🔌│tech

[shadow minnow]

Wallpaper engine at 60 hz can already take up over half of intel UHD 750s usage, at 144hz it makes even browsing web laggy

[empty wren]

Pause the wallpaper when Fullscreen or whatever

[shadow minnow]

Yeah turned it off for now

Cities skylines 8 fps at 4K

[reef tundra]

You have to drive 8294400 pixels at the refresh rate

no shit

[shadow minnow]

Can’t do even full hd at 30. Time to OC iGPU bit more

Atm running at 1600mhz instead of 1300

[shadow minnow]

Thaiphoon burner being on http site, is it safe to download?

[ashen spindle]

...

yes

[shadow minnow]

Looks like my ram indeed is b die Pog

[reef tundra]

Just cant be sure of the transfer being encrypted and untampered. But thats just because you dont have any certificates to check it

But you can get a certificate to a website distributing malware without issue

As https is for transport and identification purposes. Not content

If you know the checksum of the authentic software you can verify the download is real.

[shadow minnow]

Windows defender says it can’t find any virus and since everyone says it’s safe i guess. Also windows defender full scans are surprisingly fast, 5 minutes to scan like 300gb

[ashen spindle]

.. idk if you are serious but just to make sure, https means nothing for getting virus or not

and thus in reverse, getting something from http does not increase chance for it to be malware

[reef tundra]

It would decrease the chance to get malware if you wanted to get a malware file if you went from https to http.

A lot of the data doesnt need to be scanned anyway. Thats why it can go that fast

[shadow minnow]

Not a fan of two crashes I randomly had. Especially since I am running at lower frequency than before.

[reef tundra]

That would make no sense. Stability goes up as frequency lowers.

[shadow minnow]

I mean, did not use it for long enough before to know if it would not crash.

[ashen spindle]

you're touching voltage and go out of spec, if you weren't expecting crashes you're going into it wrong xD

[shadow minnow]

I am not going out of normal, or well, safe range

And out of spec is almost everything

[ashen spindle]

yes

[reef tundra]

Voltage? yea, that will heavily be influencing the frequency you can support. You need more voltage to allow for stabler and/or higher frequency

[shadow minnow]

Why does Microsoft want me to login so much into my account. Like there is almost nothing I can’t do without signing in.

[reef tundra]

Because it has no respect for user privacy

[shadow minnow]

I know. Already strange that 5200mhz all core is unstable at 1.375 after having been stable while XTU was so installed and XMP off.
Wish I knew max safe iGPU voltage. So far only know 1.2v can get me to 1500mhz and 1.25 to 1600
Also no idea why my cpu voltage is always 0.05 higher than what is set.

[reef tundra]

Not even the manufacturer knows the safe/max voltage the chip can survive at

[shadow minnow]

Tbh kinda surprised Microsoft did not force me to sign in when downloading sth from Microsoft store. But I got like two or three pop ups

[reef tundra]

windows software feel like 2000 era malware with the popups

[empty wren]

Given they say you can use a local account makes no sense they would unless paying for a thing

[shadow minnow]

Yeah. It gives you pop up to log in that looks like it won’t allow you to download if you don’t log in, which is false

[empty wren]

Try to download a game

Or something

[shadow minnow]

Downloading iTunes

[empty wren]

Strange that iOS could simply not allow reading the files directly

[reef tundra]

Maybe they want to emulate the good old xp days

[empty wren]

Since it would be less hassle

[reef tundra]

just forgot that malware wasnt it chief

[shadow minnow]

Help how do I turn on dark mode on windows iTunes it looks terrible in light mode

[reef tundra]

delete system32

[ashen spindle]

type "dark" in the windows search and it's the first or second result..

[reef tundra]

The best 2000s era answer

[shadow minnow]

It not work for iTunes

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-is-better-why-linux-is-better-shitdos-windows-gif-19494703

[ashen spindle]

then find out if itunes even has a dark mode

if apps dont have it windows cant magically make it happen

[reef tundra]

I can.. on a compositor level

[ashen spindle]

ok yes it can, it never ever should

[reef tundra]

The app wont know it happens nor cares

[shadow minnow]

My pc got slower. A lot

[reef tundra]

Telemetry or updater is busy

[shadow minnow]

Restart did not fully fix

[empty wren]

It is trying to get perfect blacks but cannot since lcd

[shadow minnow]

Even booting is slow

[reef tundra]

🤷 maybe you got a microsoft special and updated your drivers

[shadow minnow]

What that means?

Also bios reset smh

[ashen spindle]

are you sure it's resetting and not just switching it since you have dual bios

because gigbyte dual bios is known to have issues and using the wrong bios especially after a crash

[reef tundra]

Bios doesnt safe overclocking for obvious reasons. Once you think about it

[shadow minnow]

Nope, bios said so itself. Also see led

[shadow minnow]

It does afaik, at least usually. You need to clear cmos or safe boot when you screw something up.

[ashen spindle]

yes it changes bios without indicating it did change is the issue

[shadow minnow]

Tbh safe boot is really useful. Just not having to lose my configs.

Why it still slow. But bit better now.

[reef tundra]

Why let the bios save potentially unsafe setup when it can let the bootloader modify the values later and have a known safe environment

[empty wren]

For warranty pay

[shadow minnow]

Most of things run normally but windows defender not works.

[pale sigil]

That's good

Windows defender is shit

[reef tundra]

Because windows

[shadow minnow]

Well safe boot makes it simpler

[pale sigil]

Be happy it's broke

[shadow minnow]

Sure but want to check some field with at least sth

[ashen spindle]

man you used safe boot more in a day than I in my life

[shadow minnow]

It’s lot slower on HDD but still better than nothing

[pale sigil]

Can't believe I'm agreeing with quin here... But ditto

[shadow minnow]

Yeah. When using eve spectrum I could only boot with safe boot. Also couple times I crashed and when I had the voltage issue always used safe boot.

[pale sigil]

Just bloody run

Without bs

Intel boost

Sheesh

[ashen spindle]

yeah I would've ditched that board long ago and gotten a different one

and yes, I still dont understand why you want to OC without a dgpu

[shadow minnow]

I can OC iGPU too. Already did by 300mhz

[ashen spindle]

like you are making it less stable with values that aren't what you run with a gpu attachted to it

[shadow minnow]

Also apparently ram OC can help quite a bit with iGPU

[pale sigil]

Oml

[ashen spindle]

ya it does

[pale sigil]

You're at 4k

[shadow minnow]

yes

[pale sigil]

Literally nothing

Will. Help you

[ashen spindle]

but now enjoy running stress tests for validation

[pale sigil]

Period

[shadow minnow]

8 fps in cities skylines

Setting most games to full hd

[pale sigil]

Just stop messing around with it

Irs an igou

Igpu

Irs basically useless

So like

[ashen spindle]

if you want to OC for fun that's fine as well but then you should read up on how stuff works

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-stop-it-mj-michael-jordan-nope-gif-5098905

[shadow minnow]

All I have. So want to get it running as fast as I can

[pale sigil]

Nono quin

Irs not fine

Irs bexin

His system is more cursed than mine

[ashen spindle]

not really, it's just a bad board and the board is known to cause issues..

it's not issues on a board known for stability

[shadow minnow]

I mean I did, and that’s why I am OCing some stuff when it useless, fun.

