🔌│tech

[crimson wigeon]

Memes

[vagrant elk]

At least I don't use Gentoo on my my VPS. I met someone that did that and asked why they did it, they said "Gentoo is the best distribution" at which point I stopped talking to them.

[reef tundra]

You see, the compiler is going brr

[vagrant elk]

That reminds me of a movie where they had a hacking scene and, I wish I was joking, the hacker typed sudo pacman -Syu.

No editing or anything. It was just a Linux update to show "hacking".

[reef tundra]

should have typed yay

[vagrant elk]

Okay some products are just getting stupid. I just got a Brave ad for "Heatbit", an electric heater than mines Bitcoin.

[crisp granite]

that is the stupidest pitch I ever heard

[vagrant elk]

No, Doge, you don't understand. The advertisement says it makes me money by having it on!

I could imagine the heater just being 10 Bitcoin miners crammed into a tiny plastic shell and like 12 power cords.

I know that isn't the product though, the price would be far too high.

[reef tundra]

Yo, A SIC deal they offer. Only one gen behind
It does heat

Technically electric heaters are 100% efficient

[iron wave]

Yes.

Also my parents think they are over unity for some reason.

[vagrant elk]

I wish I was lying but when I read the brand name "Heatbit" I thought it was a Fitbit with a heater built-in to keep your wrist warm.

[reef tundra]

Energy production and transportation is where the losses hide

[iron wave]

Like one that is huge and draws 1KW will produce more heat than a small one that draws 1KW and those both produce more heat than a computer that draws 1KW.

That's what they think.

So in the winter when I run F@H they yell at me for wasting power.

[iron wave]

Skin effect goes brrrrrr.

[vagrant elk]

My PinePhone is being weird. It says duckduckgo.com doesn't work but resolves ecosia.org.

[reef tundra]

Just means we can put aluminium in the core, pure copper would break under its own weight that far between the towers

[iron wave]

$ dig duckduckgo.com

[reef tundra]

Everyone getting solar panels helps to lower that transportation losses atleast

[iron wave]

My parents think they are full of cadmium and lead and will rip the roof off if it's windy.

:-D

[vagrant elk]

Nope, my PinePhone doesn't register duckduckgo.com as existing.

I mean, my PinePhone does but not inside of WayDroid which is a virtualised Android.

[iron wave]

I've never heard of that, got a link?

[vagrant elk]

Have you heard of Anbox? If so it's just a newer version of Anbox that works more like WINE. It translates Android system calls to something Linux can understand and virtualises everything like that. It's like having an Android phone inside of Linux.

[iron wave]

Android is Linux.

[vagrant elk]

Android is a fork of Linux. That's like saying MacOS is BSD.

[iron wave]

But yeah, I don't like that one if it's what I'm thinking of.

[reef tundra]

Why would they bother if cadmium and lead make them unsellable in the EU under RoHS. Especially you can make them without it

[iron wave]

They run the Linux kernel.

[vagrant elk]

https://github.com/WayDroid

[iron wave]

Anbox is the one where you need the kernel modules right?

[vagrant elk]

WayDroid requires them as well.

[iron wave]

Oh that's lame.

[vagrant elk]

Most Linux distributions for the PinePhone don't have it through what I have tested so I stick to Arch Linux since it has them not only included but enabled by default.

[wheat plume]

We now have a a machine we can use for whatever we like

My previous computer

[pale sigil]

alienware?

[wheat plume]

Yep

Meant to run steamOS but valve delayed it so they sent it out with windows

Tossed in an Xbox controller also

And some games that played well with the case lights

[vagrant elk]

Is that a mini ATX or micro ATX PC?

That thing is so tiny it's adorable.

[wheat plume]

Pretty sure its all custom

at least the mobo and the GPU

the CPU is a standard laptop one

[pale sigil]

runn linux on it

[vagrant elk]

Still an interesting little PC!

[wheat plume]

Yeah, my friend is setting up proxmox

Hes got it installed already

[wheat plume]

Intel core i5, 4th gen
GTX 860M
8GB Ram

[vagrant elk]

Oh, it just uses a mobile platform GPU, neat! Kind of expected with a small form factor but those things are still really good!

[wheat plume]

This is much smaller than small form factor xd

my new fucking computer is considered SFF ffs xd

and this thing aint small

[pale sigil]

turn it into a nas

[vagrant elk]

Then attach a NAS to the NAS.

[wheat plume]

I'll try to find a photo of my other one

[vagrant elk]

I've actually seen people do that where they chain multiple NAS('s?) together and then one drive in the one they are connected to is actually like 18 drives or something stupid.

[wheat plume]

o.o

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/dutch-amazon-begins-listing-intel-core-i9-12900k-at-847-eur-other-alder-lake-cpus-listed-as-well cheap new supply of cpus coming right up

[vagrant elk]

I wonder if the 12900k will out-perform the 11900k which was a "complete waste of sand" as Gamers Nexus put it.

[ashen spindle]

ofc it will

[shadow minnow]

Don’t call my cpu that 😦
Even though my first dying day one definitely was

[wheat plume]

Found some photos of it

[vagrant elk]

I mean, the 11900k was worse than the 10900k in a lot of cases and better in others, it was trading blows with its previous generation. I don't know what to expect from Intel until they can start doing stuff with a smaller process, 14nm is near its limits or at least is being pushed to limits that are kind of crazy for the platform.

[wheat plume]

shown next to an SSD box for sort of a size comparison

[ashen spindle]

well yeah because it was a backport to 14nm

alder lake is not 14nm

[vagrant elk]

Fair enough. The 12900k is on a new node process right?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[vagrant elk]

Like, for real this time, we're actually passed 14nm?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[vagrant elk]

In that case, I'm kind of excited to see what Intel has made. It's about time!

[vagrant elk]

That thing is adorably tiny.

[wheat plume]

Intel... not on 14nm?!! What a wonderful world!!!

[shadow minnow]

New mode may be around 7nm level but can’t say for sure, also since we don’t know which exactly mode is it gonna be. Should be better than TSMC 10nm but how good exactly is it gonna be, we don’t know.

[wheat plume]

the case + cooling is a majority of it's size actually

The black plastic is just the outer part and the computer is inside a metal frame and the whle thing is basically a single board with a 2.5 inch drive bay on the underside

[ashen spindle]

except we have chips from it already so we do know how it does

[vagrant elk]

I don't know why but seeing small computers makes me happy.

Seeing large computers also makes me happy. You know, the giant behemoths that are used for custom water cooling loops and such.

[wheat plume]

it is very adorable indeed!

[vagrant elk]

I think my next build if I were to do one will be a small form factor.

[wheat plume]

Im still shocked my new computer is considered SFF

cause its fucking massive compared to my old one LOL

[shadow minnow]

Wish you could just make and order (small quantity of) a custom small fan radiator to use it with Mitx mobo in possibly custom mitx case, would be cool.

[vagrant elk]

I forget where it cuts off. 14 litre cases are small form factor for many many people.

I think small form factor is misleading because a lot of people take it as "smaller than my giant behemoth" which is quite easy to beat.

[wheat plume]

My friend's case is shorted than mine

but a lot wider

and his is considered the next size up compared to mine

[vagrant elk]

I've seen some that are extremely small in terms of width and height but then are tall to make everything fit.

[shadow minnow]

My, well, first case apparently has 56l volume

[wheat plume]

wow

[shadow minnow]

And it’s not even that big compared to some

[vagrant elk]

Mine is far from small form factor, about as far from it as you can get. The O11D-XL is quite large.

[shadow minnow]

Two thick 360 rads and pump reservoir combo already make it basically full, apart from mobo space. Add GPU and it would seem small

[wheat plume]

never would have guessed that from the name!!

[vagrant elk]

I'm just dumb and type faster than my brain thinks so I often type things that are obvious.

[wheat plume]

ooo

is pretty

[vagrant elk]

Imagine that but with no tubing, no water cooling, no RGB. Just a black abyss. That's my PC.

[wheat plume]

oh, this is one of the cases where the mobo is wider than the plate its on so you need a support thing

[shadow minnow]

Like, this already makes it look so small, not a lot of space left

[wheat plume]

Gurl... you wanna talk about black abyss?

