🔌│tech

[young pecan]

:)

[wheat plume]

nah

not that xd

[young pecan]

:D

[wheat plume]

YES

[young pecan]

EXACTLY!

[wheat plume]

I noticed the pro controller is slightly transparent at the center

[young pecan]

All I want is transparent PC stuff.

Transparent keyboard shell, pls.

Mouse.

[wheat plume]

Transparent PC case, EXPOSE your shitty cable management!

[young pecan]

Transparent case. YES!

Custom length cables.

[wheat plume]

yeh xd

[young pecan]

Run metal tubes.

[wheat plume]

ooo

[young pecan]

Oh it'd look tasty.

[wheat plume]

thats an idea

[old marlin]

have I heard transparent electronics?

[young pecan]

Have the new EK reactive coolant and just have a massive fuck off res lit up with RGB.

Yes! You did!

[reef tundra]

Just trust the random guy in the internet gave you actual transparent stuff. Cant be a scam... i hope

[old marlin]

lol

I can get more transparent mice out

still have 2 more

[young pecan]

Yesss!

[reef tundra]

Cant even feel its there technology™️

[young pecan]

Hmm. What casing does the Two HE use?

I wanna do a transparent keyboard build now.

[reef tundra]

Plastique

[young pecan]

I mean in size.

[reef tundra]

If you mean the cad files check github

[young pecan]

Isn't the Two HE a full sized board?

[ashen spindle]

two he is same as lekker aside from color

[old marlin]

actually have rgb off on one of them

[reef tundra]

RGBWEEEEE

[young pecan]

Oh wait wot? Wooting 3 on the site?

[dry tendon]

Two HE has a worse cable and slightly lower quality keycaps but its otherwise a Lekker with a different colour scheme

[reef tundra]

Send Rtx 3090 or it didnt happen

[old marlin]

og two cable best

ngl

[young pecan]

This is my first foray into custom keyboards, so anything will be great. :D

[dry tendon]

I am so far very happy with the Lekker keyboard. I posted my review on the store for it.

[reef tundra]

You did what????

how dare you

[old marlin]

will try HE400is soon

in comparison to HD6XX

listening to more rap recently

[reef tundra]

that will tell others how great it is

[old marlin]

might be more enjoyable with those

[dry tendon]

I gave it a 4/5 due to QC issues. But that is VERY high

to me

[reef tundra]

I give it a 10/Im biased and i dont care

[wheat plume]

thats so holey, I fear it might start reading the bible to me

[old marlin]

most of the touched areas have no holes

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[old marlin]

but RJN is

[reef tundra]

Dont worry prayer to satan a day keeps the sinners away

[wheat plume]

lol

[old marlin]

so right side holes are still under my fingers

[young pecan]

Oii! Pog!

25k more for the crypto farm!

[wheat plume]

O.o

[young pecan]

e x p a n d f a r m

[wheat plume]

25K freaking hell

[young pecan]

45k in so far. :)

[wheat plume]

O.o

thats going to take years to earn back

[young pecan]

And we have a guaranteed repeat investor, he tossed in 5k for now, but I have a discussion with him on the weekend, might do far more.

[reef tundra]

Imagine putting all your investment into one thing

[young pecan]

And nah, should only take me about a year.

Sometime soon I'll be something like 120k in debt.

Idk, at this stage it's high enough that any extra doesn't matter at all.

[ashen spindle]

embracing the true american lifestyle

[reef tundra]

Sounds like a great way to finanially ruin oneself

[young pecan]

Maybe if I didn't have a fallback plan.

[ashen spindle]

No Debt No Life - America

[crisp granite]

nope

[reef tundra]

Rich parents - checkmate communists

[crisp granite]

just some nasty compact board

[dry tendon]

Wooting Project V or something is the next keyboard

[reef tundra]

Or is it?

[crisp granite]

which I'm already calling as 5 rows of keys

no F row

[young pecan]

Not purely my business.

Roommate owns half of our business.

[reef tundra]

Share the fun around

[latent mural]

hi. I am sure that this has been asked before but will there be double movement for mac through wooting app soon? I play geforce now on mac and I know u can use wooting app for geforce now on pc

[ashen spindle]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[latent mural]

oh ok

sorry

[reef tundra]

Did tim apple do something?

[latent mural]

no

[cursive summit]

https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/hwinfo-v7-05-4495-beta-released.7406/

Added per-core temperature monitoring for AMD Zen CPUs

Nice stuff

[reef tundra]

But why would you need per-core temperature? You cool the entire chip at once.

[cursive summit]

Maybe measuring cooler mounting pressure levels?

If certain cores are hotter than others

I know Gamers Nexus been recently measuring mounting pressure

[reef tundra]

So to spread the heat as much uniformly?

[latent mural]

hi. I have (tech talk)

this is regarding wine bottler

does anyone know what that is

[cursive summit]

A what

[latent mural]

wine bottler

[ashen spindle]

the mac variant of wine for linux?

[latent mural]

indeed

[reef tundra]

is it about drinkable wine?

[latent mural]

@reef tundra no

😭

but

its an application

for exe to app

[cursive summit]

Why did you even say "bottler"

That confused my soul

[wheat plume]

Cause its called that

[reef tundra]

To bottle the pain

[dry tendon]

WineBottler packages Windows-based programs snugly into OS X app-bundles. No need to install emulators or operating systems.

[latent mural]

I am just confused about why its not apple to make wootingapp into a app

it is having an error

[reef patrol]

Why would Apple have any interest in that?

[cursive summit]

More colloquially it's just called Wine, no?

[ashen spindle]

no because wine is something else

[crisp granite]

at the risk of seeming like a mean person

[reef tundra]

I believe its pretty specific behaviour to windows its using

[reef patrol]

This is the main challenge, yes.

