🔌│tech

[young pecan]

Mate nah.

We gotta put a desktop CPU in there and run heat pipes across the touch screen.

👌

[empty wren]

Already annoying to touch hot phones

[young pecan]

Cursed laptop.

[empty wren]

Arm could do some heavy lifting though in a passively cooled configuration

Add in a metal chassis, heatpipes and a novel cooling methods could be quite amazing

Hell if it can be done well, the keyboard and trackpad could be fine to use even under heavy load

[astral haven]

Arm has nothing to do with it, watts are watts

You can use graphite sheets to send the heat around the hinge, and 25w disappated over the entire surface of a tablet would be just fine
You could even make it ridged to significantly increase the surface area

[astral haven]

Phones these days draw up to 10 watts in such a tiny size, it would be very easy to cool 25w in something 5 or 6x larger

[zenith sonnet]

@astral havenI had a fleeting thought earlier

Remember how almost every 5000 series review shows barely any to no differnce between the different SKUs, and often a random one being on top of the chart?

[astral haven]

yes?

[zenith sonnet]

What if they're almost all temperature limited?

Not power or frequency

[astral haven]

frequency is a function of temperature

and power is a way to control temperature

so uh

yes?

[reef tundra]

You are talking about quartz crystal clocks?

[zenith sonnet]

Yeap, yeap
I guess at temperatures of 70°C or more, all 4 clock just about equally high

[astral haven]

cpus

generally the 5950x and 5800x will clock slightly higher

with the 5600x coming right behind and the 5900x in last

but its really minor

all are between 5.05 and 4.95

[zenith sonnet]

I've seen reviews where the 5900X is the top ranking chip

[astral haven]

only times ive seen that were margin of error

[zenith sonnet]

Which makes no bloody sense

[astral haven]

and btw the cache per core of the 5900x is higher than the 5800x and 5950x

a 10t workload that doesnt care about cross core will run best on a 5900x in theory

[reef tundra]

High clockrates, need higher voltages to stay stable in their signal, which results in an exponential heat output as said voltage has to increase. Temperature would only be relevant if it engages its thermal trottling protection

[zenith sonnet]

Like this shit

[astral haven]

High clockrates, ~~need higher voltages to stay stable in their signal which results in an exponential heat output as said voltage has to increase. ~~ alot more complicated than that, Temperature would only be relevant if it engages its thermal trottling protection ryzen has a proper gpu style boost algorithm

[zenith sonnet]

The difference is beyond margin of error

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ cache per core and high cache requirement well threaded games will run better on the 5900x

also

silicon lottery is important with ryzen

also

usually these tech press folks dont pay much attention to subs

they look at the primary timings, see the same numbers and call it good

[zenith sonnet]

Can you rip the heat spreader off those without damaging them

[astral haven]

basically no

you can remove the dumb looking plastic bit

and the temps improve dramatically

btw

[zenith sonnet]

Barring that, what can I do to make them run cooler?

[astral haven]

remove the dumb plastic bit

thing is tho

[zenith sonnet]

You mean the light diffuser?

[astral haven]

heatspreaders are generally actually good for temps

yep

[zenith sonnet]

Of course they are

[astral haven]

Not neos but same difference

[zenith sonnet]

Looks like it opens up air channels for convection?

[astral haven]

yup

also allows the fins to uh
receive airflow

[zenith sonnet]

I would have liked to take them off and try a better TIM

[astral haven]

problem is its thermal adhesive

so uhhh

[zenith sonnet]

Maybe I should get a small fan for additional memory cooling

[astral haven]

just do that

40mm fits perfectly

[zenith sonnet]

The LEDs themselves seem to make no difference, though

[astral haven]

basically yea

[zenith sonnet]

But, before anything I'll wait and see if better fans lead to better case airflow :p

[astral haven]

that would be a very very odd situation for that not to be the case...

[zenith sonnet]

With my almost non-existant airflow they hit 58°C after an hour of HCI

Would like to get that under 50, at least

[astral haven]

oh geez

uh

hci hits almost 60???

imagine what an actual memory stress test would do...

[zenith sonnet]

Well, at 1.5V, that is

[astral haven]

meh

[zenith sonnet]

What would you use?

[astral haven]

problem is more hci vs uh

anything else

tm5
occt
karhu
anything large (p95 or occt)

my preference is occt since you can set it to stop on error

or on temp

sad part is its limited to an hour in free version

[zenith sonnet]

Oh, wait what

Da heck is dat?

Dat ain't right

[astral haven]

you unsynced fam

get that fixed rq

[zenith sonnet]

[astral haven]

[zenith sonnet]

An explanation for my shitty benchmark scores

Woop

At least I know it's stable :p

[old marlin]

you can get the heatspreaders off

by soaking it in the right chemical

now don't ask me which one to use

cause idk

[zenith sonnet]

Well, fixing that brought absolutely no measurable change in performance

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-gif-4496112

Maybe the US should actually begin to invest in their beyond repair infrastructure.. but that would be socialism.. because socialism is when the government does stuff and the more the government does the more socialist it becomes. When you have a whole lot of socialism you have communism. https://youtu.be/rgiC8YfytDw

[halcyon moss]

sweet jesus, the starlink dish eat more than 100watts

[crimson wigeon]

That means it's good

[halcyon moss]

that means it quite expensive to run 24/7

and hard to run of batteries

[crimson wigeon]

If you can't afford that you don't deserve its greatness

[halcyon moss]

but i have good cable at home. i dont want it

[timid chasm]

Well some of us have 2Mbps or worse at home waiting for us so we want it no matter the cost

[reef tundra]

Its not even economically viable he needs to draw like 100 million consumers which would be more than the network can service in the first place

Not to mention they pose a threat to any other space mission as they travel few km/s

[halcyon moss]

I don't have faith in starlink ever working really well and being profitable.

[old marlin]

eh

it seems to work fine actually

[halcyon moss]

AND being profitable

[old marlin]

well yea

doubt that as well

prob not too unlikely that they will sell the satellite network at some point

to some shit ISP

[halcyon moss]

you'd need some couple of 100's of ppl per satellite, so bandwidth goes to shit

[old marlin]

eh

does anyways atm

rn starlink is a better option for like 80% of germans

that get shitty dsl from the telekom

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/patrickschur_/status/1415254514677043205 well, seems like 170W might be the TDP number after all and not the actual PPT number

Patrick Schur (@patrickschur_)

The exact TDP numbers for Raphael are 65, 95, 105, 120 and 170 W.

