Sure, but 2 dimmers are usually only OC focused boards, which don’t sometimes have some normal features, and also are more expensive.
#🔌│tech
shadow minnow
astral haven
None of the others run 1900if without wheas
shadow minnow
Not sure. Gigabyte page does not say anything, but there is one pwm connector connected to sth on board going under vrm plate. Should be possible to disable, but may be too short to disconnect.
astral haven
Sure, but 2 dimmers are usually only OC focused boards, which don’t sometimes ha...
Z490 unify is the same price as b550...
And the z490i unify is a 2 dimmer
And also you don't need 2 dimmer on Intel since tabbed traces magic
It's just a nicety
There aren't any problems running 4400 on any z series 10th gen
shadow minnow
Wish z590 master had smd ram slots instead of useless amount of VRMs.
astral haven
Do not buy gigabyte for daily
shadow minnow
Do not buy gigabyte for daily
Why? Already did too 
astral haven
Oh
Welp you've already figured it out
But also booting is a pain
Hex values for random ram timings is also fun
shadow minnow
For me it was not an issue. Mobo or cpu dying day one however…
shadow minnow
Hex values for random ram timings is also fun
Did not have that issue
shadow minnow
Don’t think I managed to look into terts before it died 
ashen spindle
@reef patrol
chrome estuary
i'm still on 11.3, i've been too lazy to update. can't find a good way to update with screen closed or asleep and my internet slow
misty saffron
what are the odds of me being fucked over
$150 sounds way too cheap for a good 1tb ssd
but considering it’s a proprietary connector i guess it could be true..?
astral haven
$130 is the price of a 1tb nice SSD post chia
Pre chia it was $100/tb
vagrant pagoda
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001609017688.html
For a older macbook that isnt bad
might be recycled
astral haven
Alot of people unlock the 6900xts tho
And the power limit maximums are dangerous
But I really don't think it's power delivery I think it's transient thermals
astral haven
Bz is right Nvidia does have a history of that
Hmm
chrome estuary
I think that's what was spoken about earlier with at least the AMD cards. People disabling power limits
reef patrol
Supposed to - Which is why I find the lack of more concrete analysis frustrating.
If your CPU hits a panic temp, it throttles till it can't no more and then shuts down.
GPUs are supposed to follow this concept, and will throttle much earlier on a curve.
wheat plume
Idk why this reminds of the Poco f1's custom ROM community
A lot of custom ROM were found to be bragging about how their rom is the fastest at playing
Turns it it's because they had completely disabled thermal management and overclocked the GPU a little bit
Ending up cooking a lot of user's phones
reef tundra
There should also be hardware level thermal protection. Loads of ICs have a thermal shutoff circuit build in that just cuts the circuit when a critical threshold has been reached (typically around 150C). This prevents thermal runaway and setting itself on fire.
astral haven
If your CPU hits a panic temp, it throttles till it can't no more and then shuts...
True temps are hard
astral haven
There should also be hardware level thermal protection. Loads of ICs have a ther...
And again true temps are hard
reef patrol
Hard or not, if it doesn't shut down before it dies, the protection is useless.
astral haven
It's not like a CPU where you can even have a temperature sensor on every core
Much less on individual parts of a core
reef patrol
Then they need to set the threshold lower. Software should never be able to kill a graphics card, unless it is somehow purposely bypassing driver and kernel protections.
reef tundra
Physical phenomena based on temperature isn't. If the sensor hits certain criteria (like deforming due to thermal expansion differential, voltage measured across two different metals at one point).
astral haven
You could easily make a workload that specifically fries a single core
That one core would be drawing a watt of power and dead gpu
reef patrol
I disagree - or we'd see it occasionally as an attack vector.
astral haven
Why fry a gpu when you can instead mine on it
reef patrol
Because one removes competition without having the need for a supply chain.
astral haven
Smh
reef patrol
I don't buy it.
astral haven
Because one removes competition without having the need for a supply chain.
You don't believe this do you
reef tundra
Temperature sensors cost fuck all and are trivial to implement. The PT100 and PT1000 tables are easy to find on the internet
astral haven
Temperature sensors cost fuck all and are trivial to implement. The PT100 and PT...
Yes now get 10 thousand of them
reef tundra
You know by putting two differend metals together at one point you have a temperature sensor
astral haven
Smh the hard part is the amplification circuitry
reef tundra
op-amp and 3 resistors?
astral haven
Op amp
That's a physically large circuit in terms of die space
That's why GPUs only have 10s to a maximum of a hundred of them
reef tundra
astral haven
Largest number anyone has admitted was 64
Ok pincus stop trolling
Do you want to actually learn what's going on here or are you just gonna spout nonsense?
reef tundra
You claimed the op amp is physically large and I have provided with a schematic with a functional opamp do your amplifying with
old marlin
If your CPU hits a panic temp, it throttles till it can't no more and then shuts...
problem is that the gpus get hotter than even in synthetic benchmarks
idk wtf amazon games did to be able to achieve that
but yea normally they should just lower clocks until temps get normal again
but the protection seems to not have been made with the thermal output the cards are managing to pull off
other thing is that even with an open loop
the cards can get bricked
reef patrol
problem is that the gpus get hotter than even in synthetic benchmarks
I'm onboard with that. My logic is that the protections should kick in at that point. Otherwise it's kind of false trust and... Well anything can brick a card at that point due to bad code.
astral haven
You claimed the op amp is physically large and I have provided with a schematic ...
