🔌│tech

[crisp granite]

since the mac mini is pretty much what I want, the OS, the system, but none of the bells and whistles I'd get with any other mac

[young pecan]

Ngl I just can't bring myself to care for OSx.

It's disruptive to quick progress by trying to be a 'utopia' OS.

It feels clunky.

[crisp granite]

yes...but

yeah, really can't say much

I kinda just want an excuse to use my airpods and iPad more, for productivity

and a desktop so I could use the apple ecosystem at home would seriously improve that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

too easy to get distracted on windows

[young pecan]

I give you a half assed Eh at best.

And for only a single reason.

[crisp granite]

close enough to a full assed Eh

[young pecan]

https://www.home-assistant.io/ This exists.

[crisp granite]

shut the fuck up

thank you

[young pecan]

Fuck the Apple ecosystem.

[crisp granite]

actually

valid

hm

[young pecan]

HomeAssist.

[crisp granite]

but rasPi

not smart enough for that

[young pecan]

Just run it in Docker...?

HomeAssist doesn't actually need to be in a RasPi.

[crisp granite]

Aeon

I'm dumb as shit

[young pecan]

You're fiiiine.

[crisp granite]

and way too lazy to set this up

[young pecan]

C'mon mate, it's not so hard.

Just make your IoT subnet and you're good to go.

[wheat plume]

Cant get the Pixel 5A in Ireland

dafuq

[empty wren]

Yeah same for Italy despite there being Italian words on the packaging

[iron wave]

Anyone here good with GL?

[misty saffron]

“is anyone here a masochist”

ftfy

[iron wave]

:-/

[wheat plume]

Fucking right

[true quest]

now we wait for valve to launch their own series on steam

[wheat plume]

I just want steam deck now xd

Can't wait

[true quest]

carry it around with the 60he and a small mouse

ez pc

[wheat plume]

Hehe

Yeah
You could!

[cursive summit]

That is true though

Because the reason I end up buying pirated games is because they are just so good that I want to unlock the whole package

Like Arma 3 and its Workshop

I played Arma 3 like years before I bought it but I ended up pressing the trigger and it's now my no. 1 game in terms of hours

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rembrandt-8-core-16-thread-zen3-apu-for-fp7-socket-has-been-spotted

Using single channel DDR5 memory, performance of the iGPU is similar to the GTX 1050

Which is kinda amazing to be fair

[iron wave]

Zen3+ eh?

Would be cool if the TR stuff used that.

[timid chasm]

corsair fucked up sending Steve that 500 mm fan. Now people are going to want them for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvdLey-8HTY

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

Lian Li lancool 2 Mesh and just dont connect the RGB header with the included fans so it's fully black(or white)

uhhh

Fractal Meshify C has a non glass option iirc but not as good as the lancool 2

[reef patrol]

Be Quiet also does some very down to earth cases with very good cable routing and such.

[ashen spindle]

do you mostly care about looks or airflow or smth else is the main question

yeah then I can't help, I look at what's doing best on temp scale and ignore looks lol

[reef patrol]

Just don't cheap out too hard. Those low end cases tend to cut a lot of corners and use thin metal sheets and a LOT of plastic. And you might cut yourself on random metal bits 😄

[crimson wigeon]

But PCs require blood sacrifices

[ashen spindle]

even a low end pc can get warm so bad airflow makes it not silent anymore 😛

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/9VPAvBiThMI

I love make a wish

[fair gull]

have you checked.out the dark base series from bequiet?

they are my fav recommendation with and without glass

[wheat plume]

HAH, thats how I feel about my phone

A week or so after I got mine, the Mi 11 Lite came out and its the same price and a lot better....

the Mi 11 has a better notch, screen, cpu

idc about cameras much

but the design is nice of them

[ashen spindle]

I mean you could see how much you can sell your case for and then it's either a trade in or potentially low cost for visual/practical update

as long as it's not trash or really dirty cases dont really lose a lot of value

[wheat plume]

My case?

[ashen spindle]

no?

[wheat plume]

whut

[ashen spindle]

if tino talks about a case, you about a phone, what do you think I mean with "case" ?

[wheat plume]

?

[ashen spindle]

this

was that not obvious?

[wheat plume]

oh. computer case

[ashen spindle]

put it on the scrap place for raw metal value xD

[wheat plume]

i want.......

and its not a bad price even

AGHHH

[ashen spindle]

then buy it

[earnest jay]

Enjoy FB.

[wheat plume]

I wont buy it

cause fuck FaceBook

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume that's a very good price hahahaha

[wheat plume]

;-; Facebook got to ruin everything

[pale sigil]

Ngl if I had the money I'd be buying it

Ah

Nvm

Saw the fees etc

Makes sense

[ashen spindle]

so dont use an account and do everything either side loaded or via your pc and a cable

[pale sigil]

Ye I agree with Quin, my only concern his how often people have been locked out of their account for having fbook accounts either in different names or just never used.

That would get me banned haha

I have an fbook account I don't use with a different name (was mainly for the wedding chat)

[latent mural]

what fees?

[pale sigil]

Import etc

[latent mural]

ngl my mind went straight to fees to disable ads because those headlines were the only reason i know about this device

[wheat plume]

??????

WHAT NOW?!

[latent mural]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57568039

[wheat plume]

....

Ok, boycotting Facebook and Oculus even harder now

[ashen spindle]

it's a game not oculus that did this, that could've been done on any other device too

[wheat plume]

its facebook

[ashen spindle]

yes and you said you are boycotting oculus harder after facebook makes a game that would work the same on non oculus devices..

[latent mural]

sure but as someone who has 0 interest in VR headlines like that are like the only thing i see and evidently remember

[wheat plume]

I have to boycott Oculus by extension

Since they are owned by FB

[ashen spindle]

idk I just genuinely don't understand the logic behind selective "boycotts" that mean you yourself will not get something you want when it won't change anything at all and if you would want to change something, you'd go the political route and get something done there when it's obvious the free market wouldn't give a shit

[wheat plume]

just dont want all my games and payment methods to buy and play Oculus games going through facebook

[empty wren]

Do not worry Facebook will change it's name soon xD

[wheat plume]

and having all those games not available on other VR headsets cause they are locked behind the FB account

Cant login to same account on a HTC or Index and get the games you bought

[ashen spindle]

so just buy them on steam and not the the oculus store....