Twitter · Jul 14, 2021, 10:19 AM

[old marlin]

[ashen spindle]

guess it could be for something with >16 cores

[old marlin]

interested in how much SC boost they will get

with that total TDP boost

[ashen spindle]

uhh, about 0 changes

5950x in single core sits around 50W or so

the tdp of 105 (142PPT) has not influence there

[old marlin]

it is rated for 105W TDP though

so there should be some huge performance bump somewhere

allows ~140W in reality

[ashen spindle]

yeah but it's rated for that because it has 16 cores lol

[old marlin]

even then a 30W bump is quite a bit

well yea

both are 16 cores

[ashen spindle]

not necessarily?

[old marlin]

unless they just made it same lcock but on all cores or something

5950X vs 6950X

both 16C

but 140W vs 170W

roughly

considering 170W is not TDP

but actual power draw at maximum

[ashen spindle]

uhm, no? we don't know for which part the 170W number is meant

could be for 24c

[old marlin]

I thought there would be no 24C

[ashen spindle]

and given the last tweet I posted I imagine these numbers to be TDP and not actual power draw(ppt) limits

so 170W tdp and idk, 200W ppt maybe

or it's a 16 core with other changes that dont directly affect sc, who knows

apu maybe?

[old marlin]

doubt it

could just be all core bump

most likely

so fastest core might clock the same or slightly higher

with the rest raised closer to it than before

[ashen spindle]

I'm inclined to believe it's an APU, we know Raphael is supposed to have integrated graphics

[old marlin]

might be possible with more developed manufacturing

[ashen spindle]

16c stays at 120W or what it was and 16c+ iGPU is 170w?

[old marlin]

could be

but I doubt they add an iGPU

[ashen spindle]

slide of it showing navi has been out for quite some time

[old marlin]

well

dotted line

might just be some pro lineup again

[ashen spindle]

🙄

[old marlin]

good joke

I get spotty 3G at home

the only place I regularly get 4G it is so slow that I can't even use discord properly

germany

[wheat plume]

I get 4G but its too slow to be 4G

[ashen spindle]

because we are all on 3g aside from next to the new towers but 3g is still getting cut off soon

[old marlin]

yup

will be fun

we are talking about the telekom here in most cases

[old marlin]

they will try to find their way to build it with the oldest in use technologoy

just to get paid to upgrade it 3 times

instead of doing it properly once

exactly how they did it with home connections

step 1: say fiber is not needed for home users in the 90s and put down more expensive copper

step 2: 20 years later that FTTH is not needed and do FTTC with vectoring, which is only a minor upgrade to the current DSL

step 3: say that you will do FTTH but only put down FTTH connections when other ISPs do, then complain that they make your new connections uncompetititve by having too good of a deal

only got paid by the state for all of those steps

oh yea they will totally not lie about that

like they did with 4G

supposedly most of germany has 4G

uhhh

not true

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah it will be 6g, just too bad in 90% of the area it only will have 4g features and speeds

[old marlin]

they should have never privatized the telekom

[ashen spindle]

nah that was fine, they just needed someone who understand tech as the regulator

[old marlin]

nah they have those

they just need politicians that listen to their experts

instead of money

which apparently is utopic

[ashen spindle]

not utopic, just Neuland

[old marlin]

lol

yea uhh

can't wait to see upload filters implemented

oh wait

experts said that it is impossible

so uhhh

can't wait to have discord with character limit

that filters out links

[ashen spindle]

can't upload "illegal" stuff if you just cut off upload and only allow download for people, clearly that would fix it!

[old marlin]

nothing limits you from splicing it

[ashen spindle]

nono, just have isps block ALL incoming traffic from users, only outgoing pakets

[reef tundra]

Doent matter how much they know how bad it is, the money talks way better

[ashen spindle]

no TCP, only UDP allowed

[old marlin]

yea wonder how much people will like it when muh facebook no workey

should have listened to experts when questioning if it was even possible

[reef tundra]

But lobbyist promised to bring them to dinner after they shut that down

[old marlin]

yea

and do a bunch of 9999 euro donations

and have them do paid lectures

but hey

[reef tundra]

He really loved to eat the most expensive item on the menu indeed

[old marlin]

with the new law politicians have to state if and how much they get in private donations

they have no restriction in how accurate the numbers are though

even with a VPN

if the recipient is in germany

[reef tundra]

vpns are mostly useless

[old marlin]

you basically get full surveillance

germany plans to supervise EVERY messenger

EVERY email provider

etc

stasi 2.0

e2e encrytption in the EU will be gone soon

or well

with security holes

which makes it useless

[reef tundra]

Btw they can force vpn providers to keep logs and send them to jail if they tell or warn about that

[old marlin]

yup

if the provider is in a 5/9/14 eye agreement country they are useless anyways

[reef tundra]

And everything gets nicely tunneled through one node

Tor is still able to anonymity your traffic from the isp, governments or other snooping agents. NSA list it as the greatest threat to being able to monitor everything

[old marlin]

not true

if some government just makes a LOT of exit nodes

they can basically take over the network

aka

what the US did

the US military does not care about drugs etc though\

just terrorism

point still stands

tor is not unbreechable

[reef tundra]

Eh, depends on how bored the prosecution is that day

And exit nodes mostly are a concern for server side

[old marlin]

yea, but not about end customers

[reef tundra]

And even after spending billions of dollars to enforce the war on drugs and the costs to incarcerate people. The goverment ends up with all the costs, burns the drugs and drug lord has more money than they can do with

and when those people get out they return to crime as they wont find a job with a record

[solar hinge]

the only public wifi available in germany 😄

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-juice-spin-pepojuicespin-juice-spin-peepo-spin-gif-19719206

[reef patrol]

Who uses public WiFi anyway.

