I'll keep hodling my one bitcoin until the end of time 
#🔌│tech
crimson wigeon
young pecan
Bruh, just mine nights.
You don't actually need to mine all of the time, just do it overnight.
cursive summit
Yeah but if I do earn something, I want to make it a "career"
crimson wigeon
And days when you're away from home when that becomes a thing again
young pecan
Then you need an investment, startup cap, Vexx.
Crypto isn't viable without starting funds, it doesn't snowball fast enough.
cursive summit
Lemme approach my university start up fund for a small loan of a million dollars 
young pecan
crimson wigeon
Innovative business of mining useless cryptos that still don't do anything useful yet people value them because ????
Perfect
cursive summit
Innovative business of mining useless cryptos that still don't do anything usefu...
Future currency apparently
young pecan
Honestly, I'd suggest just mining for a few months and getting the hang of it, redo all of your math once a week to get a feel for things, do ALL of the research relating to everything blockchain, and then go for it.
crimson wigeon
Future currency of skyhigh fees
young pecan
Not certain on that. Eth 2.0 puts it in a very good position to become an actually traded currency.
cursive summit
Honestly, I'd suggest just mining for a few months and getting the hang of it, r...
Can't be bothered with any research in a subject or topic I frankly, don't give a fuck about
crisp granite
Innovative business of mining useless cryptos that still don't do anything usefu...
I personally believe a lot of people buying and mining crypto are banking on the fact that someone will buy them for actual money, not that they have inherit value
crimson wigeon
Keep believing that meme currency that they rollback when things don't go as they hope
crisp granite
that's it, really
young pecan
Keep believing that meme currency that they rollback when things don't go as the...
Mmm, I'm not believing it until I see it.
But should Sharding and PoS happen it does put Eth in a good position to become fast enough to use.
ashen spindle
I believe eth will go somewhere when they find a way to remove those insanely high transaction fees
young pecan
Plus the general Layer 2 improvements... idk, there stands a good chance at validation nodes being cheap enough to actually have feeless transfers.
ashen spindle
and I dont see them fixing that ever 
crisp granite
I see a few small issues with eth
young pecan
Lmao
crisp granite
hard to track, hard to tax, not accepted as actual tender, blahblahblah
crisp granite
the standard shit that most would actually care about
young pecan
Really though a crypto used in the real world would have to be pinned to either a fiat or material.
USDC or something would be a halfway decent example.
Very much never gonna happen without it being fully backed and actually useful as far as speed/fees go.
Either way I stand to make absolute bank while the tech matures.
cursive summit
The source code for FidelityFX Super Resolution 1.0 will be coming to GPUOpen in mid July!
So it even has an official version name as well now
crimson wigeon
I quickly tried Riftbreaker, yep it works even on my R9 Fury so that's neat
cursive summit
FSR 2.0 when?
ashen spindle
cant wait for nvidia to silently add it to DLSS 3 without telling anyone
cursive summit
They probably will just repurpose the code ideas
young pecan
Wym? Nvidia wouldn't ever steal content for their own use without saying anything.
cursive summit
It works damn well for just a layer
young pecan
ashen spindle
I mean, depending on how dlss works they might literally just put it in as it is and tie it to the dlss setting, done
crimson wigeon
"DLSS Lite"
ashen spindle
and if it works, great, even better for consumers
just would be nice if they'd open it and add it to gameworks so all can use it
ashen spindle
wait wait wait thats now in the tool?
how is that not the biggest news about the new driver lmao
now I can actually use that and dont have to restart if I want to play apex
dry tendon
Devs should be forced to support ReBAR by default
ashen spindle
ehhh
I still havent found an article that actually breaks down how it works
so dont want to say that when it could be detrimental to something else
crisp granite
Devs should be forced to support <niche thing that few really care about> by default
ashen spindle
if niche thing is something that just improves fps all around, yes
dry tendon
Literally something every single Nvidja and AMD gpu support
If that is niche...
And all.future ones will support too
crisp granite
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ashen spindle
I mean, it can lead to pretty big performance regression in some cases
and till its clear that can be avoided entirely
im not too keen on pressing for it
crisp granite
it should be on dev's to do list, but also most definitely on the chopping block if it ain't working or they need resources elsewhere
dry tendon
It's ironic how many old games run well with SAM or ReBAR out of the gate but modern shit tier games sometimes suffer
crisp granite
my $0.02
young pecan
All devs should be using multicore and optimizing for it.
I do not care whatsoever what excuses there are, multicore is delicious.
More core more good. 👌
ashen spindle
given it should most likely be a default engine feature that shouldn't need further tweaking, unlike multithreading, rebar should be much further up on the list
crisp granite
All devs should be using multicore and optimizing for it.
that's a given considering we aren't on 1c/1 or 2t parts anymore
well beyond that, actually
young pecan
that's a given considering we aren't on 1c/1 or 2t parts anymore
You'd think so, but games like ROR2 don't do shit with multiple cores.
And it's a tragedy.
young pecan
Apparently new AMD stuff is 128 Cores.
crisp granite
young pecan
Haven't seen that since the days of IBM making CPUs that mattered.
ashen spindle
Haven't seen that since the days of IBM making CPUs that mattered.
does cerebras count?
ashen spindle
I think it is classified as an AI cpu?
young pecan
I think CPU is a bad name.
Central processing unit.
Aren't those things supposed to be used in an array of them?