You provided a schematic proving my point...
old marlin
I would be interested in the temps of the open loops card
cause afaik atm we only know that they die
but not the temps
astral haven
Ain't sacrificing mine lmao
old marlin
do it
vrms overheating seems likely
well
as an error
not really with how the cards operate
reef patrol
If nothing else this has exploded into such a news story that nVidia, AMD and friends can't ignore it
old marlin
yup
ashen spindle
maybe they accidentally found an undocumented microcode instruction that breaks shit 
crimson wigeon
Somehow that wouldn't surprise me
astral haven
maybe they accidentally found an undocumented microcode instruction that breaks ...
Directx instruction I guess?
astral haven
I swear if it turns out that they mine crytpo on players computers
Crypto mining heavily stresses the whole GPU from top to bottom
old marlin
not necessarily
astral haven
Even if it somehow stressed ram more than mining, only 3070s and lower would be popcorning because g6x on 80 and above boosts
old marlin
they can a: limit the rate based on the gpu
b: use some more obsucre currency
or c: just do their own calculations on the cards for other stuff
amazon makes most of their money not in e-commerce but in computing services
astral haven
There are only a few algs used
You need to use some form of hashing alg, and there are very few which aren't broken
ashen spindle
Directx instruction I guess?
more of a unlikely random guess because I remembered the work people are doing on intel cpus to find undocumented instructions
astral haven
Ye
Thing is tho I heavily suspect this game is just stressing some part of the core extremely heavily
young pecan
Crypto mining heavily stresses the whole GPU from top to bottom
No.
Cryptonight-GPU, for example, stresses the core and basically doesn’t touch memory.
One can trivially easily run both it and a game at the same time.
astral haven
Cryptonight-GPU, for example, stresses the core and basically doesn’t touch memo...
That's not true
old marlin
thing is
they could just do any other calculation on there
with the amount of computing power they get it is essentially irrelevant how hard they kick each single gpus memory
since they not only get it for free
but also get paid for it
astral haven
The only alg that makes money is hashing
young pecan
That's not true
It is true. Tested on 1060, 2x 1080, 2x 1080Ti, 14x 3070, and 2x 3080, heavily hits core, doesn’t touch mem much.
Can confirm 1080(ti) and all 3000 series can run both Cryptodredge and games.
old marlin
The only alg that makes money is hashing
not true at the scale of amazon
they can basiaclly do any kind of algorythm
and benefit off of that
especially since they get paid for the computing power
wheat plume
The system tray and clock keep dissapearing on the task bar if I dont have task manager open
so I just keep it open on the second desktop
its annoying ;-;
reef tundra
Thats why you dont use one
ashen spindle
well they have to fund poor bezo's space trip somehow, maybe that's why they turned to distributed mining
astral haven
they can basiaclly do any kind of algorythm
[citation needed]
young pecan
How so? Basic logic.
If they can distribute compute they can, in theory, do whatever they want.
astral haven
It is true. Tested on 1060, 2x 1080, 2x 1080Ti, 14x 3070, and 2x 3080, heavily h...
It still was consuming a crazy amount of bandwdith
reef tundra
Doubt they wouldnt be able to sell computing power
old marlin
that they could do stupid stuff like optimizing algorythms
young pecan
It still was consuming a crazy amount of bandwdith
Not enough to impact anything other than 4k video native or something.
astral haven
You can't sell alrogothmic power from client computers
old marlin
they don't even have to sell it
reef tundra
You can
young pecan
You literally can and do.
astral haven
Not enough to impact anything other than 4k video native or something.
It was thrashing the imc...
old marlin
you can sell any kind of computing power
young pecan
That’s the entire purpose behind NiceHash.
reef tundra
Thats what cryptos do
young pecan
They sell compute from single computers.
astral haven
No that's hashing power
reef tundra
Fold@home project
astral haven
I mean non hashing algorithms which is what you are arguing
young pecan
Fold@home.
young pecan
Mmmm.
astral haven
That's also why it only works for very specific things and is intensely inefficient at it
reef tundra
AI is also hashing, everything is hashing now
young pecan
And uhh, Cam. CNGPU doesn’t stress the mem all that much.
There’s a great reason we underclock mem as hard as we can when using CNGPU.
astral haven
Isn't bottlenecked by and doesn't thrash are two entirely different statements
All the algorithms that are even remotely capable of using large enough amounts of power to popcorn GPUs use memory
That's the point of a gpu
High bandwidth
young pecan
Yes, but CNGPU doesn't actually need a lot of memory bandwidth.
That's the entire point of CNGPU, it's designed to work on low bandwidth devices.
Now if you wanna talk Ethash or something then you're entirely right, but different algos do different things.
ashen spindle
https://www.igorslab.de/en/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-vs-amazons-new-world-design-caused-evga-problem/ as expected, it seems to be the high uncapped menu fps to cause the generic shutdowns as they should, and the only bricking cards are evgas with a certain fan controller that is currently in the lab and they try to figure out why it's happening
zenith sonnet
idk wtf amazon games did to be able to achieve that
I have an idea...
Firmware that's specifically coded to recognise synthetic benchmarks and throttle accordingly
crimson wigeon
Y tho although that also wouldn't surprise
crimson wigeon
Why don't they just have a on by default 1k FPS cap or something pepega
ashen spindle
OW also has a dev team with experience and all that, amazon studios is a blank slate
reef patrol
Are they though? I figure they must have enough veterans employed.
young pecan
I mean...
reef patrol
Also apparently they knew about this from earlier.
young pecan
Don't uncap the menu FPS and push the GPU to it's breaking point?
