🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

So ye no clue syncing I'm afraid

Just sync chain

Which is fine as long as at least one device doesn't die

https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021218111-How-do-I-set-up-Sync-

[reef patrol]

Oh my gosh. It even imported all of my extensions.

UHHHHH.

[wheat plume]

🤔

[ashen spindle]

oh so they went back to blockchain for financing brave?

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol you can disable thst

Brave has a wallet system

Where you can earn currency for ads

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/article/how-to-disable-the-brave-rewards-feature/

Irs a weird cool system

You can choose to give them rewards to certain content creators etc

[reef patrol]

Oh for fucks sake. Brave won't let me disable hover cards either.

https://tenor.com/view/re-gif-21352684

[ashen spindle]

[reef patrol]

I am so fucking done with chromium...

[cursive summit]

Welcome back to Firefox

[reef patrol]

Or the fucking search... it's literally the same...

Welp. Guess we're trying Firefox...sigh

[cursive summit]

Once you go firefox, you never go back

All the good stuff is there

[pale sigil]

Wait

Brave has hover cards?

[reef tundra]

Im going back to firefox for the lack of containers i currently have. Plus I could fool sites to be a user still on windows nt running chrome. Also the fingerprinting blocking is much better

[reef patrol]

It has the exact same bullshit as Chrome does, yes.

[reef tundra]

Same rendering engine

[cursive summit]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/firefox-now-blocks-cross-site-tracking-by-default-in-private-browsing/

[reef patrol]

And apparently same limitations. They don't have the flags to disable them anymore either...

[reef tundra]

Remember someone asking for something like this

https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/#about_config

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit cos you know, people always use private mode

For anything other than porn

[cursive summit]

I use private mode for 1) watching shit I don't want to influence my personalization 2) Porn

[reef tundra]

Why? what if you forgot about that one video and you want to watch that porn again

[pale sigil]

That is a good point

The first one

Sometimes I do thst too

[cursive summit]

Usually the shit I watch in private are barely random things

That I don't really intend to view again anytime soon

[thick elk]

Something I use a lot with firefox is the profilemanager. It's nice to have a separate work / home / porn profile.

[reef tundra]

Atleast the boss will understand you dont mix porn and work together then

[thick elk]

It's my own pc, boss does not get access to that anyway.

It's just generally nice to have the histories / bookmarks and such not mix

[reef tundra]

Its marked as the porn folder so don't be surprised to find out it contains porn

[wheat plume]

Im surprised I didnt get a work computer or laptop considering I had to sign a nondisclosure agreement and everytime he sends me anything he has to verify with me that I wont ever talk about this to anyone

[reef tundra]

via the email?

[wheat plume]

we use teams to chat

[reef tundra]

But how will you access it without a machine?

[wheat plume]

huh?

[reef tundra]

If you let workers use their personal equipment it should be accepted that all that data will be lost or stolen if one of the machines begins to misbehave

[wheat plume]

he sends me what I need when I need to work on something I dont have already

which is not fun when I need something he sent a few months back and its another name as to what he thinks its called

[reef tundra]

And as the company doesnt own those machines, they cant enfore you to use anti virus software or anything. Thus they are allowing unknown machines to acces the data

[wheat plume]

Yeah, its a risk I dont understand why they are taking

considering Im not allowed to show anyone anything

[reef tundra]

They wont be able to do shit if someone accidentally brings a worm into the network

[wheat plume]

My friend got a surface tablet with antivirus and shit installed and it can only connect to their "VPN" thingy before it allows you to access internet and it tracks everything he does to ensure their data is safe

[ashen spindle]

calculating cost for the risk of you breaching contract vs cost of making it super secure

[reef tundra]

Which is the norm in most companies dealing with sensitive information

[ashen spindle]

also depends on how sensitive the data you get access to actually is

[pale sigil]

I think I'll try to get a 3070ti at msrp

Keyword try

[halcyon moss]

dont you already have a great gpu?

[reef tundra]

I think I'll fail to get a 3070ti at for 100 gp in runescape

[pale sigil]

Yes but I don't use it

I have a 3080 is rather sell and use a 3070ti if I could get it at msrp

[reef tundra]

Someone would advise you to mine on it especially bitcoins

[pale sigil]

Not atm

It's pretty bad

[reef tundra]

Then mine more

[ashen spindle]

no you dont mine bitcoins on gpu

the rest is still as lucrative as it should never be sadly

[reef tundra]

So now they wont give out the cards instead?

[reef patrol]

I think ASUS finally learned to up their MSRP a tad. 😄

Cause they were basically THE single most popular 3080.

[reef tundra]

What if they did a big brain and overproduced, selling at the lowest price and keeping it there, people will talk only about how affordable and available your brand is.

[ashen spindle]

no such thing as overproduction in this year

[reef tundra]

hyperproduction then

[old marlin]

?

to be fair

[reef tundra]

Would be a very 6D checkmate move if intentional.

[old marlin]

even the last 2 gens have been thinner than a razer blade pro

intel CPUs though

[reef tundra]

Dont people want to have a laptop with more rigidity than a piece of paper

[old marlin]

I mean

they still do that

a51 does not sell well though

and like I said

[reef tundra]

They just feel weird. Like you are one gust of wind away from disaster

[old marlin]

last 2 gens have been pretty thin

under 17mm

afaik the r2 revisions had no thermal problems

with a 3080

[reef tundra]

One class mate saw their laptop flying like a tissue paper after someone tripped over the power cable lmao

[old marlin]

but seeing some actual improvment in laptop coolers would be nice

lol

yea magsafe was a good idea

if htey did USB C charging you could put other cables on

buuut

power limits

[reef tundra]

It didnt disengange when the person tripped but got disconnected when it went flying

[old marlin]

[reef tundra]

The worst combo

Also a little heft in the laptop makes it suitable for self defence

And they will be destroyed by the first fall they get

[old marlin]

gaming laptops got a lot better build quality in the last few years

[reef tundra]

Current laptop survived 2 falls and me landing on it twice

[old marlin]

current laptop is well insured

even against accidents

idk how dell still thinks that is a good idea to have as an insurance option

but they can bet their ass that my laptop will mysteriously die within the warranty period

[reef tundra]

This does mean you will use a dell machine for longer

[old marlin]

what else should I use

for a laptop

lenovo with dogshit design

hp pricing ain't that good

and the rest is the same chinese OEM rebrands

they prob still are

but mine was 2.4k€

[reef tundra]

Dell also likes to make their brand for the classy bussinessman

[old marlin]

including the warranty

for a 9700k and a 2080

oh yea

still is

will prob get expanded with hyperx within the next 12 months

[reef tundra]

Dells insurance was worth it in my case

[old marlin]

yea

it ain't cheap

but it is good

yea if it breaks it might be out for a month

[reef tundra]

payed like 100 eur. The screen alone is that price, then they replaced most of the plastic parts with any damage, even replaced some cable i broke during my exploration when it went kaput. and waited for the mailman to pick it up

[old marlin]

lol

[reef tundra]

No questions other than which serial number and verifing the address

two weeks later it came back as new

Which was nice when I was busy getting my front teeth also fixed from that fall

[old marlin]

I have onsite support

even better

support guy is there the next day usually

and comes with the part

[reef tundra]

The accidental damage was actually 25 euros looking back at the email

lol

[old marlin]

lol

yea the additional cost of accidental damage is low af

imo a braindead upgrade on a laptop

[reef tundra]

They accept anything except blatent fraud attempy or theft

Its one year tho, and one claim per year :)

[old marlin]

ye

well

"blatant fraud" is hard to proove

if I have the laptop in my hand while it is open and it falls down it is most likely dead

at least the screen is

[reef tundra]

Wait they apparantly repaired it in 3 days yeez

[pale sigil]

Jesus

My Rasberry pi shut donw due to heat

knocked out my entire network

[wheat plume]

O.o

[pale sigil]

i touched it like an idiot

xD

finger burnt

[wheat plume]

🤦🏼‍♀️

[old marlin]

[reef tundra]

Your entire network is dependant on a raspberry pi to work?