No central unit.
ashen spindle
I mean, are dual socket cpus not cpus either?
reef patrol
Aren't those things supposed to be used in an array of them?
If there's an array of them... is any one of them truly CENTRAL? 😉
ashen spindle
I get the point but I think as long as they are the central point where the action happens, I think it fits
young pecan
Dual socket boards still use CPUs intended to fit in one socket.
Those things aren't even intended to be alone in a system.
So does that make them array processing units?
Central processing unit kinda implies it being the center of something. Doesn't make sense in the same way there's no central chiplet in a CCX.
ashen spindle
I would argue as long as they still do vector math and are the central piece of where the things run, its a CPU
GPU is obvious, DPU is broader but mostly for when its used for data and isn't the main focus of the computer
young pecan
Doesn't fit into DPU or CPU. :L
ashen spindle
I think what tenstorrent does with Graph computing is not a cpu anymore
lower dimensinal math I'd still call a CPU in most cases
- they also have like a dozen ethernet ports directly to the chip interface for connecting more of them
but I'd not really stand my ground if someone wants to call it something else
young pecan
Idk.
Maybe just a PU with subsets of functionality?
We're not really in the days of having one kind of processing unit anymore.
That was the mid 80s.
ashen spindle
meh, I think cpu/dpu/gpu covers most and maybe one more for ML that we will get inevitably because marketing of some firm will make it happen
dry tendon
FSR works on GTX 900 and AMD 200 series GPUs too lol
crimson wigeon
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it works on basically everything
misty saffron
FSR works on GTX 900 and AMD 200 series GPUs too lol
as most of amd's offerings
tbh
just like freesync
dry tendon
FreeSync requires Maxwell V1 GPUs and GCN2 GPUs at the least
misty saffron
likely because of video out
`The original FreeSync is based over DisplayPort 1.2a, using an optional feature VESA terms Adaptive-Sync.[9] This feature was in turn ported by AMD from a Panel-Self-Refresh (PSR) feature from Embedded DisplayPort 1.0,[10] which allows panels to control its own refreshing intended for power-saving on laptops.[11] AMD FreeSync is therefore a hardware–software solution that uses publicly-available protocols to enable smooth, tearing-free and low-latency gameplay.
`
dry tendon
Perhaps yeah. DId you know RDNA1 was supposed to have HDMI2.1 support but it was broken in-hardware XD
dry tendon
Yeah but TVs are the only good displays in 2021
I know we talked about this before but fuck LCD
misty saffron
yeah i'd rather not use oled any time soon
burn-in is still an issue
though somehow phones just don't do that anymore
dry tendon
Burn in isnt an issue for the lifetime of the product iMHO
I think we jumped the 4-5 year gap
and the absolutely insane jump in all else is worth it
I want MicroLED to come out but I also wish LCD dies
ashen spindle
I don't care what comes I just want to finally have something that even makes sense to upgrade to that isn't 3x what I paid for my current one
dry tendon
I am prepared to pay up to 2000 EUR for a good OLED or MicroLED 4K 120 hz HDR 30" monitor
But it has to be good
Then I will be somewhat happy
crisp granite
😬
dry tendon
Until the realization that the reason I am unhappy has nothing to do with my material possessions and I finally end it with my old Hungarian Makarov
ashen spindle
on one hand it's nice my 5 year old monitor still holds up well
on the other it's sad I can't find a justifiable update in 5 years lmao
misty saffron
how are the new oled panels doing in terms of ghosting with blacks anyways
crisp granite
maybe something worth getting will be available then
I don't really see myself buying a new panel for at least...4-5 years
this 1080p IPS 144hz beast works wonders
and it didn't cost me an arm and a leg as well
misty saffron
only an arm
crisp granite
in fact, I think I spent more on my 2 HE than this panel 
misty saffron
that's why i'm disabled
ashen spindle
see thats why I prefer to pay with Risc-V over arm
misty saffron
this reminds me of the crab cpu meme
crisp granite
this panel was $300 with taxes, and I'm pretty sure my two HE will cost more than that even before caps, films and replacement stabs and lube
ashen spindle
I'm sold
crisp granite
CLAW architecture?
😋
I love shellfish
I want that PC, just so I can steam it and eat it
ashen spindle
also iirc my monitor was 5x the price of a lekker
ashen spindle
3440x1440p curved @100hz ips
misty saffron
thinking about it 120 is such a perfect number for tvs
24 fps, 30 fps, 60 fps content
all no problem
dry tendon
but then again id go for 240hz if i wanted more
misty saffron
doge can't tell if you're blind or braindamaged
crisp granite
doge can't tell if you're blind or braindamaged
forgot about it after reinstalling windows
ashen spindle
I'm just sad the new samsung VA panels are not yet a thing for curved wqhd monitors
think that would be what I could upgrade to
crisp granite
doesn't matter tbh, the one game I played since then already has a 60 fps frame rate cap for whatever fucking reason
misty saffron
fallout 76 moment
dry tendon
VA > IPS > TN otherwise
dry tendon
Yes new VA of course
ashen spindle
has anyone aside from samsung made a VA panel without smearing yet or is expected to make one?
crisp granite
Better blacks?
