Hawaii was efficient. Its biggest problem was the Shit tier cooler
#🔌│tech
wintry cedar
my Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850W wasn't adequate for my RTX 3090 + 3900X PC lol
reef tundra
The power button helps a lot
dry tendon
Jester has the most PCMR PC ever lol
wintry cedar
well I wanted a 6900 XT but the GPU crisis hit
reef tundra
funny number
dry tendon
I love DOOM Eternal getting RT but its sad it only gets reflections.
crimson wigeon
Ooh that's it? Disappointing
dry tendon
Yeah. No GI.
crimson wigeon
I want the whole RTX ON suite
reef tundra
How hard of a life that must be
dry tendon
I donth think GI would help Eternal AS MUCH as it helps Exodus, since it is a linear game with fixed weather
but still it would gain some visuals for sure
and better AO de facto
id Tech 7's AO technique is top tier but Vulkan-RT can do more
crimson wigeon
I'm thinking dynamic lighting that really lights up the world during all the action
reef tundra
Metro Exodus only uses raytracing for lighting no more fake lights (enhanced editon)
crimson wigeon
Yeah, finally.. the holy grail
dry tendon
No it uses Ray Tracing for some reflections too
reef tundra
No it uses Ray Tracing for some reflections too
You mean yes and?
wintry cedar
too bad the game is nothing to write home about
crimson wigeon
And apparently it's very performant
dry tendon
Yeah it also finally has good occupancy on both RDNA 2 and Ampere
reef tundra
too bad the game is nothing to write home about
dry tendon
The Metro books :P...
So much better than the games
and I like the games more than Jester does
reef tundra
You wont talk ill about the god chosen (me) game. Its perfect and flawless. Or I will .. or i will... hardcore ranger the game again
reeeee
But it could do with more trains
chrome estuary
ugh. I can't play last light redux
every time i try, when I get to the shooting area, the game crashes.
reef tundra
Are you on linux or windex?
chrome estuary
this has happened over windows installations, game installations, everything
windorks
reef tundra
Hehehe
Im forcing the game through proton as works nicer with my windowing manager
The only thing missing is rtx
but not for long
wintry cedar
Stalker 2 will be outclassed by various mods for the first game
dry tendon
Probably be true but not certain
It is for sure not vaporware. 300 people are working on it lol
ATM it has a bigger development team than Witcher 3 lol
Fuck me if I know where it got so many peple working on it
wintry cedar
I actually hope it's vaporware because to me that's a better fate than becoming a watered down Fallout 4-esque Microsoft console game
dry tendon
Oh come on it wont be as bad as FO4
We wont have a 200-year old refrigerator kid 15 meters from its parents quest
... I hope...
ashen spindle
Fuck me if I know where it got so many peple working on it
my reaction to seeing how many people work on dead by daylight with so many problems
crimson wigeon
It uses Unreal Engine so it already won't have that fun scuffed feel of a cobbled together engine
dry tendon
It uses Unreal Engine so it already won't have that fun scuffed feel of a cobble...
But that is a good thing?
reef tundra
Stalker is shit unless you got the mods loading
astral haven
Unreal is crazy good
reef tundra
then it is the shit
astral haven
If it's ue5 it's gonna be amazing
wintry cedar
my reaction to seeing how many people work on dead by daylight with so many prob...
Agreed, there's a such thing as too many people. We've seen it a lot in gaming I think
You can have crap on an amazing engine
dry tendon
X-Ray was an engine from the Source 1 and id Tech 4 era. Against those it is superior in tech and inferior for development (scuffed editor and annoying QC and QA)
And yeah Engine =/= game quality
reef tundra
X-ray i remember being very good in telling what the fuck is going down, or was it the modded engine. Im not sure ahhh
dry tendon
Also I disagree that it needs mods to be good. Mods make it better, but stock out of the box patched STALKER > Fallout 4 and Every single Far Cry game combined
That isnt a high bar
reef tundra
If it is going to be scuffed and in need of mods atleast make it easy
wintry cedar
X-ray i remember being very good in telling what the fuck is going down, or was ...
You must be thinking of some mods. X-Ray's logging is... incomplete and unreliable
dry tendon
Fun thing - STALKER is one of very few games to get mods before it was even released LMFAO
this isnt a joke
reef tundra
it got pirated, because that is how the pirates live must go
dry tendon
it got pirated, because that is how the pirates live must go
A pre-release MP version of the game got leaked from a games show and modders worked on it before the game released
Had some SP assets and scripting ready too
reef tundra
Probably the best way it could enter the market realistically
dry tendon
Speaking of which - Valehim and how it runs = meme
dry tendon
Can you imagine some gamers are against games going to UE5 over UE4?
wintry cedar
I want to wait for the full release
And yeah the communities of various early access UE4 games largely resist a UE5 upgrade lol
wintry cedar
It's easier to run
ashen spindle
because people got no fucking clue what UE5 vs UE4 actually means 
they dont understand using 5 doesnt instantly mean you use megascans for every texture
crimson wigeon
Yeah there's a lot of Pepegas around
dry tendon
Pepega is a top tier insult
wintry cedar
That and many of them struggle to run UE4 games and think UE5 will be worse, which shouldn't be the case
ashen spindle
yeah it should be more or less the same result until you actually add nanite or lumen or so to a project
astral haven
they dont understand using 5 doesnt instantly mean you use megascans for every t...
Nanite, lumen, and metahumans are all waaaay more important than megascans lol
dry tendon
UE5 also has superior support for DX12_2 features
So under equal settings it should run faster
astral haven
Lumen is native and nanite is a checkbox
Metahumans can be just dragged and dropped into projects
ashen spindle
the renderpipline is more or less the same, the c++ backend is pretty much the same etc. so it's basically just giving more options and more future features
astral haven
The only reasons not to use ue5 are performance and bugginess
dry tendon
UE5 is like UE 4 V2.0
astral haven
Well no
ashen spindle
and nobody complains about using UE 4.20 over 4.18 bc thats almost the same but people dont understand it's mostly just an upgrade in name and for legal reasons to change the licensing
astral haven
Ue 4 2.0 if ue4 had actually included vxgao or whatever its called
crimson wigeon
Oh yeah I member
wintry cedar
UE used to do major .5 revisions
dry tendon
Honestly, we dont need it with DXR/Vulkan-RT. But it was cool tech
reef tundra
remove all saturation level?
astral haven
remove all saturation level?
