🔌│tech

[empty wren]

You can add features with an application

[halcyon moss]

samsung has long updates these days though

[young pecan]

Clearly Android being bloated. Look at all that stuff that isn't assembly.

Reject languages, return to assembly and binary.

Just write your OS in binary with Notepad++, unparalleled speed.

[old marlin]

obv with different machine languages for each CPU as well

to make it as integrated as possible

[young pecan]

Fuck yes.

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-screaming-rant-gif-17904166

[fickle ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/t83czt/aw3423dw_has_arrived_spoiler_alertit_looks_amazing/

nomnom qd-oled goodness

ppl already receiving theirs

[ashen spindle]

how???

[fickle ore]

there's a buy link

[ashen spindle]

tf its supposed to release march 22 lol

[fickle ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/t7tjvk/alienware_aw3423dw_order_link/

ye idk, seems buyable, idk if its ships to eu tho

[ashen spindle]

im not that desperate to pay import tax on it lol

[fickle ore]

😉

I want lol

not sure if worth

[ashen spindle]

I mean same but I'm not paying 20% extra just to get it 2 week earlier lol

[fickle ore]

I can see it lasting 5 years though..

[pale sigil]

How dare they use destiny content from 8 months ago

Sheesh

[fickle ore]

ofc not

[pale sigil]

5 years

For such an investment

This is why I have avoided ultrawides for a long time

[ashen spindle]

youre not making any sense

the ultrawide has nothing to do with lifetime

[pale sigil]

Pricing

Ultrawide pricing

To be specific

[ashen spindle]

its the only QD oled on the market

[pale sigil]

Ik

But id rather wait personally

[ashen spindle]

4k monitor with this panel would be the same price more or less

neither pricing nor lifetime change here due to form

[pale sigil]

I meant like saying for it to last 5 years is insane for said investment, if j personally spent this much if he using it for as long as possible

[fickle ore]

yeah currently fast-ips ultrawide 34" is selling 1385€ at local shop

from alienware

same price..

[pale sigil]

My last monitor is 7 years old now and still used as my left

[ashen spindle]

is your 7 year old monitor oled?

also the 5 years is not an expected lifetime end or anything

[pale sigil]

No but the way its said

[old marlin]

the price is actually fine

for the featureset

[pale sigil]

Came across like they want a new monitor every 5 years

[old marlin]

I personally would not go back to ultrawide tho

[pale sigil]

And spending that much every 5 years is OK

[fickle ore]

I said, but if you believe me an authority that's fine. What I meant, lasting 5 years for me at such a shit hz 😉

[old marlin]

would just rather have a bigger 16:9 or 16:10 instead

[pale sigil]

I'm just saying me personally that baffles me xD

[ashen spindle]

its more of a, this is oled but wont break after 2 years like older models

[fickle ore]

1200€ is 120€ per month which is peanuts from even my bad salary

[old marlin]

do we have data on that

or just marketing claims

that is the thing imo

[pale sigil]

That's still a fuck ton of money for a monitor

[ashen spindle]

we have 3 year warranty included

[old marlin]

ah

true

[pale sigil]

If you intent to replace it

[fickle ore]

Ofcourse I intend to replace it

[old marlin]

buying into new tech is always expensive

just wait for 2 years if you want it cheaper

[pale sigil]

Oh ye it is

[ashen spindle]

you're kind of missing the part where it's the first and only of its panel type

[pale sigil]

But it evens out if you're investing for a much longer period

[fickle ore]

nothing lasts for ever, neither will I. I have a life expectancy of +-50 years

[ashen spindle]

for that it's pretty cheap

[old marlin]

QD-OLED seems like it could be the panel we were waiting for since CRTs went away

[pale sigil]

I don't think you get my point

And that's on me

[old marlin]

oh I do get it

[pale sigil]

I mean quin

[ashen spindle]

I mean if you start it with this, yes probably 😛

[fickle ore]

How much u paid for ur televeision Lanna?

[old marlin]

if you consider that it is barely more expensive than the previous alienware ultrawide it is not that expensive

[pale sigil]

I ain't lana

XD

[old marlin]

would have expected it to be like 1.8-1.9k tbh

[pale sigil]

Bitch Ive known you for years and you come and call me lana

😂

[old marlin]

just don't have multiple names in your name

smh

[pale sigil]

My TV cost me £350 and atm is 6 years old

4k ips

Not the best but it does the job

[ashen spindle]

well there you go, you compare "not the best" and "probably the best by a mile and first of its kind" in pricing lol

[fickle ore]

;D

[pale sigil]

No

OK

[old marlin]

just compare it to last years model

and it seems not that expensive

obv still a lot if you just compare it to "monitor"

[pale sigil]

Im more than excited for qdoled right

But what I'm saying

Is if I bought it

I'd be using that bad boy till it dies at that price

[young pecan]

Reject QDOLED, return to CRT.

[pale sigil]

And not replacing it in 5 years

XD

[old marlin]

now give me good CRTs

[ashen spindle]

I dont think he means to throw it away, if it still works there is something called selling it xD

[fickle ore]

@pale sigil but you bought nvidia 3090 right? U paid over 1k for what? The pixels dont look different, they just flow faster to your screen.

😛

[old marlin]

the product does not die the moment you decide you don't wanna use it anymore

[young pecan]

Ok, I'll charge 3 grand for the R&D cost. Might not hear from me for a while but trust me I'm working on it.

[ashen spindle]

Source: Trust me dude

[pale sigil]

3080

[young pecan]

Trust me, I'm a Nigerian Prince.

nods

[fickle ore]

But still!

[pale sigil]

And I didn't pay over 1000

Paid 830

[ashen spindle]

which is a grand in euro

[young pecan]

Ngl if you're buying a powerful GPU like a 3080 and refusing to upgrade your display I can only call that a smooth brain movement.

Not a wrinkle in sight.

Not even one.