[crisp granite]

I've already addressed the mac support issue for the double movement app, no?

[latent mural]

yea

I was more curious

bc I could turn window's epic games launcher into an app

as well

and like other exes into apps

[reef patrol]

Apps don't typically need drivers though.

Or third party libraries.

[reef tundra]

Thats what lutris is for or something

[crisp granite]

where as the double movement app relies on some stuff that is windows only

[crimson wigeon]

Try it! You'll probably end up being very disappointed however.. recommendation: install an OS that is more game friendly

[reef tundra]

Virtual machines

https://tenor.com/view/muta-mutahar-laugh-slow-laugh-giggle-gif-18444092

[crisp granite]

you'd need to repackage the app and all required stuff for OS X

and then hope it works

which I doubt it will

[wheat plume]

MUTA

[cursive summit]

har

[wheat plume]

Mutahard

[cursive summit]

Also pretty sure his name is Mudahar

Or moudahar

[reef tundra]

Mutahar Anas

[wheat plume]

No, his name is VM Master 69

[latent mural]

whats the best way to have both windows and os on big sur m1

parallels?

or is there any other option

[cursive summit]

Anus?

[crimson wigeon]

Oh M1 yeah you're a bit screwed there

[reef tundra]

Virtual machines with gpu passthrough.. oh wait m1

[latent mural]

yea

m1

😭

why did I get a m1 mac for $1200

I could have gotten a good pc for that price

[crimson wigeon]

Because the marketing is so good

[crisp granite]

tbh

M1 macs are good

[crimson wigeon]

Plus cool people have Apple products

[wheat plume]

just over double the price of my PC

[crisp granite]

just not for gaming

lmao

[latent mural]

yea

but what is actually good about m1s

[wheat plume]

just over
€400 over

[latent mural]

im just realizing that now

[crisp granite]

well, if you need macOS and her software, it's a stellar machine for it

[latent mural]

there is nothing really good about m1s

the processing speed is pretty fast

but I mean

[wheat plume]

and battery life

[latent mural]

...

true

but when running games, the battery life is horrid

[wheat plume]

that applies to everything

[crisp granite]

yeah

I had a laptop that could do 15 hours on a full charge doing nothing

that dropped to 2 hours when gaming

that was also with the power saving settings, which gimps actual performance

[wheat plume]

My laptop lasts about 2 hours

doing almost nothing

[young pecan]

So...

[wheat plume]

44% battery health FTW /s

[young pecan]

Why exactly are M1s such top tier machines...?

M1 and all yey, I know.

But what's the actual practical use case you'll get in an M1 machine?

Minor photo editing and that...?

[wheat plume]

M1 is basically Apple being able to integrate apps from their own ecosystems onto only one platform type

iPad, iPhone, Mac all run on the same CPU now

well, almost

[reef patrol]

Anything that isn't GPU centered.

[wheat plume]

I bet iphone goping to switch son

[young pecan]

That's great, but what does OSx actually do of value that isn't either GPU required or needs a stronger CPU?

Can't really video edit with it.

[reef tundra]

GPUs are there for grunt work

[wheat plume]

That questions can apply to any OS

[young pecan]

High grade photo editing, like my grandmother does, can't be done on it.

[ashen spindle]

the efficent core designs and the fine tuned OS for scheduling makes it just really nice to use for office work

[reef patrol]

Yes you can.-

[wheat plume]

^^

[young pecan]

raised eyebrow Not at really good res.

[wheat plume]

Yes you can

[young pecan]

Minor stuff, fine.

But not upsamped 4k and shit, that'd be hell on scrubbing.

Fuuck that.

[reef tundra]

You can tell your editor to prerender a sequence at full resolution

[young pecan]

That stuff is extremely heavy on hardware.

Aside from office use, why actually use a SFF M1 device?

[reef tundra]

otherwise you can manually lower the resolution to be able to keep up the frames

[young pecan]

There's just better.

[latent mural]

I want apple to start putting a tiny bit of focus on gaming. There is a market within apple users

[wheat plume]

OFC there is better, this is Apple
They have brand appeal and MacOS only software like Final Cut that draw people in

[reef tundra]

Actual exported result should be equivalent

[wheat plume]

Apple Arcade!

/s

[latent mural]

@wheat plume lets be real apple arcade is a joke

I am talking about being able to run games

without crashing every 20 seconds

[wheat plume]

Thats why the sarcasm xd

[latent mural]

even league of legends doesnt run properly

😭

[wheat plume]

ooof

[reef tundra]

Apple did appeal to gaming in the 1980s or something. After that professional and pretentious market became their main goal

[wheat plume]

yeah

they had a lot of games for their systems

[reef tundra]

Apple is a status symbol to some people. 🤷

[wheat plume]

most

[reef patrol]

Many*

[reef tundra]

Fashion related

[wheat plume]

Apple's users are either video / photo editors, musicians and people who feel better than everyone who doesnt have an Apple product

[reef tundra]

Same reason beats by dre was mainstream at one point

[wheat plume]

basically

Not the best but convenient and fashionable

[reef tundra]

Really lucrative market but hard to keep satiated

[young pecan]

Disagree on that last one.

Apple does actually have a really good position for artists.

That's the one genuine part.

[wheat plume]

yeah

I know

oh hey, a Vanced user!

[reef tundra]

A who?

[wheat plume]

Youtube Vanced

[reef tundra]

New youtube service?

[young pecan]

MOBILE LEGENDS! FUCKING LMAO!

[wheat plume]

no no, its a youtube mod that lets you have no ads and background play, sponser block and other settings

it cant do downloading videos though

[young pecan]

Windows version?