That's just post-processing
reef tundra
But will it be able to render the sheer size of my ,,,
astral haven
It's actually just a checkbox
astral haven
But will it be able to render the sheer size of my ,,,
Yea with nanite details down to the smallest triangle can be rendered
reef tundra
It can even divide by zero? Wonderfull
astral haven
Nah only down to the nanoscopic scale
dry tendon
to NANO scale
reef tundra
Pico, fempto, madeup term1, madeup term2, etc
dry tendon
This is bait ^
reef tundra
Yoo thats some tasty bait, lemme bite and spoil that all terms are made up. in the end its all just noises we collectively agreed upon to mean anything
Anyway dont forget to breathe
astral haven
I mean technically all numbers are made up but shh
astral haven
1 fish 2 fish 3 fish 4 fish
Any more fish is enough-fish
reef tundra
Why bother with 0. Why calculate with nothing. dum dums . And some geniusses came with negative numbers XD. Hello good sir let me buy -2 fish from you. what are they thinking. poking fish now thats a real profession
dry tendon
Math is a weird one since its completely made up and it is also fully universal within our dimension
reef tundra
And we know that it cannot be complete
dry tendon
Yes, we do know that. At least, we know that right now.
reef tundra
Unless we can solve the turing problem somehow without just going at some point. With things are just because they are
Luckly its mostly when you go recursive or work with infinities that maths become less exact
dry tendon
This mod resolved the dumb things in Eternal
where gore disappears within 10 seconds lol
reef tundra
Might be to not cook the consoles too much, maybe. Or just oversight.
First time I hear about someone mentioning this thing though
How does one handle 300 mods in rimworld without it taking all the 16gb of memory and crashing
Maybe more mods will solve it
dry tendon
Well its likely for consoles yeah
But we PC gamers should get the option at least IMHO
these 32 GB of RAM, 16 GB of VRAM and big dicked threads deserve to be used lol
crimson wigeon
pepelaugh
shadow minnow
Not funny 
wintry cedar
the actual cost people will pay will be double or more anyway
reef tundra
ashen spindle
they realized if they put it at 999$ like the 2080ti people will make fun of it again
shadow minnow
I have chosen the best year to build a pc
reef tundra
not a hint of sarcasm detected.
shadow minnow
Also not ek releasing new fans few weeks after I ordered mine. Also other parts but the new fans look lot better, also maglew
wintry cedar
EK has new fans?
ashen spindle
getting ready early to be able to cool Malder lake 
shadow minnow
getting ready early to be able to cool Malder lake <a:pepeLaughter:6107929102833...
Welll since coolermaster 212 had no issues cooling it does not seem to be that necessary 
ashen spindle
what?
shadow minnow
But also not Xbox one x making strange beep sound that is very quiet, but still bearable being very close to console with almost no background noise 
ashen spindle
nobody has alder lake or any tdp specs, what are you on about
reef tundra
I miss that red ring of death
shadow minnow
I miss a dGPU
ashen spindle
well, yeah for numbers that are printed on the box
reef tundra
Make a baked egg with that heat to celebrate this achievement
ashen spindle
how accurate that is was shown on rocket late 
reef tundra
ffs made more sense in my head
astral haven
how accurate that is was shown on rocket late <a:LUL3D:560930599007682572>
Tdp is average, aka cooling required
shadow minnow
how accurate that is was shown on rocket late <a:LUL3D:560930599007682572>
That seemed to depend on motherboard manufacturers a lot, and their power limits. Was around accurate for me tbh
astral haven
And if you remove power limits ofc you ain't gonna get tdp power usage lmao
ashen spindle
my god yes I already know you're an intel shill, no need to constantly defend them having silly numbers when I'm not claiming they melt sockets 🙄
ashen spindle
it all being in spec and such doesn't change it's a joke how high the powerdraw can go especially if you compare it to competition
astral haven
On amd the tdp only includes core up to l2
ashen spindle
neither have a great tdp definiton for sure
astral haven
Which is why their 65w processors have a stock power limit of 88w
It's not complicated
reef tundra
Preferably you want to stay a little away from the limit in case customers cheap out and blame you
shadow minnow
my god yes I already know you're an intel shill, no need to constantly defend th...
I almost never defend intel and also often times make joke of them, also don’t really recommend intel usually. Just in cases like this where it’s actually been different in my experience I do.
Also not seeing TDP is a good or accurate metric, just that the CPUs can run well enough on it
reef tundra
Intel is missing the critical intel for this story line
astral haven
That's even worse lmao
It's not even consistent
And I don't think 5000 series has any higher thermal resistance
ashen spindle
well it seems it was supposed to get a limit at 88W but someone somewhere made an oopsie and amd claims its a board partner settings and bios people claim it's what they got as info
idk
bit confusing
astral haven
I mean ppt
astral haven
Just look up the number when ryzen master launches for the first time 🤷
reef tundra
Dont semi conductors become more conductive at higher temperatures. Atleast doped ones do
ashen spindle
it's a known "issue"
dry tendon
it's actually just 76W on the 5600x btw
Its funny cause as per AMD it should be 88W
but some mobos say it is 76W
so IDK what is happening there 😄
ashen spindle
yup
reef tundra
When in doubt assume worst case
dry tendon
I emailed AMD support - they say it should be 88W not 76W. Asrock says - its fine dont worry we will address it (they never did). Gigabyte B450 has it 76W one BIOS and 88W the next BIOS lol
lmfao
astral haven
Imo it should be 65
dry tendon
then back to 76W
IMO we should remove TDP since it is originally for coolers only and have one guide for cooling and one for power use or just have power use
ashen spindle
yeah gigabyte replied to me that it was set to 76 from amd, amd said it's 88 and if it varies that's on the board vendor so 
reef tundra
Nah, it keeps idiots from destroying it and causing a house fire
astral haven
Imo tdp shouldn't be in watts and if it is in watts it should be watts allowed
Stock overlimit should be limited to less than 900ms
Per minute
^
I spend so much time each week helping with ryzen issues
ashen spindle
idk ever since they fixed the usb issues I dont really see anyone having issues
shadow minnow
Well, my intel mobo… was also not doing very well
astral haven
they haven't fixed the usb issues
reef tundra
Yea, it aint going to survive me pushing 16 amps of 230 AC no matter how short the exposure was
dry tendon
Asking about TDP figures isnt actually troubleshooting though
The CPUs work flawlessly
ashen spindle
they fixed all the usb issues I was able to reproduce and knew about
dry tendon
Zen 2 even is completely superior engineering to 10th and 11th gen (and honestly 12th gen already looks mediocre to me)
astral haven
The CPUs work flawlessly
That's absolutely not true
Best case scenario they are as buggy as intel
reef tundra
That's absolutely not true
Slap em with a hammer and it stops working. wow nice design silicone men
dry tendon
I cannot speak here since to me CPUs work as expected - perfectly. Same for Intel CPUs mind you
Never had issues with them either
And my first ever AMD CPU in over 20 years of being a PC gamer was Ryzen. I used Intel for far longer 😛
astral haven
It's basically 10% chance of ram issues on ryzen
ashen spindle
also I have the feeling even if it's true that would change with alder lake, given its a change to both pcie 5 and ddr5 at the same time
dry tendon
which is sad cause Athlon was superior Intel's Pentium lineup. The same way Chad US engineering makes a mockery of meme tier shitty German engineering
reef tundra
Im looking at the floor
shadow minnow
Alder lake is supposed to change lot of things, also 10nm superfin. Question is if it will also effect performance by some higher amount, and if it will be the right way.
