🔌│tech

[reef tundra]

at all

get banned anyway

[flint kayak]

nah they aint getting another the comp scene is massive

[young pecan]

Ubisoft has a harder time manually banning players than R6 itself does.

[reef tundra]

I remember a streamer got hit in a ban wave mid stream. twice

[young pecan]

And the sad part is that R6 gets a SHITLOAD of false flags.

[flint kayak]

^^^

this why im scared

any other game idc

[young pecan]

Dude, R6s false flagging doesn't work like that.

It randomly flags and bans you for doing too well sometimes.

It's held together with spit and dreams, maybe a little glue.

Just playing R6 puts you at risk for permaban.

[reef tundra]

the anti-cheat is as effective as just randomly banning people

[young pecan]

^

[reef tundra]

Would be less controversial aswell

[flint kayak]

yh thats what i mean the keeb is too good and i become a god

wooting op

[young pecan]

Lmfao

I remember a friend of mine used to teamkill ALL the time. Every game he’d kill one or two people at some stage.

Didn’t get banned for it, no.

[reef tundra]

If they cant be bothered to balance for hardware, its their fault

[young pecan]

What got him banned was doing his placements in ranked and getting banned for having a constant 8KD.

Was just good at the game, very accurate, very fast reaction times, etc.

Was so good that the anticheat permabanned him.

[flint kayak]

tho tbf really good siege players vs silvers to the untrained eye is not much different

[reef tundra]

Worst part is support being as useful as emailing yourself

[flint kayak]

I've looked and rebinding mouse to a controller is a grey area, nice. And they used to be support for exactly what I'm doing but they did a ubi and took the easy way out and added a delay between switching between both.

imo there should be at least a really primitive rebinder in wootility to rebind mice to get around this issue tho wooting dont do mice so Ik why its a non issue oof

[true quest]

mice keyboard crossover would be nice

used it a lot with corsair

[reef tundra]

You mean in the sense that the keyboard emulates the mice?

[flint kayak]

no that the controller buttons can be binded to the mice

this for mice

in wootilty

[true quest]

mice support would need to be implemented first

[reef tundra]

Hmm, this would have to be done at the OS side.

[flint kayak]

ik why they don't but it would be a nice QOL improvement

omg#

imagine wooting mice

an anolge mouse button would be interesting

[reef tundra]

They exist, not by wooting, out there.

[flint kayak]

?!

whats the best iyo?

[reef tundra]

Main feature of having the mouse in the first place is movement. The buttons are mostly justifing losing an entire side of the keyboard in buttons

[astral haven]

oh my god steam
im pretty sure there is only like 1 real account with that many games smh

[timid chasm]

There's a couple

it's a competition for some

I'm amazed there isn't somebody who has every game on steam

[young pecan]

That would require them to own copious amounts of porn games and Train Simulator.

Train sim is costly af.

[reef tundra]

Dont try that in Germany. Meta in germany is shit

Has to do with adult games and violent ones

Isnt train sim the most expensive game, given you add all the DLCs, at one point? Could still be.

Was in the thousands range

ehh.. how even

[vapid zodiac]

because including anything in the base game is overrated

[astral haven]

pretty sure they started for legal reasons

then continued because money

[crisp granite]

:D

pr0n games, hell yes

train sim...damn bro, I've burned so many holes in my wallet already

I could use the thing as a strainer

but train sim is too far

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[crisp granite]

neè ways

[young pecan]

The only game I know of that’s more expensive is Star Citizen, and that game is hilariously overvalued.

[crisp granite]

I'm back from my nanobot injection

and I haven't died yet

[reef tundra]

Which weapon did you unlock?

[young pecan]

Mate, a friend of mine got the Rona a while ago.

[crisp granite]

:|

[young pecan]

He just bitched about it for a couple weeks.

No real issues.

[crisp granite]

yeah

lucky

some people just up and die

[young pecan]

Yee.

[crisp granite]

the strain here is so vicious, you'll feel fine one day, feel crumby that evening

and never wake up again

[young pecan]

Remember, the Rona is horrible, but it’s got some pretty damn good value to it.

It’s been handing out a lot of Darwin awards to the antivaxxers and antimaskers.

[crisp granite]

true that

but that's a single fleck of gold in a pile of horseshit

[young pecan]

It’ll sound horrible, but I’m ok with that gold.

Darwin awards are too rare with the sheer amount of idiots we have, sadly.

[reef tundra]

But someone died taken the shots, doctors concluded the cause of death being shoking on his food. But we know what the real cause is..

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Wake up, sheeple.

[crisp granite]

anyway, arm is swollen

[young pecan]

The rona kills all.

[crisp granite]

and I feel like shit

but that's to be expected

[young pecan]

Bullet holes caused by the rona.

Naturally occurring bullet holes.

[reef tundra]

The real cause was not being alive anymore

[young pecan]

@crisp granite On a scale of 1 to 10, higher being better, how shit do you feel?

[crisp granite]

better meaning worse?

or...better to watch?

[young pecan]

Better meaning better, worse meaning worse.

Low bad.

[crisp granite]

about a 1-2 then

[reef tundra]

1 meaning not at all, 9 meaning the nanomachine is defect

[young pecan]

Oof.

[crisp granite]

perfectly fine, just a bit under the weather

[young pecan]

Very pog.

Could be worse.

[reef tundra]

Means the immunesystem is working

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

You could be like my friendo that got it and felt like utter shit for 2 weeks.

The jokes made were legendary.

[crisp granite]

Biological Antivirus

preinstalled with the hardware

quite pog

[reef tundra]

they release hormones to tell the brain to calm down a little, giving depression-like symptoms

[young pecan]

Counteract with heroin.

D O P A M I N E

[crisp granite]

nah

cannibliss

safer

non-addictive

[young pecan]

Everything can be addictive?

[crisp granite]

well yes

[reef tundra]

Define addictive

[young pecan]

Especially things that make you feel good? Like almost every recreational drug does?

[crisp granite]

but the active ingredients aren't addictive on their own

[reef tundra]

physically, phycological

[young pecan]

shrugs Oh well, you just add one step.

[crisp granite]

it's more use and effects that get ya with weed

[reef tundra]

Physical means that withdrawl is going to cause physical effects or even death

[young pecan]

That’s such a shit line to draw. “WeLl iTS noT adDiCtiVE1!1!1”...

[crisp granite]

you're right

[young pecan]

Bruh, people have running addictions because the reward cycle makes them feel good.