<insert boomer joke here>
crisp granite
amg e-53 or 911 targa 4s
lada
misty saffron
your mom
misty saffron
the amg is quite a bit cheaper..
crisp granite
cheaper than that?
dry tendon
Better blacks and superior response times on VAs
misty saffron
no than the targa
crisp granite
hollow
get something with a good suspension system
a track toy won't fare well on russian roads
misty saffron
jokes on you we have good roads
dry tendon
Good roads breed weak people. Weak people breed bad roads.
misty saffron
at least because i don't live in a village
crisp granite
at least because i don't live in a village
I've seen clips of potholes you could proper drown in, within cities in russia
dry tendon
I live in BUlgarias so our roads are a meme
misty saffron
roads in big cities are good
i'm moving to st petersburg in a month, roads there are good as well
moving hence need a new car
misty saffron
really want a sports car just because i can afford one
crisp granite
then get whatever tickles your fancy
crisp granite
¯_(ツ)_/¯
crisp granite
are those even road legal?
misty saffron
i mean, you can get a tesla too, but that's just retarded
we have no ev infrastructure
crisp granite
we have no ev infrastructure
yoooo
same here
the one place I know I can charge up an EV is in one parking lot in my city's downtown core
but for whatever reason, those parking spots are always occupied by gasoline powered cars
🙄
misty saffron
yeah and in russia most people live in apartment complexes
can't have your own charger
horribly nonviable
ashen spindle
hmm https://videocardz.com/newz/hwinfo-lists-intel-xmp-3-0-for-ddr5-memory-in-upcoming-software-changes
wonder what it does exactly aside from just supporting ddr5
ashen spindle
who thinks any non dlss form of using TAA to upscale brings good results
dry tendon
Computerbase honestly has the best overall review for FSR
ashen spindle
that's new I usually avoid any tech or gaming stuff coming from my country
neither tech is at a level yet where you cant make out the difference on either medium and once they are it's most likely good enough nobody will notice it
so sure, technically I agree
but as long as you dont watch it in 480p it wont matter for the result
cursive summit
Been said before
Rather sad a still capable card like the Fury is discontinued
Did he just n word
ashen spindle
no more driver support just means you dont get new drivers, you can still use them
cursive summit
@pale sigilWe got an n word over here
I know you got push notifications
I know you have desktop notifications
pale sigil
who
crisp granite
cal
pale sigil
@prisma crag naughty
crisp granite
thanks for reminding me to play with my legos, Locke
wheat plume
o.o
cursive summit
I think it's officially completely okay to say nogger
"Oh I just meant the ice cream, no offense"
Tbh I couldn't care less who said n words
The less we fear the words, the faster they'll go away
@prisma crag
@prisma crag
@prisma crag
crisp granite
trigger warning: potential trigger for leftist retards
anyway
does this mean this word is ok now as well?
cursive summit
Negro isn't n word
It's actually a way of saying black
Which is linguistically totally fine
crisp granite
in multiple languages
cursive summit
I actually thought negro is an insult
crisp granite
in turkish, it doesn't mean anything
crisp granite
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I love dairy
there's a fair bit of dairy in that too iirc
not really in chinese and other east asian
mainly in south asian cooking
not correct tbh
old marlin
Most asians are lactose intolerant
So few places would develop traditional milk based foods
crisp granite
So few places would develop traditional milk based foods
india, with paneer and various foods made from it
turkic people had a diet mainly of meats and dairy
that's a good chunk of "asian" peoples
old marlin
Are turkish people asian 
crisp granite
turkic, and yes, technically
old marlin
Ah
Nvm
Still not sure if they are of asian heritage
Or european like the russians
crisp granite
Still not sure if they are of asian heritage
originated in siberia
crisp granite
Mongolian heritage
nah, mongols are an off-shoot of that too
reef tundra
Most asians are lactose intolerant
Lactose tolerance is a recent mutation and most people are intolerant of lactose(somewhere in the 60% area). Probably mutated around Europe around 10000 years ago with the domestication of dairy animals.
Outside of Europe, Middle East and Northern Africa its unusual to be tolerant after childhood.
reef patrol
It's also not a binary thing.
A -LOT- of people have a mild intolerance and will never know.
reef tundra
Need to have the enzyme lactate to metabolise lactose and it gets consumed in the process. Full tolerance would need your body to replenish it faster than it gets used up
reef patrol
People are dumb. It's also why americans who come to europe suddenly don't have sickle cell... cause all they fucking needed was wholegrain bread 😄
wheat plume
I come back to the channel, see this and im much confused
reef patrol
reef tundra
High tech stuff
astral haven
Get a cheap one, a good PC and parsec
young pecan
Just mine in the off hours. 
That be the solution here as much as most people don’t like to entertain it. Nothing else makes sense other than just wait.
young pecan
Then buy a good GPU and fucking mine on it.
That's the only other reasonable option.
Nothing else is even remotely consistent, even the raffles have millions of people waiting, you average months of waiting.
Either you wait for the GPUs to become cheap which is late 2022 at the earliest, or you spend heaps of money.
atomic wharf
China is closing down on cryptomining sites so the drop in price would be sooner, unless the chip shortage continues into 2022
crisp granite
China is closing down on cryptomining sites so the drop in price would be sooner...
they're moving west to the former USSR
issues will still persist
atomic wharf
well at least less Chinese is mining after that, which consist of like 80% of the miner market
young pecan
well at least less Chinese is mining after that, which consist of like 80% of th...
Won't change shit since the miners move from China and simply set up shop elsewhere.