My computer

the only light in the case is the GPU power indicator led

[vagrant elk]

Not really, the case supports every motherboard size that's considered "standard" so I could use a mini ITX motherboard in this behemoth if I wanted.

[wheat plume]

ooohhh

[shadow minnow]

I hate how you can’t turn of the indicator stuff

[wheat plume]

^

[vagrant elk]

You just have to put the standoffs in yourself for your motherboard size.

[shadow minnow]

I am just not a fan of any lights when sleeping and if I need to have pc on…

[vagrant elk]

The only light in my PC is the white LED for the motherboard start button.

[wheat plume]

tbf, thats the only way I can tell if my computer is getting power when turned off

[shadow minnow]

Also red, why red, only red things in my pc

[wheat plume]

my mobo has a breathing orange hue coming from the back of it and idk why or how to turn it off

its always there even when the computer is off

except if no wall power, duh

[shadow minnow]

For me it’s not white. It’s red and orange IO cmos and other thing, red power button, and orange bios select button. And red debug thing. Also sometimes red troubleshooting leds

[vagrant elk]

Do you have lighting options in your BIOS? Mine were buried under I think it was the F9 menu with no other way to access it. Took me quite a while to notice it was there.

[ashen spindle]

go to your boards website and look in the manual to see how to disable it

[vagrant elk]

I do get motherboard error codes while it's booting though so if it ever has an error I know what caused it.

Once it's booted they turn off.

[ashen spindle]

or google it, most boards are likely to have people asking about that on reddit or similar sites

[vagrant elk]

Or DuckDuckGo it!

[cedar zodiac]

Wooting two he vs wooting two Keller edition?

What’s the difference

They both seem to have the same features or am I wrong

[wheat plume]

Other people are complaning about the GPU power LED also

[vagrant elk]

Keycaps and anodising.

[ashen spindle]

lekker is limited run to kickstart it and sold out

functionally the same

[cedar zodiac]

Ok

[vagrant elk]

The Lekker edition had custom anodising and custom keycaps which are no longer available. That's the only difference.

[wheat plume]

lekker is prettier with custom keycap colors and symbols

[shadow minnow]

Still don’t have my pc with me.
With GPU it would imo look quite full.
But these two bend series were such a nightmare. And the fact that I am gonna have to do some more connected bends when GPU

[vagrant elk]

I see a flow indicator and bright RGB, must be a water cooling build.

[ashen spindle]

no it's a gpu-less build

[vagrant elk]

With an AMD processor?

[shadow minnow]

No luckily

[vagrant elk]

Oh okay, that would've been the ultimate meme.

[shadow minnow]

It has at least iGPU

[cedar zodiac]

Will a wooting two tkl keyboard be coming out soon or only full size?

[vagrant elk]

Full size and 60%. That's it for now.

Don't expect anything else for at least 1-2 years.

[ashen spindle]

not tkl but 60%, check #📣│announcements for that, otherwise #archived_questions_answers for further questions please

[shadow minnow]

For some time while waiting for cpu replacement I had water just running arround in a loop with just PSU as actual component

[ashen spindle]

and amd has cpus with gpu, so not like that would've instantly meant rip

[shadow minnow]

Another meme is that my pc is still in Slovakia smh

[pale sigil]

i mean

not like its any use

need that sweet gpui

[shadow minnow]

Still could play some games with iGPU

[vagrant elk]

I feel like you'd enjoy the Blank Pink PBT keycaps and desk mat.

Desk mat: https://www.apexkeyboards.ca/collections/deskmats/products/blank-pink-deskmat
Keycaps: https://kbdfans.com/products/gb-epbt-blank-pink-keycaps-set

[shadow minnow]

Better than on a phone

[pale sigil]

dont have a laptop?

[vagrant elk]

Tiny bit too bright for my liking but they look really good, quite cute.

[shadow minnow]

Even though I am pretty sure my phone has a more powerful GPU

[ashen spindle]

at this rate zen4 and next gen gpus will be out and your pc is still mising a dGPU

[wheat plume]

Wait wtf?! No LAN???

So shit like localhost wont work?

[shadow minnow]

Not sure about next gen GPUs but zen 4 and alder lake, possibly

[ashen spindle]

cmon lana... context...

[wheat plume]

laptop spec

[shadow minnow]

That’s normal

[ashen spindle]

then it probably just means no lan port

[vagrant elk]

Time for one of the two following options:

Aliases
LAN card if it can support it

[wheat plume]

ethernet?

[vagrant elk]

Generally no LAN on a device simply means it doesn't come with an ethernet port by default.

[ashen spindle]

yeah most laptops dont have ethernet ports anymore

[vagrant elk]

#archived_questions_answers

[shadow minnow]

Pre 2010 MacBook Air with half not working keyboard, broken track bar and no other mouse or keyboard with me? Yes
Did not really had another to bring, if I wanted to could take the one I normally used to use but for multiple reasons didn’t. Didn’t want any, just need pc to be here

Considered iPad mostly for notes and school stuff but not gonna waste money on it, not enough usecases for it too

[vagrant elk]

Imagine having an inferior data transfer speed with your proprietary connector so you use USB-C on all your devices but are hanging on for your life with the last device that has it, your phones. Meanwhile the EU is knocking on your door requiring everything to be USB-C so even if you tried to revive it and make it better you can't.

Must be weird to be Apple right now.

[wheat plume]

I fucking HOPE that law passes

[ashen spindle]

idk given usbc came out like 4 years later or so I feel like they got what they needed from it

[wheat plume]

and is enforced

[vagrant elk]

Avanna new picture? owo

[wheat plume]

Same photo, inverted colors and some blood dripping from lips :P

[vagrant elk]

I kind of figured it was inverted, just wasn't 100% sure.

I thought she had a choker too. Maybe it just doesn't show properly with inverted colours? Or am I losing my mind?

[wheat plume]

she do have choker xd

[vagrant elk]

Anime girl + choker = 10 more cute points.

[wheat plume]

^^^

I want a choker so badly

but my neck is long and thicc my adams apple is fucking huge ;-;

[vagrant elk]

Hard to find one that looks good too.

[wheat plume]

yes

non will look good on me

[vagrant elk]

The most common one is the black one with two wires constantly overlapping. Hard to explain with words. These things.

[wheat plume]

oohh yes

[vagrant elk]

Maybe it's just me but I don't like it compared to just a pure black stripe for a choker.

[wheat plume]

I prefer solid thicker ones

[vagrant elk]

Okay, not just me. Good.

[wheat plume]

:')

[vagrant elk]

At least you can get the Adam's apple shaved a bit to make it less noticecable.

[wheat plume]

id need that OP like 3 fucking times to get the bump gone

[shadow minnow]

It’s bad as a law imo tbh, since it’s kinda thing that countries or EU should not have control over even if it’s better, since it’s not really gonna reduce waste or anything. Also I kinda wish iPhones would go portless tbh.

[wheat plume]

portless

wtf no

ok, at least a charging port cause fuck wireless charging

[shadow minnow]

I don’t use the port basically at all

[vagrant elk]

Definitely not port-less. Never.

[wheat plume]

Wireless charging overheats the phone like crazy

[shadow minnow]

And rather more battery and Apple Watch level waterproofness for me tbh

[vagrant elk]

I need that for transferring data quite consistently across my devices.

[wheat plume]

KDE Connect

<3

can send shit wirelessly from computer and phone

[vagrant elk]

I can't use KDE Connect with the Cosmic desktop environment that Pop!_OS has sadly.

[wheat plume]

yeah, you can

The GSConnect gnome extension

[vagrant elk]

Yes, Pop!_OS now has their own desktop environment. It is a fork of Gnome but they feel it's different enough to call it their own.

[shadow minnow]

Especially if they would make like high frequency short band transfer thing so you could have MagSafe thing with high transfer speeds. I mean, wifi 6 is already in theory faster than lightning and with very short distance wireless data transfer you would maybe be able to match usb c speeds

[wheat plume]

does it have a system tray?

[vagrant elk]

Huh, Avanna over here teaching me new things.

[wheat plume]

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1319/gsconnect/

here, try it

[vagrant elk]

What do you mean by system tray?

[wheat plume]

this

where app indicators live

and the wifi and battery and whatnot

[vagrant elk]

At the top, yes. They also have a MacOS-like bar at the bottom which is optional.

