🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

Hardly small but OK

[young pecan]

She was warned because Linus doesn’t want potential backlash since he’s a good business owner and good business owners don’t just fuck around here.

[ashen spindle]

in relative terms, small

and I still dont understand what your point is why that matters

[pale sigil]

If she was not in a position to cause dmg

He wouldn't have warned her

In the first place

[young pecan]

Cal, it doesn’t work that way.

You should know in your position.

[pale sigil]

Exactly

I've done this

[young pecan]

So you’d know it doesn’t work that way.

[pale sigil]

And faced the consequences

Irs why I don't freely use my reddit account anymore

Because I've almost caused trouble with cooler master lol

[young pecan]

As a business owner it’s not about the weight, it’s about employees in general doing stupid shit that reflects on the company.

[ashen spindle]

your point is that Raid supposedly gains something from the fact that parts of her following are coming from LTT

[pale sigil]

Also Calder throws around the term weight a lot

[young pecan]

I mean shit, I’d say Jake has more pull than Madison does.

[ashen spindle]

but they dont gain anything aside from reach to those people from her sponsored post

[young pecan]

Or Anthony.

[ashen spindle]

but raid dont care where those people are from, just that they are seeing the sponsorship

[young pecan]

When Anthony does something it gets a hell of a lot more attention than Madison.

She’s an NPC, tbh.

[pale sigil]

Bleh idk

[young pecan]

Anthony is main cast.

[pale sigil]

Anthony is pretty powerful aye

Or well climbed a lot

[young pecan]

Anthony, Collin, Jake, Linus, etc.

Madison doesn’t go anywhere near their pull.

Colton as well.

The fact that Linus has fired him 17 times and he’s still working there is great.

[pale sigil]

He has? XD

[young pecan]

Yep.

[pale sigil]

Wasnt it just verbal frustration

[young pecan]

First time he screwed up on a sponsor deal and Linus just walked into his office and fired him.

[pale sigil]

Not actually carried out

[young pecan]

Colton thought he was joking and just continued working.

[pale sigil]

Ye I know

[young pecan]

He never did end up leaving.

[pale sigil]

But afaik

It wss never actually come

Done

[young pecan]

Well yeah.

[pale sigil]

Just verbal frustration

That happens a lot in normal work places lol

[young pecan]

First few times it was quasi serious. All the times after that it’s memes.

And so far the count is 17.

Man’s been fired 17 times from one job.

:)

[pale sigil]

James may wants a word

He expects to be fired every job xD

[reef patrol]

Only bad resignation so far I remember is Ivan.

[young pecan]

Wait, Ivan left?

He was pog.

[reef patrol]

...yes... years ago 😛

[young pecan]

I thought he got shunted into Luke’s shenanigans.

:(

[pale sigil]

I miss some of the OGs

[young pecan]

Give me the Luke/Linus collabs.

[pale sigil]

That too

[young pecan]

I miss their jank water cooling.

Mineral oil cooling again, pls.

[crisp granite]

watercooling the TI-84 wasn't jank enough for you?

[young pecan]

Mate, I need LN2 cooling a TI-84.

Do not even fucking test me.

COOL IT WITH LIQUID HELIUM.

:D

[crisp granite]

Liquid helium ITX PC

no more "you can't cool that component in there" talk from you

[umbral knot]

Is liquid nitrogen electrically conductive if not submerge it 🙃

[vagrant pagoda]

its really inefficient for cooling unless its under pressure

[umbral knot]

then just force it in with a vacuum

[vagrant pagoda]

which is why you would still want a heatsink

other way

you need it under pressure

not vacuum

anyway most ICs dont work at ln2 temps

[umbral knot]

mhm kinda guessed that

[vagrant pagoda]

so computer would likely not boot

why you need a hand torch to ln2 oc lol

there have been a few liquid he ocs

kingpin did one once for amd

pre his evga days

lmap

[zenith sonnet]

How do you start remote diagnosing random computer freezes when the Event Viewer does not contain any logs pointing toward a casue?

[thick elk]

I'd start with a cpu stress test followed by a good memory test (MemTest86 being an example of a garbage test). If that doesn't help clean install is always an option.

Also test if you have any notourious Lag induicing crap such as antiviruses or needless rgb control centers or crap oem's put on pc's.

Microsoft teams and Jira are also examples of problematic software.

[zenith sonnet]

There's probably a lot of that
And the user isn't savvy enough to reinstall Windows themselves

[thick elk]

Also if the system has 4GB ram it can be pretty rough.

Lots of swapping causing freezes

[zenith sonnet]

I'll get them to launch HWinfo and monitor it

See if anything shows up

[thick elk]

Even just having task manager open for a bit can be an indicator.

[zenith sonnet]

I was also curious about temps

Might be dust buildup

[thick elk]

So just wondering what kind of freezes are it, like short stutters or complete system freeze requires a reboot

[zenith sonnet]

System freeze with audio going BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[thick elk]

Sounds like cpu/memory/mobo issues

[zenith sonnet]

Possibly also the GPU

[thick elk]

could be

[zenith sonnet]

Person sorta mentioned it started after replacing their old GPU with a 1050 Ti

Well, I got them to update drivers, from 456 to 471

[thick elk]

what was their old one if it was amd it could just be they didn't clean up the drivers.

[zenith sonnet]

I don't know, person doesn't know, either

[thick elk]

Could also be that the gpu chokes on a poorly ventilated machine, even if its a relatively low power one.

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, or clogged case vents

Might also be the CPU that chokes

Since new GPU means more FPS means more CPU stress

[thick elk]

Intel cpu's at least hapily downclock till pretty much 0

For example at work I had someone who complained his system was slow, looking inside I found the cpu cooler was no longer attached.

granted it was a somewhat low power cpu.

ran at 600mhz at some point though.

[reef patrol]

If it stalls with sound stuttering, then drivers would be my first place to look.

[reef tundra]

Could give the audio process an higher priority even real-time

[zenith sonnet]

Well, updated them
If it doesn't help, I'll shove them through the DDU and TPU NvidiaCleanInstall loop

[astral haven]

A torch is to boot the CPU, most CPUs can't boot when too cold

[reef tundra]

Ah, thats right. Cryogenic temperatures cause semi-conductors to become insulators. Something something quantum magic related

[astral haven]

Other way around

Resistance drops to zero and uh some CPUs don't like that

[reef tundra]

Would that not only be at a certain critical temperature. Resistivity in doped (p-type, n-type) semiconductor is also much more complex due to the various interactions. I remember that it began having very high to infinite resisitivity at 0k, quickly dropping reaching the super critical point, then increasing from that point again, reaching a certain threshold where it begins to drop again as the temperature increases. This would be highly dependent and the exact material how it would map out, but that was the general trend it followed. But that is my vague idea on that spooky cursed lands

[zenith sonnet]

This is surprising

Schiit EU store still has stock for the Modi 3+

I expected that to sell out very quickly

[crimson wigeon]

What's that and should I get one

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.schiit-europe.com/product/modi-3-affordable-do-all-dacs/

[reef tundra]

India god emperor

[zenith sonnet]

A decent DAC for the price

Unfortunately, they got no stock for the Magni 3+ at the same time

That reminds me

What's a good dynamic microphone?

