🔌│tech

[old marlin]

have you used macos before

[fair gull]

yes sadly

[shadow minnow]

Not really. It’s the same cores but more of them. But pro and max are same when it comes to cpu

[fair gull]

no?

the smallest 14inch m1 pro model also only has 8cores

the model dictates core count

i thought about leasing one for very little money

[shadow minnow]

Well smallest one yeah but most don’t. Also isn’t the 14 inch one 6+2 instead of 4+4?

[fair gull]

no?

what

they were all 8cpu 8gpu minimum

[shadow minnow]

Yeah but performance and efficiency cores

[fair gull]

unless i misremember the comparison table

[reef tundra]

Use a mathstick instead

or an abbacus

infinite performance

[fair gull]

k 4 perf on m1, 6 or 8 on the m1 pro and 8 on the m1 max

[shadow minnow]

Yeah M1 pro lowest model is 6+2 and 16 GPU cores
M1 pro others are 8+2
And M1 is 4+4 and 8 GPU

[ashen spindle]

bro I stopped understanding where this is going when you replied to my "gpu got better" with "no, they got more gpu cores" which is the same

[reef tundra]

They talking about some M1 while they already released m1911

[fair gull]

idc for gpu and idk how much impact the redistribution has on cpu

[shadow minnow]

Was just referring to M1 not being “old” since it’s kinda same gen, being same architecture

[ashen spindle]

literally why do you think I put it in quotation marks

[shadow minnow]

Yeah I know, was just referring to it in general

[ashen spindle]

just make sure the things you need work on an M1

iirc docker had some issue and idk if that got fixed for example

[shadow minnow]

Yeah some stuff is broken

Compatibility layer is there but it doesn’t support some of older OpenGL versions for example

[fair gull]

node and vsc mainly

maybe some c# with net core/net6

[shadow minnow]

But for what supports Xcode Xcode is really nice by itself as long as usable.
Even though playgrounds like crashing too much

[reef tundra]

Will it run on the tears of sorrow?

[ashen spindle]

I think I remember someone complaining VS didn't work on the m1 max for a while, no clue about vsc

probably best to make a list of what you need 100% and check that before considering it

[reef tundra]

Apple: buy it

[shadow minnow]

Can try to install the stuff myself and check so Tony knows if it works if needed. Just if that includes installing Linux that would be an issue

[reef tundra]

[cursive summit]

Petition to rename Advanced Micro Devices to Lisa Su

[shadow minnow]

Petition to rename Lisa Su to Advanced Micro Devices

[cursive summit]

Petition for Advanced Micro Devices to sue Advanced Micro Devices (Lisa Su) for trademark infringement

[pale sigil]

I've done it for years and irs pretty common that others do it

Not every domain handler offers whois either

So I think it's unfair to expect real details when whois is usually a premium feature

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/rerW2b9d5Lc

The game lost to won ratio.... oh boi

[wheat plume]

This hurts me

[ashen spindle]

what about it

[wheat plume]

the cable is wrapped ALL THE WAY around the CPU cooler and plugged into the motherboard

And its pulling the connector really hard because the cable is too taut

It also came with NeoForza RAM.....
Whoever TF that brand is

[ashen spindle]

ehh it's a fan header and just a plastic connector, might not be ideal but dont really see an issue there

[wheat plume]

just wanna know why the cable is wrapped around all 4 sides of the cooler before being plugged into the cpu header thats next to the side the cable originates from

[reef tundra]

No loose cables

[reef patrol]

Just flip it 180"?

[wheat plume]

Yeah

[reef tundra]

😎 Close your eyes

[wheat plume]

GN is the opposite of clickbait

[reef tundra]

The masterbait

[ashen spindle]

[wheat plume]

cause they actually give a shit about good quality

and a nvidia fermi gpu

that got 4FPS in any game that would work

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

[ashen spindle]

bruh why does my stockmarket view look like crypto atm

[shadow minnow]

Apple went really high this week too

Makes me wonder why

Since it always went around 10% and even the value is almost the same

Also crazy thing with apple is, that that’s like 271 billions change, which sounds unimaginable to me tbh

[fair gull]

whois is a requirement and whois guard is a feature that isnt required for eu customers

idk if uk also keeps gdpr

if they do its free

[pale sigil]

We do yes but tbf

Still newish

[reef patrol]

WHOIS is a premium feature? What kind of third world country are you running 😄

[pale sigil]

My domain names go back quite a bit when it was pretty much a premium thing

Whois protection never used to be free

[reef patrol]

No such protections here. For legal reasons.

[cursive summit]

I mean, this does kinda put things into a perspective

[pale sigil]

It was a nightmare

Having my full address etc

Easily accessible

[shadow minnow]

Who is says bex.in is for sale… for like 7000$

[pale sigil]

Back in college especially

[reef patrol]

Welcome to the concept of domain ownership. Use a registrar next time 😄

I just doxxed Google. FBI where?

[ashen spindle]

and im pretty sure with gdpr you dont need the premium feature anymore for hiding it for majority of people

[pale sigil]

Again gdpr is still pretty new and my domains are old

[ashen spindle]

its in effect for almost 4 years

[fair gull]

doesnt matter each yr the whois info is resubmitted thus it jas to be blanked

[pale sigil]

I mean that I bought the domains with said info years before

Back when it was easy info

So basically it's just not something I've thought of

[pale sigil]

Eg mrpl.me uses the right info

And oh

You beat me to it

mrpl.me is quite new

I stopped using an old domain in college as it was basically a self dox back then

[fair gull]

i mean whois check the old one

should also hide info

they all refer to the registrar company to retrieve details and they domt hand em out

[pale sigil]

Aye it is

Maybe I'll finally update the account info

[fair gull]

also

rented a macbook for 20eur/month

[pale sigil]

Whyyyyyy

[fair gull]

free repairs

and nice travel notebook

ngl the only other good options would be 1 or 2 grand aswell and would prob be toughbooks or smth

[pale sigil]

When you say rented do you mean basically like a phone contract

[fair gull]

no

more like leasing

[pale sigil]

That baffles me

[fair gull]

why

[pale sigil]

I've never not owned something outright

And the idea of renting a device baffles me

[cursive summit]

