#🔌│tech | Wooting | Page 1086

crisp granite Nov 27, 2021, 9:43 PM

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I KNOW

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/908036282960199700.gif?size=48

shadow minnow Nov 27, 2021, 9:44 PM

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on this server

crisp granite Nov 27, 2021, 9:44 PM

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my DMs are a completely different matter

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you win this time

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but I have my eyes on you

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I mean...I always do, but now it's for a decent reason

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👀

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you're being watched

shadow minnow Nov 27, 2021, 9:49 PM

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What a lie

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What about mechkeys?

crisp granite Nov 27, 2021, 9:50 PM

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mechkeys is keyboard

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also shitposting and flexing yet ANOTHER 60% I'd rather wipe my shit stained ass with

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pepeno

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needs more ISO

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needs more alice

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needs more f rows

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needs more numpads

subtle shale Nov 27, 2021, 9:51 PM

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can someone please help me i play fortnite on gforce now but idk how to get double movement because i am origanally on a mac

ashen spindle Nov 27, 2021, 9:51 PM

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#archived_fortnite_double_movement go there

subtle shale Nov 27, 2021, 9:52 PM

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ok thanks

crisp granite Nov 27, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Quin...you watch the chats like a hawk

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damn bro

crisp granite Nov 27, 2021, 10:23 PM

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...

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you disgust me

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and that's not enough to give you the ban hammer...

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yet

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evilcop2

pale sigil Nov 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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id have to record the server bar to show my servers

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nvm

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i left a lot

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a plugin that allows plugins repo in client

young pecan Nov 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Pluginrepo is great. :D

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Allows for plugin updates and alerts in client as well.

pale sigil Nov 27, 2021, 11:03 PM

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did not know it was a thing

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ive used the same plugins for years

wheat plume Nov 27, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Is youtube-dl slow AF for anyone else?

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downloads less than 100kb/s for me :/

reef patrol Nov 27, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I wouldn't know. I... don't download YT videos.

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dogekek

wheat plume Nov 27, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I want to download this one incase it gets taken offline

wheat plume Nov 27, 2021, 11:48 PM

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O.o

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Maybe Google limit bandwidth if its not coming from the youtube website

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youtube-dl was real slow for quite a while now

empty wren Nov 27, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Tinfoil hats work best

wheat plume Nov 27, 2021, 11:55 PM

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JuST DoNt Go onLiNe, ThEN YoU CaNT GeT TraCkEd

empty wren Nov 27, 2021, 11:56 PM

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I just do not understand such an obsession, telemetry can be useful

ashen spindle Nov 27, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Until someone tracks you by virtue of you being so unique in your fingerprints you still leave that it makes you stick out even more 🙂

empty wren Nov 27, 2021, 11:56 PM

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XD

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They will always come up with some new tracking info method

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A game of Everybody runs around with their secrets and their schemes, trying to outwit one another

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I mean not really

ashen spindle Nov 27, 2021, 11:59 PM

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I mean I wish laws and such would be better around it and I get wanting to have less data left behind

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but by trying to be more private you could easily stick out more

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Facebook even tracks people without a Facebook account

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Currently, the cheapest way for me to get a Pixel 6 is to switch to a new phone company.... and then that would also mean that the phone is carrier locked and I do not want that...

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Yeah, but thats EXPENSIVE AF

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Maybe wait for 6A

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Unless you really want that bleeding edge you will save a lot more

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Take whatever the price of the 6A is, then add on 23%

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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:S

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Thats why the 6 is too expensive for me to buy

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Unless I swap carrier and get this one

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:03 AM

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why 23% more?

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 12:04 AM

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@wheat plume

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:04 AM

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wait isn't that just VAT

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Import fees to bring it into the EU

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pay it to the delivery driver or the local post office

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:05 AM

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how much does it cost for you, 650€?

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ye

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charger brick

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:06 AM

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so it's just the normal price

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:07 AM

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650 + 30 for brick = 680

23% = 836

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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.. then dont say yes if I ask if it costs 650 for you???

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if it's not 650

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Unless, Google has a warehouse it ships from somewhere in the EU

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THEN it would be 650

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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bruh

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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but they dont ;-;

crimson wigeon Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Google ships from NL I'm pretty sure

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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WUT?

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Just ask wooting to hold on to it and then travel there lul

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Do they actually have an EU warehouse?!

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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why dont you just look at the google store instead of assuming what it does or doesnt do

crimson wigeon Nov 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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bruh

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Their EU HQ is in Dublin, but I doubt they also have a warehouse there

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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ashen spindle why dont you just look at the google store instead of assuming what it does or d...

They ship to Ireland, Im well aware

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But that could mean it ship FROM the USA

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And if that's the case, then thats my problem, cause of the 23% tax

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The Warehouse sits on the waterfront to the rear of South Bank House and comprises a 19th century, three-storey warehouse building with more than 1,811sq m (19,500sq ft) that was extensively refurbished to provide modern office space.

Both assets are leased to Mason Hayes and Curran, a Dublin law firm with offices in London, New York and San Francisco.

The two properties were acquired by Kennedy Wilson in July 2013 and sit adjacent to Boland’s Quay, a mixed-use development due for completion in the first quarter of 2020. It was also acquired by Google for about €300 million in May 2018.

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Ireland.... ?

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That the HQ though?

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wait wait

reef patrol Nov 28, 2021, 12:12 AM

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My god... just contact them and ASK.

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:15 AM

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I can try

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:15 AM

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like, you know euro prices are shown with VAT included already?

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:16 AM

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not import fees

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cause that depends on the country

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:16 AM

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you are aware VAT also depends on the country?

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Yes, but Google dont get this 23%, the government do

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Thats why you need to pay it to the post office

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:17 AM

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wait who do you think gets the VAT

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:18 AM

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no its not... I have to pay it on amazon orders also

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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on orders from amazon.com or .de or which ones

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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.com

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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and those prices are shown in $ right

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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no

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well, on .com yes

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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.....

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bruh I give up

crimson wigeon Nov 28, 2021, 12:20 AM

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pepeg

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:20 AM

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before I go insane

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we literally had this like 2 weeks ago or something like that

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my brain cant handle this

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:20 AM

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ok...then why did I need to pay 80 euro on my last order from the UK?

crimson wigeon Nov 28, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Brexit, innit

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:20 AM

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to the deliver driver

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:21 AM

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ah yes, the last order where I totally know what it is, what site, what the sites said etc. etc.

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:21 AM

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it was a UK site for anime figurines

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and I got email from post office to pay thr 23% on delivery

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:22 AM

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I genuinely dont understand why you just simply google "ireland import fees" or a similar line and read half a paragraph and then see how it works

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:22 AM

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i have, thats why I know its 23%

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:22 AM

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yes ireland has 23% VAT

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you dont pay VAT on VAT

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now im gonna go scream in the void or something

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:32 AM

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So...... do I wait for the 6A? :')

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:33 AM

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look at what you want and read what you actually need to pay for it instead of guessing

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:33 AM

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I didnt find out if they have an EU warehouse but apparently that is the final amount I pay on the order

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:34 AM

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unless it's like some company smaller than wooting you dont need to figure out if they have a eu warehouse...