[old marlin]

uhh yea kinda

almost any network is vulnerable to one device majorly messing up

[reef tundra]

Normally that is what you want to avoid as much as possible

[reef patrol]

PiHole I imagine?

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/Vtkk-_0jrPU

I didn't see this posted before

TL;DR

It's shit.. for that price.

[crisp granite]

well duh

no one is gonna pay $1.2k MSRP, and then more on the scalped market for what should be an $800 product

[ashen spindle]

at least they only got black screen issues sometimes and not like der8auer who couldnt get his card to run untill he changed monitor

[young pecan]

We’ll have to see how it performs in mining.

[reef tundra]

I dunno volkwagen makes some very shitty cars if the price was 10 million euros

[young pecan]

Maybe it’ll be viable with an altcoin.

Something not based on Ethash.

[crisp granite]

that's the issue with the Eth hash rate limiters

[cursive summit]

Go fuck yourself Aeon

Leave cards to gamers

[young pecan]

Lmao

[crisp granite]

if only NVidia were actually through on locking down their cards for mining

[ashen spindle]

60MH at 220W or so is what we saw from a leak

[young pecan]

Wym? I’m playing 37 instances of Minecraft at once. :P

[zenith sonnet]

Wonder why Nvidia does not get the same amount of shit as AMD got for the black screen issues

[young pecan]

@ashen spindle With what currency?

[ashen spindle]

eth

[young pecan]

Well yeah, no shit it sucks for Eth.

What about something like Ravencoin?

[crisp granite]

that at 220w, yikes

[reef tundra]

What you do is you get a bunch of miners who just make coins for themselves. People buy some coins raising its value and when it has reached the peak the miners just up and go.

Ez scheme

[ashen spindle]

idk thats all we have from leaks so far

and sure its worse than the 3080 but I think it still makes money so I'd assume any more optimized option also makes money and at a faster rate sadly

[young pecan]

Very pog.

I’ll have to buy a couple.

My contact can prolly find a few for a reasonable price.

[ashen spindle]

but im now mostly waiting to see if roman gets an answer for his issue, I never heard of a monitor causing a card to not boot

cable sure, but monitor?

and it worked with his other cards lmao

[young pecan]

Probably something to do with the LHR fuckery.

[ashen spindle]

hmm maybe?

idk, hence its interresting unlike the actual card lol

[crisp granite]

the actual card is 2080 super 2.0

[young pecan]

Be interesting to see how the dust settles when the LHR line actually drops.

[reef tundra]

Monitor is a slave to the gpu. the GPU decides what it shows and what it doesnt.

[crisp granite]

but more expensive than the original card

which is just odd

[young pecan]

Be very interesting to see how Eth reacts.

I’d bet a panic and drop, that’s when I strike.

[crisp granite]

Doge might end up hitting 2, or even 3 whole dollars

[young pecan]

Nah.

[crisp granite]

seems possible, people are gonna shift to something else

[young pecan]

Not like it currently is, that’d make the market cap 300 billion dollars.

Doge needs to begin halving and sharding for that to work.

[ashen spindle]

yeah doge is literally made with the intent to make a token less valueable over time

[young pecan]

^

[ashen spindle]

thats why depending on what the rate on that is, they might never beat the ATH they had even if lets say in a year bitcoin would reach 500k

[young pecan]

^^

Unless they do halving and some serious PR.

[ashen spindle]

which is the opposite of what the creator made it for, so unlikely

[young pecan]

Sharding to make it economically viable.

But yeah, the creator made it as a fuckaround in 2 hours.

Very much doubt on Doge exploding to a massive amount of value.

Unless a 51% attack happens. (Guess what isn’t happening)

[reef tundra]

Doge coin is a meme coin and ended up becoming a pump and dump.

[crisp granite]

a 51% attack?

[young pecan]

A single entity owning 51% of a blockchain and thus having operational control over the blockchain.

[crisp granite]

it would cost so much to do so, though

[young pecan]

It’s an attack by owning a majority of it, not viable here.

Billions upon billions of dollars.

The amount of people capable of that is less than 100.

[crisp granite]

watch as elon conducts a 51% attack to monetize on Doge

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[reef tundra]

I own 100% of all the scamcoin of the world. Am i now rich?

patent pending

[crisp granite]

why don't I start a scam coin, call them crusty cum coins, and get them circulated and accepted as a valid crypto

and then ensure I have at least 51% of it at a given time

[reef tundra]

And then we buy the rest

with the 51%

wait

[crisp granite]

I don't think crypto has value if one person has all of it

[ashen spindle]

that is what happend or was tried to be done with some scamcoins

and will be a thing people continue to try

[crisp granite]

but no one has done it with crusty cum coins

🧠

[reef tundra]

Like trickle dum ecofakonimics?

[crisp granite]

or "tripC" for short

[crisp granite]

trickle down economics is something the rich tell everyone so that they can justify tax cuts for themselves

[halcyon moss]

i still cant believe ppl buy that argument

[crisp granite]

which they don't need, fund the politicians with your money and they will play by your rules

no need to lie to people

[reef tundra]

The only thing that trickles down is less volatility of the currency thus making it less usefull

One hoards all the money and the other cant use the money they have left. result? Economic depression

[crisp granite]

that's why we should tax money hoarding, not having lots of money

because money flowing is good

money sitting idle is not

[reef tundra]

Keep it rolling or else your head will be rolling next

[young pecan]

That’s the goal, no?

Horde money until you can spend it on good things.

Don’t horde money for the sake of it.

[reef tundra]

What you needing billions for ?

[halcyon moss]

hoard*

[ashen spindle]

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1400090070791507974 hey @shadow minnow it's your configuration

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

Calling it now, disappointment PC 2021: Core i9-11900K + GeForce RTX 3080 Ti.

Twitter · Jun 2, 2021, 2:00 PM

[shadow minnow]

I am not even looking at 3080 ti reviews 3080 ti just sucks tbh

[misty saffron]

horde money?

we in 1200s?

[shadow minnow]

Either gonna get 3080 or if I really wanted to spend more 3090

[young pecan]

11900k, tho.

Such a joke of a processor.

[reef tundra]

Plot twist

[young pecan]

Especially with the new cache improvements for AMD. It’s made even more of a joke.

[crimson wigeon]

Watch it will still get more FPS in certain games

And thus be better

[young pecan]

shrugs Disagree.

[ashen spindle]

you mean the game microsoft Excel

[young pecan]

Both CPUs are capable of pushing 300FPS in most titles.

Very few displays can even run that fast.

What does it matter if the per core can push 300FPS when above 200 minimum isn’t useful compared to extra cores for scaling?

[reef tundra]

You mean the game "VW emition test"

[young pecan]

It’s like the CS:GO argument.

oH iNteL iS bEttER!!1!11 Bruh...