Is that a veteran thing?
reef patrol
So... seems more like a "upper management" decision somewhere to speed up deployment for beta.
ashen spindle
yea, having experience is not the same as having running settings/system set up already
and I doubt they uncapped it but rather just didn't add a cap?
fickle ore
be glad it's just the menu lol. been happening for years on the menu & ingame for BDO/PoE
BDO launcher whines louder than my ex
young pecan
Why am I not surprised either of those games have that issue...
ashen spindle
yeah its nothing new, it's just new that it shuts down cards
young pecan
But hey guys, think about it this way... esports menu FPS.
fickle ore
BDO is fine in-game
fickle ore
They should test EVGA 3090 on BDO launcher and PoE lol
ashen spindle
doubt anything will happen
young pecan
Ah yes. "Hey guys, mind throwing a $3000 card at potential danger for science?"
I can see that going great. :D
fickle ore
😄
ashen spindle
if it's not causing other cards to terminate, it also shouldn't matter for the evga cards
since it seems to have issue when limit is hit, not lower limits
fickle ore
I mean isn't it specifically EVGA 3090's
ashen spindle
it's only evga cards that "brick" but plenty others also get really hot and shut down
zenith sonnet
60fps caps in menus
Fuck 60 FPS caps. At least do 500, we already have 360Hz displays
fickle ore
My EVGA gtx 780 bricked within a year too. I don't trust EVGA after that 😄
I don't mind fps caps in menus. Even better do 30 fps or something for power savings. Many ppl idle at menus anyway.
neat oriole
Fuck 60 FPS caps. At least do 500, we already have 360Hz displays
Bro why do you need 500 fps in the main menu 
young pecan
Gotta make sure those 1% lows cap the monitor.
zenith sonnet
Personally, I'd be fine with 144 Hz, since my display can't do more
But I'd be pissed if I wouldn't get that in menus
neat oriole
But why
fickle ore
I'm running only 240hz atm, even if my monitor is capable of 280hz, because computer explodes running BDO 24/7 at 280 fps
idk why but 240fps to 280fps is big
neat oriole
You can run up to 360fps in the actual game
zenith sonnet
Lol, 144Hz is a massive upgrade to the desktop experience...
You should try a high refresh rate monitor some time...
neat oriole
The menu is just a screen for you to click play game
crimson wigeon
Or just enforce vsync in menus
young pecan
You can run up to 360fps in the actual game
In all seriousness, there've been studies on that and you see benefit doubling a monitors refresh rate.
zenith sonnet
And change settings, and whatever else you got
Like reading news
zenith sonnet
Also, why the hell do you not cap it yourself?
zenith sonnet
So, just leave the game uncapped?
young pecan
Also, why the hell do you not cap it yourself?
Because higher FPS gives you better performance, if only a little.
But hey, ESPORTS EXTREME, GOTTA GET ALL OF THAT MARGINAL IMPROVEMENT.
neat oriole
If you push your GPU too hard you’ll just get massive input lag
Or CPU too hard rather
So going massively over your refresh rate and maxing out your CPU/GPU is going to be an overall worse experience
young pecan
No.
Not really.
If you overstress the GPU and CPU, yes.
But otherwise there's benefit.
fickle ore
@neat oriole Nothing to do with pushing gpu too hard specifically, or cpu for that matter. Sure they're fucked if they're both 100% but the issue is technically if CPU renders a frame faster than GPU, it builds backpressure/buffers that are x frames long. Doesn't happen the other way around.
young pecan
But only up to about double.
zenith sonnet
Just cap FPS 3 Hz below your VRR limit
young pecan
Why 3 specifically?
neat oriole
I forget the specific number so I just cap it at my refresh rate
zenith sonnet
Arbitrary
young pecan
Ah.
zenith sonnet
You can do 2, or 4 ...
fickle ore
Optane drive arriving soon, pretty excited
hope my 0,1 % and 0,01 % lows see improvement 😄
fickle ore
You can do 2, or 4 ...
Whats AMD VRR range?
zenith sonnet
Depends on the display
Mine's 48-144Hz
With LFRC doubling frames between 24 and 47, to stay in range
fickle ore
Ahh I need to check what mine's capable then
zenith sonnet
<@!289940229694029824> Nothing to do with pushing gpu too hard specifically, or ...
You know what I miss? A software that can read and display how long the queue is.
So you know if you need to work on that, or if you're good, or if the game is fucked to begin with
fickle ore
@zenith sonnet I think AMD's default is 1 nowadays, but sometimes if the software notices hitches and stuff it adjusts it to 2. I think there's a regedit force-key. For Nvidia it's 3 by default, but setting low-latency mode to "On" forces it to 1
But yeah I wish games would show it
It would be really useful for finding when/where cpu boundedness switches to gpu-boundedness and the buffers start to build up
wheat plume
Same :D
reef patrol
wheat plume
I knew Mansen would be intrigued :')
shadow minnow
https://www.spreadprivacy.com/introducing-email-protection-beta/
Have this through ICloud too, it’s quite Pog. Also can select it when registering to any app.
wheat plume
oo
shadow minnow
Example of how some apps see my email address
pale sigil
The site lied to me
So let me get this straight?