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that's why laws exist on how to show what price

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:35 AM

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I recently learned that Valve have a warehouse in NL to ship hardware within the EU

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(Cause I was wondering if id get fucked by import tax for that one too.....)

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:36 AM

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yes and there you also did not need to find that out because the checkout/sales pages show you what you need to know

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the sentence below that is more important

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Applicable taxes will be presented at checkout or on the Device description page.

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like did you seriously think if you buy something they expect you to figure out where the warehouse is and otherwise you wont know what you end up paying????

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bruh

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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HAH

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Yeah, so it could happen

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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buffer overflow

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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@reef patrol maybe you have an easy link that makes it understandable for her

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bc I give up

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im legit getting mad

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:40 AM

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Ah, ok

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 12:44 AM

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wheat plume HAH

this doesnt even talk about pices but laws in terms of using it etc.

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Yeah.... im dumb

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thats an understatement

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 1:23 AM

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almost like you could just show what it is depending on where the ip comes from like any site does it for the european markets

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so hard to do /s

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then make it not legally binding till at checkout when you put your stuff in

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:47 AM

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🤔 I havent seen Linus' videos, so idk

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There is an AMD powered One XPlayer now :D Slightly better battery life but performance is limited by the TDP

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Speedy AF ram too, my gosh

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Does anyone have a link to a typing demonstration using Flaretech Clicky55 switches?

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How do they sound compared to MX-style clickjackets?

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Also can those be turned to linear switches by removing the clickleaf?

pale sigil Nov 28, 2021, 3:59 AM

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wheat plume There is an AMD powered One XPlayer now :D Slightly better battery life but perf...

Price tho?

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 4:17 AM

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hushed maple Does anyone have a link to a typing demonstration using Flaretech Clicky55 switc...

Probably just about the same

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 4:18 AM

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hushed maple Also can those be turned to linear switches by removing the clickleaf?

yes, although the stems are super fragile

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 4:18 AM

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hushed maple Also can those be turned to linear switches by removing the clickleaf?

You can remove the click element but they will create more wobble.

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 4:18 AM

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I wouldn't do it

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 4:22 AM

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I'm guessing the linear variant has no wobble?
Maybe the linear version might be better for me 🤔

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 4:25 AM

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nope

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they got plenty

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the issue is that the click jackets are actually a huge part of the stem for the clicky version

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so removing them is a major no no

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the linear stems for flaretechs are already pretty damn fragile as is

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that's a clicky flaretech

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orange bit is the click jacket

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remove it and you have a super thin stem with no side rails to ride in the housing and pretty thin extensions on an already pretty fragile switch stem (poor choice of materials imo)

neat oriole Nov 28, 2021, 4:34 AM

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wheat plume

I don’t think he’s trolling the Linux community, I think some Linux users just can’t stand the thought of someone who’s not a sysadmin using Linux not like how a sysadmin would

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 4:48 AM

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I mean...micropeen also makes a damn solid OS

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Linux just doesn't scratch the itch as well as windows-to-jump-out-of for what I do yet

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it's an OS you can game on...but not as well as windows

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:|

neat oriole Nov 28, 2021, 4:51 AM

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The thing is most of Linux is made for itself, and so of course a bunch of turbo nerds making software for more turbo nerds would result in the software being difficult to use for everyone else

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 4:58 AM

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^

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 4:59 AM

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shh

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I think we might actually have some linux users here

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and while they clearly don't have feelings to hurt, they'll annoy us to no end about shitting on their os

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dogekek

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 4:59 AM

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yeah I use Arch Linux and find LTT insulting 😉

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 5:00 AM

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crisp granite remove it and you have a super thin stem with no side rails to ride in the housi...

thanks for this info. Maybe I'll go with linears

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:00 AM

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hushed maple yeah I use Arch Linux and find LTT insulting 😉

LTT was always shits and giggles first, tech second

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blobaww

neat oriole Nov 28, 2021, 5:00 AM

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What are Linux users going to do?

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Write a script in the terminal?

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:00 AM

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cum onto their ISOs on their usb thumb drives and cry alone in bed

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for the 7,895th time

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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btw he says Model M keyboards are not mechanical because they use a membrane

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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xD

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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hushed maple btw he says Model M keyboards are not mechanical because they use a membrane

pepeno

neat oriole Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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The definition of mechanical is very loose

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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I would say "remove his testes"

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but...he's already got a vasectomy

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seriously though, as ares said

neat oriole Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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You could argue Hall effect isn’t mechanical

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:01 AM

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no real clear cut definition

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I like saying the yes/no question is hard bottom out or not

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 5:02 AM

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yeah. To me a keyboard is either good, bad, or somewhere in between

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:02 AM

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that includes membrane and PCB designs

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but...not floppy built boards like rubber domes

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 5:03 AM

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I'm open to using Topre since I heard it feels like BTC boards

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 5:03 AM

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...

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not really

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topre is a lot less tactile from what I've heard

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and on my super mushed out sample, they feel nothing like BTC

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:P

hushed maple Nov 28, 2021, 5:06 AM

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That's unfortunate. The high price for those make them feel not worth it

chrome estuary Nov 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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I like watching LTT when they do silly shit

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Like their server stuff that's worth thousands and thousands of dollars and shit like that

young pecan Nov 28, 2021, 8:16 AM

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@chrome estuary Also when they do something stupid like the original lambo video.

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Best lambo. wesmart

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:02 PM

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https://youtu.be/X3NYdlc8XgA

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this sounds expensive

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Ah Robo S7+

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Around 400$

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:02 PM

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nope

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its a grand

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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?

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Even with eurotax it's NOT a grand

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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wait

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Roborock is a Xiaomi brand?!

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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But Dreame Z10 Pro I think is a better product, and is a shit ton cheaper

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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wheat plume Roborock is a Xiaomi brand?!

Yes and no

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM

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o.o

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:04 PM

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They bought the brand

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But they don't develop it

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:04 PM

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ooohhh

cursive summit Nov 28, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Per se

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Check out Dreame Z10 Pro

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Dreame's also under Xiaomi family umbrella, but their products are high end for cheap prices

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I paid 428 on launch for that, but cancelled later, priorities changed

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Is it ok to charge a laptop while its powered off?

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I guess so

reef patrol Nov 28, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Yes of course. It has intelligent circuitry that turns off charging.

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Like phones, tables etc..

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 2:21 PM

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maybe the red led on the side will turn green when fully charged, idk for sure

misty saffron Nov 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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"if you want to avoid the heat up"

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damn this 0.01 amp draw really producing some heat

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Asus have an interesting way to get a dedicated numpad on their laptops

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you hold down the top corner of the touchpad and then you can use the touchpad like a number pad

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Probably not great to type on though

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And not a great mouse position either

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 3:45 PM

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its got the numpad printed on the touchpad to tell you where each number is

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its honestly not that bad

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the touch area to toggle it though is too far into the corner, its easy to think you pressed it but havent

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 3:49 PM

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wheat plume its honestly not that bad

I mean not fun typing on glass😛

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Yeah xd

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 4:55 PM

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empty wren I mean not fun typing on glass😛

I always type on phone dogekek

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 5:11 PM

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shadow minnow I always type on phone <:dogekek:846285268289323069>

Try typing a school essay on one

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 5:16 PM

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empty wren Try typing a school essay on one

You think I didn’t?