[crisp granite]

there's someone out there who can't stop eating her damn wall

[young pecan]

Full withdrawal symptoms and everything.

[crisp granite]

so, yeah

[young pecan]

How tf does weed somehow get to escape that? It does not.

[crisp granite]

if someone can get addicted to eating their own home, then yeah

very possible to rely on weed as a crutch

and slip into dependency

[reef tundra]

Some are addicted to just the ritual of doing the drugs not the drug itself

[young pecan]

Bruh, do I need to go over how dopamine works?

[crisp granite]

it only happened to me before because I'm weak willed

fuck off

;-;

[young pecan]

Not to you, Doge.

I am aware you already know that stuff.

But man, that woman who gets happy by eating bricks.

[crisp granite]

nah mate, I relied on that Dope-amine release from leaf before

[young pecan]

Literally eating bricks.

Like, pulling bricks out of houses and just eating them.

[crisp granite]

...

yes

[young pecan]

I just...

[crisp granite]

PICA

[young pecan]

How does one start that?

‘Hmmmm, I wonder what this tastes like...’

[crisp granite]

it can also just be mental trauma

that someone escapes by eating shit that you really shouldn't eat

[reef tundra]

Dopamine regulates the expected joy/motivation in the risk-reward analysis it does and rewarding the brain for good results to learn it.

[crisp granite]

if the dopamine is fucked up beforehand

it makes sense that someone could get a dopamine dose from eating a brick

[vapid zodiac]

ooooh what did i miss?

[crisp granite]

just humans being humans

[reef tundra]

You either have get ADHD or psychosis if dopamine is wack

[young pecan]

@reef tundra Basically, yeah. It’s very easy to get a reinforcing reward cycle from doing just about any substance, drugs or no.

[vapid zodiac]

why not both?

[crisp granite]

mate

some days, I wonder if I got both

I got the first

no doubt

[young pecan]

Can confirm ADHD fucks with dopamine dosing.

Absolutely went through that.

[crisp granite]

yep

when I was 4 to about the age of 12

the only thing that made me happy was playing with legos and playing pokemon white

[young pecan]

Remember that girl that Pavlov conditioned herself so she literally had a dopamine clicker?

[reef tundra]

Too little and ADHD is there, too much and psychosis peeks its head

[vapid zodiac]

lego fun time

[crisp granite]

and I would be unable to concentrate, sit still, or really do anything otherwise

[young pecan]

Girl trainer her brain to release shitloads of dopamine on hearing a button click.

Actually self Pavlov conditioning.

[crisp granite]

I always had legos in my pocket and my DS lite in my bag

[crisp granite]

O.O

[young pecan]

What a fucking chad. She clearly had the idea of how to win life.

[reef tundra]

Technically called delirium if its substance induced right?

[crisp granite]

that ain't healthy at all

[young pecan]

Ikr.

But y’know what? She solved happiness on demand.

[crisp granite]

still

bad idea

just...no

[young pecan]

Mhmm.

Still did it.

Self Pavlov conditioning.

[crisp granite]

body chemistry is not something you fuck with

unless it's already out of whack

[vapid zodiac]

idk, having happiness at all is better than none...

[young pecan]

Iirc she did it specifically to just be able to make herself happy whenever she wants.

[crisp granite]

dude, a dildo and some suggestive pictures would do it, no?

[young pecan]

Apparently she went through basically all of school with zero issues because she was constantly being hit with shitloads of dopamine.

Just take the clicker out in class, tap it a few times, and she’s flooded with dopamine.

[reef tundra]

For depression its seratonin thats being wack

[crisp granite]

that is just...no

so dangerous

[young pecan]

Lmfao

Pavlov conditioning is so goddamn easy.

[vapid zodiac]

it can be more than just dopamine...

[crisp granite]

[vapid zodiac]

bipolar goes brrrr

[young pecan]

Lmao

[crisp granite]

then I will train myself to get a dopamine boost whenever I see titties

then whenever I feel down

tits

and everything gets better

[young pecan]

Plot twist, you already do that.

[vapid zodiac]

that... can get problematic

[young pecan]

No joke, btw.

Hardwired into our genetics.

[crisp granite]

well then

[young pecan]

It’s a whole choosing good genetics at sight thing for our primordial ancestors.

[vapid zodiac]

particularly if you train it wrong...

[crisp granite]

lets tweak the signals...a bit

[young pecan]

But stuff like big tits, curvy figure, symmetrical body shape, big muscles, wide V shaped torso, defined muscle groups, etc.

That’s stuff that you’re genetically forced into finding appealing.

Basically it’s so you can quickly find a good genetic partner to continue the species.

[crisp granite]

sounds quite pog

luckily I fucked that up too

because I struggle to speak anyway, but the moment you throw sexual attraction into the mix...

I just shut down

[young pecan]

As for why it’s attractive? Just the more healthy genetics typically show features like that, so it’s better for evolution.

Really interesting stuff.

Good facial structure especially is a biggie. Nice symmetry with no obvious flaws in the underlying structure of the skull. All of that just combines into the ‘beautiful’ package.

Study got done on it that was 20,000 strong a few years ago, clinically significant.

[crisp granite]

aight then

good to know that I'm hardwired to get a stiffie the moment I see sizable tits

[young pecan]

Doesn’t much matter anymore tho, since we’re past evolution for the most part as a species.

But yes, basically.

[crisp granite]

yep

anyway

I'm gonna consume some nut milk and get some sleep

or at least try to

and some homemade rice pudding

mmm

rice pudding

[young pecan]

I should also mention that individual preference applies. For the most part it’s the genetically good features that get the most average attention.

So have some of that info.

Bet you never look at a human the same way again.

[crisp granite]

nah mate

I was always like that

I'm just glad that I got some reassurance that I'm not a creep

and that it's genetic

[young pecan]

Mmmm, but understanding the why of it all. That doesn’t give you new perspective?

[crisp granite]

that is the cool bit

an eye opener

[young pecan]

Ah.

[reef tundra]

Looks are only relevant if you need to meet people. After that its not giving murder vibes and interresting to talk to

[crisp granite]

I'm neither

[young pecan]

...

[crisp granite]

I usually avoid eye contact and try to not speak if I can

[reef tundra]

Confidence helps a lot

[young pecan]

@reef tundra Good to know you read nothing of what I said, but ok.

[crisp granite]

got none of that

[reef tundra]

Fake it till you make it

[crisp granite]

nah

I'll just be myself

[young pecan]

Y’know what, I’ll give more info. The genetically good thing also applies to other stuff. Pheromones, the persons voice, how they talk, etc etc.