[ashen spindle]

dont think that was his point either

[young pecan]

Thank fuck.

[ashen spindle]

I get his point, he just made no sense starting of by blaming it on UW form factor 😛

[fickle ore]

I've paid 400€ for 11 years of 144hz-280hz usage in total. I dare not calculate the hourly cost, because it might be negative and break the physics so I'll maybe get this NEW QD-OLED and have finally some fun after.. 15 years of waiting for CRT replacement

[pale sigil]

I do want it so bad though

That monitor

XD

[fickle ore]

Yessssssssssssssss

[old marlin]

if you want prices to go down wait for yield to go up

until it is viable to make products that aren't halo products

[ashen spindle]

yields are already pretty good

[young pecan]

Ngl I think displays are one of the technologies I don't mind paying out the ass for.

[ashen spindle]

thats why its the same price as older models basically

volume needs to go up

[young pecan]

I'm ok paying 4k for a display setup, gonna last fucking ages.

[fickle ore]

Display is indeed, probably the most important part of the whole setup

[young pecan]

Agreed.

[old marlin]

oh, thought they were dogshit atm

[ashen spindle]

Need to find where I read that but I think that’s the reason cost was similar to older gens

Ah I was wrong

Pretty bad yields actually lol

Which makes the price even more impressive

[fickle ore]

prob wana take oledshare% from LG

[ashen spindle]

Well Samsung are making it for TVs foremost

but samsung TV are not the first customers of it lmao

[old marlin]

which is surprising

usually TVs are first to get the cool new stuff

[ashen spindle]

well sony is making TVs with it

just that samsung TV isnt betting on the tech as much for now

both are samsung in name but they are 2 separate companies

but also a good thing to see, prices for TV and monitor are like the same as last gen

but tech is newer and yield is shit lol

[old marlin]

wonder if it stays the same

[ashen spindle]

so the price in the future can actually go down quite a bit

if yields can be better

[old marlin]

but I see no reason why they should be worried about early adopters

[ashen spindle]

well they only put more funds in the tech if there are enough adopters and in general enough interest

if people dont want it they might just stop the tech and try something else

thats how ~~mafia ~~ market works

[old marlin]

yeye obv

but I doubt it wouldn't get enough early adopters if they raised prices by 20%

at least in the monitor market

maybe not TVs ig

[ashen spindle]

ah nice, on rtings the alienware currently has the most votes for next review so they likely have a review for that in the near future

[pale sigil]

I can review it if you buy me one

[ashen spindle]

no you cant

[pale sigil]

Yes I can

"it looks good" - 10/10

See

:p

[ashen spindle]

thats rating it not reviewing it

[old marlin]

https://twitter.com/Razer/status/1499912600020213764

R Λ Z Ξ R (@Razer)

We’re offering our fans a sneak peek of an upcoming mouse at our RazerStores in Seattle, San Francisco, Las Vegas & London. From now till 13 March, drop by our stores to test it out & let us know what you think!

Approach any of our staff in stores to learn more. T&Cs apply. https://t.co/E74Sw1dh9K

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Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 1:00 AM

this is bs

[old marlin]

never been to one

would at least bring mouse and keeb tho

and prob IEMs + an apple dongle ig

[cursive summit]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-nvidia-geforce-gpu-prices-availability-improve-march-2022/

Imagine 35% over MSRP being "a new low"

Shit, reminds me of the time I could get an RX 580 8GB for 120$

[old marlin]

https://dirtypipe.cm4all.com/

there are no vulnerabilities in linux

[halcyon moss]

whoever says that is a fool

[young pecan]

Yee

Vulnerabilities in literally fucking everything.

The Switch has vulnerabilities and Nintendo tried it's goddamn hardest to lock it down as much as technically possible.

I mean fuck, there's this hyper private mini PC, right?

Move it? Data wipes.
Unscrew it? Data wipes.
Wrong password 3 times? Data wipes.
Not whitelisted USB device? Data wipes.
Foreign network? Won't connect to anything and forcing it wipes the data.
Etc.

People found a vulnerability by pouring liquid nitrogen onto the thing and dropping the NAND temp so much that they could read the binary data coming off the fucking pins before it wiped itself.

There is no end to the amount of bullshit somebody is willing to go through for the sake of finding vulnerabilities in shit. Especially if it's trying to be hardened against such problems.

[old marlin]

I mean

as soon as you got access to a server

do you really expect it to be safe in any way

[young pecan]

Basically, yeah.

If it's on the internet it's not safe, period.

If it's irl it's also not safe because some motherfucker will freeze the NAND and read the data off the pins anyway.

[old marlin]

lol

not like it would be needed

once you got hardware access you get everything anyways

[young pecan]

Safety is a goddamn illusion so people can sleep at night.

Nothing is secure in the end.

Put on one of these bad boys and see how many 'secure' buildings you can walk into by saying you have work with Jeremy in security.

[old marlin]

lol

[young pecan]

Bonus points for holding a fucking clipboard.

[old marlin]

just walk in

steal hardware dongles for software

and sell em on ebay

[young pecan]

And you thought closed LAN was any fucking safer? Not a goddamn chance on your life.

[old marlin]

the ultimate criminal act

[young pecan]

This bitch is an ethernet hub.

This is one scary fuck.

[old marlin]

na dude

vlans are totally safe

[young pecan]

That there hub does not need an IP address whatsoever, it does not need anything aside from standard RJ45.

Go into a high security building, pick the shitty locks on the server door, and splice that fuckface just in front of the router on the LAN side.

[old marlin]

I am glad that hubs are basically dead

[young pecan]

Then hook a raspi up to it and dump text into pastebin leak.

[old marlin]

but ye

[young pecan]

Congrats, you literally have remote controlled corporate espionage.

-_-

Hubs are terrifying.

No way to detect them, no way to protect against them, nothing.