[wheat plume]

wait

Steam works on Oculus?

[empty wren]

You will have to stream it or plug in

[wheat plume]

oh..

[pale sigil]

Lana hun

[latent mural]

okay, now i have interest in VR

[pale sigil]

You're worse than me sometimes x

Oculus works with steam vr via wired or wireless

[wheat plume]

Its 50% extra to get the non FB model 🤦‍♀️

[latent mural]

back to no interest in VR

god damn this chat

[reef patrol]

Just wait for the jailbreak to release.

[ashen spindle]

vr is not only oculus you know that?...

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but Oculus are the cheapest for pretty good hardware

[steel horizon]

pricing's too attractive... but it's a trap

[wheat plume]

cant get a decent headset for the price of the Quest 2

[latent mural]

yeah i'm not spending more than £300 so i can play beat saber

[pale sigil]

You know

As much as i hate Facebook

People are way over exaggerating

Like quin said just make an account and never use it lol

Or sideload

It's what I'll do when my legacy oculus account expires

[wheat plume]

when they expire?

[ashen spindle]

no facebook needed for oculus accounts from before the merger

[latent mural]

the cable to connect the headset to a computer is £89...

[wheat plume]

What port does it use on the computer?

[latent mural]

type C

[chrome estuary]

USB

[pale sigil]

Basically you never needed a Facebook account before @wheat plume and any accounts before the change were legacy

[wheat plume]

Ah, I no have USB C on my computer

[pale sigil]

You can use type c or USB 3

[chrome estuary]

^

[wheat plume]

Oooohhh

[chrome estuary]

Plus you can get a USB-C to full size adapter

[pale sigil]

You can also use WiFi

[wheat plume]

is a 1660 good enough for most VR games?

[pale sigil]

Ish

Lighter ones yes

[wheat plume]

Well, better than what the Quest has built in, I assume

[pale sigil]

Beyond better

You have the super or normal?

[wheat plume]

Normal

[pale sigil]

Ye should decent hinesrky

Honestly

Just expect intense games nott k run to well. Maxed out

[wheat plume]

So, get the Quest 2 for the hardware, and use it exclusively with the PC?

[pale sigil]

Like half life alyx

[chrome estuary]

I had a buddy use a 970 with Alyx

[pale sigil]

You won't run that very well, maybe low/medium

[chrome estuary]

Now he's got my 1080

[pale sigil]

On what headset

[chrome estuary]

Quest 2

[pale sigil]

Hmm

I was just looking at benchmarks haha

[chrome estuary]

It ran... okay

Not very nice to play but worked

[pale sigil]

Anything below 72 is just rough

https://youtu.be/jO7OIhZmXns

[wheat plume]

can you play the game without VR?

[pale sigil]

No

Ish

I think there is a mod

[wheat plume]

No point tbh, controls would be shite anyway

[pale sigil]

But you'd be punishing yourself

[wheat plume]

Yeah

No reason to play a game made specifically for VR without VR

[ashen spindle]

and you also don't need to buy the oculus cable... it's a fucking usb cable... just get something cheaper from a cable brand and dont pay oculus tax

[pale sigil]

Aye not anymore

Quest 1 wire was terrible lol

Thank god they included a decent one on the 2

[ashen spindle]

it comes with one already?

[pale sigil]

The quest 2 comes with one yes

That's usb 3 and made for link

Quest 1 was usb 2 and just so short

[ashen spindle]

great, another point that shows people are way to quick to jump onto hate wagons and don't check what they are looking into

[wheat plume]

WTF is the description doing with german in it?

[reef patrol]

Auto translate most likely.

[wheat plume]

oh, subtitles?

It doesnt come with the cable, afaik from looking at a couple unboxings

[pale sigil]

Nvm

I was wrong

Still usb 2

That comes with the quest 2 for charging

You can buy a cable for £13 tho officially reccomend

That's what I did

Honestly

Quest 2 is insanely good value

It's a must have device if you can look past the fbook login

[wheat plume]

Insert a catridge into the console
Wut.... Quest 2 has a catridge slot?!

[pale sigil]

It's worth every penny

No

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/ZdOj7B0pcpE?t=339 it says it here....

Time stamped

[pale sigil]

Ye no

[wheat plume]

oh.... LOL

[pale sigil]

That's um the quest virtual thing

[wheat plume]

the ones on the table

[pale sigil]

You can run games via your home environment via virtual cartridges

[wheat plume]

fucking want one...

AGHHH

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume you can use full hand/finger tracking with quest 2 BTW

[wheat plume]

I see that

[pale sigil]

We can finally fulfill our fantasy in the dungeon

[wheat plume]

👀 UwU

[reef patrol]

No one is safe. Not even consoles.

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit if only it existed

[ashen spindle]

I mean

https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-and-microsoft-announce-radeon-rx-6900-xt-halo-infinite-limited-edition

[pale sigil]

I meant

Impossible to buy

[ashen spindle]

While the AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Halo Infinite Limited Edition graphics card won’t be going on sale, AMD, Halo, and other partners will be offering players multiple opportunities over the coming weeks to get their hands on one

[pale sigil]

Ah

[ashen spindle]

so it's gonna be the same as the cyberpunk 2080 ti that is gonna be in giveaways etc.

