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hmm looks suspicious
🤯
better wait on 3rd party results
Would have been even more fun if it didn’t start at 0 
As in the graph
Hey that's a first accurate graphic from Nvidia
Progress is progress
I agree
2 min, 3 desirable
Yep yep
If they did, it is in the consumers favor as GPU memory chips are powers of 2
There are devs that use less than 3 screens?
Whether it is in the benefit of the consumer wont change the case that it an inaccurate graphic from them.
First layer seems to be a little high, if I see it correctly. Good first layer should 'squish' the lines together a little.
You also have specific printsurfaces that release the printjob on cooldown
Oh they are pretty close
how do u print so flat
i cant get it to print flat at all
If I set my settings correctly the first layer will be a continues plastic sheet. No gaps in-between them
Usually I print at 25mm/s for detailed part
Ah
1080 ti moment
You meant the gap between walls and inside
The memory chips are still powers of 2
There are just 11 of them
Like if you tell it to fill an area it wont have any holes between the travellines on the initial layer
tip: Petg sticks really well to kapton tape. 😉
I tightened all my springs so the bed is at the lowest and used paper to feel for a light but consistent frictional top force to level the bed, also you really should set the z offset paper is needed and - value goes down, besides that I print mostly slow right now
Get better orange springs I would say first
Sticks well to the sticker I got
But I wanted to test glue
Guessing by you asking about why I had paper on printer a while back you never set the z offset
I got mixed results with gluesticks, atleast thats how I remember working with that
You do want to use as wide as possible tape available. The overlap and voids will show up in your prints. The nozzle can also snag and rip the tape as it passes over the tape boundries
Good thing I did not use tape
I am guessing an issue with glue is glops
I had find details on this model
Which went okay
But then some squares went crazy
If overapplied it can show up on your prints
On the bottom
Guessing it can shift some layers as well
This mostly looks okay anyways
Good thing about it would be the water solvable characteristic. (Gluestick)
You can just use running water to remove the glue from the bed
I remember how I would just take the entire bedsurface and use the shower to wash it all off
How lolis shower, featuring Ecco2k and a runescape quest npc
Really weird the squares
Cause a stretched blob
Not the tiny holes
Not the other pieces
Hell even the jank rectangle looked like a rectanglr
Oo...
This is neat
Won't have to fully rely on steam input now
XD
wireless mouse 1st world problems
you mean the tile tracker
attach a brick to it
no no
much cheaper than a tile and you'll hear it when it falls off
attach slave to it
since technically it is a slave to the computer 
XD
well actually wait
what if it is wireless
sure
speaking of PS2, can you combine 2 usb into 1 ps2 port?
cause I've not seen those adapters
one billion million dollar adapter pirce
i swear some adapters cost a bunch for a no reason
I've seen the port which accepts both but can you split two and use two at one time
either or is lame
that would free up an extra usb slot on itx motherboards
I couldn't even find an adapter to do that
I didn't deep dive into it but no avail with a quick search
not enough
but that's in the past anyway lol
gotta start over as you know
why not get a hub
most devices are okay on it besides wooting keyboard
I probably would've resorted to that eventually but we'll see what case comes across my lap next and if I need it
would be cool if wooting could make the keyboard compatible with ps2
even faster speeds
hmm
oh those are old
well new old
but they are doing cool stuff with em
yeah
eh interrrupt sounds cool
would be interesting so see how polling handles analog
oh and tachyon mode on >:)
lol
The division games like to stutter with 1000 hz
car customization in the car meet when you move up or down it doubles it
and mouse movement is sticky on agency computer and creates lag
I searched forever trying to find the issue to the division and came across that advice and fixed it entirely. So weird because it wasn't even consistent with the stutter
it's default for a lot of devices lol
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yesn't
also depends on things like using forms of syncing to remove tear
I think generally it's a good value but not always that clear
a goof rule of thumb is to set perpherial reshr rate to monitor resfrsh rate 
the mouse guide is a bit older and mostly was about the part where it compares frequencies
the forum post is never
XDDDDDDDDD
nyquist frequency is the minimum frequency needed for sampling signals without aliasing.
Yes
Dont forget to use two seperate host controllers
Or you would be sharing the same bus
with yourself