[reef tundra]

ok

they are the most dangerous vehicle anyway

[wheat plume]

strip_plot1 = sns.stripplot(y = "column_1", 
                            x = "column_3",
                            hue = "column_1",
                            ax = ax1,
                            jitter = True,
                            dodge = True,
                            marker = 'o', 
                            alpha = 0.15,
                            color = 'red',
                            label = "Column 1")

strip_plot2 = sns.stripplot(y = "column_2", 
                            x = "column_3", 
                            hue = "column_2",
                            ax = ax2, 
                            jitter = True,
                            dodge = True,
                            marker = 'o',
                            alpha = 0.15,
                            color = 'blue',
                            label = "Column 2")

ax1.set_xlabel('Column 3')
ax1.set_ylabel('Column 1', color = 'r')
ax2.set_ylabel('Column 2', color = 'b')

ax1.legend(loc = "upper left")
ax2.legend(loc = "upper right")

plt.title("Column 1 / 2 vs Column 3")
plt.show()

Why the error telling me it Could not interpret input for column_3?? :-;

Seaborn python strip plot

[reef tundra]

what if you first give the x and then the y like the docs all do

[wheat plume]

The docs for this give the Y first

but I swapped them and get the same error

dally ride

[reef tundra]

Probably because you name two axis the same variable making it undefined behaviour?

[wheat plume]

huh?

[reef tundra]

Y axis uses colum but also the (hue)z axis is using the same parameter

[wheat plume]

yeh... it worked on my scatter plot

[ashen spindle]

are you sure that's right?

[wheat plume]

no

y = column_2

[reef tundra]

Also it seems you have done nothing with the end result the functions returned

[wheat plume]

usually it works just to call plt.show() to show the chart it made

[reef tundra]

If they can magically find that it has to show strip_plot1 and 2 there is no way for it do draw them

[wheat plume]

IDK why it cant find this column

I printed the columns its pulling and its matching fine

[reef tundra]

What if you dont define two axis to the same value and yeet it to see what changes

[solar hinge]

boomers

[reef patrol]

Those damn artillery using Nellis Airforce Boomers.

[solar hinge]

what the heck are you on :p

[reef patrol]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Boomers

[reef tundra]

Just give them a bomber airplane -- nothing can go wrong there

[reef patrol]

Also - Watching someone play New Vegas....and visiting the boomers. So the reference was obvious to me at the time xD

[reef tundra]

They have a nice assault rifle lying in their bunker

Remember to shoot the corrupt tyrant of the NCR

[crisp granite]

old farts with a shitload of heavy ordinance, what could go wrong?

all they want is a B-52 from the bottom of lake mead, power restored and a few other things

[wheat plume]

https://niccolo.venerandi.com/backstage/files/ownopacity/main.html
OO, blur testing page

[halcyon moss]

wat

[wheat plume]

I cant figure out this error .-.

[ashen spindle]

ah yes, this error

not that other one

[crisp granite]

oh no

not that error

is it the error, that does the thing it's not supposed to?

you know that one, quin

[wheat plume]

The one I posted earlier

Could not interpret input

[wheat plume]

This

[crisp granite]

I know absolutely nothing about coding, so I'll nope out of this

yep

truly nothing

I ain't a jack of all trades, chief

[reef tundra]

Then im assuming you do everything poorly and have overinflated ego

[crisp granite]

[reef tundra]

Makes what easy?

[crisp granite]

general use of the OS

navigating it is easy as pie

I can use it fine, without a lick of coding knowledge 👌

a 5 year old could make their way around the OS without a hitch, ffs

[reef tundra]

Lmao, untill you need to change the bitrate of your mic and the brain wont remember which menu contained the menu where you can do that

[crisp granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wheat plume]

I always fucking forget how to get to the networking DNS settings .-.

[reef tundra]

Linux uses a file in etc

[wheat plume]

or use the GUI

[reef tundra]

any text editor and you can go wild with how you want to do ip lookup

[wheat plume]

assuming you have a desktop

IDK if there is a GUI for that on a window manager only install

[reef tundra]

GUI? its a plain file mate

Could even do it with the shell alone

[wheat plume]

I installed Archcraft on my laptop last week

its so pretty <3 and has such nice themes by default you can switch between

it runs i3 or openbox

[reef tundra]

Pretty? The important part is that is not doing an nvidia

[wheat plume]

huh?

[reef tundra]

Did you know the nvidia proprietiery driver tells the game it is an AMD-GPU instead

[wheat plume]

o?

so, in the stats, they see all Linux players using an AMD GPU?

[crimson wigeon]

No it doesn't

[wheat plume]

I know for Minecraft it doesnt :')

[crimson wigeon]

It's just a common thing DXVK does because else games usually try to load nvapi which can be problematic

[reef tundra]

Where can I tell it to not do that so it can do raytracing in control

[crimson wigeon]

You need to enable DXR support for VKD3D (VKD3D_CONFIG=dxr in environment should do it) and something else I dunno I don't have raytracing capable hardware

[reef tundra]

rtx 2060 should do it. Metro exodus can do raytracing just fine

[halcyon moss]

you mean like this? https://docs.python.org/3/library/random.html#random.shuffle

[wheat plume]

I kmow it's in a lot of languages
But none of them other than ruby have ! at the end

[crimson wigeon]

Rust uses ! for macros

[wheat plume]

Idk what macros are in this context

[reef tundra]

preprocessor directives

[crimson wigeon]

Computer doesn't support Windows 11? Don't fret, you can simply stream it from the cloud! https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2021/07/14/introducing-a-new-era-of-hybrid-personal-computing-the-windows-365-cloud-pc/

[reef tundra]

So they want windows 11 to be anything but an OS? curios

Chrome as OS? hypers

[old marlin]

nothing new

just better integration

[crimson wigeon]

Perhaps

I wonder how viable it is for gaming

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-it-was-the-aliens-area51-im-not-saying-gif-15127938

[astral haven]

That would be an impressive project, coding a functional game in powerpoint

[reef patrol]

For sure. Good ole Myst being a grand example.

[reef tundra]

call of duty is a nice point and click game

[reef patrol]

[crisp granite]

*COD mobile

and yes, mouse and keyboard is the proper way to play that game

[reef tundra]

@young pecan Are you already aware about logan paul and his pump and dump scheme of a cryptocoin https://youtu.be/J8Eb_6VVCC0

[wheat plume]

I really dont know how much I like the new Android 12 icons

https://youtu.be/TdwMD1zRfaM

[reef tundra]

Yea, not gonna watch that video. My adhd wont like that at all

[wheat plume]

They added the ability for app backgrounds to adapt to a lighter shade of your accent color

[reef tundra]

Sounds like a lot of wasted cycles, for little usefullness?

