🔌│tech

[astral haven]

That's able to be done in parallel with current tech

[chrome estuary]

The faster you go, the more energy you drain, the more energy you need to recharge later on, etc etc

[astral haven]

I really don't get the hate train for wind

[hardy idol]

Acceleration in EVs is the hardest on the tires, but also on the battery.

[astral haven]

You are thinking waaaaaaaay too small lol

[hardy idol]

mostly because usually EVs go pretty fast, but also weigh a lot.

[astral haven]

You have 100 cars
What's better
Doubling the mpg on half of the cars or 1.5x the mpg on all of them?

[old marlin]

Cause nuclear power is so dirty?

[hardy idol]

nuclear power supreme

[astral haven]

Nuclear is a temporary solution

[old marlin]

[astral haven]

Not long term

[old marlin]

Why

[chrome estuary]

What's your true final solution? A Dyson sphere?

[old marlin]

What is the problem with gen iv reactors

[hardy idol]

doubling on half. because then you can take the more efficient cars when there are less cars needed

[old marlin]

Leftover material decays in the range of tens to hundreds of years

So really no horrible long term problems

And they are safe af

Just don't build them at earthquake and tsunami sites

[astral haven]

All the cars are gonna be used...

[hardy idol]

You didn't state that

[old marlin]

Oh and if you do follow safety protocols

[astral haven]

Humans can't make waterproof structures that last 10k years

[old marlin]

They don't have to last 10k years

[chrome estuary]

Tens to hundreds is not tens of thousands

[hardy idol]

10k years is one hell of a fuckin time period and they'll be obsolete long before that

[old marlin]

No

Gen iv reactor garbage decays before 1k years

[astral haven]

Half life of 100 is dangerous for 10+k years

[old marlin]

Not half life

[astral haven]

🤨

[hardy idol]

imagine if you could take the nuclear waste. and put it in another reactor!

(yeah thats in development in the US)

[chrome estuary]

Also if you believe our infrastructure is going to keep up for another 10k years without potentially having a fix for this... Then just look at the last 10k years

[old marlin]

I believe that at least a storage site for decaying material can be kept up for 1k years

[astral haven]

Oh you are talking about future tech
If that does come into existence then sure go for it
For now, solar, wind, and storage are what we need to focus on

[hardy idol]

Wind? really?

[old marlin]

Wind is shit

[hardy idol]

Greenpeace hates wind parks on the north sea

[astral haven]

Y'all ever talked to an actual environmental engineer?

[hardy idol]

Greenpeace fucking FOUGHT for wind parks on the north sea

[old marlin]

The problem is long term consequences

[hardy idol]

and now its no good

[old marlin]

Fuck Greenpeace

[hardy idol]

yea

[old marlin]

The problem is that you have giant ass pieces of GFK in 20 years

[astral haven]

The only forces that are constant are tidal and solar

And wind is the easier to harness form of tidal energy

[hardy idol]

solar panels uhh

[old marlin]

Solar is a viable solution for places that can do non-photovoltaic plants

[astral haven]

Exist and are getting better over time

[astral haven]

Solar requires storage, but that is fine anywhere there is water or money

[hardy idol]

Sure, but they're not always fire safe

Require a lot of surface area to really generate something

[halcyon moss]

good thing the surface area on your roof is not being used

[hardy idol]

We have half our roof covered in solar panels

[astral haven]

🤷‍♀️ solar can go over areas that don't need the solar energy like buildings and roads

[old marlin]

Not with molten salt etc

[astral haven]

And it can be put over deserts

[hardy idol]

Solar panels blocking light for roads is a safety issue

[old marlin]

Molten salt is op af in general

[astral haven]

Molten salt is alot larger up front investment and is less scalable
It's good but moneiz

[hardy idol]

I'm so happy you just found a way to destroy your money

[halcyon moss]

lol solar roads

[hardy idol]

Deserts will grind up the panels quicker than enything

[old marlin]

Why should it be put over roads

[hardy idol]

His idea, not mine

[hardy idol]

here

[old marlin]

Molten salt

[hardy idol]

👀

[old marlin]

Costs more

But solves a lot of the problems of photovoltaic

[astral haven]

Pv is more scalable but salt is better

Just get what you can tbh

[halcyon moss]

transparant solar panels exist

[astral haven]

Partially

[hardy idol]

less efficient though

But

[astral haven]

More efficient than having to cool whatever is under them

[hardy idol]

You'd be destroying a lot of biodiversity with the 'humans first, we need energy' mindset

[halcyon moss]

but there is no need to put them above roads yet when there are so many rooftops

[astral haven]

Anyone proposing that humans be sacrificed for sake of nature is a sociopath

[old marlin]

In germany private solar is pretty shit

You get about half of the price you pay per kwh

[hardy idol]

we could simply use less energy, be more efficient etc. Less energy doesnt mean someone dies

[astral haven]

It's pretty shit in the us too
If only the fossil fuel subsidy dollars could go to renewables

[hardy idol]

The US is a shit country

[old marlin]

Most effective time is smack dab in the work day

And there are no "storage" networks

[astral haven]

And you propose this by making some humans suffer? I think not...

[hardy idol]

You wouldnt suffer

[astral haven]

Forcing people to do things makes them suffer

So here's the genius idea that musk came up with

[hardy idol]

Humanity has destroyed enough biodiversity already.

[old marlin]

Are there any rat tails attached to it is the other question

[astral haven]

Make the people want an electric car

[old marlin]

Like with too low water consumption

[hardy idol]

ah, so you're suffering because you need to eat in order to survive

[chrome estuary]

Technically under his definition. Yes.

[halcyon moss]

biggest energy savings come from improving your home. insulation being the most important one.

[chrome estuary]

^

[old marlin]

We could nuke ourselves back to the stone age, but what problems have you solved with that

[chrome estuary]

Insulation and modern HVAC equipment go a hell of a long way

[old marlin]

HVAC

Still not a thing here

[astral haven]

Well yes
In general the entirety of the existence of humans is the struggle against suffering so what is your point

[halcyon moss]

then "stuff" is an other important factor. use your stuff for longer etc.

you dont need a new phone every year.

