#๐Ÿ”Œโ”‚tech

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reef tundra
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Ah a fellow copium overdose user

empty wren
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No I stayed in school drphilface

empty wren
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Yah nah not now in class

reef tundra
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pepesweat The glass has been shattered

empty wren
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Okay go to American idol

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Simon might love you

reef tundra
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Who is simon

crimson wigeon
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Someone who might love you

fair gull
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the question is... why does it need to look nice if its under a heat sink anyway

wheat plume
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SSDs with that capacity need heatsinks?

fair gull
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technically all nvmes could need heatsinks

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depends on the use

wheat plume
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๐Ÿค” Oh?

fair gull
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its not the size which heats em

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its the read/write usage

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they dont just get hot out of nowhere

wheat plume
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hmm, is there a way to check their temps?

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Under like gaming usage or heavy transfers?

fair gull
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any temp tool

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they have disk temps

ashen spindle
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oh no I can already see where this is going

wheat plume
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?

ashen spindle
wheat plume
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Is pressure sensitivity how laptop touchpads now you tapped to do a left click?

reef patrol
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Pressure sensitivity and/or electro...uh... something. Basically it can feel you're pressing it somewhere specific due to electrical currents that the fingers are interfering with. This is also why you often can't use gloves or mittens on touch screens.

ashen spindle
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just like phones

reef patrol
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Which is a godsend. Cause old touchscreens kind of forced you to push hard into them to sense pressure. And they were not very accurate or fast ๐Ÿ˜„

empty wren
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Then trim em downmm

arctic hedge
old marlin
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MONKERS do you use powerplay?

arctic hedge
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I do

old marlin
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uhh

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sure ig

arctic hedge
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the powerplay puck weights a bit more than the stock one

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so this printed bottom completely undoes that difference, and then some

old marlin
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yea but without it you get rid of the magnets etc as well

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if you go that agressive with weight reduction you might as well get free mousepad choice

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and like 8 less grams still

arctic hedge
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true, but it's light enough as is

old marlin
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uh

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ig

arctic hedge
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as for mouse pad I use a piece of leather as a pad

old marlin
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how much is it at

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oofie

arctic hedge
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it just has to be the same size as the base

old marlin
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yea

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so too small

arctic hedge
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rip

fair gull
reef patrol
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I'm talking way older.

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Palm pilots and all that jazz dogekek

fair gull
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same tech

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resistive touch still sucks compared to capacitive

halcyon moss
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unless youre wearing gloves :p

fair gull
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fair

chrome estuary
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Touch screens are magic

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Pure and simple

old marlin
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features

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is there even anything besides firefox and it's direct forks left on windows/linux that doesn't run chromium?

wheat plume
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Epiphany

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It can't handle YouTube though

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And there are no extensions for it other than built in ad and tracker blocking

old marlin
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it runs fucking webkit

wheat plume
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Xd

old marlin
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yea uhhh

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no

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how is webkit any better than chromium

wheat plume
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It's not Google!

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That's all I got

old marlin
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yea instead it is the one that only lives because it is enforced in parts of a certain ecosystem

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much better

wheat plume
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Yay
Google free!

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/s

old marlin
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yea it just breaks every so often

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which makes it useless for me

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stuff like youtube randomly not working for 3 days

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cause they broke it

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or it being insanely slow for an update

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windows

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I have swapped to and from firefox like 3 times in the last 5 years

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yea uhhh

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I rarely have more than 10 tabs open at once

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similar for me ig

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replace opera and brave with different firefox and chrome forks though

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and I ended up at regular ass chrome again

wheat plume
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Firefox handles YouTube better than chrome does xd
Except it doesn't like using my media keys to skip or go back a video in a playlist
So I sandboxed YouTube using Chrome and it works fine

old marlin
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pepeThonk my network was limited to 100mbps

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replugged my dock

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now reports as 1.2gbps

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still limits to 100mbps

wheat plume
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It tends to handle resuming a video after a wifi disconnect or slow down much better than chrome
In Chrome I need to usually refresh the page
In Firefox, I just got to rewind the video like 20 seconds or so and it'll start preloading like normal again

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The one at this house usually doesn't disconnect
But it can drop down to basically non existent speeds randomly like once or twice a week

fair gull
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so technerds

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have a z87-g43 from msi

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flashed the rom already with trusty desoldering, flashing and soldering back on the bios

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it did its reset routine going through a ton of post codes

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(read via a pci debug card)

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but now its stuck on 00 again

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my assumption would be dead cpu

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any other ideas?

ashen spindle
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does it start being stuck on 00?

fair gull
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yes

ashen spindle
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hm yea cpu sounds likely, hard to tell though

fair gull
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just surprised it got through a few codes checking kbd etc after a flash

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then did the turn off as if cmos was reset

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and after that it was back to only 00

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dont even have a second 1150 board

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frick

halcyon moss
wheat plume
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Ui DEsiGn is My PassIoN

shadow minnow
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Making Minecraft minigames work properly is my passion pepecry

shadow minnow
wheat plume
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`yeh maybe xd

wheat plume
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Its been so looonngg

reef tundra
crimson wigeon
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Hi all, Hope everyoneโ€™s doing well โ€“ 10 days and counting until launch day! We have some exciting news to share. If you watched our Take a look inside Steam Deck video (aka the โ€œplease donโ€™t do thisโ€ video), you may remember we said certain Steam Deck replacement parts would be available for purchase. Today, weโ€™re announcing that iFixit will be ...

reef tundra
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HOW DARE THEY NOT BE LIKE APPLE

wheat plume
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ooo, partnering with ifixit :D

reef tundra
wheat plume
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id be so scared about breaking the case's plastic clips when trying to pry it off

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In Valve's initial teardown, they said you need specific SSDs so they dont give out too much interference, but in these newer models, they envelop the SSD in a little wrapping to block interferance

sooooo maybe we can use any SSD of this size inside the Deck now?

reef tundra
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Just throw it into a vulcano

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~100% that it will not work

wheat plume
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Thats insane! My phone battery is almost the same capacity...