They both do 600FPS.

Who even cares at that stage?

[reef tundra]

VW at 5600FPS in their emissions pog

[young pecan]

Idk if you even can detect an improvement at that kind of scale. Maybe slight latency improvements, but does that even matter?

At anything over 300FPS that seems remarkably pointless. Ergo is more value not had with more cores so stuff running Vulkan can scale better?

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/XaHWcttD0tM

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/sXKkeFUvgTM?t=39

[wheat plume]

is it really this easy to reverse a string in python?! wow

oh wow, it is :O

[wheat plume]

UwU

oo pretty

wait, alpenglow works on Linux now?!

oh, you dont have alpenglow

its a theme

[crimson wigeon]

It's supposed to change based whether your system theme is dark or light I think

[wheat plume]

ahhh

what panel are you using?

oh

the confusing af one

Plasma desktop might be getting the option to make the panel float, I know one of the devs implemented that feature but i think he didnt commit it for adding to the actual desktop yet

cause he shows it off in one of his videos once hes done making it

https://youtu.be/i9ARWuOYC8o

https://youtu.be/vjFy_EwfE-Y he has it in this too but its not the video topic

[timid chasm]

Wait, they called the 3080 Ti "thai"? and not tee-eye?

[ashen spindle]

secret code they successfully abducted princess Lisa

wut, nobody in europe buys it from best buy

not that I know

NBB/ldlc get the FE stock for most EU contries

I think spain italy and some others might have stock allocation somewhere else

stores that dont exit in the us

ldlc is the store name cant really tell you more lol

[crisp granite]

I wonder what Best Buy Canada is doing with the 3080Tis

[timid chasm]

Giving them all to Linus

[crisp granite]

or if they're even gonna sell them here

[ashen spindle]

notebooksbilliger.de

[timid chasm]

are we writing professional papers here?

[ashen spindle]

ye idk what difference it makes when its a store you wont know and its clear its a store

[timid chasm]

also "nbb gpu store" in a search engine gives you what you need if you really need to know

[ashen spindle]

either way, eu wont be affected by whatever a US store does

[timid chasm]

Oh yeah, NVIDIA still sells cards directly in EU I forgot

[ashen spindle]

same time as they stopped the US sales they stopped eu sales and send them to some retailers

[timid chasm]

Ah, gotcha

[ashen spindle]

not sure, I know NBB has allocations for benelux and germany, ldlc for some others countries

no clue where poland or so would get them from

UK is probably scan?

nbb has physical stores, idk about the others

[crisp granite]

so...

it's $120 of cheap merch

🙄

just buy the ultimate edition at that point, you get the game and every single piece of content that will be released for it

[zenith sonnet]

Lel

It's like Rocket Lake in Green

[shadow minnow]

[crimson wigeon]

Nice

[zenith sonnet]

Damn, I did not know the 6800XT/6900XT coolers where that good

[wheat plume]

Anyone know the default MacOS Big Sur UI font?

[cursive summit]

I just wish I could get a 6800XT

Sick card

[thick elk]

I could but I am definitely not going to pay the current price for it.
Switching away from Nvidia's linux drivers + the performance improvement just is not worth it for me at this time.

When I bought my gtx1080 I had no real choice as my previous card died during the mining boom, but now I can just wait.

I usually game on my 1440p 155hz monitor, still a lower framerate works fine too most of the time.

It helps that I really don't game that much anymore and when I do it's usually not the most intensive games.

[dry tendon]

If people accept High instead of Ultra settings, 4K 100 fps is fairly easy on 6800 XT and 3080

[crimson wigeon]

How could you do that?!

Maxed out is the only way!

[astral haven]

thats not temp normalized lol

noise normalized they are pretty garbage

[dry tendon]

Dumb PC gamers who thought their shitty as 1080 Tis should be able to max out games killed this.

[dry tendon]

They are decent. Around Nvidia FE level

[astral haven]

Same temperatures sure

[dry tendon]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/images/noise-normalized-temperature.png

[astral haven]

That's fe?

[dry tendon]

Yes

[astral haven]

Well yikes

[dry tendon]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/34.html

This is from the original review

[astral haven]

Oh hunh

[dry tendon]

BTW I disagree with this since its not possible to get full apples to apples with NV vs AMD here

Equal to a 3080 is more like it

[astral haven]

The 3080 is using a physically smaller cooler with fewer fans

[dry tendon]

but still you get the idea. Both FE ajnd AMD's Ref are decent coolers. Not as good as what EVGA or Big Dicked PowerColor can do

[astral haven]

And the 3070 is even smaller

Yea

Well

[dry tendon]

that is true, but 3080 is also a bigger chip so its easier to cool

[astral haven]

Uh

Well no

[dry tendon]

The bigger the chip the more surface area

[astral haven]

Power density wise it's the same

[dry tendon]

Perhaps it isnt possible to do apples to apples since the most heated elements are placed differently on the die

[astral haven]

Well this is the original design

[dry tendon]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt/images/noise-normalized-temperature.png

[astral haven]

The coolers can be optimized for the die

[dry tendon]

This is with the BIG(G) 3090 FE

[astral haven]

Ye

Thaaat makes sense

[dry tendon]

Basically similar quality. AMD loses a bit due to using Pads instead of paste but gains some from just having a bigger overall heatsink.

[astral haven]

And yea comparing a 2 slot standard height card to a 2.5 slot over standard height card is kinda eh

[dry tendon]

Nvidia's Pass-through design is smarter though. AMD should literally copy paste Sapphire's Vega 56 coolers IMHO

[astral haven]

On the other hand the 3090 is 3 slots and even taller so it's not comparable either

Vega is different cooling wise

Hbm means alot less spacing issues

[dry tendon]

Not that much different. Vega 56 Pulse is good for this

Well, Fury Nitro then

3/4ths PCB

[astral haven]

Still has hbm mounting holes

Which can allow you alot more pressure (without worrying about it) and pressure is literally free cooling performance

[dry tendon]

Well RX 5700 XT Red Devil and Nitro + managed this so ... so can RX 6900 XT

[astral haven]

Well yes

But I'm telling you it isn't that simple

[ashen spindle]

I just hope amd wont stop with one generation of decent coolers and fuck up the rdna3 coolers since people will want that as I'll still expect supply issues when they come out

[dry tendon]

https://tpucdn.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-oc-formula/images/noise-normalized-temperature.png

THIS IS the one I do not get

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-oc-formula/2.html

This cooler ticks all boxes

its a big ass badass cooler

every trick in the book

and still is not optimal

[astral haven]

Asrock 🤷

Expect quality and you will be disappointed

[dry tendon]

Yeah I dont like thought terminating cliches like that ;d

That leads to people claiming AMD sucks or NV sucks or Intel is uselees etc.