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah that's probably the one I'd like

[zenith sonnet]

I need both

Not sure how much use I get out of a DAC without an AMP :p

[vagrant pagoda]

smh "no user serviceable parts inside"

[zenith sonnet]

Is this anything else than a case to hold a PCB with soldered on components?

[vagrant pagoda]

yes and pcbs are serviceable'

its a bullshit lable

[zenith sonnet]

Yes?

[vagrant pagoda]

to get people to throw away things that break instead of getting them fixed

[crimson wigeon]

Yes their service is getting sent to ewaste when you buy a new one becasue it no longer works

[vagrant pagoda]

i dont buy anything with labels like that

nor warrenty void if removed stickers

[zenith sonnet]

Honestly, PCBs aren't serviceable without access to appropriate tooling and components

They are technician serviceable

But not user serviceable

User serviceable implies no uncommon knowledge/skills or speciality tooling required

[vagrant pagoda]

yes but there is no need for the label

being able to service it should be up the the user to decide

[reef tundra]

User serviceable would be socketed fool proof mechanism that wont need anything more than kindergarten skills

[zenith sonnet]

Where do you see any stickers?

[vagrant pagoda]

electronics used to come with basic schematics for the user to service them

[vagrant pagoda]

i didnt say it had a sticker

[reef tundra]

Its also a way how they will deflect warrently claims based on their failed repair attempt. Which would be harder to counter if it was advertised to be user replacebale

[vagrant pagoda]

incorrect atleast in the US

it would be dumb for that to be law anywhere

[reef tundra]

If you market anything as user replaceable you pretty much get the burden to proof they fucked up so severe any reasonable user should have been able and they went way out the user manual to damage it

[vagrant pagoda]

that sounds like a law written by manufactures so they have a reason to no make things servicable lol

[reef tundra]

Its liability, and like any rational business would do they want to shed the liability away

[zenith sonnet]

Well, there's only ONE part inside. Literally. And that's a PCB.

You cannot expect a user to have the tools to diagnose and fix it

So, not user serviceable

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

so nothing is servicable

if you cant count on the user to have arms

or eyes

or a screwdriver?

[zenith sonnet]

You need more than a screwdriver to diagnose failing components on PCBs

[reef tundra]

Either you did a false advertisement and it is not user replaceable. Thus liable for that. Or you need to litigate user to be a baby with a rocket launcher. Which is not great for marketing/brand reasons

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but not everyone has a screwdriver

so screws arent servicable

[zenith sonnet]

That's wrong. They are

Not having a screw driver is on you

[vagrant pagoda]

why?

[zenith sonnet]

Not having a multimeter is expected

[vagrant pagoda]

unless its provided with the product why would you assume everyone has the screwdriver?

[reef tundra]

Screwdrivers are common enough to be considered to always be available to the user (if the profile is standard)

[vagrant pagoda]

why dose it have to be standard?

[zenith sonnet]

What point are you even trying to make?

[reef tundra]

Because there are some with safety pins or other jank to prevent you from getting the screwdriver for it

[vagrant pagoda]

non serviceable labels are just there to get people to throw it away and not get it fixed.

a watch has batteries

[reef tundra]

But philips, flathead, torx, hex are standard issue to me

[vagrant pagoda]

most poeple dont ahve tools to replace them

so they should put a not serviceable label on it too?

[reef tundra]

Typically a watchmaker would service it?

Batteries, new links, change watch face, gearing whatever

[vagrant pagoda]

so why dont watches have the same label?

or hell cars on the hood

or computers on the side panel?

or hell how about keybaords

[reef tundra]

Watches are expensive pieces of equipment. And they get their customs from the late middle ages when repair was the norm

[zenith sonnet]

Watch batteries are generally user serviceable
It's usually either a screw-on cover or a screwed on cover

[vagrant pagoda]

unless it has a high depth rating

[zenith sonnet]

You can swap the PCB for a new one. They sell those separately

[vagrant pagoda]

then you need the right seals

and lube for them

also most watches take a smaller screw driver than most people have

[reef tundra]

The gears are also smaller than most can see.

[old marlin]

they are not proprietary though

like pentalobe

[vagrant pagoda]

neither is anything in that dac

other than the programing

[old marlin]

yea so what makes it not user serviceable?

besides you not having the tools

[reef tundra]

Is there no ASICs on the board?

[vagrant pagoda]

nope

its a analog devices chip

[old marlin]

apple airpods are not user serviceable

you can't though

they were designed to not be repaired

[reef tundra]

With any warranty claim in the EU and the US the manufacturer has to proof its user caused and not manufacturer defect

[vagrant pagoda]

opening a device dosent void warranty unless you damage

[old marlin]

yea so just design your device so you can't open it without damaging it

[vagrant pagoda]

im not saying everything is servicable, im just saying putting that label on a product is a shitty tactic to limit the life of your products

[old marlin]

oh yea

[zenith sonnet]

To me it looks like an informational label
Literally meaning: You don't need to open this to service any parts.
As opposed to say, tube amps, which need replacement every now and then

[vagrant pagoda]

which shows bad on the company

[old marlin]

warranty void if removed labels are just a dick move

[vagrant pagoda]

which is why i dont buy products with them

[old marlin]

yea uhhhh

gl

[vagrant pagoda]

look at most gpus

[old marlin]

getting a PSU

[vagrant pagoda]

they have that shit

evga

[old marlin]

not quite true

[vagrant pagoda]

has nothing of the sort

they ahve a QC seal on the cooler

[old marlin]

a lot of gpus have stickers on the screws

but not warranty void if removed

[vagrant pagoda]

but it says nothing about the warrenty

[old marlin]

goes for evga as well btw

yea like a PSU

[vagrant pagoda]

dont know what evga gpus you have

or motherboards

but the only thing that says warrenty void on mine

[reef tundra]

Replacing the battery with a new genuine one does not cause an chip to suddenly fail to boot, if all was done with proper procedure. Unless the manufacturer did a oopsy or intentional fucky jucky thus making the user in the right in their claim

[old marlin]

they all have stickers on the screws by now

[vagrant pagoda]

is the SN sticker

[old marlin]

does not void warranty though

[vagrant pagoda]

they have a sticker with evga on it

but nothing about warrenty

its there so you the consumer know it hasnt been messed with

per evga

[old marlin]

that is new

before they claimed it was to know how to diagnose rma cards

[vagrant pagoda]

new? my 2xx gpus have the same

evga has never required the cooler to stay on

they ask you send it in with the carb

[old marlin]