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Have same typing speed there as on normal kb, and actually it better with autocorrect.
Wrote even 10000 character stuff on my phone dogekek

ashen spindle Nov 28, 2021, 5:18 PM

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why would you use a numpad to type out an essay

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 5:20 PM

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ashen spindle why would you use a numpad to type out an essay

Talking about typing on glass

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 5:20 PM

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shadow minnow I always type on phone <:dogekek:846285268289323069>

Well if that sentence is anything to go by autocorrect is not helping you

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Not always dogekek

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 5:21 PM

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You said always thonk

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 5:21 PM

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empty wren You said always<:thonk:568526682110296066>

I mean it not always helps. But usually. But part of its correcting is correcting what phone kb misunderstood

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Oh

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 8:36 PM

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AirPods Pro we’re honestly probably my best tech purchase. I use them so much. And they costed lot less than some other stuff

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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shadow minnow AirPods Pro we’re honestly probably my best tech purchase. I use them so much. A...

idk mate

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my 2nd gen airpods are pretty solid

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also came free with my iPad

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👌

forest badger Nov 28, 2021, 8:41 PM

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shadow minnow AirPods Pro we’re honestly probably my best tech purchase. I use them so much. A...

Semi-agree. Their pretty great other than that if you have smaller ears like me you have to swap the tip.

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Good product tho.

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 8:41 PM

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crisp granite my 2nd gen airpods are pretty solid

For me AirPods Pro are quite solid too. Thing is, that atm don’t have any headset or normal speakers with me so I think that some days I use the AirPods even over 7 hours a day. Lot of time using just one at a time.

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 8:42 PM

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oh

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wow

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I don't use my airpods 2nd gen that long, and even then they start to get a bit uncomfortable

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:|

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if the airpods pro are that comfortable, to the point of you being able to wear them that long...solid purchase

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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First month one of my ears would sometimes start hurting after a while but now I am completely used to them

misty saffron Nov 28, 2021, 9:23 PM

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shadow minnow AirPods Pro we’re honestly probably my best tech purchase. I use them so much. A...

and when did you buy them

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people start hating them 6 months from buying usually

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I hate that Airpods dont have resizeable tips

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if they dont fit, you fucked

crisp granite Nov 28, 2021, 9:24 PM

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well, they do, on the pro

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and replacement tips are a thing

wheat plume Nov 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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yeah, but thats a whole lot more money

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I reboot my computer and now this pops up

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wtf??

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 9:32 PM

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wheat plume yeah, but thats a whole lot more money

Well yeah but now they can go for around 200€, and for extra noise cancelation transparency mode and Dolby atmos it’s nice

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 9:32 PM

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misty saffron and when did you buy them

Almost a year ago now

shadow minnow Nov 28, 2021, 9:32 PM

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misty saffron people start hating them 6 months from buying usually

Why?

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 9:40 PM

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wheat plume wtf??

It wants you to unlock the potential of the O-Men secret society

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:17 PM

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They gotta make money some how

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They do not make much from hardware sales

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Anyone know whats a really fast mouse for gaming

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Probably razer 8k

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Thats what i was looking at by i dont know what the debounce time is

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Denounce means time to because delay a signal

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To get a clean one

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Razer 8k has optical switches meaning no microvibrations make a difference

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That reminds me g502

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:22 PM

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The only problem is that the Razer 8k is kind of small for me but thats the case with most mouses so ill probably buy it thanks

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Well honestly

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Its also 50% off on amazon

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Use whatever you want

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If you are good with one shape who cares if it is optical or not

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The issue is when there is double clicking which hinders the ability to perform well

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Unless you are a professional player probably will not matter if it is the fastest mouse

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Even then you reach diminishing returns

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:24 PM

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I'm a competitive player i got some earnings in costume tournaments and wagers

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Cough cough logitech

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Ya my friend has the razer 8k and his discord always bugs out cause of the double clicking

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and just how fast and responsive it is

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:26 PM

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It cannot double click

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Or should not

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Ever I should say

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Being responsive does not mean it would double click

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Well he does use Double click like the app but i was going to use it too for Minecraft

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do Get a decent amount of cps

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:29 PM

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If you want butterfly click with it

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Good luck that is impossible

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:29 PM

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Drag

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it works with tape

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I do also butterfly thats why i asked about the double click

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Oh

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Will drag clicking work

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Most likely not

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Because that abuse of mouse switches

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Is just causing a ton of vibrations

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If you do not believe me

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:31 PM

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no i believe u

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Oh okay then

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The optical switches were partially designed to combat double clicking behavior

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:32 PM

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My T16 causes alot oi vibrations too for some reason

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Its a very old mouse thats why i was looking for another mouse

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:32 PM

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If you want to abuse the mouse switches

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Asus has hotswappable microswitch mouse

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That way if they end up dying you easily remove em, only issue might be the shape

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Ill use the Razer 8k for Fortnite and other games while using My T16 for Minecraft

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Well alright then

night beacon Nov 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Thanks

pale sigil Nov 28, 2021, 10:50 PM

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TIL nvidia has a streaming service thing in geforce experience

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And with a 3rd party app can use it on any device

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Like steam link

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Works with moonlight too

pale sigil Nov 28, 2021, 11:00 PM

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@empty wren that's what I'm testing

empty wren Nov 28, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Ah

pale sigil Nov 28, 2021, 11:00 PM

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old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 AM

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empty wren Asus has hotswappable microswitch mouse

They debounce too much

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Just get corsair katar pros

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They are cheap

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Do no debounce whatsoever with a software setting

latent mural Nov 29, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Will everything including the rgb effects on the wooting two he and 60 he work with any custom usb c keyboard cable?

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So this would be fine

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https://swiftcables.net/products/good-old-blue

SwiftCables

Good Old Blue

Featuring Blue Electric paracords with Black Techflex creates a dark glowing blue effects around the cable

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?

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Because they say something on swift cables about power consumption for rgb on drop alt and ctrl keyboards not working… so I hope this wouldn’t have those issues

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yeah

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hmm

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well

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Thanks for ur help

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Or expensive

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Even then there probably won’t be 2m version, but we will see

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 9:46 AM

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The other option is always just running a normal cable that isn't coiled for no reason. WeSmart

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Tbh I'd have to say between the nice looking coiled cable and running it through the desk for a sleek af look, I'd choose sleek.

pale sigil Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 AM

#

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🧊

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can tell its winter

reef patrol Nov 29, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Nice and cool.

pale sigil Nov 29, 2021, 10:06 AM

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reef patrol Nice and cool.

the fuck are you doing

reef patrol Nov 29, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Playing FF14. This is cool for my loop.