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5010mAh

final flame
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4000 mAh gang

reef tundra
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That is way more than your phone battery dogekek

wheat plume
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by like 300mAh

reef tundra
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Doesnt matter

wheat plume
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the power delivery is much higher in the Deck OFC

final flame
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me with my 23000 mAh battery bank smiles

reef tundra
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The battery itself carries more charge

wheat plume
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yeh

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duh

reef tundra
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P = U * I

wheat plume
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300mAh larger

reef tundra
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That just tells you it can push 5.313 Amperes for 1 hour

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At 7.7V

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Typical phone battery is only 3.6V

wheat plume
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true

reef tundra
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Meaning your phone batteries true capacity is 18Wh

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Less than half than the steam deck has

empty wren
empty wren
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

wheat plume
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It seems they are adding the new Notepad into stable releases of 11
I just got the new version

reef tundra
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If it aint vim it aint slim

wheat plume
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LOL

reef tundra
empty wren
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Wow looks exactly almost the same

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New

reef tundra
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"Brake test"

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He is driving a good 140km/h

empty wren
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Bruh no petg

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What is wrong with them

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Also no nylon

reef tundra
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Nylon is notoriusly hard to print with

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It really likes to absorb moisure from the air

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But if it can print ABS, it can print PETG

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Since PETG is a lot less demanding

empty wren
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This is the university printer

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And only materials they use

reef tundra
empty wren
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I cannot select any other ones

reef tundra
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Dont they have a sintering 3d printer?

empty wren
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This is what they wrote

reef tundra
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My university can print in nylon6,6

empty wren
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This one can too

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But

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They do not give such an option

reef tundra
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Filament based or powder?

empty wren
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No idea

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Spool bays

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So I assume filament

empty wren
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You bought a powder printer?

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I do have another question

reef tundra
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No, I dont have 100k lying around

empty wren
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Did you use your university printer for personal purposes

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Cuz I remember some photo with you and some spool

reef tundra
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I could, but I have my own printers

empty wren
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I do not have such an option

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Strange

reef tundra
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Two out of commission and one has to be built to this day

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I am a lazy one

empty wren
empty wren
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Or too lazy argument too

reef tundra
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"Entrepeneur"

empty wren
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Yeah I do not want to get into trouble

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Also lack of other materials sucks

reef tundra
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You see i am reinventing the wheel. So get out of my way, plebian

empty wren
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They list specifications

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But notkke you can use it

empty wren
reef tundra
empty wren
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Of deez nutz

reef tundra
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OF ROME. EXECUTE THIS HEATHEN

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๐Ÿ˜ฅ ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿ‘ˆ pls?

timid chasm
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SFX PSU >=750W recommendations?

ashen spindle
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seasonic focus/prime

reef tundra
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Sound Effects of a Power Supply Unit with greater or equivalent wattage of 750?

ashen spindle
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oh wait sfx is smaller ones right?

timid chasm
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yah

timid chasm
ashen spindle
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seasonix SGX is their sfx family iirc

reef tundra
timid chasm
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or just a reliable source for reviews I guess. I dunno if tier lists are still a thing or reliable or not anymore. I guess as long as it doesn't explode and kill a 3090 ๐Ÿ˜‚

timid chasm
ashen spindle
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I mean see what you can find from a brand like seasonic/corsair etc. that has gold rating or higher

reef tundra
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I got a bequiet. I think

ashen spindle
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dont think any of the failing psus had a rating of platinum yet

timid chasm
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impossible, you could never be quiet

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Why can't the affordable ones (cheap) be the good brands, heh

astral haven
astral haven
ashen spindle
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fair I guess that's something I just expected, if a plat psu is cheaper than gold rating it's probably a bad sign lol

timid chasm
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Well it's this or an ITX board and the price range for decent seem to be similar

reef tundra
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electrolytic capacitor just suck

astral haven
astral haven
reef tundra
astral haven
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It isn't possible to make an atx psu of over 700 watts without electrolytics

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It's theoretically possible with atx12vo

ashen spindle
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as for reviews, yeah not an easy topic, TPU has links to reviews but a lot of psu revies seem to be in russia or from russian speaking sites lol

astral haven
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Tom's hardware psu testing is gud (at least it was a year ago)
And gn and ltt are both working on their setups

ashen spindle
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igor still does some but not much last I checked

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(the old toms hardware DE people)

astral haven
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Igor's site has problematic English translations

ashen spindle
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TH is something I just cant trust with how they chose to publish articles lol

astral haven
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ just read the psu reviews

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Aris is gud

ashen spindle
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does he make english reviews outside of those that explode? dogekek

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forgot him ye

astral haven
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Aris is the toms hardware psu reviewer

ashen spindle
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oh

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nvm then I just knew about the youtube channel which is not toms lol

astral haven
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Anyways ignoring a reviewer because they work for a company with editors who make bad takes is really short sighted

ashen spindle
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well I didn't know they would work so independently tbh

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and for quite some time TH did just block me outright for using adblock so I couldn't check, but that's one me lol

timid chasm
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bequiet doesn't have sfx with enough wattage, sad face

astral haven
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Just be careful about sfx

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Can you fit sfx-l?

timid chasm
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I think maybe

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up to 130mm

astral haven
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There aren't many platforms, and the only problematic ones are the non l silverstones

ashen spindle
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but speaking of the LTT lab, I wonder if they can entice some big names like Jonny guru to come back from the corporate realm, could be nice for a quick headstart of the project

astral haven
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But yea my sf750 from Corsair ran a 9900k oc and 2080ti pretty happily

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It noped on the 3090 tho

timid chasm
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really?

astral haven
ashen spindle
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also if you think you might upgrade gpu next gen maybe, get a bigger one lol

astral haven
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There isn't much beyond 750 sadly

timid chasm
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by the time the 3090 needs to be upgraded I'll be able to buy whatever most likely right now I'm just trying to fit in a case for convenience

ashen spindle
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well sure they might still not be as good for payroll, but still solid income and better than their old options, so if someone of them won't mind it they might want to do it for personal reasons

astral haven
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Yes
The point is
Linus is spending 7 figures on the people
So it's gotta be existing industry folks

ashen spindle
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ahh misread that