[ashen spindle]

it's issues known on a setup known for issues

[reef tundra]

You are trying to use a bike pump to replace a turbojet engine

[ashen spindle]

but then you should read up what stuff does and not randomly set numbers based on what someone on a discord chat tells you is safe xD

[pale sigil]

How does bexin have a custom water loop

But then we are also here

[shadow minnow]

Atm only thing apart from not being able to install back intel XTU is that I can’t use eve spectrum, at least not when booting

[pale sigil]

How much was your loop kit bexy

That's your new name

Bexy

[shadow minnow]

I am not doing it randomly. Most of things set up based on some AHOC stuff..
but only source for iGPU OC I can find is random people doing the same thing

[ashen spindle]

yeah, basing an unstable system on infos from bz who does LN2 and hardcore ram OC without caring for stability.. what could go wrong

[shadow minnow]

Basing it on values he said are safe for long term use
Buldzoid usually talks about safe stuff for normal usage too, even if most of it is sth else

[reef tundra]

The manufacturer doesnt even know what it will be able to do. Just know what will be atleast be able to do

[ashen spindle]

ok but you still should understand where why and how those numbers apply and not just what numbers in scenario X are if you want to do your own oc

especially on an already unstable board..

[reef tundra]

Once chip might take overvolt of 0.5 while the other will die at 0.001 even if it came from the same batch

[astral haven]

Nah
That's not how the voltages work

The voltages that are safe are the same for the same cpus on the same node

The difference you will see between CPUs dying from voltage will be down to set voltage vs get voltage

[reef tundra]

Dont care, same argument of each chip being different

[astral haven]

No

It's not the same

There are voltages which are fully safe, you just have to understand set vs get

Because your motherboard will not give you the voltage you set unless you are very very careful

[astral haven]

Also the manufacturer knows exactly the degradation characteristics of their CPUs don't kid yourself
That's how different skus come to be

[ashen spindle]

they won't say it public in many cases but that doesnt mean they dont know it

[reef tundra]

You are hyperfocussing on voltage. Frequency or temperature also apply. dont just go blindly thinking one was able to do it you can

[astral haven]

Frequency doesn't change degradation

2 things do
Power and voltage

[reef tundra]

Power = voltage * current

[astral haven]

You have no control over power, and it's determined by voltage anyways

So all you have to mess with is voltage

Therefore voltage

Tldr set voltage properly and use proper loadline and you will be safe

Do not let the CPU request its own voltages when you change the clock behavior

If you do it will request too much and you will degrade your cpu

[ashen spindle]

(and most importantly when working on your own system understand what you are doing and dont just blindly punch in numbers from a list on a forum)

[reef tundra]

cool, your mileage might vary 🤷

[astral haven]

And especially when someone tells you information you didn't know, look it up to see if it is correct
And if they are telling you safety information that's especially important

[shadow minnow]

Okay this is strange. Pc still did not get faster, and sometimes I get bugged app in window irwith background black

[ashen spindle]

how do you measure "faster"?

[shadow minnow]

System just is not very responsive

Apps took longer to load

Sometimes get stuck

[astral haven]

Hwinfo it up

[shadow minnow]

By longer I mean going from instantly to pretty long

[reef patrol]

You move your feetsies faster, so the tape measurer doesn't get away

[ashen spindle]

[reef tundra]

/tp home

[reef patrol]

[shadow minnow]

Hwinfo is not responding…

[reef tundra]

Revert to last stable version

[shadow minnow]

Of what?

[reef tundra]

Your settings

[empty wren]

Hello, is your refrigerator running?

[shadow minnow]

Also I didn’t change anything before this behavior started.

[ashen spindle]

check drive health and check if your windows install is not broken

though I still just think the board is at fault

[shadow minnow]

How to check the second one?

[astral haven]

Board will give whqls

[ashen spindle]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e

[ashen spindle]

it's the z590 aorus elite iirc? not a board I'd use for using an iGPU and then oc'ing on it

[astral haven]

I'd avoid gigabyte in general unless you are super tolerant of issues...

[shadow minnow]

My external hdd is behaving like normal drive

[young pecan]

Absolutely this.

[shadow minnow]

Z590 master

[shadow minnow]

How should I eject it or what to do?

[young pecan]

I can't even begin to tell you how many fucking problems the old 3080 Eagle was causing me before I fucking yeeted the thing. Even the cheap 100MH/s wasn't worth the stupid BS that card was doing.

[astral haven]

Use the icon in the system tray?

[young pecan]

Now Zotac on the other hand...

Very pog.

Zotac just updates the VBIOS without any fuss.

Not Gigabyte, that'd be way too easy.

[young pecan]

Yeah ok, you have an HDD externally? Is it just a standard little HDD or an external dock?

[shadow minnow]

It’s external portable hdd, so has usb to connectZ

[young pecan]

Ah.

[shadow minnow]

also now it does not appear anywhere. So can’t eject it normally again.

[young pecan]

Weird.

Can you open partition manager?

Disk Management, I mean.

If it's not appearing there, that's a wee bit odd.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah it’s there. Managed to make it not show up as internal. But idk how to make it show up as external. As not even seagate toolki can’t communicate with it.

[young pecan]

Which version of Windows is this?

20H2?

[reef tundra]

The only reason to eject disk before removal is to be sure there is no file transfer

[shadow minnow]

Well I don’t see the disk anymore apart from disk management

[young pecan]

Also if you're a paranoid boy that needs it to stop spinning.

[shadow minnow]

21H1

[astral haven]

Some hdds don't support that

[young pecan]

Right, right. How old is this OS?

[reef tundra]

Most have journaling and can recover to non corrupted state. just the files mid transfer are gone

[young pecan]

I never mentioned that they supported it.
Sometimes people do a weird ritual.

[shadow minnow]

Not sure, installed it today.

[shadow minnow]

Issue is I can’t access it anymore

[young pecan]

I chalk it up to the nocebo effect.

[young pecan]

Yeah, reinstall with 20H2 or Windows 11.

20H1 is old.

H2 did bring a few fairly good changes, it's not worth skipping on them.

You can update directly to H2, but with the weird issues going on in your OS I'd just reinstall for sanity checking reasons.

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow just install osx

[reef tundra]

Or get a stable os like linux.

[empty wren]

Or android

[young pecan]

Linux being stable.

[reef tundra]

Windows being stable

[young pecan]

I feel like using Linux is kinda like playing Jenga. All is good until it's not.

[reef tundra]

Windows had corrupted its own bootloader with the updater, twice. Nothing major on linux. Worst is automatic recovery

[young pecan]

Linux has this thing it does when it meets a slightly weird program called "Fucking die".

Kinda wish it didn't do that, ngl.

[reef tundra]

Windows has this feature of "factory reset". Sneakily its fuck me up fam

[young pecan]

Never seen that even once.

Weird.

[reef tundra]

Launch it and see. Do have a bootable installer nearby because windows aint booting up after that

I mean its ending up in resetting the system

[young pecan]

Win has actually never had that issue for me.

I've used this OS or otherwise installed versions that've gotten heaps of use... idk, hundreds of times.

Not once have I ever heard of Windows randomly deciding to factory reset.

Heaps of other random crap, but not fac resetting.