[wheat plume]

THEN THIS SHOULD WORK! its gnome underneat

[vagrant elk]

Tapping the super key brings up a launcher now instead of the applications menu which is actually quite nice.

You can still open the application menu by clicking it in the top left if you prefer.

[wheat plume]

It lives in the gnome dropdown

my phone on 71% battery
good to know

@vagrant elk If you have regular KDE Connect installed, remove it, cause this extension includes it

[vagrant elk]

I have a feeling that I'll be using it a lot between my PinePhone and Pop!_OS.

[shadow minnow]

Very likely not buying 13 pro max but wish my phone had its battery life.
But also the new cameras and 10-120hz

[wheat plume]

Then get the regular 13

[shadow minnow]

Just skipping 13s most likely

May go for like 14 pro max but after that I don’t expect to buy a new phone in at least two to five years

[shadow minnow]

Care too much about cameras tbh. Probably more than 120hz which it unfortunately idk why misses so probably would not.

[vagrant elk]

Always keep your phone for as long as you can stand to. It substantially reduces e-waste. I hate e-waste.

[shadow minnow]

My phone is not going to waste after upgrading at all

[vagrant elk]

Always sell the old device, keep it around, give it to someone else, or recycle it as well.

[ashen spindle]

quite obvious why, so people who want it need to pay more

[wheat plume]

Sadly, the condition my mom left her previous phones in.... you cant do shit to make them useable again

.-.

shattered glass, broken displays, the metal back dented

[vagrant elk]

I just absolutely hate e-waste. If someone can still make use of their old devices, I'll encourage it in any way possible.

[shadow minnow]

My phone probably just will go to family phone cycle, actually only reason I was considering upgrading that soon this time

[vagrant elk]

My sibling loves Apple phones so every year that they get a new phone they keep the old one and they somehow manage to have multiple of them dead at the same time. With them having I think 3 iPhones sitting around now and 2 iPods, they always have a device for iMessage.

[shadow minnow]

Used to use 6s plus until 12 pro max came out
Still tbh may be too much of tech enthusiast to completely avoid ewaste, even though so far my old phone is utilized atm and don’t really have two of any tech thing.

[wheat plume]

I just wanna see how incredibly smooth iOS will be on 120Hz
Should go into a phone shop and try it sometime

oh wait nvm

They dont have demo units cause covid

[ashen spindle]

" too much of tech enthusiast to completely avoid ewaste," is not a thing

sorry but thats just a dumb sentence

[vagrant elk]

I just had to mention the e-waste thing because I've met people that get a new phone every 6 months. They exist and they throw out their phones rather than keeping them, giving them away or selling them.

[wheat plume]

6 MONTHS?!!!

WTF

WHY

[vagrant elk]

I'm a tech enthusiast and the only two things I have to replace in the near future is my router and network switch since they don't work on 230V.

[wheat plume]

Tbh, that sounds like effort
Its a pain to reinstall and resetup shit on the phone

Especially auth apps and accounts

[vagrant elk]

They were those people that somehow get a brand new phone and then the same or next day have a smashed screen, bent phone, and you can clearly tell they abuse their devices.

[shadow minnow]

True. Makes no sense idk why I wrote it. Wanted to basically say that I tend to like new devices even though I won’t be able to upgrade for long but realized my old devices always go to someone else and everyone can basically give or sell their old device so yeah, that really was a dumb thing from me to say.

[vagrant elk]

My landlord is a perfect example of an Apple phone abuser. She gets Apple Care every time she gets a new phone and the moment new phones are in stores she intentionally breaks her old phone to the point of being potentially impossible to repair and demanding a brand new device.

[wheat plume]

o.o

ew

[vagrant elk]

Instead of doing that she could sell her old phone and get the new one for $500+ less but whatever.

[shadow minnow]

Tbh I wish I would not have to worry about my phone. The surface is so nice but to scared to ever have it caseless. Wish it just would not break
My 6s plus has managed to survive so many drops that I don’t get it tbh, but since then became lot more careful

[wheat plume]

YEP

[vagrant elk]

My PinePhone came with a really cheap plastic screen protector, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Very tempted to replace it with a tempered glass screen protector since those are a thing now for this phone. Just makes me feel safer.

[shadow minnow]

Actually with iPhone resell and trade in values she would maybe only have to pay like 200$ more for a new phone if she got lucky, even though probably a bit more

[shadow minnow]

My screen protector just became lose and don’t have any atm but was a mistake. Need to get new one soon.

Also my silicone case is falling apart after not even one year

I guess I will get it replaced, especially since apart from warranty MagSafe does not communicate with phone on the case for some reason

[vagrant elk]

The way my landlord does things currently she basically drops her phone, throws it at sidewalks as hard as she can and hits them with hammers until it doesn't turn on anymore. Then she demands a new phone because to her Apple Care is amazing or something. Absolutely terrible for e-waste.

[wheat plume]

Can I punch her?

plz...

Until she no longer works

[vagrant elk]

Only if I can join you.

[wheat plume]

Yes! Perfect

[ashen spindle]

maybe first beat up apple for making them so fragile and unrepairable in the first place since that would not work if they could be fixed easier

[shadow minnow]

My lightning cables and earphones could become waste unfortunaty though. Cabled earbuds used to hate me, and also was not the worst at breaking lightning cables. Which MagSafe has solved. No more cable coming from down side of the phone is just great

[wheat plume]

I currently have a pair of wired earphones ordered from Amazon that arent dispatched yet

(been 4 working days since ordering them ;-;)

[shadow minnow]

Uh it’s bad but not as bad. They are not as fragile anymore, they are similar as other flagships and use new stuff to make them more durable, also stainless steel corners. And they have some terrible fix things like the face if stuff but still usually more easily repairable than certain other companies

[vagrant elk]

I'm kind of excited for the PinePhone to get Qi charging but I am wondering what specification it will be. Currently they use 15 watt USB-C so if it's anything less I'll be avoiding it. If it's anything more I definitely want to use it since it will speed up charging quite a bit.

[ashen spindle]

dear god do not start to pretend like apple is not doing it's best to make any sort of repair impossible

[vagrant elk]

^

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s7NmMl_-yg

[vagrant elk]

Apple is the worst.

[ashen spindle]

cant even replace it with literally an identical phone's parts

[shadow minnow]

I am saying it’s getting pretty bad with repairability and should be definitely better

[vagrant elk]

Same with Samsung, Huawei, and virtually every other phone manufacturer these days.

[ashen spindle]

you said "it’s bad but not as bad." when they added features to make it worse than the 12...

[vagrant elk]

Samsung doesn't even let you unlock the bootloader without disabling what was it? Your camera or something stupid?

[wheat plume]

camera

yep

[shadow minnow]

Still, not sure but heard it’s still better than s21s. But still wish it was better than it is

[wheat plume]

meanwhile, Xiaomi don't care if you unlock the bootloader or install custom ROM
As long as your problem is not caused by doing that while under warranty

[ashen spindle]

" still usually more easily repairable than certain other companies" what other companies adds software to block replacement screens form another iphone

[vagrant elk]

People make fun of my PinePhone but listen, if I can have a device in this day and age that happily lets me do anything I want without that stuff and has schematics available and has easily replaceable parts and a manual on how to do so I will take it any day regardless of the performance.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, that’s quite dumb. Makes me wonder if apple will ever do that for jailbrakes

[wheat plume]

PinePhone would be great if it wasnt as powerful as a phone from 2010

[vagrant elk]

My main reasons for enjoying it is simply the openness since what I do doesn't need high performance.

[wheat plume]

Fair

[vagrant elk]

I understand the concerns with its performance though, I agree, it would be nice with a stronger processor.

[shadow minnow]

As I have said, not sure why but s21s seem to be getting lower repairability scored. Didn’t check it into details so may be biased site or inaccurate info, or idk what’s the cause tbh, so not saying it’s for sure the case

[vagrant elk]

Don't forget that it isn't just phone companies either, car companies, farming equipment companies and many other industries love making your device impossible to repair.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but this is not about that, this is trying to show the apple fanboy that apple is indeed not better than others in this regard 😛

[vagrant elk]

Only mentioning it because so many people think it's just an Apple issue or just a phone industry issue. You guys might know better but others don't.