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During summer that coolant is a good ten-fifteen degrees higher.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:16 PM

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That's cool af

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I really need to invest in proper cooling

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:24 PM

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wheat plume I really need to invest in proper cooling

Immersion cooling. WeSmart

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It's pretty cheap as well if you DIY it.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Immersion?!

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Use Bitcool or something and it'd cost maybe 500 USD to liquid cool the entire PC.

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:24 PM

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wheat plume Immersion?!

Yeah.

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Use a dielectric fluid.

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Just dip the entire PC. LUL

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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O.o

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That's scary

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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Nah.

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Really harmless.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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How do you attach new drives or replace the GPU then?
Got to take it out and wait for it to dry?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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Here's a pic of an IC boiling away a 2 phase liquid.

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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wheat plume How do you attach new drives or replace the GPU then? Got to take it out and wai...

Take the shrouds and stuff off and any plastic you can, then just attach the component as normal.

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Like literally speaking immersion cooling does not require fans in some cases.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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young pecan Here's a pic of an IC boiling away a 2 phase liquid.

Ooooo

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

#

Yeee

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For 2 phase systems you wanna grab the vapor and condense it down into liquid again then pump it back through.

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The benefit being you don't bother with coolers since the component just boils away the liquid.

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You'd be at a very stable near ambient temp all the time.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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But that means it gets hot enough to boil

Oh wait

What's the boiling point of this liquid?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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wheat plume But that means it gets hot enough to boil Oh wait What's the boiling point of ...

Basically nothing.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Ahhh

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Like 40 degrees.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Oop

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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60 or so.

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Basically you want the boiling point as low as you can get so only the PC components boil it off. :p

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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I can imagine trying to move your PC
"Got to wait about an hour for my PC to dry!"

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Nah.

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Just drain out the fluid and move the box.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:29 PM

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Ahh

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:29 PM

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https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/303936-coolbitts-launches-2450-pc-immersion-cooling-kit

ExtremeTech

CoolBitts Launches $2450 PC Immersion Cooling Kit - ExtremeTech

Immersion cooling manufacturer CoolBitts thinks there might be a market for immersion cooling systems at the ultra-high-end.

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This for example.

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It's overpriced as all fuck, you could do it for WAY cheaper.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:29 PM

#

Wait wait....

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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But that's just a kit you build in as normal then pour your liquid.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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That's just the cooling.....

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Yep.

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But overpriced.

#

I have an immersion prototype for my ASICs and it's like 3 grand to cool 12 ASICs.

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For a single PC you could accomplish the feat for about 500 USD if you DIY.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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O.o

Screenshot_2021-11-29-12-30-46-275_com.android.chrome.jpg

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Pump, case, heat exchanger, etc.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

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500 just for the liquid

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Nah.

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Depends on the liquid you wanna be using.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Hmm ok

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

#

Bitcool is like 140 for 20 gallons.

#

Novec is about 20 grand for that much. LUL

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Also the best part of this kind of cooling is that it's dead silent.

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Nothing makes noise, not even coil whine.

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The only thing making any sound is the fan attached to the external radiator and that can be very quiet.

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30db.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Ooo

wheat oar Nov 29, 2021, 12:33 PM

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🤔

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:33 PM

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I've been really heavy into immersion recently. LUL

wheat oar Nov 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

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This is what I want

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https://youtu.be/UCT8nyGx3xQ

YouTube

Basically Homeless

I Turned a Fridge Into a Gaming PC

This is the World's FASTEST Gaming Mini Fridge - $10,000 RTX 3090 Custom Liquid Cooled Mini Fridge PC LOL. Sombody had to do it 🤷
In this video I build the ultimate mini fridge PC and then play minecraft at 1086 FPS.

Enter to WIN
3080 ti Gaming PC
Gfuel branded Mini Fridge
12 month supply of GFUEL
Enter here - https://micro.center/5874e2

Us...

▶ Play video

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

#

...

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Why?

wheat oar Nov 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Looks cool I guess

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Hmm

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:34 PM

#

Agreed.

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But I think you could do better with immersion.

#

Literally just immersion cool it and have it in a closed 2 phase system.

#

Boiling liquid on the CPU and GPU, it'd sound lovely. :D

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

#

How you hook up Ethernet?

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Just plug it in and dip?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Basically.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Oop

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Dielectric fluid doesn't conduct electricity at all.

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There's no real danger of shorting.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:36 PM

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So... In terms of the components
It's not there?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:36 PM

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?

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:36 PM

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What if it gets into the cable?

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Like one came loose or whatever

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:37 PM

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shrugs Dip the cable into isopropyl 100% and wash it out.

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Once you leave it to dry it'll be fine to use elsewhere.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:37 PM

#

O

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

Such good cooling as well.

#

A mate of mine runs immersion cooled datacenters and we're talking thousands of GPUs.

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From his reports they all run within a few degrees and float near 20c all the time.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Wwwow

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Ikr.

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Rooms run at 8c, cards are overclocked and run stable at 20c.

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Just for massive scale compute applications.

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And all of the cooling happens in an external building.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Wat

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:39 PM

#

Yeh.

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It's a liquid to liquid heat exchanger.

halcyon moss Nov 29, 2021, 12:40 PM

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latent heat

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:40 PM

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So all the pipes are routed to another building

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Interesting

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:40 PM

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Kinda.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:40 PM

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That reminds me of what AntVenom does on his computer but a much much larger scale

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:41 PM

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So the coolant goes into liquid to liquid heat exchangers and transfers the heat to water, the water runs in a basic radiator loop.

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All entirely enclosed.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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His computer stays on the floor
He has a water cooling loop in his computer and the radiator and pump are in the basement
So the pipes go through the floor

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Yeah kinda.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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So that way he doesn't hear any noise

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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The difference being that the rigs are submerged and the pipes lead into a different building into a liquid to liquid heat exchanger.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:43 PM

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That's freaking wild

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:43 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Immersion_Cooling/comments/7ukmvx/walk_around_video_of_the_immersion_cooled/

r/Immersion_Cooling - Walk around video of the immersion cooled ins...

37 votes and 17 comments so far on Reddit

▶ Play video

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Here's a video of a custom tub for 36 ASICs.

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Wild as fuck.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Oo

#

Also....
Is "Linus Proof" becoming a metric now?! :')

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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wheat plume Also.... Is "Linus Proof" becoming a metric now?! :')

Good seal of approval. LUL

pulsar lantern Nov 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

#

The linux challenge is actually doing good things for linux lol

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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:')
They make a badge for it also like the Intel Inside stickers

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Start putting it on distros that Linus can use

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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pulsar lantern The linux challenge is actually doing good things for linux lol

Fuck ikr.

#

Really needs to be less of a cluster fuck platform.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Yeah
I wish all the devs worked on one singular amazing OS

Rather than making 3 thousands new distros each week

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Like... Imagine how many more people would use Linux if when you install Ubuntu it just has a bunch of presets you choose from.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Not even windows has that

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Install it and get some basic presets for UX, presets for commonly used apps, and you're done.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

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And people use it fine

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

#

I'd use Linux right fucking now if I had that.