reef tundra
And whether the yields will be any good
ashen spindle
pretty sure skylake did not introduce pcie3?
dry tendon
My problem with Alder lake is that we have 8 pretty good cores with HT and also 8 lower clocked non-HT small cores
It wont win in MT vs the 5950X or the upcoming V-cache 5950X whatever it is called
It likely wont win in Esports or old games
It wont win in AAA games where there may be situations (albeit very few) where the 10900K will defeat it
shadow minnow
It should not be such an issue if you don’t need more than 8 high performance cores, but yeah, for usecases that do need MT performance 5950x will remain superior most likely
dry tendon
since there is a thing called Thread Saturation that reviewers fail to benchmark...
And it does happen in AAA games. It just requires their most demanding scenes
which are incidentally late-game and hard to benchmark so your average HU or GN wont or cant get that far
Its why the 10900K is sometimes still faster than Zen 3 even in some games. Thread saturation spikes above 8/16 or above 8 non-HT cores and latency takes a hit on Zen 3 if it has more cores
and its enough for the 10900K to win
reef tundra
But can it run dwarffortress without blowing out a core 😏 when you forget to castrate the cats
dry tendon
No, nothing can run Dwarfortress so 😛
ashen spindle
think in the end it could come down to how well they get production ramp up and how well the binning goes
rocket lake ended up being a bit better than the engineers expected it to be at first
reef tundra
If they have any spare i will be taking a few no worry
Wont pass on some free hardware
ashen spindle
well with saphire rapids delayed, they at least shouldn't have to worry about capacity 
assuming they don't suffer from the same issue and need to account for that
shadow minnow
Not my cpu being in box for over 30 days now because I am waiting for mobo replacement
ashen spindle
yeah both bios just stopped for no reason huh? 
shadow minnow
Yes
ashen spindle
seriously though why tf is it taking so long
shadow minnow
And it looks like someone else had the same issue
shadow minnow
seriously though why tf is it taking so long
No idea, still got no updates on it
reef tundra
Rule #1: have you tried to turn it off and on again
Rule #2: Did the automated system not help the problem good, it is there to maximise suffering,
Rule #3: Be cool like IkaS or Me
Rule #4: Get karen if you need things done
shadow minnow
But also it killed ssd of another person who had similar issue
shadow minnow
Literally 95% of watercooling parts, Lekker edition and monitor arrived while I am waiting. After mobo I will only be missing GPU to completele my pc
shadow minnow
is it one of those m.2 ones?
Yes
reef tundra
That makes more sense. As other ssds would be powered by the PSU and not to vurnable to poopy mobo
ashen spindle
if you aren't going to pay those prices they are available for now, you aint completing the pc this year
shadow minnow
if you aren't going to pay those prices they are available for now, you aint com...
Well then I am not
Caseking said the price for aorus 3080 waterforce wb was so high also because AiBs started raising msrp quite high
reef tundra
Just make a dam model demo to learn more about civil engineering and erosion
shadow minnow
What happens sooner, new wooting kb announced or even being shipped or me getting a GPU?
reef tundra
Use the water cooling to make a computer instead
shadow minnow
I will have a working computer…. Just with iGPU
reef tundra
informally called the irritating GPU
shadow minnow
Literally worse performance than 2017 MacBook Pro. So not even 30 FPS at 4K on low settings in some non AAA games. Oh, just now remembered that it was on metal, which is bit more efficient, so maybe like 10-15 FPS on most games
reef tundra
Dont think, you would care about a gtx 950?
shadow minnow
Not really. Not even sure what GPU to care about. Wanted to get aorus waterforce wb model of 3080 ti but the pricing makes literally 3090 make more sense, so maybe 3080, but current msrp makes even that too highly price. So I am just waiting I guess
wintry cedar
Rockstar should make new GTA V heists where the target is graphics cards
dry tendon
Lol
reef tundra
Rockstar machines goes here is content and buy our shark cards or you are banned.
dry tendon
Rockstar should make a non cancer UI for once
crisp granite
I was able to rush through the doomsday heists with a musket, so...
if that's challenging
dry tendon
I tried to play GTA V online 3 months ago
crisp granite
wtf
dry tendon
I swear to God I have never before seen such a shifty ui
dry tendon
Playing with my friends was so hard to do
crisp granite
I'm waiting to be able to transfer my character to my new platform before I dip my toes back in
which they did last time GTA V got pushed to a new generation of console
dry tendon
Rockstar should hire a UI designer that is not a moron
Something hard to find in modern AAA games
crisp granite
rockstar should modernize their AI
dry tendon
@wintry cedar can agree
crisp granite
dumb as nails
reef tundra
Rockstar should make a new entry
reef tundra
its from 2013 or something
crisp granite
its from 2013 or something
yep
what a vintage
8 fucking years old and still kicking
reef tundra
New game, new adventure. New mechanics to try out
crisp granite
still one of the most played games on the platforms it's on
to be fair, I like it, fun game
but it's old, and the community is so toxic
reef tundra
Which is a shame, tbh. What can you do when one willingly induges their greeed without looking towards the future
crisp granite
Which is a shame, tbh. What can you do when one willingly induges their greeed w...