[wheat plume]

nope

[cursive summit]

Vanced is cool

[wheat plume]

^

[cursive summit]

But there are different similar clients

Vanced's really easy to set up anyways

And works great

[wheat plume]

you just get the manager and thats that

[cursive summit]

I just wish I was able to literally uninstall the OG YouTube

It keeps opening

[wheat plume]

I did that on custom roms

it was great

[young pecan]

Just root the device...?

And uninstall?

[cursive summit]

I ain't rooting shit

[reef tundra]

Become #

[wheat plume]

or use adb

[young pecan]

Or that.

Rooting is easy af.

It's literally just unlocking admin for linux. xD

[cursive summit]

Also a risky process

[wheat plume]

yesn't

[cursive summit]

So yeah not taking any chances

[young pecan]

Risky...?

Since when?

[wheat plume]

Hauwei's UI looks like OneUI

[cursive summit]

Plus it's a tiny inconvenience anyways

[reef tundra]

Biggest risk is exposing the root user and bootloader.

[latent mural]

good part is

its very hard

to get a virus

on m1

[wheat plume]

and needing to delete your storage

[latent mural]

you need to go out of your way to get one

[cursive summit]

That ain't happening

[ashen spindle]

yeah for maybe couple more months then it's the same risk as a non m1 chip to get one

[reef tundra]

sudo rm / -rf && echo "lmao you deleted everything, dont execute random instructions without knowing what they do"

[cursive summit]

At that point I'd just install a completely different OS

But I need the data so, eh

[wheat plume]

oo Vanced works on HarmonyOS :D

[reef tundra]

ironic

if irony is so great why did they never release irony 2

[crimson wigeon]

Of course because it's literally just Android that has been put through a global search and replace "Android" -> "HarmonyOS"

[wheat plume]

De-googled Android

[reef tundra]

arch linux

[wheat plume]

wot

[latent mural]

do you all remember mac minis?

[reef tundra]

The trashcan?

[crimson wigeon]

Nah that was the pro

[wheat plume]

the new one is a decent price tbh

[latent mural]

it was insane

nah

its useless now

[wheat plume]

hm

[latent mural]

the best thing is the raspberry pi

its insane

its only $60

its the same as the mac mini technically

[wheat plume]

yet not nearly as powerful

[reef tundra]

raspberry pi zero w chads

[wheat plume]

Pi can barely do youtube at 1080p60

[reef tundra]

But can the mac do a blinkenled?

[young pecan]

Just...

Get a free Raspberri Pi.

[latent mural]

raspberry pi is not that bad

for the price

[young pecan]

Infinite price to performance.

[wheat plume]

yeh :D

[reef tundra]

Win by defination

[young pecan]

If the price to performance is infinity it outperforms anything.

[latent mural]

I mean for a lot of people, its the best choice for the price

[reef tundra]

Can run text processor to get distracted in, can do email, can calculate 3+6 just in case mathmatics has changed, watch a movie, do a little solitaire and crash for those who miss that feature

[latent mural]

true

I mean

but for a lot of people, thats all they need and can afford

it can even run notepad!

[reef tundra]

Great for developing countries. Easy to power, does the bare minimum one needs for computing, and can be carried around with just one hand

[wheat plume]

I dont care much for iOS but iPadOS has really nice multitasking features

https://youtu.be/0UvIVaNvXNU

[young pecan]

Bois.

Bois.

Dream car, anyone?

[reef tundra]

Gals

[young pecan]

Look at this fucking thing. It's gorgeous.

[reef tundra]

why you ask?

[young pecan]

So nut worthy.

Street legal 1995 McLaren F1 GTR.

[pale sigil]

Pretty ugly

[reef tundra]

it looks a little flat nosed

[pale sigil]

Imo

[young pecan]

I love it.

[young pecan]

Street legal McLaren F1 GTR Longtail.

[pale sigil]

I wouldn't mind a tesla

[young pecan]

Arguably one of the single greatest racing cars ever created.

[pale sigil]

Im not really into cars

[reef tundra]

weird flex but ok

[crisp granite]

ey

a Type 2 T1

😄

those things are lovely

[young pecan]

Look at this freak of an engine. Idk what inspired this monster, but 1995 was a hell of a year.

[reef tundra]

Rotary engine gang

[crisp granite]

[reef patrol]

[young pecan]

Pog.

[crisp granite]

I actually have the type 2 T1 lego set

but...I dropped it

never bothered to rebuild it

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/why-why-why-dee-pqperplqnes-gif-20613669

[young pecan]

The biggest tragedy of the F1 is that so few were ever built.

70 or something currently exist that're road worthy.

I will have one.

I must.

[reef tundra]

bt7

[crisp granite]

Aeon...it'll cost more than a new electric hypercar with better performance

are you sure?

[young pecan]

20 million dollars.

US.

[reef tundra]

Thats more expensive than a fighter jet

[young pecan]

I can and will brute force my way through life in order to obtain an F1 I can street drive.

[reef tundra]

That is what bribes are for

[crisp granite]

that's more expensive than buying several hundred kilos of bluefin tuna every day of the fucking year

[old marlin]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-clampdown-crypto-mining-gpu-prices-plunging

[wheat plume]

I really want a Tesla

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/bateman-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-based-based-department-gif-20278087

[old marlin]

my brother drives a model 3

lol

[wheat plume]

oo

[crisp granite]

F

siblings

[old marlin]

?

[young pecan]

I will brute force my way through life.

I do not care whatsoever.

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/hbe1z-0nVeI

[young pecan]

F1 GTR will be mine.

[crisp granite]

aight Aeon

if I had the money to buy an F1, I'd buy myself a nice keelboat

and put the rest towards retirement

[young pecan]

Here's the thing, Doge.

Technically in Australia you can learn to drive in any car, even race ones, because there's no law preventing you from doing so.