[wheat plume]

and third party devs need to enable it in their app

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-congratulations-you-are-rescued-please-gif-17932648

[astral haven]

These sorts of things cost no CPU time
And I mean actually zero
The ooe engine in the CPU can have that sort of calculation happen in between other calculation threads

[wheat plume]

and it only needs to happen when you change accent color

which is usually never for most people

[reef tundra]

Ah its just setting the colours once and the gpu has to read that array or other data structure, and push it to the display, sounds about right? Like refering to the terminal colours

[empty wren]

Waiiiit beta 3 is out

[wheat plume]

ye boi

[empty wren]

Damn it why was Google not telling me this has been four hours. Thanks Lana.

[wheat plume]

o.o

[empty wren]

Google cards are more useless

One day I think there will only be a picture and no headline

[wheat plume]

LOL

[wheat plume]

Hmm....

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Microsoft
Too lazy to make a proper UI change

Well...the entire desktop environment is just the file explorer

So yeah .......

[young pecan]

Anything Logan or Jake Paul do must be considered sketchy nonsense and thrown away.

Once, never again.

[empty wren]

Wonder if dex2oat32 is like system32 maybe I should try deleting it... takes too much resources for it's own good

[empty wren]

My body is ready @wheat plume in 1hr and 30min

[wheat plume]

UwU

Why not restart now?

[empty wren]

I want to first not cause a system corruption

And flash the stock boot image, then boot up in the other side of the A/B system and finally reboot to flash magisk boot omage

[crisp granite]

delet OS, saves you the pain of your OS getting corrupted

because there is none

[empty wren]

I did that to my dad's phone

Screen displays nothing now

Do not worry it was a spare he got all his money back, and Chinese phones really need to use better component batches

[wheat plume]

reads in Xiaomi

[empty wren]

I mean not that lana

I mean like dogee

Or some other low selling crap

[wheat plume]

Oh
Doogee is shit xd

[empty wren]

Yeah

[wheat plume]

And m-horse

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-excuse-me-shocked-what-gif-14402529

[empty wren]

Sorry I meant doogee

[crisp granite]

a challenger approaches

[wheat plume]

I just love their is a phone with the name "Nut Pro"

Fully serious name

[empty wren]

Xiaomi is pretty great, they sell some items at close to production price

[wheat plume]

Not meme

[empty wren]

And sell other stuff to make money back for profit

[empty wren]

Hmm never heard of it

[empty wren]

Bruh

[crisp granite]

that's my business title

why are they slapping it on phones now?

[wheat plume]

Xd

[empty wren]

At least it is snapdragon though probably a low tier batch

One that could over heat eventually slowly with some balls

[wheat plume]

Imagine telling people your phone is the nut pro 2

And being serious

[empty wren]

Well least it has 2

Some people have 1

[wheat plume]

Yes cd

[empty wren]

For reasons...

[crisp granite]

😬

[empty wren]

My dad had two Doogee phones

Both sucked balls

[crisp granite]

don't talk about snapping twigs off the family tree

some people are sensitive to that kind of talk

[vapid zodiac]

can confirm, doogee lasted a year, which tbf was pretty good for the price of it

but was first phone so... yeah was a good reason for it to be cheap af

[empty wren]

Yeah I guess but consider this Poco phone costs a little.more or a Motorola phone

And will last a good while

[crisp granite]

Poco...solid phones ngl

[empty wren]

In fact even a used phone not everyone agrees would be grear

Yeah and they made by Xiaomi

Which again shows how consumer the company is

[young pecan]

That's kinda iffy isn't it?

[wheat plume]

Their software updates aren't always predictable

[young pecan]

Xiaomi was selling consumer data a while ago or something.

Idk, can't remember.

[wheat plume]

You may or many not get a particular update for your phone

[empty wren]

Honestly dumb they do not make as much money as keeping it

[wheat plume]

On their India and Chinese ROM

[empty wren]

Yeah probably

[young pecan]

Right yeah.

[empty wren]

EU is very strict

So this kind of behavior would severely penalize them

And I would think there are a lot of xiamomi buyers in EU

[wheat plume]

The privacy protection features are missing in the eu rom

Such as giving apps blank data
And telling you when an app uses camera and mic

Or removing metadata from images when you send them

[empty wren]

That is coming in android 12

[wheat plume]

The last two are

[young pecan]

I'm still just happy going with Apple phones. At very least the security is good and they won't just hand data over to people. Not exactly an award winning vote, but it's better than almost everything else I could daily run and keep my software suite. :L

[wheat plume]

Can't send apps blank data

[young pecan]

Just wish there was something I could run my suite on that actually has the really good data policy.

[empty wren]

I guess if you care for the apps and want to security features that have probably been there since day one will fair enough

Though iPhones are less secure then some android phones given how abundant iPhones are

[young pecan]

Say what you will about Apple, they really do not fuck around with consumer data.

Seems to be the one single thing they don't take prisoners on.

[empty wren]

They may share it in a very restricted to make a bit of money since some app do have advertising

But yeah they probably will never sell it and are very careful

They would not give the fbi a way to unlock a bombing suspects phone

[empty wren]

Surely an app could supplement that

Or you can make one and sell it

[astral haven]

No but they wouldn't patch the hole that the fbi uses these days lol

[young pecan]

@astral haven That hole got patched.

[astral haven]

The first one sure

[young pecan]

The FBI has been following the standard jailbreak stuff for more holes.

It's a neverending race.

[astral haven]

The one that appeared the day of

But uh

Last I checked the fbi has been using the same machines to get in

[young pecan]

No shit?

The methodology has changed quite a few times, however.

I still use a USB cable to gain root access to my various iphones, the hardware is still the same.

Just over time shit has changed.

[astral haven]

At least that's what an employee said at defcon
Just plug it into the machine and boot it,
An hour later you get the data

[young pecan]

Yee.

Iirc that machine is basically impossible to patch.

[astral haven]

That's why I said what I did

[young pecan]

Hardware exploit, unfixable on that generation, sadly.