[fair gull]

bUt ThErEs No ViRuSeS fOr LiNuX

[young pecan]

If you own a gigabit hub you can steal data from any company anywhere that isn't reliant on 10 gig network speed.

Why? Fuck you that's why.

[old marlin]

you would be surprised

just put it behind a fucking terrible dock

like they all are

and IT won't even be confused if it is working at 100mbps

[young pecan]

Ugh.

Doesn't help that most companies aren't on 10 gig.

Banks aren't even on 10 gig.

[old marlin]

I mean yea

why should they

[young pecan]

And those idiots still use COBOL.

[old marlin]

1 gig is MORE than enough

[young pecan]

Literally security holes everywhere.

[old marlin]

for most things

[young pecan]

Security swiss cheese.

[old marlin]

and upgrading clients is stupid expensive

[young pecan]

You know fully well that the router and switches should all be 10 gig.

[old marlin]

eh

[young pecan]

Even if the clients aren't.

[old marlin]

ehhhhh

not really

I got excuses

[young pecan]

If you have enough of them.

Lmao

[old marlin]

well ye

I mean in my case

medium size company

[young pecan]

Oh yeah ok fine lmao.

Medium sized shit is easy.

[old marlin]

and we fry switches regularly

because acidic air

[young pecan]

Why?

Ah.

[old marlin]

electroplating

big fun

PLC network switches die like every 2 years

[young pecan]

Huh.

Can't defend against it?

[old marlin]

in progress atm

we only recently got around to finally getting every server out of there

not our decision to put them there, company used to rely on a single external guy up until like 5 years ago

all our factory line servers used to be in the same rooms

quite a few of them died

[young pecan]

Bruh.

Shitty dude they were hiring then.

[old marlin]

ye

got way too much money

and "virtualisation bad" cause he earned a decent cut on every sale

[young pecan]

Bruh.

That...

C'mon.

Cringe.

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/03/attackers-can-force-amazon-echos-to-hack-themselves-with-self-issued-commands/

@misty saffron you have been replaced

[shadow minnow]

@pale sigil

[old marlin]

gesundheit

[pale sigil]

Time to unplug

Also

Fuck Samsung laptops

[old marlin]

?

why

[wheat plume]

hm>?

[old marlin]

I can see nothing unusual in that image

still confused

[wheat plume]

large battery damn!

[shadow minnow]

Blue is a nice color but bad color match

[wheat plume]

54Wh

[old marlin]

not mWh

would be tiny if it was

[wheat plume]

yteh xd

[shadow minnow]

That battery looks pretty small to me

[old marlin]

it is wide

but flat af

[wheat plume]

my laptop is 45Wh

and it lasts a good bit

54Wh damn!

[shadow minnow]

Hmm not as much

[old marlin]

for the thickness

XPS 15 is wider and thicker for example

but not as tall

that is 56Whr

[shadow minnow]

But it’s especially crazy how much space phone batteries can take up

[shadow minnow]

Hmm I think I have 100

[old marlin]

doubt it

[shadow minnow]

Or well

[old marlin]

they usually go up to 96

[shadow minnow]

99.99

[old marlin]

since you can't take much more on a plane

wtf kinda laptop do you have

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s not really mine and won’t stay for long, but M1 pro 16
Oh apparently 99.6, still close

[pale sigil]

@old marlin awful taking it apart

[old marlin]

a

[pale sigil]

Though me being to cauious doesn't help

I was so sad when I left my friends flat

https://pimax.com/product/vision-8k-plus/

This was starting me in the face

And I wanted to try it so bad

[old marlin]

lol

[pale sigil]

😭

[timid chasm]

tell your friends to put everything on hold so you can try it

[pale sigil]

Well it wasn't hers

[timid chasm]

but also what do they have that's capable of running it at it's specs

[pale sigil]

It was her flat mates

And if would be rude for. Me to help myself

[timid chasm]

I think it's rude to show that off and not let others try it out

[pale sigil]

Well her flat mate wasn't home yet 😭

[timid chasm]

2 4k screens though jesus

[pale sigil]

Aye

They have an i9/3090

They are film makers

Such a cool place

[timid chasm]

even so not gonna run it well at native* res

[pale sigil]

Also @neat oriole

[old marlin]

yo

nice

[pale sigil]

From America boiiii

[old marlin]

oh

even better

[pale sigil]

She brought them back for me

On her trip

[old marlin]

got any headphones that need so much power

[pale sigil]

:3

[shadow minnow]

Another apple sheep

[ashen spindle]

will run fine since VR has things like alternate rendering etc.

[pale sigil]

Only good apple product

[old marlin]

^

[pale sigil]

Yesnt

OK ipads are good too

[shadow minnow]

What about iPad?

[old marlin]

wdym

EU apple dong is fine too

[shadow minnow]

See now a second one

[pale sigil]

EU version is very quiet

[old marlin]

unless you wanna power some quite hard to run headphones

or listen at too high volumes

gotta take care of your ears

[shadow minnow]

Slowly joining the right side, side you were supposed to destroy

[pale sigil]

Nah

I don't but sometimes different audio levels are to low

[shadow minnow]

Now just watch tomorrow apple event

[pale sigil]

Eg plex I have to up the audio via my dac

[old marlin]

I mean I only run IEMs from mine nowadays

so I use like 10 windows volume

with a -10db EQ setting

[shadow minnow]

What about Apple Watch and Apple Music?

[neat oriole]

Dongle gang

[final flame]

if you're on android you can use uapp to change the hardware volume

[pale sigil]

Desktop :p

more I pushed it for EU the more distorted

My phone doesn't even support the dongle

[astral haven]

A 3090 runs dual 4k VR great
I run my headset at that res although it's not native

On windows it gets rather loud
Are you maybe running too high current headphones?

It is a good dac for windows
And while it can produce the voltage, it doesn't have the amperage

[timid chasm]

maybe my standards are higher

on some games sure it's fine but running a reverb g2 with a 3090 sometimes is less than optimal, imo

[astral haven]

What games?