I will learn to drive in a supercar for the memes.

:)

[old marlin]

?

[sharp venture]

inline 6 gang best gang

[old marlin]

you can learn to drive any car anywhere

wtf do you mean

[crisp granite]

heh

my dream boat

816 700 €

excluding VAT

[young pecan]

Lot of places have limits of horsepower learners and P platers can drive.

[crisp granite]

for a basic model

[young pecan]

But not in aussie for a few things by a technicality. :P

[crisp granite]

I better get saving

[old marlin]

yea a regular F1 is 3-4 million USD

[reef tundra]

Jetplane. Doge. Jet powered chaos we need. Afterburners will do the damage. Rockets are useless anyway, need ground crew. Machine gun is too primative. But imagine breaking the sound barrier

[old marlin]

yea same in germany

and we are even allowed to make use of the power on the road

[young pecan]

Wish we had that here.

[old marlin]

and don't have to drive a hypercar at 90s shitbox speeds

[young pecan]

But I have to learn how to drive in a McLaren F1 GTR for the shits and gigs.

[old marlin]

what is the speedlimit in AUS?

[young pecan]

120 or so max.

Big sad.

[reef tundra]

120 speed units

[crisp granite]

120 km/h

[old marlin]

kmh I am assuming?

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-kekwrgb-gif-19278361

[young pecan]

Yeee

[old marlin]

130

apparently

[crisp granite]

we aren't in some 3nd world country using "miles"

[old marlin]

that is "richtgeschwindigkeit" for the autobahn

aka the speed you are supposed to be targeting

[reef tundra]

They like to refer to feet or sometheing the fetishists over there lmao

[young pecan]

But I mean c'mon...

Just...

[crisp granite]

I can't say no to this beauty

[reef tundra]

NO

i did it

[young pecan]

Just look how beautiful it is.

Is that car not utterly gorgeous?

[crisp granite]

personally, not my taste

me is boat guy

[old marlin]

it is utterly pixelated

[young pecan]

W8.

Reeee

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/icbm-rocket-missile-gif-7962839

[old marlin]

also gulf colors are not my thing

[reef tundra]

Wont be able to ignore that pressence

[young pecan]

Such a beautiful car.

Trivially top 3 supercars of the 20th century.

Arguably one of the single best supercars to ever exist just on the sheer fame alone.

Sure, the speedtail is a LOT faster, but it just isn't that.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-gif-14978199

Fear this

[latent mural]

@reef tundra

fear this

[reef tundra]

[latent mural]

[pale sigil]

[latent mural]

yo i need someone that's quite smart or has knowledge with key remappers as ANTsoft, i'd greatly appreciate some help also i'll paypal you 5€ if you can find the solution :D thx

[dry tendon]

https://travisdowns.github.io/blog/2021/06/17/rip-zero-opt.html#fnref:barely

very interesting

[pale sigil]

Free storage real estate

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Hmm

fave part of having multiple ssds

[reef tundra]

But wait there is more

[cursive summit]

Days Gone?

[pale sigil]

So long

You've served me well

[reef tundra]

Put a screw into it

[shadow minnow]

My ssd is fast but idk if it’s alive tbh.
Heard that the mobo also killed ssd for one person when dying

[pale sigil]

can i just say

[reef tundra]

Its rarely the data itself has been made irrecoverable. The controller would be first to go

[pale sigil]

i hate 2b drives

[dry tendon]

Congrats on the new drive

[pale sigil]

cos you always get left unsatisfied

[reef tundra]

Thats why you trust in the power of floppy disks

[cursive summit]

What's wrong with that one

[shadow minnow]

Why?

Also have a 2tb drive

[reef tundra]

Infinite homework, finite storage

[cursive summit]

Cause of shitty conversion from mbs to MBs

[pale sigil]

Because marketing 2tb is 2000gb

lol

ye

but anyway

just need to transfer stuff over now

[reef tundra]

dd them

[cursive summit]

Not quite there

[reef tundra]

give em a good shredding

[shadow minnow]

Reminds me how my phone is not allowing me to take photos again since I have completely full storage and that I should move photos to eHDD once again

[dry tendon]

I want a 4 TB PCIE 4 SSD

[cursive summit]

64 or bust

[dry tendon]

I am fine with Intel's QLC 670p level tech

its actually good

[pale sigil]

hmm weird

[cursive summit]

Is it logical at all to get a single 8TB SSD and split that into 4 different drives

[reef tundra]

-1 TB PCI -1 SSD

[pale sigil]

seems a bit slower than my samsung

capping out at 401mb/s atm

[shadow minnow]

My drive would only cap out at 6950MBPS

[reef tundra]

The lord giveth, the lord taketh. And today the SSD aint going to go above 401mb/s because 404 was already taken by him

[pale sigil]

helpful

[reef tundra]

try to turn it off and on again

🤷

[shadow minnow]

Wish I could just turn my pc on or off

[reef tundra]

Have you tried to use a monitar?

Make your pc an offer it cant refuse

[wheat plume]

Why can't you?

[ashen spindle]

yeah, just press the power button on your case

[reef tundra]

Bucket of water should do it

[shadow minnow]

Mobo and cpu waiting for replacement

Only turns on the pump

[shadow minnow]

Does not work

PSU at least does something

[reef patrol]

FUN

Welp - Apparently John McAfee just pulled an Epstein. There goes the cocaine fueled memes.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/take-a-seat-chris-hansen-gif-12085242

[ashen spindle]

and nothing of value was lost

[ashen spindle]

oh that is what mansen meant

I googled and only found results of him getting send to the us after a ruling today

LOLOLOLOLOL

[cursive summit]

I didn't hear anything of him dying

[ashen spindle]

just minutes ago

[reef tundra]

CIA happens

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah

"formally indicted McAfee and an executive adviser for allegedly fraudulently promoting certain cryptocurrencies and performing pump and dump schemes."