Slightly less profitable is still extremely profitable.
crisp granite
Won't change shit since the miners move from China and simply set up shop elsewh...
already pointed out
moving to kazakhstan
young pecan
Lmao
crisp granite
but not in search of pilaf
young pecan
Surprising nobody.
reef tundra
Pila?
cursive summit
BotW2 ain't even listed there
reef tundra
Aint that good
timid chasm
Maybe we won't be getting it until late 2022
Damn, all those games and only 2 semi-excite me 😦
reef tundra
Yea, and the countries aint too happy about it aswell. Atleast when they realise it
who the fuck is a.. wait is that a slur. sus
cursive summit
reef tundra
It is.
reef tundra
Imperialism bad, i know
cursive summit
This is tech channel
zenith sonnet
He's off the grid
reef tundra
Panels cost money
young pecan
._.
reef tundra
We have the ability to use the power net as a free battery (to the consumer). You only pay or get paid the difference in a period of time
young pecan
@prisma crag I literally have a solution for you, and it's easy.
Find a place to host the server farm.
reef tundra
Why are you so hellbent to get people to mine
young pecan
They're small and quiet if you do it right, just pay someone a tiny percentage to house it in their place. :P
...?
young pecan
Why are you so hellbent to get people to mine
Because it's an easy method for money and the more people mining the better I am in the long run.
It helps anyone that mines and me.
Win.
shrugs Parsec?
You're in america, the internet there is godly.
reef tundra
You're in america, the internet there is godly.
nice meme
young pecan
nice meme
Better than aus. :P
raised eyebrow Probably better than aussie.
:C
Ah, that's fucked.
reef tundra
Are you bragging about how bad it is?
reef tundra
Romania has crazy good internet for cheap prices. The only thing is you might need to manually splice the wire yourself
reef tundra
Since when is that a thing
Atleast it has a pizza named with it
Yes, they do suck up a lot of watts do their thinky
wheat plume
Whats the best way to plot 3 data points in Python?
but in a 2d plot
3 variables but in 2d plot
wheat plume
I suck too much at python to do this job ;-;
halcyon moss
statistics is a completely different field
most programmers are not good at statistics :p
reef tundra
Staticstics, why dream didnt cheat part 69
wheat plume
idk how I got this job.... my CV doesnt even mention Python as one of my best languages
and during the interview python wasnt mentioned either
halcyon moss
also, its just unrealistic to expect an intern to do statistics
reef tundra
Statistics as in just making the things or figuring out the what, why, how and such?
wheat plume
ye...but have you seen how complicated that is in python?!
Pandas framework alone has like 3 different types of syntax
halcyon moss
pandas != python
wheat plume
I know I know
old marlin
just learn R 
wheat plume
In pandas, sometimes you can use column names to refer to a column, sometimes you cant
and IDK WHY TF IT CHANGES
reef tundra
R is pretty nice for visualising stuff.
wheat plume
sometimes it uses names in one part of the line and sometimes it needs number
halcyon moss
there is probably a logical cause for it, but i dont see it either 😄
wheat plume
yeah....
halcyon moss
math, not even once
math peeps write insane code.
all the pandas examples i read were crazy and unreadable\
write once, read never
reef tundra
But are you tasked to just visual the given data in a certain way by a statistician or do you get to do that as well?
wheat plume
They have a website and now they want it to be made into an application
but IDK at this stage if we can just covert the existing plots and charts and shit into python or not
or do we need to display other stats
Going by what my supervisor says it seems to be new data
wheat plume
I have to use what im told to :/
reef tundra
Also dont use pi charts ever. Humans suck at reading those
wheat plume
He even said that one day .-.
and he doesnt want a 3d chart cause those are hard to understand too
reef tundra
Less is more
wheat plume
so I need to find a way to get 3 data points onto a 2d plot in a way that makes sense
wheat plume
oh... xd
young pecan
On the topic of programs anyone got any ideas why npm install is failing so hard?
Should install package.json and a folder of modules.
reef tundra
Javascript
wheat plume
you need sudo on linux to get it to work right
wheat plume
oh use -g for global
reef tundra
you need sudo on linux to get it to work right
oh god
young pecan
Look at this tormented shit.
wheat plume
oh this is in the project folder.... dont use -g
young pecan
It works with literally no flags.
None of them work.
And then if I switch to the LTSC version it works, but I need v16. ._.
wheat plume
you dont need flags in using that command in project files
timid chasm
from my experience "none of this stupid bullshit works" always comes back to me not doing something right
young pecan
Bruh, I've been over this cancer already.
timid chasm
may be some funky shit with windows being involved too
timid chasm
so keep v14 and forget 16
young pecan
I have to use v16.
young pecan
It doesn't actually install package.json.
halcyon moss
dont -g unless you really want to have it system wide. (which usually you do not)
young pecan
package-lock.json gets installed, nothing else.
young pecan
Works flawlessly on v14, what flag am I missing for v16?
I see no reason v14 should work but v16 shouldn't.
Unless I'm missing a flag or something.
reef tundra
From all I hear about npn is how terrible it works
halcyon moss
package-lock.json are the pinned versions of what is installed from package.json
young pecan
This is exactly why I like hardware.
halcyon moss
npm works fine tbh, and i even dont like it :p
reef tundra
better than manually handling all the crap
young pecan
Log.
It fails to install package.json then alerts me to such by saying it doesn't exist. No shit.
reef tundra
pwd
reef tundra
what if you yeet that lock file?
young pecan
Installs package-lock.json and then fails immediately before getting to install package.json.
reef tundra
young pecan
Utter cancer.
npm is now my most hated sotware in 6 months.