for one part, because your updates dont exactly line up with your fps
no simper, so if you have same rate as fps, you can get up to half of that as delay, if you get an update at 0.5 time of the new frame, you have that + the frametime as delay
it's less of an issue the higher the update rate is since then even at it's worst it will be closer to when it registers the input
The best reason would be to get more consistent behaviour/latency. The higher the frequency the closer to discrete can model the continues
Interrupts are very punishing if you are using a multi-core/threaded system
polling sticks now
Like insanely harsh
in what way
It forces all the threads/cores to stop immidiately and handle that interrupt
that and makes it easier to have less different connections and use the same protocol/same controller on chips etc.
e.e
if we lived a different world could have had a core for mouse and another for keyboards
maybe software could just say this core is for this
let it be its own system
shruggie
could be fine
1999999999999999999999999999999 threads
yeah lets not waste even more expensive chip space for something a generic protocol with more use can do
polling would also make the entire design more idiotproof. No misbehaving device that can just keep interrupting the entiresystem.. and just keep it there
actually that is a important point
USB KILLLERRRRRRRRRRRRR
sure but that's because there is never a 100% security
no no
USB is one of the most suitable generic protocol available.
people need to plug thjeri pohone in omnious charge at hack con
sure but one thing having flaws doesn't mean the other things flaws become less relevant
so you want dedicated things for everything, separate things for audio, for data transfers etc.?
so instead of an usb issue you get 10 different ones
one port having an issue would mean you now need a converter or can no longer use audio on your board
if you want more things you need a new board bc your first purchase didn't have as many of port x that you needed etc.
yeah but for most parts you can now use usb and have multiple ports and can switch stuff around
Anycase, USB is great as an generic all-purpose protocol. Should work in most situations you can expose it to
and then we have the point of different hardware standards, would require more space on cpus and cost more etc.
it's basically doing it the linux way on hardware for no reason
thats why I'm mentioning it
usb is like the systemd of hardware to you
Excellent
yeah, my vr stuff uses usb and if those things would be all its own connectors I'd most likely need a different board
I wouldn't gain any benefit from it all being separate and only gain the knowledge of being more limited and if something is broken I'd need different things instead of just use an spare usb cable
who knows if smth like a usb kvm would work etc.
Modulairity is nice
for me it's vr, for another person it might be a big audio upgrade, for someone else it might be using a kinect or smth funny
or lets keep it simpler, a xbox controller
but aside from the principle, what benefit would you get?
leaving the high end problems of not yet perfect polling for 8khz mice aside
but what would be the benefit
how so
If you have hardware access, its game over for security
with people wanting macros, rgb, usb passthrough etc. you'd still need quickly need more than pure input signals
so instead of usb a different attack vector would be used
but instead of 1 thing needing a patch you now have 10
or however many you'd end up with
There is a system that can wipe itself
because it's a number bigger than 1
Yeah why not 8.1
also one other thing you are forgetting is smartphones/laptops
you have a much more limited port option there
imagine a phone needing like 5 ports because usb isn't a thing 
Yes please give us floppy disk slot on phone please and thank you
I much prefer having a dongle over literally not having any other option that using the exact ports my laptop/phone comes with
So the audio jack going away does not bother you?
if you have a thin laptop with no more space than like 2 usb ports would you rather have usb or 2 ports that you cant use for what you want
but that's not related to what the connector can do
Got to be careful with that
so you are forcing people to carry not just the laptop but also components around
Technically a single adapter hub would be better than loose small objects in this case
REEE
Everything DB-9 or bust
Every protocol, every pin, every situation, poorly documented

DB-9 is only the specification for the physical connector after all.
The thing that sucks the most is
Hubs not ones based on thunderbolt probably need external power
Still counts
Just connect directly to the PCIe bus and you would be free from having to deal with usb

Ever had to develop PCIe hardware? Its.. fun

Software simulator go brrrrrrr
It only takes a few hours to get like nanosecond of action