[pale sigil]

Never thought I'd see a halo edition of pc hardware

Outside of CE

[ashen spindle]

I mean we're like 1.5 console generations away from pcs and console becoming the same thing I'd say

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol just imagine if that caused it to somehow actually install W11

Forget about logic

Just picture it

Thousands of people suddenly have windows 11 on their xbox somehow

Unable to play anything xbox

[reef patrol]

WELCOME TO GAMEPASS MOTHERTRUCKER

[pale sigil]

XD

Now that's how you do ultrawide

"we want to respect players privacy"

Also using easy anti cheat lol

[crimson wigeon]

Surprised that they're apparently adding proper LAN support

Don't see that often these days

[pale sigil]

Aye

[umbral knot]

this game is pretty fun

got my shit handed to me my first couple of games though

much harder than most other fps games

[ashen spindle]

DEJA VU

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-already-shipping-to-first-customers-two-weeks-ahead-of-launch

[pale sigil]

Looool

[ashen spindle]

intel so desperate they need to sell them before people see reviews

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle ping whenever there are leaked benchmarks? You seem to be ahead haha

[ashen spindle]

shes in ireland

[wheat plume]

^

[reef patrol]

Ew.

[ashen spindle]

I mean even leaked benchmarks from GN or anandtech wont be out before weekend bc they'd need to get it and start tests now

[latent mural]

GN leak benchmarks?

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume I. Might end up being able to give you my steam deck pre order

[ashen spindle]

well, them buying one of the cpus and make benchmarks with that

[wheat plume]

O??

Whut

[ashen spindle]

not leak their own NDA covered results lol

bc when rocket lake was out early it was GN and anandtech that bought one and did early access benchmarks

[latent mural]

oh right

[wheat plume]

Finally, site specific browser within Chrome uses the Client Side Decoration again...

For a while it was using a really really thin titlebar with its own buttons

Like maybe 5 pixels of titlebar

with the buttons oversized

[crisp granite]

finally

a razer book that showcases both my overwhelming masculinity and my slightly feminine side

[wheat plume]

I want a laptop in this color that is not an overpriced Razer laptop

PC Specialist do have one

I wanted it, but expensive and I didnt need it

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/notebooks/lafite-pro-14-pink/

[ashen spindle]

ohhh

intel investor call today

maybe thats why the sales leaked to boost performance

[crimson wigeon]

Are there any early benchmarks yet?

[ashen spindle]

nah not yet, only just had someone show they got retail samples

so if AT/GN buy one it would be on/after weekend for some usefull benchmarks

and then for once it could still change if a windows update is missing bc new scheduler

https://tenor.com/view/loop-infinite-gif-14889372

https://tenor.com/view/stock-market-roller-coaster-ride-amusement-park-hill-gif-5611355

[old marlin]

Wtf happened

[ashen spindle]

earnings call

havent looked at it but some part must've went down, my guess is server sales

[pale sigil]

holy shit

haha a

[crimson wigeon]

Oh no

Oh wait, oh yes! FIRE SALE!

[ashen spindle]

"Gross margin in Q4 expected to be 51.4%, which is surely Intel's lowest quarterly GM in decades!"

yikes that probably means alder lake is fucking expensive to make

[crisp granite]

intel is a shit stock then

will try to sell my stake and fast

thanks quin

[ashen spindle]

no because stock market does not follow logic xD

[crisp granite]

and neither do I

which is why I'm selling it

despite the stock market driving it up

probably gonna wait a bit to sell it though

[pale sigil]

Sockel: 1700 (LGA) • Codename: Alder Lake-S • Grafik: Intel UHD Graphics (iGPU), 32EU/256SP • TDP: 125W • Kerne: 10 (6+4) • Threads: 16 (12+4) • Basistakt: 3.70GHz • Turbotakt: 4.90GHz (1 Kern), 4.50GHz (alle Kerne) 12600k

[ashen spindle]

then my advice( that is not legally advice) is to get amd and hold it till 2023

bro

wtf

[crisp granite]

I hold a fair bit of AMD already

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale sigil]

Sockel: 1700 (LGA) • Codename: Alder Lake-S • Grafik: Intel UHD Graphics (iGPU), 32EU/256SP • TDP: 125W • Kerne: 12 (8+4) • Threads: 20 (16+4) • Basistakt: 3.60GHz • Turbotakt: 5.00GHz (1 Kern), 4.70GHz (alle Kerne)

12700k

[crisp granite]

a few thou's worth iirc

will check later

[pale sigil]

Sockel: 1700 (LGA) • Codename: Alder Lake-S • Grafik: nein • TDP: 125W • Kerne: 16 (8+8) • Threads: 24 (16+8) • Basistakt: 3.20GHz • Turbotakt: 5.30GHz (1 Kern), 5.00GHz (alle Kerne) •

12900kf

[ashen spindle]

bro

whay

[crisp granite]

Grafik: nein

Doge: nein

[ashen spindle]

anyway if amd is covered already look at ASML

[pale sigil]

?

[ashen spindle]

what was that spam for lol

[pale sigil]

oh

cos it was listed

[ashen spindle]

nothing new and it's a product listing xD

[pale sigil]

well

its clear i assumed it was

:p

[crisp granite]

nah, it's Cal being Cal

cal posts random shit at times

[ashen spindle]

nah that's lana

[crisp granite]

like when he asks me to fund his D2 addiction

lol

[crisp granite]

and hollow, pinch, etc.

the whole crew

[ashen spindle]

yeah but hollow is russian

[pale sigil]

also

Does going to insider builds screw you over still like it used to?

[crisp granite]

and pinch is Belarusian

[pale sigil]

i wanna go to the insider for android support but go back to normal when the android support goes live

[crisp granite]

I don't see the point being made

[ashen spindle]

idk me iphone sheep so me no know android

[pale sigil]

Windows insider

:p

[ashen spindle]

oh

ask mansen

[reef patrol]

Howso?

[crimson wigeon]

If you go dev ring you can never go back without a reinstall, other rings are safer

[pale sigil]

oh so insider is fine?

its just dev you cant go back?

[reef patrol]

I can hop on and off beta just fine. Which has the Ryzen fix.

[pale sigil]

retail has the ryzen fix now

[reef patrol]

Oh right. That was today

[pale sigil]

nice

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

do i have to login to my ms account

for insider?

[crimson wigeon]

Obviously how else will it know your status

[reef patrol]

Yes. But you don't need to have an MS account as your PC User.