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ye

timid chasm
astral haven
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The 9900k pulls 300w when ocd

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No problems stock

timid chasm
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what a nightmare, jesus

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my 3090 doesn't even pull that most of the time

astral haven
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It ran alot cooler than my 5950x :(

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Well yea

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The 9900k peaks at 300 like the 3090 peaks at 600

ashen spindle
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wonder if Ian will cave in and join the Lab too after a bit, Anandtech is in bit of a rough spot from publisher decisions and such

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now that Andrei is gone too

astral haven
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Saj

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Dunno if the lab needs Ian
Ian is more of a host

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Ltt would be better off with Ian as a writer or interviewer

ashen spindle
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yes that's what I had in mind

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he's really good at interviews and digging deep with questions

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and writes quite good which can be useful to translate data into an article for the mass

astral haven
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For labs, I really don't think that Linus wants to focus on molecular dynamics lmao

ashen spindle
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I mean, not like Ian is doing that at AT either lol

astral haven
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It's the only benchmark that at has and noone else does properly

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I suppose an argument could be made that the spec benchmarks cover that, but that's a stretch

ashen spindle
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well, sounds like it would give the lab more reach to the more industrial audiences with it then

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either way, excited to see what they come up with

astral haven
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Yea but that's not the point of labs

ashen spindle
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speaking of psus

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CoolerMaster announces its first PCIe Gen5 compatible power supplies ASUS Thor/Loki, MSI MPG/MEG, and now CoolerMaster V1100/V1300 Platinum are all to support the next-gen GPU power connector. The company revealed two power supplies designed SFX form factor for Mini-ITX builds. Both supplies are 80+ Platinum certified (92% efficiency) and will o...

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looks like we're now starting to see the actual first version with proper pcie5 specs

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even in SFX lol

astral haven
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Sure

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But I ain't upgrading my ax1600i

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Per rail current monitoring that works at least 30% of the time is sweet

ashen spindle
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yet

astral haven
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I ain't upgrading for a while

ashen spindle
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ik im just joking, even next gen is not going to be that bad lol

astral haven
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Tho actually my system with it's 6 pcie x8 slots can easily fit enough GPUs to trip ocp

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And I own enough highish power GPUs to do it

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aka a 3090

ashen spindle
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I cant wait for the amount of people that will realize with next gen that a cheap psu will break if you use high end cards lol

astral haven
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I really wish Nvidia would make up their mind about power limits
Either enforce it or don't
Don't half ass it like 30 series

ashen spindle
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nah that would be too logical

astral haven
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Make board partners put caps on the low side

ashen spindle
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thats another point, wonder if they will try to just completely bully board partners out of the market with new gens

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or if they will use them to be the scapegoat when prices go higher

astral haven
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I really never understood why Nvidia did board partners

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Like I'm happy EVGA exists
But those margins could be Nvidias???

timid chasm
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I won't complain about EVGA but don't know if I care about the rest. EVGA has done me right too many times with out of warranty RMAs lol

ashen spindle
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maybe they didnt want to deal with as much customer support for non HPC markets, or with distribution etc.

astral haven
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So why are they selling them now?

ashen spindle
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well for the most part they aren't lol

astral haven
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Well
They are now is the problem

ashen spindle
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not really, FE cards are sold in much lower amounts than aib cards

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because they cant raise FE card costs

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but they can make AiBs pay more

astral haven
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Not according to gpu-z

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The most common card models of at least the 3080 and 3090 were fe

ashen spindle
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based on the amounts that are in stores and how many milliseconds it takes for a monthly FE restock to be sold out I assumed it would be different

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I guess on the 3090 they already have much higher profit margins

astral haven
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Bots are a different story

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Sell out rate is not proportional to stock

ashen spindle
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given I can regularly get a piece of it with human inputs ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ but yeah fair point

astral haven
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It's proportional to how many more people are aware of the drop than there are cards available

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Anyways
Steam deck hype

ashen spindle
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steam deck hype indeed

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because that means deckard is close too COPIUM

astral haven
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Deckard less hype
Amd ain't got shit strong enough yet

ashen spindle
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I want to upgrade from my CV1 Rift and with deckard so close I really dont want an index now lol

astral haven
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Only strong enough socs that won't melt our faces off are the m1 pro and the Nvidia Orion
And neither of those are happening

ashen spindle
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not even for the standalone options, thats just nice addon I probably will never use

astral haven
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Meh just hack a quest

ashen spindle
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need something reliable so I can also use it for work lol

astral haven
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Get 2 quests
They are only $300

ashen spindle
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and then? are there any ฮผOled upgrade kits for it? lol

astral haven
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ OLED ain't ready for work yet

ashen spindle
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if playstation does it I'm certain others can too

astral haven
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You said work

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It's great for games

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Need lcd for work

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And oleds aren't bright enough for low persistence yet

ashen spindle
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well, part of work includes working on games lol

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I just want something high end to replace my rift with before meta login is forced lol

astral haven
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Working on games still requires static hud elements

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And the meta login isn't forced if you try hard enough

ashen spindle
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ehh, both projects I've touched so far had barely any static elements

astral haven
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The projects themselves don't
The debugging tools do

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Unless you are just testing
In which case, it's better to get the most common device

ashen spindle
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I don't work at a AAA studio where we'd actually use something like that kek

astral haven
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Oh geez

ashen spindle
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that would be something further down the list of things I think are missing that should be done lol

fair gull
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quin

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want an index?

ashen spindle
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nah Index is still using Cables, want a wireless HMD preferably,

reef tundra
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Which Steam Deck model is that one. The 512GB model advertises "Premium anti-glare etched glass" which might influence the results.

thick elk
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Owning a index, I personally really do not mind the cable, it gives me a sense of orientation, especially since my room is not large enough for room scale

reef tundra
thick elk
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also I doubt the anti glare coating influences these things

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or at least to a significant degree

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they just saved cost on the panel, I guess sourcing a good 720p panel can be quite difficult unless you custom order them which probably would not make sense at this point

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Nintendo is a large enough customer here to do just that but valve is not. Nor was Nintendo when they first launched the switch.

reef tundra
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Not sure what kind of technique the sensor is using. Nor if the technique used is able to mitigate the effects. Could be interesting to see if and by how much the difference is however thonk

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Also how noticeable is the difference practically. How much worse is 68% compared to 91.9%? Like barely noticeable or significantly different?

old marlin
reef tundra
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Chrome.. Enterprise..?

old marlin
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yea idk

reef tundra
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Enterprise level browsing time

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Wait..