There must be some reason

maybe mounting pressure is borked

[ashen spindle]

I mean I also dont like the mentality, but assrock has just consistent issue in all areas, motherboards, gpus etc.

on the other hand they are the only vendor to try janky shit like beta bios that allowes zen3 on x370

but more or less every product stack from them has some more or less severe issues as far as I can remember

[astral haven]

Asrock has very limited qa

And they haven't made any attempts to improvr

[dry tendon]

IDK. Their Mobos have been very solid for me

I have owned 3 of them in my defense

[ashen spindle]

yeah their method to improve bad products is to blacklist any reviewer that shows the flaws, great /s

[dry tendon]

So I am quite limited there. Their actions vs reviewers are scummy though, I agree

[astral haven]

Amd had garbage software, but the difference is that they are actively trying to improve

Every single other motherboard vendor has talked to the community to help fix the ram issues (except Biostar lmao)

[ashen spindle]

yeah they are not all bad, it's just they have ok products +some flaws in every stack and other vendors quite often have product stacks that dont have any big flaws

I'll still give new products from them a look but I just go in expecting to see some problems

I also have an asrock 6800, but its the reference cooler

[fickle ore]

MSI seems most solid atm, ASUS is alright now, they used to suck BIOS wise, but they improved... tho I don't trust them yet. Gotta keep at it for couple releases to gain trust back.

[dry tendon]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800/images/noise-normalized-temperature.png

6800 is dual slot btw

[astral haven]

Asrock am4 gets dqd because I've troubleshot 4 systems with qvl ram issues

[dry tendon]

Yes

I even owned one

https://tpucdn.com/gpu-specs/images/c/3713-top.jpg

HEre is mine

HEre it is next to my old 6800 XT

Basically, RX 6000 series coolers seem to be beefed up RTX 2000 FE coolers

Yes

But why would you have multiple of these cards IDK

Huh? I did not know that

Weird

But yeah possible

Ive added thermal pads to my 6900 XT tbh

but it didnt help much

it basically reduced the fan by 100 rpm

on auto settings

You know what is sad? Not that SLI and CFX are almost dead

but that mGPU on DX12 and Vulkan did not happen for real

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah turns out it's really tricky to implement so why even bother

[dry tendon]

Cause it allowed even for AMD + Nvidia (or Intel too?) to work together for superior results than just AMD + AMD or Nvidia + Nvidia

For example I think the Fury X was able to do the texturing and shading while the 980 Ti handled the geometry

something like that

Raja is a good engineer but he himself is a cringe man

[zenith sonnet]

What do you mean?
This is simply under a gaming workload, so about a realistic as it gets.

[astral haven]

Thats infinitely louder than my card if I let my card heat up to 100c 🤣

[zenith sonnet]

Eh, it's probably the benchmark that matters most

Default power curve, default fan settings

How loud does it get?

It does not matter at all if cooler X or cooler Y is better

What matters is the final result

That's temps, and noise, under normal usage conditions

[reef tundra]

If you are concerned about temperatures get huge passive coolers. Wont hear a thing.

[zenith sonnet]

Or go water

Virtually always silent, though not noiseless

[reef tundra]

endothermic chemical reactions if you want expensive, not always quiet and constant maintenance

Oh, you can just boil the water and let the steam vent away. With enough surface area to dissipate the heat away it wont go beyond the boiling temperature of water. Steam can be condensed to allow for circulation of the water

[zenith sonnet]

Mine is barely audible above ambient sound floor

[reef tundra]

Maybe cleaning the pumps and adding clean lubrication will help a lot there

[young pecan]

Put PC in mineral oil.

[reef tundra]

https://ctherm.com/resources/newsroom/blog/transformer-fluid/

[shadow minnow]

Even better, put big passive heatsink and mineral oil on it, maybe even add pump to move water around

[true quest]

run pc in the freezer

[reef tundra]

Optimise the code

[timid chasm]

hire my ex to blow on it. She blows on everything else in existence

Offtopic but TDC is a motherfucker for 5800x temps. like wtf

[wheat plume]

mmm, TempleOS

[timid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-side-eye-confused-gif-8776030

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/hEI3a1T9xfs

[ashen spindle]

https://www.eejournal.com/article/we-interrupt-this-program/

@fickle ore

also, apparently showing your tech works on all vendors and is not proprietary shit is now bad

[thick elk]

Fanboys being fanboys I guess.

Seeing that the quality of the upscaling was not that great attributing it to AMD wanting to look Nvidia look bad.
That's some mental gymnastics right there.

[reef tundra]

wasn't a positive light? nvidia's consent? Nvidia did something?

Bruh. this dude. 😂 This dude Bruh.

This is what no freedom does to a person 😎

Dont be like this dude, take what is valuable. Skidaddle away with the booty. And AMD fans would like Nvidia to open up RT and DLSS. They gladly take it. They are even demanding it

[crimson wigeon]

Raytracing is already open to all though

Can't wait to see how Intel's GPU offerings will fare with raytracing

[reef tundra]

Not the Nvidia specific one.

Vulkan did release an RT specification. So at least there is some chance at standardisation

[crimson wigeon]

Yes and on D3D12 it has always been DXR that anyone can implement..
Only dickish game devs decide to lock it to RTX cards

[cursive summit]

Hi all,

I just wanted to pass on the news that we are updating the list of compatible AMD graphics for FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) to include Radeon RX 470 and RX 480.

We expect the website to be updated with this information sometime soon and we wanted to make sure you were aware.

Looking forward to having you all try FSR out on the 22nd. ✌️

Cheers.

• AMD Mickey

Jesus christ hope this means that R9 300 series and hopefully 200 series cards can also use FSR

[ashen spindle]

it's more because those are basically the same silicon as the rx 500 series

not so for the previous generations

[cursive summit]

Wasn't there some kind of tomfuckery with R9 300 series being somewhat related to RX 400 series?

[ashen spindle]

the 590 is a 580 which is a 480

[cursive summit]

I get that we are going from what, Terascale arch to GCN basically

[ashen spindle]

dont remember 300 series shenanigans

[cursive summit]

Oh god I'm wrong

R9 300 is fully GCN

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1400123180082212867

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

BREAKING: Microsoft is holding a special Windows event on June 24th. It will include a look at what the company has been referring to as the next generation of Windows. Details here: https://t.co/Q3WNAOMli3

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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has also promised to unlock a better economy for developers and creators within Windows itself, so we’ll likely get a closer look at the store changes coming to Windows. Microsoft has been working on a new app store for Windows in recent months, and rumors have suggested Microsoft will open its store up to all apps and rival payment platforms.

[ashen spindle]

yeah its "win11", coming pretty much the same time as alder lake comes to desktop as some major OS changes are needed there

[old marlin]

per tradition this one has to be bad

[cursive summit]

There are problems with multicore utilization for Windows right?

[ashen spindle]

uhh not really?

[cursive summit]

Or there were a while ago

[ashen spindle]

I mean I guess it can always be better

[cursive summit]

Last I remember they had those scheduler changes to help out with massive multi core chips

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah they had to have some adjustments to NUMA handling for the 64 core epycs/threadrippers

[old marlin]

yea

[ashen spindle]

but thats not relevant here

[old marlin]

any software has

[cursive summit]

So no optimizations for FSR on GeForce cards from AMD

That's up to Nvidia to do

[ashen spindle]

well duh

insane how many people are hating on amd for stating that though

[crimson wigeon]

y tho

y would they hate for that

[ashen spindle]

[thick elk]

I don't even know how much there even is to optimise.

[reef tundra]

Good luck optimising something without the internal full documentation

[ashen spindle]

it's going to be open source

part of the GPUOpen project

[cursive summit]

Aaand we have a date for Switch Pro launch (rumoured)

[reef tundra]

Nvidia is responsible for their own driver.

