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wheat plume
wheat plume
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......EXCUSE ME WHAT??

shadow minnow
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I am probably really blind but where do I see console output using visual studio?

chrome estuary
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does anyone have any good hands on reviews on the steam deck?

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i wanna see something that's not like... linus or those big name idiots personally

wheat plume
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The Linux Experiement
Gardner Byrant
The Phawx
Gamer Nexus
Linux for Everyone

ashen spindle
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no big names
lists big names sorta dogekek

misty saffron
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linux for nobody please

chrome estuary
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well i said "big name idiots"

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not just big names

wheat plume
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yeah xd

misty saffron
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speaking of linux

chrome estuary
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i'm watching ETAPrime's emu video on it

wheat plume
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ah nice

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I like ETA Prime

misty saffron
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i wonder if open source neckbeards have written a firewire driver for the mac mini

wheat plume
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I think that already exists

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oh wait, for that device, idk

misty saffron
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ok how do i get a gui on ubuntu server

chrome estuary
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bruteforce and ignorance.

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or like uh

wheat plume
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install xorg, display server such as x11 or wayland and then a window manager

misty saffron
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amazing thanks

wheat plume
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or a desktop

chrome estuary
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sudo apt install gnome might do it

misty saffron
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i understood all of that

wheat plume
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Yeah, Lumi's command might work

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might idk if itll pull in xorg or not

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if it does, great

ashen spindle
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install ubuntu desktop on the server

misty saffron
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n

wheat plume
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that is the easy approach but would need a clean install

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Try Lumi's command

misty saffron
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yeah well

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that's a lot

chrome estuary
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yeah that's gnome for you

wheat plume
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and Xorg

chrome estuary
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it's pulling in a full xorg server plus a full gnome install

misty saffron
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it's fine it's got a 512gb ssd

chrome estuary
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you could just get xorg and xfce if you want something smaller

misty saffron
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it's fiiiine

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perfectly adequate temps

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?????

wheat plume
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wut

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y it get libreoffice??

solar hinge
misty saffron
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WHAT FOR

wheat plume
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🤔 strange

misty saffron
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it's linux it knows better

chrome estuary
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it's probably some massive gnome package.

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that comes with everything

wheat plume
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Maybe he installed the full app suite for gnome too

chrome estuary
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and not just, "here's a desktop fuck off"

wheat plume
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whuch you dont really need

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yeah, perhaps

misty saffron
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yep it is installing libreoffice

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oh well

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i got storage dogekek

wheat plume
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maybe "gnome" just gives you the entire app suite, but I didnt think office would be part of that

misty saffron
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ok

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what do i do now

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how to connect

reef tundra
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startx

chrome estuary
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uh

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idfk

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doing that shit remotely? nfc

wheat plume
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wait this is WSL???

misty saffron
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ssh from wsl

wheat plume
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you are using WSL to remote into another machine?

misty saffron
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yes

reef tundra
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Using the x flag?

misty saffron
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it's a good device

wheat plume
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why not ssh directly? instead of adding WSL into the route?

misty saffron
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because i did not think windows has an ssh utility

ashen spindle
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use putty for ssh on windows

reef tundra
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openssh

misty saffron
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why

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i can just wsl

reef tundra
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Its build in

misty saffron
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oh

reef tundra
misty saffron
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indeed it is

reef tundra
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It was announced in 2015

misty saffron
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and scp as well

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well fuck me i guess

reef tundra
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Included since Windows 10 since version 1803.

wheat plume
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SCP CONTAINMENT BREACH

misty saffron
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?????

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oh

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18

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yeah it can go fuck itself

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18 doesn't work on mac mini

wheat plume
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I cant find a solid answer to determine if the Deck's triggers are analog or not

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Some people say yes, I thought Valve at one point said no

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idk for sure

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He also says it has analog triggers in this video

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so maybe at one point they decided to add them

crimson wigeon
wheat plume
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So they did change it.....

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nice

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They initially said it wont have analog triggers

crimson wigeon
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But maybe they're no longer dual stage like the Steam Controller 😦

wheat plume
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I want Valve to make headphones now

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Everyone I saw review the Deck are impressed by how good the speakers sound

ashen spindle
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audio design has about as much relevance to speakers as shader code to a monitor panel though?

wheat plume
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Yeah, but even when reviewers are playing non Valve games on Deck, they are really surprised by the speaker quality

ashen spindle
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yes I didnt say anything implying otherwise

misty saffron
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i have to say

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that’s the lanapost of the year

wheat plume
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hmm?

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This seems super niche....
Isn't the only reason to buy a Mac to be able to use MacOS?

crimson wigeon
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Perhaps, but apparently it is pretty good hardware... and some nerds like to reverse engineer and make things run Linux

ashen spindle
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or for using it when apple deems it's EoL

wheat plume
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Ahh
EOL fair enough

astral haven
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buying a fashion product to use the included software is kinda dumb af

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people buy for the image

shadow minnow
shadow minnow
astral haven
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but thats not what the products are for

shadow minnow
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Wdym?

astral haven
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justification vs purpose

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the purpose of the macs is to be a fashion product

shadow minnow
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Nope

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Not really

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Fashion product may be huge part of their market

astral haven
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name a single feature of a mac that takes away from apples brand image

shadow minnow
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But it’s not their purpose

astral haven
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because I can name several features that were removed to add to their brand image

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like ports

shadow minnow
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That doesn’t make it fashion product

astral haven
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and intercompatibility

shadow minnow
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I wouldn’t call it fashion product when it has other higher purpose.
If apple put like a13 instead of M1 into MacBook Air my mind would possibly change

astral haven
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so there are many reasons to make design decisions for a product

shadow minnow
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Sure I just wouldn’t say it’s a fashion product

ashen spindle
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fashion product doesnt mean it can not do anything else, but as he said, they dont make anything that would hurt that part

shadow minnow
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Though definitely huge part of it is sth to do with fashion

ashen spindle
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so the main priority is fashion

astral haven
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the reason with the most engineering time put into it is the main function of the product

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the only thing that apple puts more effort into than fashion is irreparability and maximizing ewaste

shadow minnow
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Apple silicone