Its only your CPU or chipset that you are risking anyway 🤷
Good thing is that at least with laptops you can now go the other way around and have DP, usb hub and laptop power
Many do nowadays
Just not the other way around
source: PCI Express Card Electromechanical Specification Revision 4.0, Version 0.9 published on November 27, 2018
I mean didn’t they also work on thunderbolt with intel 
Copperpeak
cough recently being 2014
If you cant use it as a farming implement why even bother. Ak-47? more like ak-notagoodfarmingimplemt amirite 🧐 ☝️
Rapid long range speed delivery
Ok?
So you have to pay royalties for thunderbolt
You have to pay royalties for hdmi too
It works perfectly
The only feature you lose from using it without motherboard support is hotswap pcie devices
Gigabyte released the thunderbolt aic card then
Was thunderbolt 2 iirc?
Or was it 1
Was thunderbolt 2
Yea because noone cared
Hotswap pcie devices would be only interresting for the server sector
The use for thunderbolt was the apple cinema displays which werent following spec and audio interfaces
Not entirely true
I'm very happy to injest footage from my camera at full speed
And low latency audio interfaces
Yup
Get an SSD if you spend so much time rebooting
I have ~1200 programs installed on my PC lol
Yea I was gonna say
Games
I paid for them
That’s even worse 
So I can have them if I want
Say what you will
Humble bundle is great
I've spent around 2500 including an index
Humble bumble
Wait is $ £ conversion that huge difference
its alot
but a vr headset is a vr headset
yup
i make alot of bad decisions
hey
$12 a month for 12 games a month
over time they build up
generally 1 game per that I really wanted, 2 games that I tend to eventually play
the rest I havent played
Solution: Add money
ign bought them
but i was grandfathered into their old pricing so idc
tho
uh
you folks might be alot more disappointed by what i just bought today
ill give you a hint
it cost about the same as all that
A recreational thermonuclear warhead?
well
think harder
actually no its not more expensive than tape per unit drive
but its alooot lower capacity
ssd
1 singular ssd
ill give you a hint
It's replacing this :P
actually nothing
i dont even use my personal computer any more thanks to my new job
yup
ebay special half off about
still cost as much as my steam library
approx
With tape drive you mean those large archival ones. Because something like cassettes are also utilising tape
have you ever owned the fastest ssd?
nah
this is cheaper per iop
by a long shot
But what to use it for?
That makes more sense
and ice shits the bed if you use hdds to cache
Even if still have to wonder if just using 4.0 ssd wouldn’t be as fast for panoramas
its also rather glitchy in the memory reporting
lemme find the pic
shoot cant find the screenshot
anyways it needs about 1tb of cache
software
ICE
it was a free tech demo from microsoft that just happens to be the last remaining panorama software that can handle over 100 images
uh
the problem is i dont have an autopanorama head
so it has to align everything
you just wait 3 minutes for it to load
most image software can actually handle it tbh
i just got a lens that is double the focal length of the one i used to make this pano
4x as many images
nyways ssd install time
and im gonna regret my life again because x570 is broken
nope
far as i know theres zero software for linux
there is one python combiner program that is universal but its for scientific panoramas so the image files are useless
everything else is mac or windows
i really want a copy of autopano giga
but its gone 😦
yea probably
whats super scuffed is that the input images are only like 200gb
yet it needs over a tb to process it
well theres alot of overlap between images
normal overlap is supposed to be like 10%
but I eyeball it, so it ends up with like 70% overlap
nways
time to install a very spensive ssd
i could
but im very lazy
the p5800x will always be the fastest pcie 4 ssd
thanks to pcie 4 being canned in 2 years
i also have some even faster optane on the way 😉
Me too
Atleast now he is one very fast ssd richer. 😎
Hey now I can go back to saying the most expensive component in my PC is the storage
When I removed the 3 75w ssds that were causing my room to turn into a sauna that honor dropped back to my video card
dude one screenshot for me takes 1gb
Wouldn’t it be cheaper than optane even if you bought it 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/689699-REG/Giga_Pan_EPIC_PRO_EPIC_Pro_Robotic_Camera.html?ap=y&smp=y
Yes but also I would still need something to stitch still big images
Money is only useful if you spend it. Can't use it once you are dead.. or when it dies.
I'm using a maybe $15 tripod lol
Ffs there's a distinct lack of posting
Aah
Oooh
boot
now my pc is having an aneurism
ah shoot
uh uo
uno
it aint there
It died
no it was shipped to me dead 😛