[umbral knot]

year first isn't American, or at least not the midwest

mm/dd/yyyy is how it is in Midwestern US

[reef tundra]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

[ashen spindle]

site launch time != product launch time

[zenith sonnet]

Since there was motion blur enabled, and video compression on top (and Godfall does NOT play well with compression), it's literally impossible to tell what the quality will be like

[thick elk]

Sure getting an exact measurement is hard, however the 1440p video demo does show a very clear visual difference on a gtx1060, there is at least something to be said about that.

They take titles that they put effort in optimizing.
Ashes is an Excellent game to showcase effects.

Still I get your point and it's a fair one.

But it's much easier to work with smaller devs on stuff like this.

[ashen spindle]

godfall was a releast titel for amd RT implementation, ofc they'll show that of

bit different since RT is not a single vendor thing now and the game is adding both vendors tech

also hairworks is just as big of a joke as tress fx

both vendors have hits and misses with new tech

[thick elk]

There is the matter of AMD's tech being mit licenced which also means game devs can modify it and use their own branding.
So it's harder to actually know if they at least borrowed code from it.

[zenith sonnet]

It's not really AMDs fault that their tech demo has only 12h of content and poor replayability

[ashen spindle]

damn I really thought at least 5 games were using it lol

so its 3 on amd side 3 on nvidia side lol

wasnt ghost the joke game where they showed amazing facial tech and hairworks and then showed in 99% of game time you have a helmet or mask on?

[thick elk]

TressFX vs hairworks was very much focused on the respective card strengths at the time.
Nvidia had more tesselation power so hairworks used that, AMD was much stronger on GPU compute so they used compute shaders.

However as AMD cards could still run a fair bit of tesselation Nvidia just decided to go to unreasonable levels of tesselation on the witcher 3 at least.

[ashen spindle]

yup

[dry tendon]

TressFX is superior to Hairworks though.

This is IMHO a weak attack

Many of the best games ever made arent that popular

I dont know what Godfall is

[ashen spindle]

hell take a look at how much better firestrike runs get on amd if you disable tesselation (much better now) and you dont see any visual change

[dry tendon]

but its on the same tier as TOmb Raider to me personally - cannon fodder for people who know little about games

Does this matter though? Why should the popularity of the art work matter so much here

I dont get it

Never will and I hope I dont become jaded enough to start getting it

Fair enough to them, but that is ultimately pointless. 4A Games always do better than them. 😛

But even that is pointless

[ashen spindle]

4A did a better job in making it available for other devs at least

[dry tendon]

Apart from finally making Lara attractive, IDK what they do so well 😛

[ashen spindle]

I enjoyed the devcom talk they had 2 years ago about their RTX implementation

[dry tendon]

@ashen spindle Metro Exodus has Hairworks too

Which is meh since its inferior quality to TressFX

[young pecan]

@ashen spindle Technically Skyrim also uses Hairworks since it got ported originally as a sex mod for dong mechanics and then hair/cloth physics.

[ashen spindle]

[young pecan]

So the list to my knowledge is 4 games. :)

[ashen spindle]

cursed knowledge

[young pecan]

Skyrim modding is a scary place.

xD

[dry tendon]

1- Call Of Duty Ghosts
2- Far Cry 4
3- The Witcher 3
4- Monster Hunter Online
5- King of Wushu
6- Final Fantasy 15
7 - Metro Exodus

[young pecan]

8 - Skyrim

:)

[dry tendon]

I really hate NV or AMD only tech

true cancer onto our art form

Hairworks is not like that though

[young pecan]

Exclusives in general are a cancer to the art form.

[ashen spindle]

I hate it if there is no asterisk to it

aka, FSR works amazing on AMD*

• also on nvidia if they put in the work

or console exclusive game*
*for 12 months

these are fine

but RTX library when VK RT is a thing and all? zzz

[dry tendon]

Some games like Cryostasis suffered due to their reliance on non-neutral tech

PhysX is key to its presentation

but it can barely run on Windows 10 even on an Nvidia GPU

[young pecan]

@ashen spindle Yeah no, can we not do console exclusive for 12 months as valid?

[ashen spindle]

would you rather not have it come to pc at all?

[young pecan]

That kinda breaks everything that is an annual release and fucks over sales hard.

[zenith sonnet]

Well, now that FSR is coming DLSS is going to die a slow and painful death as Nvidia stops throwing money at it trying to make it stick
It's simply economics really, DLSS just is not marketable
Unlike FSR, which has several major disadvantages

[young pecan]

I’d rather it get added immediately.

[dry tendon]

I am fine with timed exclusives. I dont care much

[ashen spindle]

also 12 was just a random number to indicate its coming at some point

[young pecan]

But...

Console exclusives are awful.

[dry tendon]

True but people think they arent

[young pecan]

Timed exclusives are well and truly goddamn awful.

[dry tendon]

So give the people the rope and allow them to do as they wish with said rope

[ashen spindle]

as a pc gamer I agree, as someone who also looks at the market and sees that consoles sell a lot for reasons? I can understand it

[young pecan]

I understand it and with that understanding comes my heavy disagreement with it as a concept.

[ashen spindle]

yes ideally there would be no exclusive stuff anywhere

[dry tendon]

Yeah cause most games arent open sourced alas. If they were, then it would not be too bad I admit

[young pecan]

Exclusives do not help anyone except the rich asshats at the top.

And fuck those people.

[ashen spindle]

I just dont see that happening at all and think time exclusives at least are an ok middle ground that is realistic

[dry tendon]

Yes, but an open sourced PhysX wont help Cryostasis since it itslef isnt open sourced

[thick elk]

PC exclusives make some sense at least.
Or rather games requiring a keyboard and mouse.

[dry tendon]

if it was - some autistic wacko would fix it

[young pecan]

What I don’t get is why consoles don’t allow keyboard/mouse usage.

[dry tendon]

IMHO Kronos Group needs to stop being slow and start being proactive with tech

[young pecan]

Not like that’s a particularly challenging thing for people to buy.

[dry tendon]

and make their equivalents to DX12's tech or whatever AMD or NV come up with go into overdrive

and release ASAP

[thick elk]

Consoles cater to being plug and play, requiring people to use a mouse / keyboard would break that.

[young pecan]

Sure, that’s true, but what stops Microsoft or whoever from releasing their own mouse and keyboard?

@thick elk Yeah, that’s true.

[ashen spindle]

because controllers is one part of the equation they sell as a complete package to make up margin they lose from selling consoles below the costs, cant make overpriced mice and keyboard that easily

[young pecan]

The hardware makes shit all money anyway.

Why not work out a way to make the usage better? It’d allow more types of game on consoles anyway.

[ashen spindle]

im pretty sure they make wins on the controllers

[thick elk]

I don't doubt that they do, but I don't think it's their main motivation.

[ashen spindle]

because as qlum said doesnt make it plug and play if you need a desk suddenly for a mouse

[young pecan]

Games like ARMA and Tarkov/any flight sim have a zero chance of working on a console.

[dry tendon]

They can work theoretically

[young pecan]

Depressing, how many games are in that category.

[dry tendon]

but the people who use consoles cannot understand games like ARMA or Tarkov or a flight sim

[young pecan]

Sure, theoretically you can do combinations for every input, but it’s not doable.

[dry tendon]

give them an interactive movie with sub-Twilight level writing

and they will be happy

[young pecan]

Not for your average person, y’know? Having to bind 47 different combinations for stuff on a controller is hilariously stupid.

In theory it’s very doable, stupid but doable.

[dry tendon]

Yeah 2 people on consoles would be interested in such a game.