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For example

astral haven
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and those benefit fashion because it makes the product more exclusive

shadow minnow
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Sure it is from a big part fashion focused

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But with things like apple silicone

astral haven
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85:15

shadow minnow
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Apple still does a lot of development

astral haven
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85% fashion 15% everything else

ashen spindle
astral haven
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^

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fashion is ROUGH

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but its still a fashion first product

ashen spindle
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you're just once again rushing to defend apple on a point nobody even made dogekek

astral haven
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^

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people buy macs because of other people having macs

shadow minnow
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Well sure but making it sound as if apple only focused on design and made it from some stuff.
Like when you have fashion brand earphones

shadow minnow
astral haven
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you are right
apple is primarily a money company first and a fashion company second

ashen spindle
astral haven
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and it has to be one that is possible to see on a product or spec sheet

shadow minnow
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Don’t think it makes it be a fashion product. There is huge focus on fashion aspect but still huge on other stuff. Imo way different than when you have just fashion products, like the earphones Linux did review on from some expensive clothing brand I forgot the name of

ashen spindle
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the point that was made is "apples first priority is fashion" and you argue "no, they do other things" which nobody said they didn't

astral haven
shadow minnow
# astral haven people buy macs because of other people having macs

Hmm this is true for many people.
However thing is, especially now with M1, people also buy it because of tech stuff, not just fashion.
Though with iPhones it’s really likely majority of people buy iPhones just because of brand. But that’s… another complicated topic

astral haven
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i do agree that apples primary focus is making money not being fashionable
but the primary focus of the product design is to be fashionable

astral haven
shadow minnow
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Imo their focus is marketing

astral haven
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fashion
marketing
potato potato

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fashion is the adjective marketing is the noun

shadow minnow
astral haven
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miniled is a marketing term

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oled still blows the snot off of lcd image quality wise

shadow minnow
shadow minnow
astral haven
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you are confused

shadow minnow
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Even the 1600 peak nits are sometimes barely enough

astral haven
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emissive is not transmissive

astral haven
shadow minnow
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Imo not just

astral haven
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marketing is the name of the action you take to make your product fashionable

shadow minnow
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Well nvm this pointless since it just about definition of words now dogekek

astral haven
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its really not complicated tho

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apple is all about looking good
the products are designed with that first and everything else is allowed to exist as long as the image doesnt get hurt

ashen spindle
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joins argument
argues point that wasn't made
moves discussion to something else
now its pointless to continue

shadow minnow
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Is it not though when marketing fashion being same was just definition thing, which is kinda subjective too

astral haven
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again you arent arguing against the meaning of my words just the exact verbiage i used

shadow minnow
astral haven
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focused on in what way

ashen spindle
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calling it fashion is just a lot easier since it's just one word instead of describing it as the features that make it presentable and enticing to the consumer to buy it over functionality

astral haven
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^

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and most tech companies are trying to copy the apple formula lmao

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but they arent as devoted to brand image as apple is

shadow minnow
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Hmm if you see it that way I guess.
Just myself focused on not entirely same meaning of fashion dogekek
But yeah apple main focus is definitely brain image

astral haven
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fucking apple jesus christ

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this is from the wan show

ashen spindle
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ahahahah

shadow minnow
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Hmm that’s just dumb ngl

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Not even fashionable of them dogekek /s

ashen spindle
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but it is

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removes an "ugly" power port

astral haven
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heres the thing

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zoom in on linus there

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he literally just removed the power cable

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its just really really hard

shadow minnow
# ashen spindle removes an "ugly" power port

Well with MagSafe they made it look pretty nice. Imo it’s worse for brand image since it’s just annoying customer experience, to the point where it’s worse than if it had a power port.

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But mainly it’s just dumb

ashen spindle
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how tf does the display relate to phone charging

shadow minnow
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Really should have just used the iMac archer

astral haven
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but customer experience doesnt matter for brand image if everyone just hides their experience like often happens for mac

astral haven
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i mean

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some of them

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some of them its just a moronic power plug with far too many failure points
but on the higher models it carries ethernet

shadow minnow
astral haven
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its hidden because normal people cant afford it

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and the only people who will be interacting with it will be professionals who will have staff to set it up for them and it pros who's job it is to deal with bs

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1600

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anyways give me a steam deck

shadow minnow
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But ngl there are so many stereotypes and stuff between less tech people. Like first level you have people just buying apple products because of the brand. And like genuinely so many people would buy any iPhone to have iPhone.
On the other side you do kinda have people buy iPhones for brand usually = they bad at everything. Then you also have general stereotypes like people thinking iPhones are best at sth, like photography, or thinking they are always bad at battery… even if they think phone sucks overall.

ashen spindle
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watching wan show now, that is the worst power cable unplugging I've ever seen dogekek damn he needed so much force

astral haven
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like ffs this is a solved problem

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nema 5-15p

shadow minnow
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Does it break if you force remove it or is it just really hard?

astral haven
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as far as i can tell it goes kinda like -_-
and a metal spring goes into the dip
when you rip it out it gouges the plastic of the cable a bit

ashen spindle
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you have to pull hard enough to make the entire monitor strain

astral haven
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^

wheat plume
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It seems some of the Q1 Deck customers are putting reviews out on youtube lately

ashen spindle
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also as linus mentioned, more ewaste since nothing else uses that cable

astral haven
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yup

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that primary ewaste also creates secondary ewaste as all of the replacement cable market will just have to throw away their stock when the product goes eol

crisp granite
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more kids stripping those wires to harvest that juicy copper to not starve

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apple looking out for the destitute

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/s

astral haven
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i know sony isnt great
but imagine if sony engineers had apple budget

ashen spindle
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oh I can imagine

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imagine psvr2 but not limited to ps5

astral haven
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i more meant their business divisions

ashen spindle
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oh lul

astral haven
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like ffs the highest bandwidth processors in the world are already made by sony

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50 megapixels at 90 fps

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actually no thats lower than epyc or gpus but still

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like everything here is just well made

ashen spindle
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ya they are quite good in almost all areas

astral haven
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imagine if they had consumer products /s

cursive summit
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We have something very interesting for our readers today. We recently got our hands on some internal documents that confirm Intel is preparing to launch a next-generation AI training accelerator with monstrous capabilities later this year. Dubbed the Habana Gaudi 2 platform, it will take aim at NVIDIA's new datacenter products (launching later t...

wheat plume
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Installed fabric and sodium in Minecraft

Running between 90-115 fps on my laptop with integrated graphics

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Impressive

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And no world gen lag

young pecan
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Use pregen mods and simply brute force the world generation.