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for mac?

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why would you replace macos for chrome os?

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on a mac?

old marlin
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yea idk

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lack of software support is usually not a problem on them

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and only upside to reg ass linux is easier domain stuff ig?

old marlin
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fuck adobe fuck pdfs

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terrible format

reef tundra
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Good take

old marlin
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terrible software

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should just die

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they want to go to digitally signing invoices in my company

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so we don't print and scan them like 3 times each

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but if a customer adds a digital signature to an invoice we have to print to pdf and reopen it to remove it

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now gl to me explaining that to the relevant people

reef patrol
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PDF - Stop trying to fucking edit me. The format.

old marlin
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yea I hate it

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oh also

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stamps are always on the top layer

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no matter what you do

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so you wanna add a signature above a stamp

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but not embedded in it?

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yea no

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not possible

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gg

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unless you use scripts to flatten the stamp into the pdf

fair gull
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the obvious solution is to use pdf24 for those tasks

old marlin
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the site looks like a meme

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ik ghostscript can do it

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but that decides to kill itself every now and then

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got replaced by some python script in my company

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which does a lot more than I need

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can it do that automatically?

fair gull
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pdf24 is literally free adobe acrobt pro but somewhat better and somewhat worse

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the editor isnt super feature rich

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but the tool itself can do loads

old marlin
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unusable for me

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they need to many of the individual tools to make it worthwhile

fair gull
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then invest in abby

thick elk
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PDF should be used as a view only format mostly.
PDF forms sure, they are actually reasonably supported now but that should be about it.

old marlin
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with acrobat you are unable to put a signature on an already signed document

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and you can't just delete the signature

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you gotta print it as a pdf

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and open it again

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at that point they might as well start printing it out and scanning it again like they used to

thick elk
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Maybe just have an image with a signature and use a PDF from with an image field, should work.

fair gull
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today in funny windows things

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theres a typo in german chkdsk help text

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and a mismatch between option and description where its offset by a line

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the win7 tos also had a typo at some point in german

thick elk
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Google also likes to use your ip for these things. Whenever I am on vacation it suddenly turns to french.

reef patrol
fair gull
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so today i checked stocks of 3080 cards

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suddenly

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hundreds available

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the frick happened

old marlin
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lol

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cheapest one rn

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went from 1589 to 1249

ashen spindle
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available yes, good price not so much

reef patrol
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Meh... no one reacted to my funneh ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

old marlin
fair gull
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mine are all 1grand without vat

ashen spindle
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so still like twice msrp

reef tundra
fair gull
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a 3080 is 600 msrp?

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wot

ashen spindle
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ya around that

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710 with VAT

fair gull
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msrp is already with vat

ashen spindle
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yes you said 1grand without vat

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so obv I compare it to non VAT price too

reef tundra
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That doesnt sound too high of a price to me... but the prices went wild last few years

pale sigil
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Almost banned you then

reef tundra
pale sigil
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I have to much ptsd from scam links @slow garnet

fair gull
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so msrp is 710

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not 600

reef tundra
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GPU prices are normalising?

fair gull
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ngl i thought the msrp of a 3080 woukd be around a grand

ashen spindle
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lol

pale sigil
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Did the msrp increase

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Swear it was 650

ashen spindle
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never was

fair gull
#

also not talking FE

#

but aib

ashen spindle
#

it increased by like 10โ‚ฌ or so recently

fair gull
ashen spindle
#

yes msrps were the same, OC models aside obviously

pale sigil
#

Oh right ye

fair gull
#

gigabyte rtx turbo rev2 3080 10g

#

cheapest card i can grt from distrib rn

#

for 1046.63 without vat

ashen spindle
#

oh also probably because they are phasing out 10gb models and the 12gb models are getting more stock

old marlin
#

it is 719โ‚ฌ rn

#

apparently

#

used to be 699

ashen spindle
#

nah never was, that was the USD price

fair gull
#

welp seems to be around most aib msrp

#

all around 1200-1300

#

so prices did do normalize

ashen spindle
#

10 or 12gb models?

fair gull
#

10

old marlin
#

cheapest 12 is 1389 atm

ashen spindle
#

well, I wouldn't call it normalized prices if it normalized above what it should be lol

fair gull
#

12gb models are listed for 1700 on nvidias site

old marlin
fair gull
#

id assume they list msrp

ashen spindle
#

mindfactory rn

#

no they just list last price of the model or smth like that

#

they dont list msrp of AiB cards

fair gull
#

so anyWay

#

3090ti when

ashen spindle
#

maybe never at this rate lol

fair gull
#

so ill never buy a new gpu

#

cool

ashen spindle
#

next gen comes end of year

fair gull
#

and is even more expensive hell ya

ashen spindle
#

you think the 90ti wouldnt be? lol

#

at least next gen you get something more for the money unlike with that card

fair gull
#

i only hoped that the ti has more vram

#

cause

#

compute wise im fine with my 2080ti

#

just

#

neural networks eat that vram like candy

#

sure i can go from 11 to 12gb

#

but thats like not much

ashen spindle
#

yeah find a AMD card with CUDA

#

ez

fair gull
#

tensorflow no like absence of tensor cores

#

also cuda ya

#

altho amd did make ai accelerator cards

#

unsure what framework i need to learn for those tho

old marlin
#

and how much do you wanna pay

fair gull
#

idc how much really

ashen spindle
fair gull
#

i just dont see a point in 3090 rn if ti is up in the air

#

and idk what 40series brings

old marlin
#

just expect that you don't get a 3090 ti

#

unless you pay like 4k+

ashen spindle
#

or intels oneAPI that works on all cards

old marlin
#

3090ti will be the paper launch of paper launches

#

if it even gets that far

ashen spindle
#

at this point 90ti might just be practice time for board partners to get next gen power budgets under control lol