butchered thier name hou could yoiu

okay hold on
Someone got scammed 👀 lol? lmao even? hehe perhaps?
eBay money back guarantee exists
Soul mate found
But unfortunately im actually a moron and I just unplugged it while messing with the cables
heck ye bois
I got teardrops stuck on my screen now
not recognized by all previous versions of Windows. Truly a tragedy.
Poor Cobol user
Windows begins at C://
windows starts at 0 for counting
A and B are reserved for floppy drives I remembered
Oh you got disks
i have many disks
Bruh
what I really love that the lowest capacity ssds i have are the tlc ones and the larger ones are mlc
I assume mlc is better then?
Yep
Qlc is yikes
Tlc is normal
Mlc is better
And SLC is industrial only at this point because mlc is so good
Also it has been a while since I installed ssd drivers
But uh
500mb/s ain't it
ooh it might actually be a legit drive
Best way to know.. run and see what it does
Windows drivers experience 9/10
AMD drivers
this aint a windows problem ill tell you that much
In fact
I used to have more in theory faster optane
I had 3 gen 1 drives in raid 0
But the problem was it was amd raid
Which isn't exactly functional 90% of the time
Not connected straight into the PCIe lanes of the CPU?
Remember the iodie issue?
The iodie chip is identical to x570
And that's not a good thing
It's stonks for amd
well duh, they aren't making new parts, just more of older parts
The 5950x is estimated to cost around $150 to produce
cool
(this is where you tell me the iodie is literally pennies of that or some shit)
Aint ringing any bells what the iodie issue referring to.
wait...oh...USB issues on AM4 boards are tied to CPUs and not Mobos?
Ofc not
It's just that if you have promontory boards (not x570) you are usually free of issues
It's something to do with the chip not working well with itself
well with itself
And they also told server folks that the issue wasn't gonna be fixed
sounds like me ngl
Oof
Well another copy of itself
Oh
Why don't they fix it you ask?
the answer is obviously...money 
that's even worse
although...they could fix it by outright replacing part that isn't playing nice, no?
It'll be fixed in Genoa at least
Oh no
It's just gonna be a problem for these CPUs period
Only "fix" is to raise the voltage which makes the problem much more intermittent
Genoa is releasing late 2022 btw
so end result...known issue, live with it, buy genoa or live like the filthy poor you are

good to know
...
well duh...you'd buy it when it's out
I thought that was heavily implied...or just common sense
What if you idk
Need a computer now?
Then you don’t 
Intel inside is an option
then you pull the good ol strategy of just buying a cheap ass part that fits till you can get the new part
Is it related to the USB issues on some amd cpus. Or something?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yes
The iodie issue caused the USB issues
that would mean a cheap ass A series mobo and Athlon or something
just to get you up and running
Ah yes let's build a datacenter of athlons
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I really appreciate how my computer is no longer booting
Pog
Unpog
True
have you tried unpogging and repogging it?
Yep
and?
nu pog
Hahaha
Use your spare kernel
(I don't hate myself enough to do that)

Actually I could now tbh if I didnt want to play games
Not like I have any time to play games anyways
well
Metro Exodus got a native linux release
could be a fun game to chip away an hour or so at a time
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Isn't it worse than running it through proton?
not that I'm aware of
Would be news to me
So far proton has been destroying native releases performance and stutter wise
Proton works pretty well for me, Just no raytracing(nvidia specific), dlss, or online with anti-cheat enabled
Raytracing is Microsoft specific not nvidia
Ye
haven't seen any AMD RT titles beyond FC6, which I will pirate at some point