I meant that claim

[vagrant pagoda]

because if not rma may take longer as they have to find a cooler

but evga, gigabyte and asrock have warrantied stuff for me with no cooler

[reef tundra]

EU on warrenty

https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers/consumer-contracts-guarantees/consumer-guarantees/index_en.htm

Mind that, it is the minimum member states must implement in law. They can extend legal protections if they want

That goes more into personal injury, it seems like. In that the product caused physical harm to the buyer

https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers/consumer-contracts-guarantees/consumer-contracts/index_en.htm
to be complete.. about the contract terms

[vagrant pagoda]

i saw that lol

[crimson wigeon]

FUT is srs bsns

[reef patrol]

Footycoin

[reef tundra]

That is just sad, but EA would maintain there is no way FIFA could be turned into money. Just a dedicated fan wanting a 10000000 messies

It triggers the same neural pathways when gambling, it is setup like an casino would(slot machines), it causes people to be addicted to it like gambling would(if only one more try, till their grave), and accepts real money for their fake money to abstract the losses and wins more like casinos do. They seem pretty similair

The house always wins

everything is rigged

What would a casino disquising themselves a football game and fifa differentiate in terms of their gambling part

Our gambling laws are more strict and can ban foreign companies from servicing its citizen without a licence. With the government owning the monopoly on the casinos, lotteries and such

other casinos are allowed but need permission and strict supervision

I know valve blocks me from unlocking those crates and sticker capsules due to legality

The ones with way more capital to burn advertising their scams

Dinosaurs being politicians and thinking yeet means heil satan or something

No the ones who owned Belgium at one point

Northside

gta online got banned aswell for their casino dlc

Ooh apparently we had ratified an expansion on the law relating to online games of chance(1 april 2021). https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/wet-koa/
-It also enforces online providers to have the licence.
-More strict demands in the addiction prevention policy
-Restrict how they are allowed to advertise and to whom.

All to protect the users from addiction and predatory business practises.

https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/over-ons/publicaties/nieuws/2021/juli/ksa-grijpt-illegale/
even facebook, instagram and the like are enforceable

Holy shit the fines are massive

range around the 500k

https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/over-ons/publicaties/nieuws/2021/januari/boete-6-ton-illegaal/

The company got 500k and associate private person got 100k fine

They even told government owned company to stop advertising with football players. As they are seen as role models by minors

They aint kidding around

Even got an agreement with the British and Belgium gambling commissions to work together

[idle ingot]

Might have gotten my hands on a 3080 near MSRP. A bit sketchy though, It's from Mercari. But at least they don't get the money until I receive the product and review the seller.

Guess i'll find out when it gets delivered, tomorrow

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-s-qualification-samples-available-on-black-market-for-1064-usd it's coming

malder lake is closing in

[misty saffron]

14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++?

[ashen spindle]

Nah finally on 10

[crisp granite]

otherwise known as 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

add enough pluses and you'll get a node shrink

trust me

[misty saffron]

The specifications of the Core i9-12900K processors are already known. This SKU offers 8 high-performance Golden Cove cores and 8 high-efficiency Gracemont mini cores. In total the processors offer 16 cores but since Gracemont does not support HyperThreading, the 12900K only offers 24 threads.

125W tdp

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

tjmax now 140c?

[zenith sonnet]

PT2 seems to be 228W

[misty saffron]

remind me when they match zen 2 at least

ty

[ashen spindle]

It’s gonna beat zen3 easily

[misty saffron]

in tdp?

[ashen spindle]

In performance

This ain’t a laptop

Sure it’s funny, but only because high tdp and rocket lake still lost

[misty saffron]

sure but having an oven in your legs isn’t really all that fun

[ashen spindle]

yeah I'm sure the audience that used to pay extra to delid cpus to have higher all core ocs all the time now cares about tdp while the gpu uses 3x the ammount the entire time

[misty saffron]

my cpu and gpu use about 300W full load

[ashen spindle]

also we all know if zen3 could boost to 200W and gain something and not almost nothing everyone would want it

[zenith sonnet]

It's only gonna win in niche cases

[shadow minnow]

Some stores having 3060 on stock here for… msrp of 3080

I mean, it’s not the lowest end AiB model but still

Looks like some 3080 models are in stock too, for almost double their msrp though ;-;

Even model I want is in stock here but the price

Non ti is 1500€, ti 2100€ of waterforce wbs. It’s in stock, but too expensive atm

Seems like price is going down though, from yesterday when it became in stock it already went down 50€

[crisp granite]

[shadow minnow]

[crisp granite]

idk

I'm just thinking that it's good the price of RTX 3000 cards are dropping reasonably fast

but I also want to sell my 3070 for at least what I bought it at when I upgrade in a year or two

(yes, upgrade from a 3070 , you bastards were right when you said 8 gigabytes of VRAM was limiting)

[shadow minnow]

Hope it will continue, seems like for this GPU they have it automatically set for price to decrease to some point until it gets lower, would be Pog if it went lot more down.

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

Yeah no my dude.

Mining is about to hit big boy demand.

Again.

[shadow minnow]

Wish 3080 ti had at least 16gb vram tbh

[young pecan]

EIP1559, the Ergo Network are making some good changes, Solana and ETHO are prepping for some large scale deployment, etc.

[crisp granite]

as long as my RTX 3070 sans ETH hash limiters sells for a thousand around next year, I'm good

[shadow minnow]

Hopefully not
Finally, even if overpriced, GPUs in stock

[young pecan]

Yeah, that sentence only tells me you don't know what's hapening.

[shadow minnow]

I mean, will it be that bad even for GPUs with hash limiters?

[young pecan]

Just EIP1559 won't do much, but it'll have the FHR cards covered, and all of the new LHR cards can mine ERG at full speed.

[crisp granite]

the lite hash rate cards only have one algo gimped

the rest run smooth as butter

[young pecan]

It's only DAG file mining that got limited and ERG is near as profitable as ETH anyway, so who cares? xD

[crisp granite]

so...my 3070 is only really special if someone really wants to mine etherium

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young pecan]

I'll trade you a gigabyte Eagle if you want.

It's LHR.

[crisp granite]

nah

[young pecan]

Worth a shot. :P

[crisp granite]

I like my MSI Gaming X Trio

shit runs cool as ice

[young pecan]

Good call.

[crisp granite]

even after 10 hours of RE8

[shadow minnow]

Well, I just hope I will be able to get 3080 or ti waterforce wb for a reasonable price sometime soon. Since I am mostly gonna use it for 4K at least 12 gb vram would be nice

[crisp granite]

never goes above 70 degrees Celsius

[young pecan]

Bruh, just stop being a peabrain and buy a card that's reasonably priced.

