to non ETH algos

and if those will be so good it will drown out gpus

unlikely, but more likely than gpu mining just going away sadly

[young pecan]

Nah, not likely to happen.

Gotta remember ASICs are a heavy risk, they're popular but only popular when you can absorb that potential fuckup.

If you're gonna absorb 100k in ASICs you better have a million in pocket to fix the potential damage if the coin drops off.

Infrastructure rework, any upfront costs like AntBoxes, the now paperweights, etc.

And storage or selling.

[thick elk]

I am also not saying crypto is doomed, it's just highly uncertain.

[young pecan]

Oh ikr.

Gonna have a full 995~ TH of Eth performance needing to go somewhere.

And remember it's not 1:1, in cases like Autolykos2 it's almost 1:3 in terms of hashrate.

[thick elk]

Uncertainty is also the big reason gpu companies do not really focus on mining centric gpu's it's just not worth it to design an architecture mainly optimized for it.

[young pecan]

Yeee

Tbh that'll probably get better when Eth Sharding happens. A lot of minable tokens are ERC-20 after all.

[thick elk]

My view of the whole crypto market is kind of surface level. so I guess, so far it seems like a lot of speculation and outside of the black market not a lot of real utility.

[ashen spindle]

it's a bit less bad than the NFT things in terms of what it can be used for vs what it is used for

has some few things and could do a lot more, but at least some things exist

one thing I never looked up but a coworker mentioned was a ledger for fishers when they catch fish to prevent overfishing and making sure it's logged etc.

and using the decentralized aspect to make sure it cant be manipulated for overfishing or smth

[thick elk]

Seems like a terrible plan to me, governments can already require registration and do so. If you are going to do this internationally, you still have to deal with national quota, which is something individual countries will probably not want to change, even if they do it may result in localized over fishing.

[ashen spindle]

its been like 2 years since I heard of it so I dont remember the fine details, but it sounded like just using an existing system and have it tamper proof

even if it's not in use yet or so, there are legit options you can use it for at least, though most of them are just dumb

[young pecan]

Tbh crypto is currently at it's most risky stage.

[thick elk]

Sure, I will grant you that, as of right now their actual use does have fairly little utility. The crypto bro's causing these huge market swings sure are not helping things settle

[young pecan]

Needs more adoption to have use and that requires massive companies to tie into it.

[ashen spindle]

90% of cases are still just using it as a database and you could just use a normal databse for it

[young pecan]

What we actually need is a new stablecoin that's backed and vetted by a government or something.

[young pecan]

The entire point is that it's tamper proof.

[ashen spindle]

yes I know that, but thats not what 90% of projects are using it for lmao

[young pecan]

Such a problem.

[ashen spindle]

or if they do, then to a degree that a regular one would do it too

aka they just make it more complicated and waste processing power compared to a regular DB

[young pecan]

I mean that should surprise nobody.

All of the good efficiency tech is still years out and none of the major use blockchains are using any of it.

Young tech, it's in it's 'spew carbon everywhere with brute force' stage.

Efficiency comes after robust network, sadly.

[thick elk]

Crypto will never be as efficient as a regular database.

[young pecan]

Oh of course not.

Having a centralized anything comes with the benefit that all of your components are physically close.

[ashen spindle]

hence why it should not be used for those cases, but rather for something where you want the decentralized nature, which is rare

[young pecan]

I agree.

But.

With techs like sharding it's possible to reach minor DB usecase.

Nothing with massive amounts of IO, but for archival purposes.

[thick elk]

Illegal markets, are a primary case of that.
And probably disfunctional governments could be another.

[ashen spindle]

yes, though with most cases of anonymous options, also a way for people going undercover etc.

(though not 1:1 in how many cases lmao)

[young pecan]

One thing that would be good is trading of physical goods.

Things like selling a house take fucking forever and are expensive to boot, a lot of that cost could just be ripped away using probably modified NFT data.

[thick elk]

Definitely not

you want accountability

[ashen spindle]

I mean, yes, but could also be done all the same in a modernised system without it lol

just because governments are old as fuck in technology usage doesnt mean nfts would modernise it, would still cause issues and you could do the same without it

[young pecan]

Then you're limited by oversight in the local area. Can't buy X thing in Y location without a permit for Y location needing Z certificate, that kind of thing.

[ashen spindle]

and for something like a house market is 100% something you want to be able to fully regulate

[young pecan]

Which you can also do, yes. Hence why I say modified.

[ashen spindle]

and not have it be on a technology where you coudl recently just take everyhing because double negative checks passed as accepted

[young pecan]

Hence the modified tag I put above.

Wouldn't use current NFTs for anything important. Fuck that.

Tech is garbage, slow, and frail.

But I see the idea and where it could go.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but if you dont want to entire use it, why use it at all

basically all benefits are lost if it's just use as a backup/option that isnt binding

[young pecan]

Did you not read the modified word?