Does v16 just not install a package.json for reasons I guess?
halcyon moss
young pecan
Even though v14 does?
halcyon moss
tldr: npm ci
young pecan
npm can go die.
halcyon moss
you dont seem to have a package.json and only a pacakge-lock.json
reef tundra
That would be an easy task... btw never had the honour to use the mess other than letting pacman deal with it
halcyon moss
@young pecan is it downloading the internet yet?
young pecan
Lmao
halcyon moss
aka, did that work?
halcyon moss
it is what npm does very well
young pecan
sigh Fucking npm.
Right, so why doesn't v16 install package.json and package-lock.json with npm install like v14 does?
reef tundra
Dont fuck it, if you hate it 
reef tundra
Just like javascript will do sometimes
halcyon moss
javascript is actually quite stable because they need to support everything from the past
just.. sooo many new additions
halcyon moss
sooooo whomever you got this frommight be able to help
reef tundra
One day its depreciated, the other its not anymore, maybe its depreciated the next version and depreciate it again. 🤷♂️
That an thing that i have seen happen in javascript once. posts of just yea it works again and nah m8 depreciated in new verion
young pecan
ci is supposed to take package-lock.json and generate the other file, no?
halcyon moss
dont think ill generate it
reef tundra
Dont remember exactly what it was again. but did remember the joy of having to share that with the boys
young pecan
v16 doesn't get one of those.
reef tundra
Cant even get their installing up
Missing the AMD on that list
Asus motherboard don't have the best reputation around.. I believe hardware support and bios being the biggest pains
reef tundra
What if you only remove the case? The volume might be the factor; or weight, or how much they dislike something
dry tendon
Locke generally dislikes AMD parts. So he will have them missing. Honestly, Intel is nice if lower priced
Even if its EXTREMELY slow in old games
ashen spindle
better hope you then dont get the same issue bexin got with his rocket lake board that got both bios corrupted
reef tundra
Then get a TI-84plus calculator
young pecan
Weirdly enough I've found Intel the less stable team.
Other than their old stuff like the 2600, though.
Idk. As of late their quality seems to have slipped.
shrugs I'm just bored and putting off hammering my face into npm some more.
Huh. Haven't had that myself.
What're the issues?
Barely any.
reef tundra
Also how can you determine it to be representive data. Maybe intel users dont use discord as much?
young pecan
Could also be that a LOT of gamers are updating to Ryzen and a lot of them are on Discord since it's the best software for chats and such.
reef tundra
Intel also has their official forum
young pecan
That too.
zenith sonnet
That's because nobody really buys intel any more... AMD have like 85% or so of the DIY market ...
ashen spindle
dry tendon
IDK, current gen Ryzen is stable. Ryzen 1000 was rough but X99 launch was worse. People just dont remember cause memory = fail in most tech sites
reef tundra
survival ship bias?
zenith sonnet
I regret my X99...
ashen spindle
yes
dry tendon
I had a 3770 non-K on my brother's PC
replaced it with a Ryzen 2600
massive upgrade
but Ivy was nice yes
I loved Haswell. Which is literally 6% slower per clock than Skylake
reef patrol
Who would have thought pushing your hardware half a decade forward would help 😄
dry tendon
I dislike Intel's B560 and Z590 mobos tbh. Inferior to B550 and X570 in general
reef tundra
Prices are pretty inflated right now. Prices might be better in a year(hopefully)
dry tendon
If you could wait you can wait for 2nd gen DDR5 platforms
Eww consoles
Id rather quit gaming forever than use a console
reef tundra
Shipping seems to be exorbitantly expensive right now. But if you willing to pay for it at that price, thats your right.
dry tendon
What new games do you even want to play though?
reef tundra
Youtube's compressor has never been good with dark videos
Maybe you would like Xenonauts
reef tundra
m1 mac?
dry tendon
Get a B550 + 5600X combo and a 3080 or 6800 XT I think it is a better idea overall
since the 3060 Ti is slightly above a PS5 in capability
and the 11700K will not last a whole console gen (of course neither will the 5600X but the 5900X will)
Are 6800s cheap where you are? they are 3060 Ti prices here
young pecan
At what price?
dry tendon
Still overpriced though...
young pecan
I guess you're never getting a GPU, then. :L
reef tundra
Cloud gaming is also not an option with your network, atleast from thats what I remember you complain a lot about
reef tundra
4790 is a little too vague
dry tendon
4790 a Devil's Canyon CPU
oh yeah.
It was AMD
It had ATI branding
I had the 5770
HEre is my 5770 Batmobile
young pecan
If I were rich as fuck I'd give out a bunch of GPUs.
dry tendon
I wouldnt say skullfucking Nvidia = competition lol
young pecan
Still so poor, tho. :L
dry tendon
It was a clear cut win mostly . The opposite of some of the past few years
I want nigh-equal not one stomping the other
ATM I think its a good situation overall with RDNA2 vs Ampere
reef tundra
I'd does bring some innovative stuff on the market but Nvidia is feeling invincible or something
young pecan
Oh no, no no.
Companies love that word...
So long as it's not applied to anyone but them.
reef tundra
DLSS and FSR are not competitors to be quite realistic. They work fundamentally diffent (and can even run together?not sure)
young pecan
Can't have anyone else getting value out of you, that's unacceptable.
Gouge the wallets!
reef patrol
DLSS and FSR are not competitors to be quite realistic. They work fundamentally ...
Sure - You can blur the blur. I doubt it'll help FPS though.