[pale sigil]

wot

how else am i supposed to login then

[reef patrol]

A popup when you try to join? 😛

Like... always.-

[pale sigil]

i cant

the image above

[reef patrol]

When it works obviously.

You probably IP blocked it in your Pi 😛

[pale sigil]

oh shit

yes

hahaha

You were right

xD

[reef patrol]

Why do I just know these things about your setup at this point-.

[ashen spindle]

[pale sigil]

so just to be sure

i can revert back to retail right

[crimson wigeon]

Every time you install a new build you have 10 days to roll it back

If you don't do the dev ring you can hop off whenever and updates will resume once stable catches up

[pale sigil]

"In Windows Insider Program settings, expand the “Stop getting preview builds” section (by clicking it). ... After that, close Settings. The next time Microsoft releases a major, stable update to Windows 11, your PC will leave the Insider program and switch to a regular stable build."

https://github.com/HarshalKudale/EasySideload-WSA

[misty saffron]

razer makes everything pink just to appeal to e-girls

i swear to god

[pale sigil]

Oi

Pink is good

[reef patrol]

Pretty sure it was aimed at college students actually 😛

[pale sigil]

I have wnt

[ashen spindle]

they did not like the extra info in the investor call haha

[crimson wigeon]

How's the competition stonks doing?

[ashen spindle]

(thats amd)

that's an all time high I think

[misty saffron]

i wonder how the higher ups at intel feel these last 2 years

[ashen spindle]

well most of them got replaced

[misty saffron]

doubt the new ones are happy either

[ashen spindle]

I mean it takes years to change things, none of the new ones expected to turn this around in a year

[misty saffron]

i'd argue they can't even stop digging themselves a deeper grave

[ashen spindle]

ehh nah

[pale sigil]

this shit wont work

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

[young pecan]

[wheat plume]

o.o

[wheat plume]

if those games work well, that would be awesome

using kb&m for them LOL

[young pecan]

Epic. Now we can play awful mobile games on Windows.

And bully mobile gaming nerds with no M/K.

:D

[wheat plume]

:')

[pale sigil]

ur awful

[ashen spindle]

the true cross platform, time to bully console and mobile gamers at once

[wheat plume]

no me

[ashen spindle]

[young pecan]

Quin is just universes above us all, truly.

[pale sigil]

true classic

[young pecan]

Hmmm. But how to bully them both at once, I wonder?

[ashen spindle]

literally why I still play dead by daylight, to enable crossplay and just circle around xbox killers that can't turn fast enough

the game has a mobile version but it's different so they can't be bullied at the same time

[young pecan]

F

Or maybe...

Maybe we pull a Mr. Hummus and play both games with a Wii controller at the same time.

Nostrils massively flared while doing so.

[wheat plume]

Fucking Wiimote and Nunchuck combo and wreck all the noobs

[young pecan]

Fuck yeah.

[ashen spindle]

nah time to get them to make it crossplay with the mobile game and then I'll get a DDR mat to literally dance around them

[wheat plume]

hahah xd

[ashen spindle]

was gonna ask wtf is that it looks like shit

then I notice it's a mobile game haha

[pale sigil]

hmm

arrow keys work for movement

[wheat plume]

FPS game but OSU control scheme

[latent mural]

Why would you do Osu dirty like that

What did it ever do to you

[pale sigil]

booooooooooooooooo

[reef tundra]

I deny everything like a Belarusian partisan ought to

[crisp granite]

that's how we do

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-lukashenko-gif-22677079

[thorny badger]

@reef tundra

I have this guy waiting

Its like +or - 5 years

Im fine with that

getting a magnet implant has been a sensual thing

originally the thing was "glue a small magnet to your finger"

and i did and boi that was a fun time

[reef tundra]

If you need to install them, medical nurses will be your best option typically. Incase someone was wondering

[thorny badger]

eh

no

[reef tundra]

Or piercing artists

[thorny badger]

idk medical nurses can get sued and lose their license

piercing artists 100%

[reef tundra]

Just remember to sterilise everything very well

[thorny badger]

but in US it really is state to state

[reef tundra]

infections can cost digits

[thorny badger]

dangerous things sterilize all the stuff before sealing it

i have a guy that dropped out of school bc of a broken back but for the most part knows what hes doing

im going to get him to implant it

its just a big ass needle

[young pecan]

Ok why?

What does this do?

[reef tundra]

😉 I would sterilise it anyway.

[thorny badger]

people who have gotten a magnet implant said they can feel magnet fields

[young pecan]

...

[thorny badger]

which to me the ideal is sensual

[young pecan]

In what sense? That's a very careful line.

[thorny badger]

safe to say i really want to feel magnetic fields

[young pecan]

Feel as in the magnet gets tugged around and you feel the magnet get tugged around, sure.

[thorny badger]

yah

[young pecan]

Feel as in "I'm a X man, I am MAGNETO!"... no.

[thorny badger]

not tugged

more bummped

slight pull

vibrate

[young pecan]

So what, it's magnetically laced liquid or something?

[thorny badger]

no

[young pecan]

Well not liquid.

Wrong word.

[reef tundra]

It would actually allow you to perceive magnetic fields around you. The earth's/transformators/microwaveshumming/securitygates burring. The brain notices really small changes in pressure the implanted magnet exerts. 🤷 Its neat

[thorny badger]

https://dangerousthings.com/product/xg3/

[young pecan]

Holy fuck lmao.

Now that's a super dumb idea, wow.

[reef tundra]

long term is just a little problem

[young pecan]

Jesus fuck something quite so stupid I haven't seen in a while.

[thorny badger]

how is it stupid to you

[young pecan]

A strong enough field would do fairly bad damage, which obviously isn't good, and it's just a clunky solution at very best.

[reef tundra]

Then you have to hear about those antivaxx

They think the goverment would give nanomachines for free

[young pecan]

I can see it working for something a little more complex than 'inject a magnet into fingie', but this is just hyper dumb.

[thorny badger]

? wdym

im not going to a MRI anytime soon

[young pecan]

It's a magnet, a strong field will just rip it out or you or put you in enough pain that you'll injure yourself and that medical bill is not worthwhile.