[astral haven]

They will fix it in one of the next iPhones tho
Can't have a USB issue without a port 🤔

[young pecan]

shrugs If it's got an interface to the outside world it has an exploit.

Apple can't patch all of them, and I'm fine with that.

Gives me my jailbreak.

[astral haven]

Yeet the usb

Lol

Apple will do it mark my words

[young pecan]

Weirdly enough I'd be cool with that.

So long as it's not a compromise and the wireless shit doesn't cost the world.

[astral haven]

I'd be ok if they replaced it with a magnet

[young pecan]

^

[astral haven]

But they will replace it with wireless

[young pecan]

Either way I'm fine with it.

And I see exactly why they're doing it, too.

Imagine a phone that just doesn't have cracks in the body.

You'd have perfect environmental resistance.

What I don’t get is why Apple hasn’t pulled a powerplay for their Magic Mouse.

99% of the problem is you can’t charge it while you use it. Wireless bullshittery solves that.

[astral haven]

Problem is that uh
Best case wireless charging efficiency is in the 25% range

All iphones going wireless is actually a gigantic amount of power

It was like 2-3% of the American grid by one estimate
Instead of the .8% or whatever that iPhones currently are

The environmental aspect of removing the cable was entirely bs, but doing exactly the opposite the next year is even more bs

[empty wren]

That is a reason why someone can jailbreak well crooks in this case

[latent mural]

can you help me with wooting?

[empty wren]

First of all what exactly?

[latent mural]

im in fortnite, and I have everything done like evrything I need, and I literally just cant move..

like ive tried everything

[empty wren]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[latent mural]

ive been waiting in there for 40 mins

[astral haven]

You have no idea how little effort it would require apple to allow a form of jailbreaking that has no security issues for someone who isn't jailbroken

[young pecan]

^

That.

Hell, apple could allow sideloading apps into containers and simply have features like Winterboard or whatever it is these days as stock.

90% of people jailbreaking would immediately have no reason for it anymore.

[empty wren]

i know about containers in fact android is gonna start using them more

[empty wren]

Could they not just make developer devices available to the public

[reef tundra]

NSA probably has enough vurnabilities in their database to get into any device

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-got-time-for-that-a-intnobody-got-time-for-that-no-time-for-that-nope-no-gif-10243842

and become easy to notice for being too abnormal

A phone is a need in todays world

If you become homeless and dont have a phone nowadays you are fucked.

[empty wren]

Finally scrolling screenshot

[zenith sonnet]

https://i.redd.it/kdrmo6rz56b71.jpg

Dayum

[astral haven]

you?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328891236918493184/817839160759943178/PXL_20210306_192010931.jpg

this is the best ive seen from someone trustworthy

[zenith sonnet]

Not mine

It's EVGA

[astral haven]

aha

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, some marketing material or something

Still a nice mem OC

But why did they use an older AIDA version?

[astral haven]

extremely nice bandwidth

probably what they had lying around lmao

[zenith sonnet]

5 GHz memory on a 5600G

[astral haven]

yea thats pretty normal tbh

those timings mean micron not bdie

so it doesnt appear to be magic

if it can beat the unify-x that would be pog

first x570 oc board

the b550s so far have been better oc boards lol

[zenith sonnet]

RDNA3 won't be until 2h 22, right?

[astral haven]

current rumor

[zenith sonnet]

Huh

Then I might just wait

Otherwise I'd see if I can get my hands on the XTXH + 18 Gbps silicon

[steep verge]

guys i cant get wooting software to work pls help

hello pls help

pls i beg u

@hearty lake pls help

[hearty lake]

1.) Dont ping someone
2.) Wrong Channel #archived_fortnite_double_movement
3.) No time sorry

[steep verge]

k soory

no i play fortnite

somebody come to fortnite help vc

ok come to fortnite help vc

bro no one help 😦

[young pecan]

@prisma crag Mate listen.

OG plants vs zombies was pog af.

We all know that game is for champions. Winter Melon OP.

[reef tundra]

ok boomer

[young pecan]

[reef tundra]

Next stop is Nuremburg then. Better late than never

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/Bullsh1t_buster/status/1415459621628571650 that does sounds like even with zen3d, intel might have very competitive offerings till zen4 again nice, competition

Bullsh1t_Buster (@Bullsh1t_buster)

i9-12900K: 5.3/3.9GHz (ST)
5.0/3.7GHz (AC)
30MB L3

i7-12700K: 5.0/3.8GHz (ST)
4.7/3.6GHz (AC)
25MB L3

i5-12600K: 4.9/3.6GHz (ST)
4.5/3.4GHz (AC)
20MB L3

All SKUs are 125W TDP and 228W PL2.

Twitter · Jul 14, 2021, 11:54 PM

well, ignoring yields and such

[halcyon moss]

competition benefits the end consumer

[ashen spindle]

[reef tundra]

Specs are a non-issue if there is no supply. Its like having a girlfriend but goes to another school. The TI-84 will never go away and will play doom at a framerate with a baren level but still it will draw illegal graphs for you :-)

[ashen spindle]

having "best" options to switch between companies every year/half year would be quite good

[reef tundra]

btw how does someone disable test mode it drains the battery ree

[vapid zodiac]

its also worth noting that due to ipc improvements, and them not being equal, a clocks to clocks comparison is not very representative of actual relative performance

[ashen spindle]

sure, but we know rough ipc numbers already and the issue with 10nm chips so far was limited clock frequencies

so them being able to get to >5.0ghz is a good sign, not comparing it to amd's clocks

[reef tundra]

Clock rates tell nothing about the absolute performance

[halcyon moss]

no, but it can give a good indication

[reef tundra]

If you manage to get an approximation what it can get done in a cycle. Which is ...

[halcyon moss]

ipc, but if you can base it of a previous generation.. then it can

[reef tundra]

Whatever it turns out able to achieve just dont let those angry pixies escape

[halcyon moss]

or the magi smoke

[reef tundra]

and they will take the magic when leaving. And will never come back

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/wuGzGEvL1bQ

[reef tundra]

The one for you has the feature of being free?