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Say you gen a 10,000 chunk radius around 0 0 then your worldfile size might be like 30 gig or something.

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Takes a hot minute to run tho, usually a week or something since it doesn't scale cores.

wheat plume
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...

young pecan
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The real victory condition is brute force and file size. lul

ashen spindle
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put it on a server and let the cloud handle it then download the file ez

young pecan
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Yee, basically.

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An old friend of mine used to just rent out shitty Azure servers for a month and pregen 4 or 5 worlds at a time.

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Probably the best thing about pregenning servers is that mods like Roguelike Dungeons don't cause cascading worldgen lag and are thus actually playable.

fickle ore
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@ashen spindle Ppl found a way to get Zen 3 USB driver completely in message signaled interrupt mode. No more ISR flooding anymore.

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Needs a modded AMD USB driver (it's signed)

ashen spindle
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neat got a link?

fickle ore
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So u gotta figure out which one is the direct cpu port

ashen spindle
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yeah I was just curious about a post about it, dont think I need it myself ^^

fickle ore
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U need to install the driver first then hub driver too

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There is no post specifically for zen 3 I think, only some guys in a latency discord I'm in. There is that win-raid forum link for Zen 1/2. We had not heard of anyone getting it to work on Zen 3 yet because the usb is different at hardware level, but ppl found a way. The W8/10 driver didn't work, but the W7 driver worked for W10/11 yesterday for folks with x570.

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dated 2018 😄

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There is no official AMD usb driver for zen 3, idk why. The microsoft default driver isn't working in MSI mode unlike the official ones from AMD.

halcyon moss
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hm running stuff in docker does require some rethinking of stuff.. Like how do i run cron jobs

ashen spindle
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whats also fun is having to figure out what your programs server's IP is.. when it runs in docker via kubernetes that someone else set up..

halcyon moss
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the answer is to run a jobs container

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guess i'll have to build an other gigabyte container

cursive summit
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AMD EPYC 7773X 64-core server CPU to cost 8,800 USD The pricing and official specs of the upcoming EPYC 7003 series have been confirmed.  The Milan-X series, AMD first data-center processors featuring 3D V-Cache, will launch on March 21st. This is the same date that we reported earlier this month. AMD’s EPYC 7003 series will […]

halcyon moss
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8800 usd 🙂

cursive summit
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Those PCIe lanes must come at 100$ a pop

pale sigil
cursive summit
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Studio display?

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That an apple product of sorts?

ashen spindle
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thats only a grand more over regular milan

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compared to intel thats cheap as fuck

misty saffron
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still absolutely nothing for companies

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i’ve had like 5 of those, don’t think i had any issues

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all from different sellers?

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could’ve just gotten unlucky tbf

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cheap chinese electronics are cheap chinese electronics

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qc isn’t in the price

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sounds like a busted chip to me

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the eeprom part works but not anything else

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good thing is you can usually get the money back i guess

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with little to no proof

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sounds about right

final flame
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but why tho

solar hinge
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@reef patrol finally got the 3090 in my gaming rig 😛

reef patrol
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ohmy

crimson wigeon
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Minesweeper, but with RTX ON

solar hinge
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It seems scores are on the low side because I only have two ram sticks

cursive summit
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Someone did a direct comparison between DLSS 2.3 and FSR 2.0 in Deathloop

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Static imagery obviously

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DLSS and FSR appear to be very similar, all depends on how FSR handles motion

pale sigil
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@cursive summitwould be nice if we saw both

ashen spindle
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gdc talk tomorrow should have some more iamges

shadow minnow
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Especially zooming in on the right side

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Especially the pipe

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But overall

pale sigil
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DLSS still better

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but damn

shadow minnow
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It’s strange how big the difference is there

pale sigil
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that is close

shadow minnow
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Hmm for quality

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For performance still find it far tbh

pale sigil
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this doesn't show perf

shadow minnow
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There are two settings

pale sigil
shadow minnow
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You can chose perf comparison

pale sigil
shadow minnow
shadow minnow
ashen spindle
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it's not even released and still getting changed, way to early to call one better than the other

pale sigil
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i thought you meant fps

shadow minnow
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True. But in this version just think performance looks better for dlss while quality actually may be better on far from that image

pale sigil
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FSR has come along quite fast

wheat plume
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I still have yet to learn the difference between suspend and hibernate...

true quest
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all that matter is that shut down doesn't shut down your computer

wheat plume
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hm?

astral haven
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suspend = ram stays awake but cpu stops

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hibernate = ram gets copied to storage and both cpu and ram stop

reef patrol
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What Carb said. Suspend/Sleep is just snooze mode. Shuts off monitor signal, CPU goes into a low power sleep state.

Hibernation is full on shutting the system down. But it copies the RAM and CPU to the harddrive, so that it can start right back up where it was as if though you had just hit a pause button and went away for a week.

TLDR; if you close the lid on a laptop, then it goes into sleep mode. Still draws power to keep the system alive for a quick return to work.

young pecan
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Not real time, but not too far off either.

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The interesting kind are QNVDIMMs that have RAM on one side and NVRAM on the other with a few capacitors so in the case of a power loss it can quickly flash any data to the non volatile side.

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Super interesting.

reef patrol
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That's pretty cool. Less reason to use Sleep Mode, less battery wear as well.

young pecan
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Yee

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And it straight up lets you boot an actual full scale server in a matter of minutes.

reef patrol
young pecan
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And btw I'm also talking booting VMs and such as well.

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So if you had a Proxmox server you can theoretically store all of your VMs and CTs in a NVRAM buffer and just have it updating every few seconds.

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Means you can bring a power crashed server online without spending 3 hours booting everything.

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Best thing not even that. Best thing the DIMMs come in 512GB modules.