Ultimately it'll be a question of how good FSR is compared to DLSS. And how much money is put into exclusives.
If nVidia ends up bribing all of the AAA studios to block FSR, then FSR will have a hard time dealing.
reef tundra
Amd has the huge advantage of being on consoles and licence being cheaper
reef patrol
I don't really see console owners being a factor. They're getting whatever they're getting anyway. PC is the battlefield for who gets to survive.
dry tendon
I dont know Locke
reef patrol
But of course having FSR there means more resources into dev. Which could help FSR out...as long as nVidia doesn't lock them out 😄
dry tendon
RX 6800 is an easy ROFLstomp vs 3070 Ti.
6700 XT needs a cut price
6800 XT has more VRAM, is nowadays just as fast as a 3080 at 4K and slightly faster at 1440p and doesnt suck at PC Game modding
6900 XT is a meme so is 3080 Ti and 3090
I do think 6800 XT vs 3080 = equal choice
6800 vs 3070 Ti = COmplete AMD victory no questions asked
6700 XT vs 3060 Ti or 3070 = I lean Nvidia strongly due to too high price on 6700 XT
reef tundra
Why bother implementing dlss if fsr works on both patforms and does the job good enough. Nvidia is not a stranger to bribing and trying to get exclusivity though.
dry tendon
Well consider this. The 3070 Ti is a 4K class chip that stutters sometimes even at 1440p due to too little VRAM
IMHO a fail
same for 3070 tbh
3060 Ti I allow it
I said 1440p too though. And gaming
if you are at 1080p then 8gb is still fine I agree, especially if you dont mod
Though RDNA2 has a small edge there sometimes
Fair. So if you are at 1080p a 3060 Ti will do well
but I hope you see my reasoning above. I think I am fair
Oof.
DLSS 2.2 ghosting actually
This is why I personally dont use FSR or DLSS. Only native.
Yes. Exactly.
reef tundra
Nah dont worry retrowave man its intentional
wheat plume
Hot take:
I prefer high details and crispy graphics in a cartoony, mariokart like style than low res and muddy ultra realistic style
dry tendon
It doesnt fix it. In some games it helps though.
The dll for DLSS 2.2 helps but its just not enough
reef patrol
This is why I personally dont use FSR or DLSS. Only native.
Some of us care more about fps than some rather fitting speed effects 😄
But to each their own of course.
dry tendon
Some of us care more about fps than some rather fitting speed effects 😄
Of course. I am speaking for myself here
reef patrol
This is where FSR technically wins out. Cause it's all human. No AI.
reef tundra
Then go 4k. Go big or total slideshow
reef patrol
However DLSS can find optimizations a human might not 😄
dry tendon
I am one of those people who have mastered the ancient art of waiting
I dont need to play a game right now when its new
😛 I can wait for patches/drivers and a new GPU to experience it later
I am yet to beat CB 2077 exactly due to that
I am giving them time to fix their shit and for RTX 4000 and RDNA 3 to come out
reef tundra
false
reef tundra
reef patrol
#playItOnPC
reef tundra
Looks a lot like a vss vintorez to me...
dry tendon
Well cause it is ? 😛 a VSS and a VSSM
reef tundra
AS VAL HYPE
Plastique is great for purely structural pieces. Still need metal to have a chance to withstand the blast
Wild pigs?
pale sigil
i could never kill an animal unless it was self defense or survival
reef tundra
I guess thats correct, all I know is to either to shoot them or get the fuck away from them. (dont run away. just back out slowly)
reef patrol
pale sigil
fish also, i dont entirely mind catching a fish toeat
reef patrol
Enter hypocrisy
reef tundra
Im not [], but
pale sigil
rats are awful
reef tundra
Interesting development
misty saffron
what is the new bot
pale sigil
one that can ban you for x amount of time
reef tundra
Rats are easy to deal with, kill all on sight
pale sigil
i mean
tbf
ill only kill rats if they are entering my house or ruining me garden
😄
misty saffron
banning for getting exposed huh
reef tundra
Mice are more acceptable for their smaller size unlike rats
reef tundra
Not when they found your grain supply
reef tundra
The gun just ticks at the target
dry tendon
Yeah but technically .300 blackout should be better than 9x39 SP-6
reef tundra
Tell him he is a cold blooded killer
young pecan
r/technicallythetruth
wheat plume
Discord, you doing ok here?
cursive summit
reef tundra
Discord just felt a little lonely
wheat plume
:')
dry tendon
6600 XT woont be a POS like 5600 XT
reef tundra
but will we be able to get them at all?
young pecan
What’s the 6600XT equivalent to? 3060?
dry tendon
Seems to be a 3060 competitor
perhaps faster in raster, slower in RT, with less VRAM
so Id choose 3060 if similar price
reef tundra
What for
dry tendon
we are in a new console generation
Even 8Gb isnt enough for some games at 1440p. In a few even without RT on (which uses more VRAM)
cursive summit
@ashen spindle
I need your opinion
I read that graphics in general look better on AMD than Nvidia cards
ashen spindle
bullshit
comes up everytime either brand makes some changes to default settings in driver or so
wheat plume
dont see how thats possible
dry tendon
Not true
reef tundra
That sounds like a colour misconfiguration or something
dry tendon
at same settings for monitor / screen it will be the same
Only if you change them will NV or AMD have better or worse
ashen spindle
if you see a difference it's from different base settings in drivers which shouldn't be the case, for example if you mess with the rgb spectrum in the control panel
whenever someone vehemently states that position and wants to convince you its true, you just found the most obvious sign you are talking to an extreme fanboy
cursive summit
Dunno I read how a guy bought a 3080, and a 6800XT, and the games visibly looked better on 6800XT
reef tundra
Proving the case would be easy to do. Same monitor, no special settings, and directly compare results directly.