just like RTX in 2018
a gamechanger (because it will kill your framerate) in the 5 games that support it
The first cards to run dxr raytracing were amd lol
Vulkan Raytracing will work.
Vkrt is slow
And is even more slow when fallback is enabled
Uh uo
I heard a very suspicious popping sound
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Ray tracing right now is a feature that works on consoles fairly
Yes and every PC more powerful than a console
I just mean it does not seem to ruin the console experience
Even if it is more limited than the options on a computer that runs windows
I've had great experiences running raytracing 🤷
I am honestly surprised a dlss like feature is uncommon
Dlss was 3 years beyond bleeding edge (academic research) upscaling when it was released
And it still is
I get that it looks better with "ai models" just that consoles ran at dynamic settings while here we are on windows no such thing really
My ehdd both in windows and macOS shows up in device manager and even seagate toolkit but toolkit says unreadable volume and can’t access it overall
Fantastic for buildings
Well that or like what we have now on the new consoles they got some some modes like performance and quality and game is actively following the policy
Like you could say high refresh rate and everything would scale down to maintain it if necessary
Or scale up if it is fine
Raytracing is something i barely notice during normal gameplay tbh. I do notice the fps being halved when enabled. Still, it do be looking nice when you look for it.
PCs run aloooot faster than consoles usually
It turned cyberpunk from a 2017 game to a 2021 game
And it made it have atmosphere
visually
Lighting was said to already be great in cyberpunk on windows stock as well
Yea the lighting was good
But it was solidly 2017 cryengine tier
this is awfully sad
if DL2 is as much as a letdown as CP2077 I'll riot
I was pleasantly surprised by cyberpunk
From the hype I thought it was going to burn
But I really enjoyed it
I felt like cyberpunk did nothing but burn
your video card lol
Nooooo do not unleash nfts onto the world
They could still totally save CP but I imagine they won't cause investors and shit
Well they are still working on it
Witcher 3 was pretty much the same as this
Tho it outright had no issues on pc
On super strong PCs that is
NASA
Development hasn't given up yet with 1.5 being announced atleast 🤷
nah even with a 3090 it ran way worse than it had any right to
yea this is relatively impressive seq q1
as a 3090 owner I disagree but ok lets hear your insight
as another 3090 owner it ran like ass per my standards
though I'm picky as fuck apparently
🤷 per unit image quality the only game that ran better that ive played is hunt showdown
and maybe half life alyx
but thats cheating
hmm
not a good sign
3090 was a 3080 but with more vram right?
basically, yes
very hot vram, I don't know if the 3080 got as hot
but it was mainly the vram on the back reaching those temps afaik
performance wise in games it's basically the same
at lower resolutions like 1440p and 4k
dlss is our savior
Always remember repadded 3090Ti will likely drop 35 to 40 degrees off 3090. 
Hmm so apparently windows 11 file manager is still absolutely awful
That double density NAND putting in work.
new dlss is nice, sure but it's still a noticeable difference in most games
balanced for 1440p, performance for 4k, quality for 1080p
thats about the limit that is visible
if you really are unhappy you can drop it 1 step
what im most sad about is that it isnt async
in the future this stuff should be part of the clockgen on the video out so that it doesnt affect performance
Ngl I’m just happy with more VRAM on all cards.
holy shit thats a lot of vram. How the fuck are you even able to use that much.
24gb?
Yeee.
vram gud
I run out of performance before i even reach anywhere near my 6gb vram budget, 
Just get a better PC, 17head. 
Nice, that solved the issue 👍
New issue: money 
You mean the one in the basement?
Been trying to get rid of it for a while, where do you recommend selling?
PM me the specs and we'll see if I'm interested
Sure
I know that

why tf are people trying to scalp the 5950x in germany
Cheapest on kleinanzeigen is 550
From then all are 600 and up
But with adds from retailers inbetween for 530 and less
Which have stock
128GB/s PCI-E SSDs.
Can’t wait for Windows to freak out when somebody actually tries RAIDing up to that kind of speed.
Technically possible because threadripper.
Pretty sure there’s also no Linux disto that exists that can do that kind of speed.
x16, m.2 is a quarter of that
still stupid fast
ig future of networking is UBS 6 
Iirc Linux kernel freaks out if you attempt pushing past 30GB/s.
fuck QSFP

that is 32GB/s
ig we will see a fix
All I want is to download Warzone from a cached server in .8 seconds. 
lol
yea uhhh
networking will get to it's limit
the more common stuff in datacenters only does up to 100Gbps
Technically you can do 100Gb by 8, no?
some 400Gbps afaik
With enough add on cards.
Pretty sure much more after that the CPU starts having a panic.
also you would need multiple just to fully saturate the bandwidth of a single drive
meanwhile my laptop SSD completely bottlenecks a gigabit connection 
What board even lets you split NVMe that much and actually have enough 400Gb/s cards to saturate like that?
yea by then you would have much bigger ones even
also if your CPU supports that bandwidth on a single 4x link
I’m thinking some crazy tier dual CPU nonsense boards with SUPER custom layouts might be able to.
you have that bandwidth on the other 124 links
It's the QSFP-DD transceivers that can do 400gb/s, aye?
The super crazy overkill ones.