[hardy idol]

Tho what I don't understand

[halcyon moss]

then comes food, eat less meat.

then transportation

[astral haven]

Yes but the important part is not forcing anyone to do anything

Make it feel like they are gaining something by making the change

[old marlin]

Naaah

Targeted price for diesel and gas in germany is 2€ a liter

[chrome estuary]

Dude my fatass would die of heat stroke if it weren't from AC

[hardy idol]

First we want to save the planet. global warming is a threat to a lot of animals and ecosystems?
And then we say fuck planet cuz 1 human is less happy because forced to use less energy and make their lives more energy efficient?

nah mate

We live on this planet.

We don't own it.

[old marlin]

First off

The planet does not give a shit

[halcyon moss]

2 birds with one stone :p
loose weight and need less ac :p

[old marlin]

Unless we blow ot to pieces permanently destroying life on earth is impossible

[astral haven]

Yea we can do whatever the fuck we want as long as we survive long enough to get off

[chrome estuary]

Ikr. I need to get on that but life keeps wiping it's mud covered boots all over my nice rug

[halcyon moss]

and you voted VVD?

[old marlin]

The only reason to keep biodiversity up is to not accidentally cause a chain reaction

Like with bees

[astral haven]

It's not about the plants or mother nature
It's about keeping the humans alive

[old marlin]

Yes

[hardy idol]

More of a strategic vote than an actual consideration

[halcyon moss]

🤔

[hardy idol]

crash down one ecosystem and it's out of balance

[astral haven]

But here's the thing
Why force people to do anything when they will do it on their own and be happy about it with a slightly different approach

[hardy idol]

That slightly different approach includes fear of suffering

Suffering high taxes etc

[astral haven]

?

[hardy idol]

So we rather do this

And btw

Who said that I wanted to force people to use less energy?

[astral haven]

The slightly different approach has nothing to do with taxes or the government

[hardy idol]

I just said we should use less energy.
We make everything more efficient. We don't need to force it?

[astral haven]

You did
The only way to get people to do something they don't like is to force them obviously

[hardy idol]

No

[astral haven]

?

[hardy idol]

For one, you just told another option

[halcyon moss]

there is a middle gorund

and that is nudging them

[hardy idol]

yeah

[astral haven]

And have you figured out a way to do that?

[hardy idol]

See how fucking inconsistent you are

[astral haven]

Cause musk has

[hardy idol]

And constantly changing my words

or misinterpreting them

[halcyon moss]

yes, increase taxes :p and make cool things

[astral haven]

Has nothing to do with taxes

[halcyon moss]

tesla did* (tesla is way more than musk)

[hardy idol]

EVs are often taxed lower than ICE cars

[astral haven]

No
Must had the idea
Tesla is one aspect of the execution
The idea has nothing to do with anything that Tesla specifically is doing it's more psychology rbh

[hardy idol]

lol you must be kidding right?

Tesla was a thing before musk

[astral haven]

Yes I mean the car company

[hardy idol]

Tesla 100% had a roadmap before musk arrived

That Elon happens to be the one to tell everyone about it at conferences does not mean he thought of it all himself

[astral haven]

🤷 must made it happen like it or not

There's a nearly infinite number of ideas
It requires people to push the right ones forwards...

And musk happened to have the money to do so

[hardy idol]

Tesla was already on their way before musk

If musk didnt do it, there wouldve been other investors

[astral haven]

They would have never released a car without musk

[hardy idol]

funny

[astral haven]

You need to brush up on the history of evs my guy

[hardy idol]

The first EV was made in 1906

[astral haven]

I mean practical evs

[hardy idol]

IT WAS

practical

[astral haven]

Post gasoline

And the era of subburbs

[hardy idol]

We're still using gasoline, my guy

We're not post gasoline yet

[astral haven]

No, after the invention of gasoline refinement

[hardy idol]

There were EVs in the 80s

Hydrogen cars too

[astral haven]

Yes and those got swept under the rug

[hardy idol]

Because the EV technology wasn't far enough then

[astral haven]

By guess what
Investors

[hardy idol]

Mercedes has enough money, hun

[astral haven]

The most successful electric car before 2010 was swept under the rug by strategic investment from oil companies...

[hardy idol]

No, they were unsuccesful because the technology wasn't there

Those cars weren't able to travel far, and had very underpowered motors

[astral haven]

100 mile range in 99 with many charging stations set up within the trial area

[halcyon moss]

are you now talking about the ev1?

[hardy idol]

In 1980? nah

[astral haven]

Yup

Fantastic car that just got swept under the rug

[hardy idol]

Underpowered, Low range.

That's why, with current technology, they're finally taking off

[astral haven]

That range was long enough to be a real problem for oil companies, so it got canned and demolished

[hardy idol]

(that's just something for the US to do)

Oh and

Ever heard of

If you have a great idea, believe in it?

GM couldve made more of them

[astral haven]

Id fucking take an ev1 right now lol (if it used chademo or ccs

[hardy idol]

It's not like anyone can stop you from making battery car

Sure, safety and laws but

I'm sure they didn't make a law that said: No battery car

[astral haven]

I have to work for money to not starve my guy

[halcyon moss]

ev1 had more HP than the first renault zoe

[hardy idol]

Aka if it was so great

Why did they stop making it?

[astral haven]

I ain't got time (or space) to build a car too

[halcyon moss]

or the current zoe

[astral haven]

They intentionally demolished all of them due to pressure from investors...

[halcyon moss]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F

[hardy idol]

Basically means they didn't believe in it enough

What people want, isn't always the best for them (Henry Ford and the faster horses)

[astral haven]

It took 6.5 billion from musk
Do you have any idea how little money that is for oil companies?

[hardy idol]

Do you have any idea what a laughable amount of money that is to the VOC?

[astral haven]

You don't build what people want aka ask for now, you build what they will want once you make it

[hardy idol]

So, how did the fiat multipla get made?

[astral haven]

What

[hardy idol]

Xd

[astral haven]

Never heard of that ev?