[thorny badger]

or the LHC

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Try any reasonably sized neodymium magnet.

Nothing particularly rare.

[thorny badger]

ide need to go to the LHC

[young pecan]

Yeah no.

[thorny badger]

yah

[reef tundra]

That is pretty much the process. The brain has to do the rest to realise the signal and tune for those micrometre movements

[thorny badger]

yah

[young pecan]

Your body isn't a juggernaut, my dude. That kind of damage is a lot easier than you'd suspect.

[thorny badger]

you need a powerful magnet for it to be an issue

[young pecan]

Yes, I know.

Any reasonably sized neodymium magnet.

[reef tundra]

Being alive damages your body

[thorny badger]

what large magnets are you around daily

[thorny badger]

no

[young pecan]

Actually yes.

[thorny badger]

actually no

[young pecan]

Dude, the LHC and MRIs don't do what you think they do.

[thorny badger]

go ask the folk who have done it

its not an issue

[young pecan]

You don't actually need a huge magnet to get a strong field, you just need a powerful one.

[thorny badger]

they do

[thorny badger]

ok

think what you want

i cant help that

[young pecan]

Apparently not because you think putting magnets in your body only becomes a problem if you're in an MRI.

[reef tundra]

Generate few Teslas of magnetic fields to polarise those water molecules and shoot some photons to observe the results

[thorny badger]

an mri is the only thing that would be an issue for me

[young pecan]

Any magnetically locked tool could be an issue if they're using neos, for example. They tend to be commonly used because neos happen to be very stable.

[thorny badger]

ok you can think that

[young pecan]

A 200 gram magnet would pretty easily do damage.

Maybe not perm, but damage.

[reef tundra]

Heat or other strong magnetic field destroys that

[young pecan]

Aye, I know. Usually they're directional for that reason.

And kept away from heaps of friction.

[thorny badger]

nah

its really not a strong magnet

[reef tundra]

They need to be one directional or you wont be getting that charge differential

[young pecan]

The one in your finger, sure.

But that is exactly 50% of the equation.

[thorny badger]

i have a pretty large magnet doesnt even touch it

[young pecan]

Oh? Specs on it?

[thorny badger]

im done with you

[young pecan]

Kek

[thorny badger]

do some research

[young pecan]

My guy, I already did it.

[thorny badger]

nah

[young pecan]

Years ago.

Had to for projects.

[thorny badger]

k

k

[young pecan]

[thorny badger]

kek

[young pecan]

You, sir, are a very specific kind of person.

[reef tundra]

You also dont need a windturbine magnet to get enough force for the brain to register

[thorny badger]

yah

what proof do you want

like obv you have not done the research

[young pecan]

Hey man, believe what you will.

[thorny badger]

you too bud

[young pecan]

I have done the research on magnets, not magnets you put into your fingers.

[reef tundra]

99.99% pure ethanol what else

[young pecan]

Again, I had to for some safety equipment a few years ago.

[thorny badger]

ive done research on magnets you put in your finger

[thorny badger]

again ive looked this up, people that even deal with magnets even say its not an issue

[young pecan]

So you'd understand that a strong enough magnet, which do happen to be very common, can yank smaller and weaker ones around with a surprising amount of strength?

[reef tundra]

The only one that has to endure its consequences is the one installing the thing.

[young pecan]

And I also suppose you've done your research on basic biology, researching how quick you'd end up with slight nerve damage from an accident like that?

[thorny badger]

@reef tundra your cool i like you

[reef tundra]

Freedom 🇺🇸 bruther. yee yee this aint china

[thorny badger]

idk go ask the folk that deal with it

[reef tundra]

[young pecan]

Ah, so that's a no.

Kek

[thorny badger]

ok then dont learn

thats fine

[young pecan]

Like you, yes.

[thorny badger]

anyway ima get it done

you can have you opinion

ill have mine

[young pecan]

Ah cool, kek.

[thorny badger]

magnets are cool

[thorny badger]

kek

[young pecan]

It's a neo magnet encased in there.

[thorny badger]

kek

[young pecan]

Roughly 15k gauss.

[reef tundra]

Freedom to lose your finger or somethign because you chose to do it knowingly and it went terribly wrong. freedom at its best

[thorny badger]

honestly fair

[young pecan]

Yeah, if you shoved that against a slightly strong magnet you'd end with a fair amount of pain.

[thorny badger]

kek

[young pecan]

Or anything stronger than a half kilo would end up moving it around.

Anything stronger than a kilo would rip it out.

Which is... WAY less powerful than an MRI.

[thorny badger]

kek

[young pecan]

"i DiD mY REseARCh"

[reef tundra]

🤷 Know what you are risking and if you are willing to bear the consequences in hope of the benefits

[thorny badger]

kek

people who have had one installed can go through an MRI @young pecan

[young pecan]

Yeah I am not sure if I believe that whatsoever.

Going through an MRI you get zippers with slightly higher gauss ripped from your pants and thrown up into the machine.

[thorny badger]

thats fair, believe what you want

[young pecan]

Slightly higher.

[reef tundra]

You are a facebook group, I am a bing search. We are not the same

[young pecan]

Having an embedded like that? It'd defo move around, probably do a little damage.

Worst case rip out.

[thorny badger]

ima get a magnet implanted show me the research

[young pecan]

Not so much research as basic math, tbh.

[thorny badger]

Show me

[young pecan]

Gimmie a few mins to compile shit.

[thorny badger]

go on

show your work

show mri specs

show me the every day magnet specs

[young pecan]

https://socratic.org/questions/how-does-distance-affect-magnetic-force So we first need basics like the inverse square law to understand why MRIs are mostly harmless.

[thorny badger]

go do the math

[young pecan]

The distance between the actual machine and your fingertips is going to be less powerful by proportion than a 200 gram neodymium magnet at your fingers tips.

We can measure this pretty accurately.

[thorny badger]

i want full equations written on paper

[young pecan]

[thorny badger]

go do the math

then with the math explain why people have not had issue

[young pecan]

My dude, shh.