[reef tundra]

You just have to be confidently yourself

[young pecan]

The generally understood to be ‘good’ voices? Damn right it’s pleasing as fuck when Morgan Freeman talks.

[crisp granite]

true that

[young pecan]

Or any VA for Optimus Prime.

[crisp granite]

Morgan has a voice like honey on warm bread

[young pecan]

That voice comes out like fucking butter.

[crisp granite]

12/10 would fuck

[young pecan]

Mm, what’s another good example...

Master Chief.

[crisp granite]

[young pecan]

Cortana as well.

[crisp granite]

...

[young pecan]

At least H3 and H4 Cortanas.

[crisp granite]

I now realize that either my preferences changed to match my ex

or she just happened to check all the boxes beforehand

[young pecan]

Lmfao

Real eye opener, isn’t it?

[crisp granite]

thanks to you

[young pecan]

Lmaooo

[crisp granite]

I got stuff to actually think about tonight

[young pecan]

wheeeze

Never wondered why the jock stereotype is often real?

[crisp granite]

thanks mate

[young pecan]

Or why in every school ever there’s always a hot chick group?

[crisp granite]

nah

the gems are always normal

[reef tundra]

Tribalism

[young pecan]

Mhmm, but why the consistent social dynamic in every school on earth?

Tribalism, and that lovely genetic thing.

[crisp granite]

because human is similar to ape

and ape driven by pp compass

not logic

[young pecan]

Also ever notice that every public figure on the news are ALWAYS symmetrical?

Weatherman and reporter etc. Allof them will be symmetrical.

[reef tundra]

Makes decision making on whether the other person might kill us or greet us easier

[young pecan]

Drives views up of they’re pleasing to look at.

[crisp granite]

:D

[young pecan]

That too.

[crisp granite]

have you tried doing both?

say hi

then break out the stabbin' loisence and git stabbin'

[reef tundra]

Nah, need the other stabbin' loisence for that

[young pecan]

I mean shit tho.

[reef tundra]

I may only shank them first

[young pecan]

Morgan Freeman has the most buttery voice.

It’s beautiful.

[crisp granite]

ok

Aeon

[reef tundra]

Then do voice training

[crisp granite]

while you get wet listening to morgan's soothing voice

I'm gonna eat some pudding and crash

[young pecan]

Bruh, don’t say you don’t as well.

[crisp granite]

laterz

[young pecan]

Everyone does.

It’s Morgan fucking Freeman.

[reef tundra]

Imma kink shame you

reason: irrational decision

[young pecan]

Idk tho, his voice is just weirdly pleasing.

Like David Attenborough.

[reef tundra]

hmmm

Pretty gay to only like men voices.

And being gay is ok

But I dont have any favorite celebrities for their voice alone

[young pecan]

shrugs I don't really have much of a preference toward voices outside of the crazily good ones.

Off the top of my head there's a good few, 20 or so.

Pretty even 50/50 split across the board, just the really famous ones I mentioned.

Great example of that would be this woman on YT that made a cover for We All Lift Together and it’s absolutely glorious. I give that video 11/10.

[ashen spindle]

just post the article link instead of just a screenshot of the abstract 🙄

[reef tundra]

AMD submitted patent for "GAMING SUPER RESOLUTION" in November 18, 2019

[cursive summit]

Don't see the point of that

An article about a patent so why not just cut right to the chase and show the patent

[reef tundra]

You see the patent number

[ashen spindle]

because then people instantly see what it's about and know if it's relevant to their interest instead of having to read a patent abstract screenshot to even know whats going on?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-patents-gaming-super-resolution-is-fidelityfx-super-resolution-ready

much better esp with discord imbeds

[cursive summit]

Ah yes I wonder what a "gaming super resolution" by "Advanced Micro Devices" entails

[reef tundra]

Isnt that the goal of an abstract? summarise the details so you know if you should read further?

[ashen spindle]

sure but with an article link you don't need to click on the picture to be able to read what it even says

plus you're not cutting to the chase and show the patent, it's just a screenshot of the abstract so if someone wants to read more they'd still have to look for themselves instead of just clicking the provided link

[cursive summit]

Scalpers: Exist
Gamers: In the casket

AMD: Real shit. Time to add anti-scalper methods
Meanwhile AMD:

[crisp granite]

I wish NVidia and AMD would just sneak in updates to drivers that would just make mining impossible

and then prevent backtracking to earlier drivers

would allow them to sell mining cards

[ashen spindle]

ok so people just revert to an older drive

bam, mining limiter useless

[cursive summit]

People do that anyways

[ashen spindle]

you cant prevent backtracking

[cursive summit]

Apparently "increases performance" or some shit

Or was that with Windows updates?

[crisp granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive summit]

I read something about just downgrading to stock version and perf went up

[crisp granite]

NVidia and AMD have ways

both software and hardware level

[ashen spindle]

what ways do they have?

[crisp granite]

like baking hash limiters into silicon

[cursive summit]

You can't really doing shit to hardware level without touching the chip physically

[ashen spindle]

yeah, hardware limitations are the only way

anything else wouldn't do anything

[crisp granite]

but they need to be harsher

[cursive summit]

If that was a thing, Nintendo would have patched Erista YEARS ago

[crisp granite]

half rate won't be enough

it would need to be like...5% of the original rate

to make mining cards actually worth it

[ashen spindle]

not really possible without doing it in a way that can be easily circumvented or hurt actual gaming performance

[cursive summit]

if(etherium){*performance--;}

[reef tundra]

Telling that they wont release new shiny cards if they keep mining

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/66RBQXf4FI0 Ah, it has Intel

[reef tundra]

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/

[wheat plume]

idk why I thought they were holding a grenade when I first looked at it

[reef tundra]

IRA blood still kickin?

[wheat plume]

:')

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

kind of ironic for Slimbook to have a THICC logo

[crisp granite]

nah

slim where it counts

[reef tundra]

Ironic for it being so expensive

[crisp granite]

and thicc where it needs to be

[wheat plume]

We also have these cursed stickers for HDMI and GNU/Linux. But since everyone knows these things make your computer go faster, just like RGB, I will not remove them

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/morshu-zelda-you-will-buy-from-me-gif-16437133

its actually gnu - poop / windows

Why cant I find the copy pasta when need to

[fair gull]

lol catalina

old macos

cant even be used for dev anymore

at least if u wanna use xcode

[wheat plume]

o?