It's not good enough as is, hence it would need massive modifications to become good enough.

[ashen spindle]

modified to the degree it's not longer an NFT sure

[young pecan]

Oh that's already a hella vague description of the tech.

There's like 7 chains doing NFTs in completely different ways all called the same thing.

rolls eyes First thing first would be finding a standard everyone can sorta agree on then improving on it.

Wouldn't be an NFT as we currently have them, but that is the goal of technological improvement.

[ashen spindle]

I mean sure, but at that point it's also just an evolution of already used system so might as well skip the step where nft/crypto gets invovled and it's the same result lol

[young pecan]

In which case we circle back to the 'this is controlled by a single source' problem.

[ashen spindle]

sure but that is not a problem in most cases, and definitely not one in the housing example

[young pecan]

If you can improve a system, why not?

It's been happening since the first time our ancestors picked up a rock to hit something, no point in stopping now.

[ashen spindle]

I dont think having something like housing market move away from regulators is not an improvement though lol

[young pecan]

No no, you'd keep regulation, but change the method of data access.

Wouldn't deregulate it entirely.

That's how we get cult cities.

[thick elk]

Maybe think of this:
Money can be completely anonymous and trade can be decentralized.
The reason it is not is simply because we don't want it to be.

[ashen spindle]

idk I've seen what OPskins tried to do with nft tech before valve shut them down (funny how they did that btw, valve lawyer contacted them via twitter dm) and it's only gotten worse since then

[young pecan]

On that same token you can tie a wallet to a government ID for both faster and easier trade.

[ashen spindle]

that was a legit lawyer and not a troll twitter lmfao

[young pecan]

If it's not reliant on a government or single system then no single system is responsible for upholding the functionality.

[thick elk]

This also means no system to settle disputes.

[young pecan]

Not really. You could set it up to go through a government office for local buys, but have the actual funding and paperwork be far faster and cheaper.

I'm sorry but 5 to 18 weeks to settle a house is garbage time frame.

Like ok sure, if you include inspections and paperwork that might be ok on the lower end.

But that's JUST money transfer and holding.

[ashen spindle]

I think we agree on that and just disagree on the point if a better system actually needs to still be centralized or not

I think it can be massively better and do what you envision without anything nft-adjacent

[young pecan]

I'd say the method to interconnect it should be decentralized and if you want a house controlled by a state, you go through a state website attached to your decentralized system.

This would just mean that actually pushing data between people is a few things.
1: Completely transparent for all to see
2: Faster
3: Verifiable by third parties.

That's just not something we have atm.

And like, why does it cost 20 grand to just transfer a house from person A to person B?

Nobody should be getting paid 20 thousand fucking dollars for what should be minutes of paperwork and verification.

Nobody is convinced that the on average 12 weeks and 20 grand is actually needed for paperwork to go through, yeah?

Like it's unneeded and makes buying a house super stupid since if you're not living there for 5+ years you're losing money.

Like think about the fact I can go buy a Rolls Royce worth 2 million dollars and the clearance takes 2 days.

On the spot if I have cash.

[thick elk]

In terms of administrive costs and time that sounds like a lot.
Certainly not that much here in the netherlands.

[young pecan]

Buy a house worth 13% of that price and it unironically takes WEEKS.

[young pecan]

Lucky.

[ashen spindle]

It makes sense it takes longer since you need to change info on ownership for gas/electricity and such but it doesn’t take that long here either

As for extra cost idk not looking at a house atm lmao

[young pecan]

It depends how much it costs, what you're buying, the price range, any additional service, who needs to operate the deal.

All that.

[thick elk]

I think you may also be misinformed about is done for the 20k spend as lot of things have little to do with simple transfer ownership. Think taxes, building inspections, ensurance stuff.

[young pecan]

Like if you bring a real estate accountant into the mix then motherfucker you best be ready to pay thousands more for something that can be done by an algorithm.

[young pecan]

Yes and I'm willing to pay 10 grand for a house worth 160, I understand insurance and various departments need to validate shit.

But 20 grand? No.

I mean I'm working at buying a house soon, the prices are absolutely fucked.

And at least 80% of the paperwork can be done via algorithm. Why it takes forever I don't know.

And I suppose we can look into the cost, right?

Property tax, pay for your workers, cost to transfer over services, accountant fees, etc.

If you're buying a duplex the property tax is slightly higher.

All in all it's about 13k for a house worth half a mil.

So where that extra 7k is going? Fuck knows.

[thick elk]

Tax is completely separate from costs though.

[young pecan]

I'm counting it in, my dude.

The entire cost of moving a house from one person to another.

It just ain't the 20k average, not in aussieland.

[thick elk]

Sure but governments need to make money one way or another. So no algorythm is going to change that.