[shadow minnow]

There are non atm

[young pecan]

Put a water cooler on it after.

You don't need the gigabyte one.

[shadow minnow]

The waterforce wb is actually one of cheapest 3080 modes I see in stock

[young pecan]

Dude, you don't buy new, wtf stupid ass move are you doing?

[crisp granite]

Aeon

[young pecan]

Buy second hand, NOBODY sane buys new.

[crisp granite]

calm down

[crisp granite]

as someone who only buys new, I agree

[young pecan]

The only people buying new that can afford it are my crypto buddies with inside contacts that scrape the cards at MSRP before they're even in stock.

That's it.

No other reason to buy new.

If you know a guy, sure.

But otherwise? No.

[crisp granite]

I happen to know a guy

that's how I got my card at MSRP at the time

[young pecan]

Exactly.

[crisp granite]

otherwise, could have easily spent...double what I did spend

[shadow minnow]

The thing is that I have been waiting a lot and won’t upgrade for long, so want to go for the exact model

[young pecan]

But nobody is actually browsing through pccg going "2500 fOR a 3080 ThAtS ReAsoNAblE."

Dude, that doesn't matter for shit.

Find the card second hand and save money.

[shadow minnow]

1550€ for one with waterblock. Not the best

But it’s also going down

[crisp granite]

...1000€

[young pecan]

^

And it's not going to hit that.

[crisp granite]

Aeon

it might

in 4 years

[young pecan]

[crisp granite]

when it's not even worth it for mining

then it'll trickle into gamer's hands

[young pecan]

Pff. You kidding?

In 4 years it'll be worth more for mining, mate.

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

Remember when the 1000 series came out?

[crisp granite]

ffs

[young pecan]

Everyone wanted 1060s?

[crisp granite]

this shit never ends

die you mining scum

[young pecan]

Now everyone wants 1080tis. xD

[crisp granite]

because ETH and VRAM...

[young pecan]

Nah.

[crisp granite]

man, I'd trade my RTX 3070 for a 2080Ti at this point

I could use the extra VRAM more than the RT performance

[young pecan]

Because it runs really nice VRAM and if you use Ethlargement it performs about 10% worse than a 3070 for less than half the cost on average.

[shadow minnow]

Tbh maybe would buy it for 1200€, don’t think it’s gonna hit that anytime soon though

[young pecan]

Basically mining these days is 3070s, 1080(ti)s, 2080 Supers, and P106s.

Then the same but AMD.

Those are the best cards you can by for the various shit these days.

And you'll see people running 3060Tis with the limiter bypass.

And that's only for Eth.

For something like Ergo or Ravencoin? People use anything and everything.

I saw a dude mining CCX on a 750Ti 2 days ago.

A SEVEN FIFTY TI.

[shadow minnow]

stop mine me want GPU

[young pecan]

@shadow minnow Look, you gotta just throw the towel in and go buy second hand. If you can't find the shitty watercooled card, who even cares, but at this rate you are either spending too much or waiting too long.

You will not find a good deal MSRP from a shop, it's just not going to happen ever.

Second hand is quite seriously your only possible hope.

[shadow minnow]

I do care, since I have been planning this loop for over 2 years, even 3 by now. And won’t upgrade for another few years

[young pecan]

And if you've been planning a loop it doesn't matter at all.

Go grab a block from EK.

Any card will do.

For me I'm more interested in CCX, SOL, and ETHO.

I wanna see that happen.

Well that's an interesting point, Locke.

In order to control a network you need 51% of a network, but nobody is willing to give anyone else 51% control.

It's like that Pirates of the Caribbean scene.

"I vote for me."

Just about all places have that, my guy.

Eeeeh, nah.

At that stage you start taking about tech availability.

In Aus if I do my job right I can be at 12 cents per KWh. That’s extremely hard to beat anywhere else, but I can do it in a few places.

But the amount I’d save by moving is ultimately not profitable.

Renewable, actually.

I moved off coal on my power provider.

It’s just that I’m buying bulk and paying early so I get a good deal.

So does everyone on earth, bud.

They actually do.

They’re called peaker plants.

Everyone has em because the storage isn’t fast enough for high load times.

Might change soon, actually.

There’s some interesting tech coming about as of late.

Apparently it’s just a weight they drop down a shaft to generate energy. Quick to activate and gives hydro enough time to spin up.

Low potential energy, however. Needs to be designed around an already existing system, but I suppose we’ll see how good something like that goes.

@prisma crag But no, my provider uses a mix of solar, wind, hydro, and that big fuck off energy bank Elon made.

Nah, I can't access the battery.

I wish.

Maybe one will get built up north. :(

Sadly Brisbane doesn't have nearly enough infrastructure for 100% green uptime, but one day.

It's not that bad, but it ain't the best either, y'know?

On the contrary we actually have a really good public transport system.

I can just take a train basically all the way down to the other side of the country. 3 stations.

Iirc the trip is 26 hours or so.

Sydney is weird.

The roads there are fucking awful.

So most people use trams, ferries, trains, and other boats.

The loop over the bridge is fairly quick.

20 minutes from one side of the city to another. Ferries are maybe half an hour across the middle pieces.

[true quest]

top can also, in theory, run switch games

[vagrant pagoda]

most likely

the neo is about 20% slow cpu and 40% slower gpu

and can run them choppy

[young pecan]

With the way Yuzu has been improving it’s a matter of time, not if.

Remember when it came out and you could just play BOTW on day 3 or something with a few mods.

[pale sigil]

“Just werk”

https://youtu.be/5Q_C5KVJbUw

[steep lily]

did they told the price?

how much?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-fancy-nickelodeon-gif-8789131

[young pecan]

It works perfectly, mate.

Yuzu can emulate the switch version of BOTW with zero issues whatsoever.

Tested on 2x 1080, 1080Ti, 6x 3070s, and a 10606GB.

CPUs being 6700K, 3900X, 4790K, and a 7700K.

Works fine.

[timid chasm]

right but the argument is kind of that there's no reason to

When the cemu version has been at the same place for quite some time already plus mods

and there isn't any benefit to play the Switch version

Locke didn't say that you can't do it he said that nobody does meaning...why bother

Now if you wanted to play Pokemon Snap at 60 fps...then hell yeah

for real though if the SteamGear is capable of emulating yuzu well and yuzu gets to the point of cemu it would be worth it just for that, imo

upscaled 60 fps switch games would be baller

Does any scaling look good when going from 4k to 1080p? I didn't know if we ever pulled that off yet. Was always kind of shit

I haven't looked into it for a few years

[old marlin]

this might explain some things for some people

[timid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/ernest-ew-face-eww-gross-gif-5435160

[old marlin]

the dell gaming system mobo layout was nothing new for them

oh also

mild dust after 2 years

[timid chasm]

2 years? lies that's like 10 at least

[old marlin]

na

is a 7th gen CPU

[timid chasm]

Is it in a wood shop?