[reef tundra]

Or the more likely case that the manufacturer just leaks it and acts surprised

[chrome estuary]

this just makes me sad

[young pecan]

Ikr. Who tf is buying ATX PSUs with 6700XTs with what is presumably a 6 to 12 card rig...?

Just buy server PSU for cheaper and fix fan with Noctua fan. ._.

[lethal gulch]

hello, anyone here?

[reef patrol]

[zenith sonnet]

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-disappear-vanish-gif-9727828

[reef tundra]

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g
Not tech, but tech? I'm not sure, sorta related

Probably not, though?

Probably not.

It's late

[reef tundra]

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions#electricity

Ironically the industry has these number break downs:
22% chemical production
16% petroleum refining
14% metal smelting/refining

[halcyon moss]

Eating less meat is one of the easiest lifestyle changes you can make yourself. (in not gonna watch 20mins)
Also because there are other causes does not mean we can work on multiple smaller facets of the problem

[reef tundra]

Billionair goes broom in plane

[pale sigil]

I3 bleh

Ah shifting the topic so you don't have to deny it xD

[reef tundra]

[true quest]

gotta have those 1/2 pound patties every other day lol

we are all statistics

[chrome estuary]

Here's the thing. Being a mistake is all good and whatever... But I like my sausages and steaks and hamburgers and etc etc.

[reef tundra]

Is that a threat?

And was processed and red meat not linked to higher rates to cancer?

Also COVID is doing great, just a common flu champion, having >6x the lethality than the competition

And risk factors should not be used to diagnose shit

[reef tundra]

Where you get that data from?

[old marlin]

is there any point to use more than one CPU socket for a VM?

like in proxmox I can just assign whatever amount of sockets

other than windows locking down how many sockets you can have and maybe some small adjustments which would not matter since these physically run on something different than what you actually give the VM to work with

[wheat plume]

why tf are the desktop previews so fucking small?!

I found a way to make them larger, and this is SOOOOO much better to use and look at

[old marlin]

wtf even ist that

[reef tundra]

60% of the screen is unused

[old marlin]

[ashen spindle]

smh yama how can you not know

[old marlin]

just copy windows desktop manager

[ashen spindle]

this is clearly

[old marlin]

ez

[ashen spindle]

uh

something

[old marlin]

I am sure it is something

[ashen spindle]

that I wont ever use

[wheat plume]

Gnome 40

[old marlin]

so you say you gnomed your computer

[reef tundra]

Why are you running a dead meme

[wheat plume]

Cause Plasma doesnt like Nvidia drivers very well ;-;

[old marlin]

other way around

[reef tundra]

Then learn how shell works

[old marlin]

nvidia doesn't like any linux GUI

[wheat plume]

its fine with gnome tbf

[old marlin]

[wheat plume]

it works in Plasma too but some games crash after a while and dont on other desktops

[old marlin]

you know how you can probably gain a few percent of performance for free

even though it has more overhead?

[wheat plume]

I doubt Plasma has more overhead than gnome

[old marlin]

windows

well

"free"

[wheat plume]

Actually, Minecraft is a lot smoother on gnome than Plasma

[reef tundra]

Windows is running 3 operating systems in series

[old marlin]

yes

but has more optimized drivers

still shitty ones

[wheat plume]

getting AMD GPU next

[old marlin]

since nvidia could not care to redo them since hyperthreading was a thing

[wheat plume]

in a few years when I wanna upgrades

[ashen spindle]

watch in a few years nvidia is the better linux options

[wheat plume]

then I will use Nvidia :')

also I doubt it, unless they make open sourcee drivers like AMD have

[ashen spindle]

not the only way they could pull ahead

[reef tundra]

I dont know what you inject your gpu with but nvidia drivers were pretty good the last year

[wheat plume]

They are :D

[reef tundra]

Yet you are running scuffedOS

[wheat plume]

I dont want the pain of installing a new distro on my computer
Cause it means I need to also reinstall Windows :/ cause Windows likes to put its bootloader on the linux drive and idk how tf to change that

[ashen spindle]

so just go with WSL

[reef tundra]

Have more drives

[wheat plume]

I have enough drives for now :')

2 for OS, 1 for large storage

[reef tundra]

1 for OS 2 for homework

[zenith sonnet]

Clearly read only the title and didn't watch

[fickle ore]

eating less is better

Not meat specifically, but just less. 😄

[zenith sonnet]

Eating the right things matters

[fickle ore]

Ill have my meat and steak tho

[zenith sonnet]

Less processed food is better

[reef tundra]

You will life longer if you dont spike it with cyanide

[fickle ore]

obviously but waht does that have to do with the topic?

@zenith sonnet organic food too expensive 😄

well tbf some products cost same as non-organic these days O.o

[reef tundra]

Go ask your tithe from your peasants or something

[zenith sonnet]

It depends

Buy it where it makes sense

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet my motto has been: organic meat, organic milk, organic bananas and organic coffee 😄 rest is ok non-organic

[zenith sonnet]

Organic whole grain is a good one, too

For processed grain it doesn't really matter much

[reef tundra]

Just eat the raw kernels

hehe

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet grain for what? what do you make of it?

[reef tundra]

Bread to feed his massive army

[zenith sonnet]

Flour? Rice?

[reef tundra]

Rome will fall

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet ah ok yeah true

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/9BozYg5nM-8

[zenith sonnet]

Buying regional is more important than buying organic, though
i don't need subsidised milk from the alps or northern Germany, or eggs from the Netherlands, when I can spend a little more and get regional products

Or grapes from India or South Africa, when they grow here

[reef patrol]

That can still be less harmful to the planet than growing them locally.

[young pecan]

Defo worth 900 USD.

Completely custom parts that Dell filled with bloatware with incredibly stupid design.

[reef patrol]

Business as usual.

[zenith sonnet]

???

[young pecan]

For example, the CPU cooler is screwed directly into the case and is a load bearing structure for the board itself.

1000% good design choices, Dell clearly fuckin' nailed it. rolls eyes

[reef patrol]

Centralized production in a climate that is better can mean less overall emissions and harm to soil so on.

Growing stuff in Spain that other european countries could grow still is (last I checked) more efficient.

[reef patrol]

[young pecan]

Also friendly reminder that the board is non standard and will not fit in anything outside of that case which is bad for airflow.

And the PSU is also non standard.

And the cooler.

And the case. :L

And everything but the CPU and RAM.