[astral haven]

Or is the multipla so horrific that it's a counterpoint to this

[hardy idol]

No but you said: you build what they will want once you make it

[astral haven]

Oh god that is a horrific design wtf

[hardy idol]

yeah, car companies dont always make what they think the customer wants hahaha

[astral haven]

I mean
They do if they want to sell them?

There are strategic products that exist to promote sales of other products but that's a bit lengthy to say

Anyways ive given you the info you need to understand why musk did what he did

I need sleep now so that I can make money tomorrow

[hardy idol]

I didn't need any info on Musk

[astral haven]

Obviously you did when you made this statement...

[hardy idol]

No

I knew why he did it.

But for ultimate efficiency, that car would be different

[astral haven]

Actually no no it would not

Because of the mile per gallon paradox

[hardy idol]

You're saying you need to go 0-60 in under 6 seconds?

[astral haven]

I'm saying the Tesla needs to be like that otherwise fewer people would have bought it

[hardy idol]

And I'm saying that I understand that, but for peak efficiency that car would be different

[astral haven]

No that's not maximizing efficiency that is maximizing range of a single car

[hardy idol]

Pulling peak voltages from the battery is bad for it's longevity, but it also is less efficient to go super fast and have to brake again

[astral haven]

Efficiency has a lot more factors that than just range of a single car

[hardy idol]

No. Could mean less battery for the same range

[astral haven]

Oh you mean literal mile per kilowatt hour efficiency

Not actual overall energy efficiency

Yeah obviously mile per kilowatt hour was not Elon musk's goal

Otherwise the model 3 would look like an aptera lmao

Because I don't care how efficient your car is in miles per kilowatt hour, if no one buys it that's not an efficient car overall

It didn't increase the overall efficiency of transportation...

[hardy idol]

You don't have to take it aptera far to have a goodlooking design thats also aerodynamic

And drivetrain energy loss can be minimalized etc

Even when keeping current bodies, the teslas can be more efficient

[astral haven]

Yea there was that vw conceptual car that looked cool that could do 250mpg and it was a reasonable shape

[hardy idol]

Yes, thats a dream car for me

Wait lemme find a good pic

[astral haven]

But at what cost?
Cause if that comes at the cost of performance, fewer people will switch from gas to electric

[hardy idol]

Really?

[astral haven]

Yeee

[hardy idol]

you don't need performance in a daily

For daily cars, fuckall y'all don't need high power

For performance cars, go ahead

[astral haven]

Yea no it's super easy
The most efficient design is teardrop/raindrop shape

[hardy idol]

the insight doesnt do 100km/l

[astral haven]

I don't
i don't 3vwn need a car
But there are people who aren't willing to drive a sluggish car

The insight is ugly asf

[hardy idol]

Lightyear One

The dream

[astral haven]

This was a production car it was just too expensive to be a proper success
140k for a 2 seater

[hardy idol]

It's literally an experimental car

XL1

[astral haven]

Yup but it was technically production

[hardy idol]

Yes

It's a production car, but it wasn't meant to take over the world

[astral haven]

You could buy it if you were a masochist or collector

[hardy idol]

It has near 0 storage space, seats 2 adults

yep

Lightyear One, limited too, but it's tech is very cool and that'll trickle down to the next Lightyear car

[astral haven]

It was a good car tbh

[hardy idol]

Would've been a lot cheaper if they made more than 250 units

[astral haven]

I'd bet you could do an electric conversion of the ve and be ahead in mpge

Vw

Actually hmm
I wonder how efficient you have to be with gas to beat the efficiency of en electric car (raw joules wise)

[hardy idol]

not possible

unless

Unless you go fast

[astral haven]

I mean there's always a possibility

There was this endurance car project at the local uni that went an insane distance on a microscopic amount of fuel

[hardy idol]

yeah but thats the interesting part

For a daily, wouldn't an ultra efficient, but not super fast, car be the dream?

[astral haven]

Like at some point the electrical conversion and reconversion can't be as good as direct mechanical linkages

[astral haven]

I'd like a car that has ac tho tbh

[halcyon moss]

get a zoe

[astral haven]

I mean I can't afford any car lol

Hydrogen is not a fun

[hardy idol]

I don't have AC, I have a sunroof

[halcyon moss]

hydrogen sucks compared to bev

[astral haven]

Hydrogen also doesn't scale down very well
The larger the volume the more efficient it is

[halcyon moss]

just so inefficient

[astral haven]

Charging gets faster and less needed over time

[halcyon moss]

how much do they drive? probably very little

[hardy idol]

My own cars are gasoline, but they're both 30+ years old
(using old stuff for longer is better than taking new resources to produce a new car)
I use my moms car for daily mostly. It

[young pecan]

To be fair any of the super big long haul things can carry a LOT of power.

Semis and such.

[astral haven]

And at the local uni they came up with a system that swaps a underbelly battery faster than you fill a gas car at the gas station

[hardy idol]

my moms car is an electric b class xd

[young pecan]

Wouldn't wanna see an ambulance be electric, though. :L
Those are already really heavy as is.

[hardy idol]

One like this is my daily

[young pecan]

This is cool.

Battery hotswap?

[hardy idol]

battery hotswap is a nice idea but it'd require standardization of batteries.

Remember when we tried to standardize USB C for phones in 2017?

APPLE!!!!!!

[young pecan]

Ah yes. Apple.

[hardy idol]

and I'm 100% sure Tesla will do a similar thing if standardization would happen

[astral haven]

Something like this is my daily :lmao:

[astral haven]

Easily done for fleet vehicles

[hardy idol]

True

[astral haven]

Home users can charge at home overnight

[young pecan]

Could also do modular battery banks on top of hot swaps.

[hardy idol]

but it'd only be for certain types of car

[young pecan]

Modular banks.

Have a typical car sized battery be the standard, if you need more you can just have clip on batteries to increase the performance. Large stuff like utes I mean.

[hardy idol]

or flywheels

[young pecan]

Or flywheels, yeah.

[hardy idol]

Go to 'fuel station'
thing attaches to axle on roof

NYOOOOOOOOOOOM

[young pecan]

Assuming you don't mind the terrifying nature of a flywheel being near you.