#

Fuck Windows.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

#

Once you've set Linux up the way you want
Then you don't need to do anything anymore

#

Especially if you use window managers and cli apps
You can just clone your GitHub repo , run the script and everything is how you want it to be

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Sure but that's utter cancer.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:51 PM

#

Yep xd

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:52 PM

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I don't use an OS to use cancer. LUL

#

If I wanted that I'd use Proxmox on my home PC.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:52 PM

#

Tbh
Plasma and gnome desktops are mostly decent for new users
It's the underlaying system of installing apps and doing updates that mess with people mostly

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Or the shitty app names plasma uses

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

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See, that beginning sentence is where Linux fails.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Who's going to know "gwenview" is an image viewer
Or "Falkon" is a browser?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Multiple desktops in general confuse the fuck out of people.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

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That's why distros come with one

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

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And the clusterfuck of Distros doesn't make it better.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:53 PM

#

Yeah ... Too much

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

Mint/Ubuntu/Pop/Arch/Debian/Redhat/Kali/Proxmox(which is secretly Debian)...

#

I've used all of those before and they're equally shit.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:54 PM

#

I really like the arch based distros though
Majority of those actually do bring something unique to the table

#

And the immutable spin of Fedora is really freaking neat

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Fantastic powerful softwire, but god fucking damnit it's such a shitty time actually using them.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:55 PM

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That's why I ignore everything that isn't Arch, Arco and PopOs

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:55 PM

#

No OS should have the same pickup time that Runescape 3 does. OMEGALUL

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

I also look into fedora to see what's up with that but I've never used it

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

Ngl I do really want a windows/linux hybrid.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

The same way I look into MacOS to see what's new with that but will never buy an Apple product unless they become decently priced

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

#

young pecan Ngl I do really want a windows/linux hybrid.

Specifically something that isn't Wine or WSL.

#

LUL

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

How'd that work?

#

You'd have one DE
But what about package management? How would that work?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

shrugs I'd just run a super basic hypervisor that houses Windows and a Linux distro of choice.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

Would you need to go hunt down exe files online?

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

#

Literally just have 'slots' for different OSes in a way that isn't utterly cancerous.

#

Looking at you, Proxmox.

#

The tech is there, just nobody made a UX for it yet.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:58 PM

#

I've been thinking of getting an SSD hotswap bay
Have windows on one SSD, linux on the other and only have the one I wanna use plugged into the computer

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:58 PM

#

Personally I'd love it if somebody made maybe Proxmox but it's Ubuntu instead of Debian and has a decent UX and wiki.

#

Debian 10 causes Proxmox more issues than it solves.

reef patrol Nov 29, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Who hotswaps these days, except to change out longterm storage drives 😄

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Cause fuck dual booting .-.

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 12:59 PM

#

Dual booting is easy?

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 12:59 PM

#

Dual booting is only a problem if it involves windows because if windows does a version upgrade, then byebye bootloader

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 1:00 PM

#

True.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:00 PM

#

I can't update to 21H1 without fear of getting my dual boot destroyed

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 1:00 PM

#

Have Grub manage it?

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:00 PM

#

Yeah
Grub is handling it
But windows will destroy that

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

#

Huh.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

#

It tends to override the boot partition with it's own bootloader

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

#

Weird.

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

#

You know.
Microsoft's insistent to be the only OS on the system and all that

#

My friend has managed to reinstall windows entirely without it fucking up grub

#

Idk how

#

He also has two drives dual boot

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Lol still fearing that

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:03 PM

#

I asked him how's he doing that without windows overriding anything

#

He just said it just happened that way

#

I call BS

#

The last time it fucked up
I just saw windows boot manager in my bios
With no sign of my Linux boot option anywhere to be seen

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 1:04 PM

#

my laptop dual boot runs without issues too

#

updated yesterday and nothing broke

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:04 PM

#

Hmm

#

My other friends had the same issue as me

#

They all did except that one guy

#

If it was easy for me to remove the Linux drive while windows updates
Then maybe

#

But it's an m.2 drive
And grub is on there so it would need to be in the system to boot into windows and then removed while the system is on

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:13 PM

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inb4 lana just shotgun deleted all partitions during the install

reef patrol Nov 29, 2021, 1:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pew-pew-pew-finger-guns-jake-adventure-time-gif-16206356

Tenor

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:21 PM

#

fair gull inb4 lana just shotgun deleted all partitions during the install

No
Only the ones on the drive I want to install windows on
Which already had windows installed on it

#

So yeah
No Linux partitions on that drive

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:22 PM

#

inb4 that means you nuked your ESP

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:23 PM

#

Hmm....

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:24 PM

#

EFI System Partition

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:28 PM

#

How do I install windows without nuking that?

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Just don't nuke it

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

In the windows installer
It only lets you install if you remove all partitions and make a new empty one

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:32 PM

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I don't think that's true but ok

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:32 PM

#

thats not true

#

it only asks for a partition big enough

#

prepartitioned or not

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

I've never been able to continue without removing all partitions

#

It just tells me windows can't be installed on any one I selected

#

Even the one it's currently installed on

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:33 PM

#

thonk

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anyway i bet my 2 balls u made a mistake in the installer

#

cause windows itself doesnt remove partitions

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

Hmm
Worth updating to 11?

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

no

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:34 PM

#

I should still update to 21H2 though

#

Cause security shit

#

I think I'm on 20H1

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:35 PM

#

so

#

u just installed windows

#

with an ancient setup drive

#

thats like installing debian jessie in 2021 when u want debian bullseye

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:36 PM

#

It was the newest version when I got this computer

#

And I tried upgrading from within system settings and it broke my dual boot

#

So I reinstalled windows and Linux

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:38 PM

#

since windows doesnt even touch efi boot partitions when uprading idk how that would work

#

also why not just fix the efi boot partition

#

no magic in setting up the bootloader on it

#

and pointing it to the right drives

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:40 PM

#

How?
It completely removed my Linux drive from showing up on bios
Meaning I didn't have access to grub and the system only booted to windows

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:41 PM

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so u use a linux live cd/usb

#

and check the linux drive

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:42 PM

#

Hmm

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:43 PM

#

if it doesnt show up in bios either the drive is dead or the efi partition is somehow wrong/broken

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:44 PM

#

Yes
Latter

#

And it does show up on windows device manager

#

And if I live boot

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:47 PM

#

so just fix it

#

no magic really

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:47 PM

#

Idk why grub says windows boot manager is on an nvme drive

#

It's on my 2.5 SSD

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

prob cause the efi partition is on the nvme now

#

the boot partition isnt the C partition

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:48 PM

#

Idk why it would
Unless windows invades other drives without you telling it to in the installer

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

it uses efi partitions if u have one

#

like any efi based os does

#

including ur precious linux

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:49 PM

#

It seems to only have 1 partition

#

idk what the ext4 one is....

#

maybe from the time I tried to automount my steam library onto this drive

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:50 PM

#

i mean

#

the label clearly says steamgames

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

my m.2 linux drive

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

literally labeled as ESP flagged

#

so obviously any uefi capable os just plants their bootlaoder there

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

then how I setup dual boot so that windows is only one the drive I want it to?