Where do your emails get stored
If they don't store them
Locally?
crimson wigeon
Get a free, personal @duck.com email address. Emails sent to it will forward to your regular inbox, with creepy email trackers removed.
shadow minnow
Locally?
Idk about duck, but iCloud when through applied afaik. It’s quite Pog since it’s new email address for every app, and also synced.
reef tundra
You could also just render it in plain text instead.
old marlin
Idk about duck, but iCloud when through applied afaik. It’s quite Pog since it’s...
you can just get a "new" email address by adding a random number of dots in random places
before the @ at least
shadow minnow
Sure, but why would you do it manually when you don’t have to
thick elk
They lost me at downloading an app
In general I just don't load the images in mails I recieve
zenith sonnet
It would be really useful for finding when/where cpu boundedness switches to gpu...
Think RTSS would be able to see and display it? It should, from my understanding
vagrant pagoda
I just run vsync on windowed apps and have gysnc on for Fullscreen. No issues for over frame rates
The games I play it dosent matter lol
120hz is fine
RimWorld, coq and obvion won't even get there lol
ashen spindle
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/au-optronics-latest-panel-development-plans-july-2021 that last paragraph is nice, having a good VA screen in the size where Samsung is still using their older VA tech could be what I’m looking for
vagrant pagoda
But it's 25 inch "class"
ashen spindle
the evil microsoft is open sourcing???? has to be a trick!!
also steam getting ddos'd
year of vulkan doesn't instantly make it the year of linux fwiw
reef tundra
DirectX9 is nearly completely translated I think
crisp granite
mmmm
just what I like when I game
having that super cool corona effect with my lightsaber
/s
...
800p...30 fps
fuck off
this is 2021
not 2008
to be fair, that's still alright for mobile hardware, but....yeeesh
not too great overall
reef tundra
So the marketing needs to be more deceptive? Interresting demand
reef patrol
Pros
Dedicated controller
Actually portable
Con Smol screen
Smaller battery
Hot to hold
reef tundra
What? Since when is a 120hz cheaper than a 60hz panel
reef patrol
When more are manufactured and thus cost less in bulk?
Or when the price difference to manufacture / buy is less than the "value added" to customers?
thick elk
Honestly I think the Steam deck is something I would use quite a bit.
It's a handheld gaming system running something pretty similar as my desktop in terms of software.
Battery is not great but enough for my commute / in bed / my use on vacation.
Price seems pretty good, of course at the price there are trade-offs but I would not use a gaming laptop in the same scenario's as this.
As for 120hz , I am pretty sure Valve is getting a off-the-shelve 1280x800 ips panel and considering the devices they are used in, they really don't come in 120hz / with vrr support right now.
This is the main factor in terms of cost. Sure if they knew it was going to be enough of a success to invest in a custom screen, but I don't think that is the case.
Even Nintendo went with an off-the-shelve screen for the Switch, it just doesn't make much sense to go the custom route here.
Going higher resolution would not be desirable due to the performance of the system.
ashen spindle
no point in a 120hz screen if it's a recommendation to use 30fps for more battery lmao
chrome estuary
they said it has all the hookups for VR but it wouldn't be recommended
astral haven
no point in a 120hz screen if it's a recommendation to use 30fps for more batter...
120hz vrr...
Dunno if dosbox supports dxinput joystick, but that's all you need
The gyro can simulate a joystick or keeb inputs or mouse
ashen spindle
vrr doesn't really make 120hz use less power
thick elk
Either way if you want to hit $400 with the base model, you are not putting in a 120hz screen
astral haven
vrr doesn't really make 120hz use less power
It does...
It uses as much power as it refreshes at...
astral haven
Either way if you want to hit $400 with the base model, you are not putting in a...
Ok so make it an upgrade?
ashen spindle
sure, but even if it has 0 overhead(idk if it does), still chugs battery extremely fast if it's not at 120 all the time but dips to 80 or whatever
astral haven
Not how vrr is supposed to work
thick elk
Another thing is you would need a different display controller, dimensions may not be identical so different mold as well. only increasing the unit price.
ashen spindle
you're telling me a 60hz screen uses more power than a VRR screen that varies between 80 and 120?
thick elk
The main cost for ordering such a screen would be the initial cost, not the unit price per se. Mostly because no one else is using these lower resolution 120hz 7inch panels with vrr.
astral haven
No a vrr capable panel running at 30 fps uses less power than a 60hz
And will be smoother
thick elk
The reason smartphones get away with 120hz screens is economies of scale.
astral haven
The main cost for ordering such a screen would be the initial cost, not the unit...
Except Samsung already makes em...
Sure they are higher res but that's easy to deal with in software
astral haven
There are plenty of those
thick elk
remember if they have the tooling they can keep producing them for quite some time as well
Samsung Galaxy Tab A 7.0
2016
or just the panel it could be using: http://usa.tianma.com/products-technology/product/tm070jdhg30-00
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002775537352.html?algo_exp_id=988d71c9-a6fb-408a-8167-e34aabe74470-0
reef tundra
Its importing the ability to export
ashen spindle
ah, intel q2 earnings today and IDM talk on monday, lets hope for once it's not containing any delays
misty saffron
what framerate is the video
reef tundra
So close to greatness, yet so far
astral haven
So basically it'll always have 2 frames of 60hz regardless of ghosting...