I hope they're making a new game
just because the GTA online money has to dry up eventually
and if they don't make the next one, someone else will hop in and take their market
reef tundra
Investors also tend to begin to ask a lot of questions when the CEO seems to passive
Red dead redemption online is pretty much only for those who like to roleplay
crisp granite
example of game's toxic community: someone blew up my nightclub cargo, and messaged me, calling me a noob
I proceed to destroy all the cargo they tried to sell: nightclub, bunker, special cargo, and coke lab
reef tundra
gta online for those who want to a soldier in the trenches being shellshocked
crisp granite
they started crying on the mic
calling me evil
listen kids, one rule to follow around me:
don't grief unless you want to be griefed
reef tundra
“who wishes to fight must first count the cost”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
crisp granite
why is Sun Tzu so quotable
true quest
with enough context you can quote anyone
crisp granite
I'm definitely just gonna quote Sun Tzu whenever people say I'm ruining the game by griefing the griefers
reef tundra
I remember that it was uncertain whether there even was a sun tzu.
reef tundra
Keep in mind that it had to deal with ancient china kind of scenario so it doesn't always translate well to current day
crisp granite
but a lot of it translates pretty well
reef tundra
He would never have guessed why you should shoot crosswards with cannons in the renaissance
ashen spindle
n5/n4 ramping up faster than n7 is a good thing
curious what we will learn about n3 and below in the coming days
wheat plume
.-.
mom somehow ended up on some scammy marketing website pretending to be amazon and now she has 55 notifications from that site all showing random shit
and the website was open in a tab on her browser
do you think that is a virus and could infect my network?
it was a .marketing domain
astral haven
No, only some devices on it
Just make sure you router, computers, and phones are up to date
misty saffron
and my chair is a space ship
misty saffron
lana i usually think this type of question is some sort of a bait
literally just check notification settings on the phone
wheat plume
shes got like 50 of them from this site
is it possible that site sent a virus into the phone or network?
misty saffron
allow some shit website to send notifications and you’re in for quite a lot of dildo ads
lana let me get this straight first
astral haven
If it's an android you can run a virus scan, if it's not Android then reset settings on iPhone, shouldn't need to delete any data
misty saffron
you’re not joking are you
wheat plume
no...
misty saffron
literally just check notification settings on the phone
^
reef tundra
Virus can inject itself into the kernel if possible
wheat plume
she literally had 50 of them
I should have looked at the site name more, cause I cant spell it now it had .marketing domain though
ashen spindle
lana you're linking like a dozen virus reverse engineer videos a month and now you're asking if a website visited on another device can install malware on your pc?
misty saffron
CHECK THE NOTIFICATION SETTINGS
astral haven
I mean there have been proof of concept attacks like that lol
misty saffron
i can shout shit in your window for 100 times and more
doesn’t mean you’re hallucinating
ashen spindle
yeah not on your bog standard amazon phising site has state of the art tech lmao
wheat plume
lana you're linking like a dozen virus reverse engineer videos a month and now y...
on the phone
ashen spindle
same thing
wheat plume
can it install virus on the phone just from visiting it and allowing notifications?
wheat plume
cause she clearly allowed notifications
shadow minnow
It’s crazy how far the phones have gone. The display quality on higher end phones…
wheat plume
Not a virus
then what?
astral haven
Ads
wheat plume
but nothing dangerous?
misty saffron
yeah somebody spent a zero day on your mom
shadow minnow
But also the fact that my last years phone has transistor density over 4 times as high as this years intel flagship mainstream cpu
astral haven
Then it's not in your phone
wheat plume
they are all from chrome
astral haven
Uh what happened lol
Did it edit my last message instead of sending a new message?
Discord pls
wheat plume
seems so
astral haven
But yea
wheat plume
at least i think they are from chrome, I just looked at one and dismissed them all
astral haven
If it says it's from chrome it's not "IN" your phone
misty saffron
bruh
wheat plume
.-. she doesnt know her fucking google account password
astral haven
Fam
misty saffron
do you nuke your entire city because of a cockroach on the street
astral haven
Just go into the chrome settings and hit notification settings then disable that site
wheat plume
I dont want anything to get onto the network
wheat plume
I forgot to check where it came from
misty saffron
that here is why my grandma uses an iphone
astral haven
Poof, gone
misty saffron
no scary buttons and popups
astral haven
Well no that doesn't solve the problem
wheat plume
no scary buttons and popups
Im pretty sure that websites act the same on iPhone and android
astral haven
This exact method works on every device
misty saffron
except safari doesn’t have functionality like this
wheat plume
huh?
astral haven
It does :/
misty saffron
no
wheat plume
what funtionality?
wheat plume
Safari can send notifications though
misty saffron
i’m not seeing anything related to notifications in safari settings
shadow minnow
Never saw a phone Safari notification
astral haven
Believe it's under cookies
misty saffron
and i am glad apple never implemented notifications for websites
feature is literally only abused
astral haven
Well no
shadow minnow
Tbh there are websites where it would be useful, but yeah, it’s sadly mostly abused
Also on desktop safari notifications work
astral haven
This feature allows web apps to exist
And web apps are inherently significantly more secure, faster updating, and imo a significantly better ux vs standard apps
shadow minnow
But desktop safari… even though I use it normally, the fact that 4K videos that I can only play on full hd there usually work with 4K on firefox. Also going fullly to left opening history or bookmarks or sth like that when doing sth in sketch up and not having it saved….
misty saffron
apple has introduced hardware vp9 decoding a while ago though
astral haven
And nowadays with everyone having their downloaded apps running on html5 or Javascript anyways its kinda a waste to be packaging a Javascript or html engine with every single app lol
misty saffron
update your shit
astral haven
Just because it exists doesn't mean it works
misty saffron
big virus
misty saffron
And nowadays with everyone having their downloaded apps running on html5 or Java...
there is a solution for that
which electron team doesn’t give a fuck about for some reason
wheat plume
Great idea xd wtf is this shit
misty saffron
have they ever considered like.. only installing chromium once??
misty saffron
.net apps don’t come with the entire framework
astral haven
No pop-ups just installed and done
misty saffron
yet electron apps are 500mb for whatever reason
the electron team and people actively supporting them are morons
prove me wrong
pale sigil
@wheat plume how do you not just use brave
wheat plume
This ain't my phone
I use firefox on my phone
I installed the beta version of Snapchat to see if it had dark theme like it has on iphone
Nope .-
They haven't said anything about dark theme coming to Android though so we might not even get it
chrome estuary
What do you mean?
young pecan
Ah yes.
The Last of Us part 2.
A key title.
Hmmmmm. That alone makes me question the validity of that.
reef tundra
Its sold very good and was a financially success, though
young pecan
That's not a good metric for success.
If your company is solely based around creating a product to sell people for the sake of money then you have failed to create a good company. Do try not to use that as a valid metric by itself, no?
The game was an utter joke compared to the first one. Everyone expected it to be amazing, and it sold well as such, but holy shit.
And yeah, Steam falls under that criticism pretty hard rn.