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So you can have some absurd buffer sizes, shit like 10TB in a single system.

reef patrol
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Neat

astral haven
young pecan
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Says they work with RAMdisks and the such, not with traditional storage.

astral haven
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thats what the nvdimms are for

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you store your shiz in the nvdimm

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but you cant boot from it yet

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not natively

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ofc you can vm it

young pecan
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Hmm. Probably not rolled out into actual deployment then.

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Annoying.

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Ngl I'd love NVDIMMs, those would just be fun to use.

astral haven
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ive got one

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but i dont have any systems that support it

young pecan
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And no pics in the chat? Brutal.

astral haven
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i didnt?

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hunh

young pecan
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Not that I've ever seen.

astral haven
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far too lazy to actually get up and take a proper picture

young pecan
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Nifty looking DIMM.

old marlin
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Had some proxmox storage servers crash

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With the hosts still on

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All they need is the ram state

old marlin
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we were waiting on permission to putting an extension cord through the hallway so we could at least use the machines in the other half of the building

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all of them that is

astral haven
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I'm sure the fire marshal would have loved that

old marlin
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obv

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peepoShrug was in the much less risky part of the building

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the electricity problem was a mains switch

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for the whole part of the building

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which has 5 or 6 galvanizing machines in it

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and very few people in the offices

halcyon moss
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i hate brackets :p

wheat plume
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ah yes

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80 x 80 screen res

pale sigil
wheat plume
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lol

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true

pale sigil
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@wheat plume

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pain

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pure pain

wheat plume
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the voice crack when he shouts "Can anyone hear me"

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7:40

pale sigil
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xD

wheat plume
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Just got back from tech store to see if they had any 512GB SD cards

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and I asked one of the assistants if they had any in that size

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and he looked at me strange and asked me to repeat 512GB a few times

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and said that SD cards that size dont exist

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BRUH....

ashen spindle
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why not just look online in the first place

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and if its a store that doesnt have their things online I doubt it'd end up cheaper than online purchase anyway

wheat plume
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Thats what im doing now

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I want maybe one 512GB and one 256GB SD card for the Deck
512GB for steam games
256GB for emulation roms

Hopefully by the time I get my Deck, Batocera will be available on the Deck to boot off USB :D Which would make it so nice to use

ashen spindle
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@fickle ore based on reports the qdoled might need some burn in and then the green tint on fonts is gone? so better watch out for reviews after some time

fickle ore
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@ashen spindle promising

wheat plume
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uh..

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youtube???

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excuse me???

reef patrol
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Looks like Australia isn't the only thing that isn't real.

wheat plume
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:')

wheat plume
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its been over a month since his last video...

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and THIS is what he does? XD

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lol yes

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HAH LOL

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pretty looking

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but useless overall

ashen spindle
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NVIDIA H100, company’s first 5nm GPU Tomorrow NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang will announce the new H100 series of products for data-centers.  The render that leaks just hours ahead of the announcement confirms some key details on NVIDIA’s Hopper GH100 GPU. Such as the fact that GH100 is a large monolithic GPU with six Graphics Processing […]

solar hinge
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Almost done, soon gpu block for a 3090,custom cables and putting the case covers on

rancid roost
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Yes

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But will your GPU have copper thermal pads

young pecan
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Is there any benefit to that whatsoever over just using a good heatsink with good thermal pads? Adding copper thermal pads in would still end up bottlenecking at the paste.

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Lmfao

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Can’t you do shortwave on a phone with a dongle or something?

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Tbh I can absolutely see people buying them in a bad situation.

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Just that the BBC has the tech leftover for this to just work makes me happier than I know how to say.

reef patrol
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Most radios can access it still. And it lets people grab some just in case.

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London calling...

astral haven
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for shortwave think ham radio but even lower frequency and longer distance

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you need antennas on the order of ham radios

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sdr can super easily pick it up so yes you can pick it up with a dongle and a coathanger but its a specialty dongle

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what you probably are thinking of is fm where the antenna is your headphone wire and the frequency is what you normally see on a radio
88.5 101.5 etc
thats in mhz
shortwave is 2-20 mhz normally

reef patrol
astral haven
#

Phones can't am either

rancid roost
# young pecan I... what?

Apparently, even if u use a watercooler, copper pads and a lot of thermal paste will keep the VRAMS cooler than when u use thermal pads 🙂

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Thermal paste + copper shims seems to work better than thermal pads

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Its just a lot of work sanding them

reef patrol
#

But... they don't need to be cooler.

young pecan
#

Properly padded VRAM will operate 60 degrees C under their thermal limit.

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And you gain nothing from lowering it further.

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This really just seems like excessive for the sake of excessive.

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If you really demand better cooling, just do immersion cooling and call it a day.

ashen spindle
#

you can get basically the same anyway if you have good contact and just a thin layer between ram and cooler

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pad->copper->paste->cooler is a lot worse if you can just do paste/pad->cooler directly

young pecan
#

Yeee

#

There's a pretty good reason we try and avoid multiple layers of thermal paste in general.

ashen spindle
#

also adding conductive elements for barely a gain is always a risk

old marlin
#

isn't the shim only viable if you have a VERY large gap to bridge?

young pecan
#

Basically.

ashen spindle
#

pretty much

young pecan
#

In which case you have a shitty cooler anyway.

ashen spindle
#

so something that shouldn't be the case with a waterblock

young pecan
#

Shouldn't even be the case with most AIB coolers.

#

Actually when was the last time we had a really poorly designed cooler for a card high end enough to warrant really good cooling?

old marlin
#

yea like how many milimeters of a gap would you even need

young pecan
#

Iirc it was the 1080Ti Duke using a 1070 cooler.

old marlin
#

like 2-3?

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prob more?

old marlin
#

so release EVGA 1080

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would at least be the first one I can think of

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otherwise plenty on the AMD side from asus

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vega 64 strix for example

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you could improve a lot by replacing the VRM thermal pad

young pecan
#

All of the 5700XTs, actually.

old marlin
#

and 3080 FE ig with the VRMs on the back

young pecan
#

There's a handful that're good.