He suicided cause of that?

[reef tundra]

eh, he lost his sanity long time ago

[cursive summit]

Hope Eugene Kaspersky ain't going to do anything like that

[ashen spindle]

now this is from 2019 but

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1200864283766251521

John McAfee (@officialmcafee)

Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm.

$WHACKD available only on https://t.co/HdSEYi9krq:)

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https://tenor.com/view/tin-foil-hat-jabrils-foil-hat-put-on-a-hat-wearing-a-hat-gif-18223681

[cursive summit]

What

That is some fucked grammar

[ashen spindle]

no that means killing someone and framing it as suicide

[reef tundra]

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/persecutory-delusions

[crimson wigeon]

Wonder if that actually happened though

[cursive summit]

I mean that's what they meant

But that is phrased in some really weird way

[ashen spindle]

well yeah he phrased it and the guy was a crackhead

so what you expect

[astral haven]

Hyype

[crimson wigeon]

Nice!

[crimson wigeon]

Not really, those are readily available now at least here

At reasonable prices

[astral haven]

eBay takes a 10% cut

So uh
That's pretty much MSRP on ebay

[ashen spindle]

yeah give it another week or so and the 5950 is msrp on american stores as well

wtf 5600x is on a constant 30€ discount on mindfactory now

wonder if they are feeling bad about scalping gpus so they make cpus cheaper or wtf is going on there

wtf thats down to 383€ here already

man how much did they overbuy lol

5 max for mindfactory

wait its 5 for some 1 for some and unlimited for others

[fickle ore]

383€ is super cheap for 5800x wtf

[ashen spindle]

this system makes no sense lol

right?

[cursive summit]

275 is a fair price for the powerhouse that is the 5600X

[ashen spindle]

it's a 10% discount on msrp lol

and 15% on the 5800x lol

[cursive summit]

Yeah, shortage iirc

[fickle ore]

idk, maybe the zen3's arent selling as much as hoped but doubt it

[ashen spindle]

then they would just no order as many for restocking and sell through what they have

idk

not like they take a lot of space in storage compared to selling price

but hey, shows we are not completely fucked with regards to supply chain lmao

good sign to some degree at least

[fickle ore]

yepp

aiting for cheap gpu now

[ionic storm]

not exactly "tech" but anyone here got recommendations for one of those tools to pull off keycaps? Always just used my nails and figured I should get one. Are the random ones on amazon all ok? I can't imagine there can be many issues with a tool that simple, but I figured I'd check just in case

[reef patrol]

Keycaps? A run of the mill wire puller is all you need.

[ionic storm]

yah that's what amazon is filled with

wasn't sure if there was something I should look out for or any other random issues

they gonna scratch anything over time? what about these plastic ones?

[reef patrol]

No idea - The wires grab the underside, so if they do scratch it'd be the one place where you can't see it.

The wire puller is just faster imo.

[ionic storm]

looks like this has a tool for pulling switches. is that universal?

[pale sigil]

Bargain

[astral haven]

Without expert installation

[wheat plume]

why did I know this would happen? :')

[neat oriole]

Wire puller is the better keycap puller imo

[reef patrol]

DDR5 RAM looking fire...or kawaii. you decide xD

[wheat plume]

Gimme

Actually
Thay might be too wide for my Mobo slots

[zenith sonnet]

It's a "I'm buying the CPU there, might as well buy other components" deal

[young pecan]

https://godsunchained.com/token

The snowball is beginning for games.

Oh boy! Here we go!

From my knowledge this'd be the first game with a dedicated cryptocurrency, no?

[wheat plume]

Isnt the Windows thingy today?

[crimson wigeon]

But of course

[reef tundra]

Windows will kill the bootloader today if you let it to

[wheat plume]

Im not updating

[reef tundra]

But it aint asking

[ashen spindle]

it's not coming out today...

[crimson wigeon]

Only for insiders if they even bother with that

[ashen spindle]

yeah inside ring if anything

[wheat plume]

Insiders already have the new Start menu and icons right?

[ashen spindle]

but the release is more like oktober

[wheat plume]

ye

[halcyon moss]

👻 updates

[pale sigil]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/john-mcafee-found-dead-prison-after-spanish-court-allows-extradition-2021-06-23/

Soooo

Faked his own death right

[wheat plume]

that face is looking very punchable

[ashen spindle]

he'll be back shilling resurrection crypto coin with coke maybe

[timid chasm]

I mean, this was expected wasn't it?

[halcyon moss]

why?

[ashen spindle]

idk feel like tax evasion can be paid off with just some bonus and wouldnt result in 20 years of jail or so

unless there was more that just wasnt public

[timid chasm]

I just meant expected from his behavior in the last day or two or w/e it was

[ashen spindle]

I wouldn't call it expected but rather not surprising

[timid chasm]

It happened sooner than I suspected. I would've guessed within the month or two but definitely not surprising

At least we know it was the gov't who did it 😛

[ashen spindle]

if you are part of a secret government and you do suicide, was it suicide or a plot from a secret government

[reef patrol]

I mean... I was fully expecting him to get taken out by the CIA in a massive shootout on a tropical island.

[timid chasm]

Makes a better movie that way

[ashen spindle]

personally im 50/50 on it being real or a plot

he was crazy but rich enough to have connections and possible dirt on people

[timid chasm]

for sure. Definitely crazy but god knows what he had his hands in

[halcyon moss]

he just got to know he was going to get shipped to the usa right? i guess he didnt want that

[ashen spindle]

sure but it was for tax evasion, I dont know american law but I doubt that would call for sentences one can't pay out or would make him stuck there forever

[timid chasm]

I think there was crypto fraud too? Probably a lot of other stuff if they wanted

[young pecan]

Jesus fuck, ikr.