#

or windows doent install a bootloader and let grub handle it

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

How will you boot Windows without its loader?

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

then how I tell it not to use this drive?

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

u install it onto another part or use the windows stick and open a terminal and then use bcdboot to attach it to the end of the efi boot config

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or u just read on how to setup grub with win

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if u use the windows stick and the partition with the windows folder is for example h:

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ud run bcdboot h:\\windows /s s: /f uefi /l en-us /d /addlast

#

this assume the efi part is mounted to s:

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:55 PM

#

it seems my storage drive has a reserved part too???

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:55 PM

#

thats windows 16mb part for idk what

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:55 PM

#

hmmmm

#

My games drive doesnt have one, which is good but strange

#

it has 1mb of unallocated space though...wtf

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 1:57 PM

#

thats normal

#

most os partition managers leave a tiny bit at the end

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ahh ok

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so, both windows and linux bootloaders are both on this part?

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Yes that's how UEFI works

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 2:00 PM

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literally made so u dont have 200boot partitions

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but 1

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Unless I use a distro that lets you decide where GRUB goes, then maybe it could work

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 2:12 PM

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no?

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cause grub would make an esp part

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uefi is made to have at best 1 boot part for all the OSs on a system

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Must find out how to reinstall an OS without affecting anything then

young pecan Nov 29, 2021, 2:14 PM

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jUst WrItE a NeW BooTLoADeR aND BiOs DeSiGN.

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WeSmart

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 2:15 PM

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:')

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🤔

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restoring grub is not what I need, I need to make it show up in BIOS again

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 2:27 PM

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that is restoring grub

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if u install grub it also overrides the mbr

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literally like windows

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 2:33 PM

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But also that's only relevant if you're doing legacy MBR shit which you aren't

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 2:33 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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i never had issues with my win/linix setup

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granted

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i use wsl and it works just as good

fickle ore Nov 29, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Wait

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SN 850 WD black was the good ssd? How is SN750

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 3:46 PM

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fair gull that is restoring grub

That is so annoying if you want to get rid of it.

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 3:50 PM

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i mean just use wsl?

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it does the exact same

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cause its literally just linux in a hyperv thin vm

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except x11 can redirect to normal windows

chrome estuary Nov 29, 2021, 5:10 PM

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wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 7:30 PM

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https://youtu.be/nmOpFkzpwB4?t=143

YouTube

Steamworks Development

Steam Input

Steam Deck controls are a superset of XInput, so many developers won't need to do anything to get their game working on Deck. However, as programmer Scott Dalton shares, we've added powerful new controls to Steam Deck that some devs may find are even better options for their games.

Documents Scott mentions in his talk:

Best practices for Steam...

▶ Play video

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Valve mention simultaneous KB&M and gamepad input

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 7:40 PM

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not all games support full steam input tho

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i think it will become more and more when steam deck is out

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since it basically relies on it

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:04 PM

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fair gull it does the exact same

I just need to get a graphical interface on it

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:05 PM

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empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Is that... A mobile soc

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Steam Deck!

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Or is a handheld one

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Oh

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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So technically

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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van gogh

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old data

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:08 PM

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88GB/s RAM bandwidth

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DAMMMNNNNNN

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1GB VRAM seems real small....

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:09 PM

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it's unified

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:16 PM

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The built in speakers have a dedicated AMP and DSP

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idek what a DSP is

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BlueTooth 5
They saying BT headphones + several controllers at once

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Digital sound processor

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Digital signal processor

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Since everything is digital in terms of a computer

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:19 PM

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This is a funky looking prototype
I like it, maybe....idk

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it has circular touchpads instead of square..... interesting

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whyd they change to square?

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:19 PM

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More space duh

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:20 PM

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wheat plume 88GB/s RAM bandwidth

I have 200 dogekek
Not 400 though 😦

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Seems the SD card wont be too much slower than the SSD

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:20 PM

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empty wren More space duh

Also could just be one of few prototypes

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:21 PM

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wheat plume Seems the SD card wont be too much slower than the SSD

Depends on as card as well

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:21 PM

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wheat plume 1GB VRAM seems real small....

Yeah sounds strange

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:21 PM

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But there are good ones out there now

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:21 PM

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wheat plume The built in speakers have a dedicated AMP and DSP

Without those you get very quiet white noise

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:22 PM

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ooohh

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:22 PM

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shadow minnow Yeah sounds strange

no it's just the same as consoles

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:22 PM

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That is like people saying "DACs are bad for delay"

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When you mobo has a dac onboard to even generate sound at all

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:23 PM

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ashen spindle no it's just the same as consoles

But I mean, 1gb vram, is that like separate extra or why is it mentioned if memory unified

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Together

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:23 PM

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it just means 1gb is reserved minimum

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:23 PM

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in tandem

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Oh, well, way they said it is strange imo

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:24 PM

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no it's normal lana is just posting it without further info xD

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Also memory speeds

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Yeah honestly for a second was not even sure what is it about but noticed now dogekek

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:25 PM

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just like nobody uses memory bandwidth like that so the 88GB/s dont really mean something lmao

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Well for VRAM it may matter a bit

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Valve could make a demo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:27 PM

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well yeah it matters for vram, but do do you from top of your head know what the bandwith of a 3080 for example is? xD

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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a wut

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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ashen spindle well yeah it matters for vram, but do do you from top of your head know what the...

Not directed to me but was it not like 3XXGBps

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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👀

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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ashen spindle well yeah it matters for vram, but do do you from top of your head know what the...

400-800 range afaik, would guess like 650

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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it's like >700

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Just know it’s in higher hundreds

empty wren Nov 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Ah

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760

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Wouldn’t know usually but know M1 max has 400 and 3080 almost double

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:30 PM

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but just shows my point it's not part of the usual points of data so just pointing out 88gbs doesnt show anything xD

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Btw

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If it tries to load a texture or something into vram

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Does it load it into reg ram

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To then load it from ram to ram

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For it to be in the vram

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:30 PM

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it's the same as consoles or an APU

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the ram is the vram

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Ye ik

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But does it do direct storage

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Or just attach the loaded section to vram

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Or does it have to load the texture to reg ram

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:31 PM

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uhh good question

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:31 PM

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And then load it to the separated vram section from there

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Yeah, hopefully direct storage. I think M1 is direct storage but no idea about steam deck

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:32 PM

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yes the M1 definitely has MICROSOFT direct storage

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I mean direct storage as in way ram and vram is addressed

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Just don’t know the exact name or how to call it so said direct storage

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:33 PM

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wheat plume Seems the SD card wont be too much slower than the SSD

we already knew that since valve let people play test but didnt tell em which games where installed on sd or internal

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:33 PM

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see the part that annoys me is that you just randomly guess about things when it comes to apple and assume m1s have it xD

nimble canopy Nov 29, 2021, 8:34 PM

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i would guess it firsts loads it in to ram than copys it over to ram again
becous as far as i know the direct storage is prety new
and if you dint want to the copy you would have to check if it is unified ram then not do the extra copy

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:34 PM

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ashen spindle see the part that annoys me is that you just randomly guess about things when it...