[old marlin]

and the place it stood in was built 2 years ago

[old marlin]

no

but like

[ashen spindle]

integer scaling is perfect for pixel games but also quite nice for older games to preserver the ratio of things

[old marlin]

20 meters airway from a big hardening furnace

[timid chasm]

Ah, ok. Weird placement but sure I guess

[old marlin]

not so weird if you work in metal plating

also

seen MUCH worse ones

which were way newer

like

18 months old

and the entire inside was coated in a layer of dust so thick that it was all this dark brown on the inside

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle and new games 4k -> 1080p

[timid chasm]

🤢

[ashen spindle]

sure but rarely anyone uses down sampling these days instead of just having a higher res monitor

[fickle ore]

Well, I think a lot of people do/will do when 4k monitors be the norm

then want to run 300+ fps/hz

downscale to 1080p

[ashen spindle]

oh you mean actually running 1080p on a 4k screen and then scale that up?

ehhhhh

[timid chasm]

that would 100% be my use case if we get decent 4k 144hz monitors. 4k for RPG stuff and then 1080p high hz for competitive stuff

[ashen spindle]

I'm pretty confident gpu options will have caught up to screen options when we are at 4k 144+ being a good option to get

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle yes that. 4k monitor into 1080p via integer scaling for increased ppi/less screendoor effect but high fps/hertz

other scaling methods are subpar

[ashen spindle]

so integer down scaling you mean right?

[fickle ore]

yepp

[ashen spindle]

yeah that's neat but again, highly doubt a lot of people will do that

[fickle ore]

4k for mmorpgs/rpg and 1080p for csgo/etc

oh, you'd be surpised about the competitive scene.. though idk if they do any RPGs on the side...

[ashen spindle]

yeah they will get the highest refresh rate on the market, which will not be at 4k for a long time lmao

and starting with RDNA3/lovelace we will also get 4k performance that I'd call high refresh rate finally

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/c_tcg9kOfkg

[wheat plume]

Word now has dark theme on the actual document;s background now.... Interesting

[solemn compass]

yea that's quite interesting. the colors work as you would expect it. black text is white, white text is invisible. only pictures can look kinda wonky

outlook also has a dark theme now, converts emails to dark now too 🙂

[wheat plume]

Gmail does that too on Android

It doesnt work a lot of the time very well

[solemn compass]

on outlook it works quite good

[wheat plume]

Outlook on desktop isnt that bad of a client

I havent used the mobile app though

[solemn compass]

im using it on desktop too

[old marlin]

ios client is terrible

can tell you that

[wheat plume]

oop

[solemn compass]

im having a question, maybe someone can help me, give me advise

i want to buy a new pc case, an inverted one. found the Darkflash DLV22, which looks nice and ticks all my boxes. but it doesnt sell in the netherlands or is 150 euros more expensive than the official site

i have found it on aliexpress from their official store: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001218875653.html?mp=1
which is a bit more expensive than in the US, but is quite in the same range as other options I have. could it be trustworthy to buy it on AliExpress. i think it could be fine

[ashen spindle]

do you want it now or would you be fine to wait a bit

[solemn compass]

oh i can wait, my current case is a bit ugly and is facing the wrong side of the wall

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr6DXtxuxI

might be something then

[solemn compass]

but the max width is around 220mm

but could it be trustworthy to buy a case from aliexpress, any thoughts?

[solemn compass]

looks cool, but not available yet. 😛

[ashen spindle]

hence my question if you want it now or can wait 😛

[solemn compass]

ah yea okay. well quite soon. this year haha

[ashen spindle]

well it sounded like it might still come out this year depending on how much they change for the final revisit

[solemn compass]

okay yea

and it's a really wide boy

that doesnt fit in the place i wanna put it in

[old marlin]

it will at least fit an NH-U12A

no 140mm aio support though

[pale sigil]

https://www.pcgamer.com/you-might-be-able-to-upgrade-a-steam-decks-ssd-but-valve-says-not-to/

[young pecan]

So basically what that really means is “we made a blanket statement so we don’t get as many bad RMA requests because users are stupid, but it’ll totally work”, got it.

[pale sigil]

If they sre nobs about it they will prob have warranty stickers

Which I know aren't entirely legal

Before mansen bites my head off

[timid chasm]

heeey socketed, fuck em then

who cares what kind of statement it is RMA it when it breaks anyway

[young pecan]

Aren’t legal at all. :P

[ashen spindle]

depends on the country

[young pecan]

I had a time when MSI tried pulling a fast on me with that so I simply contacted my government and the aussieland consumer protection system raked them over the coals in a week or so.

[old marlin]

lol

[young pecan]

It’s great here, consumers can really fuck over any company they want if they’re legally in the green.

[old marlin]

I mean

same in germany

[timid chasm]

Governments doing something within a week? sounds sus

[young pecan]

Usually, yeah.

[old marlin]

would take ages here

but you can reall fuck a company over

even if they did everything right

[timid chasm]

wouldn't happen here unless you had a shit ton of people on board

but most likely you could just cite something to get your way

[young pecan]

But the best way to describe aussieland consumer protection is a mix of bloodhound, shark, heat seeking missile, and orbital bombardment.

There is no escape.

Hell, there’re been times where we’ve just yeeted companies from selling anywhere in Aus because they don’t submit to the consumer protection stuff.

Department of Consumer Affairs does not fuck around.

[wheat plume]

Anyone here good at matplotlib python?

I have plt.subplots(3, 1)
and each plot is ax1 ax2 and ax3

and I did plt.title() but it displays it above the last plot and not at the top of the diagram

How do I move the title to the proper place?

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxmy6A3v4Nw

[crimson wigeon]

chonk

[crisp granite]

did steve go on another fun "E-ATX is complete shit" rant?

[crimson wigeon]

But bigger is better

[crisp granite]

ATX is more than enough for most users, go ITX or DTX for SFF builds

that's it

[old marlin]

his problem is not even the size

just that E-ATX is no real standard

it just means "bigger than ATX"

but that would classify for a mainboard that is 4 by 4 meters

[crimson wigeon]

I want that motherboard

[crisp granite]

just...standardise

on...something

and he won't tear it a new asshole whenever one is in his hands

[crimson wigeon]

Yes maybe it's time to break everything and move forward from ATX

[astral haven]

SSI eeb

[fair gull]

so basically like the switch

[zenith sonnet]

It does not mean it's not allowed, it means: Not in a user serviceable location, and that there currently are no consumer/retail drives and they do not provide compatibility lists/support

[pale sigil]

the switch has an m2 slot?