Leasing shit is actually not a bad idea

Since it'll get old in what, 2 years time anyways

[fair gull]

ya

[cursive summit]

You only wasted like 480 euros

[fair gull]

exactly

[cursive summit]

And most providers will just give you new tech for free

[fair gull]

well in this case its 3 yrs contract

but still cheap af

[cursive summit]

So especially for businesses, leasing is incredibly good

[pale sigil]

So it is a contract

[fair gull]

yes

just not like a phone

[pale sigil]

Do you own it after 3 years

[fair gull]

good question.dont care

after 3yrs i can just get the next new one

so /shrug

[pale sigil]

Because then it's just like a phone contract lol

[cursive summit]

Leases don't really give you the ownership

[fair gull]

no phone contracts always end up more expensive than the phone

[cursive summit]

Which one'd you get

[fair gull]

phone contracts are more like credit

[pale sigil]

Not always

[fair gull]

the smallest pro

dont need more

[pale sigil]

I don't like paying monthly fees for anything

Tbh

Prefer just to buy and own

[fair gull]

still 1450eur is the price rn

i pay what

[pale sigil]

Even phones

[cursive summit]

I mean

[fair gull]

240x3

[cursive summit]

20 bucks per month

Is not a bad deal

[pale sigil]

I'm not disagreeing

[fair gull]

the us price is better than german

in germany literally 1450eur

[pale sigil]

Seems fairly reasonable

The US price is pre tax

[shadow minnow]

Why pro?

[fair gull]

touchbar

[pale sigil]

Oh god

[fair gull]

also no air for leasing

at least not the next 4weeks

[cursive summit]

You either:
Buy full price
Take financing and repay in 2 years, usually, retaining ownership/
Lease it for like 60% of the price but you don't retain the ownership

Honestly, leasing it is quite cool

[fair gull]

ye

i can just timemachine on an external drive

and restore on the next

ez

[cursive summit]

TB4 helps with that I imagine

[fair gull]

yep

[pale sigil]

It's not about money

[shadow minnow]

True, wish it was on 14” and 16”, especially great for setting volume and stuff.
But also my 16” is so quiet unless you use 100% of cpu and GPU at once, even then. No wonder 13 non pro has no fans at all

[pale sigil]

I just find the whole concept weird

[cursive summit]

There is.. absolutely nothing weird about it

It's getting more and more common

Be lucky it's not 100% of the price you have to pay and they still take it away after 3 years

But I predict that'll happen anyways

[fair gull]

i dont think so

they still offer older macbook pros

for almost the same as i pay

same length

printer leasing is way more common tho

lease a huge ass laserprinter

u basically only pay the toner and 60% of the printer over x years

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/0a_IX29jwQU more you say?

[fair gull]

guess ill be a filthy mac user soon

at least when i travel

inb4 i commit suicide the next few days cause macos sucks

[reef tundra]

dont

[fair gull]

but macos

big sugar

[reef tundra]

macos aint worth it

[fair gull]

inb4 i just run parralels on it

altho

this also means i can dev woot stuff for mac

poggers

[pale sigil]

Pretty sure all the founders are sheep

[fair gull]

?

what founders

[pale sigil]

Wooting founders xD

[reef tundra]

free thinker be like 🐑

[fair gull]

cause they use mac?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[fair gull]

tbf

they are good work machines

[pale sigil]

And phones

And airpods

And everything else apple

[fair gull]

that i dont understand

i do understand the choice of macbooks and macs

but the phone choice i dont get

[cursive summit]

macos is honestly quite cancer

Hell I even found iOS to be cancer

Shitty ass ipod touch 6

[chrome estuary]

I've got a few issues with macOS

Things not fully quitting out when closed and it being a bitch to maximize windows instead of fullscreen

[fair gull]

i punched the numbers i pay 28 some odd eur per month for 36 months... if i just round up to 29 thats still only 1044eur compared to https://discordjs.moe/p4hncpf5gl4a.png

400eur saved basically

[pale sigil]

Didn't you say 20 euro

Lol

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, the 14” and 16” mini led screen is amazing

[pale sigil]

If I was to get a macbook it would be the new one

[shadow minnow]

Beats most of if not all other monitors I have seen, even if response times aren’t always as good, like 10ms

[pale sigil]

I need 144hz

Idk what the macbooks are refresh rate wise

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter what refresh rate they are, the color transition is terribly slow

aka if you have 120hz on and move things there are massive trails compared to even budget 120hz laptops

like even 60hz in motion can look better than the MBP

[shadow minnow]

New one is variable, I think 10-120

[ashen spindle]

but given its more focused on image quality I guess thats the tradeoff they decided to make

[shadow minnow]

Uh not really. Like with slow motion recording I could see the color transition being few ms, but it has no ghosting and by eye don’t think I could see it. Don’t remember for sure though, gotta try it again

[pale sigil]

Can that be disabled

[ashen spindle]

bruh you cant "not really" me with a screen where the color transition takes over 10x the ammount of other screens

[shadow minnow]

It can but not really reason why. It gives both higher max refresh rate and way better battery life

[pale sigil]

That's so stupid

[shadow minnow]

It doesn’t. Pretty sure it doesn’t have more than 10ms, probably less. Most screens without ghosting aren’t more than 2 times better considering resolution

[shadow minnow]

Well you don’t really want to lock it, since it really works for improving battery life

[neat oriole]

Yeah Mac book pro screen is fast but smeary

[shadow minnow]

Sounds wrong. That would mean you would have many trails behind, can send 240hz recording of some blur buster thing.

[ashen spindle]

it is not wrong

like this is not a opinion

[shadow minnow]

Well I am getting different results that’s the thing

[ashen spindle]

these are how the measurements are

[shadow minnow]

Maybe some thing fixed by software update or sth, gotta try again today

[shadow minnow]

Unless the content is less so like YouTube content will only play at 30 or 60 or whatever

[neat oriole]

To be fair it’s possible HU has a dud, and not many other outlets have said much about the screen being smeary

[ashen spindle]

nope the blurbusters ufo works so a dud could be a thing I guess? do other reviewers even use the ufo on a mac?