I had no trouble in hla after fixing the garbage res scaling garbo

[astral haven]

Running an index at around 2kx2k per eye at 144hz
Very occasional reprojection

[old marlin]

@pale sigil btw, valve index still ships from the netherlands

[wheat plume]

i wanna try MS word in Bottles

can you not download the installer from Linux??

for Office

not showing up in the website

oh, you need to be on Windows.... TIME TO CHANGE MY USERAGENT!

[wheat plume]

is this StreamLabs OSB or the original one?

Im trying to see what the difference is between them

[ashen spindle]

https://obsproject.com/download

[wheat plume]

Im aware

I havent seen the streamlabs version but I know they stole OBS to base it on :/

[ashen spindle]

and then?

why do you want to compare them

[wheat plume]

to see what they changed

same thing but new UI theme

ffs

they didnt bother changing the process names

LOL

[ashen spindle]

why would they

its called streamlabs OBS and obs is fully open software

I know the problems and drama they had

but if they had done it right that would just look the same

good talk

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/C1iA2W9j6eU?t=131

TIL they also ripped off the Elgato Stream Deck

[ashen spindle]

welcome to the year 2020

[cursive summit]

Uhh

4000 series?

That's weird

[ashen spindle]

not really

not everything wants latest gen stuff

embedded leftovers, supply for low power stuff that only supports older gen etc.

[cursive summit]

Sounds more OEM than retail parts

[ashen spindle]

quite likely sure

just that they don bother too hard separate it so sometimes oem skus are also available in retail

[true quest]

well fuck me

[empty wren]

No thanks😳

[wheat plume]

......

OK WTF ;-;

[misty saffron]

lol

[astral haven]

yuppo
p much everyone who hasnt gotten already got bumped back

[misty saffron]

i would've expected the valve index kind of availability if i were you

[astral haven]

i got my index p much when i ordered it :/

i ordered oct 10 and received it the 14th
v different story with the deck

[wheat plume]

FUCKING KMS

At earliest, i will get the Deck 11 months after ordering it

And they already said they are working on the second version of the Deck, so maybe there will be a new one in 2023

AOP{~SJF I(OP)ASEJGiosdrhjruiostdhj[a'hjras

[astral haven]

They have been working on a new index for 3 years
I wouldn't worry about deck 2 coming 2023 or 4

[wheat plume]

itll probs be 2024

I hope

I want some time with this one before I got to buy the next model xd

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL 😍

The Valve GabeBoy

[reef tundra]

[wheat plume]

o.o

[fair gull]

isnt that the scene where woody or buzz is left hanging and they they have a better adventure than the other toy of the boy

[wheat plume]

not sure

havent seen the movie

[halcyon moss]

q2 for me too

[chrome estuary]

Damn it I want the deck

[halcyon moss]

i want a laptop with a amd 6000 series cpu

but they dont really exist yet 😦

[chrome estuary]

Yeah imo the fucking switch screen was god awful. I hated looking at it as it always felt muted and nasty

[shadow minnow]

Same with m2

[cursive summit]

The 2600 for cheaper?

Yeah very well aware of that one

But 4000 series iirc was never used for any real CPUs other than APUs

[halcyon moss]

in Javascript:
1️⃣ tenThousand = 10 * 1000
2️⃣ tenThousand = 10_000
3️⃣ tenThousand = 10000
vote

4️⃣ 1e4

[ashen spindle]

so the options are: pain, suffering or torment?

[halcyon moss]

dont foget confusion

[ashen spindle]

that is a given when you said javascript

[old marlin]

all of them are a given

it is javascript

[shadow minnow]

Hmm one can get so many lentiliek for a price of one GPU. Would say it’s more worth it but with lentilky recipe being replaced by clearly worse smarties… not really

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/03/linux-has-been-bitten-by-its-most-high-severity-vulnerability-in-years/

was already posted a day ago ro so but this is a nice writeup

[cursive summit]

https://www.wepc.com/news/amd-radeon-rdna2-refresh-release-date-rumor/

[crisp granite]

@shadow minnow

Apple event soon

[shadow minnow]

PogChamp

[crisp granite]

Already prepared to harass my mobile carrier for an iPhone SE of this year

[pale sigil]

@crisp granite me and bexin are gonna use wafch together on discord for the apple event if you wanna join

[cursive summit]

Hope they die in hellfire

[crisp granite]

I'll actually be in a lecture during it ;-;

Could I request you ping me for anything iPhone SE and M2?

[cursive summit]

Ping

It's sold out

Get fucked

[crisp granite]

Vexx

Fuck you <3

[cursive summit]

I love you too

Not Apple though

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume check your steam deck status :p

[ashen spindle]

gmorning cal

[pale sigil]

Oh

Lol

[hardy idol]

lol

[crisp granite]

...

[crisp granite]

ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER

[hardy idol]

okay so

need to make a sketch

it should measure the temperature with the sensor

display the Celsius on the top row of the display

and the fahrenheit on the bottom (should calculate itself)

and make a flowchart

of the sketch

[misty saffron]

i’m convinced dutch was invented by a german who didn’t know how to spell

[hardy idol]

shut up hollow

[pale sigil]

100%

And Welsh was invited by English peeps who couldn't be bothered to learn English

Same with Irish

[wheat plume]

After q3

[cursive summit]

Get triggered dutchie aka fake germoney

To be fair Dutchland has barely much to do with Germany in general, they've been doing bits for past few hundred years

What's the story behind them talking german?

(I am aware it's not really german but they are similar enough)

[ashen spindle]

omg

@fickle ore

[fickle ore]

Niice hype!

[ashen spindle]

yesterday was literally the last day on the poll and because its able to be bought already it went as the winner or we would've had to wait 2 months lol

[fickle ore]

where EU link!