[hardy idol]

aye! charged up

hhhhhh

[astral haven]

Hydrogen for long range, battery swap for within the city transport

[hardy idol]

no a flywheel is dangerous to have in a moving object

[young pecan]

Nah nah, it's fine.

Just don't turn EVER.

If you value life.

[hardy idol]

if the flywheel was spinning vertically, you'd get downforce turning one way, and liftoff on the other

yeah hhh

[astral haven]

Just need 4 flywheels

[young pecan]

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[hardy idol]

WOULD BE EPIC FOR NASCAR

permanent downforce due to constantly turning left

[young pecan]

Vertical nascar, let's go.

If it's not a massive danger to everyone within 40 metres we're doing it wrong.

[hardy idol]

This uses that force to turn tho

Gyro X car

[young pecan]

Kinda cool.

[hardy idol]

yes!

it is

but the turning circle is

not impressive ahhah

because the wheels dont turn

you turn because you lean into a corner

like on a bike sorta

theres a few arms that pull the flywheel when you steer

mechanically speaking it's very, very cool

[young pecan]

Oh that's just awesome.

Impractical as hell, but awesome.

[hardy idol]

Yep

time to buy one

[halcyon moss]

twizy should be fun too

[hardy idol]

I'd rather walk

[halcyon moss]

what about thre carver

[hardy idol]

the what

MR?

[halcyon moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5Uym-YdAc

[hardy idol]

ahh yes

@young pecan wants a Mclaren F1

[young pecan]

I do be wanting a Mclaren.

[hardy idol]

I want an F40

[halcyon moss]

hey i want a taycan. one can dream.. :p

[hardy idol]

AW11

?

AW11 or other gens of the toyot mista two are fun cars

[young pecan]

Ngl I just want Mclaren stuff.

[hardy idol]

hh simp

[young pecan]

The only other cars I particularly care for are VW cars and some Lotus things.

Lotus makes hilariously small cars.

[hardy idol]

Or americans are hilariously big people

[young pecan]

Nah, it's just Lotus makes some really small cars.

Lotus Elise as an for example.

[hardy idol]

I'm not happy with my body, but I'm not america-fat for sure

I hate my body for other reasons than fat

but anyways

@young pecan when we going supercar shopping

Make a replica, and EV swap that lol

and dont get killed by purists

Yes

[young pecan]

Part of me wants to buy 2 original F1s and EV convert one of them.

Just for the sole reason of pissing off the purists.

[hardy idol]

Yep

(restoration project)

btw that garage is small asf

I have an other car

But usually use my moms electric b class for daily

cheep

[hardy idol]

shut up

that

that's burning money on a major scale

[young pecan]

Worth it.

[hardy idol]

you'd literally destroy like 3 million

[young pecan]

If I'm rich enough to buy a fucking F1 I'm easily rich enough to not give a shit.

[hardy idol]

true

why choose a DJ over a DN

(idk if theres a DN)

Just want to make a Deez Nuts joke

but failed

lol

@young pecan btw buy me a Lightyear one and I'll give you my 7.8 humble ethereums

Xd

[young pecan]

Lmfao wot, you're on 7.8 now?

[hardy idol]

yeah lmfao

[young pecan]

Holy shit nice.

Hella gains.

[hardy idol]

yea, but i do need to sell over 3k to make some nice profits now

[young pecan]

Realistically so long as you're making Eth you're good.

[hardy idol]

I don't want to gamble with 7.8 ETH for 300 euros profit

[young pecan]

Don't really give a fuck that the Eth value has dropped, doesn't matter at all.

[hardy idol]

yeah

ETH is the one to harvest

not eur

fuck EUR

noone likes you

€

€ <-- bad

[young pecan]

Clearly the best currency is AUD.

[hardy idol]

Fuck hell no

AUD is worthless

[young pecan]

Clearly the best currency.

[hardy idol]

nO

[young pecan]

[hardy idol]

yknow why AUD is so bad

it's cheap Dx

like, buy a PC in australia and thats literally pocket moneh when u convert it to euros

[young pecan]

To be fair we do get everything last.

Australia still doesn't have SteamVR.

[halcyon moss]

how doesnt it have that?

[young pecan]

We get everything last.

Got decent VR a good 2 years after the US did.

[hardy idol]

hh

Aeon move to the EU

[young pecan]

There's a reason EU sounds like Ew.

Australia forever. >:D

But tbh this country has some very unbalanced shit you can do for cash.

That's most of why I'm still here.

[misty saffron]

russian ruble is best currency

[hardy idol]

[hardy idol]

oh?

unbalanced shit you can do for cash sounds a lot like what you do in the weekends

[young pecan]

The laws for taxes and such here are pretty good if you're setup.

[shadow minnow]

£ is even worse

[hardy idol]

true

buy food for the price of a car

aint that bad

locke wait you were in a very uh

hawaii right

or something like that

[shadow minnow]

Well I can, but not for normal prices. Especially water bottles here are crazy

[hardy idol]

yeah thats cool but also hella annoying i think?

[shadow minnow]

Greece did a good thing with limiting price of water bottles

[hardy idol]

idk hows life on hawaii

i think id get bored quickly on an island

[young pecan]

What does that sentence even mean?

Basic living? Existing? Living with a twist?

[hardy idol]

hm

mhm

id wanna go to hawaii someday but

i think, considering i live in the netherlands

that going there is like

$$$$

expensif

oof

[young pecan]

Ok, but what upsides are there in Hawaii?

[hardy idol]

volcano

if boom, then die

Yay!

[young pecan]

I mean yeah, kinda.

Volcanos are pretty cool.

Alright so aside from a volcano what is there?

[misty saffron]

isn't that the entire usa

[hardy idol]

Sea

a lot of it

oh wait, ocean

[young pecan]

Interesting stuff, I mean.

[misty saffron]

more ocean

[hardy idol]

THE OCEAN IS INTERESTING

SHUT UP

[young pecan]

._.