It used to not be lumped in with the EAs and shit, but recently it has been.
I just want them to go back to making games as well.
astral haven
Companies can be abstracted as agents with money as a terminal goal
young pecan
Most of the time, yeah.
I got that piece of advice from my business teacher.
And honestly, it's something I think should be followed more often than it is. If you only exist for money you have failed hard.
astral haven
98-99% is close enough to always that I'd say always
young pecan
But it isn't that high, that's the issue.
At least not from what I see every day of my life.
astral haven
And 100% of companies have money as an instrumental goal
young pecan
Sure, have it as a goal, but don't build your company around money as a pure goal.
If you do that you have failed to make a good company.
young pecan
Little kebab place I like is run by the owner and he's the only guy that works there. He's jovial and happy all the damn time and has my order down exactly after going there twice, he makes conversation and is happy with his job. It's a hole in the wall place that doesn't gouge price even though the food is some of the best I've ever eaten.
That guy doesn't subscribe to money as the endgoal.
Still a business owner.
And fuck, his business is great.
astral haven
Any company that has shareholders has no choice in the matter and every other one is forced to to survive
crisp granite
Little kebab place I like is run by the owner and he's the only guy that works t...
similar thing with this PC shop I go to
the guy who runs it is hella nice, and always seems to get the part I ask for
charges a reasonable amount and always leaves me walking out with a part and a smile
young pecan
You can really see the passion he has every time he makes any food.
And every single piece of everything he makes is a 10/10 experience.
Always freshly cooked with good food, stays hot, brilliantly done packaging so it stays hot, he has some damn good work ethic.
Easy 10/10.
astral haven
Good people still can have the actual goal of making money even if they aren't greedy
reef tundra
No matter how much passion you have if it aint some passionfruit you just starve to death
young pecan
Yeah, and we've spoken of this. His goal is to enjoy life and bring his cultures food and a smile to faces.
crisp granite
and that dude clearly has some passion in the game
young pecan
He makes a shitload of money, but it's not his primary reason.
crisp granite
I kinda want to taste it
astral haven
Stated vs actual goals
crisp granite
be sure to hook me up with the place if I ever go to aussie land, Aeon
young pecan
shrugs You can see it in his eyes.
astral haven
I'm talking about the mathematics
young pecan
The math is well balanced. He's wealthy enough to retire and continues on anyway.
Does not need to work, he could very easily hire someone else on and not give a shit.
astral haven
So his goal is to make money
young pecan
But he does anyway, his reasoning is that he's already got money so why try and get more he doesn't want or need?
crisp granite
But he does anyway, his reasoning is that he's already got money so why try and ...
he's just doing what he enjoys
and props to him
young pecan
And no, dude. His goal isn't money it's enjoying what he has down to a craft.
crisp granite
not many get to do that nowadays
young pecan
His food is priced extremely well, man. His wealth doesn't come from him wanting money, it comes from him having constant customers all the time forever.
astral haven
Thats not how it works
You don't just get to increase prices and then money goes up
That's usually the opposite of how it works
young pecan
rolls eyes You'd be surprised.
I'd bet a kidney that if he pushed his kebabs and HSPs up to $30 each the business wouldn't shift at all.
It's still the best middle eastern food in a 400 kilometre radius.
So...
astral haven
🤷 you'd be surprised
Math predicts reality extremely accurately whether you like it or not
young pecan
It does, yeah.
But he's wealthy enough to retire already.
He doesn't actually need to work.
Does it anyway.
reef tundra
What a commie
young pecan
@prisma crag Haven't asked much of that, but from what I understand he has a kid.
No grandkids, too young for that yet.
Haven't asked, couldn't tell you.
Only been there a few times now, will keep you posted.
My roommate is.
I only moved up year a month and a bit ago.
astral haven
Show me the math and I'll concede
But fact is statistics and economics are far more accurate predictors than pretty much anything else
reef tundra
You don't just get to increase prices and then money goes up
Depends on the price elasticity of the market what you should do with the price. Between 0 and 1, you can raise it as much you want and expected profit should be increasing. If it is more than 1 the market is elastic and depending on how much it is can mean you lose too many customers and didnt fill that gap with the price increase. When it is exactly 1 its called isoelastic which is more a theoretical concept.
young pecan
Well, a single HSP (most popular item by far) is between $20 and $25 AUD, we're looking at well over 80 of them a day upwards of 200 on the busy days a couple times a week. Call it 120 average across the board. This puts yearly earnings of a hole in the wall place run by one guy at a million dollars a year without factoring in any other menu items, drinks, specials, etc.
astral haven
Revenue
young pecan
Or any sports events.
Then we have to consider how much the joint is costing to rent.
young pecan
raised eyebrow Run by a single person in a tiny hole in the wall?
Yeah no.
That's respectable.
astral haven
Revenue
young pecan
Realistically we're probably looking at high 1.8m yearly.
astral haven
Revenue
young pecan
Operational costs probably suck 60% of that at most.
astral haven
Lmao
young pecan
Which leaves an impressive amount of leftover.
young pecan
Mhmm, I'm aware of the costs.
astral haven
Food is horrific
young pecan
No shit.
reef tundra
Food regulations even worse
astral haven
There's so much that a normal business would be able to handwave as externalities
astral haven
You'd be surprised
young pecan
The most expensive part of running a business here is licence costs and rent.
I factored that in, mate.
young pecan
Yes, for a food business. A very small food business that doesn't incur a lot of the wrath that the aussieland government will throw at bigger food businesses.
Same health reg laws, but the licence fees go WAY down when you shrink a business.
reef tundra
With food you want to be the middlemen either other side sucks ass
young pecan
I wouldn't wager the rent of that shop being anything above 6 grand monthly.
It's in a pretty good area regardless.
reef tundra
Depreciation included?
young pecan
Mhmm.
Dude, business ownership in aussie isn't that bad.
Food is worse than a lot of the other kinds, sure.
But it's not unmanageable.
astral haven
You saying that means that I know for a fact you never looked at a balance sheet of a food business
It's mental
young pecan
Very wrong.
reef tundra
Doesnt 80% of food related bussinesses close down in their first year?
young pecan
Know a guy that manages a pub, reasonably good income on it, middling business. Have had a look over their earnings and payments a good few times.
It's surprisingly little.
And yeah, but that's more like 80% of damn near all business.
It's a hard thing to make work.
Little kebab joint managed to find a golden goose in HSPs and just cooks them that well that the other options just kinda suck in comparison.
reef tundra
Usually you would be personally responsable for the debt as well
young pecan
Mmm.