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Basically all of them need pad replacement.

old marlin
#

5700xt always runs stupid hot though

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from what I have seen

young pecan
#

Oh they do.

#

Mine like to average 92 degrees on the VRAM. REEEEEEE

ashen spindle
#

@fickle ore did you order a monitor? dogekek

solar hinge
old marlin
#

wait

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nvm

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an stupid

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was neither VRMs

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nor was it actual components on the back

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was the GDDR6X getting especially toasty, which you could improve upon by putting thermal pads on the back

ashen spindle
#

the 3090 has gddr6x on the back

reef patrol
#

Yeah only the 3090 has backside VRM. Even the 3080TI don't.

old marlin
#

yea was about heat transfer through the PCB

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brought them down from 104C to 96C

solar hinge
solar hinge
cursive summit
ashen spindle
#

well get ready for waves of malware if its true

cursive summit
#

Tech (r)evolution

reef patrol
crimson wigeon
#

Microwaves.. software update? What? What could possibly go wrong

cursive summit
crimson wigeon
#

Microwave as a service, have to pay a € for each microwaving

cursive summit
#

You know that's what capitalists actually want right? lul

crimson wigeon
#

How else are they gonna afford to bring us technological advancements?!

wheat plume
#

my gosh xd

ashen spindle
#

jensen showing of his new toy

cursive summit
#

The hell is this supposed to mean

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I mean I understand what it says, but why lul

#

I did nothing

crimson wigeon
#

I hate it. Support for my old card was dropped (in a time where you can't get new cards, GREAT IDEA!) on Windows so I have to use a modded driver, every now and then Windows silently replaces it and I have to reinstall it aaarghh

ashen spindle
#

yup nvidia really wants to own it all, cpu+gpu as one option now

crimson wigeon
#

Feels like I'm back in the omega (that's what it was called?) driver days though..

ashen spindle
#

jfc single switch that has more transistors than next gen gpus lol

chrome estuary
#

yeah but look at what it does.

wheat plume
#

....RIP Steam

#

WHY TF
IS THE MAC STUDIO DISPLAY POWER CABLE HARDWIRED?????

reef patrol
#

Cause Apple are morons.

ashen spindle
#

daily lana finding out about old news in the same channel dogekek

wheat plume
ashen spindle
#

also not really hardwired as you can see linus can remove it

reef patrol
#

Well... "remove it"

wheat plume
#

you cant

ashen spindle
#

ok, unplug it and it works

reef patrol
#

LMG clip
CLIP
Video length: 20minutes

ashen spindle
#

if you get into the habit of finish a video before commenting what happens in it, that would make things easier

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they unplug it, luke notices the monitor bends a lot but it works

reef patrol
#

I would argue that if a power cord requires two grown men holding and pulling on a cable, it is by definition not "safe" 😄

wheat plume
#

^ that

ashen spindle
#

oh for sure, its bad and makes ewaste etc.

reef patrol
#

I clearly felt the frame flexing when you did that just now

ashen spindle
#

but we already had that discussion with that clip in this channel and hardwired means hardwired, not "hard to remove"

wheat plume
#

if you need to potentially bend the monitor, thats 3 grand to purchase.... jsut to remove the power cable....

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yeah

#

no thanks

reef patrol
#

The cord is "removable" in the same way that I can technically pull up a RAM socket and put it back.

wheat plume
#

yeah

#

you will most likely damage something

cursive summit
#

Apple’s M1 Ultra SoC marks the first multi-die solution from the company with some pretty wild claims at the time of launch. According to official slides, the M1 Mac Ultra is nearly on par with AMD’s 64 core Threadripper on the CPU side and NVIDIA’s RTX 3090 on the GPU side. Only, it’s not. Not …

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Need heavy optimizations to be anywhere near the power they claim lul

ashen spindle
#

you can by definition not pull a hardwired plug and put it back in, this cable is garbage and having risks, but that doesnt mean it's a destructive action to remove it

reef patrol
#

Given the clip... it is definitely not "safe". You can damage the monitor.

#

So... I disagree with that opinion 😄

wheat plume
#

seems Quin didnt watch till the end either

ashen spindle
#

so I guess linus is a magician now?

#

they literally talk about how it can be removed albeit at a risk

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yes its shit design and all

#

doesn't change that you obviously "can" remove it without breaking something 100%

reef patrol
#

You clearly didn't watch the clip with sound. Luke literally pointed out that it was flexing the frame - meaning excessive pressure required.

They might as well apply loctite into the socket when the cord is inserted - Cause that shit ain't technician level removable, let alone end user. And that's shit.

wheat plume
#

Im sure enough flexes like that will cause failure

ashen spindle
old marlin
#

There is a tool for removing it btw

#

Doesn't make it any less stupid

ashen spindle
wheat plume
#

.....

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OMFH

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:')

#

IM CRYING LOL

#

WHY IT LOOK LIKE SHITTY STOCK PHOTO???

#

is this a Keychron board?

cursive summit
#

Doesn't compare to Threadripper

#

Costs the same if not more than threadripper lul

pale sigil
#

M1 LuLtra

ashen spindle
#

if the graphs are made so ambiguous then it's absolutely fair game to compare it in tasks its not made for

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the gpu in the m1 is not made for gaming, but if they just put empty lines on it and pretend it beats a 3090 at 200W less

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then they are just asking for it

#

doesnt matter what the test is, if you show it like this you get dunked on by people

#

it's great hardware but if they pretend it is more than it is, no, they just show shit marketing slides

#

its the same there

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has been for years

#

here your majesty have you correct comparison

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it's against a 12900k

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yes it loses to a zen2 desktop cpu in rendering

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zen2 means it lost to the 3950 not just the 5950

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because there are tasks it's simply not made for but with a slide like this they act like it

#

oh it does, and so do other random computer parts from 5 years ago

#

general purpose means it's good all around and has no specialty, so its easy to beat it in one area

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difference is nobody would attempt to present my routers chip as a thing beating the 5950x just because it has some network thing no desktop cpu has

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but thats how apple did marketing for the last 3 years at least

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and just like the cable is shit even if you can remove it, these graphs and claims are shit even if the hardware is good overall

wheat plume
#

I never thought Id ever say this ever...