Never seen such a punchable looking face.

[wheat plume]

ikr?!

[timid chasm]

Way more punchable faces than some 75 year old crazy person

Shkreli and Shapiro imo

[wheat plume]

I too want to punch Shapiro

[timid chasm]

Is that related to the face though? Or everything else that's shit about him?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[timid chasm]

Yes indeed

Numero uno though

[wheat plume]

whom'st'tf is that?

[timid chasm]

Lol I forget you're that young

[reef patrol]

"lets hike the price on drugs" guy

[wheat plume]

🤔

[timid chasm]

Martin Shkreli

[halcyon moss]

is that the guy that bought a drug company and immediately raised the prices?

[wheat plume]

oh

him

[timid chasm]

Avanna maybe wasn't born yet?

[wheat plume]

no no

I heard of him

[timid chasm]

through your grandmothers tales?

[wheat plume]

LOL no

[timid chasm]

"when I was a young gal we had this rat looking motherfucker who tried to kill us all"

[wheat plume]

yeah...

Lets punch him

with a rocket launcher

[reef tundra]

Just remove his pancreas and sell him insuline at 1 billion per dose

[wheat plume]

oh

yes

Rocket Launcher is too fast

[timid chasm]

depends on how accurate you are

[reef tundra]

Technically he has a choice

So its not murder

just how markets work or something

[wheat plume]

I love using Need For Sped Hot Pursuit to destroy Windows and make it unbootable :D

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

The uninstaller just deletes EVERYTHING in the folder you install the game on

Tell it to install the game on your C:/Windows folder and BOOM

no more computer

[halcyon moss]

i mean.. why did you even install it there?

[wheat plume]

To see if it could actually fuck up Windows

[halcyon moss]

but that is probably with more games

[wheat plume]

yeah im sure

[halcyon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[reef tundra]

You’re getting hacked. It’s too late, you can’t stop me. I’m going for accounts and passwords on every device on your network in your home, including your parents phones. Followed by, a virus that will completely destroy everything on your phone and permanently erasing all backups. You have one chance to stop me. U gonna listen? Blocking or deleting won’t help.

Who is Joe and what is he doing on your network?

[old marlin]

arabian windows is cursed

[ashen spindle]

oh god

[reef tundra]

im expecting 20 popups to appear

[ashen spindle]

trash bin not in the bottom right is a crime

[crimson wigeon]

Weird they didn't flip the wallpaper as well

[old marlin]

I didn't expect the task bar to be mirrored

[reef tundra]

Why not flip windows aswell?

[old marlin]

it is so cursed

the close and minimize buttons are on the left as well

IF the programm supports unicode

aka

[wheat plume]

o.o

[old marlin]

not on cmd

[reef tundra]

Right to left

[misty saffron]

for some reason the nokia arabic ringtone is the thing that i’m hearing in my head

[old marlin]

and if you open a folder with RTL in the name

it might mess up

[misty saffron]

right to left should die

most arabs use latin anyways

[old marlin]

not arabian windows

[reef tundra]

??

[old marlin]

this is even more cursed than korean windows

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/ZXv2nyMLFqw?t=174

this timestamp may make you happy

[reef tundra]

No

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-recreation-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-like-saying-no-saying-no-gif-18249875

[wheat plume]

no

[misty saffron]

mashallah ☝️

[old marlin]

I own that game

[wheat plume]

LOL

[old marlin]

I bought it cause I know it is bad though

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-nick-offerman-inshallah-gif-13027660

[old marlin]

for 99 cents or something

[wheat plume]

oh xd

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/QBTwzYKx-kE

[halcyon moss]

mi or 1+ ?

[wheat plume]

Neither

Samsung had the second worst

Blackberry had the worst

you need to send them your IMEI to even get anywhere

[ashen spindle]

ah yes, the brand not included on the picture, should've known that one 😛

[wheat plume]

ikr!

duh!

he also tried Vivo

[young pecan]

Uhh.

Apple does, by far.

It's not even remotely a contest.

Y'know, from the fact that they will actively refuse to help you because their policy is to not allow repair of devices?

And if you want it fixed they'll happily charge you a grand and won't actually save your data even though that's easy. :L

[reef tundra]

The water indicators pink

1000 dolars pls

[young pecan]

Lmfao and their stupid bullshit with the water indicators.

[reef tundra]

Just buy the new devices

[pale sigil]

Wow...

That's pretty decent

[reef tundra]

They got some mobos left in the storage?

[ashen spindle]

decent? I'd say pretty bad lmao

parts alone are like 850 vs 1400

550 pound extra is about what you need to pay for parts alone

[pale sigil]

In the current market

It's not bas

Bad

[ashen spindle]

literally the same as buying separate

so its not worse I guess?

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/3ba1jlzuuPc

[vagrant pagoda]

so here is an odd one

alt tab quit working on windows for me

[crimson wigeon]

You're not allowed to use shortcuts anymore

[halcyon moss]

windows is moving to a mouse based env

[crimson wigeon]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/event I am ready to only see what was in the "leak" pepelaugh

[wheat plume]

was it just this screen and music for 2 hours so far?!

[halcyon moss]

meh, i'll read the summaries on tech blogs

[crimson wigeon]

But of course

[halcyon moss]

ive got better things to do with my time than listen to coorporate blabla :p

like having a drink with old colleagues!