Oh lmao

lucky af

[ashen spindle]

so we might be lucky and get th review around the launch time in europe

[fickle ore]

no 20% discount like US tho maybne

on dell premium

[ashen spindle]

not to keen on joining a scam service anyway

still no newer infos on launch date though

March 22 for UK if that didnt change so same for rest of europe I imagine

[fickle ore]

they prob already ran out of the monitors, didnt anticipate such hype xD

no EU launch hehe

[ashen spindle]

pretty sure they ship them via boat so it just took longer to get to us

cant wait to finally do my home office work on oled and see the dark depths of my code literally

[fickle ore]

Yeah that's gonna be sick but text might be iffy on that panel

[ashen spindle]

ehh, looks fine from what I saw of some of the reddit posts from people who got it

ofc not a great reliable source

[fickle ore]

hope it works well, but the pixels are laid in a triangle layout and there might be some red/green tint

[ashen spindle]

the people on the reddit couldnt seem to agree what the actual layout is lmao

but thats one of the reasons im waiting for a review

[fickle ore]

if you look at the edges

[ashen spindle]

ehhh yeah need to see an actual review that also looks at settings xD

[fickle ore]

ye

[ashen spindle]

that looks like it would be fine though generally

and since I use dark mode anyway im not worried about burn in heh

might have to look for an OLED theme in VS though

[fickle ore]

I told my gf she said u can spend that much on a monitor but not tv for us??????

XD

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip

[ashen spindle]

she'll understand when she looks at it

[fickle ore]

I dunno if perfect black makes dungeons in games even more darker or could you actually see more. I think it's the latter but we'll see

[ashen spindle]

depends, do you have an IPS now?

if so it will just make it look more accurate due to no IPS glow

[fickle ore]

fast-ips or ips

Yeah no ips glow and more contrast.. wuld be pog

[ashen spindle]

saw that

it was numbers

[astral haven]

You can see more

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/m3uf72rglyv0.png

[ashen spindle]

damn the internet is almost full

[crimson wigeon]

Well, crap.. what do we delete?!

[fair gull]

lana

then smth else

[pale sigil]

https://discord.gg/7xqYhhhs

[pale sigil]

@crisp granite SE

$4000 mac thingy

[ashen spindle]

I come back from a shower to see apple gpu comapred to a 5700xt

[crisp granite]

[reef tundra]

💶

[crisp granite]

Yep

That's gonna be 650 CAD well spent

[cursive summit]

\Well this is

Disappointing

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-to-cost-449-launches-april-20

It's still cheaper than 12900 but

Eh

https://videocardz.com/press-release/apple-announces-m1-ultra-chip-with-20-core-cpu-an-64-core-gpu

How tf is Apple catching up in desktop graphics within 3-4 years

Also

Popular discrete GPU performance data tested from Core i9-12900K with DDR5 memory and GeForce RTX 3060 Ti. Highest-end discrete GPU performance data tested from Core i9-12900K with DDR5 memory and GeForce RTX 3090. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of Mac Studio.

So they are now beating 3090 in certain suites

I mean, okay, but how

[ashen spindle]

selective benchmarks, advanced node

compare it to next gen gpus and it isnt looking that great anymore

but they almost singlehandedly fund tsmc's nodes so they have early access sorta

[cursive summit]

Yeah true, that rumoured 2.5x perf increase sounds great

[young pecan]

This is how you know you're dealing with a bullshit product.

2 big red flags, one of them is CGI graphics with pods/domes/futuretech, and the other one is graphs that don't have specific information.

[ashen spindle]

the product is great, they just have to explain it to sheeple and dont want to name competition in slides

so it makes it look a lot worse than it actually is due to bs marketing

[young pecan]

Like yeah ok.

[ashen spindle]

its impressive, just not the end of all other companies

[young pecan]

DGPU that runs 340W and somehow the Ultra is doing 200% power with 200W less power?

Bruh that is the most bullshit statement ever unless they're unironically using a fucking R9 Fury Nano and overclocking the fuck out of it.

[ashen spindle]

it takes the 3090, puts it outside is efficeny range and comparse the 8nm samsung product vs 5nm tsmc

and then selects best case benchmarks

[young pecan]

Yeee

Super disingenuous benchmarks and it says nothing at all.

So yeah, it runs well, but who even cares lmao.

Until they release real benchmark numbers it means nothing to anybody, nor should it.

[fair gull]

i mean tbf

that m1 ultra will suck less power than an i9 alone

if theres ever free arm socs with similar perf they might actually start revolutionizing big supercomputers

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGTC/status/1501236689586593792

NVIDIA GTC (@NVIDIAGTC)

Join NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang at the #GTC22 keynote to see how NVIDIA’s new computing platforms, robotics advances, and breakthroughs in virtual collaboration are transforming every industry. March 22 at 8:00 a.m. PST (4:00 p.m. CET). https://t.co/SzVvg13NKd https://t.co/5jM635VF1q

Twitter · Mar 8, 2022, 4:41 PM

slight chance we get some news there

[cursive summit]

More boredom?

[hardy idol]

Relative performance

So the chart might not be uhhh

[cursive summit]

I damn hope so

The less Apple has to offer, the less people will support that company

[hardy idol]

Yes it's efficient

But still

[cursive summit]

Not going to be as efficient as next gen

[hardy idol]

Apple charts are almost always not reliable

Always deceiving

[ashen spindle]

wrong mindset to have

unless you also dont want to support better gpu cpu tech in general

[cursive summit]

Yeah it's wrong, but I'd rather have them fail than succeed

[ashen spindle]

apple are the sole reason TSMC can expand and proceed as they do

[cursive summit]

Ehh yeah fair enough

Don't Apple have their own fabs though, or is their own process node trash?