[shadow minnow]

True. Also that’s why I mentioned the s21 thing. Because tbh mostly only ever heard of iPhones bad repairability being and and never really knew it’s worse with other flagships phones.
Now I am not by any means saying that makes the bad repairability justifiable.

[vagrant elk]

While other phone companies are bad, it's Apple that are often leading the charge in making reparability worse with others following when they see they can get away with it.

That isn't to say it always Apple, just that it's often Apple. Other companies like Samsung seem to be making their own waves with anti-repair changes lately.

[shadow minnow]

Apple really can sometimes lead bad changes for most consumers. Like 3.5mm jack and charger in the box.
Also ironic how some companies released ads against it but followed

[shadow minnow]

Yeah tbh, repairability is one thing that’s many times imo unreasonably hard. Like, I get why phones may not have swappable batteries, but making some repairability stuff simpler would not need more space and hurt anything in most cases.

[vagrant elk]

Well, the funny thing is that people have it engraved in their mind that a removeable back and battery make the phone bulky or prone to water damage when that is far from the case. Companies just do it to screw customers over. There's no excuse other than saying "that's so 2010" which is just an out-of-touch take.

[shadow minnow]

Saw some people saying that people should bear consequences of not being careful enough and just buy a new phone if they brake it or apple care, and that repairability does not matter.
Now that’s what I call a fanboy

[shadow minnow]

Especially with wireless charging, it may be possible but can’t imagine a simple way it could be done

[vagrant elk]

Why I prefer the PinePhone over other devices:

REPAIRABILITY (schematics and parts are everywhere, not just from Pine64)
I only call/text with Signal and Session because apparently I'm old or something and people use apps and want extreme performance

[vagrant elk]

A lot of it is just having seals in the device itself. Samsung does this with their Flip and Fold series. Everything from the speaker to the SIM card slot has rubber O-rings to stop water from getting in and they are sealed extremely well. It can be done, most definitely, just that companies don't care.

[shadow minnow]

I kinda need iMessages and FaceTime.
But still prefer iOS so not really an issue for me.

[shadow minnow]

I mean, where would you take out the battery from when you have wireless charging. Unless you would want to completely take off phone side but even then buttons and stuff

[ashen spindle]

I feel like you are adding complex sounding issues that aren't issues really

[vagrant elk]

What? The PinePhone accomplishes wireless charging and a removeable battery with no issues at all. There are pogo pins on the top of the phone which allow other features like wireless charging, adding bigger batteries, and so on with cases that have connectors. That's it. That's how wireless charging is implemented.

By top of the phone I mean top half on the inside of the phone.

[ashen spindle]

if a camera can use a directly removeable battery and make it waterproof a close case like a phone wont need anything special to make it waterproof and replaceable with some extra steps

[vagrant elk]

With some O-rings and other similar measures it's quite easy. Basically what Quintosh said.

[ashen spindle]

and that's just taking what other things on the market already do, now imagine what apple's engineers could come up with if they looked at that instead of ways to obstruct things on purpose

[vagrant elk]

Or any company for that matter.

When a company is worth a trillion dollars there really is no excuse no matter how big of a fanboy someone is. They can do it, they just choose not to.

[vagrant elk]

Is that uhh, what's his name?

[wheat plume]

Dave2D

[vagrant elk]

The guy that loves Apple products.

Yeah, Dave!

I thought his name was Mike for a moment.

[wheat plume]

LOL

An Asian guy named Mike

[vagrant elk]

I don't judge even if something confuses me.

[wheat plume]

same

I love how the video is like 30% of the screen space....

GG Youtube

[vagrant elk]

Mac theme?

[wheat plume]

White-Sur

[vagrant elk]

If so it's a pretty good one. Actually had me convinced for a second that it was a Mac.

[wheat plume]

I have to use the non-transparent version of the theme

cause it gets fucked up by nvidia drivers for some reason

The theme dev is aware of this and doesnt know how to fix it yet

[vagrant elk]

I don't blame them, NVIDIA is a mess on Linux.

[wheat plume]

^^

[vagrant elk]

It's a nice theme though! I like the pink accent.

[wheat plume]

They made a Firefox theme too, you can have it look like Safari before and after macOS Monteray

[vagrant elk]

They did a good job of it then.

That's pretty good.

[wheat plume]

very!

https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme

[vagrant elk]

Of course it's an anime profile. Everything is these days.

Not hating, just surprised that anime profile pictures are everywhere.

[wheat plume]

you install it using install.sh and you can pass it many arguments to customise the theme to your liking
Which is how I have round corners and purple acent color

[vagrant elk]

Attention to detail in an install script? That's uncommon but welcome!

[wheat plume]

yeah! and it gives proper feedback as it runs

[vagrant elk]

The PinePhone install script to encrypt the drive only gives me the option to pick if I want ext4 or FAT32. I chose ext4 for obvious reasons.

[wheat plume]

OR, you can run the script with dialog boxes instead so you have a gui to choose what customisation you wanna apply

[vagrant elk]

If it has lots of flags and options I'd definitely use the GUI.

Depends on how it's implemented though, sometimes TUIs can look good and provide all necessary information. It's rare but I've seen it done.

[wheat plume]

Ive never used the GUI actually xd

you still got to use the script to make it use dialogs :P

I do like that this is an option

[vagrant elk]

That's an awesome option to have too since everyone will want something different.

[wheat plume]

And if you run the install script more than once to try different options, you can tell it what to call the theme in the Tweak Tool so you can know which is which

so like WhiteSur-Purple or WhiteSur-Pink-Round etc :D

TBF, this theme creator does this with all their theme, not just this one

[vagrant elk]

Extremely useful option I never make use of properly. I always end up naming things "idk 1", "what is this", "how does this look" and "I hate life" just hoping that I remember all of them and what they do.

[wheat plume]

Ive been switching between WhiteSur and Fluent quite a bit

Made by the same person

[vagrant elk]

I did similar things with my code when I used to code all the time, it wasn't very useful for other people. Useless comments like "I can't figure this out because I'm lazy, suck at coding, my brain hurts, haven't slept in a day and have already gone through a full pot of coffee, fix it later you ..." you get the point.

Theme creators have always been interesting for me. There have been some that make a theme and just want it to look nice while others have taken a scientific approach which takes years to "perfect" despite the fact that the changes are not noticeable to the end user.

[wheat plume]

not to mention, this creator goes out of their way to make an icon pack + wallpaper set + firefox theme + plasma desktop version for ALL THEIR THEMES

Making an icon pack seems like a massive pain in the ass, cause there is thousands of apps out there

Ive seen icon packs go up to like 70MB in size

[vagrant elk]

I wish I could remember what theme it was. I think it was GTK candy or something. I had it for every single program and absolutely loved it. The icon pack, browser, colours. It was just lovely.

[wheat plume]

oo wow

[vagrant elk]

It is not GTK Candy. I can't remember the name.

[wheat plume]

Candy is currently an icon pack

[vagrant elk]

I just remember that the icons were coloured and were outline-based rather than full on icons.

[wheat plume]

Customised and ported to newer version by ArcoLinux :D

[vagrant elk]

Firefox in particular was beautiful.

I would check but it isn't available for Gnome, only for KDE.

Sweet KDE!

This theme.

https://store.kde.org/s/KDE/p/1294174/

[vagrant elk]

I don't know why, I just loved Sweet KDE. I thought it was wonderful.

[wheat plume]

LOL

[vagrant elk]

I had to manually patch Firefox with this script to make it look proper with the theme. Unfortunately it's no longer maintained.

https://github.com/EliverLara/firefox-sweet-theme

The top bar didn't look right otherwise.

[wheat plume]

This makes Firefox look like Epiphany browser xd

[vagrant elk]

It is scuffed with that theme, I know.

[vagrant elk]

I love Nord, just wish it was a tad bit more black and less blue.

[wheat plume]

(There is Nord Darker, iirc)

its not official but it exists

[vagrant elk]

Seems like Nord themselves have multiple palettes which I actually didn't know and some of them look like colour palettes I would use.