BuT aPpLe Is ThE bEsT

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:34 PM

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No I think I have heard in apple presentation sth along the lines of M1 behaving that way, that’s why I called it direct storage

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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so you're guessing

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I am extremely tired basically

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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so guessing

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yo but for real my 3ds has direct storage

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i think

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I literally said I think M1 has direct storage, not that it has it

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:37 PM

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maybe

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:37 PM

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And that’s because I think I have heard it. For real and I think is a small difference

nimble canopy Nov 29, 2021, 8:37 PM

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and from my very limitid experience vulkan there are at least 2 types of buffers 1 that can be bound to cpu mem and one that cant
the one that cant has faster access but the only way of geting in data is by copying it from a other buffer in vram
so what coud happen is
disk -> mem -> mem -> mam

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:38 PM

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u sure they didnt make tiny screws that didnt exist before or smth

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:38 PM

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hm I cant find anything on it but my guess would be that it pulls it from ram onto another part that is saved as vram part at the time so yes, moves it around inside the ram

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 8:38 PM

#

until it goes mam

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then u know it wants a fedora

#

as long as it only speaks of the manager

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its fine

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:42 PM

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hmm ok based on the CUDA website unified memory seems to be able to be addressed by both gpu and cpu without moving things around it seems

#

so it does not need to get moved if I understand this correctly

shadow minnow Nov 29, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Sounds good

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:43 PM

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for performance it wont matter anyway as it would just be a simple memcopy anyway

#

bc while it does sound like an advantage at first, do keep in mind regular RAM is much slower than vram

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and ram used as such wont reach the same bandwidth

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:56 PM

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ashen spindle hmm ok based on the CUDA website unified memory seems to be able to be addressed...

That seems like a security fault

#

pepeThonk

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:56 PM

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lmao no it doesnt mean you can access it without restrictions

old marlin Nov 29, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Ye obv

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But it makes the target larger

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 8:57 PM

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ehh not really?

#

I guess you could say something that only works on gpu usually can now affect cpu ram maybe

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but that goes both ways so it's a wash

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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y u gotta be so mad? it is game console

#

typical immutable file system hater

cursive summit Nov 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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I also hate Linux file system, so fuck you

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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🤔

cursive summit Nov 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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When I literally just used it for statistical computing

#

I keep giving that damn ass OS a try and it keeps sucking

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ok but as the name says file system is not the operating system

#

but I also dont get what we should get from a random youtube comment that is just nonsense

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 9:30 PM

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My RGB strip stopped working booted to Linux for some reason

#

It was working fine for the first 2 days

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Anyone here very familiar with (commandline) WINE? 😂

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 9:51 PM

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doubt you'll find someone here, what are you looking for?

#

sounds quite exotic

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:51 PM

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I need to find a way to change the ip it detects from 127.0.0.1 to a set one 😂

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it is quite exotic XD

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 9:52 PM

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have you tried

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sudo apt-get install WINDOWS-VM?

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Not sure that would even work on what I am doing tbh

#

I was hoping there is some stupid startup flag I can give wine to listen on a local ip, instead of the 127.0.0.1 crap

ashen spindle Nov 29, 2021, 9:54 PM

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hmm yeah I could only randomly guess and that wouldn't help, gl

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sign-of-the-cross-thanks-im-gonna-need-it-gif-14743277

Tenor

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 9:55 PM

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iirc thats a wine limitation

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:55 PM

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ffs, this is why linux is failing to take hold of gaming 😛

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 9:56 PM

#

i think

#

some people had success in sudo-ing wine

#

so it has access to all sockets

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https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Failed_to_use_ICMP_.28network_ping.29.2C_this_requires_special_permissions

FAQ

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and that

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 9:57 PM

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I am going to try overwrite the LO interface and see what happens 😂

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 9:57 PM

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the only 2 things i can think of rn

#

basically

#

either sudo

#

or give the user the perms for raw sockets

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so it can icmp ping

#

so ya no dont overwrite the lo interface

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just fix perms

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:00 PM

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fair gull the only 2 things i can think of rn

Honestly, I am at a loss with whatever you said 😂

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:00 PM

#

how

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either you use sudo

#

to run as root

#

or u open the faq and configure it as it states

#

so ur user has permissions to use raw sockets to send/receive ip packets

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:00 PM

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tried the sudo method, still uses 127.0.0.1

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

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did u check ipconfig

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Yeps

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

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it fetches an ip?

#

or only lo

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

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only lo

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

#

default wine install

#

or some special sauce

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

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default wine

#

in docker, but still just wine

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:02 PM

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well gl then

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:02 PM

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😂 oh boy

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ure already fucking with 2 NATs then

#

if docker is in the mix

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Oh, there is much more than that, if you count them all

#

😂 but only one is at fault atm

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:02 PM

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just use kvm at that point

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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I would if I could

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Thonk

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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So many limits to my setup here, so it will be a challenge

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:04 PM

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so u can use docker

#

but not kvm

#

and for some reason the app only exists on windows

#

and is wine compatible

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Well, its not exactly wine compatible, a lot of duct tape is being used

#

and yes, lazy devs do not always code server stuff for linux 😂

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:05 PM

#

https://discordjs.moe/db2wphwhl79y.png

#

even wsl wine gets an ip properly

#

im actually unsure if ur wine install is complete/undamaged

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:06 PM

#

        inet 172.18.0.5  netmask 255.255.0.0  broadcast 172.18.255.255
        inet6 fdba:17c8:6c94::4  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x0<global>
        inet6 fe80::42:acff:fe12:5  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
        ether 02:42:ac:12:00:05  txqueuelen 0  (Ethernet)
        RX packets 3  bytes 306 (306.0 B)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 2  bytes 196 (196.0 B)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 65536
        inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
        inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10<host>
        loop  txqueuelen 1000  (Local Loopback)
        RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0```
if you want the output of ifconfig -a

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:06 PM

#

bruh

#

wine ipconfig

#

the ifconfig doesnt say shit

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:06 PM

#

😂 ok one sec

#


    Connection-specific DNS suffix. . :
    IPv4 address. . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
    IPv6 address. . . . . . . . . . . : ::1
    Default gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter eth0

    Connection-specific DNS suffix. . : lan
    IPv4 address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.0.5
    IPv6 address. . . . . . . . . . . : fdba:17c8:6c94::4
    IPv6 address. . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::42:acff:fe12:5%63
    Default gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.0.1```

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:07 PM

#

so it fetches an ip

#

and i assume wine ping google.de

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doesnt ping google

#

https://discordjs.moe/f15dqracem4b.png

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should look smth like that

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:07 PM

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PING: transmit failed. General failure

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:07 PM

#

can docker ping?