[hardy idol]

I just don't dare to swim in deep water

[misty saffron]

pussy

[hardy idol]

I'm really uncomfortable when I can't stand

because fear of unknown creatures that might scare me, or drowning

[misty saffron]

just breathe air lol

[hardy idol]

I see these videos of people swimming in like 50+m deep, but very clear water and i freak out

[misty saffron]

won't drown

[hardy idol]

im

im really scared of swimming where i cant stand

wow

hawaii is pretty big no?

how big is it

[misty saffron]

where the fuck is hawaii on the map

[hardy idol]

hahaha noober

[misty saffron]

oh there it is

[hardy idol]

cant even find hawaii

hawaii is in the supermarket

in the freezer

usually packed in a square box

and its fucking disgusting

[misty saffron]

understandable

[hardy idol]

imma just say thats v small

like your co- click

thats the most butchered netherlands ive ever seen

[misty saffron]

i'm proud of my cock

[hardy idol]

I'm saving this

[misty saffron]

you're supposed to speak dutch in netherlands

[hardy idol]

wait why was the quality so bad

[hardy idol]

And swear with diseases

[misty saffron]

kanker hoer

[hardy idol]

bruh

yeah

I'm proud of you

but fr like

Can't find an adjective? Cancer be looking like a pretty good option...

like, idk why people do it

[misty saffron]

uhm

thanks i guess?

[hardy idol]

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1437367346805497868?s=19

Have I Got News For You (@haveigotnews)

Climate change protestors block the M25, because if there’s one thing that’s good for the environment it’s thousands of cars idling all day.

Retweets

217

Likes

2181

Twitter · Sep 13, 2021, 10:47 AM

[reef patrol]

Maybe those cars should follow the law and not idle.

[latent mural]

apparently the group protesting is a single-issue group who wants britain's homes insulated free of charge like we haven't just had two of the worst summers in history back-to-back

hardly a climate protest

[reef patrol]

Insulation helps in both polar seasons.

[latent mural]

sure, but nobody has aircon here

[reef patrol]

I hear a challenge, not a problem.

[hardy idol]

Okay so

Problem with government
Bully the hard working everyday people?

I don't understand this shit

If you have a problem with your govermment

Take it to the government

Didn't think anyone would ever need that explained to them but protestors are a different breed of stupid

[young pecan]

@hardy idol Most of society suffers from a condition called square brain.

Attacking the wrong people to solve something? Sounds pretty damn square brain to me.

[wheat plume]

What does the lock slider on the side of SD cards do?

[hardy idol]

Square brain. Haha

In Latin they'd say 'homo quadratus' aka square human

[wheat plume]

I found my old ass camera I had back in like 2007 or some shit
And I got the SD card out of it

Time to see what's on it!

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMseCc9tZY

First proper PS4 emulator only has a Linux build. The penguin fanatics are going to love this 😄

[sage lodge]

if it's down it is read only, up is read-write

[fair gull]

talking about up and down when they are relative terms

[reef patrol]

Sure is a good thing it's labelled with LOCK in one position then.

[sage lodge]

up/down is relative to the label printing, which i have never seen in any orientation other than the cut corner and contacts at the top

[fair gull]

na thats just a lie made up by the corporation

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Oh god no, if this happened Id probably dispose of it due to puberty.

Well actually it did happen.

And let's just say I really liked selena gomez

[misty saffron]

ass camera

[ashen spindle]

gotta love my normal work days

[misty saffron]

meh.

[fair gull]

wot

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd6lxwjX2Bk

actually interesting video

[chrome estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500132854920118282/887059085101506600/20210913_153434.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500132854920118282/887059372092567572/20210913_153456.jpg
When an animal is frightened, it will attempt to make it self look larger and more imposing.

[wheat plume]

LG Wing!

[chrome estuary]

yeah i'm in a precarious position with it

I'm transferring a fuck load of files and decided to move it to the fucking sd card instead of main storage first.

however i'm going from an ssd and there's only 51% transfer done and my battery life is steadily getting lower

the fucking sound this thing makes swiveling open is very satisfying

[wheat plume]

I have good wifi now!

[reef patrol]

[crisp granite]

Lana...I am so jealous rn

that's fast as f*ck, girl

[misty saffron]

no it’s not

that’s fast

[sage lodge]

the steam numbers are 8x what they say compared to the speedtest (MB vs Mb)

this is pretty good i'd say

[wheat plume]

HOW TF
IS THAT SO UNBALANCED?!

[sage lodge]

any sort of copper will be unbalanced

even if it's in the ISP lines and has very high throughput

[wheat plume]

lemme do a speedtest

brb

[sage lodge]

i just did that one but that was on wifi

[wheat plume]

Im currently watching a discord stream xd

[misty saffron]

long story short

isp doesn’t cap upload speed

[misty saffron]

and they couldn’t take the payment for the internet plan

for some reason

so that was funny

[sage lodge]

fast.com is my preferred speed test though since it accurately represents netflix speeds

[misty saffron]

netflix barely needs any bandwidth

[sage lodge]

well since fast.com uses netflix servers, it represents ISP caps on netflix and things like that

[crisp granite]

and now I want to fucking kill myself

[wheat plume]

wut

[crisp granite]

it was my ancient router all along

that's the reason speeds are shit

[wheat plume]

yeah
that makes sense

[crisp granite]

I'm getting like 10% of what I should be getting

[sage lodge]

yep that would do it

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-sad-gif-14865417

[sage lodge]

also there is such a thing as peak hours for internet usage so 2-6am will give you your best speed results

[misty saffron]

i mean, if your isp has turboshit max bandwidth

[sage lodge]

well my college is my isp

[crisp granite]

nope

it's my router, since I'm not plugged into the modem directly

[wheat plume]

you THAT close to them?!

[sage lodge]

i'm on campus (current student)

[crisp granite]

F

imagine being a student

this post was made by...student gang

[wheat plume]

ikr chuckles in 4th year

[crisp granite]

m00d

[wheat plume]

fucking Skylar .-.