[wheat plume]

I got a fucking spam email written in Irish

Wtf :')

I wanna open it to see all of it but I won't cause it's in the spam folder

[vagrant elk]

I actually find it weird that just by switching from Outlook to ProtonMail I went from getting multiple spam emails a day to getting literally nothing in 6+ months. I think it's just because it's an uncommon domain but maybe they just catch spam and outright block it. No idea.

[wheat plume]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stenokeyboards/the-uni

Stenography

First time I heard of that

[vagrant elk]

At least it's cheap. I wonder if it would come with a case.

[wheat plume]

It seems to be just bare pcb with a thin cover on each side

[vagrant elk]

Reminds me of that weird keyboard we discussed a while back.

You know, the one that sounded way better than it should've.

[wheat plume]

Ooohhhh yes

:')

[iron wave]

I just spent like 2 hours trying to optimize code because a library that collects real time data was only giving me like 20% of the generated data.

The basic example has the problem and the vendor supplied program that you can use to capture the same data doesn't have the problem.

How fun!

[shadow minnow]

Tbh that’s less of a difference than I expected

[vapid zodiac]

thats probably manufacturing cost for one off

if made in the millions its probably sub 100 for the manufacturing

[reef tundra]

R&D or marketing included?

[vapid zodiac]

570 may be the all included cost i expect

[shadow minnow]

Nope

[shadow minnow]

Definitely not. Display itself will be over half of that for no matter how many units

[vapid zodiac]

ofc you have to pay wages and bonuses

no

[shadow minnow]

Yeah and counting that, also rgd and stuff kinda less than I expected. Apparently similar for 21 ultra that costs like 540$ to make. And less of a difference than 3 years ago.

[shadow minnow]

Well idk, 570$ seems to high, but there is no way at all It could be 100$

[vapid zodiac]

part cost is very small when talking massive quantities

largest cost will probably be the manufacturing, im referring to less than 100 in materials

[shadow minnow]

Do you count manufactured OLED panel and soc as materials, since apple does not make it themselves or not?

[vapid zodiac]

considering their subcontracted to make them, pretty much

theyre never gonna give exact price breakdown

[shadow minnow]

True

[vapid zodiac]

but theyre always pushing for more profits to make shareholders happy

[shadow minnow]

But no matter how many units they want I doubt they would get OLED panel and 5nm soc alone for 100$. Like, if high quantity prices were that better, why would not Samsung and TSMC only sell to smaller companies. Also apple chips kinda being prioritized by TSMC…

[vapid zodiac]

sand is cheap ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow minnow]

Sand yes, if we count it as sand than it may be under 100

[halcyon moss]

heh these are kinda cool actually

[reef tundra]

Looked at their quaterly report Q3 2021.

[chrome estuary]

Well for production. I doubt Apple pays that much to their overseas sweatshops.

I mean for labor and wages

[shadow minnow]

Yeah but they still need tooling. Also transport taxes and stuff like that. And rgd. And advertising.

[chrome estuary]

Yeah fair

[halcyon moss]

and support and warranty

[chrome estuary]

Yeah but that doesn't count towards manufactory costs

That's a whole different department

[shadow minnow]

True. But who knows, support is like employees, and if apple is lucky replacements may get pay for by apple care since sometimes people buy it and don’t break anything

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, not the manufacturing cost, just in what it actually costs. Still the profit is probably big enough. Hope the price won’t go up next gen to increase that

[chrome estuary]

You mean you hope it won't go up that much

It's the next gen friend! They always go up

[iron wave]

They could sell the phones at cost with how much they make everywhere else.

That's nothing special.

That's been a thing for years.

[shadow minnow]

Uh, last gen 64gb was removed and other models price decreased by 50$ in result, and this gen it didn’t change. So quite likely it will increase unfortunately

[iron wave]

You just have a range and duplicate frames to go lower.

[shadow minnow]

10-120hz is afaik without duplication

Not entirely sure if it’s LTPO though

[chrome estuary]

Wow apple decreasing cost of a product? I didn't see the damn sky falling so I guess the ,7th seal hasn't broken yet

[iron wave]

So they hold images longer, not a huge deal when they are ordering such specific panels.

[shadow minnow]

They did. Question is how long is it gonna take them to change their mind

[iron wave]

How long until they fix iOS and their hardware is the important thing.

[shadow minnow]

Not that easy with OLED, unless it’s LTPO, which may be more expensive, not sure

[shadow minnow]

Don’t find iOS bad. Well, tbf with iOS 15 they added so many bugs they definitely have something to fix

[iron wave]

VFR was impressive when GSYNC was new.

[shadow minnow]

It’s different for OLEDS than LCD

[chrome estuary]

I would make a joke saying "What RnD? They only moved a camera over!" But I know that's just the design of the phone

[iron wave]

You swap screens and the software decides you can't use parts of your phone, iOS is broken.

OLED has had VFR before this too.

[chrome estuary]

Hell I think you swap any part on the device and iOS decides you deserve death

[iron wave]

Pretty much.

[shadow minnow]

Don’t think apple is planning to change that “feature”

[chrome estuary]

Not just screen. I'm pretty sure the charging port and other things now

[shadow minnow]

Don’t think it’s the case with charging port

[iron wave]

They the screws all being different sizes and critical traces going under them is another fun trick.

[shadow minnow]

Afaik still only screen but now it also disables Face ID

But they luckily still don’t use that much glue

[iron wave]

Screen, cameras, buttons and some cables all have their own IDs apparently.

It's a shame Android vendors are doing this too.

More or less I suppose.

[chrome estuary]

I'm waiting for when you just get a big ol' "Your phone has a nonstandard part! We're locking down your phone for your safety! Bring your device into your nearest Approved Apple Technician™ for your device to be repaired and unlocked!"

[iron wave]

Did you hear about Samsung's new trick?

No.

[chrome estuary]

Killing the cameras if you unlock the bootloader

[iron wave]

There are like 30 different types of screw in the phone with different lengths.

[chrome estuary]

What shitty practice. Just permanently lock the fucking bootloader at that rate

[iron wave]

You put a slightly too long one in a short hole and you brick the phone.

Those aren't designed to be unserviceable.

[chrome estuary]

it feels like some are

[reef tundra]

You see, the trick with repair is to not bother and get the new device instead Keeo buying

[iron wave]

We are talking like a couple screw threads in different lengths.

Hopefully coming legislation fixes this and the lighting port.

[chrome estuary]

You mean the new upcoming iPhone US and iPhone EU versions?

[iron wave]

Don't they already do that?

[chrome estuary]

Probably but you knew exactly why I made that comment

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, Samsung is apparently getting lower repair scores, which I have no idea what do they have to do for tbh if apple still gets 5/10

[iron wave]

Hopefully side loading will also be a thing soon because of Epic.

[shadow minnow]

Epic lost

So doubt that

They are probably gonna try to go into court again

But so far no

[iron wave]

They didn't win or lose last I heard, it was a middle ground they are both appealing.

[reef tundra]

ISO metric screws 😉

[iron wave]

It's hilarious that they where ordered to pay the 30% though.

For breach of contract.

[shadow minnow]

Only thing they achieved was apple having to allow other payment processors or links to websites but not sure if they still aren’t entitled to their cut on that

[iron wave]

They aren't.

Epic needs to pay up because of the contract breach though.

[chrome estuary]

Didn't they both lose?

Technically

[iron wave]

It's so weird that Android is pretty much more secure than iOS at this point even though you can sideload anything you want.

[shadow minnow]

Tbh find it kinda funny, especially the way epic sometimes pretended to be surprised apple won’t return them developer account as if they have done nothing wrong

[iron wave]

Yeah that's just stupid.

[shadow minnow]

Not really, especially with what new updates are bringing. What way?

[halcyon moss]

epic didnt get everything they waned, and they have to pay the contractual fees which are owed. they can still be banned by apple.. but apple has to allow outside payment processors

its just that.. epic cant use that 😄

[iron wave]

Apps on iOS can read a lot of personal information stored on the device, no questions asked by iOS.

[shadow minnow]

Idk about this stuff tbh. Apart from not to track stuff also the new iCloud features with hide my mail, private relay… are imo pretty cool

[iron wave]

Let me go find the articles.

[shadow minnow]

But iOS 15 bugs are not that cool

Like 12 major bugs

At least

[chrome estuary]

Is iOS 15 even out in full yet or is it a beta?