[ashen spindle]

if apple would not have the money, N3 would be broken for much longer and we'd have 14nm all over again with 5nm for example

nah they cant afford fabs at bleeding edge lmfao

[cursive summit]

Well, shit

[ashen spindle]

yes

it would flat out ruin them

anyway, N3 was basically in a state like the original 10nm

but didn't matter because apple basically funded it anyway so all that happens is that his years chips have to stay on 5nm

and the repaired node is working next year

[wheat plume]

🤔 what now

[ashen spindle]

yes

[wheat plume]

does it make outlines on everything?

[ashen spindle]

how am I supposed to know what that even is

could be a game or OS menu

[wheat plume]

its a setting in the Omen Gaming HUB for the monitor

[ashen spindle]

google it or try it

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QVqjMVJL8I

[neat oriole]

Is it just me or is the new Apple studio monitor the most pointless “pro” thing ever

[old marlin]

wait

they use shared memory

for GPU and CPU

is it so hard to just slap on like 10gb of gddr5

[halcyon moss]

well it can have an advantage when you want lots of memory for the gu

[ashen spindle]

can be, but unlikely

if you really want a lot you'd most likely want hbm or at least lots of higher speed for just the gpu

lower bandwith high density is rarely a want

[halcyon moss]

yeah.. true

[neat oriole]

There are benefits, you’re not going to find a GPU on the market with 128gb of memory, or even 64 if you want to look at it as 2 conjoined GPUs. Also the ram is pretty fast, a little faster than the vram in a 10gb 3080

[old marlin]

you could still have it in two tiers

where it prefers it's own memory

but is able to also use your regular ram

970 did something similar

[ashen spindle]

its also dual gpu basically so we need to wait and see how that works if there are any issues

since there might be problems on software not made for the chip in mind

which could also be a reason why the bandwith seems so high, if it's split up between two and thus doubled, but only if used with the right code etc.

[neat oriole]

The 1080Ti w/ its GDDR5X only had a bandwidth of 484gbps compared to the 800 in the m1 ultra

[ashen spindle]

bc im not fully sold on how lpddr5 outperforms gddr6x

[neat oriole]

Idk, seems similar to ryzen‘s chiplet design

[ashen spindle]

yes but you can do a gpu like that

[neat oriole]

But instead of “infinity fabric” it’s whatever the fuck Apple’s marketing team came up with

Ultra fusion?

Or something

[ashen spindle]

cpus are "easy" because one thread takes a core so it doesnt matter if latency is higher for cross-thread things

gpus are parallel, that doesnt function if you do it the same way

[neat oriole]

I suppose

We’ll have to wait for independent reviews anyways

[ashen spindle]

ye

[neat oriole]

Apples benchmarks and graphs are always vague as fuck

As fast as a 3090 in industry standard tests, what tests?

[ashen spindle]

that test you know

that one

man, I think Lana would love working on those slides

[old marlin]

good part is

that there is always someone stupider around

https://event.asrock.com/2022/UMS/index.html

[ashen spindle]

yea im not even clicking a link from them lmfao

[old marlin]

do you need more info

fun part is that it gets even worse

[young pecan]

Fuck you and your sensibility, here at Apple we intentionally fuck our own designs.

Always remember the CPUs falling out of the macbooks so Apple in their infinite wisdom decided wedging a foam block between the CPU and frame was the way to go.

[old marlin]

Lol

[young pecan]

Proper 1940s British tank design methodology on display.

[misty saffron]

i’m pretty sure it was the gpus

[young pecan]

Either way that was a shitty design.

Lul

[old marlin]

was that not the touch disease thing

on the iphone 6

[fair gull]

in their infinite wisdom their macbook airs had a fan that was blowing at nothing and just creating airflow but not blowing on any heatpipes

[misty saffron]

no but also funny

dad had that on his 6 plus

had to give it a good smack for the touchscreen to work

[old marlin]

lol

what did they put in with the official fix

just a piece of rubber?

[old marlin]

wasn't it layed out in a way to drag air over the heatsink

which is still stupid

[fair gull]

sort of

afaik the chips burned out anyway

[old marlin]

nice

[misty saffron]

for some reason youtube shorts suggested to me are actually quite good now

is it just the algorithm realizing i don’t want tiktok “content” or are they just better

[old marlin]

lol

[crimson wigeon]

The algorithm knows

[pale sigil]

@misty saffron ye, most of mine are phone repair/actually interesting things

But every now and then I get shite

It used to be so bad

Like

Why

I take it all back

[misty saffron]

like the ones with barely any likes?

pretty sure it’s intended behavior

algorithm looking for an audience for a video

i’m all for it anyways, it’s nice you can find an audience on youtube just by making good content

[ashen spindle]

yt shorts are great for fun small things like chemistry experiments

https://www.youtube.com/c/NileRedShorts/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

[hardy idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGtX1SrTzw

i kinda need one now

also the reverse could be cool

really unnecessary and stupid

but a lekker switch mouse

@modest adder put a laser sensor and a hole in the Wooting Klein!

4 key analog mouse

[modest adder]

😄

[misty saffron]

that video is so incredibly painful to watch

genuinely don’t understand how the guy has 100k subs

[timid chasm]

yeah I made it ~33 seconds in before calling it quits

[cursive summit]

Hollow how come you haven't been disconnected from the rest of the world yet

Ain't the West propaganda spreading machines?

[young pecan]

53 seconds in before quitting, that is one hyper annoying YouTuber.

Has that same HHEEEY GUYS IT’S RICK KHHHHAACKIS HERE!! Energy that I’m sure @pale sigil cringes at.

[pale sigil]

mhm

[hardy idol]

Yeah but I was curious for the sound lol

[empty wren]

Take the L

[fair gull]

thats

fake

[misty saffron]

thank fuck

looks like the lg wing

and we know how that ended

[empty wren]

Not fake but based on a patent, yes the render is like fan fiction though

[cursive summit]

I mean

How fake is that?