fair gull
#

i also though of buying a second 2080ti and using that one rtx sli mode that combines vram

old marlin
#

but apparently even they have trouble finding shit out about it

fair gull
#

also im prepared to pay a good 4 or 5k on a really high end gpu for gaming and ai work

old marlin
#

please don't

ashen spindle
#

well on the good side, next gen high end might cos you that much so it wont be scalped as much OMEGALUL

old marlin
#

just get a 3090

#

or a 3080 ti

ashen spindle
#

nah for next gen, not the 90ti

old marlin
shadow minnow
#

4090 ti super

ashen spindle
#

I don't expect msrp of the 7900xt to be under 2k

fair gull
#

all depends on vram on next gen

ashen spindle
#

well, all eyes are on computex for announcements and probably some leaks before that

fair gull
#

depending on that ill just buy a 3090 and maybe even new cpu/mobo combo

wheat plume
ashen spindle
#

since when are twitter previews using the profile picture that large wtf

#

w/e, QD Oled screen coming march 22

ashen spindle
#

guess I've usually just linked tweets with other media content lol

#

global release btw, so not just uk but should release everywhere that day, wonder how quick the stock vanishes lol

wheat plume
#

Vanced has dislikes counter now!

#

Ooo...I hope they add this for all users

#

Cause it's for premium currently

true quest
#

they need to redo the layout in general

#

forcing thumbnails to take all the screen space was the first of many bothersome changes

#

yet streams and videos in their own tab do not make adequate use of screen space

chrome estuary
#

I use theater mode for that reason.

fair gull
#

that isnt desktop only

old marlin
#

why tf

#

can adobe use transparent stamps

#

but it can't make all stamps in a category transparent

cursive summit
#

Nice

#

Fuck off or fuck off

fair gull
#

hmmmm

true quest
halcyon moss
#

ohmy, first benchmarks of the ryzen 6000 mobile apu series is VERY promising, even beating a mobile nvidia 3060/3070

#

or.. is that because it has a dedicated gpu.. ๐Ÿค”

#

yes it is.. ahwell

old marlin
#

wait

#

EAC on linux just runs in proton

#

tf

crimson wigeon
#

Yes-ish, it runs the native EAC Linux client module, that's why developers have to specifically enable it

wheat plume
#

Devs must send an email to Epic to enable it on a per game basis

old marlin
#

ah

#

ok

#

I already think it is stupid

crimson wigeon
#

If using EOSEAC then theoretically this is all that needs to be done, with legacy EAC they have to add a magic file as well

old marlin
#

since it is easy af to bypass anticheats on linnux

#

but if it just runs in proton it is even stupider

#

I wonder how hard it is to separate EAC out

#

and make it run in WSL2

crimson wigeon
#

Oh yeah that's definitely something that has to be tested omegalul

old marlin
#

you'd probably need an additional translation layer

#

so it can speak to the game running in windows

#

while believeing it is in linux

crimson wigeon
#

Oh I thought you'd just do the Proton thing within WSL2

old marlin
#

you'd have to run the whole game in WSL2

crimson wigeon
#

Axeactly

old marlin
#

aka

#

you'd prob need 2 gpus

crimson wigeon
#

I thought it didn't need that

ashen spindle
#

with really good battery usage due to lower power stages

reef tundra
shadow minnow
#

Hmm Eve making glossy monitor too and how much hype there is around
Kinda annoying since when I was trying to push for it in community almost everyone said itโ€™s a bad idea and suddenly dogekek

ashen spindle
#

not quite sure why you'd want a glossy monitor, if contrast is too low go get oled or something

#

I'd rather not have a super reflective screen to look at

shadow minnow
#

Myself overall donโ€™t really mind reflectivness, used to it, and screen itself just looks way better.
Sure OLED would be better but atm burn in for desktop

#

And also when this is the difference

ashen spindle
#

in that case get better blinds since its shit in both cases lol

shadow minnow
#

Well sure but imo right looks better xD

ashen spindle
#

idk to me it just sounds like a solution to problems that hardly exist or are solved already

shadow minnow
#

Itโ€™s not the best solution ngl but still kinda prefer it over no solution which is mostly what you can get atm.

ashen spindle
#

not to mention eve isn't a great company but that doesnt matter for the product

shadow minnow
#

I mean yeah they did have quite a few issues tbf

ashen spindle
#

solution to what?

shadow minnow
#

Luckily I never had to worried about that dogekek

ashen spindle
#

what problem is it solving

shadow minnow
#

I mean itโ€™s kinda solving contrast. Itโ€™s not somving it but at least making it better for same screen

#

Ngl itโ€™s not a solution just making the problem not as bad

#

Hopefully we will get real solutions soon

ashen spindle
#

the solution to lower contrast is called oled

shadow minnow
#

Yeah, just canโ€™t really get ones for gaming for 27โ€ and also burn in

#

But QD OLED comes closer and is more available

#

And however it is called now, thing with quantum dots emitting themselves should be even better

final flame
#

doesn't have to be a "gaming" monitor

pale sigil
#

rn for wd oled it does

#

xd

#

OLED is a waste of money for a monitor

shadow minnow
final flame
#

burn in isn't as much of an issue if you properly take care of the display

#

like lowering brightness and turning it off when not in use

shadow minnow
#

I mean yeah but for desktop use it is not the best for some usecases. It may still happen, and is with some usecases quite likely.