[empty wren]

I have had windows failed to do a reset

[shadow minnow]

My water temp sensor is not working great

[shadow minnow]

Wish I could

[empty wren]

It either works or does not

[young pecan]

This sometimes happens.

But not random fac reset.

[astral haven]

Literally just walked a customer through it an hour ago

[shadow minnow]

So far my experience with windows did not change my opinion to windows being better at all

[empty wren]

Windows is meant for many devices anyways

So the fact that works is impressive

[young pecan]

I mean tbh you have a Gigabyte board. You were asking for Murphy to abuse your asshole with that decision.

[ashen spindle]

I don't mean to defend windows as it's a steaming piece of shit quite often

but your experience has nothing to do with windows

as I said before, you are noticing pre built vs self built

[shadow minnow]

Even with windows itself

[astral haven]

Yea it's shit but it's the shiniest pile of shit we have...

[shadow minnow]

Like drive detection or uninstalling stuff like intel XTU

[astral haven]

What went wrong with uninstalling xtu lol

[shadow minnow]

Not really. Shiniest that supports all stuff. But Linux is shinier

[empty wren]

Then why not use Linux xD

[young pecan]

Dude, if he can't do Windows there's not a snowballs fuck in hell that he's going to manage Linux.

[astral haven]

Haha no

[shadow minnow]

Can’t install it again because it’s already installed. It showed in apps and features for while, could not be launched, and said that it can not be uninstalled because of some error

[empty wren]

Fair enough

[ashen spindle]

I mean personally I'd just use bios settings over xtu anyway, but regardless of that, program not behaving how you want can happen on apple as well as on linux

[young pecan]

@shadow minnow Just reinstall Windows.

Idk what you did, but something is fucked.

And don't use XTU, just use BIOS settings.

[ashen spindle]

or just wait till you get a gpu and dont run 4k on iGPU

[young pecan]

Especially this.

And with the trying to OC an iGPU to squeeze more 4k performance out of it? Bruh.

[astral haven]

Gigabyte motherboard...

[young pecan]

Right, right.

Return the shitty board and buy something that isn't gigabyte.

[reef tundra]

Also had windows decide to randomly break drivers without any warning. Had the network driver stop working 15 minutes before an exam. Pro licence and everything. no popups. That is what I call, unacceptable behaviour

[young pecan]

Fuck, even bottom stack boards will do better than top tier Gigabyte.

As far as BIOS, at least.

[empty wren]

Are you sure, windows forcing an update no matter what you doing is not worse?

[astral haven]

Considering what I know about you the problem was between keyboard and chair

[young pecan]

Lmfao.

This do be what we call a Layer 8 problem.

[astral haven]

That is for when you have a person who would know the osi model...

[reef tundra]

How else can one can you explain it suddenly unable to connect to the internet through wifi and ethernet. Thinking its connected with a vpn, somehow. Reboot fixed the issue. Wasnt even doing anything and waited on the desktop

[young pecan]

Probably the classic "User installed fucked shit" problems that only manifests later.

Y'know how common that is? Installing something that only breaks after a week of it working right due to not opening the right combination of stuff?

[reef tundra]

Wasn't even opening anything

[young pecan]

shrugs That or background services.

Idk my guy, sometimes the OS is fucked.

[empty wren]

I had windows 8.1 display the UI in wrong colors and incorrectly and no reset helped it

[reef tundra]

Just looked at the icons and suddenly saw the icon changing.

Linux has to do this to me.

[empty wren]

I am curious

Do you have a different DNS than the stock one windows has for you

I had some network fall part issues due to that a few times

[reef tundra]

Device manager reported with the red cross, so unlikely

[empty wren]

Oh

[young pecan]

I'm inclined to believe that time was probably Windows getting confused and/or shitty driver.

That or an old driver.

User fuckup isn't out of the question.

But it's not unheard of for Windows to just kill old drivers in some super rare circumstances.

[astral haven]

Anything relating to VPN is gonna be on the user

[reef tundra]

Which is odd. As it didnt have any vpn software on it, and even then it wouldnt even register if it was. Somehow that was showing it. Maybe driver level.

Any case, I have more confidence in linux not crashing than windows.

[young pecan]

Kinda dependent on the user being able to not fuck up, though.

Anything is perfect if it's made perfectly and the US doesn't misstep.

But Linux is FAR from perfect, so it's the same situation.

[reef tundra]

Remember the good old days of hunting down random ddl to fix the cracked games and being able to run it.

Kids these days dont know about having to figure out what download was the actual one.

[young pecan]

He says, assuming kids these days are able to navigate google to locate the mega link in the first place.

[vagrant pagoda]

never had to do that, im old enough that i always used usenet

[empty wren]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement proves you right

[reef tundra]

Literacy is for n3rds! 1337 h4x0r!

[empty wren]

Are you using the QW34TY layout

[reef tundra]

Does it mean I need to turn the com-pu-tar on? huh?

[empty wren]

Oops

[empty wren]

Sir have you tried dropping it

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-acceptable-alright-okay-nod-gif-10653491

[empty wren]

end call

[reef tundra]

420

Sir, you need to turn your display on. thats why its broken

[empty wren]

XD

[young pecan]

I fuck with you not I had one of those.

Plugged in and all.

I got a shocked "iT DoEsNT TurN oN oUt oF ThE StoRe??"

Bruh.

[empty wren]

https://c.tenor.com/XUMkD45SNpQAAAAM/implosion-breaking-reality.gif

[empty wren]

When I got a new mouse I tried using and I thought it was broken despite plugging it in getting it recognized

Turns out there was a clear sticker on the bottom

[young pecan]

Idk what it is about PCs, but people seem to assume they're fuckin' magic or something.

[ashen spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-my-computer-drag-recycle-bin-disappear-gif-9752942

[reef tundra]

One sysadmin had to deal with some idiots that wanted the new model laptop and deciding to burn the thing. Burnmarks and all. Thing is that they were those rugged models so other than that they worked fine and got to deal with it

He could clearly see it was put on a gas oven

[young pecan]

Laptop: "Parry this you filthy casual"

[empty wren]

Yeah some people get really mad and think it broken

When they probably are the ones to buy powerful phones to view Instagram

[reef tundra]

How would one think up to burn the thing but not to realise burn marks are not common in non-burn situations

[empty wren]

XD

[reef tundra]

Like dunk it in water

[young pecan]

[empty wren]

A moronic criminal

[young pecan]

I finally have my mining rig working again.

A NIC died yesterday.

Replacement arrived. >:D

Along with 6 more replacements at that. Quite pog.

[reef tundra]

NI||C|| died

[warped dove]

Holy shit that's uhhhh
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/steam-nvidia-sold-11-geforce-rtx-3000-for-every-radeon-rx-6000-that-amd-sold.html

AMD might have the last laugh if they can absolutely blast 6600 XT off the shelves

[astral haven]

I mean

They will all sell

[crisp granite]

anything they make, they will sell

because this market is that fucked

[astral haven]

But that's not enough

[crisp granite]

they can't even keep cards on shelves for more than a week at a price actually worth paying

[astral haven]

Amd just doesn't have the wafers from tsmc to keep everyone happy

And Samsung is happy to give Nvidia as much 8nm as they want

[crimson wigeon]

It's right there in the name

[old marlin]

Afaik powercolor cards are foxcon made

[chrome estuary]

The fuck is that

2TB NVMe?