[halcyon moss]

pinephone? :p

[wheat plume]

A lot of Xiaomi phones have the last 3 points

[reef tundra]

3.5mm plugs are terrible when you have to plug and unplug a lot. to be fair

[empty wren]

Use a banana then

[halcyon moss]

i miss my 3.5mm jack 😦

[reef tundra]

I would be fine with two usb-c ports

[empty wren]

Asus rog phone

[halcyon moss]

no, still wouldn't

not expensive, but do need charging

[empty wren]

There are still phones with headphone jacks and lucky they are not the expensive ones

For the most part

[reef tundra]

Gamer gear is overpriced and marketing wank. so it better beat that market trend

[empty wren]

USB c headphones exist

[empty wren]

One phone had a fan built in

[halcyon moss]

do they? do they practically?

[empty wren]

Yes if you are not happy there are dacs ones can buy

[halcyon moss]

lol

[empty wren]

And those can allow 3.5mm Jacks too

So better audio overall

[halcyon moss]

unless its a tiny dongle, if have one of those. still preffer audio from a jack in the phone

[reef tundra]

im sorry but if you need active cooling to have a portable browser and nsfw machine its just overengineered or it better list it as a feature. handwarmer or something

[empty wren]

There are dongles

If you really to be cheap

[reef tundra]

You tend to not want to carry power and audio over the same copper

[empty wren]

Usually should come with the phone unless Apple got to the oem

[reef tundra]

But they are very brave for doing that. indeed

[empty wren]

Yeah not that many options so fair enough

OnePlus sells some and I think there some higher end ones on Amzon

[reef tundra]

Apple wont talk to those

[empty wren]

Being brave to be a dick to the consumer

[halcyon moss]

apparently the apple one is cheap and real good.

and.. available

[reef tundra]

Because they only allow their own serialised ones to work

[empty wren]

Is it USB c or lightning?

[halcyon moss]

usb c

[empty wren]

Oh okay not a bad option then

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/EphzX3SKi10

[reef tundra]

past tense

[wheat plume]

right?

idk why

He is secretly a time traveller, he already has the release of Android 12 on his Pixel

[reef tundra]

Maybe because they dont love it anymore. I dunno. Dont know all the rando reviewers out there

[wheat plume]

Hell of a lot better than Beta 2 for sure

[reef tundra]

Is it? it better be, or it would be false advertisement to call it an upgrade. Update would still be true.

[wheat plume]

new icon options, new accent color options, can disable the corner swipe for Assistant, one handed mode, scrolling screenshots (not all apps are ready), Swipe down the gesture bar for one handed mode OR notification / QS shade

[reef tundra]

But does it do phone stuff

[wheat plume]

OO, it can change the app icons to an outline style that follows your accent color

[empty wren]

Really wish I could change the secondary or accent color more

[wheat plume]

You can choose from 4 pallets now based on the wallpaper

Yes

[old marlin]

have I heard pallets?

[empty wren]

Yeah but really are limiting what I could do like no status bar icons and no fonts either

[reef tundra]

When common sense of using a variable is too much to ask so you make some complex system that analyses the image and has to guess 4 good options to allow the user to choose from

[empty wren]

:S

[reef patrol]

Did someone say palette?

[young pecan]

Dw bois, you can reverse that if you want.

[young pecan]

Here’s the tool to fix a colour job you don’t like.

[empty wren]

Hah I wish I could use the roller

[reef tundra]

Exterminatus? Not sure if someone metioned it but just to be sure the planet has been deleted from existance

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/YY1Db-opAvo

[wheat plume]

Oh yeah xd
I loved that video

[reef tundra]

Apple wave better feature. google fans? rekt

[wheat plume]

There was one occurrence of me about to take a screenshot to show someone how badly my screen on my last phone was cracked

And then after I took it I was just like "Oh wait... This won't work"

[empty wren]

🤣

[wheat plume]

Xd

[reef tundra]

Tried to turn it off and on again?

[wheat plume]

It would be an interesting world where the software knew if and how the screen was shattered so it could show it in screenshots :')

Every screenshot you get from an iphone user would be shattered

[reef tundra]

It can, with cameras

[halcyon moss]

i kinda wish google wave got better instead of getting cancelled

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it was the FUTURE

[halcyon moss]

(yes it still around in apache etc)

[wheat plume]

A camera on another phone xd

[halcyon moss]

((oh no its still dead))

[reef tundra]

And use that camera on another phone to figure out how to best recreate it in software and keep using the result every time you need to screenshot again

[wheat plume]

WTF

They made it ugly AF in Beta 3......

[reef tundra]

But bigger number

[empty wren]

Broken

Glitch bug poop

[wheat plume]

I usually dont but this is worse than anything ive seen from google

the G logo being so close the left side reminds me of the UI for the notifications in MIUI 12

before 12.5 came along and fixed it

[empty wren]

f word, my cable died

guess it was time anyways, two years ago i had to bend it to charge my phone when in class, it also accumalted a lot of mold

[crisp granite]

just say "F*ck", Thel

[empty wren]

police

[crisp granite]

we're all grown adults here

[empty wren]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[crisp granite]

except for the fortniters

🤮

[empty wren]

doge

[crisp granite]

mmm

yes?

[young pecan]

[crisp granite]

that is a familiar face

yes

[young pecan]

Do adults playing fortnite count as adults or kids?

[crisp granite]

I saw him outside trying to root through my trash

didn't know he was on this server as well

[empty wren]

yes and he likes balls

XD

[crisp granite]

[crisp granite]

depends on how they carry themselves tbh

[young pecan]

Ninja.

[empty wren]

man at least Pincus honestly steals from stores more class

[young pecan]

Is Ninja a child or no?

[crisp granite]

not at all, completely stupid little shits

children

[reef patrol]

Mentally or physically?

[young pecan]

Yes?

[empty wren]

he is an adult physically

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

XD

[young pecan]

He looks like he has babyface, kinda.

Weird babyface.

[crisp granite]

mansen pressed the button, my dudes

you know what that means!

[reef patrol]

I mind Ninja less than... uhh... that three letter guy who was an Overwatch pro till he said some racist shit? The MONKE' dude who bashes his table.

xQc*

[young pecan]

Mate, mate, mate.

[empty wren]

yeah he is quite an animal

[young pecan]

xQC is a fuckin' idiot.