Once I get the Gnome 42 update to my desktop, I may use the default gnome desktop theme cause it actually looks really good

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🤢 the old theme

wheat plume
#

Gnome desktop is bringing back system tray icons for running apps in the background

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but in a really shit way....

#

They are inside a menu inside the system menu popover

#

TWO MENUS DEEP .-. WHY

wheat plume
#

yeah

#

but its now 3 clicks and a lot of mouse movement to get to something that should be directly on the panel itself

crimson wigeon
#

Getting rid of the dedicated notifications popup then I see

wheat plume
#

huh?

crimson wigeon
#

Clicking the time and date in the middle of the bar is for notifications, but with that change you're showing it would be redundant and thus likely removed knowing Gnome devs

wheat plume
#

ooohhh

#

wait

#

it only shows calender now?? hmm

misty saffron
wheat plume
#

lol

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tbf

#

they did pretty good with the new GTK4 theme

pale sigil
#

open source in general

#

i love open source but its rare to expect quality

astral haven
#

It's foolish to expect quality

old marlin
#

wait so

#

the mac studio has an m.2 slot for storage

#

but not for an SSD

#

but JUST NAND flash modules

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without a controller

young pecan
#

Wait what even?

young pecan
#

And why?

old marlin
#

yea not like you can change it in the first place

young pecan
#

No I mean can you even buy controllerless M.2 formfactor SSDs?

old marlin
#

no

young pecan
#

Bruh.

old marlin
#

ikik tomshardware

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seen it on a german site

#

but assumed you can read this a lot better

young pecan
#

That is the cringiest shit I've seen from apple in a good long while.

#

I assume he had some scathing things to say.

pale sigil
#

Wait

#

Picard season 2 is out???

#

Omg

halcyon moss
#

on amazon only right?

crimson wigeon
#

Yeah it's a prime original

halcyon moss
#

it wasnt at first 🙂

#

anyway.. that means i'll have to find alternative methods of watching it

#

because fuck amazon

crimson wigeon
#

Wait what hasn't it always been

halcyon moss
#

no, it was also on netflix

#

that how i watched it.

crimson wigeon
#

Intradesting

pale sigil
pale sigil
#

@ashen spindle

#

AW3423DW sold for 800 quid a few days ago

ashen spindle
#

if with a few days ago you mean yesterday 8am, yes, that was the release date

#

but it didnt really sell that low unless you count a 20% student discount or smth like that

ashen spindle
#

but if they do it the same as in the US, they will cancel some of the orders that used a student discount without being one dogekek

ashen spindle
pale sigil
#

I wish i could get it

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xD

#

aye

ashen spindle
#

@fickle ore if you didn't grab one, they are back in stock for who knows how long dogekek

fickle ore
#

@ashen spindle Did they become for sale?

ashen spindle
#

ya

fickle ore
#

did u buy one?

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Cant find in finland

#

Cant find any shop to sell it lol

ashen spindle
#

dell not selling it directly in finnnland?

#

rip

fickle ore
#

this page is from 1850

ashen spindle
#

lololol

fickle ore
#

link germany shjop

ashen spindle
fickle ore
#

yeah we dont have this

#

kekw

ashen spindle
#

call the support and see if they sell it via phone kek

ashen spindle
#

hahahaha

fickle ore
#

what the fuck is that shit

#

not even search lmao

#

Yeah not buying until retailers have it seems

#

shit price tho

ashen spindle
#

if you give them a call maybe they give you a discount too

fickle ore
#

what is this crap

ashen spindle
#

? its the price that was expected

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just with pretending that they already reduced it

#

which I thought to be illegal in the EU but I guess not lol

#

but thats the price that they mentioned last month or so

fickle ore
#

Yeah just hoped it'd be like 1100€ max when it was like 1k$

ashen spindle
#

nah the US pricing was the same

fickle ore
#

Lol

#

Buy it

ashen spindle
#

oh I snapped one yesterday on release

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

nope, gotta convert it DIY, electroboom style 😛

reef patrol
old marlin
#

had to do that with my amp

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since it takes 15VAC

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replacement one buzzes and had a different plug

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current headphones don't need an extra amp tho

fickle ore
#

@ashen spindle I got lots of requests for youy whne u get the monitor

ashen spindle
#

sure haha

#

I dont have any special tools just so you know, no colorimeter or anything

fickle ore
#

@ashen spindle for example how good is playing with 720p, can the monitor push higher than 175hz at 720p, etc

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any quirks with integer scaling and so on

fickle ore
#

We know. No need to state the obvious.

ashen spindle
#

there are differences between the manual and the real product though

fickle ore
#

Yeah and nobody can know how far a monitor will OC past it's rating, even with lower resos

ashen spindle
#

since it mostly depends on the panel, yes

fickle ore
#

Pantheon at 175hz Overwatch 300 hz 😄

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I dont need to

ashen spindle
#

well I wont test trash like OW for you dogekek

fickle ore
#

U dont need to, I'll trust whatever shit the monitor reports @ OS level

astral haven
#

This

ashen spindle
#

not saying you should, but if it doesnt work at all that would be a clear result

#

if it does someone will probably find a cam and try it

astral haven
#

My monitor takes 280hz but frame skips above 242hz

fickle ore
#

I'll trust Dell OLED

ashen spindle
#

my old one only reaches 100 via OC so even stock will be better already

astral haven
fickle ore
#

I dont know? Quintosh hasnt received yet to test

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if I knew I wouldnt have asked him

astral haven
fickle ore
#

wat

ashen spindle
#

I can do whatever my iphone6s can show, nothing more dogekek

astral haven
#

Put it in pro mode and set the shutter to 1/4 or lower

fickle ore
#

yours came already?

ashen spindle
#

no

#

also I dont think the 6s has a pro mode?

astral haven
#

Oh right
Apple

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Set exposure compensation to the max then

ashen spindle
#

mh sure, totally have that feature dogekek

astral haven
#

You definetly do

ashen spindle
astral haven
#

Touch and hold on an item then drag the light symbol up

ashen spindle
#

oh neat

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well lets hope I even get it first