misty saffron
resampling, brother
misty saffron
no i replied
crisp granite
I was considering getting a mini cooper for myself since parking in the city is a bitch and mileage is great on those
they're also pretty well priced used around where I am
crisp granite
that's how you save on fuel...they're also pretty light and small
shit, someone in 'sauga is selling a 2007 mini in stellar shape for 5.8k CAD
misty saffron
bro you don’t want a car that doesn’t accelerate
crisp granite
I never have to drive above 60 km per hour
so...shit dude, I don't need a fancy fuckin' car
misty saffron
you’d love these two lane roads here then
crisp granite
yep, recall that spans a seriously good chunk of years
ah...corrosion...
good news, certified pre-owned minis have that issue addressed at the dealership
uh...nah mate, I'm pretty tall and I want something that won't go flying in a small fender-bender
ew
that's just nasty
...
give me five
I gotta go puke
crisp granite
ok
I'm back
ffs Locke
no more disturbing shit like that again
you understand?
die in hell
I'm gonna fail to sleep with that burned into my eyesockets and haunting my every thought while I lie awake
thanks chief
vagrant pagoda
Buddy ships parts for automation
and has 2 dudes that just weld skids for them
they dont even bother with wood
shipping is that bad on ltl
crimson wigeon
obviously a paid shill
young pecan
Now that’s easily the most premium breakout board I’ve ever seen.
1600W of graphics card power supply. :D
young pecan
I mean... 40FPS ain’t too bad for that.
wheat plume
15 minutes is enough to explain how to install and show you going through an installer
old marlin
you mean
the thing you have to do with windows
with the biggest difference being how you flash your usb drive
wheat plume
yes
but 90% of windows users havent installed it cause its already on the computer, maybe its not that high but a majority still
wheat plume
True
ashen spindle
true
pale sigil
Foxy
wheat plume
Apparently this is Plasma desktop
Ive never seen Plasma has this menu before, I wonder what its called
misty saffron
god i fucking hate vs profiler
always a gamble whether it works or not
been stuck on 0% for 5 minutes :)
ashen spindle
huh
impressive
never that that so far
gigantic project or what is clogging it up here?
misty saffron
it's 10k lines at best
ashen spindle
hmm, lots of threading? weird compile flags?
misty saffron
2 threads, no
ashen spindle
bad cpu?
misty saffron
don't think so man..
i wish i could avoid profiler just by having a bad cpu and commenting out code, lol
ashen spindle
I think I read something about VS22 improving upon the profiler, but I'm not certain which one it was
so maybe try the preview of it
ashen spindle
idk, only know it is finally a 64bit application
ashen spindle
maybe? I don't think they reall use copilot where intellicode works well like c++ and c#
crimson wigeon
Some things never change
ashen spindle
linux distros on april fools should make it so every update or install of something needs a reboot
plush summit
foxxo
ashen spindle
can CLion compile linux builds on a windows machine via VM/WSL and offer debug options and also push a release direcktly to docker?
misty saffron
pro tip
if you want to pirate a font, search on github
ok this cascadia mono shit microsoft has defaulted is garbage
ashen spindle
yeah just make sure to use the version without ligatures, idk how that can be the default option for coding
crimson wigeon
Ligatures are stupid
ashen spindle
if I were to never use a different pc and never let anyone use mine, maybe, even then it's annoying sometimes
like gl knowing what part to click on a => arrow that is combined when you want to change it, or be confused when it's an arrow but the syntax looks weird then
for pure viewing, sure I think it looks nice
but not for working with it
ashen spindle
misty saffron
ah it's loading symbols
horribly slowly
reeeeeally taking its time
holy shit codecvt performance is garbage
pale sigil
@misty saffron how many licenses have you destroyed hacking escape from tarkov
ashen spindle
license for what? tarkov is free iirc?
astral haven
Windows licenses
Tarkov ac is supposed to ban based on windows license
ashen spindle
Just don’t activate windows lol
Not like it would ban people on not activated machines
crisp granite
misty saffron
<@466325855598280705> how many licenses have you destroyed hacking escape from t...
licenses?
brother
if you mean windows licenses
you can either use my bypass
or just change the product key in registry
fair gull
really liking Jetbrains Mono for coding/terminals
firacode
the font i like the most tbh
ah yes
everything is undefined
ashen spindle
too compressed for me to like it I think
misty saffron
https://discordjs.moe/ejl50xaxa0j0.png
nice wdk bro
fair gull
u know
i just upgraded to 10.0.20348.0
and it complains that it isnt installed
i see the problem
ashen spindle
fair gull
glad visual studio correctly fetches the latest version as .0
fair gull
you also need spectre mitigated libs for drivers
unless the vsi changes it still installs those by default when u install msvc
old marlin
@misty saffron how do you even get banned
fair gull
by getting banned
misty saffron
i speedran it too once
3 hours
killed the same people on labs 3-4 times
10 labs raids
fair gull
so
i just for fun
thought i could clean up the libs i have installed for msvc
id gain 50gb
maybe installing everything vs has was
a bad idea
misty saffron
maybe installing everything vs has was
are you genuinely retarded bro
pale sigil
@misty saffron how many times have you been banned from tarkov
misty saffron
5
pale sigil
Rich boi
ashen spindle
true quest
blood loss is no joke
ashen spindle
wait the game is seriously not free to play?