SO its pointless to go for it

Some genres are full of elitists so they will go where the elitists are. Which isnt consoles

Didnt even know such an animal exists.

Absolute cringe, they went for a trash platform to do their races

[young pecan]

Aight bois. I think the Sasser worm is out of my OS.

I suspect I've managed to remove all traces of it, didn't reboot many times and I've done a deep sweep of my entire file structure across all drives. Also isolated from the network the moment it struck so it's had no time to backdoor the rest of the payload in.

If it's not all gone it's defo crippled.

I thonk I'm good, no alerts at all.

sigh Nvm, Malwarebytes just picked up shitloads more.

Was forced to use Kapersky and Avast to actually wipe enough of the shit for Malwarebytes to get installed, within 4 minutes Malwarebytes picked up 141 infected pieces of bullshit, it took both Kapersky and Avast 4 hours to find 90.

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-what-gif-11015077

[young pecan]

I mean...

I force isolated the PC from the network and then force isolated all available IPs on my router side so even if the malware reenabled the wifi it’d be unable to be handed a DHCP address.

Get rekt by subnetting and VLAN network isolation, nerd virus.

And now it’s time to change every single password I have to something random and heavily 3FA everything I can before dropping all of my spare shit into LastPass.

It’s only paranoia if the viruses aren’t out to get your shit.

[reef tundra]

Psychosis or just telling a tale? 🤷‍♂️

[shadow minnow]

Logitech g hub is such a joke. Just downloaded the newest version to change DPI of my mouse, and of course second time it already is not loading and stuck on loading screen. This issue has been there for years….

[young pecan]

Mmmmmm. Malwarebytes using 80% of a 12 core CPU is tasty as fuck.

[shadow minnow]

Best part is that I haven’t saved the new DPI to mouse yet since I could not decide which one do I want

[young pecan]

GO! MALWAREBYTES!! SCAN EVERYTHING!

[reef patrol]

Who needs viruses when your antivirus becomes the virus 😄

[shadow minnow]

How many people work at Logitech that they can’t get one software working in 2 years

[young pecan]

:P

It only counts if it’s called Avast or Norton.

[crisp granite]

I just stopped using Norton when it determined my fallout new vegas install as a dangerous power virus and went haywire when I played it

windows defender and an up to date OS is enough

[young pecan]

I stopped using Norton back when it tried to become malware upon uninstalling.

Yeah no, dude.

My OS was up to date and this Sasser got straight through.

I’m gonna be using a sophisticated toolkit henceforth.

[reef tundra]

The story feels a little the fbi are watching my every move kind of thing.

[young pecan]

Malwarebytes, Spybot, rkill, hitman pro.

The malware can actually just fuck right off.

[reef tundra]

Oddly specific

[old marlin]

@young pecan meanwhile just not using any aftermarket antilmalware is probably better

[zenith sonnet]

This is most likely going to be first gen AM5, and together with DDR5 is going to be a lot more expensive

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind its likely 3d cache wont make a difference if you game above 1080p and most likely not going to be on a SKU below 5900x

[young pecan]

@old marlin Maybe if MB didn’t immediately catch the Sasser and yeet it.

But it did, so aftermarket AV good...?

[ashen spindle]

ok question, are you actually still running win xp?

or is it just a sasser type thing you got

[young pecan]

Nope. Win 10 latest.

[old marlin]

I thought sasser has been dead for a long time

[young pecan]

Idfk how the hell I found a Sasser that actually runs on this OS either.

Maybe someone is trying bullshit, but it ran EXACTLY like a Sasser of old.

What it was turned out to be a back door Trojan that installed a Sasser that only barely didn’t fuck me over.

Though Malwarebytes managed to immediately catch it after I removed the trojan’s bullshit stopping me from installing it.

I suspect it was a near miss from either identity theft or a ransomware attack.

[reef tundra]

you heard of the concept of false positives

[young pecan]

Yeah nah, this shit defo wasn’t a false positive.

I’m undergoing training for cyber security, specifically red team pen testing.

This was very real and very nearly able to cause some pretty scary damage.

Apparently you haven’t.

It’s more yeahnaah

No r.

Emphasis on the a.

Maybe, it defo changes depending on where in aussieland you are.

@reef tundra I very much doubt false positive, man.

We were looking at 300+ infected files all throughout roaming, sys32, dug into the boot sector, and spread all throughout the documents and temp/cache folders.

Looks to have been a backdoor that used an exploit of some kind to allow admin access to throw a file into boot sector and force a restart, from there it simply executed a bunch of changes before any security came online and wrote a bunch of files.

That’s pretty much exactly the traditional attack of a Sasser.

Was trying to do all sorts of BS like modify the Hosts file and change the adaptor settings, specifically the DNS settings. Presumably it was attempting to link to more external services and download malware packages, and among them I would guess spyware, ransomware, and more backdoor/Sasser combos. Not exactly what I’d call the most light of attacks.

Not so much a Sasser as those are dated, but the operation was remarkably close to one.

[cursive summit]

Yall a sassy bunch of sissies

[zenith sonnet]

This is the perfect example of why DLSS isn't marketable for a developer

It's at best a checkbox they can tick

[reef patrol]

#doubt

[zenith sonnet]

But when the creator of the new "Looter shooter amazing edition 13" try to market the game as 'able to hit 60 FPS thanks to DLSS', they will rightfully get shit for not optimising their game for all audiences

[reef patrol]

That's an assumption.

[zenith sonnet]

Meanwhile, FSR gets that benefit. Devs can just put it into their game, without requires specialised AI training through an Nvidia program
The FPS boost also is larger, making a setup possible where a (console) game is able to hit the same framesrates at 1080p all the way through 4K. And that's a marketable benefit
It's also virtually hardware agnostic, legacy hardware excluded

[reef patrol]

Brand specific optimization has been a thing for a decade and a half.

[crimson wigeon]

I thought DLSS 2.0 doesn't require that training thingamajgi

[reef patrol]

It doesn't - But it helps.

Let's see this FSR in action in games before being so dramatic.

[zenith sonnet]

Also, DLSS isn't doubling down as a reason for people to try a game.
While the cool new kid on the block, RTRT, makes people buys games to see the 'cool, new tech', DLSS does not do that. Nobody ever goes out and chooses a game to see 'the cool, new DLSS'. Nice if it there and you can use it, but people do not buy games because it's there.

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-geekbench-cuda-and-opencl-performance-leaks kinda assumed so, but this looks like a confirmation the 70 ti at least makes sense perf/$ wise if there were normal stocks available

mostly I think this could lead to amd adjusting prices a bit once stock resumes normal levels in 2045

[zenith sonnet]

I think we'll see new hardware before stock normalises

[ashen spindle]

yeah the only thing we know from the FSR reveal is that amd got REALLY good at getting any sort of leak under control if they so want

zen3 performance wasn't really known until like the same day and now gpu division gets less leaky

[zenith sonnet]

Differences in quality of the result do not matter, given all the advantages it has

[ashen spindle]

well, not fully out of nowhere, just a lot earlier than people expected since stacking was already on the roadmap

[zenith sonnet]

DLSS will only stick so long as Nvidia is throwing money at it

[ashen spindle]

but yeah, the details were new but as mentioned, on cpu side we already saw they can tighten lips now

[zenith sonnet]

I think they're using the chance to do a 'simple' implementation to iron out any bugs and not immediately apparent problems

Also, scale up mass production

It also gives them a chance to introduce the AM5 platform in time while taking as much time as they need to finish Zen 4

And iron out new platform issues

All-in-all, I think it's a very good move

[ashen spindle]

I think frank is busy enough telling his old alienware buddies to fix their shit they are running a promo with ryzen systems but the links are sold out and redirect to intel systems

[zenith sonnet]

Ouch

[ashen spindle]

was at the peak of irony when the amd account retweeted it and not a single ryzen system was on the page

but yeah, 6800m looks like a really good laptop thing so we could see some nice things

[zenith sonnet]

If there's one thing I like, it's that AMD now seems to be in a position where they don't appear pressured to a move any more
Since Zen 3 was the hit it has been, I feel like they're starting to take whatever time they need to do whatever they want to do

And I hope it leads to superior products going forward

Has there been any timeline for RX 7000 series yet?