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Yeah

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

#

k u ran wine as sudo or normal user

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

#

under docker, you get root permissions by default, so sudo is not there

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

#

weird cause

#

i only get ping failure as non root

#

https://discordjs.moe/njry8qcq45cp.png

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Yeah, the sudo part is not the issue within docker, as root is default, to my knowledge

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:15 PM

#

maybe try setcap cap_net_raw+epi /usr/bin/wine-stable

#

and then retry pinging

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

#

unable to set CAP_SETFCAP effective capability: Operation not permitted

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

#

ure not root

#

def

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

#

Let me see, as sudo does not work 100%

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:17 PM

#

su root

#

or well somewhere in ur weird docker script RUN setcap cap_net_raw+epi /usr/bin/wine-stable

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

#

Well, ran it, nothing appeared

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

#

the setcap?

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

#

Yeps

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

#

nothigns supposed to appear if it worked

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

Oh good 😂

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

the best outcome would be u can run wine now

#

and ping google

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

Nopes

PING: transmit failed. General failure.
PING: transmit failed. General failure.```

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

#

eh then stay in root

#

i mean

#

its a docker image

#

whats the worst that could happen

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

#

well, I did su root wine ping google.de

#

nothing came up, which is fun

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

#

su root

#

then wine

#

su just switches users

#

switch user

#

su

crimson wigeon Nov 29, 2021, 10:21 PM

#

Have you thought that containers are meant to only have as much privilege as needed, so you might have to figure out how to allow the container to do this stuff

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:21 PM

#

well according to docker themselves setcap

#

evidentally it doesnt work

#

unless

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:22 PM

#

crimson wigeon Have you thought that containers are meant to only have as much privilege as nee...

ducttape always works

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:22 PM

#

fair gull su root

Yep, still nope

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:26 PM

#

what wine version are u on anyway

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:28 PM

#

6.0

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:28 PM

#

oh

#

well

#

then u need setcap cap_net_raw+epi /usr/bin/wine-preloader

#

iirc

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:29 PM

#

ran

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:29 PM

#

pray wine can ping

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:29 PM

#

wanna go for a guess? 😂

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

#

still a no?

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

#

Yeps, shamefully

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

#

ngl idk whats wrong then

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

#

yeah, I dont blame you

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

#

i assume wine-preloader is in there

#

sudo setcap cap_net_raw+epi "$(readlink -f "/usr/bin/wine-preloader")"

#

that would be the ultra safe way

#

should it be a link of some sort

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

#

I am going to log into the container and see whats going on in the files, and have some fun

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

#

i removed my wine4 and installed 6 now to make sure

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

#

whats the worst that can happen XD

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

#

and ya preloader is all thats needed

#

its def the cap_net_raw perms

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

#

slowly wanting to kill wine XD

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

#

i mean

#

thats why u use vms

spiral belfry Nov 29, 2021, 10:36 PM

#

That is my last resort

#

XD

#

actually, fuck it

#

wine sucks 😂

#

Thanks anyway @fair gull and @ashen spindle ❤️

fair gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:39 PM

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dont mention it

wheat plume Nov 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

#

I think the crackling noise I hear when my laptop is powered on, is an uninsulated cable palced too close to the wifi module

#

the same thing is happening to another device, that im watching a review for

gilded oriole Nov 30, 2021, 2:50 AM

#

yo any suggestions for studio headphones

#

my hifiman he 400i's didn't last a damn year

oak ember Nov 30, 2021, 3:24 AM

#

I've been watching videos on the keyboard. It got me thinking. You know the steam deck? Have you ever seen steam input? There's a video talking about how games can become very rebind-able by thinking in actions instead of controls. Because the steam controller didn't take off and cause aim assist hasn't been removed... (for the pvp scene) Plenty of games don't support simultaneous analogue and digital input. Which means if people optimize games for the steam deck, then there probably will be more support for that.
so wooting 2 he, swiftpoint z, and steam deck are going to be the "dream team".

true quest Nov 30, 2021, 3:25 AM

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planning on using the 60he as input for the deck

#

still looking for a mouse

oak ember Nov 30, 2021, 3:25 AM

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dream cause of price lol

true quest Nov 30, 2021, 3:25 AM

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i could buy 20 of each lol

oak ember Nov 30, 2021, 3:26 AM

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idk if the swiftpoint will beat this budget mmo mouse. less buttons with extra buttons on both sides of mouse vs having an easy to access numpad for hotbars

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ive gotten so used to using it for number keys, ended up stop using those keys. recently got a keyboard that can be rebindable (woo also got it today)

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didn't want to get it cause want to get woot instead. but it was on sale during black friday so my dad wanted to get one for him and I.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmpxbAOXc1A
So gonna save up for the mouse first then the woot. You should prob check out the mouse. it's similar technology as the wooting (cause it's analogue lol)

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https://www.swiftpoint.com/products/gaming-mice-swiftpoint-z

oak ember Nov 30, 2021, 7:02 AM

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nvm

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 12:27 PM

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RGB chair....

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with the most uncomfy looking arm rests

pulsar lantern Nov 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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I have arm rests similar to those. They're fine

timid chasm Nov 30, 2021, 2:34 PM

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The sides will eventually crack if it's used regularly. Memory foam overlay replacements are the way to go, imo

reef patrol Nov 30, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Ah yes. IKEA - but for PC cases.

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Also with more work.

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Oh no arguments there. I don't like how much you have to bend though.

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Dmitry's bends are awful.

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empty wren Nov 30, 2021, 8:08 PM

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reef patrol Dmitry's bends are awful.

Well he is not a sheet metal gadget

reef patrol Nov 30, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Doesn't matter. He's a techie consumer. So if he fails at this, who won't.

empty wren Nov 30, 2021, 8:13 PM

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reef patrol Doesn't matter. He's a techie consumer. So if he fails at this, who won't.

A artist, a person who has a good eye or someone who is good at diy.

reef patrol Nov 30, 2021, 8:13 PM

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That's just dumb. It'd be like IKEA selling furniture only carpenters can assemble.

empty wren Nov 30, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Well I guess they could do a better job

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But you cannot always blame the product provider

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A user could be dumb too, also does not have to be perfect.

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Would be interesting to see these people apply a dbrand skin for example

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Dbrand normally puts it on anyways

reef patrol Nov 30, 2021, 8:17 PM

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empty wren Nov 30, 2021, 8:18 PM

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I mean maybe it is defective in the guidelines ¯_(ツ)_/¯ only way to know is to get it

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:35 PM

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When it says "Teenage Engineering" does it mean designs that they think teens may like or is that brand actually made up of teens?

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Yeah ;-;

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thats why I ask

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Whats the nvidia equivalent to an RX480?

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in terms of performance

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

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wheat plume Whats the nvidia equivalent to an RX480?

1060

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

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oh, hmm

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ok! thanks

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

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pretty solid card

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especially if you can get one for less than 100€

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

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my friend got this card today

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idk what she had before this though

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:50 PM

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how much was it?

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:50 PM

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she got it from her dad's computer

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cause he got an RTX card now

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:50 PM

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NOICE

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dad gamers unite

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:50 PM

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:')

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

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I got my dad an RTX 3070 for his AoE rig

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

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oo

crisp granite Nov 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

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he hasn't complained yet

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so that's good

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:)

wheat plume Nov 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

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bish

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if I had a 3070

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id not complain too

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here I am with 1660