[young pecan]

And I mean I wouldn't mind paying 20k if it wasn't a quarter goddamn year for everything to be done.

Have it ready for me within 2 weeks, sure fine. Whatever.

You don't need more than 2 weeks for that task.

Get your dudes over to inspect the property while you sort the books, finalize transaction, bank has a waiting time, once confirmed your services can be swapped over in 2 or 3 business days.

[ashen spindle]

I feel like that is just proof there are bigger issues in your governments system and those could be fixed by just normal modernization

[young pecan]

Yep and I'm honestly fine just removing a lot of the fuckup from the various government parts.

If they get generously 5% of the power to screw up I won't blame them if there's a severe fuckup.

Just like I don't blame my ISP if the cables need a service. That ain't their job.

On that then, why not decentralize a lot of this just so the screwup isn't even in government hands for the most part? If the data is fully transparent then I can see exactly what's happening at any given time.

Then nobody has an excuse to be needlessly tardy when I can point the finger exactly at the idiot responsible.

[ashen spindle]

If it’s not centralized who is taking responsibility for issues and can fix things

[young pecan]

Oh no no, you can centralize bits.

But don't leave a massive important web of critical shit to one irresponsible set of dumbasses that can't use google.

This is why I like dAPPs so much. It's just a little centralized chunk that can be efficient that's connected to the decentralized web they can't screw up.

And if they fuck up? Someone else will replace their stupid little asses.

[ashen spindle]

And we’re back to my opinion that making them more tech literate an modernizing things will do just as well if not better for government things

[young pecan]

Yep, but even with tech literacy I don't believe in giving larger powers the ability to fuckup everything because there's 8 or 10 idiots in a boardroom that haven't experienced ground life in 36 years.

[pale sigil]

@young pecanoi

[young pecan]

Oi

[pale sigil]

type nft

[young pecan]

I smell a bot command.

[patent glacier]

NFTs suck, fite me.

NFTs suck, fite me.

[pale sigil]

bruh

800dpi makes me cry

[timid chasm]

Are you one of those 4000 dpi guys?

[pale sigil]

16k to 1400 to 1200

[timid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-blink182-gif-4982401

what's your cursor speed?

[pale sigil]

default

in windows i mean

[timid chasm]

what # is default? like 5?

[young pecan]

I mean uber high DPI isn't actually as odd as people think.

Crank the DPI to like 25k or so and turn your sensitivity down to nothingness.

[timid chasm]

so then 10? that's fucking fast for me

[old marlin]

Which windows version

[timid chasm]

win10

[old marlin]

Should be 6/11 for windows 10 and older

[timid chasm]

mine currently goes to 20

[old marlin]

A

Should be 10

[cursive summit]

China unveils domestically produced competitors to Nvidia & AMD

[reef tundra]

Looks like a cheap knockoff

[cursive summit]

Will probably have perf similar to those CPUs they had, 6 years behind

Although, is that a fanless card?

[reef tundra]

Single fan

the other none

[cursive summit]

Passive cooling is cool but that doesn't scream power

[young pecan]

Fun fact, the S60 there apparently uses LPGDDR4X.

Weird choice.

And the S2000 apparently has 32 gig of undisclosed memory.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-xd-gif-23389115

[young pecan]

S2000 has 4096 MUSA cores, S60 has half.

Apparently said S2000 reaches 12 Tflop while being fanless...?

[reef tundra]

What is a MUSA core. Multiple Uni-lateral Sum Accumilators?

[young pecan]

So we have a 12 Tflop card with 32 gig of unknown memory and 4098 MUSA cores?
What in the chimera fuck is this card supposed to be?

And single slot at that.

[cursive summit]

The hell is a Mansa Musa core?

[young pecan]

Fuck even knows.

[cursive summit]

I'm guessing they copied off AMD's cores, what're they called

[halcyon moss]

a cheaper lower performance card but when you need more memory?

[ashen spindle]

12tflops doesnt even mean anything since we dont know in what precisions and such

[young pecan]

Which has me confused, yeah.

Like ok fine, that could mean it's as fast as mid end nvidia.

But passively cooled in one slot?

With 32g mem?

[young pecan]

That's just an odd mix of stuff to mass produce.

[ashen spindle]

well know more once someone manages to translate the slides

who knows maybe it even says 2030 as release target idk

[young pecan]

Lmfao imagine.

[reef tundra]

The GT710 is the best videocard available on the market

[halcyon moss]

that depends on the market you are in :finger against head tap:

[cursive summit]

So, this company was created back in 2020 by a VP of Nvidia China.

How did they create in 2 years a fully working, supposedly, and half decent product when Intel can't do that

[ashen spindle]

what does it have to do with intel

[young pecan]

Intel is Intel and doesn't know how to Intel?

[ashen spindle]

intel can do this and has done so for years