[astral haven]

Welcome to gen 4 or gen 3 raid

[shadow minnow]

Gen 4

Was bit better before but downloading stuff atm

[shadow minnow]

My iGPU is now running above boost clock of 3080

[old marlin]

therefore must be faster

[vagrant pagoda]

But what is the latency like?

[shadow minnow]

This b die is cursed. 4300 instead of 4266 MHz, which is XMP profile? Won’t boot.

[shadow minnow]

No idea tbh.

[vagrant pagoda]

Or is just single drive?

Xmp profiles are generally wack

I have a 980 pro, I love it

[hearty lake]

Does onyone of you know how u can create custom Display EDID .bin files on windows?

sorry for throwing in someing offtopic like this

I have a capture card with HDMI 2.0 but it has no preset EDID for 1080p240 but an option to select a custom EDID bin file but they nowhere mention how to create one. its amazing how user friendly this is 😅

[vagrant pagoda]

Dosent edid-decode run in mingw

[hearty lake]

i have no idea what mingw is even after google it i dont see the connection to EDID modes 😅

[shadow minnow]

Yes

[hearty lake]

oh wait its about compiling them to a .bin file or something?

[vagrant pagoda]

Mingw let's you use software written in gcc for Linux, compile and run on windows

edid-decode decodes edid information

[reef tundra]

Clangd chilling in the back

[hearty lake]

i think i just found a solution / a working editor for windows so ill try that first so i maybe dont need to make some weird workarounds 🙂
https://www.analogway.com/emea/products/software-tools/aw-edid-editor/

nevermind

[vagrant pagoda]

Try Custom Resolution Utility

[old marlin]

are laptops grounded over the 2 pin DC charging connectors?

cause I am sure this is not supposed to happen if it was grounded correctly

unsure if it is the keyboard or the laptop that is the problem though

[hearty lake]

ok, looks like i can export it from there and import it but then its always fixed on 60hz...

i dont get it...

[reef tundra]

They shouldnt be, you can connect then to the primary side of the transformer. Problematic to connect ground to secondary side

[old marlin]

I can just plug it in a dekstop

also happens on a desktop

[reef tundra]

Often improper earthing. Could also be related to capacitors and it forming with the finger

[old marlin]

oh I can just hold the keyboard

and slide my foot across the floor

to turn the LEDs off

[reef tundra]

Thats triboelectric effect in action

[shadow minnow]

Since iGPU is on the same node as cpu, should there be any differences in safe voltages, or can I rely on 1.3v being relatively safe for iGPU?

[reef tundra]

🤔 Can you rely on the replies to be relatively correct assessing whether its relatively safe to use some voltage for unspecified iGPU of unspecified CPU?

[shadow minnow]

No, but they may be, since it may be related since it’s on the same node using similar transistors so I don’t think electrical properties would be that different. But not sure.

This ram is so cursed. Can do 4266 at 1.4v. 4300? Not even 1.45

[reef tundra]

Likely made out of the same wafer. Cheaper than merging two production lines into one.

[shadow minnow]

So it should be relatively safe? If not it’s also not instant not working but slow degradation so if clocks become more stable I just under clock it and go back to old voltage I guess

[shadow minnow]

Safe boot time again

Hmm I guess just the XMP presets were cursed

Setting the same base timings and no issue with 4400 mhz

Pc says no to 4533

Looks like this is not the best bin. Sure, can do spec, but that’s about it.

But maybe not, looks like IO or SA may have been the voltages that are too low and 4500mhz may work at 1.45v

Not even 4600 at 1.5

[ashen spindle]

you know you need to adjust secondaries and such if you change frequency? also, running igpu obviously places strain on the cpu which might make the memory controller run worse, then are you running it in gear 1 or gear 2?

[shadow minnow]

Gear 2, gear 1 has its limit around 3800 MHz or so. Left secondaries to auto for now since I didn’t want to waste lot of time. But auto secondaries may be huge issue, since if they are as low as main latencies than that’s lot lower than XMP profile. But then there is the fact that with XMP profile I could not get even 4400 at 1.45v

[ashen spindle]

xmp is not working?

is the memory on the QVL list of the board?

[shadow minnow]

It is

XMP is 4266 1.4v

But also, noticed now, as if VCORE was using the value set by mobo and ignoring my value. Since it’s always around 1.43v

[ashen spindle]

eXtreme Memory Profile is just that, a profile of settings, if you change anything it's not xmp anymore so that means nothing

so if xmp is 4266, 4400 might not work at all unless you change all settings that xmp touched or more

[shadow minnow]

Sure, just expected that 0.05 v increase would be enough to make it work.

But also, strange thing is that mobo has default iGPU voltage 1.2, while some say it’s 1v, however limit is at 1.3v. 1.3 v however allows 200 MHz

Which program is able to change memory timings in windows (not in bios)?

[shadow minnow]

XMP profile seems to only be changing standard timings

[ashen spindle]

..yes it's a table of settings the board reads from the stick and sets those values

it's just a pre tested set of timings

[halcyon moss]

yay bluetooth ears work properly in newer ubuntu

[wheat plume]

Odd
Never had issues with bt earphones

But fair enough

I really like the new installer
The one written in Flutter

[halcyon moss]

True wireless earbuds didn't work properly on a few versions ago. You couldn't pair them, and update to the Bluetooth stack was needed.

[shadow minnow]

Even when safe booting (default settings) windows sometimes does not load correctly

[ashen spindle]

and now another day where you used more safe boots than I did in my life

[wheat plume]

Yeah...

[halcyon moss]

its been years since i've safe booted

probably when i build my pc to mess with drivers

[ashen spindle]

(including when I OC'd, if you don't OC that isn't really a valid comparison)

[reef tundra]

It usually isnt good news if you need to safe boot.

[shadow minnow]

Used it like 30 times today

[shadow minnow]

Kinda expected when pushing OC to limits. Also since I am not 100% sure about iGPU voltages… for just downloading stuff I rather safe boot to windows

[ashen spindle]

jesus

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-alder-lake-atx12v-peak-current-recommendations-are-higher-than-rocket-lakes

[crimson wigeon]

More power used means it's more powerful right?

[ashen spindle]

more powerful means more current and current is closer to future than the past so it's the future of hardware!

[shadow minnow]

Since I can’t use 27” monitor I am using my pc case as a desk for kb and mouse

It looks really bad with mouse space but it isn’t that bad since I have 3800 DPI

[old marlin]

3800

[shadow minnow]

Perfect DPI for 27” screen imo

[ashen spindle]

normally I'd disagree

but for bios it's probably fine as it halfes your dpi or mor

[old marlin]

27" does not change anything to the amount of pixels

[shadow minnow]

Idk, bios seems to have the same dpi to me

[old marlin]

which is what matters for dpi

[shadow minnow]

It also matters though. Since there is also different distance someone sits from screen based on size. Like, on laptop I used to use 6400 DPI, even though it was lower res

[old marlin]

wat

you are aware that no matter the size the cursor speeds stays the same

[reef tundra]

Remember that software has no real understanding of the real world. We have to tell how and what it is.

[old marlin]

per pixel

[shadow minnow]

Did I just beat best score with intel UHD 750?