[crisp granite]

[fair gull]

na but the custom socket meant that people started to just desolder the nand chip

[astral haven]

No

[fair gull]

and solder on the same type with higher capacity

[astral haven]

That's not at all the same lmao

[fair gull]

is the same

[crisp granite]

I coulda sworn reading somewhere that it was a 2230 drive

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair gull]

both arent meant to be user serviceable

[astral haven]

It's a standard 2230 drive ...

[crisp granite]

well then, that's easy to replace

[astral haven]

The steam deck is meant to be repairable tho...

[fair gull]

and the switch uses standard sandisk nand flash chips

[pale sigil]

the thing is

it aint soldered

[astral haven]

It's serviceable by a technician without access to proprietary parts

[fair gull]

the sandisk nand flash isnt proprietary either

[astral haven]

Uh

[fair gull]

the part is openly available on many platforms

[astral haven]

Yea that's not how it works

You don't get to say something is serviceable if it requires a hot air rework station, and a custom interface pcb

[fair gull]

id call that serviceable

[astral haven]

Have you replaced it?

[fair gull]

more serviceable than macbooks and their lockout chips

[astral haven]

Have you serviced it yourself?

[fair gull]

yes

i also installed the rebug chip into my own switch

despite now not really needing it

should really remove that thing

[astral haven]

Ah so you are also a liar

Nice

[fair gull]

lol ya

am lying 100%

[astral haven]

You are either lying about it being serviceable or lying about replacing it yourself

Both can't be true

[fair gull]

yes its true i have no technical knowledge whatsoever

[astral haven]

Never said that

[fair gull]

how could smth where we know part numbers

be called serviceable

[astral haven]

IR3599

[fair gull]

smthsmth infineon

[astral haven]

Mps2888? I think too

[fair gull]

next thing u gonna tell me is the new iphone backglasses arent serviceable cause they are glued in completely

which id also completely disagree with

[astral haven]

We know part numbers, but they aren't replaceable
The 3599 is discontinued
And the mps is not sold without ndas

[fair gull]

and its still serviceable

[astral haven]

Anything that uses these parts cant be serviced any more

[fair gull]

u just buy smth else that uses the parts if need be

its not like u are handling the onky device

[astral haven]

Fam

[fair gull]

that has this particular part in it

and yet again this isnt even compareable cause the nand flashes are easily ordered

and idk how ud break the pcb for it

[astral haven]

Today they are

[fair gull]

uh yes

and in a few years people will prob have reversed it enough to just have completely custom solutions

wouldnt surprise me one bit

[astral haven]

Nand chips have limited lifetime
After that fab shuts down or get repurposed in 2-3 years it'll have to get a custom PCB manufactured...

Just because something is repairable doesn't mean it's serviceable

[fair gull]

yes it obviously is for the forseeable future

[astral haven]

When it requires more time, equipment, and money to repair a part than the manufacturer charges for the entire device, it's not serviceable

[fair gull]

if were talking about in 10years id also say theres prob enough devices that are broken otherwise which can donate parts

[fair gull]

assuming a fitting replacement is manufactured still

[astral haven]

As if a tlc? Nand flash chip will survive 10 years

Is it even tlc or is it qlc

Nah it's gotta be tlc

[fair gull]

slc

at least the replacement chips in 128gb and up are

unsure what the default chips are

[astral haven]

There aren't any 1024gbit slc chips...

Oops wrong reply

[fair gull]

so

sdinbda4-128g doesnt exist

good to know

or the datasheet lies

just overflew it and read slc

but i shall reread it rn

[astral haven]

Again repairable and serviceable imo are different

[astral haven]

There could be an mcp of slc chips, but I highly doubt that

[astral haven]

Yea all I see on the datasheet is emmc

[fair gull]

i mean the inand7550 does talk about slc and mouser whos the only authorized distributor also states slc

altho i do know some inand7550 chips are tlc

[astral haven]

It's technically possible for it to be slc
But that is one of the easiest ways to halve the price of a nand chip (dropping from SLC to tlc)

[fair gull]

i mean it does cost a pretty penny

[astral haven]

Yea because it's a nand chip with an integrated controller

[fair gull]

ya 92eur for 1

[astral haven]

It's more than an sd card

[fair gull]

ik

[astral haven]

I would eat a shoe if Nintendo is paying more than $30 for these in bulk

[fair gull]

bulk is a different thing and as i said idk about the default emmc installed

the replacements we know work are slc afaik

but to get back id call it serviceable cause rn i can service it

[astral haven]

You can repair it

Doesnt mean it's serviceable

Imo serviceable means more than repairable
Aka is able to be provided as a service

And that means it's gotta be cheaper than the original device

Hard drives for example aren't serviceable even tho they are repairable

Same deal with iPhone storage

Actually you know what I'm gonna change my mind
That's not repairable, that's restoreable as in restoration for historical purposes

[fair gull]

i mean id argue that repairing the emmc by replacing it is more expensive than a new switch

[astral haven]

Yea I've changed my mind, to call it a repair it's gotta be cheaper than the device itself
Otherwise it's a restoration (or upgrade)

[fair gull]

altho tbf

idk if id call the specific case of the switch (not the whole replacing nand thing) serviceable

cause if it was a working one

it wont ever go online after a nand replacement

[astral haven]

What?

[fair gull]

well unless a nand backup exists and another 32gb module is installed

the switch uses console certificates to connect to nintendos servers

each console has a unique cert

this is what gets banned incase u get banned

[astral haven]

Ye but you can steal it from a device with a broken screen from example?

[fair gull]

technically yes

but

then all the data is worthless

cause u dont have the encryption keys

all user data is encrypted to 1 console

[astral haven]

Wait so you can't actually swap the nand without a backup of the original chip?

[fair gull]

u can

but its either loose all data to get the broken console nand

[astral haven]

But the console doesn't work after you do that

[fair gull]

or start without being able to go online

[astral haven]

Jesus christ

[fair gull]

if u have a cert from a broken console nintendo cant tell if ur switch is the original owner or not

[astral haven]

Why are you arguing that this is serviceable or repairable?

[fair gull]

i just remembered this when i got home lol

bigger nands are a nono for online to begin with

since console logs would state it

and nintendo does actually do some form of checking on those

[astral haven]

But still even if it was swappable, I'm gonna argue that it's not repairable or serviceable, only restoreable

Right to repair calls for purchase able part to swap in with a manual stating how to do it

[fair gull]

i mean does this include desoldering and stuff tho

cause idk how easily for the avg user it has to be replaceable

[astral haven]

That's what the right to repair is for tho...