#

so far people with june ETA got it and others that ordered earlier are waiting beyond the ETA they got

astral haven
#

This the Alienware qdoled?

ashen spindle
#

ye

fickle ore
#

u prob got it, they got eu warez

astral haven
#

Good luck
Hope it's not like the other Samsung oleds

empty wren
#

I thought Samsung made quantum dot big format displays not oled

ashen spindle
#

errr

empty wren
#

Okay there is the Wall but that is different

ashen spindle
#

the QD in QD oled stands for quantum dot

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think you are mixing something up

empty wren
#

I know what quantum dot, and as far as I know Samsung made qd lcd tvs

astral haven
#

Qdoled is new tech
No prior incarnations of it

fickle ore
#

I'mma get it from blackfriday in 2024

ashen spindle
#

I mean they obviously make multiple panel techs, would be quite the bad business model to only do one

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also samsung display is a separate company from the samsung that makes the end product

pale sigil
ashen spindle
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jfc

#

sanitize your links man

pale sigil
#

Idk what you're on about

empty wren
#

Edited

empty wren
astral haven
ashen spindle
#

yes they plan to stop making LCDs this year iirc

astral haven
#

No
But no more color lcds
Quantum dot lcds only

ashen spindle
#

ah, sounds right, I just remembered something stopping this year

#

but what I mean with that was more in line of they will not hold onto one thing forever, if they find something better they'll switch

astral haven
#

I mean they didn't specify so you could be right

#

Well

#

Quantum dots is a pretty big category

ashen spindle
#

ah they delayed the LCD exit to push through pandemic demand but it seems like almost all is switched to OLED and one factory it's not known yet but people expect that to also make OLED

fickle ore
#

about damn time

#

became one of the worlds biggest companies selling crab panels

astral haven
#

Samsung's lcds are pretty pog

wheat plume
#

crab panels

#

They only play Crab Rave

ashen spindle
#

im just glad I can finally (hopefully) get a decent upgrade that is not minisucle for more than my old screen lmao

#

the fact it took like 6 years or so shows how slow monitor panels evolve lol

fair gull
#

took the step to just make it public and just redacted the images and config since well cant really publish those without ok from employer

ashen spindle
#

nice

pale sigil
#

Pics?

ashen spindle
#

sounds nice but I also really want ultrawide and ultrawide 4k will take another two gpu generations before that is useable lmfao

astral haven
#

Ultra wide is overrated

ashen spindle
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯ had it for years and I much prefer it

#

and now that even the one single game I had issue with fixed the UW problem, I just really prefer the wider view

ashen spindle
#

time for some fun

pale sigil
#

@ashen spindle keep us updated k

ashen spindle
#

no 🙂

#

get your own GDC ticket dogekek

pale sigil
#

🖕

ashen spindle
#

the FSR2 talk will be public in a few days you can watch that then

#

but I can give you another screenshot of something else

empty wren
#

Capricorn tubing it would seem has better tighter all round tolerances than whatever creality uses. Also line color illusion.

crimson wigeon
ashen spindle
#

based on what they showed in the talk, as long as it's included well that should actually be not too bad

#

though just likes nvidias upscale from 540p to 4k, I imagine it to work fine in demos but not quite there yet in most games

astral haven
#

Nvidias 540p to 4k looks pretty crunchy

#

1080p to 8k looks fine 1:1 but 540p is 1/4 the pixels of 1080p

ashen spindle
#

most promising thing so far is amd talking specifically about ghosting and how to best prevent it and such

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since that's the biggest issues with dlss still

astral haven
#

If fx 2.0 looks even remotely good 360p to 1080p I will eat a sock

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

still is in some cases like CP

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at least from footage I can easily notice it during car movement there

crimson wigeon
#

Oh are they finally gonna fix TAA so it doesn't have that awful ghosting that would be cool and game devs better implement it ASAP if so

ashen spindle
#

idk if it's going to be fixed but a future step is also offering FSR's TAA as a standalone or at least as something that works without upscaling so we have an open source version that might become better over time

crimson wigeon
#

Can't you just set it to do 1x scaling pepeg

ashen spindle
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯ missed the Q&A section so I cant ask

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

ik and I think it was HUB who did that and compared it, was looking better but at some points you could still see it even without looking hard for it

astral haven
#

Happens

#

Nv is still working on it
They have some dev versions available that they are testing out

ashen spindle
#

oh I definitely think it will be a lot better in not too long

#

still having a good TAA option directly in FSR that can be updated via open source should also help so much more in general which is nice to see

#

so many bad TAA implementations flying around..

astral haven
#

Eh
Is fsr the taa implementation or does it get stapled on top of the existing taa like dlss does?

ashen spindle
#

it has its own

astral haven
#

Hunh

#

Do they have (or plan on) unreal, cryengine, unity plugins?

ashen spindle
#

unreal plugin was announced, unity idk but I would assume just like with FSR1 they will also add it

astral haven
#

Kewlio

ashen spindle
#

anyway time for another fun 30 minutes

#

oh also one of the guys who wrote FSR1 works at unity now so I would be surprised if they are not already working on adding FSR2

astral haven
#

Figures

#

Is pretty neat
Hopefully the competition improves the quality of both implementations

#

Still want my frame forward projection upscaling

thick elk
#

Looking at the data AMD provides it seems pretty promising only thing that seems somewhat of a questionmark is it's performance, 1.1ms on a 6800xt to upscale from 1440p to 4k seems quite a lot in a vacuum. I don't know how much the overhead of dlss is though.

ashen spindle
#

I mean that just means if you are at 60 fps go to like 57fps for an entire resolution step

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or from 240 to 200

thick elk
#

or from 1000fps to 500

ashen spindle
#

which is a lot less than regular higher resolution

#

dlss is about the same in most cases

thick elk
#

Outside of csgo or something it's a lot faster than running at native ress yes

pale sigil
thick elk
#

Then again csgo would be mostly cpu bound and thus pointless to use such a thing on

#

well not bound to resolution much being the better term

ashen spindle
#

bad argument since the DLSS issues come from dlss not the game

#

find another racing game that uses dlss and issues will mostly be the same

#

I just dont know any that I've seen

pale sigil
#

Racing game

#

Wot

ashen spindle
#

and yes in csgo's cases it wouldn't make sense since fsr and such are supposed to lower gpu load

#

read the sentence after the one you replied to

pale sigil
#

I mean it looks funky driving without dlss

ashen spindle
#

ok but looking funky isn't causing ghosting

thick elk
#

I also think that it being an open standard vs DLSS would allow studio's to fine tune things, for example make it less prone to ghosting at fast moving at the cost of static image quality.