[halcyon moss]

well time to run cyberpunk on ytour IGPU

[shadow minnow]

Gotta get to 1000 first Already got 974

[halcyon moss]

honestly, i think it'd run quite a lot of games just fine

[ashen spindle]

define fine

[reef tundra]

Existing

[shadow minnow]

Well not sure. Sure, games like turmoil and Minecraft will run fine, but even cities skylines were kinda issue. Even though it could be better at lower details

[shadow minnow]

One person with 11700k though has better result with same GPU, gotta fix

[halcyon moss]

well yeah dont run it at high

[halcyon moss]

low to medium.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/heat-computer-cooking-with-style-wtf-computer-chip-gif-17012327

[shadow minnow]

Turmoil menu could run at like 800 fps. Also makes me wonder if mc physics want cpu or GPU power, and what would blowing up few tnts do

But since wallpaper engine can make this pc buggy…

Tbh wallpaper engine must be pretty badly written if it’s so bad.

[reef tundra]

Thats odd, more software means more work to be computed... 😳 how dare it

[shadow minnow]

981 smh, so close to what I needed

[halcyon moss]

minecraft is purely cpu limited

Single thread cpu limited even

[shadow minnow]

My cpu score atm is really high but GPU lacking

How ? Also 5000mhz under 60c strange.

[shadow minnow]

But also still can’t match the single core of back then with air cooler no idea why

Why does windows refuse to remember that Inwant it to show me temperature in C

[shadow minnow]

998, so close to 1000 score

Second attempt though, crashed once

Also 5200 MHz crashes cinebench but works with 3dmark

[shadow minnow]

No idea how do I find out which of the 20 timings I have changed cause the crash too.

[empty wren]

Yes, the owner of the phone has no say since apple does not trust them lol

[empty wren]

Every heard integrated gpu, they are alright to use for Ultrabooks but even now those are getting a 50 GTX series gpu

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, from details it’s something completely else. Scanning only goes on inside the phone, same way as when you take any photo and it gets sorted based on its content…
And it will only report if it finds same photos as ones find on internet containing CSAM. It’s also what many photo services already do. Also only iCloud photos and in USA.
But yeah, even though I used to watch FPT, almost every video is clickbait.

[empty wren]

The scanning part is clickbait maybe in this case

Since apple is for privacy blah blah blah

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, it’s just on device, and also only From database of National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

[empty wren]

Oh nice it can report someone offline xD

[empty wren]

If this manages to find the lost children then great

[shadow minnow]

Technically even if not that likely it could. If someone took some photo of the child on phone with iCloud and then posted it online, it actually may.

[empty wren]

I do kinda why it can fail though since some children may have a likeliness and the algorithm probably will have no idea about that

[reef tundra]

Keep in mind that the government is supposed to have the burden of proof.

[shadow minnow]

From what I have heard it may have to be the exact same image, possibly found out by metadata, but not sure.

[empty wren]

Yep

[empty wren]

Wow copy paste

[shadow minnow]

1013, did it Pog.

[shadow minnow]

What?

[empty wren]

If it is the same

The odds are even more slim

[shadow minnow]

The odds of finding source however could be higher, since person who posted it will have the same picture

[halcyon moss]

i dont like the scanning part.. not one bit. and ill use the slippery slope argument

[ashen spindle]

yeah the scanning is a clear bad idea and anything positive from it is a farce to act like it's decent, there is no actual solid argument that would support it

but hey, gotta catch up to google's scanning of data somehow I guess, being consumer friendly isn't making money

[shadow minnow]

Tbh thought the same, but considering what it may bring and since it’s only on device kinda get it.

[empty wren]

I would not really call apple consumer friendly but alright

[shadow minnow]

It’s not scanning as much as most articles make it out to be.

[ashen spindle]

that's what I mean, consumer friendly would mean not scanning consumer data

[empty wren]

Ah okay xD

[reef tundra]

The only ones that would benefit in the situation is some authoritarian government seeking to silence some "facts"

[ashen spindle]

and apple realized they missed out on money so now they do it more

[shadow minnow]

I mean, they are kinda trying to look like consumer friendly when it comes to privacy.

[empty wren]

Well were

[shadow minnow]

Still are

[ashen spindle]

not really, they are acting the way to profit the most for themselves, if it looks like consumer benefit from it, it's a happy accident

[shadow minnow]

Gotta find tweet that explained how this works. I mean, it’s kinda not the best.

[empty wren]

Just compare wooting to apple bexy,

[shadow minnow]

I mean, sure, but they are preventing many things like for customers and for privacy, especially in apple events.

[ashen spindle]

as I said, anything that benefits the consumer is due to it being better for apple to hoard the data instead of making it public, now they can use it

that is no different from google gathering it all, just evil corporation X and not Y handling it

[reef tundra]

Company works for the benefit of its shareholders. 🤷 they are legally required to

[ashen spindle]

yup, share holder profits > Uyghurs lives in case of apple

[young pecan]

I mean fuck, just look at ActiBlizz atm to see where ignoring that gets you.

[shadow minnow]

Why my single core cb20 score lower than when no oc and aircooler. Also ram running at 4400 when it should 4500

[astral haven]

Cause you can't allcore clock as high as stock boost

[shadow minnow]

True, but the difference is very small. 200 MHz. And point difference is 40, despite enabled xmp with pretty tight timings for 4400mhz

[astral haven]

Oh
40 points is within cinebench error unless you are running realtime

[ashen spindle]

does cb even care about memory?

[astral haven]

Not really

[ashen spindle]

yeah, so fixed allcore oc just hurts single core boost options there

[shadow minnow]

Still strange, 630 instead of 670. At least my 3dmark scores are pretty good. But 3d mark is also less cpu intensive, can run 5200 MHz, while cinebench would crash.
Also gotta set some things higher cause crashes but idk which, since I changed most at once since time. Surprised I could finish 3d mark tbh

Does this look relatively on for daily use?

[ashen spindle]

run something heavier like linpack for stability

[astral haven]

And what is your actual voltage

[shadow minnow]

Arround this, just the cpu one is on the right and not what I set for some reason. At least I hope so, didn’t find program that can report VAXG

[astral haven]

Screenshot your motherboard section on hwinfo

But yea 1.375v is deadly at 300 amps

So no that's not daily ready if it's actually 1.375 under load

[shadow minnow]

It’s 1.428v for some reason. But usually does not go past 150 amps.

[astral haven]

It's not

1.42v sounds like superio

[shadow minnow]

It is, hwinfo reports vcore as 1.42-3 too, same with hemonitor and cpu a

[astral haven]

Under what

Also stop pinging

[shadow minnow]

Vcore

[astral haven]

🤦‍♂️ under what heading

You need to send an image

Vcore out and die sense are very different

And "vcore" is sometimes vcore out

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SElZABp5M3U

[shadow minnow]

This iGPU Is so much worse compared to MacBook Pro 2017’s GPU

[ashen spindle]

real gpu is better than igpu? shocking

[empty wren]

[reef tundra]

All what a iGPU is designed to do is give an image Dont need much to play a desktop at a framerate

[vagrant pagoda]

"we had to get special permission from he developer to install csgo"

[reef patrol]

Of course. Gotta make sure your own titles look their best. 😄

Especially if this isn't a final retail model, and they're still pushing out optimisation.