Depends how you setup your company.
If you're a sole business owner iirc you take responsibility unless you're liability limited.
reef tundra
Unless you have a lot of money lying around its too much effort
astral haven
Idk any food place that doesn't have a fridge I wouldn't come within 100 feet of
reef tundra
Dont need a fridge when you have salt
young pecan
That's an up front expense, dude. And the misc licencing and checks don't cost that much in Aussie.
The check is maybe getting one dude in to have a look at it, take some pics, and fill out a form.
I had to do the training for that job.
astral haven
What
young pecan
It maybe takes an hour or two, and it's not actually a difficult task keeping shit up to snuff.
reef tundra
Here they are pretty stringent with that kind of thing
astral haven
Is your electricity free or something?
young pecan
Electricity doesn't cost all that much either, man.
reef tundra
as you can set up some new company and let the old one die out with all the debt
young pecan
Idk what's wrong with your country, but the electricity cost isn't super high for businesses.
It used to be, then our government interjected because it was causing small businesses issues.
And remember, aussieland government loves small business.
astral haven
The fridge running expenses was the biggest single item on the balance sheet my econ teacher showed us from a local business
young pecan
Mhmm, and what business was that?
Kebab places maybe need a small set of fridges and freezers, you're not trying to chill an entire room.
astral haven
It was a food place in our town
young pecan
Mmm, how much was it annually?
reef tundra
The fridge running expenses was the biggest single item on the balance sheet my ...
Fridge or freezer? Or are they using a walk in fridge?
astral haven
To be fair they split up everything a ton
It was only like 40k?
But that's still a ton
young pecan
Bruh.
astral haven
And it was mostly electricity? I think I asked them
reef tundra
How large was that room?
young pecan
Cause like, aussie businesses pay around $0.2 AUD per kWh with a max of 30,000 per annum.
After that the price goes up but even in horrible places like Sydney it's not known to go beyond 40 cents for businesses, and that shit doesn't tend to last.
Legally we can push 33 cents per kWh.
It really isn't that expensive.
astral haven
I did eat at the place once but you can't see the fridge from the dining room
young pecan
But still, an average million dollars a year from just HSPs alone and you're getting confused at a tiny electricity cost to run a few cooking appliances.
Ok, let's say you're actually right and the annual power bill is 200k, that still puts the business well in the green.
So you'll forgive me if I'm confused about your point.
young pecan
Pffff.
1.8m a year with shit all operating cost, at most you might see 40% of that number vanish.
Yes, not thriving.
With one employee.
astral haven
Yea no
young pecan
Point being the owner doesn't actually care. He has his fortune to do what he wants, apparently he just likes making kebabs and whatnot.
astral haven
200k auzzie operating income excluding externalities if that 1.8m revenue is correct
young pecan
Mmmm, no.
I said just 200k on power.
Including everything else we bump to a LOT more.
Which still puts the business very much in the green.
Thriving, one might even say.
astral haven
Guy can't be paying less less 500k a year for ingredients
young pecan
You'd be surprised.
astral haven
Specially in auzzieland
reef tundra
Meat is expensive
young pecan
Slaughterhouse near where I live that does real good prices.
Everything using meat is great here.
I'd wager not more than 400k annually.
For meat, specifically.
astral haven
So 500k for ingredients is pretty low estimate
young pecan
Wouldn't say low.
astral haven
Look
young pecan
Probably around the mark.
astral haven
It's expensive
reef tundra
Meat, Fish and such are the most costly ingredient even in bulk
astral haven
And obviously he's doing good, but it's definetly not "can retire at 50"
reef tundra
Atleast here in Europe it is
young pecan
It'll be expensive but do the math. That still isn't chipping more than 70% at very worst case.
And no, heavy disagree with you.
His profits as the owner and his super would have net him millions by now.
One can retire from 40 with 3m AUD here.
Just gotta be somewhat smart about how you actually use the money.
And I know that shop has been there for at least a decade, he's likely earned at least 2 million off it in that time since he's apparently been content to just sit there and not expand to a bigger company.
reef tundra
Corperate taxes, income taxes, fire insurance, unemployment insurance, pensions are knocking
young pecan
F
astral haven
Uh
reef tundra
Recently the government abolished corporate taxes (mostly to simp for shell, unilever and the like), income tax only applies after a threshold, but insurances does have to be paid. and pensions are required unless freelancing or you own the company.
Also a large cost you have to account for is improper storage of the meat, thus having to destroy it for health concerns
young pecan
This is actually such an off topic Discord...
astral haven
Lel
true quest
it's ok only ten people talk in here
astral haven
Yep
reef tundra
Accounting is amazing tech
young pecan
I mean...
astral haven
Economics was once a new technological breakthrough
young pecan
My roommate is buying a car today?
Either a Golf R or 2016 Hilux.
So yeah.
Tech.
reef tundra
Do you have an obd-II reader?
reef tundra
I would always check the obd-II before buying an used car
It allows you to see a lot what the car has went through
young pecan
I do know a friend of my roommate has one.
shrugs I'm not a car guy.
I like reptiles and PCs more than I like cars.
All I know is it's 43 grand and it makes my eyes water.
astral haven
Nope, but I do have a crypto miner spitting a lovely 70% fail rate at me.
Make sure it's set to a nearby server
young pecan
Looks like a memory problem.
young pecan
Unless you know why Nanominer would be freaking out hard at 2 3070s?
reef tundra
What if you forced the router to refresh everything again?
young pecan
I have it running on Hive with a 1060 and 1080 on Ethlargement just fine.
But on my personal rig it's trying to panic.
reef tundra
Do you have an igpu on your cpu?
reef tundra
Does the program demand full unadultarated access to the GPUs?
astral haven
Nah
young pecan
Mmmm. Might have been the overclock.
young pecan
Defaulting overclock fixes it, but that OC is stable.
astral haven
Overclocks do tend to be unstable
young pecan
3070 -500 core, 1300 memory, 55% power.
Stable on all cards in the network running T-Rex.
astral haven
How did you test the memory
young pecan
Just not for Nanominer...
astral haven
+1300 is bonkers for g6
young pecan
Every card runs it fine.