[reef patrol]

Dell are the worst, HP second. I think ASUS and Lenovo are slowly becoming more and more "standard" compliant.

[zenith sonnet]

I doubt it's more environmentally friendly than this:
https://www.pfalz.de/de/die-schoensten-weinsichten-in-der-pfalz

[young pecan]

Even more, Dell's bloatware uses 30% GPU on a 1660.

[zenith sonnet]

Hell, I will argue that Spanish grapes are worse, even before the transport

[old marlin]

nothing new

like at all

about that whole system

that is what lenovo has been doing for ages

hardware wise

[reef patrol]

Naw. Even Lenovo try and stick with standard PSU cables 😄

[old marlin]

haven't had contact with dell and hp machines from that era

[young pecan]

Lenovo at least doesn't tend to put weird server looking PSUs in desktops.

[old marlin]

assuming they have been doing that as well

[old marlin]

what?

[young pecan]

But not quite a 2U or a 3U.

[old marlin]

no?

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[old marlin]

very much not the case

12 pin

12 volts only

[reef patrol]

And this board is from... when? In what kind of machine?

[old marlin]

a P300 mainboard

is common from them though

[young pecan]

Isn't that a standard form factor?

[reef patrol]

That board looks ancient.

[fickle ore]

harm to soil? how, why?

[young pecan]

Looks like a weird mini ATX type board.

Whichever ATX type tag would even apply to that.

Almost looks DTX.

[reef patrol]

That's mATX ish

[young pecan]

ish.

Ffs, Lenovo.

[old marlin]

the ish is the problem

problem is also cooler mounting

[young pecan]

But y'know something?

[reef patrol]

Hey hey - Back to my previous question, Yama.

[old marlin]

they like to do it like dell in that system

[young pecan]

They're beating Dell.

[reef patrol]

Where's that board from? 😛

[old marlin]

P300

[young pecan]

At least the board doesn't just have a weird bit sticking out of it for the front IO.

[old marlin]

wrote it right after you asked

[old marlin]

doesn't change anything

[reef patrol]

That's a workstation

[young pecan]

It's less cancerous. :P

[old marlin]

case and board are made for each other only

[young pecan]

One could theoretically place that board in another system.

Cannot even dream of doing that with Dell's stupidity.

[reef patrol]

Also last I checked the P300 was a flat case. Not particularly normal.

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet yeah locally produced stuff is best, especially within eu with stricter laws and concerning the poisons they use

[reef patrol]

Exactly.

[old marlin]

are you sure lenovo is better

that is the current thinkcentre

[young pecan]

For a clearly custom solution? Yeh.

Dell's making a desktop here, not a custom workstation.

A gaming desktop.

For gamers.

[reef patrol]

It doesn't have M.2. I doubt your sincerity 😛

[young pecan]

For the express purpose of gaming.

[reef patrol]

And yes - We were discussing GAMING PCs here.

Not random workstations.

[young pecan]

Somehow I don't treat those as the same thing.

Workstation =/= gaming

[reef patrol]

I genuinely don't remember the last time I saw a custom PSU cable solution from a gaming PC from any prebuilt OEM except Dell.

[young pecan]

If Dell wanted a custom workstation? Fair enough.

But a gaming PC?

[reef patrol]

Not to say they haven't skimped on cables.

[young pecan]

The fuck?

[old marlin]

it's an m90t

[reef patrol]

The HP I bought with a 3080 only had exactly the cables it needed. No room for expansion.

[old marlin]

how many gaming systems does lenovo even sell

like they have them

[reef patrol]

Plenty?

[old marlin]

but I have only once seen one irl

[young pecan]

Well yeah, no shit.

[reef patrol]

Their Legion series is super common here 😛

[zenith sonnet]

It's also better for your local economy

[old marlin]

they only have one model by now

[young pecan]

Nobody is buying gaming systems from Lenovo aside from the Legion line.

[old marlin]

there is only one legion desktop

on their website

atm at least

[young pecan]

Desktop? The fuck?

They make that?

[old marlin]

I know they had other ones before

[young pecan]

I thought they only had Legion laptops...

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet For sure and in case of natural disasters nobody should rely on other countries, like we see to a point with corona

[old marlin]

there is no other one

literally one model

they had other ones before

[reef patrol]

I have over 15 models here 😛

[old marlin]

they still have images in their marketing

[zenith sonnet]

What do you mean?

[fickle ore]

tf why is nvidia gpus cheaper than amd

[young pecan]

Legion Tower 7i, uses i9 CPU.

Lenovo, why?

[fickle ore]

cmon noobs buy nvidia let me have amd

[old marlin]

same product btw

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet a lot of vegetables/fruits were missing this winter in my country

[young pecan]

Different GPU and cooler.

[old marlin]

comes with neither of those gpus

is a 3070

[zenith sonnet]

Oh... I did not notice

[young pecan]

...

Lenovo, why?

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet yeah finland is cold so we can't farm much

[reef patrol]

Because marketing material can't keep up with configs 😄

[old marlin]

they have different front panels

at least keep those the same

if you wanna reuse images

[reef patrol]

Naw.

[young pecan]

Taking a pic like that isn't really expensive. :L

They'll have a full thing for it anyway, so why not?

[reef patrol]

It takes setup and time.

[young pecan]

Maybe a few hours to setup, a few more for pictures.

[old marlin]

like not trying to defend dell even

[young pecan]

Few days for editing and such, a few more for approval.

[old marlin]

but people only focus on them

[reef patrol]

1. Find the right SKU.
2. Grab a photographer and set up the studio.
3. Take pics, take them again.
4. Post processing and cleanup.

For what - An accurate picture for 21 different SKUs? 😛

[old marlin]

and ignor that hp and lenovo pull the same shit

I am not asking for one picture per configuration

but at least one per case sku

ig hp is the best of the bunch

with the omen lineup at least

[young pecan]

HP has by far the best product utility.

HPBB is fucking incredible.

[old marlin]

don't look at the pavillion ones too much though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qfzSRvnvI

same non-standard psu

[reef patrol]

Can we honestly call a low profile machine a GAMING PC? In this context 😄

[old marlin]

cpu cooler is screwed in the same way

[old marlin]

is that low profile

[reef patrol]

...yes 😛

[old marlin]

it is the same as the dell

like

???

[young pecan]

No.

The dell machine is a FULL DESKTOP PC.

[young pecan]

Not a custom workstation.

[old marlin]

and this is not?

wtf

this is a gaming system

says so right in the name

[young pecan]

With a mostly standard set of parts or easily moddable.