[thorny badger]

yah

[young pecan]

You're assuming perfect blacks and whites, reality doesn't exist like that.

It just does not.

[thorny badger]

im not going to any powerful magnet in my every day life

[young pecan]

Kinda, but that isn't nearly the only major risk.

[thorny badger]

like what do you want

[reef tundra]

Parasitic characteristics only are relevant in edge cases

[thorny badger]

bye

[young pecan]

Lmfao. Bye m8.

<3

[reef tundra]

Imagine, we are able to do hip replacements

[young pecan]

Ah.

I probably should do this.

[reef tundra]

🤔 I hear titanium to be well suited for bio-compatibility critical purposes

[young pecan]

@thorny badger https://dangerousthings.com/product/xg3/ On this site the first warning is such.

Now what was that earlier...

[young pecan]

Hmmm.

[thorny badger]

bio-compatibility has been solved

titanium and glass

[young pecan]

Wait it's glass?

[reef tundra]

Mostly legal, liability is something not desirable for businesses bottomline

[young pecan]

I mean... be really careful I guess?

Fuck I don't even want to think about glass shards deep in your body.

[thorny badger]

ive bloked him he really does not know what hes talking about

[reef tundra]

Noble metals like gold, platinum, iridium would also be unreactive

[young pecan]

Iridium.

[thorny badger]

legally they cant say its MRI compatible

[reef tundra]

not sure if your body tissue also likes to bind with those tho (noble metals)

[young pecan]

Jeez man, iridium is super expensive.

[reef tundra]

You only need a coating 😉

[thorny badger]

people have said they have gone through with more powerful ones and just taped up their skin

[young pecan]

5k USD for 28 grams for a dense metal isn't great even with that.

[reef tundra]

Gold coatings are micrometers thicc

[thorny badger]

the scar tissue heals over it

gold was the standard

[reef tundra]

One problem: scar tissue has no receptors in them

[young pecan]

Lotta believing he said she said for someone banking on it to be right.

[young pecan]

Depends on the size of the needle, I guess?

[thorny badger]

yah but they move other receptors

[young pecan]

Might not be... uber bad.

[reef tundra]

One plus is your body is really good at sensing pressure

insanely good

[thorny badger]

im not too concerned, the biohacking community is pretty large and this has been tested for 12+ years

the one i have is simple

[young pecan]

Kinda stupid design still.

[thorny badger]

it prob wont work as well

[young pecan]

Yeah it'd let you feel weak magnetic fields, but low res.

[thorny badger]

as the nicer ones

[young pecan]

Making a really advanced version would just need super fine implantation.

[thorny badger]

Yo dude ive blocked you i have no clue what your saying

[young pecan]

[thorny badger]

you seem to have a good understanding of the medical side

[young pecan]

@reef tundra Reckon there's a good way to suspend like 50 contained micro magnets in your hands?

Spread around, it'd let you get a feel for it better.

'Cause you couldn't just put them in, small enough magnets would just start moving around, and that kinda defeats the purpose.

[thorny badger]

anyway, im still going to get it done

[young pecan]

Maybe if you tied them in a weave or something to keep them stable?

[reef tundra]

It would be easier to use one big magnet and a lot of receptors instead ?

[young pecan]

Well that's true, but it lacks fidelity.

[reef tundra]

Which are plenty in your hands and feet

[thorny badger]

lot of receptors in the hadn

but larger then you actually would have issues

[young pecan]

Not particularly liking the lack of fidelity, still.

[reef tundra]

majority of your receptors are located there. Only the tongue would be more densely in receptor density

[thorny badger]

the implantable ones tend to be like the right size to not to to what this one guy who has not done his research is saying

[thorny badger]

people have said to get them in the peen

[young pecan]

I question why that'd be even remotely useful.

Well, not why so much as why practically speaking.

I suppose if your partner does the same thing.

[thorny badger]

This other guy is almost right but hes not

[reef tundra]

What if you need to align your pissing with the earth magnetic field? huh?

[young pecan]

Pissing on a whole other level.

[reef tundra]

Lucky you to have that magnet to guide you

[young pecan]

Just have every building renod for your magnetic field pissing adventures.

[thorny badger]

Getting it in the peen allows you to aim right in the morning 😂

That morning piss is no longer an issue

I better stop

I might just

Sounding with a magnet

[reef tundra]

🤔 sound.. magnet.. 😈 ohhhh my speakers and microphones might be able... 👀 ]

[thorny badger]

Cough

Erm

Sounding is a weee bit different

Aeon knows what sounding is

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033

Its heracy

[reef tundra]

dont combine penile magnets and speakers

That is what the lord , Me, has proclaimed

[thorny badger]

Who knows ive loved magnets for ages now

[young pecan]

Ngl I could go for some ID implants. Been meaning to get into that for years.

[thorny badger]

Might be all i need now for true love

[young pecan]

Should see about the tech.

[reef tundra]

Get a vaccine

[young pecan]

I'm already 2.4g enabled, my dude.

[reef tundra]

jk doesnt even fit hehe

[young pecan]

Getting that 5g soon.

[reef tundra]

😎 Gamma radiation or im walking

Its fast

wavy boy

wooble wooble

[thorny badger]

Ah see hes actually funny when hes not just straight up trying to call me a dummy

[reef tundra]

|| and will rip your dna to shreds || but who cares

Why cant 5g also do that

it is a scam

[thorny badger]

@young pecan would you get an injectable rfid tag?

[young pecan]

I call stupid things stupid when they're stupid, outside of that I do be having a sense of humor.
I see you're also still reading my messages.

But yeah, probably later down the track.

Implants and genome editing I am 1000% for, it's also just able to be a retarded tech.

[reef tundra]

Basically a copper wire that has just enough energy to remit its stored memory

[thorny badger]

Yah i decided to see if you were still saying stupid stuff

Turns out you still kinda are

[young pecan]

I'm not the one injecting low res magneting arrays to try and feel magnetic fields.

[thorny badger]

[young pecan]

Either go overkill for it or keep saving.