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Assuming the studio will put in the effort which they probably won't.

ashen spindle
#

yes thats the other point, it's open and does not rely on the games TAA

#

so the unreal plugin could maybe have an option to use FSR's or UE5s TAA version

ashen spindle
#

also, my monitor is now saying it's going to be send out yesterday, so lets see how that works out dogekek

wheat plume
#

its interesting how win 11 can make EVERY app window have rounded corners on both the top and bottom corners

#

but Linux can only do it for first party apps and not any others

empty wren
#

That does not sound right

wheat plume
#

discord has all corners round on 11

#

but on Linux only the top two are round

#

the same for any non desktop first party app

empty wren
#

Actually I take it back Linux stands for fragmentation

wheat plume
#

oo

#

Only apps made for gnome desktop are going to use LibAdwaita

#

hmm

empty wren
#

There is this

wheat plume
#

🤔 read only repo

#

👀

#

this

#

is

#

so

#

damn

#

neat

astral haven
#

this sort of tech will be dailyable in a few years

#

folding glass isnt here yet tho

wheat plume
#

I doubt glass will ever be possible to fold

#

Unless it's so incredibly thin

astral haven
#

so if you have thin glass that can fold
and you just layer a bunch of it on top of each other
what stops it from folding

#

also yes all the samsung manufactured folding screens have a glass back but its on the back not the front

wheat plume
#

My favorite coding language

true quest
#

i'll take four

empty wren
empty wren
#

._.

#

I am sorry but animated lines do not take that much space

true quest
#

and the remaining 200 GB for garlic bread recipes

empty wren
#

So oddly specific

empty wren
true quest
#

we going 4K director's cut with deleted scenes

empty wren
#

I do not think I have heard of any 4k anime

true quest
#

and regular bread recipes for any unused space

empty wren
#

Especially when they move quickly

true quest
#

artist on twitter be making 50000x50000 resolution pictures for 720p iphone users lol

empty wren
#

Actually that makes sense so long as it is an actual real life/digital scene

#

Or if it is a large detailed drawn landscape

#

For that I can vouch no matter if it shown on a iphone

#

Actually scratch the iPhone has a good chance it will crash

true quest
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i want to be able to see every stain of grease on the wall in 16K

empty wren
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If you wanna do that load an ai upscaler probably will have little issue

true quest
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hmm might try that for some pics i have

empty wren
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Kinda funny how enchance image exist today

empty wren
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Otherwise you may not like what you will see after processing

true quest
empty wren
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I thought csi was videos

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With modern day hdr stitching

true quest
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that's what i said

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live feed

empty wren
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Hmm

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I see now

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Well probably all possible

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Grab a big sensor

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Use motion photos in tandem with video

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And then organize it all together

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Might have to make a custom sensor

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Unless super resolution stitching can happen almost before real time

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Long exposure research can help though

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If this could be done well

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Telephoto lens would be rather pointless unless immediate results are wanted

true quest
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the original enhance

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wonder if 3D recreation of a feed would be viable given several angles

empty wren
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Hahahahahahah

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That is asking for trouble

true quest
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it is

empty wren
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One angle will probably always be missing anyways

true quest
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borrow some feed from musk satellite

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😎

empty wren
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I meant the bottom

empty wren
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Why is there a data tower picture attached thonk

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Oh okay

astral haven
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p good example ngl

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those wires and struts gotta be hard to reproduce

empty wren
true quest
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gonna say where the wires not a giveaway lmao

astral haven
true quest
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the edges of the geometry as well

astral haven
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and in the middle you need to move the image sensor extremely precisely
the smaller the pixels of the sensor the more precisely you have to move it

empty wren
astral haven
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its still hard to do even if you have lots of images

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if you have even a few images which are off by pixels it will destroy your quality

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and theres no way to hand sort those images out so it has to be automatic

true quest
astral haven
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lol thats more than a few

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also thats a panorama error right?

empty wren
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Yes

astral haven
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yea not pixel shift

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what happened is the sky moved and the lamp followed

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for pixel shift you have to take the images within a second

empty wren
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Could be worse

astral haven
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heres sonys version

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but sonys version requires you to run it through a computer

empty wren
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Makes sense

astral haven
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only olympus runs it in camera

empty wren
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That reminds me

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When Mark was at Google

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They worked on using hand shaking

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To enchance image detail

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That way digital zoom was halfway as goodish as 2x telephoto lens on a smartphone sensor

astral haven
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yea on sony cameras you get a 2x digital zoom on all their cameras that looks the same as the 1x in terms of jpeg quality

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1.88 microns

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the red dot in the preview is the area visible on the left

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absolute insanity

empty wren
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Impressive but looks slightly blurry

astral haven
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its slightly blurry because only around 3mm are in true focus by my estimate

astral haven
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also remember each pixel here is 1/4 of a real pixel on the image sensor

solar hinge
young pecan
cursive summit
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Microsoft's confirmed to be hacked by same group that hacked Nvidia and Samsung

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People are starting to think these hacking profiles are far too big to be a homemade group and could be a state-funded hacker group

pale sigil
cursive summit
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Eh

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I ain't going to scroll 500 messages up lul

young pecan
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I mean I'm not really shocked by this.

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The right hacker groups can get absurdly paid.

cursive summit
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Hmm

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Never imagined I could 4K with my shitty 5700

young pecan
cursive summit
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Deal

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I'd rather have 2080Ti levels of gaming perf than mining perf lul

young pecan
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Fuck ikr.

cursive summit
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Hey you said it, better ship that beauty rn

pale sigil
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AMD > Intel

old marlin
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fanboying does not help anyone

pale sigil
old marlin
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in neither case

pale sigil
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These days get whatever you can 😂