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1408044866810957825

kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi)

Black Knight

Twitter · Jun 24, 2021, 12:50 PM

Which is the Nintendo variant of Nvidia's Orin SoC

https://youtu.be/7Y_RZf5i_LE

[crimson wigeon]

I member when live tiles was the future

What a jank-ass stream

[cursive summit]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/23/amazon-uk-warehouses-destroy-items/

Oh look

A shitty company

[pale sigil]

Can yall give me a summery

Or well if its called windows 11 or something else

[cursive summit]

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-gaming-announcements

Direct Storage? Noice

[pale sigil]

Oh so irs official

Actually Windows 11

[crimson wigeon]

Epic Games approved store changes

[young pecan]

What’s the improvement on DirectStorage?

[cursive summit]

Look at console load times

That's the improvement

[crimson wigeon]

Really don't know why it would claim my computor isn't compatible... bet it's because I have that secure boot garbage not enabled

[cursive summit]

Same here

[ashen spindle]

probably have to activate TPM in bios

[cursive summit]

I ran my thing in a VM so it's fine

Yeah don't listen to the tool, it's borked

[crimson wigeon]

Yarp the leaked build at least worked perfectly fine in a VM

[ashen spindle]

it seems TPM and secure boot are needed

[young pecan]

Leaked build works, it’s just you need TPM.

[crimson wigeon]

Ugh

More shit I have to deal with then

[young pecan]

Or you just use unRAID and it works with nothingness in overhead.

Why an insider email...?

Win11?

[crimson wigeon]

Next week is when they'll put out official insider builds, apparently maybe

[ashen spindle]

win11 is an inside job???

[young pecan]

Aaah.

[young pecan]

Win11... 11...

[ashen spindle]

[young pecan]

9/11!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!
WiN1 iS lInKeD tO gEoRgE bUSH!!1!111!1

• internet degenerates

The sad part is that somebody will legitimately claim that.

Someone somewhere is unhinged enough for that to be reasonable reality.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but getting them stuck on this prevents them getting stuck on something even more dumb at least

[young pecan]

[reef tundra]

win32 was probably present at 9/11 pretty sus

[reef tundra]

UTC?

what

[reef patrol]

So the Win11 leak. Has anyone tried using it as a daily driver yet? Any obvious bugs or stuff that breaks?

[reef tundra]

Just the usual system32 rootkit/pup kind of deal

Delete the folder and you should be set to a unhackable system

[reef patrol]

Figured they might have ripped something out that could break Nvidia drivers or whatever.

[reef tundra]

Directx depreciated. all hail your new overlord the tty printer. Pls no spam just got new ink

[reef patrol]

[reef tundra]

Wait...

wrong side of history

Good for you?

https://youtu.be/P-giC24SxwE
Thats some strong braking power

[shadow minnow]

Understandable

Tbh if I could afford both a good M1X MacBook Pro and windows pc I would most likely also use the windows pc just for gaming

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Uh9643c2P6k

[crimson wigeon]

DirectStorage requires 1 TB or greater NVMe SSD to store and run games that uses the "Standard NVM Express Controller" driver and a DirectX 12 Ultimate GPU.

Internet connection and Microsoft accounts: Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.

Can't wait for that to apply to pro as well

[wheat plume]

oh FUCK THAT SHIT

[reef patrol]

Sounds like a prime target for offline hacks 😄

And another great time for the EU to poke MS.

[zenith sonnet]

Well, still plenty of come to terms with it

[fickle ore]

just do a random acct that has no other shit connected to it I guess; unless pro version can skip it?

[reef patrol]

It's the principle.

I don't like needing to log into my own PC using an email address and a password or 4 digit code. I just want it to fucking boot up and go to desktop 😄

[crimson wigeon]

Probably reused tech from back when they tried to push Intel CPU powered phones and stuff

[ashen spindle]

it says on x86 so not just intel

also, personally dont like it, but I could see how it stops users from being dumb and dumb users are 99% of the home edition users

[reef tundra]

Sounds like Qemu

[reef patrol]

You need a hybrid CPU that has both ARM and X86 cores iirc.

[astral haven]

Lmao no mansen

It's arm on x86 using virtualization

[ashen spindle]

it's sort of a reverse rosetta

[reef patrol]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/core-processors-with-hybrid-technology-brief.html

[astral haven]

Yup

[ashen spindle]

no thats not what intel bridge is about

[astral haven]

That's x86 for both big and little mansen

[ashen spindle]

hybrid tech is lakefield, alder lake etc. tech with different cores

[astral haven]

Both x86 cores

[ashen spindle]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-tech-unleashes-windows-experience.html

[reef patrol]

I see - I understood it as though those specifically needed hybrid CPUs 😄

[ashen spindle]

nono that is just naming that causes confustion

[astral haven]

I don't see the naming confusion?

[ashen spindle]

well, it's confused him, not saying it's confusing in general 😛

[reef patrol]

[reef patrol]

I haven't read that particular article. I did however read one that made it sound like this was a hybrid CPU only thing 😄

Which... Intel are the only ones with rn?

[ashen spindle]

well hybrid is just the name intel uses

[astral haven]

Intel and all of arm

[ashen spindle]

arm already has it as big.Little

amd has something coming but will have another name for it

[astral haven]

As did ibm but rip

Heterogenous compute?

Oh no that's CPU+ gpu

[ashen spindle]

that's what people use as a general term, maybe amd will use it who knows

maybe just something-something-chiplets as it will most likely be different chiplets connected via IODie and not different cores on a monolithic block

but the zen5 variant with that is a couple days in the future still 😛

[astral haven]

Idk chipset isn't great for hybrid designs :/

[ashen spindle]

well, I'm guessing it is chiplet, maybe it's not

[astral haven]

It's likely not gonna be

[ashen spindle]

maybe it's 3D stacked, we really dont know yet

[astral haven]

Big.little is best for more gluey solutions

Where you have complete io + compute on the same die connected to other compute

And you have the external compute be faster but fully gateable

[ashen spindle]

well tmk we also still dont know what the sku is targeted at, embedded or not etc.