[pale sigil]

Nice

[reef tundra]

VW mode

[pale sigil]

I'll wafch the ltt video later

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/uzzi38/status/1423696744165126147

uzzi38 (@uzzi38)

Thank you Linus for the beautiful comparison.

Same scene, same settings. Aya Neo vs Steam Deck - +50% performance in Doom Eternal https://t.co/zjaCG0EJzp

Twitter · Aug 6, 2021, 5:25 PM

rdna2 powerr

[vagrant pagoda]

he literaly stated in the video its 50% faster....

[ashen spindle]

well I didn't watch it 😛

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

that jab was more at the person on twitter than you though

like ohhh look i found this hidden info

like seconds after he said the same thing

[ashen spindle]

that's not at all how I read the tweet but w/e

[reef tundra]

I feel the energy of the post aliexpress listing is a vibe

[ashen spindle]

sounded more like praise to linus for making an apparently good comparison

[vagrant pagoda]

nice it will do 4k60 over displayport

[timid chasm]

I mean the desktop sure

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean that isnt a given for handhelds

[timid chasm]

yeah but it feels useless for something focused around steam that won't do 1080 60 for games

[vagrant pagoda]

moives

doing non game things

with the dock hooked to your tv

you can use it as a media device

and

[empty wren]

Would it be real 4k or upscaling?

[vagrant pagoda]

it dose 4k60p native over dp

[reef tundra]

Portable hentai machine

[vagrant pagoda]

and will extend display

so you could game on the monitor

and use the deck screen as like chat or something

[timid chasm]

I already have a surface for a portable hentai machine no need for another lol

[vagrant pagoda]

idk if you are going to be able to stream on it

[reef tundra]

But were you able to play two?

[timid chasm]

No way that thing streams well

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

maybe

with hardware encode

720p

[reef tundra]

If you get two machines double the power

[vagrant pagoda]

what sucks

is amds hardencoder

lol

[reef tundra]

vacuumcleaner

[timid chasm]

Not like it would be useful to try and use the igpu to stream if you're gaming and cpu streaming is way inferior than something like nvenc

[empty wren]

Just do not give it to Dewy or Dewfy

[timid chasm]

no idea if AMD ever made any progress on theirs

[vagrant pagoda]

quicksync and nvenc hard true hardware encoders

[reef tundra]

They will need surgery again then 😳

[vagrant pagoda]

amds is a softencoder that uses the gpu

cpu streaming is good for quality

[timid chasm]

so intel and nvidia

[vagrant pagoda]

nvenc is better than quicksync

[timid chasm]

which one of those does the steamdeck use

[vagrant pagoda]

but real h264 software encoding is better

steamdeck is AMD

[astral haven]

Wut

[vagrant pagoda]

idk what amds is called

[ashen spindle]

AMF isn't horrible but it just isn't the most ideal results at bitrates and such that people play at

[vagrant pagoda]

because its so shit

[timid chasm]

so neither quicksync or nvenc

[astral haven]

It comes in 4th out of 3 vendors
It's pretty bad

[vagrant pagoda]

amds encoder will choke if the gpu is fully loaded

[reef tundra]

Big display to show them puxels

[vagrant pagoda]

so its useless on the deck really

[reef tundra]

Handheld is not the place to be for performance.

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ nvidia did better, we criticize amd out of a want of improvement

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

nvenc is amazing really

but

quicksync is basicly free

[astral haven]

welll

[vagrant pagoda]

amd needs a shitty igpu

for all cpus

[astral haven]

quicksync costs die space

[vagrant pagoda]

and ungimmped

[astral haven]

and non f cpus are like $20 more

so it is a $20 add

where its given on nvidia

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but thats the WHOLE igpu

not just quicksync

[reef tundra]

Tends to be not economical to take parts out of them

[astral haven]

quicksync needs many parts of the igp phy

[vagrant pagoda]

nvenc is gipped on consumer gpus

dosent have vifo

intel dosent gimp the igpu at all

[astral haven]

it tends to be very economical to cut off parts that arent functioning instead of yeeting the entire chip lmao

[ashen spindle]

well with zen4 we're supposed to get igpu on mainstream parts so lets hope the people who did FSR can make some more amd gpu software improvements

[astral haven]

nvidia doesnt do vfio for consumer gpus at all...

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

and you get like 2 streams for nvenc

which you can unlock with a software hack

[astral haven]

ye

[reef patrol]

Oof... the Steamdeck weighs twice as much as a switch. That's going to hurt long gaming sessions 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

which means its purely there money

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but the grip is so much better

[astral haven]

switch isnt very comfortable to hold to begin with

[astral haven]

what money?

[vagrant pagoda]

to sell quadros

[astral haven]

thing is
the folks who need more than 2 streams are generally doing something beyond gaming and streaming

and uh

if you are doing more, you are gonna be wanting the support nvidia provides for their quadro customers

[pale sigil]

Them thermals...

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

you dont need any support

like with plex

works 100% fine with the unlocked driver

[reef tundra]

Quadros dont need more motivation to sell for their target audience nobody will know about gpus in finance

[astral haven]

running a server isnt supposed to be done on a consumer gpu...

and yes
it works
nvidia could easily have made it not work, but they decided to unlock it from a few months ago and forwards

[vagrant pagoda]

and its not just quadros as a fix

as the p600 i use have a 3 limit

but have no issues doing 10+ streams with unlocked drivers

[astral haven]

btw the limit is 3 before unlock

[vagrant pagoda]

it used to be 2

nvidia increased it with driver

[astral haven]

yup

[reef tundra]

It could have been 1

[astral haven]

same driver that introduced the unlockability

nah

[vagrant pagoda]

well

[astral haven]

nvidia share needs 2

[vagrant pagoda]

no

there was unlocked drivers before that

but only for some cards

[astral haven]

if you activate all the features of nvidia share it uses up 2 streams

[vagrant pagoda]

they were tricking the driver to think it was a higher end quadro

[astral haven]

yea

[vagrant pagoda]

which is what i did with my p600s

[astral haven]

the new one is just an ini tweak iirc

[vagrant pagoda]

then after they bummped it for 3

they managed to unlock for all gpus

[astral haven]

either way you are getting a feature that is not applicable to any application that would be considered consumer, nvidia allowing it in any way on consumer cards isnt something that should be criticized

especially when bugs appear when you run too many streams at full resolution

the quadros have official limits for a reason...

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean you get oom if the software you are using is shit

[astral haven]

oom?

[vagrant pagoda]

out of memory

[reef tundra]

Object oriented moo

[astral haven]

im talking about the quality of the streams going to complete shit

think it was 13 1080p60 streams per nvec phy on pascal

[vagrant pagoda]

that is what happens with nvenc runs out of memory

[astral haven]

for h264

oh

really?

i guess i wasnt paying close attention to memory usage

[vagrant pagoda]

what software were you using?>

nvenc has a reported useage

and plex wont exceed it.

but it will exceed vram

why they dont check for it i dont know

[astral haven]

yea
nvenc hit 100% and when i enabled 14 streams the quality jumped off a cliff

ffmpeg i think?

it was a testing script i found online

[vagrant pagoda]

ah yeah

[reef tundra]

Eventually any hardware will buckle if you demand enough from it

[vagrant pagoda]

with plex it will fallover to cpu automaticly is nvenc gets overlaoded

but

for somereason if you go over vram, then it will just hang

[astral haven]

yea i guess i wasnt paying attention to vram

and uh

[vagrant pagoda]

lots of cards will hit memory before running out of nvex

[astral haven]

my new gpu aint running out of vram any time soon

[reef tundra]

GPUs tend to be very wacky when it has to go out of memory.