i just ordered 23 sff caddies now for my dl g8
and a 25sff front part
still need to find a 25sff compatible top cover
Hmm so my ehdd that is sometimes visible on macOS and windows and sometimes not, has decided to today not show up on macOS, but show up in windows 11 in parallels… 
dl g8?
well dl is a line of hp proliant servers
g8 is the generation
dl380 would be the subseries of models of the dl lines
usually having an e and p model
the best thing i read so far was a guy asking why his caddies have the release button lighting up ever since he made all his disks 1 big raid 0
made me giggle ngl

how do I succesfully manage to misplace my office 2013 pro iso when I need it
ah
because it isn't an iso

2013 is not supported anymore :p
I would say as if that matters really
but the 2022 bug is actually kinda shit

yea uhhh, guess I will try to push for office 2019 keys
since 2016 is also getting old af by now
what 2022 bug
search is broken in 2013
can't find anything of 2022
since they do some shit timestamp conversion
and 2022 causes a buffer overflow
technically in some parts of outlook we are in the 13th month of 2021

also got some stonks back from a keeb
ig I will buy monitors or something
time to buy 5tb drives bit by bit
Technology
who tf thought the 3080 12GB is a good idea
It would be a good idea imo
If the price would stay the same 
It's a great idea, just not an extra thousand euro for it. 
It would literally cost less to buy double density NAND from China and find a 3rd party repairman that can do a swap on an original 3080.
Parts, shipping, and labor would cost less than the privilege of buying an LHR card.
I cant pause updates either :/
There a reason to pause?
Like I assume it isn't autoinstalling Win11, no?
Ah.
First dual boot usually doesn't break from minor updates
But yea when it's already installing it's too late
fucking damn it
you can just delete the update files..
o?
though at your own risk
and just disable updates if you dont want them via group policy
Not a good idea after installing starts
maybe idk
hence at your own risk
I just dont understand why updates are not disabled if this is at least the like 4th time you say it breaks your dual boot
why not disable it after the first time it happens
They were but I wasnt on my computer for most of December so the pause period ran out
I said disable not pause
Pause isn't disable
feel like a broken record saying group policy over and over again
though I guess that link seems to be registry change which also should work
filthy home user
not even win pro
but also to fix all ur issues with dual boot
use wsl2
ez fix

My housemate is complaining to the other housemate about how loud my keyboard is....
tbf, Wooting two is the loudest board Ive ever used so far
and these arent even the clicky switches
2HE is one of the quietest I've ever used
🤔 interesting
then again, I'm an avid clicky user :>
first board was a matias tactile pro
click click click click clickclickclick goes Doge's keyboard
smh
"how to not solve problems"
He pinged me in the group aht to get o rings
deskpad might solve it better
or you could get a matias tactile pro 
just put the keyboard ontop of the wrist rest
I have a desk mat, but the mat is too large for my current desk...
so , I use my mouse pad for just my mouse
perhaps i should

are they just called keyboard mats?
and if your housemates complain after the fact....
maybe they're the issue
dispose of them
deskmats
but its a fuck ton less loud than mine
🤔
this showed up for the search term "desk mat"
LOL
actually unsure if anybody makes one specifically for keyboards in fullsize
what is the size problems at your current desk?
too wide?
no like in units
use american measurements and I will have your head
can you measure 
1 and a half wooting twos
LOL
use the deskmat and just leave it handing over the side?
mousepads between 60 and 70cm width
ah wait