The Dell one isn't even that.

[old marlin]

what

[young pecan]

It's a nightmare mess of horrible shit.

[old marlin]

this has the same problems

???

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Yes, but it's vaguely fixable if you wanted to use it for more shit.

[old marlin]

like literally 1:1

with the dell

[young pecan]

The DELL system does not have any of that possibility.

[old marlin]

what does this have over the dell

like what single thing

hardware wise

[young pecan]

Yam, listen to me.

The Dell is e-waste.

[old marlin]

name me one thing

[young pecan]

The Lenovo might be able to become a budget system.

If only because it's remotely friendly to mods.

[old marlin]

name me the thing the hp has over the dell

[young pecan]

IT IS MORE FRIENDLY TO REUSE.

That is the difference.

[old marlin]

how is it more friendly to reuse

it has the same problems

[young pecan]

The case isn't 80% fucked to any changes at all?

Still fucked.

[old marlin]

it is

[young pecan]

But not as fucked.

[old marlin]

literally the same problems

fixed io

[young pecan]

That's not the issue.

Go look at the Dell G5 5000.

[old marlin]

same thing with the front io as the dell

[young pecan]

Grab pics, it's proper fucked.

[old marlin]

fixed to the mobo

psu is not atx

[young pecan]

sigh Just go look.

Specs is not structure.

[old marlin]

like name me one thing

[young pecan]

Very different things.

[old marlin]

which specs

[young pecan]

Bruh, Yam.

Listen carefully.

[old marlin]

NAME ME ONE CONCRETE THING

[young pecan]

Specs are not the same thing as structure.

[old marlin]

YOU DID NOT MANAGE TO DO THAT

[young pecan]

The cases are built differently.

[old marlin]

???

[young pecan]

That's the difference.

[old marlin]

HOW

different is not concrete

[young pecan]

Mental pain.

@reef patrol Help.

[old marlin]

what do you even mean

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-watching-eating-popcorn-oh-yeah-watchin-gif-8938478

[old marlin]

this airflow king here?

[young pecan]

BRUH.

THAT ISN'T EVEN THE SYSTEM.

[old marlin]

with fixed front and rear io

[young pecan]

OMG.

[old marlin]

that is the system I meant

does 1:1 the same mistakes

[young pecan]

throws hands up Fucking hell.

@reef patrol You take over.

I'm going to suffer in Destiny.

[old marlin]

so hp sells ewaste as well

lenovo does not have the chance

cause they sell a single system for me

but never forget

dell bad

don't look at the other ones

dell bad

reminds me of dieselgate

where everyone JUST looked at VW

even though everyone was pulling the same shit

[pale sigil]

@young pecanim disappointed in your lack of raids

https://youtu.be/ZY6h3pKqYI0

Kinda tech related

[young pecan]

@pale sigil Lack of raids?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[young pecan]

Explain. I think I caught the smooth brain virus.

[reef patrol]

This hurts.

[pale sigil]

Destiny

[young pecan]

Ah yeah, that pain.

Nah, I did my raiding earlier. Now I’m trying to force lost sectors to be a thing.

Plot twist, that shit isn’t gonna fly, apparently.

[pale sigil]

What's wrong with legend/master lostt sector's

They are easy

[young pecan]

I’m a squishy hunter 15LL below. :P

Didn’t do last season so I’m lacking on weps.

[pale sigil]

Ah

Didn't miss much

[young pecan]

Apparently I did with Lasting Inpression RPGs.

[pale sigil]

Well no

Cos you can still get em

[young pecan]

I mean on the time.

Could have been farming them for so long, prep for VOG.

Didn’t tho. :/

[pale sigil]

@young pecan I don't even have lasting impression

They won't be meta for VoG

[young pecan]

Nah, not for the bosses.

I’m doing Day1 and challenge.

Thinking they’ll be good for the inevitable champion hobbs in Oracles.

[pale sigil]

Ye I am too

[young pecan]

That’s the thinking, at least. Not certain on anything but my day 1 team is pretty stoked.

[pale sigil]

Same

[hearty lake]

Do we have some PC experts here? I have a weird problem with my PSU & GPU... below u see configurations that can boot () and some which dont ().

corsair AX850 + rx 6700 xt + mainboard ->
corsair AX850 + mainboard ->
corsair AX1000 + rx 6700 xt + mainboard ->
corsair AX1000 + mainboard ->
--> GPU connected with two Type-4 PCIe 8pin to 2x 6+2pin cables or with two 8pin to 1x 6+2pin. Both methods result in the same results above.

other be quiet psu + rx 6700 xt + mainboard ->
other be quiet psu + mainboard ->
--> GPU connected with 12pin to 2x 6+2pin

I just cant figure out what am i doing wrong... i can clearly say its not the pci slot for the gpu, neither the gup it self. It has to be somethign with the GPU in combination with the PSU. Just cant find out what it is. Does anyone have an idea? it has to be something pretty dumb :/

[cursive summit]

Did you forget to turn the power on?

[hearty lake]

thats prob the one thing i know for sure and double checked several times xD

[cursive summit]

Wait did you just take a single 8pin and split it into two 8 pins?

[hearty lake]

nah, two separat 8pin to 2x6+2 but only one connected per cable

[cursive summit]

Ah no

[hearty lake]

im just clueless what it could be since i tried over 3 hours several combinations and nothing worked with the corsair PSU's... im just confused now xD

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean with boot, how do you see the system boots without gpu?

[hearty lake]

i see it like it boots up as usual like booting into the OS^^

[ashen spindle]

so you use the iGPU on your cpu?

[hearty lake]

jep

[ashen spindle]

and you are connecting the cable to the gpu when you add the gpu or still on the iGPU video output?

[hearty lake]

still to the MB eg. the iGPU

[ashen spindle]

...

you have to connect it to the gpu of course

[hearty lake]

i know but thats not the problem

its not that the gpu doesent work, its like its not booting at all

its on purpose since its a (or it should be) a mining rig

just wonna swap the PSU, but there the trouble begins

If i use my old PSU everything works correct. Its just if i use the corsair ones, it makes a "click" noise and the PSU is not staring

[hearty lake]

btw. in the bios i've set manually the CPU as my GPU so actually i dont need to connect the display to my GPU even if i were able to boot up with the corsair PSU configuration

[ashen spindle]

no clue then, maybe broken psu on the 12V rails

[hearty lake]

if this would be the case then 3 PSU are broken on all 12V rails. Can't believe that actually 🤔

it has to be something else (at least i hope so xD)

[latent mural]

Any idea if a Wooting 2 HE TKL will be coming out in the near future?