Oh a rollable display

I really dig rollable displays ever since OPPO 2021 got cancelled

[chrome estuary]

I like my lg wing

[fair gull]

the concept for that samsung phone is useless

literally whats the advantage of that

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVUnt7xTp6Q @fickle ore

not really a review with any data but a first look at least

sounds good so far

[pale sigil]

Sigh

Mailspring and fuck off

multiple times its nuked itself

and i have 12 emails

[misty saffron]

https://tenor.com/bxk3g.gif

[fair gull]

3 whole megs of ram

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow https://www.businessinsider.com/the-thunderbolt-4-pro-versions-pricer-at-129-or-159-2022-3?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds&r=US&IR=T

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-chewing-eating-what-funny-animals-gif-9113748

[shadow minnow]

Hmm same price as thunderbolt 3

So ridiculous but nothing new

[misty saffron]

that is a normal price for a tb4 cable

[ashen spindle]

yeah but it explodes if you clean it with anything but the official apple cleaning cloth

also im pretty sure its about twice the price than a regular tb4 cable

an apples own costs are a lot lower than any other manufacturers

[misty saffron]

`Those looking for a longer cord are in luck — at a price: a 1.8-meter version costs $129, and a three-meter version soon to be available will go for $159.

`

[ashen spindle]

if they had a reasonable price I wouldn't even mind a premium for name+ quality since cables are often hard to judge

[misty saffron]

meh, i'd say it's reasonable

considering it's pretty much guaranteed to have no problems

[ashen spindle]

idk, costing quite a premium while its also cheaper for them to make?

thats a bit much

at least its not the dumb 1k metal stand

still cant believe people genuinely defended that

[young pecan]

What’s the max functional length for TB4?

[misty saffron]

the stand and the wheels aren't dumb

quite a smart pr stunt instead

[ashen spindle]

but someone defending the stand and saying its a good deal is dumb

[misty saffron]

to be fair

it's an amazing deal to apple

they paid a grand total of 0 dollars for advertising

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/292782/amd-asks-motherboard-makers-to-remove-overclocking-options-for-ryzen-7-5800x3d

I wonder why

[ashen spindle]

no point speculating till its out

if you can still UV then it'll be just fine

[misty saffron]

why would you manually overclock a ryzen cpu?

[ashen spindle]

since it then auto OCs based on temps and also what hollow said

if its removed for no reason, ye thats bad

but im not saying based on rumours that is 100% the reason why

[misty saffron]

the boost algorithms are much smarter than "you will now constantly run at 5ghz"

[ashen spindle]

still no reason to remove it if there is nothing else

[misty saffron]

yeah, because it's also underclocking options

[ashen spindle]

well that we dont really know yet

[misty saffron]

it would be dumb if they only allowed you to go below base clocks or voltage though

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/MLU8AwfIe8U

[ashen spindle]

oh btw

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-may-10-11th-vision-2022-conference

if you want to pay a grand to be in person

online part is free

or 1500 non early bird ticket lmfao

what a price for a marketing event

[fickle ore]

hmmmm

watching now

[shadow minnow]

It’s not. But monitor itself including stand arguably was at the time it was released

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle now im wondering if waiting for 2nd gen is better -_-

[ashen spindle]

nah I dont think so

sounds like most issue are calibrating issues or something if you really want to turn up brightness on SDR I guess

not something I'd want

[misty saffron]

the fuck

[fickle ore]

why is the SDR capped at 250 cd/m2?

[misty saffron]

you pay to go to an event where they'll actively try to sell you something?

[ashen spindle]

idk, waiting for proper review for that

[fickle ore]

I found it odd that the HDR mode can do 1000 nits (1000 cd/m2?) but SDR can't

Doh, whatever

[shadow minnow]

I think it’s normally that way but idk why.
May be color space actually

[fickle ore]

I got scared for a mo if my current shittier monitor can do 400+ cd/m2 but this OLED is only 250 bcuz I cant see crap on my current one

[shadow minnow]

But ngl I hate how windows handles hdr

Full screen non hdr apps it disables hdr

[misty saffron]

oled is typically dimmer

[shadow minnow]

Making display go black for few seconds every time I switch between apps

[shadow minnow]

True. Mini led quite nice compromise imo

I mean, unless you have lower end lcd

[fickle ore]

with w11?

[misty saffron]

or just wait for qd-oled

[shadow minnow]

Indeed

[fickle ore]

Ye Ive had the same issue, I want to keep it on

theres prob some regkey

[shadow minnow]

Idk why is it. And why windows doesn’t just pretend it’s hdr, and just translate SDR content into hdr

[misty saffron]

uhm

i thought that's a feature?

[shadow minnow]

And with 0.1mm activation point on Lekker and me not being used to windows shortcuts, often miss clicks cause screen to go blank so often it makes windows for these apps genuinely annoying

[fickle ore]

Yeah it fucks up in both ways aswell. I had a game that looked like crap on HDR, but windows was forcing the HDR on lmao. Couldnt get it off. Unplayable AF.

[shadow minnow]

Doesn’t work with Minecraft at least

[shadow minnow]

For me I have seen a game just translated into hdr from SDR, and it looked entirely same in SDR but that wasn’t windows.

Hmm strange it not work for Minecraft then

[misty saffron]

oh, was convinced it works everywhere

can't test since tv at home

[fickle ore]

Yeah this was me using -vulkan flag on a UE 4.0 game that is made by amateurs.. On w11 😛

[shadow minnow]

But c++ mc doesn’t

[fickle ore]

Forced HDR on and colours were.. wild..

[shadow minnow]

Tbf c++ mc is quite nice in many ways

But some bugs
My main reason for using Java is multiplayer and mods though

And with me usually playing on mac..

[misty saffron]

playing on mac

issue found

[shadow minnow]

Well don’t have a choice atm since traveling too often and need a laptop. So for now pc only has iGPU so even then performs worse when I have access to it.