Except the one Gigabyte Gaming OC, that doesn't do anything except 1200.
astral haven
What application did you use to stability test
reef tundra
Im suspecting the system and mining software dont realise they are sharing memory
astral haven
No I mean stability test not temperature check
young pecan
I think it might be a thing where Nanominer doesn't like EVGA XOC.
reef tundra
overwriting eachother
young pecan
Thonk I'll run the OC through the ini and we'll see what that does.
astral haven
No pincus that doesn't work that way
young pecan
And nah man, AIDA is fairly good for rough stability testing.
young pecan
Won't give me anything exact, but I don't exactly need it atm.
astral haven
Yea you need to run an actual stability test
young pecan
Still early phases.
young pecan
Was more checking to see if it doesn't outright crash the entire system.
astral haven
Aida64 is generally about average for stress but it's awful for error checking
young pecan
Haven't been doing fine tests as of yet because a heap of stuff needs to happen still.
reef tundra
Gpu's are pretty robust
young pecan
Need to work out power delivery before much else. 3080s are gonna cause me problems.
astral haven
You can run Turing and above 200 mhz out of stability
young pecan
I can almost goddamn smell it.
astral haven
And have zero issues
reef tundra
They really dont like you going out of bounds though
astral haven
Nah they let you go waaaay out of stability before even visibly glitches out
My 3090 and 2080ti can both run 1200 easy
But the 2080ti drops performance above +800
3090 drops at 1250 but when it hits 100c it takes a dump and it hits 100c easy at 1250
young pecan
How're you handling the VRAM temp on that 3090?
Also now we wait and see if the 3070s have overclock stability.
astral haven
Watch the hashrate and drop the clock 50mhz
If the hashrate stays the same leave it there
young pecan
raised eyebrow With the 3090 VRAM running above 100c?
reef tundra
Thats right memory doesnt like heat. Makes the thing every unstable
astral haven
Also now we wait and see if the 3070s have overclock stability.
That was I response to this
astral haven
The vram temp hit over 100 easy at 1250 so I dropped it to 1200
And it only barely hits 100 the warmest times of day
young pecan
Mm, my 3070 hashrates with -500 core, 1300 mem, 55% power runs at around about 63.5MH/s.
Stable.
Not many ways to push the cards much further than that.
There are a few people capable of tuning them to 65MH/s, but...
young pecan
Done. We'll see what happens.
astral haven
I wish nvidia would report vram corrected errors but they don't so we have to rely on performance testing
reef tundra
astral haven
How many times do I have to explain to people that tcase isn't tdie
young pecan
Right, 1250 drops MH/s down to 56.
Mmmm. Think I might need to do further optimisations.
astral haven
Yikes
reef tundra
If you look more carefully its DDR4 memory. Just looked up some data sheet to see what temperature they are rated to operate on, roughly. Also interresting to read is the manufacturer warns about.
There are also versions that go to maximum of 125C for military use
young pecan
Remember that time Steve from GN managed to force VRAM on a 1000 series GPU upwards of 122c before the PC decided no.
reef tundra
- If TC exceeds 85°C, the DRAM must be refreshed externally at 2X refresh, which is a 3.9µs
interval refresh rate.- The refresh rate must double when 85°C < TOPER ≤ 95°C.
Maybe useful?
young pecan
Iirc it was a 1080 or something.
reef tundra
Whatever the datasheet tell you the ranges are is just what they can garentuee it being able to handle. How much further the actual hardware will pull beyond those ranges is not their problem
astral haven
yes but also they report case temperatures
theres a gigantic difference between the temperature of the case and the temperature of the capacitors
reef tundra
Even when under long period of time?
astral haven
yes
my gpu has a case temperature of 63c and a hotspot temperature of 77c for example
the numbers you are used to from intel and gpus arent true tjunctions
micron is just correctly saying tcmax instead of tjmax
young pecan
Aight bois, I have it stable and mining Eth-Zil.
Both cards at +1300 mem, -500 core, 60% power.
Hashrate in the low 60s. Usually between 61 and 63MH/s.
reef tundra
Which they tell you in note 1
reef tundra
The casing could be the core of the sun, but if the active components are still within the temperature range they wont care. Even with the knowledge that it will be turned to plasma the next moment.
astral haven
yup
the higher the power the components the higher the difference
but also the worse thermally conducting the case is the larger the difference
vram and dram have pretty awful conduction
except hbm
reef tundra
Semiconductors are weird when it comes to electric conductivity over the temperature.
young pecan
Just submerge the PC in mineral oil, 4head. 
astral haven
mineral oil has a freezing point usually
young pecan
Undo temperature.
astral haven
and it gets very very viscous long before it freezes
young pecan
Those sound like problems a reasonable man would think about.
reef tundra
Helium doesnt (under atmospheric pressure)
young pecan
Well, not too problematic.
young pecan
Yeeeeeeeee
No rejected shares at all, both cards running 63MH/s.
No errors of any kind.
reef tundra
hard thicket
the hell
chrome estuary
Oh god is that, that awful video connector. I forget what it's used on and it's name
I vaguely remember something about one of the Sun Enterprises computers using it I think
cursive summit
We call it VGA-shit
reef tundra
D sub connector
Some of its variants are also called the serial port, the parallel port, the vga thing.
old marlin
Oh god is that, that awful video connector. I forget what it's used on and it's ...
you men 13W3?
chrome estuary
That's what I was thinking of but I see I was wrong
old marlin
that pos connector does not even have a standardised pinout
the one above seems to be a 13W3 plug and socket
they apparently have the same name
for some reason
reef tundra
The one I send is called the 7W2
old marlin
ah
is sold as a 13W3 one on a site
prob false listing then
but yea besides being actual RGB it is not a good video connector
reef tundra
7 conductors in total, 2 are able to carry lots of power
chrome estuary
What would you use it for?
reef tundra
but the 13W3 seems to be completely nonstandard.
old marlin
I would assume 7W2 can be useful in DAQ cases?
where you have a main box with your computer/PLC and an external measuring module
reef tundra
Carry power and signal together. in one cable.