[fair gull]

ya but what if the manual says desolder thi part

and solder on any of these parts

i mean it would have parts that u can purchase

and tell you how to replace it

[astral haven]

If it can be done with equipment and time totaling less than the device then it's repairable, if not it's restoreable

iPhone screen is like $100 for a $400 device, and requires about $20 in tools and $5 at minimum wage

[fair gull]

is that the law tho

or how you define it

cause thats what company will cling to

the law

[astral haven]

It's the law for cars

[fair gull]

to the letter

no more or less

[astral haven]

Don't see why the law for electronic devices would be any different

Ok it doesn't exist yet, but the laws that already do exist are a pretty good basis

I think this is a language thing tbh

In America, repair and service are more about the person doing it rather than the action itself

[fair gull]

didnt they lobby super hard against right to repair

[astral haven]

Yup

But there's an executive order now

So things will change eventually

[fair gull]

oh?

ah wait i think i read that on a rossmann video

didnt watch it yet

[astral haven]

Military can't buy anything non repairable any more

[crisp granite]

fuck, and here I was going to manufacture new rifles to market and sell to the US military, and charge more for a new bolt than a brand new rifle

I guess I can't do that any more

[astral haven]

Probably won't but probably will be made from off the shelf encoders

Wish that gaming controllers would go the way of drone controllers

Hall effect 4 lyfe

Someone just needs to make a hall effect mouse switch and I'll be all hall effect

Or even just magnetic reed

Just something with magnets

[true quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-H-aJKhbX8.

[reef tundra]

get fucked, cry harder, im glad

[true quest]

only about 15 listings at the moment

[reef tundra]

its included in the total price and will be refundable

[reef patrol]

Part interest gauge, part pre-order numbers, part "anti-scalper"

But I agree - Pre-ordering something like this blind (and going through with it) is kind of weird.

But I figure with how long the pre-order queues are (Wooting anyone? hehehe), reviews should be out long before the reservation turns into a proper order.

[reef tundra]

You only pay the full price when they are shipping

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah I reserved for shits and giggles it's only 4€ that I already had in my Steam Wallet anyway and if reviews come in and it's pants I can just get that 4€ back into that wallet

[true quest]

much better than a full price preorder

[misty saffron]

4 euro is nothing

if you paid full price - sure, that'd be retarded

[zenith sonnet]

It's not a pre-order. It's a slot in the order queue

Same shit, but different 🤷

[astral haven]

It's basically a round of seed that also gives you the interest data

[zenith sonnet]

I might also resell mine, if I can get a good price
I got a very early slot

[astral haven]

I'm gonna decide when it releases if I actually want it or not

[zenith sonnet]

Well, I'm EU, I can return it within two weeks for a full refund, without needing a reason

[astral haven]

ATM I'm leaning towards no but i really like the idea of streaming on the go

[zenith sonnet]

Which really means, I need to proclaim intent to return it within two weeks, and then I get 4 weeks to actually ship it back

[astral haven]

Swap the emmc for a proper nvme and it should be a pretty sweet experience

[zenith sonnet]

I got the big model

[astral haven]

Glass is cool too

But uh
Meh

$550 for 512 vs $600 for 1tb I'll take the 1tb thanks lol

[zenith sonnet]

How much does Dell or whoever else has them sell their 2230 SSDs for?

As of right now, nobody sells them retail

[astral haven]

Meh eBay is fine

Dell always has a gigantic markup

[crisp granite]

$375.47 CAD from dell canada directly

[astral haven]

Oh yikes

[forest sphinx]

Apparently a lot of work has gone into making sure stick drift isn't an issue though

[crisp granite]

for a 1 TB model

doesn't even say if it's gen 3 or 4

so I'll assume 3

[forest sphinx]

weirdly stick drift is like, a somewhat new issue

[astral haven]

It's gen 3

No gen 4 2230s yet

[forest sphinx]

My xbox 360 wired controllers literally never have had that issue their entire life

[astral haven]

It's a minaturization thing I'm pretty sure

[empty wren]

How much you use them bud

[forest sphinx]

Yeah thats what I've heard

[forest sphinx]

When I first got them quite alot cause I was playing monhun and dark souls a lot on them

now not as much

Still though

[crisp granite]

hm, tbh, I was wondering if I should get this ITX mobo, saving myself good money at the cost of using a 2230 drive for OS and such

[forest sphinx]

Gamers nexus believes the 8 visible screws on the back of the unit bode well for repairability

but obviously they don't have a unit yet, so until then its a moot point to speculate

[crisp granite]

turns out it's literally cheaper to get a higher end ITX mobo with more 2280 M.2 slots

[astral haven]

Why

Also what board has a nvme type 2230 slot

[crisp granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral haven]

Remember wifi uses a different (incompatible) slot

[crisp granite]

I know

the 2230 SSD I saw was B+M key

so that shouldn't be an issue

it'll fit either

[astral haven]

Odd
What board?

[crisp granite]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550M-ITXac/index.asp#Specification

wifi comes in a 2230 B slot

but wifi is stupid, just use ethernet like a normal person with a desktop

save the slot for more storage

or...I'm really stupid and some slots don't do storage at all, despite fitting them

this was the board I was looking at and decided against, just because of the cost of 2230 SSDs

[astral haven]

That's not m

[crisp granite]

E key?

there's more than just B and M?????

[astral haven]

Ofc lmao

[reef tundra]

Wandering analog sticks are mostly because we are trying to minimise them so much. Little margins to let them wander and correct for. Temperature, magnetic fields around it and physical vibrations can affect the readings. Then autocalibration might get confused and fuck things up

[crisp granite]

bruh

welp

thanks for saving me the headache and self-hatred later down the line

[astral haven]

Wifi uses a 2 notch connector

[crisp granite]

if E key is both the B and M notches, it would work, right???

the drive in question

[astral haven]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08B3R5Y4G
Does this look like b+m to you lmao

[crisp granite]

wut

that is the fuckin' weirdest thing I've seen all week

[astral haven]

That's an adapter
From standard wifi to m key

[crisp granite]

👍

[astral haven]

From this https://youtu.be/AoNxDe1a-X8

I do wish to replicate this with optane 16gbs but uh
Holy mackerel it's so expensive wth

[empty wren]

@wheat plume

[wheat plume]

hmm?

[empty wren]

Look at the brightness slider

Transition

[wheat plume]

Funky af

[crisp granite]

welcome to canada

government works...sometimes

but definitely not this time

[crisp granite]

that's about right

you forgot to mention that the car they're sleeping in has had it's catalytic converter stolen

[reef tundra]

Thats why we let the government infight with inspection and regulation. Makes them do shit, the inspector might come by and court gets a better look at what you are doing.

[crisp granite]

it's worth at least one hit of meth

[ashen spindle]

https://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/53246-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-and-non-xt-launching-on-august-11th

so uh, gl grabbing the 10 cards that did not make it into laptops or a tesla lmao

well not really a paper launch as it's already out in the wild, more of a "paper availability change" I guess 😛

[empty wren]

Imagine

[young pecan]

Dude, wth is with Gigabyte and their VBIOS updating?