600 and 700 mm for those playing along at home
wrong direction
this is the right one
nothign especially good on the list
but you prob want a fit that is as exact as possible
cut the excess mousemat
price does not make it better
razer gigantus v2 is an amazing surface for example
and the most bought version costs 20€
deskmat one is way too large for you though
is 940 by 410
the only things on the desk are my keyboard and mouse and the mousepad and my Switch dock
And when I eat, my plate of food xd
I hope you move your mousepad out of the way when you do 
I move my keyboard
I mean I have a large enough desk to theoretically just move it all up by like 30cm
but my keeb is too heavy to move it as one thing 
wut?
ooh
Yeah.
wut
Thing is they have the single lowest friction coefficient of any mousepad.
Why you need arm sleeve to use mousepad?
With the right feet the mouse has almost nothing in traction.
It's glass, if you have hairy arms the friction coefficient can be WAY higher on top of skin having a really high friction coefficient.
If you use a skypad with the good mouse feet and a DeltaHub Carpio with arm sleeve then your entire mouse arm has almost nothing in friction.

I would not receommend getting glass pads
not necessarily bad
but just not for everyone
hairy arms are actually better
bare skin sticks to the glass
even then not for everyone
I was more considering sweat as well.
It's also kinda painful, I'd know. 
glass for fps gamin wut? it's for 2d gaming not 3d
I've found the low friction combo to be really good for fps gaming when you have custom acceleration as well.
Just super high precision.
It's not good if you don't have control.
Hence deltahub carpio.
no even then
just it being low friction does not make it better
static vs dynamic friction balance WAY more important
I'mma leave friction talk to secret chat
I won't even try to take part in that
Why not, you're valuable 🙂
Friction is great.
dont care just give me a wooting pad finally so I can replace my steelseries qck 
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Used to use that, I prefer medium weight low friction.
Super light stuff just feels super low quality. 
🤨 Isnt that what everyone ought to do with nfts?
No idea. NFTs are one of those things that're very odd.
Fantastic scamming tool, but how tf is anybody buying shit like cryptopunks and actually thinking it'll have utility?
yes fun joke that does nothing of value either
yeah but funny
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4k60 in
Preorder confirmed
Now I need to buy some 2.5g USB adapters
Hmm actually
WiFi
I just learned about Updog.... it seems so useful!!

that is not old enough yet for people to fall for it again
it makes a local server to host files that are in the folder you run updog from
so you can access those folders over your local network :D
this is a nice web interface
Updog lol
:')
this is very backwards 😛
Low static or low dynamic
Actually probably should ask material of mouse feet as well
Low friction in general. I find the less friction there exists between the mouse and pad the better.
Currently nylon but that's due for an upgrade.
Nylon mouse skates?
I think nylon, I'm pretty tired. Lemme check.
@young pecan You want as little inertia as possible, and high amount of dampening. Read this. It explains it better than I could. https://www.overclock.net/threads/brachistochrone-aim.1635287/
I would think ptfe but alrright
I would not be surprised if someone did, I saw someone using copper ones
Artisan has nylon 66 and UHMWPE feet
probably not
Idk, but hyper low friction has always felt nice to me.
PEEK might be close
Originally it was actually a huge issue for accuracy and I couldn't hit fuckin' anything, but mouse acceleration mostly fixed that.
Stupid custom curve I tinkered with for weeks.
Coat everything in a nice bath of lubricating oil. Like a turbocharger has to does.
Just have neutron degenerate matter mousepad, idiot.
Infinitely frictionless if it's less than an atom in either direction on the Y axis. 
What is that
Expensive
Also peek has piss ass friction unl as what I read is wrong
But has great mechanical application
Unlike uhmwpe
High temperature, high performance polymer
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I got a name of a substance more expensive and better than both
But I can only find it easily available in powered form
PEEK can be processed by conventional methods such as injection molding, extrusion, compression molding etc. However, the processing conditions used to mold PEEK can influence the crystallinity, and hence the mechanical properties.
As a linear thermoplastic, Polyetheretherketone can be melt processed in the temperature range of 370 to 420°C. While processing Polyetheretherketone, no corrosive gases are evolved.
every material sucks 
Gotta find the one that is the least sucky one
hey guys, this "full analog motion input" doodad got me thinking
Thinking hurts
does this Wootang keyboard, like, output midi velocity or something?
seen something about a midi api/driver being developed on
Well bam is two places behind diamond in hardness and has 0.02 coefficient of friction
if every key has pressure, then I imagine velocity/aftertouch being a thing
Would make products last too long 
It exists already though
Piano application has it already
ok, will water-based lube work?

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