[crisp granite]

welp, time to get a router that can handle my feckin internet now

[misty saffron]

get the apple router

[crisp granite]

hm

would go great with my iPad, pencil and Airpods

definitely would make me feel like more of a shill

hm...actually

[misty saffron]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/165060609217?epid=171531924&hash=item266e6104c1:g:dsgAAOSwGIRhOS~o

go

[crisp granite]

300 CAD for a router that can do gigabit speeds...

could probably do better elsewhere tbh

[misty saffron]

how much is that in real money

[wheat plume]

lol

[crisp granite]

300 Canuckistani Kopeks

succ my left nut

[wheat plume]

200 euro

[misty saffron]

i don’t understand turkish currency either

[vapid zodiac]

300 canadian pesos

[crisp granite]

turks use lira euro

dipshit

hm...230 CAD for an ASUS RT-AX58U CA version...

should I?

[ashen spindle]

wht tf would you spend that much on a thing that just forwards your signal

[vapid zodiac]

just ethernet

[crisp granite]

because the modem is too far away to justify routing cable 🙃

[misty saffron]

modem

what

[crisp granite]

whatever my ISP calls the magic box with the ethernet ports and their own branding

I couldn't care less what it does or is called, it facilitates my consumption of porn

[ashen spindle]

router without wlan?

[misty saffron]

wlan is such a german thing to say

[ashen spindle]

you can get gigabit routers with wireless for what, 30$?

so idk what kinda price you are looking at

[crisp granite]

idk...some assus thing that seems to scratch whatever itch I have

[misty saffron]

wouldn’t buy asus

[vapid zodiac]

i wonder if there is a way to tell what speed you would get with a good router in theory with a shit router

[sage lodge]

yeah, check your modem speed

[vapid zodiac]

lemme google that

im pretty sure its not just speedtest.net...

[misty saffron]

damn they offer online drug tests now?

[umbral knot]

I volunteer as tribute

it suck that I have to take this sacrifice

but I'll do it with honor

[vagrant pagoda]

Most router hardware will do 100mbit, it's always the software that lets them down

Edgerouter x is 60 bucks and will gbit speed

[vagrant elk]

Ouch, consider a NanoPi R4S. It's around $100 and can do gigabit speeds but it's ethernet only.

[crisp granite]

👀

well

I think I figured out the main issue

signal has to pass through 2 floors

that requires routing cable (I really don't want to do that) or living with lower speeds (I really don't want to do that)

[vagrant pagoda]

You can use power line adapters

Or get directional wifi antennas

[young pecan]

Actually hate these, but considering the 2 floors it'll likely be better anyway. :l

[vapid zodiac]

do you not hate doing anything?

[young pecan]

I personally really like making ethernet cables, weirdly enough.

Idk, there's something completely mindless about terminating those.

0 thought required.

Tbh also running em through walls is kinda relaxing.

Grab your long ass drill bit, some guides, stud finder, patch panel, maybe a few cable channels. Relaxing work.

[halcyon moss]

First on the wifi, oops

wired

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

solid side panel doesnt care about whats inside :p

[fair gull]

well the nanopi also has jackshit for actual features a 300bucko router has

im happy i spend a good 600bucks on ubiquiti router, switch and ap

[young pecan]

Heavy agree.

Sure it's not the best you can possibly get, but the ubiquiti stuff is pretty damn nice.

[old marlin]

it probably is the best if you don't want to make managing your home network a fulltime job

[young pecan]

WhAt DonT yOU WanT EnTeRPRiSe CiScO?

[old marlin]

lol

we worked with netacad in school

[young pecan]

Same.

:C

[old marlin]

Sorry to hear that

[young pecan]

I never thought I'd actually genuinely hate cisco.

But then netacad...

[old marlin]

Lol

[young pecan]

Fuck it's so bad.

You go with almost anyone else major in the enterprise space and they're leagues better.

But then you have Cisco with their 40% of the options are hidden and only accessible from CLI.

Proper brainlet design right here.

[old marlin]

Then add my shitty teacher not being able to pronounce "enable"

[young pecan]

Lmfao wot?

[old marlin]

And saying "inable" instead

[young pecan]

Ngl I wish Cisco would just update their UIs.

The actual functionality is really good, but the entire UX is just wack.

[old marlin]

yes

[old marlin]

I see you didn't get to ipv6 shit

[young pecan]

I did.

And ok fine.

Fine that's true enough.

[old marlin]

[young pecan]

But for IPv4 which is most things.

And c'mon, if you're doing something complex enough to warrant actually touching IPv6 then you're rolling in a class high enough to not even be able to see Cisco through the cloud cover.

And we both know you don't touch IPv6 for the client count.

Just use a class A or B subnet and be done with it, if you can actually need more than that many clients you can always just make another subnet and run into few issues.

[earnest jay]

Nice, enjoy your 3060. 🙂

[hardy idol]

I don't know if I like ubiquiti

[fair gull]

love em

[earnest jay]

Cool, what was your graphics card before the 3060?
And I myself really want to try out Minecraft RTX.

[warped dove]

Jeez companies are still using that weird white stringy putty fit thermal pads?

Jayztwocents got a 20c degree improvement by replacing the pads on a 3080

[chrome estuary]

All right so I'm liking the LG Wing so far. I'm going to be glad when the case comes in though cuz the phone needs a little more meat to hold comfortably. But using the second screen on its own somewhat I'd really enjoy a tiny device that's only like a 3.6 inch square like this one is.

[warped dove]

My shitty take away: all the miner cards are getting fucking destroyed running at over 100c on all hotspots

Second hand market is dead

[warped dove]

Image of Chinese guy peeling an apple using smartphone

[chrome estuary]

Makes me think of the day that opened the fucking beer bottle with his iPhone the damn thing popped apart

[ashen spindle]

funnily enough mining usually hurts them less than other usage

less stress on memory which is the hottest part usually due to less cooling touching it

esp. the big farms have it in their own interrest to have decent cooling so the heat is lowerred to keep electricity down

though 24/7 mining on bad cooling is probably still worse than 8hr gaming unless it's actually choking on heat

[fair gull]

how about 0hr gaming

my gpu by now is a glorified word and ide gpu

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah, forgot iphone 13 announced today

shows how big the changes are

[misty saffron]

the camera changes are quite impressive though ngl

[young pecan]

Ngl 3080 or higher for RTX Minecraft.

Just the normal MC RTX is kinda awful, if you want something really special you need to go with shaders.