[neat oriole]

None that comes to mind

[shadow minnow]

Actually take it back, doesn’t look same bad way irl but there is some higher time it takes. Just irl it still looks sharp, you just see trail behind

[ashen spindle]

if you see a trail it's not sharp

tf

[shadow minnow]

I tried it is want I am referring to

[ashen spindle]

"it looks sharp but I can see it's not sharp" is what you said

[shadow minnow]

I mean, the imagine is not blurry, in the way on the image, just has trail behind, not blur

[ashen spindle]

yes we called it smear and not blur bc it's smear

[neat oriole]

But it’s one of those things where other outlets might not comment on the smeary ness because it’s unlikely they’ll encounter 120fps content

[ashen spindle]

yea

[shadow minnow]

But yeah it’s pretty bad, was wrong (with blur buster thing running at 60hz, web content may not support more)

Gotta try if software update helps but doubt it

[ashen spindle]

the website supports more than 60, idk about your browser though

[pale sigil]

Afaik the ufo thing supports up to 240hz

And works best on chrome

Prob more hz even

Not sure

[shadow minnow]

Takes less than 8ms to go to a new color but the trail is way longer, going back to lower values

[ashen spindle]

also this is a great example why I'm calling you an apple shill btw with how you directly jumped to apples side and said it's not that bad at first

[shadow minnow]

I have said it because I remembered it from my own testing, when I mainly look at new color, not trail, and also looked at light blue where it was better.
Also with M1 pro thought it’s gonna be bit more worse before seeing testing

[ashen spindle]

also for the love of god stop fucking pinging for every single reply

[pale sigil]

I disagree

[pale sigil]

Keep

[pale sigil]

Pinging

[pale sigil]

It's

[pale sigil]

Funny

[cursive summit]

You people don't ever bother to disable this eh?

[pale sigil]

Why would I

[crimson wigeon]

Easy solution is to just not say stuff that people will want to reply to

[cursive summit]

To be a decent human being?

[shadow minnow]

Have to do it every single time

True

[pale sigil]

nice expectations

[ashen spindle]

then just reply without tagging if youre too lazy to lcick it

[cursive summit]

From you yeah a bit far fetched

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/tonton-tonton-sticker-no-nope-gif-13636081

[shadow minnow]

Well I was replying to message that was but further up, but yeah, normally should that, just muscle memory, gotta get used to not always replying

[pale sigil]

@prisma crag ikr

[shadow minnow]

@pale sigil yeah

[shadow minnow]

Thanks

[shadow minnow]

For

[shadow minnow]

Your

[shadow minnow]

Support

[pale sigil]

Oh

Sorry @ashen spindle I get it now

[chrome estuary]

Do

[chrome estuary]

You

[chrome estuary]

Really?

[shadow minnow]

Sure

[shadow minnow]

He

[shadow minnow]

Does

[reef tundra]

[shadow minnow]

[crisp granite]

[shadow minnow]

there used to be more gun emojis 😦

[crisp granite]

Nope

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1462570037538017280?t=cnjabQycV6wEfIco-PPvPg&s=19

Madison | suop (@suuuoppp)

something about these purchases... just makes sense

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Twitter · Nov 21, 2021, 11:54 PM

[crisp granite]

I understand it, doesn't mean I like it

[wheat plume]

I love this :')

[pale sigil]

Csnt be real

[crisp granite]

Except you can't buy them

They can't even give them away

[wheat plume]

The self-awareness is real

[pale sigil]

https://twitter.com/HuaweiUSA/status/1462799585697488896

HuaweiUSA (@HuaweiUSA)

Black Friday special! 100% OFF all phones we currently sell in the US.🙃

Retweets

639

Likes

3264

Twitter · Nov 22, 2021, 3:06 PM

It's fucking real

[halcyon moss]

i just bought one thing "this black friday", a chrome cast ultra for € 22. it also comes with a stadia controller and 3 months of stadia pro

[pale sigil]

Oh wow these comments

[pale sigil]

I considered it but my friend has multiple bundles from their past events so I'm gonna just take his (he offered ofc)

[wheat plume]

where do you get that from?

[halcyon moss]

well its cheaper than a normal chrome cast 3 (FHD)

[wheat plume]

Its not offered in the Stadia website

[halcyon moss]

google itself

[ashen spindle]

ah yes, it is I, relatable Company that is making social media post to convince you we are friends and get you to buy our product

[halcyon moss]

lemme have a look

[halcyon moss]

https://store.google.com/product/stadia?hl=nl

[cursive summit]

Eh I wouldn't get a Huawei even if they were 100% off

[pale sigil]

Could you not

[halcyon moss]

i have no idea, i havent received it yet

[pale sigil]

@brazen vapor should get a code via email

[halcyon moss]

holyshit

might get a steamdeck sooner :troll:

[ashen spindle]

I just realised steam deck delay might mean delay on the deckard too noooo

[halcyon moss]

no

it doesnt run on fbsd? hmm thought it did

hm its def linux! https://github.com/googlestadia/kernel

[ashen spindle]

everything is streamed the same year the us has decent internet available everywhere

now its your choice if you think that happens after 2100 or after 2200

[pale sigil]

It's because destiny anti cheat only banned wine etc

Stadia build of destiny is Linux afaik

[thick elk]

Hmm that cheap stadia seems like something I could mess around with. The controller could be fine as a cheap one to add to the collection and the chromecast could probably run something like kodi

[wheat plume]

So, The Stadia controller is what is actually streaming the game and inputs and the Chromecast is just casting to the TV?

[empty wren]

Bloodly mouse rapid fire for the win

[wheat plume]

F

[empty wren]

If you get a game

I think you can get a 3 for 1 as well

It works in a chrome browser yes

[thick elk]

From what I can read, it should be just requires some remapping and such

[wheat plume]

Yeah, I just played Hitman on it

Oh, controller.... NVM

IDK!

Possibly, cause its just bluetooth, I assume

if I can get the Switch Pro Controller to work on Linux
Or the Xbox One S controller, which has measures in place to make it only work on Xbox and Windows
Then SURELY Stadia controller should work fine

I use it wirelessly

[thick elk]

Steam input is your friend when it comes to the switch controller

[wheat plume]

^

It works natively, if you add this to your GRUB config

Got to disable ERTM

[thick elk]

Last time I tried the switch pro was some months ago to be fair.