[shadow minnow]

It’s full out

But behaves like beta

Actually in some ways worse than beta I was on

Before

[chrome estuary]

What is this? Bethesda?

[iron wave]

https://habr.com/en/post/579714/
https://habr.com/en/post/580272/

[shadow minnow]

Yes, but apparently there are bug fixes in next update

[iron wave]

I haven't heard of any major Android issues like these in a while.

[shadow minnow]

Still should not have released iOS 15

[iron wave]

I wonder when the next bootrom bug will be published, those are always fun.

[shadow minnow]

I wonder when next bug fixes will be published, those would be fun for me

[iron wave]

Apple has known about these issues for months, the app store ones for years.

[iron wave]

They don't care.

[reef patrol]

Doesn't take a lot to be better than Apple apparently

[iron wave]

Imagine all the free fixes they'd get if they opened sourced the OS like Android gets.

:^)

[chrome estuary]

"But they wouldn't be as secure!"

[iron wave]

Do you still need an entire OS update to fix the browser?

[chrome estuary]

"Anyone could see the private code and change it maliciously!"

[iron wave]

But trade secrets we have!

I would like to see all of Alphabet's junk open sourced, but then they will lose out on some data they can sell.

[shadow minnow]

Tbh some of my opinions are kinda opposite. I get why it would be worse for most people but want apple to go portless for more waterproof and battery. Also short distance wireless stuff could definitely have better transfer speeds than lightning

[iron wave]

There are so many losses in wireless charging though.

Plus type-c has like 20Gb/s of total bandwidth.

:V

[reef patrol]

For now, yes.

Mass adoption forces innovation.

[shadow minnow]

True but tbh I only use MagSafe and apart from battery life it’s nice

[iron wave]

Imagine using PCI-e lanes over USB to sync your phone.

[shadow minnow]

Depends, some types 10, and considering wifi 6e speeds I think that could be matched with very short distance MagSafe in built wireless stuff

[chrome estuary]

Dad broke his fucking charging port somehow so I have to buy him a wireless charger

[iron wave]

That's like saying some Wi-Fi caps out at 54Mb/s.

Plus you generally won't lose performance if there's more radio noise one day compared to the next.

Even Nintendo; king of weird ports uses USB now. It's Apple's turn.

Did you guys hear about Magisk?

[chrome estuary]

What's up with them

[iron wave]

The owner works for Alphabet now and is going to strip most of the functionality out of the project.

Speaking of awful code, imagine how many 0 days would come from an open source NT kernel.

[chrome estuary]

I fucking hate how much AT&T sucks and how much it's relied on where I live.

I pay them all this fucking money and I work in town at one of the largest employers in town but yet I am lucky to get a single fucking bar half the time

[reef patrol]

Muh freemarket
if YOU want TO stop MONOPOLY JUST MAKE YOUR own IsP

[cedar stag]

Don't

Small ISPs are the root of all evil

[chrome estuary]

I'm pretty sure the company I work for has a 4G signal booster in the basement

[iron wave]

AT&T is better than all the other ISPs in the area. I have a choice of 2 here. :V

[chrome estuary]

Cause I get a full 4G signal in the basement but like... I might be lucky enough to get a real 5G signal upstairs. I usually get this fake as fuck 5G "Evolution" shit

[iron wave]

Every time my phone says 5G it's a lie.

[chrome estuary]

Like fuck those guys. They've got a Cafeteria down there and a signal booster and everything. They're as fucking pampered as nightshift is

[chrome estuary]

I own an LG Wing and a Fold 2.

[cursive summit]

LG Wing?

[wheat plume]

I should have 5G
Got vaccinated
still no 5G

[chrome estuary]

I live in a college town

[cursive summit]

That phone is sick

[chrome estuary]

I should get better fucking service than this!

[cursive summit]

I kinda want LG Velvet with the dual screen accessory

[chrome estuary]

Ngl I do too

[cedar stag]

Speaking of, this is a 5G microcell (this one is a 2.5Gbit model made by Intercell-Erricson) I had to cover the label for privacy reasons
Only 3 cables (power, network and a fiber link to the antenna ASSY. A lot of the processing is done at the antenna part, this is just a management and control unit)

[iron wave]

I have a Pixel 4XL and I'm disappointed in how well it's standing up.

The back glue failed within a year.

The buttons are starting to get fiddly too.

[wheat plume]

yeah cause the 4 line was shit, except the 4A

[cedar stag]

but yes, I own a microcell

[iron wave]

The Nexus 7 and 6P broke from normal use too.

I'm done with Alphabet hardware after this.

This phone is nearly 3 and it's having weird hardware issues. No excuses.

[wheat plume]

I wanna get a 6A, depending on it's spec and price

[iron wave]

At least the software is decent minus the usual Alphabet spying.

What are you talking about?

[wheat plume]

idek

[iron wave]

An OtterBox with a tumor?

Seems pretty niche to me. 🤷‍♀️

You know what I'm currently eyeing for my next phone once this thing really breaks?

[wheat plume]

Go on

[iron wave]

I feel like a zipper pocket or a bag would be better.

The ROG phone.

[wheat plume]

ew

[iron wave]

Really cool accessories and massive amounts of RAM.

[crimson wigeon]

GAMING PHONE

[halcyon moss]

whats massive these days?

[iron wave]

12GB

[halcyon moss]

ah my phone has that too!

[iron wave]

I think Apple has a tablet with 16.

I've seen phones fly off of those mounts.

I wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw it.

[halcyon moss]

well.. there is a problen with optical stabilisation breaking when used on motorbikes

[iron wave]

Oh that sounds funny.

[halcyon moss]

used as in... mounted to a motorbike

[iron wave]

I do want to get a very specialized phone one of these days as well.

This is another "web design is my passion" website I see.

Would be cool to have a phone with real optics.

[halcyon moss]

i do like phones

[iron wave]

Imagine for a second a phone camera that didn't need 4 seconds of processing to take pictures.

Just ignore crap.

Or turn airplane mode on.

Do they leave voicemail?

That's on them.

You can't be expected to be available 24/7, that's stupid.

Are pagers still a thing?

[wheat plume]

dafuq is a pager?

[iron wave]

https://c.tenor.com/Jk23kizt56wAAAAM/law-and-order-true-crime-beeper.gif

Nice embed.

Feature phones?

Like 6" smart phones that you can crank up the font size on?

[wheat plume]

make them get a cellular enabled tablet then :')

Big ass screen

[iron wave]

Oh yeah that was an annoying gimmick.

Those "walkie talkie"phones.

[wheat plume]

my neighbour has a smartphone but she pumped up the font size so large that the app names on the homescreen take up 2 rows

[iron wave]

Once I was in a restaurant where two people at the same table used them to talk to each other instead of looking at each other like normal people.

[wheat plume]

🤢

well, maybe one of them was mute, so they cant talk?

Wait no, then the other person could talk anyway

Maybe deaf

[iron wave]

They they couldn't listen.

[wheat plume]

Which is why both used phone

[iron wave]

And every time they said anything the other phone beeped because walkie talkie phone gimmick.

[wheat plume]

eh?

[iron wave]

You know walkie talkies?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[iron wave]

Imagine those but a cell phone.

[wheat plume]

no thanks

[iron wave]

That was a thing.

Making me feel old. :V

[reef tundra]

And who actually use the actual things just want to turn them off

[wheat plume]

I found Erik Dubois' LinkedIn

:P

The main dev / creator of ArcoLinux

[reef tundra]

linkedin

[pale sigil]

So, who's installing windows 11

[reef patrol]

Don't see the point.

Aside from the new control panel merges, I see it as a complete loss.

[crimson wigeon]

Whatever it's an operating system I only use for certain software compatibility, don't really care that much how it looks

So I'm letting Windows Update decide when I'm getting it

[iron wave]

I can't.

[pale sigil]

The only thing that I wanted from Windows 11 was android app support

But that was delayed

[iron wave]

The only good thing about the update got delayed, cool beans.

[pale sigil]

Pretty much

[iron wave]

I think it's funny that instead of making the kernel more secure they are just forcing secure boot and TPM2.

[young pecan]

I'm currently on Win11 for the DirectStorage when that happens.