[umbral knot]

it probably won't be coming out at all

[crisp granite]

crosspost ist a no no

[latent mural]

Oh no, what will i do now? OMG

[crisp granite]

just don't do it

[reef patrol]

You will listen and behave.

[manic epoch]

when i try to download wooting it just goes to this?

[ashen spindle]

#archived_fortnite_double_movement

[crimson wigeon]

https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/
We have gone full circle

[ashen spindle]

[pale sigil]

Whats wrong with using vscode

[ashen spindle]

you are missing the quite obvious joke xD

[chrome estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR-DXc1voovS8nhAvccRZhg

this guy is gonna be doing a full review on starlink in the near future

so if you're interested in it like I am, this wouldn't be bad to look at.

[timid chasm]

Hoping we'll get service to our address before we move next year 🤞 Already put in the pre-order and down payment

[zenith sonnet]

Hawaii isn't rural

Hawaii is off-shore

[pale sigil]

Bleh

Guess I didn't wipe this phone

My sister did all of that wonderful damage

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/aKDJANFZ_Qg

[fair gull]

so i can now run nodejs in my electron app which can run an electron app in the nodejs container and preferably this electron app i run in my nodejs container inside my electron app could be my electron app running a nodejs container which runs an electron app

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/circle-marriage-love-like-a-circle-never-ends-gif-12894046

All based on the most secure scripting language JS

[thick elk]

Making a 2 hour rant is relatively easy. Condensing the same information to 30m is a lot harder.

[pale sigil]

I find it scary how electric cars make basically no noise

[ashen spindle]

thats why we have a law that mandates the make sounds

[reef tundra]

Turn up the speakers, let the surrounding enjoy the music

[wheat plume]

Xd

That's what I do anyway with my petrol car

[reef tundra]

Thats why im strapping a turbojet on the top of the car

[wheat plume]

:')

[halcyon moss]

That manadated sound is louder than most petrol cars

[ashen spindle]

think that depends because iirc it's up to EU states how to individually have those regulation

but I guess they might just make one option thats allows good enough

[reef tundra]

Engineer the ultimate sound that destroys the hearing of people around them without using too much dB

[wheat plume]

Make it sound like a sports car

[reef tundra]

Make it sound like tinnitus

[zenith sonnet]

You wot now?

If I get an electric car that makes unnecessary noise I will rip out the speakers first thing

And then they reduce the city roads to 30 km/h because of noise reduction...

Are they stupid?

[umbral knot]

has anybody else seen the tesla swap 350z

[zenith sonnet]

Seriously, how ass backwards is this garbage?
They complain that traffic is too loud, subsidise noise insulating windows and reduce main streets to 30 km/h
And then they mandate cars that could reduce noise be loud anyway?

[reef patrol]

That's not how noise works though.

And they're not mandated to be loud, just possible to hear while in traffic.

As opposed to deadly silent.

[zenith sonnet]

So, tires make noise
About 70-75 dB. That's plenty loud

It's also what you usually hear when a car rolls through a city street. Not the engine

[reef patrol]

I uhh... No.

A quiet EV makes nowhere near as much noise as a run of the mill modern petrol car when going down a street.

[zenith sonnet]

The loudest thing at those speeds are the tires

[reef patrol]

If that was the case both car types would have the same noise level.

That is not the case here. You can barely hear tires anyway.

[zenith sonnet]

Whatever it is, it adds to noise pollution

We get new emission standards every other year

When are they going to reduce noise emissions?

[reef tundra]

EV sound review

[neat oriole]

Tires hardly make any noise until you’re going like 50-60kmh

That’s why EVs need to make a sound at lower speeds so you can hear them when they’re mowing you down

[astral haven]

Yea, tesla and priuses are extremely sneaky, you can't hear them over 100 feet away even with the added sound

[reef tundra]

waiting queue for overcompensation anonymous (20xx)

[zenith sonnet]

Maybe I just don't have fucked up hearing from blasting them with IEMs in my youth?

Even bicycles make enough tire sound that you can hear them coming plenty distance away

[reef tundra]

You can still see them and drivers are supposed to yield to people wanting to cross the road, especially when they have dog/stick.

[zenith sonnet]

Oh

Since when is Civ:CTP on GOG?

Nvm

It's CTP 2

Lol

[ashen spindle]

oh great.. so far the smallest ddr5 sticks on market seem to be 16gb for now (spec is 8-64)

so we're gonna see a whole lot of single channel prebuilt pcs again...

[zenith sonnet]

You mean less car like, and more movie-car like?

The first thing I wanna do with a car like that is take it to a garage and have them pull the breakers on those speakers

[wheat plume]

That's the most clickbait thumbnail I've ever seen

[chrome estuary]

i dont understand the whole, "I want my electric or low power car to sound loud!"

like i watched someone install basically subwoofers with a fucking pipe on their car to look like exhaust and sound like a massive engine

like fuck that

i want a quiet car if i'm buying an electric vehicle

if i want a loud powerful car, i'm going to buy a loud powerful car.

[neat oriole]

You won’t be able to hear the sound on the inside, unless you turn it on.

Porsche plays fake spaceship-y-whooshes in their taycan when you accelerate

[chrome estuary]

I'm talking about an active sound exhaust

which is external

not internal

i don't want sound in my car other than from the stereo

[neat oriole]

I mean it’s just for pedestrian safety at low speeds

[chrome estuary]

look both ways before crossing the road!

that's something literally taught in schools!