[vagrant pagoda]

especially if you are encoding raw

[astral haven]

Yea I was doing boring streams just for raspi display use
Nothing high bandwidth

Ooh I should mess with that now that I have these 100g nics

[shadow minnow]

Why does my fuel order in desktop keep changing

Smh

Also temperature sometimes rolls back to F from C

[astral haven]

Hwinfo64 is your friend

[reef tundra]

Because you are touching thing you have been told to not touch. and actions have consequences. Wise sammy told me

[shadow minnow]

Windows is so dumb. Every time it turns on order is different

What’s wrong with this is. Literally can’t set normal DD/MM/YYYY format

[reef patrol]

Uh yes you can? What are you on about?

[shadow minnow]

First day of a week preset Sunday too

[reef patrol]

Oh look.

[reef tundra]

Sounds like you are clearing the cmos memory?

[reef patrol]

Oh look 2x

[shadow minnow]

Strange, does not show me that option, maybe because I have sth else as region

[reef patrol]

No. This has been standard in Windows for two decades or so xD

[shadow minnow]

Okay I may be blind but

Only form in this format is with month written, which I don’t want

[reef patrol]

Change your region standards my dude xD

[shadow minnow]

Why does this depend on region smh, why can’t you set up whatever

[reef patrol]

You CAN

[ashen spindle]

there is almost nothing you cant do on windows compared to mac

its just in a different way

just like you wouldn't know where to search on mac if you only used windows

[reef patrol]

The only legitimate criticism you could make here is that Microsoft still haven't gotten their asses in gear and put ALL of the control panels into the new UI.

[ashen spindle]

doesnt make either one worse just different so you need to figure out what works how

[reef patrol]

Now get that damn motherboard RMA'ed and fix that CMOS issue already xD

[shadow minnow]

This is dumb. Can’t set it up because of regional settings. Sure, can change that, but no idea for what.

[reef patrol]

You want to make a custom region - That takes more settings my dude.

You're coming from Apple of all things, where asking to do stuff like this isn't even possible most of the time 😄

"You want to do thing? Oh no no. We don't want you to. That's dangerous"

[shadow minnow]

But also idk what’s going on with one thing. I run OCCT to test memory stability and everything is okay and pc crashes only after I turn it off.

[ashen spindle]

because OCCT is not a good stability check

for memory get linpack xtreme or similar

[shadow minnow]

Again desktop icons are not sorted how they should. Smh.

Tbh don’t get what’s the issue. Stress testing cpu and GPU to quite a big extend unable to crash. So I would think it’s ram. But I have set ram back to very neutral settings because of that, and also there are no screen artifacts as with normal ram crashes. Pc just completely freezes. So idk what’s the issue. Most likely still ram

[ashen spindle]

what are you using to stress test

[timid chasm]

and have you tried just 1 stick of ram?

[shadow minnow]

Different things, atm texting if it could be cpu so after some other stuff running prime 95

Also running occt alongside to be sure I keep the cpu busy

[ashen spindle]

"different things" and "other stuff" isn't really helpful when you are asking for info

[shadow minnow]

Maybe it’s that I have set different clocks for when only limited number of cores boosts. Gotta try.

Atm I have
Cores-ghz
1-5.4
2-5.3
3-5.2
4-5.1

And then it continues with 5.1

[timid chasm]

do you have ryzen and have you messed with the curve optimizer?

[shadow minnow]

Nope, i9 11900k and iGPU

Now that I think of it, with current settings, as if pc crashed when ram suddenly goes from full to lot of free space. What could be causing this?

[timid chasm]

just use 1 stick and see if it's ram. If it does it then swap to another stick. Do this for however many sticks you got

[ashen spindle]

no just don't OC while running on iGPU..

if youe xpect stability that is

[shadow minnow]

I think it’s just one of the timings I have changed, will try swapping only if needed, Which could it be?
Gotta find more details about some secondaries.

[shadow minnow]

Not sure, just ran cpu at 100% usage for few minutes with both prime and occt, also utilizing avx stuff, and no crashing

[timid chasm]

well typically you only change 1 thing at a time until you know it's stable. That way the next time you change something the stability is likely to be linked to that one thing

[shadow minnow]

Or maybe it’s actually the ring. Could not get it above 47 with any voltage so maybe 46 is causing issues with now but lower voltage.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah. Thing is there was so many settings that I really didn’t have time to do that. Well Over 30. And apparently it should be possible to change timings while ram is running but no idea how. Just found option to enable this in BIOS.

[timid chasm]

well if you don't have time to do that then you probably shouldn't be changing all of them tbh

OCing is a fucking hassle and not worth it most of the time, imo

[shadow minnow]

Like I do have time, just was trying to get no matter how stable to achieve one thing. That I managed to. Thing is, 3d mark required lot less for stability. I could run all cores at 5.2 for example. Now just did not want to have to reverse all the settings. And also hate how every time my desktop icons get messed up

[ashen spindle]

idk if I'd count 3dmark as stresstest

linpack, intel burn test, super pi and such is more something what I'd use for that

[shadow minnow]

Actually may have been ring causing instability. Just thrown everything at pc at once after decreasing and no crash. Prime 95, OCCT mem, Cine 23 and wallpaper engine at 60fps at once

[reef tundra]

Maybe you wont turn your lada into a Western spy machine

😳

[shadow minnow]

Even at increased voltage, it does not want to cooperate for some reason.

[reef tundra]

So much work, so little gain

[wheat plume]

:') Oh LOL

[crimson wigeon]

[back to the date format thing] look, you can even use custom formats! Go crazy!

[shadow minnow]

Linpack is hot. Like very hot. Like max temps sometimes 98 c

[crimson wigeon]

However the complaints are valid about some other systems and softwares that do the ridiculously stupid thing of tying these formats and whatnot to language

Discord and the like do this shit

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle

What does this say

[ashen spindle]

you cant get SSL certs atm due to maintenance

[pale sigil]

i broke me server

xD

[crisp granite]

that was my job

[shadow minnow]

Found more reliable way to test stability than linpack, at least crashes when linpack is not able to find issues - run cine wallpaper prime and occt mem at once

[pale sigil]

i mean me linux server

[shadow minnow]

[crimson wigeon]

Where's the broken bit?

[ashen spindle]

I mean it doesnt effect you in any way unless your SSL cert ran out

and even then just make one instead of buying one till the service is up again

[pale sigil]

i was wondering if there was an issue

[crimson wigeon]

Other than you having way more locales enabled than needed

[ashen spindle]

ah

[pale sigil]

as i couldn't access my server

i broke open ssh somehow

[shadow minnow]

Strange, it seems like occt does not like cine r23. If I try to launch one while the other is running + prime is running, it crashes. However if I first launch all of them and even run all benchmarks at once it lasts longer

[crimson wigeon]

Time to fallback to telnet

[pale sigil]

now im using kvm

[shadow minnow]

Any way to find out details about errors from OCCT?