Well it does work on macOS

But not on windows

Didn’t know it for long myself ngl

May not be hdr but non hdr apps don’t make macOS change display into SDR mode

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle this might be awfully wrong so take it with salt. It includes the 1/hz time

[ashen spindle]

that is a really annoying chart bc they dont list what hz the other screens are lol

[fickle ore]

yeah

[ashen spindle]

yea I think the takeaway from the first few rushed reviews is to wait for rtings/HUB lmao

[fickle ore]

rofl yea

[shadow minnow]

Yeah that chart isn’t the best
But yeah. At least if numbers for that monitor are true, 3ms isn’t that bad

[fickle ore]

if it's cable+processing delay I would be sad

but if its mainly the hz delay..

[shadow minnow]

I think it should be that tbh unless they take the definition differently

Maximum battery capacity is my biggest enemy on any device

My phone like year and a half old is at 85%

Notebook 97% but it’s way never

[misty saffron]

2.5 years

[ashen spindle]

that just means you use battery devices far too often instead of something with a direct power cord lol

[shadow minnow]

I mean true but with phone that’s kinda expected

Though 12 hours a day often may be too much

[misty saffron]

interestingly the raw capacity says 88

[shadow minnow]

Hmm

Where do you see that page btw?

[misty saffron]

in battery

[shadow minnow]

Hmm doesn’t show it to me

[misty saffron]

yes because you need a tweak

[shadow minnow]

Oh

Makes sense then

Ngl wish you could view battery for AirPods Pro too would probably be low

But I mean once used to use time to time MacBook Pro 2017 that got to a point where it would sometimes with high load turn off at like 60%
Wish apple slowed that device down
Was like 50% max capacity

[crisp granite]

:|

[misty saffron]

AASPs have diagnostic cables and software that can most likely tell you the battery health

so maybe if you come to them and ask nicely

[crisp granite]

oh also, that reminds me
I never actually figured out if the iPhone SE 3 uses lightning or USB-C

anyone know?

[misty saffron]

why is that a question?

[shadow minnow]

Pretty sure lightning though not entirely sure

[crisp granite]

because fuck you and your smetana

<3

[shadow minnow]

Smotana >>

[misty saffron]

WHO

[shadow minnow]

It’s smetana too in czech tbf

World health organization

[crimson wigeon]

They certainly are Don't abuse your powers

[crisp granite]

shhhhhhhhh

I don't abuse my powers

[misty saffron]

he’s not a mod

[crisp granite]

I almost never use them

[crisp granite]

and yes, also that

I am not a mod

[shadow minnow]

Not entirely tbf

[crisp granite]

I still follow those rules though

because I'm a nice guy

:)

[misty saffron]

calm and polite to everyone

doge

really now

[shadow minnow]

How when you don’t have access to channel where they are

[shadow minnow]

how

[crisp granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[misty saffron]

what

[shadow minnow]

Oh I see

Nvm

Not good at blurring

[misty saffron]

you can smell the jpeg now

[ashen spindle]

ohh you should've not posted that

now I now I can trigger the fuck out of a mod and point to rule #2

[shadow minnow]

[crisp granite]

SHUT THE FUCK UP QUIN

NO ONE ASKED

/s

love ya buddy

[ashen spindle]

@ erik

[shadow minnow]

[crisp granite]

besides

we only have two mods

[ashen spindle]

who has the true power now

[crisp granite]

Mansen and Pleasant

neither of them are here so I don't know why we're talking

[cursive summit]

Mansen.. is not mod

[shadow minnow]

I mean woothelp is kinda mods too

[crisp granite]

shhhhhhhh, Vexx

[cursive summit]

And hasn't been for a while now

[shadow minnow]

Yeah not anymore

[crisp granite]

Mansen is discord mod in our hearts

[misty saffron]

woothelp is mod

[shadow minnow]

He isn’t woothelp anymore

[cursive summit]

And Mansen isn't Woothelp

[ashen spindle]

who said I was talking about any current mod and am not waiting for some mod in training to be done and then execute my scheme

[misty saffron]

he is

[cursive summit]

Last I checked he was not

[shadow minnow]

When was I ever rude to you?

[misty saffron]

woothelp once woothelp forever

[cursive summit]

Nope

[shadow minnow]

I am sure you can find way more examples from already current mod cal

[cursive summit]

Family's a vanity role afaik

[misty saffron]

he still acts like woothelp

thus he is woothelp

[shadow minnow]

Tnt kinda since he is wootfam but no more power

[cursive summit]

That's just the duck being with negative IQ

[ashen spindle]

didn't say you were, said I will trigger someone to be that once they are mod

[misty saffron]

my iq is also negative

(unsigned)-1

😎

[cursive summit]

Typical russian then

[neat oriole]

You can use the back cameras for selfies, no more hole punches or notches

But then there’s a front hole punch so

[reef patrol]

👀

My duck senses are tingling. Whomsnst speaks

[fair gull]

so a fuck ton more money to potentially get rid of smth that i personally first thought would bother me but doesnt even on my s10. plus the fact if the hinge breaks like on all galaxy folds so far youre SOL

[neat oriole]

It is an over complicated way of doing it

There were a couple phones from a few years ago that just had a small display on the back

Like this from 2018

[old marlin]

somebody here ever downgraded a fresh Win 11 install (OEM one, not an upgrade etc) to Win 10?

cause while I have few problems with it at home I don't want it in production yet

[fair gull]

heya

yes i did

i so far always needed a new license tho

[old marlin]

rip

yea downgrading one rn

cause I know the user of it will complain about it a lot

for no real reason

[old marlin]

didn't need one

btw

[fair gull]

hm weird

idk why the hp ones dont work then

luckily hp is the only oem i sell that comes with w11 on some laptops

[old marlin]

is dell btw

bought yesterday

arrived today

[old marlin]

OH NO THEY FUCKING DID NOT

THEY HAVE INSTALLED 5 LANGUAGES OF OFFICE

AND 5 LANGUAGES OF ONENOTE

[ashen spindle]

hahahhaha

[old marlin]

you have to uninstall them one by one