[wheat plume]

It has a wireless dongle?!

TIL

I just use it straight up

ye

this seems so convoluted

Its got a nice deal rn

but fuck Facebook

96 euro import fees .-.

[empty wren]

Not an Oculus quest 2 anymore

[cursive summit]

Why tf are you buying from Amazon. COM

[empty wren]

It is a Meta Quest 2

[wheat plume]

Cause I may as well, if I cant find things on DE

Same problem coming from Amazon UK now, still would get import fees

I do

Cause if I cant find something there

But I do whenever I can

[cursive summit]

Or just.. ebay

Que?

Ebay's fine

[ashen spindle]

bruh who pays 415 for a used quest

[cursive summit]

Idk locally I can get em for this much

If my tiny country has em, yours should

[ashen spindle]

yea might as well pay basically the same price for a new one on amazon instead of getting a used one

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah, anybody fancy a Samsung 4TB SSD?

[empty wren]

Usb spec?

[cursive summit]

I ain't got a clue

[empty wren]

Alright

[cursive summit]

The listing's fake anyways since the website has like 3 different Samsung models listed

Also 4TB 860 Pro retails for like 700$

Not 90

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit they are like £250 in the UK atm (quest 2), also buying off ebay is so much hassle

[cursive summit]

The hell are you talking about, buying off ebay is literally pay and wait

[pale sigil]

If the item works and is in good condition

[cursive summit]

I mean unless you don't read the listing and the ratings of the seller

[pale sigil]

And doesn't have issues after a while

10 step process vs a one step process anywhere else

[cursive summit]

Again, what are you talking about

You ain't that old not to know how to ebay

[pale sigil]

I had an issue with my oculus once, took me the same day to get a new one ebay you get treated like you're under infestation if you have any issues

And usually you're the one who has to deal with fees and shit

Exactly

Ebay took an entire month to refund me for an order that didn't come

And the seller fucked off

I've always used ebay for low value items only

Would never ever use it for high value items

Plus they scam you out of your earnings with stupid fees

I mean that's more amazon not giving a shit

And im guessing you saying it came like that

I bought some clothes off ebay once which took like 3 weeks for them to make me take a video ripping them up, the clothes had come damaged and they'd rather me video destroying them than send them back for a refund

I mean ye I got the refund but 3 bloody weeks and a bizarre requirement

I also hate being charged to send back items that just aren't as advertised

So ye

I sent back a GPU after 3 years

They refunded me the whole £430

I said I couldn't be bothered rmaing it could they do it for me

Went away for a few min and judt said fuck it

Send it us

Nono

Haha

It had a fault

It burned like a bbq

Because they don't care

It's why wootings don't sell anymore

On amazon as often

Because amazon don't care

Amazon either take up the cost themselves or charge the company after

[chrome estuary]

i've actually got that coming

[pale sigil]

Crucial mx 500

Much cheaper and better

[chrome estuary]

I actually own an mx500

[pale sigil]

Oh

Nvme

[chrome estuary]

yeah

[pale sigil]

That's a good price

[chrome estuary]

wait i'm not sure if i own an mx500

i've got one in my amazon orders but i'm pretty sure there's not one in the PC

I know i've got a Crucial P1 1TB

[pale sigil]

Damn I wish i had money rn

Always wanted 2nvme drives

Why wasn't that price around when i got my mx500 😭

[chrome estuary]

ah yeah i own a crucial mx500 2tb

my buddy got the crucial mx500 1tb

[pale sigil]

Ye same, I think we got ours the same time @chrome estuary

[chrome estuary]

June 16th, 2020

[pale sigil]

Ye

[chrome estuary]

246.09 USD

[pale sigil]

Nooo

[chrome estuary]

that's what mine came out to.

[pale sigil]

June 23 2021 for £139

Still happy ahout the price

[chrome estuary]

yours was a year later so fair enough

[pale sigil]

For real though if I had the money I'd buy that 970 now lol

[chrome estuary]

however...

[pale sigil]

My drives are a mess rn

[chrome estuary]

i've got a 500GB m.2 in my 2nd slot right now, i'm gonna replace it with this 2tb one and put the 500gb m.2 into an enclosure.

[pale sigil]

The second local disk is my Linux drive

[chrome estuary]

i need to stop being lazy and clean up my drives

remove all the hard drives that aren't in use

[pale sigil]

My issue is purely user files and games, I'd rather have both on one

That 500gb doesn't actually have any games on it

I store most things on my NAS

I'd rather just have 1tb nvme like I do rn and 2tb nvme

No drives at all would feel glorious

[chrome estuary]

that 2tb is an ssd, the 500gb is an ssd, the C drive is an nvme

soon that 2tb will be more 'backup' storage and less played games (game installers from yarr harr, movies, tv shows and shit) and the new 2tb NVME will be game storage.

[reef patrol]

The LEGO I had at the bottom of the bin

[misty saffron]

didn’t know computer case designs could be that tasteless

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roBkg-iPrbw

[young pecan]

Yep.

[ashen spindle]

man I hate audio stuff, I cant wait for AI to get so much better I dont need to spend hours on setting up my mic and still sound bad

[ashen spindle]

you know what, given we are in Q4 2021 and new shit is coming Q4 2022 I'll send me a reminder for 1 year in the future with current hardware prediction for fun to see how close I am

[young pecan]

Use izotope.

[crisp granite]

Instructions unclear: mic lodged in throat

[reef tundra]

Instructions nuclear: run

[old marlin]

don't forget the obligatory SM7B

[shadow minnow]

Sounds like a fun idea

[old marlin]

manuals are for fools anyways

informing yourself how your mic wants to be positioned is bad anyways

[halcyon moss]

i had a look at the kia ev6 a week ago, nice car, but trunk is not wide enough

which is weird because it is a fucking wide car.

[reef tundra]

🦀 ICE has been cancelled 🦀

no more refugees have to be terrorised

[chrome estuary]

I want a different car. My 09 Impala sucks.