#

Since you often have solid elements for long time like some games

final flame
#

not to mention a OLED for your use case wouldn't be good because they lack brightness other panel types have

shadow minnow
#

OLED brightness for me would be enough for desktop monitor tbh

#

Though for laptop it definitely not enough

#

But where I have monitor placed donโ€™t really need high brightness

ashen spindle
#

im just happy the first qd oled screen is coming in the format I want lol

#

now heres to hope it's not ending up to be a shit product

shadow minnow
#

Yeah the QD OLED screen looks cool.
Not format I want but not like I wanted to spend money on new monitor anytime soon nontheless xD

ashen spindle
#

shouldnt yout first look to get a gpu that can actually power a monitor

shadow minnow
#

That too

#

But nontheless away from monitor for most time for now

final flame
#

probably should get that first

shadow minnow
#

So only gonna get GPU next gen

#

For now for the time I am home M1 pro is enough for more basic of games

final flame
#

good luck it's gonna be the same as the last main release

ashen spindle
#

except it starts at higher prices dogekek

final flame
#

that too

#

I'm just gonna chill with my 2080 I don't need a upgrade anytime soon

shadow minnow
#

Well still for now GPU would be almost useless until like next summer for me.

ashen spindle
#

well the build is already a waste of money so wouldn't change much either way peepoGiggle

shadow minnow
#

I mean you arenโ€™t really wrong pepecry

#

Though monitor deal I got was pretty good

#

And build has good kb with it xD

final flame
#

I mean at least I use my rig for after effects and Photoshop often

#

other than that it's a osu machine

shadow minnow
#

I am with my pc like 3-4 months a year till next summer, and rest can only use laptop

astral haven
#

Parsec is frend

final flame
#

I used to use parsec a lot when away from home on my laptop

#

it's nice as long as you have a good connection

shadow minnow
#

Like the laptop runs well what it can run, issue is the rest

astral haven
#

I use parsec on worse

final flame
#

if I just need to do simple actions on my computer away from home I just use chrome remote desktop

astral haven
#

My phone at work is 5 down at best

shadow minnow
#

Well 12 mbps is the best. Itโ€™s usually closer to 1 pepecry

astral haven
#

Sure it'll be crunchy lol

final flame
#

it takes way less resources to run and it also doesn't need to be run at startup in the tray

fickle ore
#

@ashen spindle This. QD-OLED 34" biggest thing in a few years

shadow minnow
astral haven
#

What?
What's wrong with your GPU?

ashen spindle
#

he never got one

astral haven
#

Right

ashen spindle
#

bc hes waiting for one specific pre waterblocked card

shadow minnow
ashen spindle
#

or was

shadow minnow
#

Not anymore, decided itโ€™s not worth it now

astral haven
#

Pre blocked cards are dumb besides xoc models

ashen spindle
#

well the point was with parsec you could make use of it

astral haven
#

And xoc preblocked cards are unobtainium

shadow minnow
astral haven
#

Alder lake was really pog
And amd has kept swinging as hard as they can

shadow minnow
#

Issue is I didnโ€™t get alder lake lul

ashen spindle
#

yup, and I cant do more than repeat saying "I told you so"6 months ahead of it ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

shadow minnow
#

Tbf when I was buying it I didnโ€™t know I am not getting a GPU, going to go to uk and that itโ€™s gonna be broken for first three months lul

ashen spindle
#

even without gpu it was worse and more expensive

shadow minnow
#

True tbf

astral haven
#

Hardware on release is always broken

shadow minnow
#

My 11900k just died day one

astral haven
#

intel at least fixes it eventually

ashen spindle
#

rocket lake itself is just broken

shadow minnow
final flame
#

coffee lake gang

astral haven
#

Zen 3 gang ๐Ÿ˜ญ

shadow minnow
#

Tea lake when

final flame
#

I have a coffee lake but I prefer tea heheheha

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

b550 gang EZ

final flame
#

z390 gang

shadow minnow
#

Z590 gang pepecry

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

well, now would be a decent time to sell it so you get nice deal before next gen dogekek

astral haven
#

True

#

But also I don't want to sell the first amd CPU I bought outright

#

Same reason I still have the 9900k

#

Tho the 9900k also has more pcie Lanes and I need pcie lanes

astral haven
final flame
#

I need to replace my case and cpu cooler

#

my current case doesn't have airflow and my cooler is just bad

#

it runs at like 50c idle almost always

shadow minnow
#

My cooling is way better than I need it

final flame
#

for a 360mm aio

shadow minnow
#

With full load fluid gets just like 2 or 3 c hotter

#

I have 60 and 45 rad for just cpu atm dogekek

#

(I mean thickness, both are 360mm)

final flame
#

I want to replace my current cooler with a noctua and get a meshify c to replace my current case

#

then maybe my CPU and GPU can finally have some decent temps

#

anytime I take off my front panel temps go down around 10c

#

Corsair spec omega is a nice looking but hot case

#

never again

astral haven
#

Hans, fetch the dremel

#

I also have a new water block for my CPU that I haven't installed

#

I'm waiting on a block for my GPU still

#

๐Ÿ’ข

final flame
#

damn still hasn't arrived yet

astral haven
#

Yup

final flame
#

what are they shipping with. A bike?

astral haven
#

They are still working on manufacturing the things

#

This is Optimus we are talking about here

final flame
#

what is the usual wait time?

astral haven
#

A year

#

From product release to shipping of blocks

shadow minnow
#

I have meshify s2 and it has pretty good temps

final flame
#

damn

wheat plume
#

hmmm

wheat plume
#

Is being able to read the comments while in the video a standard feature now or was it added by Vanced?

empty wren
#

Yes

#

A standard

#

And actually annoying because sometimes it pops up for no reason

wheat plume
#

Oo nice

#

Oh

#

It's popping up the playlist I stayed the video from on the side when I go to Fullscreen