AMD RDNA 3 [updated]
Release Date: late 2021 or 2022

Yeah

[ashen spindle]

hmm FSR info date was 22nd june right? means we dont get any news from AMD at this years E3, guess just a week after comptuex that makes sense though

so I guess until alder lake is about to release we wont get any new announcements from any of the big3

[zenith sonnet]

We might get a detailed introduction to the tech

[ashen spindle]

well unlike amd intel needs that after this computex show

[zenith sonnet]

Wait, they did one?

Oh, right

It was that thing that sounded like it was trying to convince shareholders of something

[ashen spindle]

I appreciate you removing link previews to not clutter channels but it does make it harder to judge if a link is worth clicking on it

yah I listened to it a bit but was just the same I already saw people post

but I guess nice to see more people realise this has been long planned by amd and is solid roadmap execution

now its just supply and reliable software for the big boom to stay on top

well then again..

stock market usually doesn't actually relate to how good a company is doing and I want my stock to go up, so fuck up if that makes stonks

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16702/nvme-20-specification-released so uhh, lots of changes for the spec but barely relevant for consumers yet from what I get

[dry tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqTTEkHH10A

Ahh seems to be AMD Radeon Pro with Navi 21 GLXL GPU

[reef tundra]

AMD waifu reveal?

[dry tendon]

It took me 15 years to find a fictional waifu

[ashen spindle]

or maybe CDNA?

wtf is that output

[astral haven]

Rip no infinity fabric

6x minidp best output

[ashen spindle]

? this is nothing that outperforms navi21 for gaming

[thick elk]

I would not want to be in the same room as something that outperforms navi21 on the same architecture and node, using a blower card.

[astral haven]

I've got etymotics it's fiiiine

[ashen spindle]

well guess 8th it is for either CDNA or workstation navi?

[reef tundra]

Maybe they will release the full image of yo mama. got em

[crisp granite]

question:

how did they get quin's mum in frame?

without using satellite photos?

got em

[ashen spindle]

pfft, they use chiplets, you should know they can stack single images

[reef tundra]

They somehow managed to take a picture of my mum the size of a black hole

Atleast no light leave the gravity well so they could not directly observe my mum

[proper crystal]

CDNA already launched...

It's WX6000 series.

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah, meant cdna2, dropped the 2 by accident

but yeah think cdna doesnt have video outputs if im not mistaken? so its workstation rdna2

[proper crystal]

CDNA does not have render backend.

It's a purebred number cruncher.

[crimson wigeon]

Rotational media support enables support for HDD on NVMe with updates to features, management capabilities and other enhancements required for HDD support.

[crimson wigeon]

Something big is coming? 3080 Ti competitor obviously grappa

[zenith sonnet]

So, the Navi 21 XTXH? Oh, wait...

[ashen spindle]

The email URL says “utm_campaign=2021-06-03-consumer-radeon-pro-w6800-w6600-pre-announce” ah no need for speculation

I'd say the 6900xt is equally stupid as the 3080ti

[zenith sonnet]

200€ less stupid?

[ashen spindle]

im only at 1440p ultrawide 100hz and a 6800 isnt enough

so you definitely dont need 4k for those cards to not be enough

[zenith sonnet]

Try high instead of ultra 😄

[ashen spindle]

think I will see if I can either get a XT oder a 3080 at reference price otherwise I'll just wait for end of next year for rdna3

[zenith sonnet]

RDNA3 will be sooner

AMD RDNA 3 [updated]
Release Date: late 2021 or 2022

It's going to be tough

[ashen spindle]

80 ti, 90 and 6900xt are all dumb products agree

[astral haven]

Imagine shdds with nvme speed cache

[ashen spindle]

• ways to have hdds via pcie just so we can get rid of sata, big fan of that movement personally

[wheat plume]

I'm beginning to think YouTube Music shuffle isn't totally random

There are many cases I see 2 or 3 songs from or featuring the same artist in a row in shuffle mode

I have about 600 songs in my playlist and it happen to put these together

[chrome estuary]

i've had that happen before but I don't make playlists

There will be like two songs by Caravan of Thieves then a song or two by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy... Then something by Circus Contraption.

wink wink nudge nudge cough cough go listen to them, they're great

[reef tundra]

Illusory correlation

[young pecan]

300MH/s with 5 cards with zero optimizations. Mmmmmph!

No BIOS modding done either, with some fuckery I can likely push them all up to around about 64 MH/s, possibly.

[reef tundra]

Casually leaking his IP?

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Ok sure, you can have my private IP.

[reef tundra]

Didnt know you were near me. cannot ping you though. Even all your ports are down.

[young pecan]

My public is covered.

[reef tundra]

Even my router doesnt know your device.

[young pecan]

Maybe because you're trying to ping a router outside of your network.

[reef tundra]

But.. the hacker guides told me.. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[young pecan]

See, 192.168.1.226 is the local IP.

You want the WAN IP.

But no.

[reef tundra]

now i need to uninstall kalu lonix

it broken

[young pecan]

Mate, go brute force the pentagon.

Hack the mainframe.

Use tracert.

[reef tundra]

cmatrix on one monitor

through lolcat for added effect

that one website where you can fake type

Thats some cheap ram you got there

[young pecan]

Well yeah.

[reef tundra]

13.8 gb for free

[young pecan]

The entire system is designed to be cheap except for the power supplies and GPUs. :P

And fans.

Was not gonna skimp on airflow. Had I been able to justify A12x25s I would have got them.

Went with a slightly lower quality Noctua fan set instead. Still great fans, depressingly not A12x25s...

[reef tundra]

I got a blown A4x10

It did not survive my experiment of putting 0 to 24 volts test. hehe

its only rated for 5v

it died somewhere around 12v sounding like a jet engine

Atleast I got good sleep after that

[dry tendon]

I honestly think 4K is easy on 2080 Ti and above cards. Just dont use Ultra / decadent settings

[reef tundra]

Logic is a little broken but I got the idea

[astral haven]

it really depends on the game

[reef tundra]

You can do 12k on a 950 with only the calculator

[astral haven]

^

[cursive summit]

I love this PC

I put it to sleep cause I got an exam today, and I had a shit ton of good tabs open

Wake up, turn on the PC

"PC shut down cause of an unexpected system failure"

Jeez thanks a bunch

Not even the first or second time this happens. I blame this ASUS mobo

[reef tundra]

Does it fail to refresh the memory or something

[cursive summit]

When you try to enable virtualization in the BIOS, the system COMPLETELY fails to post

And you basically have to cut the power cause none of the front panel buttons are responsive

Then just resets the settings

No hyper-v for you

Same shit with changing nearly anything else, like XMP, fan profiles

Just completely dies when trying to post

[reef tundra]

Do they hope the compiler will test their program or something?