It guzzles gas, the rear defroster doesn't work, the actuators for the heat and air break too easily, the car's heater doesn't want to work at idle even after having been running for a while or even after being in motion

Hot shit I want a Rivian so badly. I can't afford one and dont need that kind of truck but I want it

Yeah... Seeing how it's 20 degrees this morning... I agree. Also my damn selector knob isn't choosing the right setting for the air flow. Meaning I had no defroster this morning and putting it to feet gave me heat directed at me

[halcyon moss]

are they shipping already?

that rivian is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big

[chrome estuary]

It's a four door truck

[halcyon moss]

its a good 20cm wider than the ev6 O_o

i would not be able to park that car anywhere lol

[chrome estuary]

Damn really?

I don't think it's that bad

[halcyon moss]

its too big, it is ridiculous.

[chrome estuary]

I live in rural Indiana so the Rivian is just a normal sized truck to me...

You get a lot of lifted trucks here too but there are a lot more work and farm trucks

Ah fair

[halcyon moss]

i hope volvo will create a good electric car soon.. prefferably a station :p

not in electric -_-

1 model

oh 2 models. i forgot about the c40.

chinese, not volvo :p the other volvo is the xc40. smallish suv

link & co 01 is the same platform, also chinese

The chinese are way ahead in electric.

hen i was in bejing 6ish years ago all mopeds were electric. and there were a lot of them

lol hydrogen

production model wont be :p

[old marlin]

Aka id life

Hopefully

[halcyon moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYHz93HXJFQ

[reef tundra]

Winner mentality

[halcyon moss]

yeah they were, still are kinda. replaced mostly by electric bikes and scooter

now they just need to make the scooter only be allowed to be electric, and most of that noise is gone. i hate those things. Good thing that in Amsterdam they are moved to the car road.

[old marlin]

realistically

[halcyon moss]

i have one

[old marlin]

would you have used it

[halcyon moss]

https://www.ronaldschot.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/URBAN-ARROW©-Family-Performance-CX-Shimano-Zee-4-scaled.jpg

id go for something like this
https://www.elektrischefiets123.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/batavus-ego.jpg

this is a commuter bike, a bit more sporty than an oma fiets. way more comfortable.

heh i thought they were Dutch. apparently with a factory in NL

the one i posted is a lot more upright

thats an infrastructure issue...
there are also speedpedelacs which can go faster

elektric bikes only support till 25km/h over here. you can go faster, but that has to be muscle power

i've hit 30km/h on my bakfiets. its a lot of work :p

[reef tundra]

That would require a specific drivers licence (AM or B), mandatory use of a helmet, insurance and a yellow numberplate.

[halcyon moss]

^^ correct

[reef tundra]

if you want to exceed 25km/h

legally

[halcyon moss]

but locke is in hawaii.. so i have no idea what the laws are over there

speed limit on a bicycle?

[old marlin]

electric assitance is speed limited

you are allowed to be faster

[reef tundra]

Officially muscle power bicycles are only limited by the local speed limits that apply to all drivers

[old marlin]

if you do it under your own power

[halcyon moss]

@old marlin

[old marlin]

ye

well

some countries might be different idk

60 kph

on a bike

[reef tundra]

Electronically assisted can only help to an maximum of 25kmh without any added restriction. But have to be assisted, not only motor propelled

[old marlin]

under your own power

or electrically powered

ah

ok

oh also

germany only allows motors activated by the pedals

and no button or direct throttle controls

[halcyon moss]

that would be assisted

[old marlin]

unless you wanna get one with a plate etc

[reef tundra]

Same here

[halcyon moss]

in Amsterdam you see a lot of these fat tired electric bikes with throttle control these days.. no plate. so no legal

[old marlin]

amsterdam be like

to be fair

those shitty 45kph cars

[reef tundra]

[old marlin]

technically require you to wear a bike helmet

and I have never seen somebody wearing one

[halcyon moss]

canta!

you dont need to wear a helmet in those.

[reef tundra]

because it is technically a bromfiets (AM) and helmet wearing is mandatory

[old marlin]

you have to here

ye

same with bikes

and uhhh

electric bikes with over 25kph

even hoverboards

"hoverboards"

segway without stick

[reef tundra]

🤷 bigger question is which police officer cares enough to enforce it all

[old marlin]

whatever you wanna call it

I mean

they can if they want to

[reef tundra]

but it would be technically possible to be fined

[halcyon moss]

i've seen a woman get a fine for crossing a red light in cologne. 5 euro. lol

[old marlin]

lol

[reef tundra]

I've seen loads of scooters being impounded after checking if the limiter was still in place

[old marlin]

lol

[halcyon moss]

ive also heard of ppl getting fines for riding a bike on the wrong side... a big road. the inner ring of cologne.

seperated bike path.

[reef tundra]

big tip, dont drink and drive. Especially dont do drugs, drink and drive

The limit becomes 0 when multiple are detected.

[halcyon moss]

these are not allowed in NL

[ashen spindle]

I think they want to limit these to 20kmh here but still allow them

[halcyon moss]

In DE?

[reef patrol]

They are a goddamned plague is what they are.

Denmark's finally reached the point where they are considering banning them again, cause people leave them everywhere and anywhere. The app leased ones that is.

Also people don't respect speed limits, right of way or just general traffic safety on crossings or paths with them.

[ashen spindle]

ye

I either dont leave my house or use the train thats close by so I dont notice them anyway lmao

[halcyon moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8

car horns should be as loud on the inside of the car, as they are on the outside

[reef tundra]

Shouldnt be an issue, used the car horn few times from what I recall

[halcyon moss]

Ive used in a could of situations where i thought an accident was about to happen, or when someone is distracted at a traffic light

[reef tundra]

Its even illegal and carries a fine if you use it unnecessarily.

[fair gull]

sometimes i love me job

[halcyon moss]

nice, which ones are they?

[reef patrol]

Welp... Microsoft has announced no more backwards compat games added. So... emulation to the rescue as usual? xD

[ashen spindle]

for... 360?

or one

idk what the last supported name was

[reef patrol]

At all.

[ashen spindle]

got a link? im confused

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSSnD8vnJ7Q

He talks about the program ending about 3-4 mins in.

[ashen spindle]

oh so it's just 360 and older things

[reef tundra]

That has been the standard method. Emulate backwards compatibility?