Yes I know it's on Win10, but why stay in the past?

[crimson wigeon]

It's right there in the name though, "Secure boot"

[iron wave]

All it does is verify a signature.

[crimson wigeon]

It's secuuuuure! Or so the marketing says

[young pecan]

I mean...

Tbh just about all security is an utter joke.

[iron wave]

There are TPM2 modules with critical vulnerabilities.

[ashen spindle]

it's not the only good thing, it's also a needed for alder lake but that is not out till end of month or so

[iron wave]

That makes no sense.

AMD64 should be AMD64.

[ashen spindle]

? it's about the thread scheduler for the small/big cores

[vapid zodiac]

just unplug the ethernet cable and WiFi card, can't have security breach then

[iron wave]

Oh that stuff.

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah so it'll work without, performance might just be mud butt due to poor scheduling

[iron wave]

Affinity.

[young pecan]

BuT ThEn yOuRE VuLNErAbLE tO USb AtTAcKS.

[iron wave]

I'm sure someone will make a driver.

Fun fact: You can use a laser pointer to use some of those home assistant things.

I wonder how much of the kernel could be deleted without most people noticing.

[vapid zodiac]

if you fall victim to that, you deserve whatever you get

[pale sigil]

Relic

[reef patrol]

Yep.

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

everything is chrome in the future

[pale sigil]

It was nice to have for years

[old marlin]

reminds me

[pale sigil]

Pretty much replaced it with a firestick 4k

XD

Stadia is giving away ultra ad controller again

[old marlin]

spotify on my phone now annoys me that there is a chrome device in my network

[pale sigil]

Friend is gonna give me them I think

[old marlin]

and since none of my roommates have one it has to be speakers in the pub or something

[crimson wigeon]

Well why don't you play something fun on it then

[old marlin]

dunno if it is a tv or a speaker

[reef tundra]

Security is gg when they got physical access to the hardware

[halcyon moss]

are they?

im kinda intested in getting a chromecast because my smart tv is getting real slow with the latest updates

[crimson wigeon]

Oh cool oh wait I live in the wrong country so Google does not give any free gifts

[pale sigil]

Ye if you've spent x amount or some shit

[halcyon moss]

ah

hmm about €80 too much :p

[pale sigil]

any advice on cable storage ]

xD

[halcyon moss]

chuck it in a box

[crimson wigeon]

Box it in a chuck

[reef tundra]

Chuck chucks it in a box

[pale sigil]

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skadis-pegboard-white-10321618/

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skadis-container-with-lid-white-80335909/

wtf, IKEA charge for colletion

[reef patrol]

Odd. They don't here

[pale sigil]

ye it is odd x

D

[umbral knot]

I don't like ikea

my ikea chair bent

I thought it was because I'm obese until I realized that I'm quite underweight

then my mom bought me a shitty dxracer knockoff that is one of the most uncomfortable chairs I've ever sat in

[young pecan]

Marketplace Herman Miller chairs are where it's at. 👌

[wheat plume]

🤔

Installed CouchDB to my games drive for some unknown reason

[vagrant elk]

One day I will sit down in and experience an Herman Miller. They are supposed to be extremely comfortable yet ergonomic at the same time.

[young pecan]

Can confirm. I tried an Aeron once and that's what I'm getting now.

No fucks given about the price. Worth it!!

[pale sigil]

Well

Sadly not the case for everyone xD

It's whet I'm gonna try and get next year

[vagrant elk]

By the way Aeon, I had nothing to do yesterday and learned about nuclear just because you seem to love it so much. Apparently nuclear is deemed safer than fossil fuels, at least in the metric of kilowatt hours generated to deaths. Coal, oil, natural gas and others are far worse. Just not sure what to say on the waste because that stuff has to be stored safely for thousands of years.

[pale sigil]

That's the downside really

Waste

There needs to be ways to reprocess

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/fuel-recycling/processing-of-used-nuclear-fuel.aspx

[reef tundra]

Just dig a big hole and dump it real deep. Wont even be able to measure it making the surface more active, background radiation making it hard.

Wont have to worry about it leaking, when beyond the water table. Only way it can go bad, is vulcanic activity or future humans doing some cringe

Would be easier to use any of the warheads we have pointed at eachother

[young pecan]

Oh hell yes.

Nuclear is extremely safe compared to Fossil.

And tbh storing waste is pretty braindead since you can take the original fuel from the ground.

And then you bury the used fuel.

Back in the ground...

[reef tundra]

Brown coal because you really hate humanity

[vagrant elk]

Fair enough, just thought I'd refrain from commenting on that part since I don't know much about that end of things.

[shadow minnow]

Unless you really screw something up, then it may cause a bigger disaster

[young pecan]

End of the line is that even if you fuck up it's nowhere near as bad as fossil.

Nothing you can possibly do is going to be worse than what fossil ends in.

Even if you Chernobyl 300 cities it's not as bad.

[reef tundra]

Really hard to make it go active enough to meltdown to a nuclear mushroom.

[vagrant elk]

Even accounting for all disasters that nuclear energy have caused it's still safer than fossil fuels in terms of the energy produced to deaths ratio which is a pretty decent metric.

[shadow minnow]

Uh, if you fuck up too bad, don’t think worse fuck up with fossil can match that.
Talking about short term, it’s for sure different with long term, where fossil really sucks

[young pecan]

Exactly.

[young pecan]

My guy, fucking up with fossil can literally kill all life on the planet.

How're you gonna accomplish this with nuclear?

[shadow minnow]

How, short term? (Only talking short term)

[young pecan]

Short term we raise global temps by 3 degrees and cause massive global flooding, killing tens of thousands of people per continent at a bare minimum and uncountable animal life.

With fossil.

[reef tundra]

Like next century at our rate

[young pecan]

With nuclear maybe we get a few Chernobyl's here and there.

[shadow minnow]

I mean, that’s long term. Short term meant like singular disaster happening short period of time. But sure, long term fossil is worse

Short term meant sth like Chernobyl

[young pecan]

Even short term fossil is worse than something like Chernobyl. shrugs

[reef tundra]

It was only a heat gas explosion and only the specific design which only gets used for polonium production nowardays

[young pecan]

Let's say short term is within 10 years, for argument.

@vagrant elk What're the annual death counts of fossil again?

[vagrant elk]

I just woke up an hour ago, not able to properly think or remember things yet. Sorry.

[young pecan]

Hmm.

[vagrant elk]

Those kind of metrics are generally easy to come by though.

[latent mural]

deaths due to fossil pale in comparison to the fact that the vast majority of the people living breathe dirty air

don't have to die for it to be awful

[reef tundra]

Keep in mind the high carbondioxide is causing cognitive decline

[shadow minnow]

Short term mean singular one event disaster. But yeah short term as 10 years fossil is probably worse.

[young pecan]

Ok, fine. Sec.

[shadow minnow]

Now I am not defending fossil at all just curious if there is anything on that scale that can happen short term

[reef tundra]

Atleast modern guidelines would not deny it happening

[young pecan]

Roughly we get 8 million deaths a year from carbon emission.

Idk if that counts as immediate, but it's more than any nuclear has ever done.

[reef tundra]

Keep in mind coal is also radioactive and usually to just be released in the air. Radioactive decay is conciderabily worse in the body than being around it

[young pecan]

Aye. Alpha radiation especially.

Eat anything emitting alpha and prepare for death.

[reef tundra]

Depends on the dose and how well your body can handle the amount of necrosis in the time

The weighting of alpha paricles to be 20x the gamma decay. ICRP

[vagrant elk]

Pop!_OS used to give you a letter and colour based on your account name. Apparently they changed it because my profile picture is now a penguin.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/lDmY3xhZIX0
@vagrant elk

New release!

[crimson wigeon]

Would you say it's posh?

[wheat plume]

UI becomes unresponsive after a while

[vagrant elk]

I'm just wanting them to release a fix for suspend. Right now due to suspend not working properly and waking up the device every time WiFi disconnects the battery dies extremely quickly.

[pale sigil]

Blows me away how easy 4k is now

[vagrant elk]

Maybe the "UI becomes unresponsive after a while" refers to the freezing bug I've run into a few times.

[wheat plume]

oo, perhaps

[vagrant elk]

Does anyone have any recommended websites or books on learning how to make a website?