Fuck I can imagine how nifty that technology would be if you really start scaling it.

[thorny badger]

Im not the one who says its stupid

[reef tundra]

Seize all life functions to not suffer from the dreaded oxidative stress

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[young pecan]

It's still a low res way of doing it, like boasting about having a gen 3 phone.

Yes better than nothing, but we're admittedly right on the cusp of WAY better.

[reef tundra]

1000 years from now anything will be seen as primitive

[young pecan]

Fuck ikr.

[thorny badger]

Could have just been like "eh idk" and left it at that but you decide to say some dumb stuff

[young pecan]

Hilarious.

[thorny badger]

Anyway what's your opinion on rfid tags

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-thats-so-funny-i-laugh-so-hard-gif-13829693

[thorny badger]

Yes you are

[young pecan]

Waiting for something a little better.

[thorny badger]

Same told you what i wanted

[young pecan]

I'm good doing it if we can get something that can flex.

[thorny badger]

Anyway, whats your opinion on rfid tags

Oh

[young pecan]

Implanting RFID stuff now in my arm or top of my hand is the height of stupidity.

[thorny badger]

Dangerous things has flex ones

[young pecan]

We are pretty much right at the stage of palm implants.

[young pecan]

Yeah sure, but you have to put them around the side of your hand or it's a little iffy.

I want true middle of the palm multi ID implants.

Tech isn't too far out, though. Still waiting.

[reef tundra]

Entropy insists on its share 😈

[young pecan]

Then again I suppose if I decide to go under the knife for a while I can do it.

Maybe implant something closer to the bones.

Less movement there.

[thorny badger]

😄

ty

[reef tundra]

We have been microchipping our pets for decades now

🤷 seems to work

[young pecan]

Well sure, but it's an inelegant solution, lacks power.

[thorny badger]

implantable magnets thankfully are not strong

[reef tundra]

Why bother making it active powered instead of passively?

[young pecan]

Ah but that's not what I said.

[reef tundra]

Just need to send a few bytes

[young pecan]

I want something I can use for a multitude of stuff, not just occasionally sending a few bytes here and there.

[reef tundra]

can I sell you on a novel inventive product called a mobile phone. It even plays your video games, ads and lootbox gambling.

[young pecan]

[reef tundra]

👀 it even has military grade GPS .. if you forget about the anti-missile resistriction.

[young pecan]

Actually tbh this isn't a huge barrier to entry.

I could pretty easily see myself cutting a bit out for a low profile battery.

[reef tundra]

But its cheaper without all that

[young pecan]

rolls eyes I'm the guy doing crypto, last thing I give a fuck about is cost.

[reef tundra]

You will love corporate meetings. Bickering about saving costs to the last cent and keep using outdated hardware costing who knows and who even knows how they managed to find one

[young pecan]

That's one of the reasons I no longer work for other people.

[reef tundra]

If it works dont fix

cobolt is modern enough

[young pecan]

Omfg please shut up.

[reef tundra]

who cares the manufactures went bankrupt 20 years ago

[young pecan]

sad COBOL noises

[reef tundra]

we must get that specific plc using a casset tape because that is good

[young pecan]

Oh lmfao, cassette tapes.

Admittedly really hyper good storage for cheap, but only sometimes.

[reef tundra]

Hey hey, atleast you dont have to manually insert the code with a phone dial

[cursive summit]

https://www.eetimes.com/intels-10nm-node-past-present-and-future/

Old article, but Alder has yield issues, meaning it'll be severely overpriced to be considered a value product

[halcyon moss]

RFID tags are already everywhere.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/NBTws4KoPtg

Their window manager is neat..

It's called Shuffler

Yeah

He moving to new house

been busy af with that!

same xd he said it in this video

He makes me hate most other distro reviewers....

The ones that act really stupid and test shit in VM
and then complain when any issues caused by running it in a VM occur and say the distro is shit because of it

cough cough distrotube cough cough

Egee is great

And Tyler, and InfinitelyGalactic

dont watch last guy much though

He seems to be slowly preferring Windows once again

Just when Linux is becoming great......Windows 11 happened
🤔 Clickbait title?! idk

Ubuntu Budgie is very tempting..... I love the default dark theme, nice balance of different dark shades and its not totally flat and hard to make out different sections of the UI like a lot of other dark themes

I do not like the Budgie system tray

it seems so jank and tossed together

ok, this style is not the worst

global menu :O

The only desktops I knew could do that was Plasma and Cutefish

but Budgie is based on Gnome desktop, so 90% of apps wont use the global menu

[wheat plume]

I decided imma use Ubuntu Budgie on my new laptop

[crimson wigeon]

It's distro hop o'clock!

[wheat plume]

yeah, on my new laptop that is hopefully arriving today that doesnt have an OS on it

this time, it is required hopping!

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume isn't that the same as w11 lol (window management)

[wheat plume]

Sort of but its in an applet and not on the window itself

Same, on my desktop!

Ubuntu seems to have better battery life on my current laptop

[pale sigil]

Lana using arch?

Lies

[wheat plume]

Yes, 90% Arch

no

Manjaro has its own kernel and software

and policies

its 90% arch

and that 10% is one custom app and some bash scripts and aliases and repos that are optional

3

[pale sigil]

Lana you can't even run git via the terminal :o

Nvm running arch

[wheat plume]

LOL

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

I have used git via terminal

truth

[pale sigil]

How is it more convenient than just typing a few words xD

More tools etc

[crimson wigeon]

When you're doing fancy crap I guess

[pale sigil]

Vscode then

[wheat plume]

ooo.. theme update

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

is there one? hmm one sec

oh

I give it custom args, I only install the theme with the tweaks I want, if I used the AUR package, it would install them all

[pale sigil]

I will never go arch ngl

[crimson wigeon]

But if you don't use it you can never butt in to conversations like "Arch btw"!

[wheat plume]

ahaha

[young pecan]

Ngl this is most of Linux.

[wheat plume]

or use Arco, where most things are handled for you

[young pecan]

Being a dev/sysadmin just gives you crazy control, kinda what Linux is built for.