[astral haven]

What it's for doesn't matter much

Serdes isn't power efficient

[misty saffron]

so the settings screen is different in windows 11 after all

unsurprised, they've already used apps to hide features in case of leaked isos before

[ashen spindle]

couldnt it be that it would make sense to have it be through IOdie if it's for tasks where you know you will not/rarely switch process between cores?

[reef tundra]

They just couldnt stop themselves from making the ui less consistent

[misty saffron]

i like the new settings app

it makes much more sense

also actual themes

[reef tundra]

big folder with all the administrative tools

[misty saffron]

decently organized vs whatever the fuck it is right now

android apps is pretty cool though

bet android devs are happy

[reef tundra]

Coulnt they already run an virtual machine with bare metal access

[misty saffron]

...

that's like saying "your pc already has all the features because it supports apps"

does that mean they're trying to kill booting without secure boot on

or what

[ashen spindle]

atm it seems like secure boot has to be active and not just an option

[misty saffron]

yep

if so - rip loading non-whql drivers

[reef patrol]

Yep. They're forcing that nasty TPM shit. At least for now.

[misty saffron]

tpm requires secure boot to be on?

[reef patrol]

I highly doubt that'll stick cause that's pre-dooming a ton of those potential "free upgrade" customers

[chrome estuary]

Michael MJD bypassed it at least in the leaked shit

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-congratulations-you-are-rescued-please-gif-17932648

[misty saffron]

michael mjd isn't the average consumer

[ashen spindle]

no win11 requires TPM and secure boot on

[chrome estuary]

i mean yeah fair.

[reef patrol]

It's like going "Congrats on your free windows 11 update. However since you don't have an 11th gen Intel you can't use it. Please buy a new laptop"

[misty saffron]

yeah, rip non-whql drivers

[reef tundra]

And you cannot roll the update back because secure boot

[astral haven]

It's a boot option to ignore signing

[astral haven]

Wut

[misty saffron]

no

secure boot off allows you to load signed, but not whql signed drivers

test mode is the boot option that disables signature checks

i.e. g_CiOptions in ci.dll is 0

[astral haven]

Boot options menu, disable signature enforcement

[misty saffron]

ci.dll being the code integrity kernel mode

yes, that enables test mode

and it is not secure boot

[misty saffron]

"antimalware software" is just kernel drivers which have a higher load priority

fun fact

[reef tundra]

To be able to also deal with drivers going out of line

[astral haven]

Secure boot is separate from driver signatures

[misty saffron]

wat

[reef tundra]

??

[astral haven]

It's just booting

You can run whatever drivers you want after booting

[reef patrol]

Google seems to disagree?

[astral haven]

If your gpu doesn't have signed drivers, you get a black screen until you are booted

I literally had to deal with this because the drivers for my pcie root weren't signed in dev mode

So if I wanted to boot with signature enforcement I had to put the pcie switch in consumer mode

Disable signature enforcement and it'll launch just fine

Your storage needs a signed driver tho

No ancient raid cards allowed

[misty saffron]

you don't seem to know how signature checks work on windows 10

it is a requirement to have your driver signed not just by you, but also by WHQL

unless you have secure boot off, which removes the WHQL requirement

disabling signature checks.. disables signature checks

altogether

by enforcing secure boot to be enabled microsoft achieves only one thing

[astral haven]

At least to boot

[misty saffron]

pretty much completely dealing with the leaked certs problem

[wheat plume]

Oh fuck .-. cant dual boot anymore if Secure Boot always has to be enabled

[astral haven]

I don't care how Microsoft says they work
How they actually work is
No loading on boot

[astral haven]

That's not true?

It's just more of a pain

[misty saffron]

biggest facepalm moment

i write drivers for a living

if something is my area of expertise then i'm sure as fuck that is

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ I can only tell you the reality of the aituation

[misty saffron]

and i can tell you exactly how it works because i reversed ci.dll to bypass it

i wonder how whql signing being absolutely required going to impact smaller businesses though

no clue how hard it is to create a whql submission account

for all i know employer just gave me an account i can use to upload files from the build server, lol

whql is a joke though, "analysis" is all automated

doesn't matter how malicious your shit is

[ashen spindle]

could technically just an error of them checking for it but in reality you dont need it active

[vagrant pagoda]

so wait ill finally have a use for tpm module on desktop lol

[misty saffron]

it would make sense for secure boot to be enabled to be a requirement

as i said, leaked certs are an issue

[ashen spindle]

or, with them enforcing internet connectivity and an account for home edition, maybe it's just a thing for HE too

[astral haven]

Not if you have a modern platform, pretty much everything modern has an etpm

[misty saffron]

possible

very possible

[vagrant pagoda]

its on my haswell system

it came with a replacement mobo from asus

oddly

[misty saffron]

guess we'll just wait for insider builds

[astral haven]

Either way this forces me to move my pcie ssd off of my main system

[vagrant pagoda]

what pcie swtich do you have that dosent have a signed driver

i have like 3 pcie cards with switchs on them all have signed drivers

even my old as plx ones

[astral haven]

The dev mode plx driver wasn't signed till I whined about it

[pale sigil]

Watching me cousin playing escape from tarkov off a hdd

[misty saffron]

hey callum ask your cousin to test my latest escape from tarkov development

[pale sigil]

Wot

[crisp granite]

[misty saffron]

nothing

:^)

[pale sigil]

Hollow

[crisp granite]

an AK with absolutely no furniture?

no stock

no handguard

[misty saffron]

no just made the game boxier

[crisp granite]

just a cheap ass pistol grip because you can't use an AK without it

[misty saffron]

idk i'm not a minecraft player

[pale sigil]

Nobs

Won’t work with iOS 14.2

[misty saffron]

stadia