[pale sigil]

udemy

[vagrant elk]

Coursera seems to have a large selection as well.

[pale sigil]

my friend is saying he cant tell the difference between 60hz and 165hz

seems impossible lmao

[crimson wigeon]

How about 30/60?

[iron wave]

I can tell 30/60/90.

I have been able to tell with 59/60 before which isn't fun.

[pale sigil]

I think I may have fixed my issue pc wise

I removed the smart plug I had been using

Maybe power output issue?...

https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1445078208190291973?s=19

Twitter (@Twitter)

hello literally everyone

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[ashen spindle]

"no social media"

[pale sigil]

Mum is taking it well

[ashen spindle]

literally just fb down

[pale sigil]

And whatsapp and insta

[ashen spindle]

yes

fb

[crimson wigeon]

good riddance

[pale sigil]

Which is her main platforms

XD

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/GavinDYoung/status/1445077064126799879

Gavin Young (@GavinDYoung)

People making jokes about the Facebook services going down make me sick. Anyone who was using an Oculus headset at the time is currently trapped in VR, and if they die there then they die in real life.

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[pale sigil]

[reef patrol]

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-phil-crazy-paranoid-eyes-gif-13948606

the fb boomers wondering what the government is up to

[cedar zodiac]

His eyes are locked 60hz, tell him to overclock with some glasses

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1445100931947892736

Disclose.tv (@disclosetv)

JUST IN - Facebook employees reportedly can't enter buildings to evaluate the Internet outage because their door access badges weren’t working (NYT)

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

[reef tundra]

Dont think about it. just wait it out

[cursive summit]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/29803/Overlord

Oh boy anime otakus were right all along

[shadow minnow]

Internet is broken today

I guess that means yes?

[reef tundra]

Facebook has another database leak

1.5 billion

[shadow minnow]

Twitter is not loading well too

Not just Facebook stuff

[reef tundra]

youtube lifestream keeps cutting

kinda sus

[shadow minnow]

Internet sus today indeed

All your drives will be wiped soon

[ashen spindle]

mostly just FB issues and some load coming from rerouted traffic

[shadow minnow]

Solar storm

[reef tundra]

😎 Delete them instead

[shadow minnow]

Runs like my pc

And iOS 15

[reef tundra]

🦀 Facebook has been deleted 🦀 https://twitter.com/BenjaminEnfield/status/1445104389014835213

The Academy (@BenjaminEnfield)

So, someone deleted large sections of the routing....that doesn't mean Facebook is just down, from the looks of it....that means Facebook is GONE.

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

[wheat plume]

This makes me happy

No more Facebook

[shadow minnow]

Twitter will be next

Already issues with tweet loading

[ashen spindle]

it's a DNS issue and their BGP is gone, nothing special 🙄

it'll be back soon and is not related to anything else really

https://twitter.com/dok2001/status/1445056572703625218

Dane Knecht (@dok2001)

. @Facebook DNS and other services are down. It appears their BGP routes have been withdrawn from the internet. @Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 started seeing high failure in last 20mins.

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:01 PM

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-sloth-no-how-about-gif-7251428

[reef patrol]

Pls No. I couldn't bear having to teach my grandma how to use a social media app -I- don't even understand.

Whatsapp? More like...what the fuck is that app.

[ashen spindle]

tell grandma all social media is gone

healthier for her too

[reef tundra]

Send one to Moscow all ya need

[ashen spindle]

facebook stock meanwhile

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

Mark in his manion might cry one tear for the shares

[wheat plume]

Zucker looking at the servers like...

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/7O4LQII6gLc

[wheat plume]

OOP

[wheat plume]

Why is MLP the ONLY THING on the PeerTube home page?!

[crimson wigeon]

The algorithm knows what you want

[wheat plume]

I aint logged in or have an account :')

oh, its the UK domain

Explains that then

[crimson wigeon]

Blimey

[wheat plume]

Thats a right mess innit

[shadow minnow]

[cursive summit]

I'm not sure if it was officially available before

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Win11 installation media released

From what I am aware you had to go through insider builds to obtain it before, now it's just a normal installer

[crisp granite]

still, no reason to adopt because no one supports it beyond those that kinda have to for development sake

[cursive summit]

I think Win11 might be fantastic

[reef tundra]

[crisp granite]

Vexxy

you say the funniest shit sometimes

[wheat plume]

I too love when my operating system has 10 different UI designs happening at once!

and forced updates and unwanted sh it preinstalled that impact the useability of the OS

[ashen spindle]

so why not turn off the updates after the 27th complaint about them 🙄

[misty saffron]

pov you’re a linux user

[wheat plume]

I do pause them but you cant do it for very long

[crimson wigeon]

We can't have solutions to problems now can we?!

[ashen spindle]

yes you can pause them for very long it just takes more than a single click on pause lol

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/YE_b76NLXZY Are they really dying on this hill?

[wheat plume]

it lets me click that 3 times

[ashen spindle]

I genuinely am still amazed how you are watching endless hours on how to do things on linux distros but assume on windows there is no option other than clicking the one thing it directly shows you

[wheat plume]

TBF, I spend maybe an hour or two at most trying to figure things out on Linux

and not very often

[misty saffron]

sorry how much

[wheat plume]

Sometimes its things like messing with themes and whatnot

[ashen spindle]

and that is about how much I spend on windows settings in an entire year maybe lmao so a quick google/youtube search surely would show you a quick tutorial on how to change registry or w/e the first result is to pause them for longer

[misty saffron]

what do you mean, trying to figure out how to do something in x distro is WAY better

[wheat plume]

I saw Chris Titus has a tool that only allows security updates, I may install and try that

[pale sigil]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11?

its out i guess

xD

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/pupOnSecurity/status/1445133562911526917

xXx_ANT1F4_5C3N3_QU33N_xXx (@pupOnSecurity)

BREAKING: live view inside a Facebook datacenter

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 9:07 PM

[wheat plume]

This just happens when I click the link

o.o

[pale sigil]

you turn on tpm?

[wheat plume]

ye

[pale sigil]

you sure?

[wheat plume]

Secure Boot is off :P

[wheat plume]

fTPM in UEFI is enabled

[pale sigil]

check the healthc heck

https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

wut

[reef tundra]

Shoot it

[wheat plume]

It's added this new banner into the update page in the system settings

[reef tundra]

who cares

[pale sigil]

idk how im gonna get it to work with VM

lol

[wheat plume]

oh

thats why I downloaded the ISO

.-.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[wheat plume]

I also used the media creation tool to get a bootable USB with it

[pale sigil]

oh nice

virtualbox is doing tpm passthrough

[wheat plume]

DAFUQ?!

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-karma-reaper-gif-21413650

[misty saffron]

can you still like

install windows 11

and just turn off all of the features

in bios

because that’s what i’ve done to do whatever i want to my kernel

[pale sigil]

[reef tundra]

spyware work

[crisp granite]

orgasm induced moan

sell my data

f*ck yeah!

mmmmm

[wheat plume]

damn it, doge :')

plz stahp

[reef tundra]

🇨🇳 ccp would gladly agree, just might be organs and not data

[crisp granite]

no, I am here, and I am in a shitposting mood

now

accept my shitposts

[wheat plume]

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-action-bird-run-running-gif-4877919

oh fuck run run run run

[reef tundra]

ICBMs are prematurely firing

[crisp granite]

oh

I'm sorry

I just threw up in my mouth

and some dribbled down my chin onto my lap

that is truly disgusting

[pale sigil]

ina vm

stfu

lol

[crisp granite]

the OS, not the vomit

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-what-gif-11015077

[crisp granite]

I mean...

the vomit is gross

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/china-ccp-take-down-the-ccp-communist-china-tank-man-gif-20101581

Nice tank inspection

[crisp granite]

but the OS is even more so to the point of muting out the vomit nastiness

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-kol-mikaelson-the-originals-the-cw-gif-16492803

[pale sigil]

still seen as w10

hehe

[wheat plume]

PERMANENTLY ACTIVATED

wut how

[pale sigil]

yo

how do i move the task bar

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

[wheat plume]

you cant move it from the bottom

[pale sigil]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wheat plume]

but you can move the taskbar menu to the left