[reef patrol]

Well... duh. That's what backwards compat is 😛

[ashen spindle]

and here I was hoping thyey did away with the stupid promise taht new games will still run ont he xbox one

[reef patrol]

JSRF unsurprisingly never made it in due to licensing issues with the music.

I do respect them for taking a stance in that old games should be legal to emulate on modern consoles. In the same way that old DVDs can be played on modern systems.

[ashen spindle]

yeah that part is nice, I'm still mad at them to release a new console gen and then saying new games will also run on the older consoles

[shadow minnow]

Why though? It’s nice for many customers

[ashen spindle]

yeah and it's absolute trash for 90% other people who want games to not be bottlenecked by LAST gen consoles anymore

[shadow minnow]

Wouldn’t say it’s 90%. There are quite a few people who can’t afford or get new consoles, and being able to play games on older ones is imo nice for them. Also since Xbox series s is pretty low on performance too, not that far from one x, apart from ssd. And chip shortage

[reef tundra]

The vibe marketing gives off with it: how generous of us

[ashen spindle]

bruh the One is like 10 year old hardware

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah but one s and one x are not that old

[ashen spindle]

yes because they are the current gen consoles lmao

[shadow minnow]

I mean one s, not series s.
But yeah tbf, Xbox one should probably stop being supported, but I think one s and x still should be

[ashen spindle]

you do realize the one and one s have basically the same chip yes?

[reef tundra]

November 2013 was the first xbox one released (3rd generation of the xbox series)
S/X is 4th gen in the series

[ashen spindle]

we are talking amd jaguard and GCN pre-polaris

what use is pcie 4 and directstorage and all that if you need to make sure that trashcan can run your game

[shadow minnow]

Still. Realistically, many of console users are still children, many of whose parents wont buy them new consoles every time, or ever for some time, especially from poorer families. So it’s nice for them to get the game support.

[reef tundra]

Original & One S: Custom 1.75 GHz AMD 8-core APU (2 quad-core Jaguar modules)
Literal potato

[shadow minnow]

Especially people who bought one x or s close to end of release of series s and x don’t have it for that long either

[ashen spindle]

yes because the family that can only afford 10 year old hardware on the other hand totally can afford multiple 60-70$ games

totally makes sense

[reef tundra]

Also consoles are sold at a loss 👀

[shadow minnow]

It’s not really just afford. Also people who bought one s and x close to series s and x release had it for not that good price.
And they may just buy 2 or 3 of new games when they are on sale. Still nice for them. Know couple of people playing for example forza horizon 5 on one s. Why not since their monitor is low res too.

[shadow minnow]

Ps 5 apparently no longer, but yeah, in general true.

[ashen spindle]

ok so whats the point of selling new consoles then if half of the shit in there can't be used because the old consoles dont have it

[shadow minnow]

Yeah they probably shouldn’t have full compatibility but I think there should be a reasonable level of compatibility, like most games supporting it even if with lot longer loading or with lower resolution

[ashen spindle]

that's not how it works lol

if you look at like the ratched game for playstation you literally cant make that on the ps4 for example without completely removing the instant loading of worlds

so then you are asking for 2 different games or cutting features that older consoles cant do

[shadow minnow]

Well you can remove instant loading only for older consoles while keeping it for current ones

[ashen spindle]

first one is logistically impossible second one just means new console users get fucked

it's not instant loading of a new area, it's loading in areas in the middle of movement, you can't add in a loading screen in the middle of a jump and assume people want to run through multiple loadings screens while fighting enemies

[reef tundra]

Dev time is expensive

[shadow minnow]

I would say it’s bigger issue for multiplayer games but for single player there usually may be workarounds. But yeah, don’t think compatibility should be complete, just for games or with changes where it’s reasonable

[ashen spindle]

the whole point of new tech is that you can do stuff that the older tech cant do

[reef tundra]

Like.. play 4k blurays

[ashen spindle]

if you just make it run at higher fps sure you can put 30fps cap on it and run it on older hardware then

but if you want to use new stuff to make gameplay that isn't fun or possible with older gen there is no workaround

imagine if you would play portal but every time you go through a portal it hits you with a loading screen

fuck that

would be possible on older gen sure but literally nobody would want to play that

[reef tundra]

bethesda still having their engine bound to the fps

higher framerate faster game

[fair gull]

higher framerate = better physics

[ashen spindle]

that's why life is soo bad, framerate is only 9,8fps since its bound to physics

[fair gull]

faps per second?

[ashen spindle]

friendliness per state

[fair gull]

how about fellatio per spit

[fickle ore]

IRL framerate is capped by light speed, stupid input lag

[shadow minnow]

Frame rate isn’t really capped by it, it just adds input delay

[fickle ore]

it is duh

[shadow minnow]

How does that even happen too, do you write every single part of your game in view controller with every action going through frames, same as graphic stuff, instead of being separated?

[shadow minnow]

Tbf for smaller apps that are very simple it may be simpler to create, but for sth of this scale…

[fair gull]

see first error is that not every game is unity based

second problem is that yes many games use 1 loop which binds the physics to the fps

[shadow minnow]

Never really tried much with unity, was more talking about as in example of code, where you have part of stuff for every frame, while part separate

[fair gull]

camera controller is usually smth unity

[ashen spindle]

no I think he means view controller in that horrid code pattern thing

[old marlin]

Nvidia leak said ealry 2022

Of that is true it will prob be announced at the gameawards

[reef tundra]

I say before the heat death of the universe

[old marlin]

So before ow2

[reef tundra]

Launch date: no

[old marlin]

Considering how few character redesigns they have shown

Prob not the case

[ashen spindle]

hey making a hd texture pack and selling it as a new game is hard work mkay?

[old marlin]

Lol

[reef tundra]

new update: OW has been renamed to ow2

[old marlin]

A shitty one

Not as bad as gta

But still

Terrible

Also blizzard was able to poop out burning crusade classic out

[ashen spindle]

yeah because they dont do shit for the retail version so they have time for classic

[reef tundra]

Atleast it is in theme of a crusade then. Taking years, failed, and mostly to get the focus from some other failure ⛪

[old marlin]

I mean it is fitting

game apparently is filled with chinese botters

funny how the riot guys come from wow

and not wc3

or sc

also that are not studio founders or anything

just studios that people swapped to

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E8IGy6I9Wo very nice, time to shit on linux again

[reef patrol]

I'm 5min in... and oh boy 😄

They've reached the "Corsair and friends don't support Linux. What is this shit. chapter.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/muta-mutahar-laugh-slow-laugh-giggle-gif-18444092

[latent mural]

hello, i have a strange question if my gpu doesnt support nvidia in-game overlay, is there any way to still make it work?