You go update VBIOS on any other card brand and it's great, but for whatever reason gigabyte has this stupid F1-28 thing where only certain F values work with specific BIOS files?

And it's, for whatever reason, not packaged into one little executable like Galax?

Literally Galax just gives you one exe for all of their 3070s and you click Y twice and you're done.

Wth, Gigabyte?

Literally braindead, Galax took 5 clicks.

Gigabyte requires you to use something like GPU-Z to find the F value so you can download the right version of the BIOS instead of having the program simply work by checking the values upon boot.

This is why Gigabyte is awful.

[astral haven]

Evga has it as a part of precision x1 now it's fantastic

[young pecan]

Oh very nice.

[astral haven]

god im so pissed at amd

the raid array on my server is faster than my raid array on my motherboard
OVER THE NETWORK

god this isnt even with rdma enabled

ok its not like faster faster but uh

yea its very close

[shadow minnow]

Why use raid when you get 3000 top speeds, when you can get that with one, even gen 3 ssd? Not even talking about gen 4.

[astral haven]

Because the theoretical perf of this raid is 7200 actual...

I had faith in amd making working raid

But no

2 way raid on vroc does 4500 easy

[shadow minnow]

My ssd could do 7000/6950… but it’s for little use without working mobo or cpu, still waiting for replacement of.

[astral haven]

Ye but your ssd is in the 100s for qd1

This SSD outside of raid does ~300

[shadow minnow]

Don’t think it’s just 100 but don’t remember tbh

[astral haven]

It's between 100 and 200

Bigger advantage tho is this is natively atomic

And these perf numbers are with caching off

[astral haven]

They would easily be at 7k if I enabled caching but that's cheating (like all these bs ssds nowdays)

I'm seriously considering getting a 5800x tbh

[shadow minnow]

I mean, but why not to enable it when it has basically no disadvantages. Does not help so much if you need to write down too much data, but still no reason not to enable it.

[astral haven]

Nah not that type of caching

Proper caching where it only had what can be written in avery short period of time

The problem is I lose my atomicity

Basically currently I'm power loss protected and if I enabled caching I wouldn't be

Not that windows knows I'm plped but whatever

[young pecan]

@astral haven Why actually do on board RAID?

You have servers for that kind of thing, why not repurpose one as a high speed NAS?

I see zero reason you can't push 10GB/s over the LAN with your setup.

[astral haven]

Ah yes lemme just boot from a high speed nas

[young pecan]

shrugs Why not?

You can do diskless boot.

[astral haven]

You obviously haven't done it yourself

[young pecan]

Clonedeploy exists, and while that's a pretty fuckin' niche use, it's technically doable.

[astral haven]

It's beyond problematic

[young pecan]

:P

Technically possible regardless.

I currently use Clonedeploy off a linux server for my crypto farm.

[astral haven]

Either way this raid should be outpacing my nic

[young pecan]

Technically it would work.

[astral haven]

So uh

[young pecan]

Mm.

[astral haven]

Like this would work just fine
If Intel fucking allowed you to raid 900p's on consumer boards

[young pecan]

Hardware RAID controller time, methinks?

[astral haven]

Ah yes let me just whip up an nvme raid controller

[young pecan]

I mean... technically it works.

Probably spending a couple hundred on one unless you find a good deal.

[astral haven]

Cheapest one is $400

[young pecan]

Maybe 600 for a halfway acceptable one.

[astral haven]

Anything cheaper is an hba

And actually
Anything more expensive is an hba too

It's literally just the highpoint

[young pecan]

Doesn't really matter if HBA if it's doing the compute on the card itself.

If you were going to just get a card for controlling the rest of the hardware via the board, yeah that's fucked.

[astral haven]

Hba means it's passing straight to the cpu

I do have a pcie hba in right now

[young pecan]

Hang on, gimmie a sec.

[astral haven]

Converts 3.0x8 into 4x 3.0x8

[young pecan]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/Accessories/HYPER-M-2-X16-CARD-V2/ I mean this silliness.

This would just run you back into the same issue.

[astral haven]

Technically x16 but my board tertiary slot is x8

[young pecan]

But if it's able to house the SSDs and do the compute needed it'd work.

[astral haven]

This is passive

[young pecan]

I know.

Hence why you'd need to spend quite a bit on something that works?

[astral haven]

The one I have is active already

Was $220 (now $270) and I can attach 8 nvme ssds

[young pecan]

Wait, so why were you making a RAID in the first place on the board?

[astral haven]

But
RAID is the problem
Nvme raid is always done on CPU in servers

[young pecan]

Was for boot drive, no?

[astral haven]

Yup

[young pecan]

But why?

[astral haven]

I wanted sequential to go along with my optane randoms

[young pecan]

Ah.

Was thinking you were trying some fancy backup scheme.

Mirrored RAID5 or something.

[astral haven]

And I'm already with this pretty meh setup loading in noticeably faster than my friends on normal nvme

[young pecan]

Idk, sometimes you see it on main systems. Not common.

[astral haven]

Thing is for raid 5 you have to trust your CPU more than your storage lmao

And uh
Between the CPU and the storage I'm gonna trust the storage in this system

[young pecan]

Which CPU?

[astral haven]

5950x

More accurately I don't trust agesa

Hardware is pog
Firmware is jank

God I really don't want to overclock my ram some more can I please hit 20k timespy without messing with CPU?

I know it's at 3200 but it won't boot anything higher even tho this is bdie

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-directstorage-also-coming-to-windows-10 I dont understand microsoft, they just keep shooting themselves in the foot to give people reasons to upgrade the OS

now you dont even need the latest win10 to get DS

[crimson wigeon]

Storage stack optimizations: On Windows 11, this consists of an upgraded OS storage stack that unlocks the full potential of DirectStorage, and on Windows 10, games will still benefit from the more efficient use of the legacy OS storage stack

Well, I'm sure people will do comparisons to see how much is gained from not using the legacy storage stack

[ashen spindle]

given they even made (for whatever unknown reason) some Dx12 titles work on Windows 7, I wouldn't be too surprised if it's basically the same result

[zenith sonnet]

Heck yes

They updated this again with proper info

And it's actually good

[crimson wigeon]

Excellent

[zenith sonnet]

So the old info was factually wrong (dual channel), and used DDR4 channel standards

[timid chasm]

ddr5 no shit

[zenith sonnet]

It always said DDR5 5500 MT/s

[timid chasm]

did not notice 100%

[zenith sonnet]

Then they added (dual channel) to "clarify", but with DDR5 that would have meant 32 bit or 64 bit memory interface, which people were rightfully suspicious about

[ashen spindle]

LPDDR5 is not DDR5

[zenith sonnet]

Now that's 88 GB/s theoretical bandwidth and should be sufficient for your little graphics chip

[timid chasm]

no shit

what a timeto be alive