fair gull
u know whats free 2 play tho
crisp granite
when the arm shots are lethal
they seriously could be
just the shock if the damage is bad enough will kill
oh, and the magic that is blood loss
crisp granite
not how that works, chief
crisp granite
I have never decided to get a stiffie after losing a limb to stem blood loss
🙄
because...there are better ways and a stiffie would help a tiny bit at best
crisp granite
or...just use something high caliber and slow moving, so that the bullet can stay intact and seriously fuck up whatever you shoot it at
even a shot to the torso would easily be lethal or at least seriously damaging
misty saffron
blood loss is no joke
blood loss is a different thing in the game
true quest
i know
reef tundra
Very dependent where. Even in the liver it changes your chance to stay alive if you got hit in the left or right side
crisp granite
Very dependent where. Even in the liver it changes your chance to stay alive if ...
fire a bullet slow enough, and if it hits something hard, but not fast enough to shatter, it'll start spinning within the target
horrendous meat loss on the animal I shot at that time, but...still saved the tenderloins, the best part, and the one I always call dibs on
reef tundra
If you shoot in the head you want them to be supersonic atleast
more damage to the brain due to the breaking of the speedbarrier
crisp granite
...shots at vitals are more likely to hit and therefore kill or maim, I thought some finnish chad already figured that out fighting the soviets forever ago
crisp granite
Shoot both and you are pretty fucked without medic near you
even most field medics wouldn't be able to help that
that's just...death, most probably
I forgot the technical term for this, but your chest cavity starts to fill with air if a puncture goes through your chest and lungs
reef tundra
You need balloons to help inflate them. Which also install a metal mech to keep it inflated and not obstruct breathing
Pulmonary embolism
misty saffron
If you shoot in the head you want them to be supersonic atleast
102 km/s fast enough?
reef tundra
340m/s is the speed of sound on average
misty saffron
funnily enough they take that into account in tarkov
you hear the bullet flying next to you quicker than you hear a gunshot
reef tundra
If you hear the bullet crackling through the air its supersonic
AS-VAL has subsonic ammo to counter that sound to be even more silent
does make it less able to mid to long range engagements. Bullets tend to tumble and fly off target
reef tundra
You need some special medical devices to do much to help it
Which other than combat field medics noone would be expected to have available
However hope there are not other wounded as triage would consider you too much work to possibly safe you
crisp granite
yep, especially with a lot of forces starting to or looking at reissuing cold war weapons in higher calibers than current issue rifles and a general focus on defeating body armour, I'd expect those kinds of injuries to happen a hell of a lot more
ffs, the US NGSW weapons program is looking at a 6.8mm round, and the designs submitted are pretty punchy ngl
reef tundra
Against armour you want as small caliber as one can get away with. less surface area means more pressure to puncture the armour
crisp granite
but not at the cost of less damage underneath
which is why low recoil (relatively) high velocity, basically full rifle caliber designs are being proposed
reef tundra
recoil is mostly how the gun is designed.
crisp granite
well, yes, but you can only take so many design liberties in an easily shoulder-able, reasonably accurate and reliable weapon system really meant for frontline troops
reef tundra
accuracy by volume
crisp granite
😬
no
literally any force issued firearms (other than US police departments, it seems) are trained to be reasonably accurate, firing precision shots, not spray-and-pray
reef tundra
an-94 shot two rounds in one go. More bullets before the recoil kicked in 
at the cost of 6x the ak-74 or something
crisp granite
¯_(ツ)_/¯
good channel, interesting insights and commentary
but that's from his eyes and his alone, and...he clearly isn't most cops
nah
I really have no issues with police
probably because I haven't done anything to attract their attention in a negative way
...cops would only be looking for me if I or someone around me did something wrong...and I take steps to ensure I, at least, never need to be brought in by cops
true quest
you're not all people doe
crisp granite
that was early 1800's US polititians beliefs that the USA should encompass all of north america (failed invasion of BNA)
I don't get how that makes any sense in the context, mate
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I ain't a depressed housewife
so...idk anything about it
ah...wow
sounds like a load of shit, ngl
sounds like a repeat of 2008
just without the banks cheering you on
and...you're traumatised by them
or at least bothered by books being sold cheering on denying reality
powerful enough to deny actual existence and substitute it with it's own fanciful version
that tends to only happen when the wires are crossed temporary, or just came crossed out of the box, so to speak
crisp granite
holy shit, if true, I aughta get my ass one ASAP
ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtve0u3GJ9Y there, one version with what ti can do or not
ashen spindle
consoles? better viewing experiences?
reef patrol
We need 144hz TVs obviously. For 48fps movies xD
wheat plume
So, sort of AI frame rate increasment?
Like how people turn anime into 60Hz?
xd
🤔 This reeks of Clickbait
ashen spindle
I'd say it's extremely obvious sarcasm but I guess that would technically count
wheat plume
hmm?
astral haven
Tbh yea
If I had never experienced a 144 display I'd be several thousand dollars richer and alot happier about my monitor
wheat plume
several thousand
???? you spend that much on monitors?
astral haven
144 laptop was expensive
crisp granite
🤔 This reeks of Clickbait
it's actually true
I can't go below 75 hz now
it genuinely hurts to play on my old xbox one the rare times I do because the frame rate is so painfully low, but I was content with it less than a year ago, not knowing what better looked and felt like
it...ruined my perception of frame/refresh rate, completely
zenith sonnet
God, that's janky af
vagrant pagoda
Not really. PC game got it's jump in the uk/eu on computers that were still pal
zenith sonnet
I think people still underestimate the Steam Deck APU
After the Xbox in first and PS5 in second place, is there any APU that's more powerful out there right now?
vagrant pagoda
also people think its only for new aaa games
indie games and old games are steams bread and butter
which will do great on the deck
astral haven
After the Xbox in first and PS5 in second place, is there any APU that's more po...
its gonna be slower than the base ps4 because of the anemic bandwidth too along with obviously the pro and xbonex
its also not faster than the vega m gl and gh which were pretty heavily panned for being slow in games
crisp granite
runs perfect
because half the frame rate you should be getting with given hardware, is perfect (metro exodus before native linux release)
fuck off
vagrant pagoda
its gonna be slower than the base ps4 because of the anemic bandwidth too along ...