[cursive summit]

I'm looking into X570/B550 Aorus boards

Jiggybyte never failed me before

[reef tundra]

It sound like they dont even test what they release

or dont care enough

[cursive summit]

I had some significant problems before with my card

Like graphics driver just dying

[reef tundra]

That is the kind of morale you want to run the entire system on

[cursive summit]

But a good driver update just fixed those issues

Mostly

Maybe once in a blue moon it'd still just decide to die in certain use cases

So yeah rn I'm mainly mad at the motherboard

Then again I'm not sure if it is the motherboard, what else could be causing it anyways

[reef tundra]

I got a msi currently. I bought it for cpu compatibility and the pcb is frosty white-ish, it looks nice mostly and runs what i want .

no issues so far

[cursive summit]

I mean, if a system fails to post cause you tried to enable a few fan curves, that is a red flag the mobo is failing, no?

Oh and the most ironic shit about that situation

ASUS has their own fancy proprietary BIOS

[reef tundra]

It turns out it even has a serial and parallel capability. Can even run an old printer or something if im bothered to connect a connector to the headers

[cursive summit]

And the fan curves are "Normal or ASUS optimized", normal being default

I enabled ASUS optimized and the system crashed

Fucking ironic

[reef tundra]

The one before was an asus. Remember it being a pain to get linux loaded.

[cursive summit]

Nowadays I don't really trust ASUS products that much

[reef tundra]

Whats that, some military base?

[cursive summit]

I know others put some faith into them, but personally I always deemed them budget quality

I mean their high end laptops seem rather quality

But you pay enough for those to warrant quality

[reef tundra]

Oh I remember why it was such a pain. It doesnt allow uefi or secure boot for linux even if it(the iso) had full support for them

[cursive summit]

Oh right another shitty company

Dell

The best Dell product I ever had

Was a laptop backpack

Jesus christ that backpack was really good

Got it for 30$ refurbished, it served me for years

[reef tundra]

He is gonna coom just thinking back about it. morty

[cursive summit]

Eh Alienware despite being owned by Dell actually produces quality

At least so I heard

[reef tundra]

I need to get a new backpack as quality is shit and it wont last 1 year without tearing more nvidia drivers with x11

[cursive summit]

Laptops? Just go with ASUS

Asus tanktops are actually great nowadays

[reef tundra]

I remember some sysadmin talk about how tough those ruggidised laptops are

[cursive summit]

Why are you looking for a bag, just buy a backpack

[reef tundra]

Some dumbass tried to get a new laptop so he litterly use a burner to slightly damage the bottom side. worked like no tomorrow and he didnt get a new laptop

[cursive summit]

That sounds razer

[reef tundra]

The Synapse 25 is a carefully calculated
They ran the nunbers it might be fine

but were very carefull around the calculator

But one thing..

where the RGB at

The thing sounds like a mase of pockets and stuff. Or atleast skimming over it gives that idea

[cursive summit]

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2021/0158599.html

AMDs patent on chiplet GPU implementation

[cursive summit]

For Europeans

In MindFactory

[ashen spindle]

ok thats cool

but

[young pecan]

But is it in stock?

[ashen spindle]

no but thats my order confirmation

[crimson wigeon]

pogchamp

[young pecan]

Pog as fuck.

But... FE.

[reef tundra]

No

[wheat plume]

that is a nice looking card

[crimson wigeon]

Show us your mine as well

[young pecan]

I hate that card because of how the power connectors are.

If they were on the side it's be a gorgeous card.

[ashen spindle]

well yeah I aint using it

[young pecan]

But Nvidia just decided to be a square brain.

[wheat plume]

Whats FE?

[young pecan]

Founders Edition.

[wheat plume]

oh

[reef tundra]

F Edition

[young pecan]

Fuckin' square brain edition. ._.

Why even put the power where it is?

Why? Who thought this was even remotely a good idea?

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-did-ill-do-it-again-dont-tempt-me-jon-taffer-bar-rescue-gif-10202892

[ashen spindle]

maybe from talks with OEMs?

[young pecan]

Bruh.

[ashen spindle]

and then keep it the same for retail versions idk

[young pecan]

90% of the OEM cards have the connectors in different locations.

The fuck is this?

Why?

[ashen spindle]

or maybe there will be a solid reason next gen and they wanted to somewhat get it out in the wild already

[young pecan]

Who was asking for this? Not literally everyone has Cablemod cables.

[cursive summit]

I like that

That is actually cool

[young pecan]

Sure, if you happen to have the right cables for the job.

[cursive summit]

Maybe not practical, but stylistically, that looks fine

[wheat plume]

Why are power connectors not at the front of the cards? so that the cables can be a little less visible from the side of the case

[young pecan]

That is a great question.

[crimson wigeon]

Why don't they just figure out a way of pulling more power from the slot itself pepega

[young pecan]

Fuck knows why they don't stick em in the side of the cooler so the cables can just run directly down into the cable management.

[wheat plume]

too close to mobo?

[young pecan]

NO!

It used to be done!

Zotac used to do it!!

[cursive summit]

Why don't GPUs have their own AC power cable to plug into the socket?

[young pecan]

But it required extensive modding to the PCB.

[wheat plume]

yeh but these new cards need thicc connector cables

[young pecan]

It's literally just nvidia.

They are the entire problem.

Look at this.

WHY EVEN?!

This is the intended design!?!?

WHUT?

[crimson wigeon]

Apple approved

[young pecan]

Nvidia is square brain and doesn't know how to Nvidia.

[cursive summit]

Ngl that literally looks like Apple marketing

But yeah it was rumoured way in advance that 3rd gen cards will make extensive use of that new connector

12 pin or whatever they call it

[young pecan]

retch

Just...

[cursive summit]

Just slap a 4+2 in it

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-cartoon-ewww-gif-14663818

[ashen spindle]

tbh I could see the reason being that next gen nvidia needs 1-2 12 pins and they want that over having 3-4 pins on the FE cards

[young pecan]

Sure, but why the hell is it located in quite possibly the single worst available spot?

Mounting it sticking out of the front of the card would be dumb, not practical.

Where they chose just happens to be the worst possible practical spot. Why?

[wheat plume]

That photo answers my question as to why the connectors arent on the front of the card....

[ashen spindle]

because they told the engineers to use it this gen to make people familiar with it and the design was already done so they had an awkward placement? as a random guess

[wheat plume]

not enough clearance at the front of the case

[young pecan]

Nah nah nah.

That's a really small case.

[wheat plume]

ooh

right, my case also has a crap ton of room at the front

[young pecan]

3080 isn't a particularly massive card, that's just a tiny case.

[wheat plume]

Isn't even the length of the Mobo

[young pecan]

Little mini card.

Pog.

[wheat plume]

xd

[young pecan]

The Zotac card in that is a little tiny one as well.

Y’know what? If we’re doing pics you can also have a pic of my really in progress nightmare of a mining rig.

[wheat plume]

I dont like that side panel design

scratchy scratch

[young pecan]

Look at that nightmare cable management.

I haven’t ordered in shit for the job.

It’s just janky and everywhere.

[reef patrol]

Again - The adaptor cables will continue until AIBs, AMD (and Intel) cave and adopt 12pin for all cards.

Molex to 6pin all over again

[young pecan]

Just revert back to IDE.