[crisp granite]

agreed

wholeheartedly

[young pecan]

Nothing racist he says is a problem, his IQ can't lift up a lopsided table.

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w53oh5DJ9oQ

[empty wren]

3080 juicer

XD

[young pecan]

You seen his PC build attempt?

Fuck, omg.

I have never seen a sadder attempt at anything ever.

IT IS ADULT LEGO, MORON.

PUT THE THINGOS TOGETHER, IT'S NOT HARD.

[crisp granite]

easier than that

[empty wren]

shh he probably choked on legos as an adult

[reef patrol]

"Is XQC an instrument?"

[crisp granite]

all the pieces only fit together one fucking way

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[reef patrol]

[young pecan]

^

Like bruh, the RAM CANNOT go anywhere other than a DIMM slot.

Does not fit at all.

[crisp granite]

with lego, they can fit together in a bazillion different ways

with a graphics card...3 slots at most

and you should be using the top one

🙄

[empty wren]

wait Mansen has 5g

[young pecan]

Bruh, he's got superpowers.

[crisp granite]

Mansen has Corona cell service?

[empty wren]

quick Mansen hop into the car and drive it with AI

[crisp granite]

wut?

[young pecan]

Radjawave Man, that can be his superhero name.

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

👌

[reef patrol]

AFFIRMATE - MY FIRMWARE HAS BEEN UPDATED

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

His power? Terrifies all pseudoscience idiots in a 2 kilometre radius.

[crisp granite]

Mansen's evolution

he's no longer some cringe basic pokemon

he's a stage one

👌

[empty wren]

xqc is a psyduck compared to mansen😂

[young pecan]

I feel like he's gotta be playing it up, no?

There's no way he's really that stupid.

[empty wren]

i hope so

[crisp granite]

Mansen is a Porygon-Z at this point

[young pecan]

Idk if one could live past the age of 3 with an IQ so low.

Like...

How did he not just get hit by a car or something eventually?

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/ZOb8Rb1cLV8

[empty wren]

he may have some parents that never let him outside

[crisp granite]

um...

I don't even think this guy got to the point of legally being able to drop out of school here

[young pecan]

But he has to be playing it up...?

It can't be genuine...?

[empty wren]

because he was never allowed in school🤣, not even to look at the property

[reef tundra]

You just dont get it. to be fair you need a high iq to understand... pickle rick.. words... words... words... .docx

[empty wren]

.docx huh

[young pecan]

[crisp granite]

.docx, sounds proprietary AF

[empty wren]

it is

[young pecan]

It kinda is.

[empty wren]

it is the new office 365 word format

[crisp granite]

just use openoffice XML like a non jackass

[empty wren]

not that new

[crisp granite]

🙄

[young pecan]

A LOT of stuff can read it, even outdated legacy shit.

[empty wren]

but l think either 2013 or 2016

[reef tundra]

Its an open standard

[young pecan]

^

Prop, but only in the sense that MS made it.

But it's free to use.

[reef tundra]

Specifications has been fully publicised for the international standard

[empty wren]

docx is pretty good even if not everything works everywhere

you can pass it to documents if you want to

but 3d model will not work

or some other cool features

[reef tundra]

Its pretty much xml but more stuff

[empty wren]

basically

also this nice and black word

or dark i should say

[crisp granite]

👌

ngl, very...dark

[empty wren]

without have inverse defects of darkness extensions'=

[crisp granite]

not gonna fry retinas

[ashen spindle]

I have my libre office set up like that for years with no external plugins..

[young pecan]

LibreOffice. <3

[empty wren]

oh this is native
or now it is

also office just has this smooth cursor movement it is so nice

think there is even a iphone jailbreak tweak that mimics it

[reef tundra]

ni||ger|| for the latin speaking crowd. ater if you are disrespectfull

[empty wren]

what 😂, so random

[reef tundra]

to say the subject is black in latin

[empty wren]

oh

just say ||nigus||

[reef tundra]

But what if they are not a king yet?

[crisp granite]

I wanted to import one

[empty wren]

Maybe ebay has some

[crisp granite]

I guess there is always gunbroker

[empty wren]

Black market exists too

[crisp granite]

no

legitimate ownership is the only way for me

I'm gonna be arrested for white-collar crimes if anything

[empty wren]

Ah you are right the impound is not fun

[reef tundra]

But they can get you kalashes for like 100dollars

[empty wren]

how about a tank

[reef tundra]

Probably have to go with legitimate methods or some engineeringteam

Too little demand for illegal tanks to even be supply for

[empty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/homero-simpson-out-d-oh-gif-15451551

[pale sigil]

my mates internet is so slow

😦

[crisp granite]

that's like triple the download speed I get

[pale sigil]

slower than me grandma

[wheat plume]

Thats more than average speed for me

[pale sigil]

Ye but you live in the middle of nowhere

[wheat plume]

i still have full LTE+ signal xd

LTE is just slow as shit in Ireland

[chrome estuary]

Slow?!

That's SEVEN times the speed I get

[wheat plume]

yeah but I see people do speed tests in America using LTE and they get like 30Mb/s

or more

and then 5G is like 150MB/s

[chrome estuary]

That sounds bout right for my area.

That I work. I don't get a signal at home

[wheat plume]

ahhh

and your carrier plan

My sister's plan slows her down to under 1MB/s after she uses 5GB data per month

but the plan is "unlimited data"

[crimson wigeon]

And congestion

[wheat plume]

nah

not congestion

even in the middle of town

its slow af after 5gb

[crimson wigeon]

Yarp

[wheat plume]

I know

Yeah

but shes put down to < 1MB/s on purpose

5GB of high speed data and the rest is slow af

This is one thing I hate about America

just how shitty the carriers are

At least in Ireland, they keep you at full speed the whole time on their plans

Ive once used 300GB data one time and no slow downs

That one time was an exception..... xd

Cause I had to redownload all my shit

[halcyon moss]

thats my current speed

[pale sigil]

🐌

[halcyon moss]

ive been looking to upgrade :p but i'd loose mty static ip or pay waaay more

[pale sigil]

makes sense

[zenith sonnet]

I'm glad I haven't had to deal with poor Internet speeds since well over a decade, almost two now I think

[halcyon moss]

i mean, this is not poor, i can max it out almost all the time. but its not great either :p

[chrome estuary]

I'd kill for faster speed. Hell even 5mb/s would be amazing

[crimson wigeon]

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Effects/FidelityFX-FSR
It's here...
Now, smart people, add it to everything

[ashen spindle]

unity already posted its coming to the next update which should be soon

ngl that is a lot less code than I expected

then again it's probably optimized to deatch so this might as well be how it would look like in assembly almost lmao

https://www.steamdeck.com/en/tech

van gogh lives!