[pale sigil]

Do you mean shadowplay

[latent mural]

i need the colors option

[pale sigil]

Wot

Shadowplay can do that

[ashen spindle]

if you mean filters you can get them without that

[latent mural]

game filters

alt+f3

[crimson wigeon]

ReShade?

[latent mural]

i just copied this pic of google

[pale sigil]

Am. Confused

You can't use shadowplay?

[latent mural]

game filter, how do i get that

[latent mural]

no

[ashen spindle]

use reshade or the amd filters or w/e

[latent mural]

im a gt 1030 gamer

[pale sigil]

Geforce experience

It has all of it built in to it

Filters, ansel, replay, record etc

[latent mural]

i cant use the options in it

[ashen spindle]

use reshade

[pale sigil]

Does it give an error?

[pale sigil]

If he is using a 1030 he'll take a hit using reshade

Ah

But ye reshade is your only option

What game?

[ashen spindle]

reshade can do literally the same as the nvidia filters so it's the same performance change

ofc if you do more it takes more performance

[pale sigil]

Reshade injects

Some games don't like it

So gotta be careful

[latent mural]

i want to use it on valorant

[pale sigil]

Then no

Don't use reshade

Haha

The anti cheat won't like it

[latent mural]

what can i use then

the game looks like my morning dump

[pale sigil]

Can take the risk

People have been using it afaik

But I certainly wouldn't

[ashen spindle]

bruh its valorant, getting banned so you cant play it anymore would do you a favor anyway

[pale sigil]

True

[latent mural]

are you a fortnite player?

[ashen spindle]

ew

[pale sigil]

Bhahahahahahs

Quinty

My man

Stop playing fortnite

@latent mural he bought his wooting for double movement, can confirm he plays fortnite

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[ashen spindle]

at least speak proper english if you try to frame me

[reef patrol]

finna catch him red pawed, bet...uhh... sheeesh

(That physically hurt to write out)

[pale sigil]

Haha I'm proper struggling to type on my phone

I have plasters on

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-play-body-cast-cast-sorry-gif-11754546

[pale sigil]

Its a nightmare

I feel old having to use my pin

Well at least we get a pin, pretty sure olde days there was no such thug

Don't remember anyway

I loved chewing my aerial tho 👀

[pale sigil]

AHHHHHHHHH

trying to get a founder editon

lodads just dropped

msrp

[young pecan]

Score me one and I'll pay you 10% over.

:D

[pale sigil]

they wont take paypal

😦

[young pecan]

F

[crimson wigeon]

PAYPAL EVIL

[pale sigil]

and they gone

gutted

all msrp

even 3080

[young pecan]

:C

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

i can only use paypal

[chrome estuary]

@pale sigil

[pale sigil]

i was going to buy it with paypal credit and then sell my 3080 to pay for it

so gutted

would have profitted hugely

[wheat plume]

:')

gg

yay :D

Was it a PPA?

oh?

idk the pop store

Yeah, thats how I remember Spotify doing too

They just gave you the commands on the downloads page

[crimson wigeon]

Just install it from your distro's repository

[wheat plume]

OpenJDK is great

but their website isnt

[crimson wigeon]

It wanted a java, since there are potentially different implementations (but really everyone and their dog uses openjdk)

[wheat plume]

^^

what does installing java with apt do?

does it try to get Oracle java?

or nothing?

Cause java isnt a package on Arch xd

thats fine

[pale sigil]

i play mc to much

i read that is lava bucket package

[wheat plume]

Usually IntelliJ can download it for you

Microsoft are king of cryptic errors

[old marlin]

people malding that he dares do own a goxlr

[ashen spindle]

yup, how dare he want to use his things on linux xD

the price for linux

[old marlin]

you are aware he didn't buy the goxlr for this project

people don't buy an entirely new PC and peripherals

just to swap to the free open OS

[crimson wigeon]

True, but that's most things

[fair gull]

the superior os

as well all know

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/muta-mutahar-laugh-slow-laugh-giggle-gif-18444092

[pale sigil]

My rasberry pi decided to shit itself

hmmm

seems to be a power issue maybe

but hdmi wont work

ssh will

fuck it ill fix it tomoz

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/Fb7N-JtQWGI

[pale sigil]

Lol dayum

£200 basically

Ye...

[pale sigil]

Jesus

He's spent days getting windows 11 to work in a server environment to test it before installing on his main devices

Just... Don't use it

@wheat plume is that u minus the last part

Or Linux

Windows server is stupid and pointless

Tbh though

Going from 8.1 to 10 was rough

Fresh install was almost always needed

Pretty much not the case for me on any device

[old marlin]

even 7 to 10 was super smooth for me

with several cases of doing that in my company

none of them had problems

[fair gull]

8.1 to 10 was also smooth for me in all cases

so was xp to vista to 7 to win10

[ashen spindle]

bruh whats this doing in my feed now and why is the translation so shit

Why buy EVERY CPU

tf

[old marlin]

lol

translating it back made it a bit better even

[ashen spindle]

ye couldnt even fully show the error in english lmao

I guess it could be read as "Why buy EVERYONE CPU" but that's correct adjective/verb order in german language if I keep the word order?

[old marlin]

ah

now I get what they mean

I think

[ashen spindle]

I think the right translation would've been Warum kaufen ALLE diese CPU"

[fair gull]

ngl idk why it sometimes translates titles and sometimes doesnt...