#

I don't like that

empty wren
#

Yeah that too

reef tundra
#

Why would one want to read the youtube comments. They are always trash

#

and wrong

#

and psychotic

#

Atleast it aint twitter

#

that is just hell

#

that was it\

wheat plume
#

Xd

empty wren
#

Also it is awkward since other windows usually have gesture functionality but that comments one has to be clicked away as you can swipe and down for mini screen and fullscreen

final flame
#

you can disable comments in vanced

#

not too sure if it applies to live streams tho

old marlin
#

you hate to see it

#

apparently this mobo does not like that specific slot

fair gull
#

i had the same

#

for me it was apparently dirty lga pin on the cpu

#

or pad i guess

#

for me it was cpu 2 slot 12

old marlin
#

yea already checked that

#

swapping modules aroun rn

#

something is weird tho

fair gull
#

why?

old marlin
#

managed to get less sticks working

#

even though I swapped all the dimms around in the faulty spots already

#

also not degredated

#

just not used

fair gull
#

ye had he exact same on my g8

#

only got it fixed after cleaning the cpu pads and reinserting it

old marlin
#

ye will try that next

#

will have to find out where tf my colleagues put the thermal paste tho

fair gull
#

dont scrape it off

#

just very carefully take it out and clean it

#

cause i was equally lazy

old marlin
#

nah I will just repaste it

#

don't wanna get myself dirty right at the start of my work day

fair gull
#

i get dirty right at the start

#

only way to not get dirty later is to already be dirty

old marlin
#

omegalul one of the heatsinks had no contact from the factory

old marlin
#

different chassis is a lot happier

#

reduced the total amount of ram as well

#

used the same sticks that were seen as faulty on the other one tho

pale sigil
halcyon moss
#

had it for a while now.

ashen spindle
# astral haven Ltt would be better off with Ian as a writer or interviewer

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1494667779626180608 well, speak of the devil, doesn't sound like LTT if he says in tech though

With this interview, I'm completing my final day here at @AnandTech. It's been a great 10 years working with the team, with @ryansmithAT, @anandshimpi, @bretthowse, @gavbon86 + all. My next venture will be in tech - hope to give more information next week. I'm not going far! ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿค˜

fair gull
#

but the bios obv could

old marlin
#

bios locks out channels with faulty sticks

fair gull
#

it can also lock out a single stick

#

in my case it wasnt a channel but just 1 stick as good, unused

old marlin
#

ye

#

just swapped chassis

#

fixed all problems for me

fair gull
#

in my case it was me touching the cpu with my greacy fingers

old marlin
#

lol

#

nah mine were still factory installed

#

I assume nobody at the WDR randomly disassembles their servers

fair gull
#

who knows

reef patrol
#

Linus has to show he's made a VERY thorough attempt to hire a Canadian citizen first before being allowed to import anyone who hasn't already received citizenship of some kind iirc.

ashen spindle
#

Yes thatโ€™s what I said, LTT is unlikely xD

reef patrol
#

Merely agreeing with my take on why ๐Ÿ˜„

ashen spindle
#

Though Ian also said Linus tried to get him multiple time already

#

Soo..

thick elk
#

I think he directly said he was not going to LTT quite directly before as well.

ashen spindle
#

Also it would most likely be remote, so would be a bit relaxed on regulations

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

Weโ€™ll know soon, just funny timing since we talked about it a bit ago

thick elk
#

As for labor laws, I think making a case that you cannot find someone equivalent to him is going to be rather hard.

ashen spindle
#

I think it would be quite easy tbh

thick elk
#

Oh mistyped

ashen spindle
#

how many canadians with a doctorate in fluid dynamics you think exist

#

oh lol

old marlin
#

eh

thick elk
#

Yea, I meant it's not going to be a hard case to make that you can't find a Canadian to fill his job.

old marlin
#

the name alone carries a lot of value already

#

in the sector

thick elk
#

He doesn't seem the type but he could easily cash in and get some major position at a large tech company.

ashen spindle
#

also full time remote could easily be contracted or smth so probably plenty of loopholes if needed, since I dont think he wants to move

fair gull
#

idk who dr man is

reef patrol
#

Dr. Woman's, husband.

ashen spindle
#

Son of Prof. Parent

solar hinge
reef patrol
solar hinge
#

there isn't a reply source :p

reef patrol
#

Yes there is?

solar hinge
#

so i wasn't sure if he was talking about vanced or not

reef patrol
#

Yes.

solar hinge
#

i don't see a source?

reef patrol
#

My bad. I used common sense and looked at Pleasant's comment right above. My mistake. octo

solar hinge
reef patrol
solar hinge
#

1200 euros later...

reef patrol
#

You poor thing. ๐Ÿ˜„

cursive summit
#

Beep boop, humans will perish in nuclear winter now

wheat plume
#

Ah
The Aya Neo

final flame
#

ah the "Rip off" steam deck

reef tundra
#

1000 more?

#

That sounds to me overspecced overpriced junk tier kind of project

ashen spindle
#

more like normally priced piece of niche tech of a small company that doesnt have "fuck you" money like valve

misty saffron
#

iโ€™m glad valve has the fuck you money

#

better than if anyone else had it

crimson wigeon
#

This is what that evil 30% gets us consumers, while the poor game devs are struggling

ashen spindle
#

still has a chance to end up dead after a while like the steam machines

#

or the steam controller

reef tundra
#

or the commodore64

pale sigil
ashen spindle
#

in what way

pale sigil
#

If j remember there was a lot of abuse and stuff like terrible working conditions with devs or something

true quest
#

see: tf2, csgo

ashen spindle
#

I mean abandoning some of their lesser played games isn't what I'd say makes them "pretty shit"

#

also what abuse?