[pale sigil]

Haha it really is bad

[young pecan]

And the highest end continuum with a nice texture pack? You’ll need a 3080 to really push it to the cap.

[spring locust]

im still pissed they didnt offer windows minecraft for a longer period (for java owners)

[reef patrol]

Or forever.

[spring locust]

i knew about it too late

[reef patrol]

To make more people move over.

[spring locust]

yes

this way i would have to pay for it... which is not going to happen, as its just a fancy feature for showing off

[young pecan]

I mean...

It’s not even worth buying.

You pay to lose features and add a bad microtransaction store.

Who in the hell willingly buys that?

And you can’t even mod it.

[pale sigil]

Bedrock is pretty bad outside of sp vanilla

[reef patrol]

RTX my dude

[young pecan]

Java literally competes with the likes of Skyrim for user mods. Why pay to not get that...?

We already have modded RTX. ._.

[pale sigil]

MP bedrock has so many walls

It's awful

[young pecan]

SEUS PTGI and Continuum are the 2 major examples.

[pale sigil]

Also we don't have rtx

We have Ray tracing shaders ;)

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Bruh.

[pale sigil]

Afaik there's only one thing in development that actually uses rtx

And irs pay to access

For java

[young pecan]

Yes, Continuum.

Fully fleshed out RTX shaders.

[pale sigil]

But from what I've gathered

Isn't much of a difference in terms of performance

[young pecan]

There’s infinitely better value.

Shaders AND mods/plugins. :D

[pale sigil]

Yanno, I'd love to try it but you have to buy it

And I ain't about that life

[shadow minnow]

We do with continuum

[pale sigil]

you umm

didn't keep reading i guess

xD

[shadow minnow]

Sorry, just do t have time playing cards against humanity, read it too late

[crisp granite]

it has been years since I've played that game

definitely should at some point though

also need friends to play with though 😬

[shadow minnow]

It’s 1:30 and I am waking up at 7:45. So not the best. But still fun playing with like 20 people.

[ashen spindle]

alright iphone 6 looks like you're still not getting replaced

cmon apple wtf is this shit

[young pecan]

Wait what?

US only?

[ashen spindle]

same as last years model yup

[young pecan]

Weird.

Roommate has a 12 Pro Max with exactly that cellular spec.

[ashen spindle]

maybe US model is the one sold in australia too

[young pecan]

I guess?

[earnest jay]

I managed to get my hands on a 3080 Ti, so that should be fine.

[young pecan]

From experience I can tell you with utter certainty that MC can trivially cap a 3080Ti. :p

[earnest jay]

No surprise there. 🙂

Ahh, ok, I myself will be upgrading from the 980 that I'm currently using.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, wish it was already not just US models for mmWave

[chrome estuary]

Honestly it's ridiculous what MC can do. I've got a 2700x and a 3070ti and modestly modded Minecraft still strains my damn system

[timid chasm]

pretty sure modded MC will strain anything that currently exists

[halcyon moss]

tell that to elastic search

[fair gull]

damn

52 days on time

and 1.5tb lifetime writes

[wheat plume]

My sister's internet connection is really unbalanced..

480Mbps up
20Mbps down

And she's using Ethernet

[ashen spindle]

yes normal pretty much everywhere

[wheat plume]

Hmm..

[reef patrol]

Yeah you usually pay more for even connections.

But in these influencer times, it's slowly becoming more of a standard.

[wheat plume]

I dislike American phone networks
And now idk how to feel about ISP either

Mine is quite unbalanced too but not as bad
But upload is faster than download

I think everyone would prefer faster down then up :')

[ashen spindle]

with pretty much everywhere I meant pretty much everywhere, not just america

[wheat plume]

Yes

Ooooo... That's a steal at that price

[shadow minnow]

My has ton of power cycles since OC

[wheat plume]

What's the one for 13%?

[wheat plume]

SWITCH GOT AN UPDATE TO ALLOW BLUETOOTH AUDIO

[reef patrol]

Nintendont does it again.

[wheat plume]

You can only have two controllers
I assume the JoyCon individually count as two

So it's a trade off but if you are using headphone I think it's fine cause then you aren't playing the game with someone else in person

[reef patrol]

Seems a bit odd to use wireless audio if you're playing with friends anyhow 😄

[wheat plume]

Yes exactly
That trade-off is extremely fair imo

There is two new options I found
Other than the BT audio
"Screen Burn-In Reduction" and "Update Dock"

Hmm
I could update my dock but I don't have space in the room to use it

[wheat plume]

Is it safe to use one extension cable for a computer, 2 monitors and a Nintendo switch + dock?

[reef patrol]

In europe? Usually yes. As long as you're not using a thing wired extension.

Gotta be thicc

[wheat plume]

Thin wired

Wut

Uhh.... Lemme check the thiccness

[reef patrol]

It has to have some gauge to it.

[wheat plume]

It has an on off switch on it and two USB ports also

[reef patrol]

That looks fine.

Americans be like "It's fine - Totally not a fire hazard"

[wheat plume]

They are all plugged in rn but the computer and one monitor is not on
Only my switch dock and one monitor is on rn

This one should be safe? I do have another extension cable plugged in but I'm not currently using it
Maybe I could plug the dock onto that one

[crimson wigeon]

Why wouldn't it be safe to use something as intended

[wheat plume]

Idk
A computer and a switch dock and two monitors can be quite high-power draw

[reef patrol]

Because "intended" is not quite the same as "maximum possible power draw" 😄

[wheat plume]

Yes... ^^

The computer max is 550Watt but idk how close to that it can reach to when gaming or heavy load

[crimson wigeon]

You could probably run everything in your room from one outlet

[wheat plume]

That doesn't seem safe

[reef patrol]

Outlet, yes. Poor extension less so.

[wheat plume]

I got this one at lidl....

Which is probably not the best place to get electrical things

[crimson wigeon]

And well here in Europa I understand these standards to be quite strict so unless you're directly importing everything from China it'll be fine

[wheat plume]

Hmm....