[ashen spindle]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/stress-torture-cpu-total-system-rating/ read this

[pale sigil]

hmm

ffs

a lot has deleted

hmm

i think there is an issue their side

because i cant even ping the server

[shadow minnow]

Finally no errors. Time to decrease some timings again

[ashen spindle]

my servers runs with no issues

and I can ping it

[shadow minnow]

Too soon, just found error smh. Why can’t it just be stable.

and then 8 errors at once, how

But it is not crashing so better than last time

Oh, said that too soon, nvm

[pale sigil]

hmm

yes

i cant even wget

it seems

[ashen spindle]

makure sure you dont do my mistake

and run an LTS version so long it gets dropped from extended cycle

so I cant get any packages or anything

[pale sigil]

i cant get into it or out of it

😒

its literally not working

i can only use kmv

[ashen spindle]

kmv?

[pale sigil]

kvm

[ashen spindle]

I assume you dont mean the hardware kvm lol

[pale sigil]

ye

[ashen spindle]

scp not working?

[pale sigil]

nothing, i cant even ping the server

[ashen spindle]

.. I mean the website

[pale sigil]

website is working but its acting funky

sometimes it kicks me out

saying peration failed

[ashen spindle]

[reef patrol]

Bro do you even perate.

[ashen spindle]

mansen go and perate the rest of 14, you're still not murdering orphans 😛

[pale sigil]

idk how id save the data

sinc ei cant access it

[reef patrol]

Working as fast as I can. Still trying to escape this LIGHT FILLED fantasy land I fucking hate so much 😄

I just want to go back and finish the war with the empire. SMH

Worst cliffhanger. I don't want to play with faeries or play indiana jones. Or face a copy paste of what I just fought for an entire expansion. Give me some goddamned resolution.

[ashen spindle]

well if the scp ain't working maybe send them an email

[reef patrol]

old man ranting

[ashen spindle]

they do respond on english so dw about that

[pale sigil]

scp is working

just funky

[ashen spindle]

well, not really working then 😛

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

it just cant reach

outside the network

[reef patrol]

DMZ STRICT NAT INTENSIFIES PROXY DISABLED 9000 REDIRECTS

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pupper-dog-hacker-computer-keyboard-gif-17954501

[pale sigil]

?

[ashen spindle]

uhh that looks like it might be a DNS issue if it cant resolve the links

[pale sigil]

ye

[reef patrol]

It's 1AM. Best you're getting from me is terrible shitposting.

[pale sigil]

i literally cant fix anything

do you think its a netcup issue

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah see if you can ping some rando IP address

[ashen spindle]

check what ip google uses and ping that from the server then

[crimson wigeon]

1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 or some other that you prefer should do fine

[ashen spindle]

oh true, I keep forgetting pinging DNS server is quite valid lol

[crimson wigeon]

So yeah something's wrong with yer network

[pale sigil]

OHHH

Lol

nameserver is local ip

[astral haven]

8.8.8.8 :P

[crimson wigeon]

It's completely normal to have resolv.conf point to localhost

[pale sigil]

hmm

[ashen spindle]

it cant be nameserver if pinging a direct ip is not working

[pale sigil]

then what should i do

[crimson wigeon]

Check your network configuration , e.g. does the output of ip addr look sane

[crimson wigeon]

Of course you're gonna have to figure out the proper configuration yourself since I don't know how your server is supposed to be networked

[pale sigil]

ill try something

F

[crimson wigeon]

Perhaps you can get lucky and do something like dhcpcd eth0 to get it going

[pale sigil]

booted into rescue mode

[timid chasm]

did you get rescued?

[pale sigil]

conenction refused

thats a good sign

xD

[crimson wigeon]

kekw

[pale sigil]

rn i just want my data

xD

more than anything

fuck it

ill just sort it out tomoz

F to the bot

for now

[ashen spindle]

are you telling me you didn't put the bot on a private github and just your servers

[pale sigil]

bot etc yes

but i cant run it

i mean

[ashen spindle]

ah

[reef tundra]

lol

[crimson wigeon]

why not

[pale sigil]

because my server wont communicate out?

[reef tundra]

Local hosting for debug?

[pale sigil]

i aint local hosting the wootbot

lol

[crimson wigeon]

Oh I was just thinking about running the bot locally temporarily

[pale sigil]

fuck no

[crimson wigeon]

It can't be that intensive

[pale sigil]

i just cba leaving my computer on

xD

[reef tundra]

Then that is the risks you take and have to sit with 🤷

[crimson wigeon]

Clearly you should do what cool people do and abuse GitHub actions for free hosting

[pale sigil]

hmm

i can change host name in the control panel

just gonna email

[reef tundra]

Just let other host the thing. There wont be any repercussions to that. Hosting is a scam by big tech(who are they) to drain your wallet to keep some file available.

[pale sigil]

i cba sorting out a host rn

id use Tonys server

if that was the case

[shadow minnow]

This pc is cursed. Sudden strange instability and can’t even run occt alone anymore, after previously being able to run occt prime cine at once

[reef tundra]

Wake up, sheeple 🐑

or you might miss the alarm

and be late to somewhere

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/fairy-oddparents-curse-dinkleburg-gif-5219283

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle this keeps randomly happening

[ashen spindle]

huh

[reef tundra]

It gets a request it cant operate on

[ashen spindle]

check CCP if there is a ticket or something for your account

[shadow minnow]

I am done with OCing for today, since atm for some reason not even stock non xmp ram makes it stable.

[pale sigil]

no tickets

i sent an email

worst case i just want me data

[reef tundra]

someone hide the [data expunged]. ccp is near

[pale sigil]

ill try get it via rescue mode

[reef tundra]

||Scp-████ is a ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ foundation staff ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ D-3819 ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ among us ████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ genitals were obliterated ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████||

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

my man

guide is in german

xD

it wont even let me take a snapshot

[wheat plume]

I'm going to try to be an iPhone user and not have the battery percentage on my status bar and see how it goes

So far
I hate it

[ashen spindle]

yea you go do that

meanwhile I'll have my % shown on my iphone

[wheat plume]

Cause you have one before the iPhone X

The ones with notches can't show it

Unless you jailbreak

[ashen spindle]

oh so I just keep it like I always did and dont actually use it

I knew it existed I just never activated it bc dont see the point

[wheat plume]

Huh?

[crisp granite]

well yes

but

warranty

[ashen spindle]

you can see how much you have even without the %

[crisp granite]

I'm like 90% sure jailbreaking disqualifies it

[wheat plume]

From the control center
I know

[ashen spindle]

no I mean by looking at the battery icon

yea you dont see the actual ammount but dont pretend like you know exactly how long 6% vs 7% last

[wheat plume]

Ok... So tell me
What's the percentage of mine in the screenshot?

Xd

Ok

[crisp granite]

43

[ashen spindle]

around 50

[wheat plume]

It does look neater
But imma go back to this

[ashen spindle]

ok

[wheat plume]

This is better actually .. oh

. . . .

WHAT

I hope that's click bait

[crisp granite]

xD

this is why I hate anything facebook touches

and avoid it

[wheat plume]

^^

[reef tundra]

end to end encryption 😮 im coomin

[wheat plume]

It says it does but it doesn't

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[crisp granite]

ffs, my brain thinks "es" as plural is french and revises to "s" because english when sometimes it's grammatically correct

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[reef tundra]

That is not facebook approved messaging

[wheat plume]

Imma keep using telegram