dry tendon
Then something on his settings got borked
reef tundra
You can also take a picture with identical setup and directly subtract them from eachother in photoshop or something..
ashen spindle
sounds like some sharpening filter was activated/deactivated from not a proper driver removal or something along those lines
or the monitor has some pseudo smart thing and changes what color mode it uses on default if its on hdmi or dp input etc.
cursive summit
Tbh isn't the FidelityFX suite quite good for enhancing image quality?
ashen spindle
yeah it's ok, same for nvidias overlay filter thing
reef tundra
Also keep in mind the human mind is involved
ashen spindle
quite decent in some cases, doing nothing in others
after all, if they would show different pictures when the shader is the same, that would require them to do the math vastly differently and that would result in a mess and not generally worse/better pictures lol
reef tundra
Just your idea of the object can change how you experience something. This is common to see in candy, the colour changes how we taste them differently
cursive summit
Like for me I love sharpening being really strong
I guess my 1080p display prefers that
Others kinda hate "oversharpened" images
misty saffron
ashen spindle
also greatly depends on the game how big the changes are
dry tendon
I hope for greater 4K adoption by PC Gamers
ashen spindle
art style alone makes massive differences in how noticeable the result it
ashen spindle
sharpening mario kart vs sharpening skyrim will have quite a different result for the eye
dry tendon
FFX = something implemented by the developers
FSR = something by devs
Radeon Contrast Adaptive Sharpening (RIS) = neutral, you can use it from the driver menu
cursive summit
RIS is the one I'm thinking about
reef tundra
often its hard to notice the differences unless you directly compare or actively focussing on the graphics. Atleast for me
dry tendon
Lower 1 setting
I think 5700 XT and 2070S are the start of 4K class GPUs
I used a 5700 XT just fine with 4K
No, alas 5700 XT doesnt have HDMI 2.1
young pecan
I just can't do less than 120 now.
dry tendon
so it cannot do 4K120 in the only screens that dont suck while being 4K 120 😦
young pecan
It's too smooth.
dry tendon
I dont shit on consoles cause of their hardware though
I shit on them for lack of modding / emulation / backwards compatibility / lack of choices with them
wheat plume
Yeah.... Once you get past the initial price of getting a good gaming computer, everything else is a lot cheaper than on a console :D
dry tendon
I would rather use a Vega 11 Ryzen 3400G is a gaming machine than a PS5. I am quite upfront about that
wheat plume
I shit on them for lack of modding / emulation / backwards compatibility / lack ...
backwards compatibility is great on Xbox though?
crisp granite
I shit on them for lack of modding / emulation / backwards compatibility / lack ...
the one console game I know I can mod is fallout 4, funnily enough
young pecan
Lack of modding and emulation, though?
crisp granite
at least on Xbox
dry tendon
Its still extremely limited compared to a PC
cursive summit
crisp granite
they allow for bethesda.net mods to be installed and run
young pecan
Can't just pull files from Nexus and go to town with a console.
wheat plume
Minecraft <3 best open world game
young pecan
The fuck? xD
crisp granite
Minecraft <3 best open world game
dry tendon
STALKER NLC 7 > RDR2, GTA, Witcher, Cyberpunk, Far Cry, Fallout 4, original STALKER suicide
young pecan
The list of moddable games is enormous.
wheat plume
^
crisp granite
minecraft truly is the best game
young pecan
Just the GTA games alone have been heavily modded for almost as long as I've been alive.
What games do you play?
dry tendon
Possible, but the point is - it matters
I care for graphics and performance because I am an enthusiast about the tech
But I dont think those are major selling points
For gaming
cursive summit
young pecan
BRUH.
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH.
Muse Dash, Dead Cells, Hades, Noita, Kingdom all have mods.
wheat plume
I had SMB Banan Blitz on Wii xd
dry tendon
https://gnd-tech.com/2017/06/remembering-our-heritage-popular-games-that-began-as-mods/
Never forget this.
wheat plume
I could not beat level cause it was too hard xd
young pecan
I don't even know of Marble or Crimzon so idk about those.
young pecan
Hades has some QOL mods plus various improvements to the graphics.
ReShade and some other stuff that classes as mods.
Very small scene, but it's there.
Did I say that?
Read correctly, bud.
ashen spindle
https://www.nexusmods.com/hades just a handful of like 5 pages I guess
young pecan
Well shit, there's even more stuff.
dry tendon
This is a good article. Yes I wrote it but I stand by it
at least give it a read. You may see why at least we like modding so much
Fair enough.
Same. I started when I was 3 😦 back in 1998 too. But i didnt know enough back then (obviously)
halcyon moss
i thought you were a lot older
dry tendon
I thought he was younger
old marlin
dry tendon
I am 25 and I already wanna die so IDK
crisp granite
https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gi...
bad vexxsie
ashen spindle
wccftrash
ashen spindle
yeah but if half or more of the writing staff just writes bs and wrong technical info it's just not worth figuring out if another article by chance is accurate
cursive summit
yeah but if half or more of the writing staff just writes bs and wrong technical...