They are pretty common in industrial applications. Usually as DB9
chrome estuary
So what it would be like the old apple G4 cube monitor?
reef tundra
VGA has the pins at a different distance/pitch from eachother than DB9
Officially VGA used the DE-15 connector.
or atleast thats what it became to be called that
old marlin
So what it would be like the old apple G4 cube monitor?
na 13W3 has RGB signals over the big connector
but there is no official pinout
so even though the connector was used in a lot of systems most of them are nto compatible
and can even kill hardware if you just connect them
reef tundra
Atleast industrial devices have to ruggedise their in- and outputs.
but you wont know what does what unless you got the pin out by the manufacturer or by trail and error. Could be a relais, lamp, communication port, power or not even connected to anything.
wheat plume
parallel download is neat :D
reef tundra
python
wheat plume
I need it for work :/
wheat plume
x to doubt
reef tundra
Atleast its not Java
wheat plume
Im far better in Java than Python
reef tundra
Java objectifies strings
Just because it can
I cant emotionally deal with the struggle of strings in Java
wheat plume
I cant fucking deal with Pandas framework and its stupid inconsistencies
reef tundra
When I found out there was a function to cast strings into character arrays in java.
ashen spindle
sure at first it sounds nice to have just an index to work with on strings, but personally once you need to actually do any sort of string handling beyond changing a character, I MUCH prefer the C# way over C
reef tundra
You can do quite a lot of things to form, extract and interpret strings in C. But it aint to good when you need to fuzzy find with strings.
halcyon moss
strings are a non issue really in Python3. it has good support for unicode.
reef tundra
And you need to be very carefull with string in c in general. Loads of safe variants of functions had to be added as they had no check on going out of bounds.
Not too big of an issue if you stay inside what the operating system alloted you
Where you would get the segfault core dumped message
reef patrol
Oh ffs... Chrome's hiding toggle flags now.
halcyon moss
its becoming less and less good for the user
reef patrol
Used to be able to hide their tab search button...now they've removed the toggle for it.
reef tundra
Officer dont look in the basement there is definitely no crime happening there.
reef patrol
And these fucking buttons IN THE URL field.
Can't disable most of them.
thick elk
Reminds me of firefox getting a worse ui every redesign.
reef tundra
You can change the it but you neeed to do some shenenigans to be able to have a) it read the userChrome.css file. and b) care to use the thing
thick elk
I may at some point, I got along somewhat fine with the previous ui but the changes to especially the tab bar this time around, however most of the time I do get used to it
reef tundra
It would be nice that you can choose which you would like to use
thick elk
If I change it it's going to be tabs on bottom, and removing the hamburger menu which I don't use.
At the very least firefox is still a lot more flexible than chrome on the ui department
pale sigil
Firefox quantum was good
thick elk
I feel like they were too focused on visualizing when a tab is playing media with this one and forgot to actually make it look coherent / use space efficient.
wheat plume
Speaking of Firefox, I just got the Proton redesign in stable version
thick elk
that's also why they say compact mode is unsuported
reef tundra
Also didnt google recently just told everyone to get fucked and revoked a lot of dev keys and made the google services only possible on chrome itself
pale sigil
It's what got me into Firefox finally however Firefox runs like shit now
wheat plume
Also didnt google recently just told everyone to get fucked and revoked a lot of...
Yes
pale sigil
At least with Google stuff due to Google being awful
thick elk
This is just me but Google stuff running crap on it is an extra reason for me to use it.
reef tundra
Firefox just seems to lack a clear goal to strive to. it just floats about in the sea doing whatever
thick elk
I just see it as how google stuff performs and ignore that it may run better within their own ecosystem.
pale sigil
I just use brave
reef tundra
brave is chromium based
pale sigil
Ik
reef tundra
Why the sudden did they crackdown though?
pale sigil
Wdym
reef tundra
They gave those devkeys out for years
pale sigil
Again what
wheat plume
Again what
Google are removing access to Google things from Chromium browsers
so no chromecasting or google pay support
or syncing accounts and passwords
pale sigil
Oh
halcyon moss
that all very specific google stuff
pale sigil
Brave removed all of that years ago tho
That's kinda one of the whole things about brave
wheat plume
that all very specific google stuff
its all the google stuff that chromium has access to
halcyon moss
and i want none of it! 😛
ashen spindle
TIL float.PositiveInfinity apparently equals 3.4
reef tundra
wheat plume
🤦🏼♀️
reef tundra
thick elk
Honestly firefox still works fine for me, could be better but still the best option for me for now.
Sure google services may have their hickups but they mostly work fine.
I just wish they doubled down on their openness, flexibility and extendability.
Work with the community more and listen to them.
wheat plume
its still in the repo.... so hmm
reef tundra
They even fucked over the personal side, backstabingg the guy
halcyon moss
its a good browser, it works well, it respects privacy, it has good dev tools, it is fast enough
reef tundra
its a good browser, it works well, it respects privacy, it has good dev tools, i...
Which one you are you refering to
wheat plume
Dafuq
pale sigil
Honestly firefox still works fine for me, could be better but still the best opt...
Youtube just wouldn't work for me at one point without many many issues
thick elk
Works fine for me at least
reef tundra
mpv can do the streaming
wheat plume
use MPV :D its great
pale sigil
Because I cba grabbing links and putting them into mpv
I just wanna navigate YouTube and play videos
reef tundra
I like that i can play all audiofiles/images/videos by just telling it folder/* as target
thick elk
you can do the same with vlc btw
wheat plume
What issues do you have with youtube in firefox?
pale sigil
had
Terrible page response (Laggy)
Buffering (wasn't a bandwidth issue)
Laggy player
Site freezing
I tried everything and it never worked properly
I wasn't the only one
Only in FF
halcyon moss
it is slower to load in ff, but that is because youtube uses a outdated chrome only api.
pale sigil
However I heavily used containers
cursive summit
wheat plume
Use an isolated SSB for youtube using chrome as the backend
cursive summit
Doesn't this kill the battery or something
wheat plume
thats what I do
pale sigil
@brazen vapor W10
cursive summit
Just throwing as much power at the battery as possible can't be healthy for battery longevity
wheat plume
Just throwing as much power at the battery as possible can't be healthy for batt...
not at all
reef tundra
Usually, heavy ad blocking, blocking js. You could even go so far to falify the user agent and make it thing you are running chromium on windows nt kernel
wheat plume
??
reef patrol
Man... laptops with 2060s and i7s are so affordable all of a sudden.
pale sigil
Using Google stuff on Firefox
wheat plume
webrender enabled = false now means its enabled?!
reef patrol
Sub 1K €
reef patrol
Alright... Chrome's officially out. They forced reneabled tab hover.
wheat plume
oooh
reef patrol
Who the fuck thought these were a good idea.
pale sigil
Just use brave 
old marlin
?
wheat plume
Who the fuck thought these were a good idea.
At one point they gave a thumbnail of the site
old marlin
when do they appear
wheat plume
but not anymore
old marlin
if they ONLY appear while hovering over the tab in the bar I don't see the problem tbh
pale sigil
We should all just use edge
wheat plume
ew
reef patrol
So... what browser alternative is there that also works on Android?
pale sigil
@reef patrol brave
reef tundra
suckless surf
reef patrol
Autosync has literally been THE reason for me to stick with Chrome.
pale sigil
Tbf