[wheat plume]

lol

if you are already fine on a Chromebook, you will fall in love with Linux, maybe

[young pecan]

Oh god, those.

[wheat plume]

cause you can do chromebook things and more

[young pecan]

Keyboard tripped me up so hard the first time.

[wheat plume]

huh?

[young pecan]

Yep.

This shit.

[wheat plume]

There was one time, I updated my system and that caused me to boot into a black screen cause the nvidia drivers update didnt like the newest kernel
so I had to revert and I found a reddit post from nvidia saying do not upgrade the drivers until they make a new driver

[young pecan]

Didn't realize it was a Chromebook, thought it was an ultrabook.

[wheat plume]

wtf

search key where caps lock should be

[young pecan]

Yep.

[wheat plume]

you must use shift for caps lock?

[young pecan]

Yes.

[wheat plume]

Steam Deck... xd

^ definetly

[young pecan]

Nothing, but it still tripped me up a little.

[wheat plume]

It will have to use them for core system shit

but for anything Valve did, they will make their own

[crimson wigeon]

Much like how Chrome OS is Gentoo based but does any normie using it know that?

[wheat plume]

GENTOO!?

WUT

That is pretty odd choice

[young pecan]

Just be a chad and program a new OS using assembly.

No need for Linux distros.

[crimson wigeon]

Honestly I'd like to use something like Haiku

[wheat plume]

Haiku's window manager is awesome

[wheat plume]

AAAHHHHHHHHH
The laptop just arrived :D

oh one sec

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/notebooks/lafiteV-14/

[reef patrol]

Lafite? More like... La... fite me

[wheat plume]

shhhhh

xd

ikr ;-;

[reef patrol]

soldered RAM

[wheat plume]

16gb is plenty for my laptop though

my current was 8gb and that was enough for me

[crimson wigeon]

Oh cool can throw out Windows and save some €

[reef patrol]

I do - Also it helps longevity for repairs a ton 😄

[wheat plume]

Literally what I did xd

It does come with Windows regardless, cause they use it fr testing
but its not activated

so if you have a digital license like I do I just login to activate it LOL

saved 120 euro!

They do nag you when you go to checkout, about how the warranty doesnt cover you if you install Linux or use pirated windows

so...as soon as I install Linux on this thing, my warranty goes out the window

It doesnt

[chrome estuary]

ex-fucking-cuse me?

^

[wheat plume]

the website says that

[chrome estuary]

their warranty for software support maybe but not hardware

[reef patrol]

For the umpteenth time you're in the EU Avanna xD xD

YOU HAVE TWO YEARS WARRANTY - BY LAW

[wheat plume]

ooh

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

how activate that?

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah Irexit hasn't happened yet

[reef patrol]

You don't.

[chrome estuary]

that doesn't say your warranty is invalid

it says they can't help you with linux

[reef patrol]

If something breaks you contact the seller and ask them to fix it. And if they refuse due to... whatever crap they write on the website, you kindly remind them that the law applies whether they like it or not 😄

[crimson wigeon]

Which means if you send it in it'll probably come back with a Windows

[wheat plume]

thought support meant warranty for hardware

[chrome estuary]

no

they would specifically state that

[wheat plume]

sounds like id need to install windows on it before I send it back if I need to

[reef patrol]

Just keep in mind - 99% of the time they wipe the SSD or outright replace it. Do not expect your data to be saved, ever 😄

[wheat plume]

otherwise they sendf it back unfixed

[chrome estuary]

not if it's a hardware problem

[wheat plume]

hardwar problems, theyd install windows anyway on it

to test

[reef patrol]

This is how they find out if it's a software problem. Fresh install of Windows works fine? Yep. Not our problem.

[wheat plume]

true

its so thin!!

[reef patrol]

Yes - So don't sit on it and be careful about having it in a backpack.

They bend way too easily xD

[wheat plume]

the screen is already pre-dusty! great

[chrome estuary]

speaking of thin. the damn m1 mba is thin as hell as well.

[reef patrol]

It can't get hot if there's no air inside to heat up.

https://tenor.com/view/guy-with-black-jacket-think-guy-use-your-head-be-smart-gif-11872911

[wheat plume]

LOL

And it's a metal case!

So cold aha

[chrome estuary]

i love how people react when i tell them that the mba doesn't have a fan.

[wheat plume]

how they react?XD

Should I charge this before I switch it on?

[chrome estuary]

nah

[crimson wigeon]

No just buy a new one when the battery runs out

[reef patrol]

Can't hurt. They often drain their batteries from being on shelves for a long time.

[crisp granite]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-10-21-razer-zephyr-review-relic-of-a-dark-future

Lolwut

[reef patrol]

I always recommend plugging it in and waiting 30mins or so before turning it on for the first time.

[wheat plume]

Oooo
Is that a fingerprint scanner?!

[reef patrol]

Just so it doesn't croak on the first power-on

[wheat plume]

croak?

[reef patrol]

Kick the bucket.

[wheat plume]

o.o

[reef patrol]

Turn off cause no battery 😛

[wheat plume]

I assume there is some battery power after their testing

[reef patrol]

Testing? Haha

That laptop has probably been in a box for 3 months.

[wheat plume]

they do test them after the building

[reef patrol]

That laptop hasn't been touched since it was in the factory.

[wheat plume]

no no, they build as you order...unless you order one prebuilt

I added a larger ssd and no OS

[reef patrol]

Hmm... I'm still going to guess they never touched it and it was just another SKU.

But sure. Could be. Still... just plug it in before powering it on just in case 😄

[wheat plume]

no, they do build them, there is a damn customiser in the website

[reef patrol]

You'd be surprised how many different variants exist in warehouses for OEMs.

[old marlin]

they just are spreaded weirdly

so you get latvian machines and stuff

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https://tenor.com/view/vodka-gif-21557121

[old marlin]

my previous dell at work was like that

[wheat plume]

the keys are massive

[old marlin]

which one even is that

[wheat plume]

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/notebooks/lafiteV-14/