[neat oriole]

It’s about situational awareness

So you can hear if a car is approaching from behind

[chrome estuary]

the driver needs to pay attention too! Plus you're supposed to walk towards oncoming traffic so people behind you have plenty of room to get around you from behind. Also so you can see the car coming towards you so you can get the fuck out of the way if you're some dick cheese walking in the road

[neat oriole]

At least in residential areas where often there aren’t any actual sidewalks it helps knowing if a car is coming from behind

Yeah

Because pedestrian crash safety

Alternatively we have CCTV everywhere 24/7 linked to the driving overlord AI’s neural network so they know exactly where every pedestrian is at all times so they can avoid running into one

[chrome estuary]

I'd be fine with a car driving me places

[neat oriole]

Or just have the cars make a sound so it’s easier to be aware of them

[chrome estuary]

or just...

pay attention while walking?

occasionally look over your shoulder.

also pay attention while driving

[crisp granite]

nah

face in phone ftw

ngl tho, I've seen someone get killed because they waltzed right into traffic while reading the news on their phone

[chrome estuary]

cause if you're listening to music, unless the car is real fuckin loud or close. most people won't notice.

fucking college students are the worst. They'll just walk out in front of your car without paying any attention or giving a damn.

cause they know, if they get hit. It's not their fault.

regardless of it ACTUALLY being their fault

Bloomington, IN has Indiana University. I can't tell you how many times i've been driving down there and damn near hit a student that just waltzed out in front of my car on their phone not paying any attention. Then got pissed off when I had to slam on the brakes and subsequently the horn

i actually backhanded the shit out of a buddy of mine that did that one day when we were down there in an attempt to slap the stupid out of him

[true quest]

gotta keep america car dependent

[halcyon moss]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM

[fickle ore]

Something like this pisses me off more than it should. Earlier half of the games are clearly gpu bottlenecked and then ppl come to conclusion that Intel is even beating it sometimes with 1% or only single digit faster %!!! pff. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/nih7kl/ryzen_7_5800x_vs_core_i710700k_11700k_32_game/

[ashen spindle]

I mean, imo it's clear these are scenarios for people to look at and see if their use case is in it, not to take that over a regular review that gets you the benchmark baseline

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle the benchmarks and methods are just inadequate. It should show the real difference % even at gpu bound 60 fps cap. Like "AMD 5800x is 20-25% faster at 60 fps even if the fps is same"

Otherwise when new more demanding games pop up, then ppl cry when ryzen is suddenly 20% faster

IT SAID INTEL IS AS FAST WHY ITS NOT ANYMORE

[ashen spindle]

I think you are expecting something for a different target audience than what this video is for

[fickle ore]

I just want the general populace to make informed decision when buying hardware

[young pecan]

Kinda inaccurate info, tbh.

Not really indicative of what the performance is.

[ashen spindle]

sure but it's what their audience is asking them to do so they deliver

[fickle ore]

everyone keeps buying intel nothing changes, AMD 20% faster but bcuz 60 fps is enough with 4k, we all should buy intel obviously

keke

[reef tundra]

Keep in mind that Ryzen has 105watts and intel 125 watts of TDP. The results are considerable to be within margin of error, still its not enough to justify the increased power draw (thus costs)

[young pecan]

I mean...

It's a dumb example.

Doesn't actually tell you any useful info.

Just that shit is bottlenecked hard, therefore the game can't use Ryzen to it's full potential...?

Pog?

[fickle ore]

I mean nobody even says that much

its just intel and amd are tied fps wise at 60 fps. intel even beating by 1%!!!!!!!! therefore intel is faster hurrdurr

[ashen spindle]

people want to see their exact scenario to make sure they know what to get instead of extrapolating info from a better dataset to their usecase

[young pecan]

Bruh.

[ashen spindle]

I think most of the audience of HUB are on a level of "I want ltt videos about this but they atm are making a fun projekt"

[fickle ore]

Why do you havta make me cry 😦

[ashen spindle]

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-the-emperor-does-not-share-your-optimistic-appraisal-of-the-situation-talking-gif-17392059

[ashen spindle]

less adoption = less optimization/less revenue for ne things etc.

not like you can get gains by getting more than one cpu really

[timid chasm]

How many people are actually playing 4k on PC though to only care about the 4k/60? I feel like way more are playing esports titles

[zenith sonnet]

Furtunately, Ryzen heavily outsells intel, at least in the DIY segment

And eventually, that bias bleeds over into the OEM market

When people hear good things, and subsequently ask for them from retailers

[reef patrol]

What DOES it do?

[ashen spindle]

what does it do?

[crimson wigeon]

What does it do?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-close-up-gif-12180194

Just like CSGO?

[zenith sonnet]

And LoL?

[wheat plume]

Why are all the Ryzen;s the X models?!

[zenith sonnet]

They are not?

[ashen spindle]

do you want a 50 table long chart?

[zenith sonnet]

non-X are mostly OEM and low end

[reef patrol]

Why are all the Intels the K model?

[wheat plume]

oh

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

your expectations of what people think they want is too high vs what they do consume

[crimson wigeon]

Well yeah that's what everyone understands.. what's a frametime?

The drooling masses only need the one number which is FPS

[cursive summit]

TAP???

[wheat plume]

Valve?

[timid chasm]

Are there not other content providers who do frametimes? People who are looking for that level of detail are typically familiar with those who show it vs those who do not. Not everybody needs to break it down to the nitty gritty. Avg FPS and 1% lows is usually enough for the typical gamer.

blessed to display frametimes?

Also, so blessed that NVIDIA blacklisted them until they got backlash

[zenith sonnet]

TPU does them
GN sometimes does them as well

[dry tendon]

Frametimes are weird. I still dont understand why 6900 XT has better frametimes at 8K than a 3090 (despite slightly lower pure fps)

At 8K, the 3090 finally has more raw bandwidth for sure but still (at 5K a 6900 XT still has massively higher actual raw bandwidth)

Ultimately, NO reviewers test CPUs or GPUs perfectly

HU is decent. Nothing more though

[zenith sonnet]

The most peculiar part is that the 6000 series have stable frame time graphs where other cards struggle

[fickle ore]

you don't need to see frametimes, 1% lows are enough

[fickle ore]

More efficient driver, less dependant on the CPU + SAM = less latency

• Cache

[dry tendon]

The RX 6000 driver is not ... more efficient. Its better in DX12 and Vulkan in CPU limited scenarios, true, but in most (not all!) DX9, 10, OpenGL, and DX11 scenarios it is less efficient.

[chrome estuary]

what would be a better choice on average. 6800XT or 3070?

[dry tendon]

definitely 6800 XT. Its more of a 3080 competitor than a 3070 one

6800 XT is overall slightly weaker in RT, true, but due to sheer brute power it STILL sometimes beats the 2080 Ti and 3070 even in RT.

[reef tundra]

The low-level driver/firmware is more streamlined

[chrome estuary]

alrighty

shit wait i meant 6700xt

[reef tundra]

mu two world wars

[dry tendon]

3070 > 6700 XT

at same price id buy 3070 despite its shite VRAM

[reef tundra]

Why not both

[chrome estuary]

do you have the like 5000$ to buy both?

okay it's closer to 2400ish but it'll feel like 5000

[reef tundra]

Hmm, take the item and run

no payment needed

[crisp granite]

small loan of 1 million dollars

and a bag of milk