[crisp granite]

very nutworthy

[crimson wigeon]

oh
I first read it as Stream Deck and was like whut

[crisp granite]

ngl, I kinda want one

[crimson wigeon]

Me too, for the memes

[crisp granite]

I want to give my sister smug looks while I play the outer worlds at 60 FPS on a handheld

for that purpose, it will do

[crimson wigeon]

The real Switch Pro pepelaugh

[wheat plume]

O.o Interesting

Can use iPhone to type on Watch

[ashen spindle]

definitely gonna check the pull requests on that for the next few weeks haha

[reef tundra]

ok? not sure why posted it.

[misty saffron]

poor gpd

[ashen spindle]

my god I had to google that because I didnt even know what that is haha

yeah that is fucked

[misty saffron]

it’d make sense for valve to come up with some sort of a standard for those imo

kinda disappointing tbh

BTW

[ashen spindle]

can't really do more with the specs of the SoC

and you dont want to slap a gigantic power brick onto it either

[crimson wigeon]

Next generation of I use Arch btw users incoming

[ashen spindle]

oh god

[misty saffron]

nobody forces them to use full res in games really

[crisp granite]

hi there

[crimson wigeon]

FSR

[crisp granite]

👋

[crimson wigeon]

pepega

[misty saffron]

a 4k display would be too much to ask for but at least 1080p would definitely be much better for youtube and shit

weird choice of res

[crimson wigeon]

Anti-tamper / DRM: In general we don't recommend use of such solutions across any PC platforms, for best disk usage and performance results. They are fully functional in the Wine environment once supported, but can add significant latency to supporting a new title.
pepelaugh RE8 ecks dee

[ashen spindle]

well it's not a console supposed to be for multimedia use aka youtube

[crisp granite]

that reminds me

can anyone hook a brother up with the DRM-less RE8?

[misty saffron]

should i dump the bucket of nintendo switch users’ tears on you?

they begged for youtube app for years

[crisp granite]

just got it a few days ago but not gonna play the steam version if it's inferior performance-wise

[misty saffron]

pretty clear steam always was against shit like denuvo

[ashen spindle]

sure but the more you try to make it general purpose again the more you need to compromise elsewhere

and hardware isn't there yet that can do it all in 10W

[misty saffron]

they have their own drm and it’s anything but intrusive

[crimson wigeon]

Anti-cheat: We recommend using user-space anti-cheat components for best results, as they can typically run in the Wine environment and provide the same level of functionality. Kernel-space solutions are not currently supported and are not recommended. We have been working with most anti-cheat technology providers to provide Proton compatibility. If your solution currently isn't working, please reach out to both your vendor and Valve for support.
pepelaugh

[misty saffron]

eh, fair enough

[crisp granite]

delta fan on your handheld smh

do it right or don't do it

[misty saffron]

i wonder if bastian told valve he logs active udp connections so proton should support that

[ashen spindle]

liquid cooled (blood cooled) handheld incoming

[crisp granite]

[misty saffron]

bastian suter would make a great person to advocate for privacy

[crisp granite]

BLOOD FOR my handheld THE BLOOD GODS!!!

ngl though, kinda smart to use the human body to dissipate low wattage heat loads

we already do a decent job of it

[zenith sonnet]

So a Switch, but actually good?

[misty saffron]

a chinese tarkov cheat dev added me to buy cheat feature code for $500

lmao

[ashen spindle]

what a deal

[crisp granite]

...it's worth way more than that

like...at least 10-20 times that

[misty saffron]

a feature that’s 3 lines long?

right

[ashen spindle]

ofc not lol do you want it to start at 750?

this is what a good devkit looks like for future versions

[misty saffron]

wonder what ssds they're gonna use

probably seagate

[ashen spindle]

oh god

this is cursed

[crimson wigeon]

kekw

[reef patrol]

Yep. I commented on it immediately.

And people are going batshit over the Switch comparisons. Which I find hilarious.

[zenith sonnet]

What's the problem there?

Looks fine to me

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-so-good-at-trolling-kenny-sebastian-simple-ken-podcast-internet-troll-online-joker-gif-18783304

[reef tundra]

The Chinese, Korean, Japanese really pay for the cheats. Something something honour, blah blah they need to show they are the best and willing to pay a high premium for it

[zenith sonnet]

You think Valve of all things would manufacture a console without testing it?

It probably works just fine

[reef patrol]

I don't really care if they tested it for aeons or not. It's a button that isn't flush with the rest. I'm going to feel it 😄

[reef tundra]

They made the steam controller

[reef patrol]

Also... yeah that 😄

[reef tundra]

so they got the talent and years of testing and a ton of user data

[zenith sonnet]

It looks flush to me

[reef patrol]

The side isn't.

[zenith sonnet]

The height of the button seems the same to me

[empty wren]

He is lucky two fingers do not fit through the portals

[reef patrol]

I still haven't commented on that though.

[reef tundra]

and Rome got sacked 7 times

Those were barely available I remember

[misty saffron]

TIL

[astral haven]

I heard nothing but rave reviews, and it got updates in 2020 at least dunno any more

[empty wren]

Hmm guess it is stable now

[misty saffron]

tf is up with the font rendering there

[reef tundra]

They are an indie developer dont worry m7

[empty wren]

You can delete windows updater

If you really want to

[empty wren]

Aliasing

[reef tundra]

Delete system32 aswell while you are at it xd

[empty wren]

Yeah takes up to much space

[old marlin]

yo

wtf

the steam deck looks dope

[crisp granite]

IKR!!!

[old marlin]

64gb a bit little

but if you pay for 256 you might as well up it another time

[reef tundra]

Cheap, shit G, few years ago

[old marlin]

I mean

lowest settings and reduced res is enough for on the go