[ashen spindle]

I think it's a community feature so if someone translates it and the creator approves it

[old marlin]

lol

stupid way to do it

since the creator has no way to know if the translation is good or not

[fair gull]

ya

also

i think germans would know its CPUs

not CPU

[ashen spindle]

well that's why it's not something one can do without creator approving it

[old marlin]

howevermanykliksphilip had a rant about it already

since he regularly gets translations recommended

[ashen spindle]

well no because the translation comes from why everyone is buying this one CPU not all these cpus

I think

[fair gull]

lol ya

[old marlin]

is it

[fair gull]

Why is EVERYONE buying this CPU?? YouTube · Linus Tech Tips 21 Oct 2020

[old marlin]

dunno if they mean everybody buys that cpu or everybody is buying all cpus

[fair gull]

makes it even worse

[old marlin]

[ashen spindle]

oh god that makes it even worse if thats the original

ye

@reef patrol

[reef patrol]

👀

Not La-Hee

[old marlin]

what about this one though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOzM4ClFG1o

best ff ost

[reef patrol]

That right there is both SO low effort, and high effort.

Jesus christ.

[old marlin]

lol

there are even some bonus tracks in there

some dk country iirc

and metal gear

[ashen spindle]

I mean it's a composition people made for soken from his own works after it was known he battled cancer so a bit more than just some soundtrack 😛

now I wonder if there is maybe an angry Lala on some server offering repairs and yelling at the terrible housing market

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBt4zT_PBmw

Can't beat this. though.

[empty wren]

In that case Pixel 6 Pro seems overpriced

[halcyon moss]

..why?

[ashen spindle]

why is everyone here turning into a version of Lana

[reef patrol]

I take offense to that implication.

[ashen spindle]

sorry every human here

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

becasue of no context is given on posts? :p

[ashen spindle]

pretty much

[old marlin]

[wheat plume]

There is context there though

[ashen spindle]

the 6a uses a lower camera than the 6, thus the 6 pro is overpriced

how is that not lacking context

[wheat plume]

It it's the same hardware other than the camera
For a lot cheaper

Then ofc it's overpriced compared to that

Unless you need the better camera

Watch Google put a sub 3000mAh battery in it though

[ashen spindle]

but the article doesnt even mention the 6 pro

just the regular 6

[wheat plume]

Then that makes the pro even more overpriced

If it's better than the regular but the 6A is worse than the 6 then the 6 pro is extra overpriced

[ashen spindle]

what

the 6A is worse than the 6 then the 6 pro is extra overpriced

and running on the same chip doesnt mean same performance

[halcyon moss]

the 6 pro has a better screen, more memory, better cameras

[halcyon moss]

this is a word salad

[old marlin]

so only the cheapest phone on the market is not overpriced?

[misty saffron]

phones are supposed to be free

[wheat plume]

Our phones, comrade

[wheat plume]

Aha!

[fair gull]

weird phone you got there

[wheat plume]

Hmm?

[shadow minnow]

How is GPU availability atm? Haven’t checked for a while tbh

[ashen spindle]

dont expect it to get better before end of next year with release of new cards imo

[fair gull]

welp

first day already crashed macos

[crimson wigeon]

It just works

[old marlin]

[fair gull]

and now i crashed just the appstore

gg

[old marlin]

it can't break

there also is no malware for it

[pale sigil]

Yesterday had a huge founder edition drop for the first time in half a year in the UK

[pale sigil]

You think new cards will fix it?

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind we're closing in on new year and they shut down factories

well yeah obviously

they are run on different nodes so just dont discontinue the old ones instantly and you have more capacity to use

[pale sigil]

Outside of founder cards you're talking £1.2k for 3080, £750-800 for 3070ti and £650 it you're lucky for a 3070

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/a-year-after-release-radeon-rx-6000-and-geforce-rtx-30-cards-are-twice-as-expensive-as-they-should-be

[shadow minnow]

Sold out now?

[pale sigil]

Within 20 min

I could have got. One but they didn't accept PayPal

[shadow minnow]

Congrats, you seem to be really good at it
Myself not that good at crashing whole macOS, but stuff like swift playgrounds, that’s sth I am too good at crashing

[shadow minnow]

What about 3080 ti? Also any still in stock?

[pale sigil]

I've never seen a 3080ti being sold

[fair gull]

bruh i just wanted to create an appleid

[ashen spindle]

no FE card is around, I even doubt they were around for a full 20 minutes

[fair gull]

didnt do it

so then

i made one in safari

after macos didnt want to get a dhcp address

and then when i logged in it fucked up macos completely

[pale sigil]

My friend would constantly lock up his M1 pro developing

Memory is a big issue

[shadow minnow]

I have had quite a few cases with M1 Xcode freezing, especially playgrounds, but M1 pro tends to work

[pale sigil]

Aye hut you're not exactly developing and especially not using docker :p

[shadow minnow]

Hmm, the GPU pricing. 3080 non ti waterforce wb is pretty good value compared to other non FE models, while 3080 ti wb is crazy overpriced

[shadow minnow]

Yeah but still can crash stuff

I think I may have crashed M1 pro too once but not sure

[pale sigil]

Define pretty good

[shadow minnow]

What do you mean I am not developing, I have made (definitely not writing exactly code from tutorial) part of screen going from blue to green, using “custom” (also for sure not from the tutorial) rendering engine

[pale sigil]

^

[shadow minnow]

Nvidia webpage says 1139£. Thats similar to low end models on nvidia page, not counting FE or even if in some cases bit higher, difference is lower than price of waterblock.
Doubt you can buy it for that price too

[pale sigil]

That ain't gold

Good

Msrp is £650

[shadow minnow]

Well yeah but apart from FE it’s not really msrp

And some 3080 cards are like 1400£ there

[pale sigil]

Even so original aftermarket prices were still much lower

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, it’s not good as in good, just compared to other models at current time not counting FE it’s not as bad

[ashen spindle]

whats the ti price then when you said this is a good deal lmao

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https://twitter.com/SteelSeries/status/1462909638337339399?t=7HeQlPs0YeLe6OAaeCzs8w&s=19

SteelSeries (@SteelSeries)

413 days

four hundred

and thirteen

days

it's time. reaching out via DM https://t.co/6FYEEBCumZ

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Twitter · Nov 22, 2021, 10:23 PM

Guess nagging works

[wheat plume]

is stuck

[ashen spindle]

should've at least done it to a brand with good gear if you want something

[pale sigil]

XD

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Hate Asus software

[ashen spindle]

ok how tf did you know thats asus

is that a logo they use for their software?

[wheat plume]

for armoury crate, yes