I stil lthink the trashest thing about Wccftech
Is the comments section
ashen spindle
never even went that far on their page
but putting old/wrong data on the site, not citing sources etc. was enough for me to see to just not visit it at all
reef patrol
This isn't a clickbaity topic
Proceeds to mention literally everything you want from a word processor
That man is projecting so hard. It's funny to listen to. But not particularly useful.
pale sigil
Fuck apple for not allowing me to mount my external drive
reef patrol
I mean... to GET a PDF, you usually involve a word processor (whether automated or otherwise) first 😄
ashen spindle
his mindset is the perfect example of why linux wont beat windows in userbase in the next 30 years
why yes, I totally love to use 30 different tools because I'd rather have 2 more extra customisation options instead of using what I get and focus on writing
wheat plume
if you ignore all the hate
He is basically saying that it is better to start writing in a plain text editor so you arent distracted by formatting and texzt size and font and whatnot
and then when you are done typing what you want to type, you can then open an app to format and make it look all pretty
and I agree with that
reef patrol
if you ignore all the hate
He is basically saying that it is better to start wri...
But here's the thing. People aren't "distracted"
99% of Microsoft Word users literally never change away from the default ones. Unless their place of employment (or schools) have specific demands.
wheat plume
I know I have on like a few occasions taken too long to seperate and indent headlines and sub headlines and things xd
ashen spindle
ok but thats a you problem of wanting to make look things pretty before its relevant
if you just don't use the options and disable stuff like auto correct if you want, using word ends up doing the same as using notepad
wheat plume
true
dry tendon
I use Word. Can someone tell me the general argument of that dude?
I will see vid later
wheat plume
the video has too much hate xd just read my TLDW version
reef patrol
Don't use word - Cause it has too many options to customize the way the document looks. And apparently EVERYONE stops typing and spends an eternity on looks
dry tendon
No matter what you are writing.
Ehh it depends. Short stories and books - start with the idea of formatting from the get go
wheat plume
Like how you build a website, all the HTML and function and then the CSS to make it look good
dry tendon
it will be easier that way for yourself
ashen spindle
yes but you see, on linux there is VIM and that is the godlike entity you should write in and not use anything else because its not needed
crimson wigeon
Betrayal
wheat plume
:')
ashen spindle
I really dont care, I wasn't even sure if he even uses linux
but that just further proves my point
wheat plume
Thats why I said ignore the hate for Microsoft xd
ashen spindle
but even then it's obvious he's not looking at word from the standpoint of people it was made for
wheat plume
I agree with his core argument
Text first
Formatting later
ashen spindle
sure but then maybe the video should say that and not be the hidden meaning of it
reef tundra
If formatting is a concern use latex
wheat plume
He does suggest latex
reef patrol
I genuinely don't know a single soul who does what this guy claims.
Closest I can think of is when schools have demands for line density, font size and a total word count.
You gotta spend maybe 30 seconds on this - Because it saves you time later.
reef tundra
Those or mostly for readability reasons or minimal amount of content
dry tendon
I find formatting fun since its basically optimization for aesthetics
ashen spindle
and the biggest issue is people not using it correctly for school, instead of setting it up once and then have it ready as a template, everyone just starts from default settings for every new text
crisp granite
I find formatting fun since its basically optimization for aesthetics
it's actually practical as well
reef tundra
dry tendon
Ive used Libre and Word. Honestly... for a noob like me they are equal. I just use Word cause I install it on most PCs since my parents cant use other Office apps
ashen spindle
what he means to say I agree with, how he says it and makes the video, nope, please go back to your linux cave and leave me alone
wheat plume
ye
reef tundra
Word processors suck at dealing with images and text :)
reef patrol
and the biggest issue is people not using it correctly for school, instead of se...
This for sure - I've tried to tell teachers this repeatedly at course starts. But they don't pass it on, and students don't think ahead 😄
ashen spindle
yea it definitely is partly to blame on teachers not making that a clear point
reef tundra
That was the thing you get it for. Not the actual card
dry tendon
*I wont
wheat plume
Cant wait for all the scalper bots to buy it all out immediately :D
reef tundra
You mean contacting your nvidia representitive and preordering some of them :P
wheat plume
200 go to reviewers and only 100 available for public purchase
ashen spindle
scalper bots
raffle
?
reef tundra
No because nvidia hates you
young pecan
Feels bad.
reef tundra
and that is how they make sure you know
young pecan
I half agree.
reef tundra
Self contridicting
young pecan
The same company making the waifu cards makes a bunch of other ones.
They have some pretty cool designs.
dry tendon
I prefer the previous gen card's looks
reef tundra
I prefer it be in stock
wheat plume
^
dry tendon
From reference / founders cards the best looking ones are Maxwell Reference
https://tpucdn.com/gpu-specs/images/c/2621-front.jpg
young pecan
Y'know what we're missing? Old style 2005 transparent plastic cards.
wheat plume
ah yes
young pecan
I want that.
wheat plume
the prison tech design
dry tendon
ashen spindle
just gimme whatever performs best lmao
dry tendon
Vega 56 reference
ashen spindle
I only see my card if I open my pc
young pecan
This kind of shit I would love to make a return to PC components.
dry tendon
And nowdays Turing Reference grew on me
wheat plume
This kind of shit I would love to make a return to PC components.
and color options
young pecan
Being able to see all of the internal components. I did always like that.
young pecan
and color options
YES!
wheat plume
:D