fair gull
#

imo every dev knows what cuts to expect

#

agreeing to it and then crying about it seems unfair

#

if you dont want to give away some money

#

sell it yourself

ashen spindle
#

he's being sarcastic about it

fair gull
#

well others arent

reef tundra
#

Not to mention servers aint coming cheap

#

With those server costs being continues while valve can only once rake in that fee per transaction

ashen spindle
#

"just dont do it the only viable way unless you have a lot of money or similar" isn't really a great argument though

fair gull
#

thats not what i said

#

i said if you dont like it sell it somewhere else or yourself

#

no one forces devs to use steam

#

theres also GOG

#

which id say is rather large

#

and EGS

ashen spindle
#

ah yes, the 5 gog users lol

#

the gog userbase that is so tiny that gog constantly ends in massive red numbers

#

also why should one not be able to complain about a current situation, without having to completely remove oneself from it

fair gull
#

i wouldnt sign it and expect empathy for my own choice

ashen spindle
#

"this is unfair but due to market position the alternatives are even worse" is a valid complaint imo

reef tundra
#

Also valve doesnt demand exclusivity in any way. Developers/publishers dont have to choose between steam or another platform. They can list them on steam, their own website or another 'competitor'

fair gull
#

well due to the market position those cuts are likely not even much considering the possibility of sale to each consumer

ashen spindle
#

"they dont demand exclusivity" that's the same flawed logic when applying it to buying something from a monopolistic company, even if you aren't forced to buy it, it's still something you want and complain about

#

an yes the cuts were a lot better than retail costs when steam launched

#

but storage/bandwith has gotten insanely cheap in comparison so costs for valve went down there

fair gull
#

in general the cuts arent too bad considering you sell a digital item which at some point of amount of sales will just turn into pure profit

#

you will have recouped development costs at some point

#

after that its pure profit and investment into whatever u wanna do next

#

and maybe storage and bandwidth got cheaper

#

but the framework valve offers with steam integration

#

and the neigh behemoth of a storefront

ashen spindle
#

yes nobody says they should do it for free

fair gull
#

imo 30% is completely acceptable

ashen spindle
#

based on what, gut feeling?

fair gull
#

purely on what you can do by selling on steam and using their SDKs

#

it just starts by cloud saves

ashen spindle
#

20% cut after 10 million sold or w/e it was make less sense than 20% while you are still struggling to sell 5k

#

just as one option

fair gull
#

id say after the first 15k sold copies

#

which isnt all that much

#

at 20usd

#

u recouped a good 2 years of work

#

or more

#

so like 150k and up

ashen spindle
#

idc about what it ends up exactly

#

just that the current way doesnt make sense and it's weird to just outright act as if complaints are not valid at all

#

and 15k at 20usd might make sometimes the money back, though not if you are more than one person almost lol

fair gull
#

if you are more than one person

#

and take 2 years for some more simple indie game

#

and dont use alpha features on steam to show of what you have in earlier stages

#

imo

#

thats on you aswell

#

if you have a game thats playable

#

after lets say a good year or 2

#

u can already offer that

#

and you will recoup money yet again

reef tundra
#

If you consider steam as a publisher, 30% is a pretty good rate for handling that side of the process.

ashen spindle
#

but clearly valve a fine with a lower cut since you can get down to 20%, but I can't understand why that is ok but smaller studios that might not make enough to fund the next game or w/e have to suffer bc EA wants another million?

#

in the end we get better products if the big whales "subsidies" the smaller ones basically

fair gull
#

because its probably the same as in retail

ashen spindle
#

instead of the small ones getting killed

fair gull
#

no one fucking cares how little you are and struggling

#

if you dont buy 200k units

ashen spindle
#

so because retail is bad, we should just fuck over the small ones?

#

but why

fair gull
#

you wont be able to beat anyones price of the big bois

ashen spindle
#

it can be different so why should it not be

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why do you want something that would result in worse products and just yet another fifa

fair gull
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because people keep throwing money at the big games

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if those wouldnt sell

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they wouldnt return

reef tundra
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There is also no initial investment or minimum volume requirements. Or Valve intervening into your game development.

fair gull
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steam would need to change

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im fairly certain the big games could deffo keep steam afloat alone

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without any indie games

ashen spindle
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what is your hate against indie games lol

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if you would just flip it around the right way valve might even make the literal same amount of money, but we get more indies and the EA ceo takes 14 instead of 15 million bonus

fair gull
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thats why i said

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if people

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stop to pay for the same rerelease every year

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shit would change

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and yet people buy fifa 3845 and complain

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or cod 34978214

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or any other of the yearly releases

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of reskinned reused shit

ashen spindle
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ok but why put it on the people instead of just changing the system, so people who like the same thing can get it, and others can still enjoy more small stuff

fair gull
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because thats not how the world works

ashen spindle
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why does the consumer have to bear the burden

fair gull
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i wish i could change the fucking system

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cause then i wouldnt have to fear for my store closing down

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this isnt purely a steam issue

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this is any marketplace

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tbe big bois always win

ashen spindle
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ok and we should just give up or what

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and not suggest changes that might be unlikely but would be nice

fair gull
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no you have to change the people first

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cause society is what makes up the system

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cant change the system without changing the people

ashen spindle
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ok but what would be hurt if you just do both

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why have the consumers suffer as the only option instead of trying if something else works first

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you can say you dont think it will happen sure, that's absolutely fine

fair gull
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because this seems to have gone on for years

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and i dont see any change for some reason

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the fact is that steam runs as it runs cause people do as they do

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if people do differently

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steam has to adapt

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why would they change

ashen spindle
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and that is a valid viewpoint, but how does that suddenly change what would be good?

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"I dont think it happens so everyone else should stop trying to make good changes" is what I'm getting from it

fair gull
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because the best option rn is to eat whatever cut to the marketplace

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just so you can compete

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the good changes are to fucking stop being a sheep

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the change is

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people should vote with their wallet

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not with tweets

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and people vote big studios

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i could put a muppet on a stick in control of EA

ashen spindle
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so should a small dev try to convince society instead of try to convince a company?

fair gull
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and it would sell just as many games

reef tundra
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You cant vote with your wallet.

fair gull
ashen spindle
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ok so you think it's futile that's fine, but thinking a complaint is futile doesnt really make it bad or something that shouldn't be done

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if it's futile then nothing comes from it so it doesn't hurt

fair gull
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the way people complain is unnecessary tho

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have actual discussions

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on why its bad

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not just

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is bad