[reef patrol]

Hence why I asked about the cord thickness. Which looks fine 🙂

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Europe gives a lot more of a shit with this stuff than America does

[crimson wigeon]

Murica where you can stick your finger in a halfway plugged in thing and zap yourself very ez mmm

[wheat plume]

Yep yep

Two metal prongs is fine.. pfft /s

[crimson wigeon]

But it make funny face

[wheat plume]

I like having a monitor mount

Yes
This desk can move on wheels... It's not fun

[crimson wigeon]

I dunno that could be useful

Unless it doesn't have those brakes on the wheels

[wheat plume]

IT DOESN'T HAVE A WHEEL LOCK

[reef patrol]

Hmm... did half of the world's internet just go down again? xD

Got disconnected from FF14 and half of the websites I'm testing with are dead.

[crimson wigeon]

Probably just you

[wheat plume]

O.o

Uh

[reef patrol]

And we're back. How odd.

[wheat plume]

It would be nice if it also showed the battery level of the pro controller on the main screen

But this is fine
The pro controller lasts forever !!

I should replace this extension cable
Get one with a surge protector built in

[reef patrol]

So... almost no americans 😛

Hell I'll bet if you ask most europeans about wire gauge and how to tell if it's too bad, they genuinely won't know.

[wheat plume]

nema plugs?

oh

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

We use happy smiley proper connectors.

[timid chasm]

Tbf, some of use those for light loads and not a whole PC setup

I can't speak for the ones who try to run tools off them though

[reef patrol]

Again though. Tell that to an American and watch them be confused and surprised

[timid chasm]

Nothing about Americans surprises me anymore. You grow semi-immune to it after a while

Actually, I lied. Covid and vaccines has brought a lot to light.

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Same but after a few years they kinda pooped

[wheat plume]

x to doubt

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1438196993369812995?s=21

Andreas Schilling (@aschilling)

There is a crowd-sourced reverse engineering document on the Apple M1 by @handleym99 – 350 pages, enjoy!

https://t.co/cqMNJfdmZe

Twitter · Sep 15, 2021, 5:44 PM

[crimson wigeon]

So much effort doing Apple's job for free

[timid chasm]

Google spying on me again. This was recommended after Mansen and Locke mentioning them. Coincidence? Doubtful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_q-xnYRugQ

[halcyon moss]

heh. its a good rant

[old marlin]

only got 3 outlets in my room

[reef patrol]

Same.

[old marlin]

also inconveniently placed

[reef patrol]

I use one for my Computer and Testbench PC. One for my chargers and my iMac. And the last for my Retro Console corner.

[old marlin]

and one of the 3 outlets is so old and worn that I don't touch it

[reef patrol]

All three are in bad spots in bookshelves xD

[old marlin]

also an odd one so I haven't replaced it

[reef patrol]

One of my walls is a thin plaster one with no wiring in it. They literally put in a wireless light power button to avoid dragging cables xD

[wheat plume]

Anyone have any idea why I cant change volume using my keyboard when I boot up into Linux but if I reboot back to linux then I can

oh

what

oh, solved it....
It no like that USB port

I plugged it into a USB 3 port
hmm fair enough

[timid chasm]

One of the first things I'm doing when we move back and start the remodel is tearing out all the drywall and running new wire and putting in some ethernet and other stuff maybe while it's open

The house is like 50 years old so it's probably due

[wheat plume]

Odd thing about this house, it has ethernet ports on the wall but its only wired for power and not ethernet

[shadow minnow]

House I live in is 10 years old and no Ethernet

[wheat plume]

o.o

[halcyon moss]

no ethernet at all

[wheat plume]

nope

[shadow minnow]

Basically my father thought it will be pointless since wireless feature. Was not entirely wrong since most of stuff there is apple, and even my pc had no issues with using just Wi-Fis, but if there were supposed to be more PCs…

[halcyon moss]

sure its not isdn?

[wheat plume]

not what?

[halcyon moss]

ah i forgot you're a youngling

digital telephone, uses a 8 pin connector like network cables do.

(but i think only 4 were actually connected?)

[wheat plume]

wtf ever this port is

[reef patrol]

Phone line.

And... Antenna I assume for the third.

[wheat plume]

how

is that explicit?! wtf discord

"Oh no! Better not allow HANDS to be sent into a server, those are too explicit"

[reef patrol]

My SWTOR character, a big burly russian dude in a fur coat was also too LEWD.

[wheat plume]

I want to buy some NFC cards

to make amiibo but idk how tf to do it

They even just outright show it can be used for this

wow

[halcyon moss]

perfectly safe outlets

[wheat plume]

Yeah... the housemate my friend had last semester broke it

.-.

[halcyon moss]

charge him/her for it

[wheat plume]

the power sockets work fine, at least

I love being able to switch on and off my speaker but fucki0ng pressing down the button with my foot

cause the speakers are on the floor

OOOOOOO
My friend already setup pi-hole on this network for us :D

thats great

dang

not bad

[halcyon moss]

#nocontext

[fair gull]

download app put amiibo onto card but ull most likely only find 1time write cards that lock

i personally first used an app to emulAte amiibo then bought an amiiqo

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/dylan522p/status/1438313107231842304

Dylan Patel (@dylan522p)

A15 is a 7.6% ST increase with 8% clock increase.
CPU architecture looks mostly the same, but with new MMU and nested virtualization.
https://t.co/U6Bo0US3f8
https://t.co/wTYxCZxAW1

Twitter · Sep 16, 2021, 1:25 AM

"new" cpu

[young pecan]

A14+

Yeeeeeeeeeeeet

[fair gull]

source cause thats def not a fucking nintendo pic

[wheat plume]

Never said it was

This is an Amazon page

[fair gull]

i dont understand this then

[wheat plume]

This is the Amazon page for a pack of 30 blank NFC cards

And this is one of the images they used to promote their usage

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i wonder where my n2 elite went to

found it

psure i have like 100 amiibos on this at least

[pale sigil]

XD

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most of them just modded one tho

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Ooo?

How do you select what one it uses?

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the small button at the side

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I love the map mouse mat

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Oooohh

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https://discordjs.moe/vkh0hyrlu50b.png

you can only select used slots

empty slots skip

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Ooh

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problem is tho that it only goes forward