I mean its a newer gpu core than vega m
like much newer
Also the deck has unified memory, vega m had seperate hbm2
zenith sonnet
its gonna be slower than the base ps4 because of the anemic bandwidth too along ...
How much bandwidth does the base PS4 have?
The GPU cores are a hell of a lot newer though, and will do a lot more work with the same TFLOP on paper
astral haven
How much bandwidth does the base PS4 have?
170g
crisp granite
yes, "disco effect" "frame dips" "character faces are messed up"
gold rating
RE Village
I'm sorry, but no, not how that works, chief
astral haven
The GPU cores are a hell of a lot newer though, and will do a lot more work with...
Not how that works
zenith sonnet
It does work like that, though
vagrant pagoda
ps4 has about the same memory thoughput
zenith sonnet
RE Village has plenty issues on Windows, though...
Gold is fair, imo
vagrant pagoda
pretty sure ps4 base is 256bit 5500mt/s gddr5
zenith sonnet
Yes
crisp granite
RE Village has plenty issues on Windows, though...
Gold is fair, imo
...hard agree, after putting in about 25 hours over 3 runs
zenith sonnet
176 GB/s
crisp granite
serious frame dips during the fights with the daughters, those bug effects must really be a pain to render
zenith sonnet
Twice the bandwidth, but LPDDR5 is a newer standard, and has much lower latency and is much more flexible
Quad 32 bit channels
vagrant pagoda
the diff between the old as fuck jaguar cpus in the ps4 and zen2 in the deck is huge
vagrant pagoda
at literally 10% the power
that is the killer spec
S is gddr6 though
but yes the run the same gpu/cpu cores
just more of them clocked higher
zenith sonnet
Valve said they haven't found a single steam game yet that the deck can't run at at least 30 FPS average at 1280x800 res
zenith sonnet
And there's some poorly optimised shit out there...
vagrant pagoda
tsmc literally cant loose
crisp granite
Valve said they haven't found a single steam game yet that the deck can't run at...
with super low settings for a lot of newer games, probably
vagrant pagoda
zen2 having such good ipc is a lot of that
it has enough grunt to handle games with low clocks
zenith sonnet
CP77 low settings would probably run at around 50 FPS on the deck
crisp granite
cyberpunk, which I don't think anyone plays anymore anyway, would definitely be a low AF setting blurfest
vagrant pagoda
leaves a lot of power budget for the gpu
zenith sonnet
cyberpunk, which I don't think anyone plays anymore anyway, would definitely be ...
It actually runs pretty damn well on low end hardware, surprisingly
crisp granite
crisp granite
why can't it run well on high end hardware...
reef tundra
Because they hate the rich
zenith sonnet
The issue with consoles was mostly the storage and texture streaming
zenith sonnet
Cp77 ran amazingly well for my
crisp granite
i mean it was made for consoles
"fifteen FPS" says me
crisp granite
I beat it on an RTX 3070, 1080p maxed, but had to turn off RT with the latest update, performance is hella gimped
zenith sonnet
55 FPS average on mixed high settings, but buttery smooth
A smoothness that felt like I was playing a stable 144 FPS
pale sigil
Binning me system
zenith sonnet
Was amazing, honestly
crisp granite
would be a hell of a bonfire ngl
12/10 would attend
I coulda sworn cal had an RTX 3080
zenith sonnet
The thing about the deck that has me worried most is honestly the display
zenith sonnet
No hint at to what expect in terms of latency
reef tundra
Because not everyone has 500 to throw around or more
crisp granite
well, yes, but 833 quid is a lot for a card that should be under 600
crisp granite
Because not everyone has 500 to throw around or more
wait...most people don't have a week or two of wages to just blow on a leisure device???
that's absolutely nuts
/s
crisp granite
cal...hold off on that 3080...I might trade you my 3070 and a few hundred canuckistani kopeks for it
scratch that
you could resell it for at least what you bought it for within the UK
or sell your entire system at profit and someone will most definitely buy it
crisp granite
And my system is shit
it isn't if it has an RTX 3080 in it...
reef tundra
I know right, so cheap. Why not go with a 10k budget instead and sell like 10 devices. The Chief Financial Officer might tell its a financial mistake to sell it so high over the equilibrium of demand and supply but what they know? Go make some graphs or something lmao
crisp granite
...
I love the sarcasm
but I'd have you in a chokehold if I knew you weren't joking, Pinch
pale sigil
My mobo is cursed
My ram is cursed
Mobo just hasn't posted and I have to restore via USB firmware 5 times now since getting it
Ram is apparently running awful
Which would explain the stutter issues I face
reef tundra
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
crisp granite
does everything you touch instantly fail
pale sigil
Apparently so
crisp granite
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
I'm sure he has, that's literally all of product support other than RMAs
pale sigil
RMA has become a routine at this point
reef tundra
lol, how.
crisp granite
routine, but not like shaving and showering before going to the hospital
it's almost a ritual, a practice conducted regularly, consistently, almost with reverence
reef tundra
I dont even remember last time device failed on me. Even when fucking it up severely, it still ends up fine
crisp granite
windows won't install?
run linux
GF just left you?
run linux
car accident?
run linux
heart attack?
run linux
died?
run linux
zenith sonnet
<@211151302535806976> tell him
Tell who what?
crisp granite
the solution to every conceivable problem is just...installing and running linux
/s
zenith sonnet
How bad your memory timings are?
pale sigil
Ye
reef tundra
No legs?
Run linux on the prosthetics. or you wont be able to run
zenith sonnet
Oh they garbage
Look at the trfc
Almost breaking 4 digits, with XMP on 
crisp granite
...
uh, Cal
boyo
have you checked with other kits to ensure that kit isn't defective?
zenith sonnet
No WHEA errors, so there's a good chance it's just ... slow
reef tundra
Like a turtle
crisp granite
but...he bought a binned kit, no?
you'd expect...the bin clockspeeds on the package, at least
reef tundra
binned as in trashed away 
crisp granite
no?
crisp granite
binned as in trashed away <:mm:638142954841833512>
ur mum
idk, my brain went 5 year old for a hot second
crisp granite
I love my dad
he's pretty awesome
helped me with all that hard math homework when I was a kid
still helps me sort out all the hard shit in life that I struggle to do myself
reef tundra
Good. The plan is going exactly is planned. One day all parents will be good!
zenith sonnet
but...he bought a binned kit, no?
Not sure what that means, but XMP will still be whatever the manufacturer programmed
crisp granite
Not sure what that means, but XMP will still be whatever the manufacturer progra...
binned as in "selected for better die quality, clockspeeds, stability, etc."
I'm sure they do that with ram as well
not just CPUs and GPUs
pale sigil
have you checked with other kits to ensure that kit isn't defective?
No but I'm thinking of trying each ram individual
zenith sonnet
All RAM is binned
pale sigil
See if it makes a difference?
crisp granite
ye
pale sigil
Is thay a good way?
crisp granite
it's possible you just got a shitty ram kit installed
zenith sonnet
Yes, it is a good way
reef tundra
Ram is binned for consistency between the chips i believe
zenith sonnet
But keep in mind, your system will be slower with only 1 stick
crisp granite
identify trouble spots, determine if xyz is the issue, address if it is, otherwise move on
pale sigil
Then its obvious if one is defected
pale sigil
I might just do that now
crisp granite
at least with ram kits
reef tundra
Switch it around and check if the problem follows
crisp granite
Good. The plan is going exactly is planned. One day all parents will be good!
...
wait
there are bad parents out there?
WTF
pale sigil
Brb, gotta find my USB drive and laptop
crisp granite
I thought QVL was "we paid good money to be on this list, now buy our ram"?
xD
yea...that really is a bit far fetched
I just find it a bit stupid, as the lists always seem pretty threadbare to me, ignoring most of the not so name brand ram kits
zenith sonnet
Looks to be there?
reef tundra
There are not a lot of manufacturers left in the world
zenith sonnet
Only works in sockets 1 and 2, though
pale sigil
Laptop acquired
crisp granite
🎉
crisp granite
F
crisp granite
post pic of unicorn barf svp
pale sigil
Sec
crisp granite
nice sleeved cables
pale sigil
Which makes sense
crisp granite
pale sigil
Gonna try single ram
reef tundra
It so white.. might want to watch it for imperialistic sentiment
pale sigil
Can someone do me a favor
crisp granite
...probably
pale sigil
Check what socket it should be in single
crisp granite
for...what motherboard?
reef tundra
Try them all
crisp granite
single slot, dimm 2
pale sigil
Ty
crisp granite
B2
pale sigil
So second slot
crisp granite
second from the left
crisp granite
pale sigil
My GPU not having support gives me anxiety
reef tundra
b2 fortress bomber. what you going to nuke now
crisp granite
b2 fortress bomber. what you going to nuke now
ur mum
pale sigil
I removed it for testing purposes
crisp granite
crisp granite
if it's that your mum drank shroom tea instead of regular leaf water and is currently spazzing out on a rug talking about aliens, very cool but don't share
crisp granite
but...at least you're getting reasonable temps...or at least reported reasonable temps now
pale sigil
reef tundra
I got working ram
iron wave
You guys know the Pico?
crisp granite
the laser Pico?
iron wave
Raspberry Pi.
reef tundra
I know of a picometer, picoliter, picogram
iron wave
It's a neat little micro that has some programmable silicon. Half way between a CPLD/FPGA and a CPU.
reef tundra
Or you cursed it. but faulty ram is likely
iron wave
Wait, TL;DR?
pale sigil
Hmm
iron wave
What's going on?
pale sigil
Basically I was stuttering and @zenith sonnet asked for my sensors stats
He noticed my ram was working shit
iron wave
Ah.
iron wave
I'm not that into memory timings.
iron wave
If I tighten any of mine up or increase the clock speed I need to clear CMOS.
pale sigil
XD
crisp granite
that sounds kinda nasty
iron wave
Don't think so, but I'm on my phone and I have DDR3 so the timings will be different if you have DDR4.