🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

Its a CTF challenge!

seems like it may involve sql injection

[young pecan]

Ah.

[wheat plume]

INTEGERT
??

Misspelling? hold up a sec

[wheat plume]

this hurts me

[reef tundra]

Enforce ancii or drop table

Emojis are no

[wheat plume]

OOOO this solution is so cool

https://youtu.be/WmCioU9F2_8

[reef tundra]

I like the drop table solution

[wheat plume]

:P

[timid chasm]

offended

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/7kmttmmlygc

His reaction to seeing a .pug file is great :')

[old marlin]

I know that shirt

[wheat plume]

xd

[old marlin]

my brother has one of those

[wheat plume]

hm?

[old marlin]

[wheat plume]

oh!

All you can see is a plain blue part, so wtf

[ashen spindle]

huh so nvidia confirmed the LHR versions

and that the 3090 does not get a has limiter

zzz

[crisp granite]

that's kinda pog

[ashen spindle]

how so

[crisp granite]

it means miners can get those cards and actually mine on them

most gamers don't have interest in a $1500 card

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that also means there won't be any dies that could go either to 3080 or 3090 to 3080s because they can always sell out the 3090 sku

so it means less cards for gamers

[crisp granite]

that leads me to one dumb question

3080s use slightly defective 3090 chips

they can't take a defective chip and throw it into a 90 sku

can they?

[ashen spindle]

no but usually after production has been going for a while the defect rate gets so low, that you use working chips that could go into a 90, for a 80 instead

because they aren't going to stop making the 80 just because they dont get broken dies anymore

[crisp granite]

oh

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/E59xZyDFiJ8 oo

[shadow minnow]

Wish you could get smaller monitors for acceptable price with good contrast than lg c1

[ashen spindle]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16688/hot-chips-33-2021-schedule-announced-alder-lake-ibm-z-sapphire-rapids-ponte-vecchio

meh alder lake time slot is only 30 minutes

[astral haven]

Not free lol

[crisp granite]

FUCKING POG

3060Ti is arriving next week!!!

[astral haven]

Congrats

[true quest]

anyone know what's with the steam messaging scam, what it does

[reef tundra]

Valve cant ban them if it happens offsite

So they get you offsite and eh take all they can

Overbuy is always a scam. why noy buy from market directly, its even cheaper. Usually they tell some bs how this or that dont work.

[crisp granite]

well then, what do you propose, daddy Locke?

GoG?

[crimson wigeon]

EPIC GAMES STORE

[reef tundra]

If your house is on fire, dont set it on fire but go fishing instead

[crimson wigeon]

Because it supports multiple windows

[crisp granite]

I don't

I never use it

[reef tundra]

Doesnt mean you should not know how to identify scams

Well now they know

[true quest]

you don't need to have steam messagging open to get notified you got a message

[reef tundra]

All means shit if you give the codes out unknowingly

[crisp granite]

it really is

everyone seems so...heated

[true quest]

even more so when they bypass that list completely

yeah, i'd like to know why destroyter69 is messaging me when we have no one in common

[reef tundra]

I just go and play a game

[crisp granite]

O.O

yeah

that is an idiot move

[zenith sonnet]

Steam's 2fa is nice

They give you multiple options to work with

Like email and the mobile app

Then there's assholes like Discord and god knows who, who only use it to collect your mobile phone number, so they can sell or "leak" it next chance they get

[crimson wigeon]

And they totally won't accidentally release drivers that don't have the restrictions no sir

[ashen spindle]

why would it make people upset?

dont see how it would matter for any non miner that the SKU is different

that's not really a nvidia fault that is retailer handling it in a dumb way

if someone is in waitlist for a idk, MSI suprim X, then just put people into the suprim x LHR list in the same order

[zenith sonnet]

This isn't gonna stop miners from using those cards
They're always gonna find ways around the limiter, or other things to mine on those cards
This is just another PR stunt. And maybe something to do with investors, last time they got a lawsuit iirc

[ashen spindle]

given most of it is just a manual list, yeah no problem there

[proper crystal]

But now, Nvidia can also sell special mining only cards to miners.
Cards that won't later flood the second hand market because they have fused off display out.

[zenith sonnet]

Some of these might not even be worth the money vs. a limited card from the newer lineup, depending on the workload

[proper crystal]

Miners will buy anything.

[reef tundra]

Even a rock?

[proper crystal]

Because it's about getting as many cards as you can get as fast as you can get them, to have the highest share of the global hashrate.

[proper crystal]

If it can hash, they yes.

[reef tundra]

Iraq is on the auction now

beginning at 8443 warcrimes

buyer to collect

[proper crystal]

Now I am imagining a dystopian future where the poor people manually calculate hash algorithms for crypto 🤣

[reef tundra]

Human do math to eat

The rich do meth

But wait. they could just seize control really quickly. Refuse to work, no money for everyone

[young pecan]

@proper crystal The cards are also hot garbage for any particular task and they're way overpriced.

Even if there were display outputs it wouldn't be worth buying if you're a gamer.

[crisp granite]

so

it's just a complete waste of everyone's time

[young pecan]

Shit, think about the mining performance. The highest tier mining card does about 30MH/s, it's apparently about what a 3090 should be, and that monster of a card does 120MH/s.

Yeah, Doge, basically.

[crisp granite]

unless you can buy them in bulk, at a super steep discount

and have super cheap power

[young pecan]

No miner is willingly going to buy those cards because they use too much power and don't have enough performance.

Even buying them cheap wouldn't be worth it since you could buy last gen mid tier that would do better for cheaper while using less power.

Nobody is going to buy the mining cards, it isn't very profitable to do so.

[ashen spindle]

that's why they are being smuggled

[crisp granite]

not if you get them at a...100% discount and your ROI is...0

[young pecan]

Price to performance ratio is infinite.

Oh please, mining is far from the worst thing in that problem.

Pretty high up, but nowhere near the worst. :L

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/f6wlrYwwjWQ

[young pecan]

Fucking global idiots not just accepting nuclear power. -_-

[crisp granite]

yeah, I think vegans are worse than miners tbh

[young pecan]

I just hope ITER works.

[crisp granite]

especially the ones who get mad at you for going face-first into a meat pie

[young pecan]

I really genuinely hope ITER works.

Pls, ITER, give us fusion power. Pls.

My position on shit hasn't changed, Locke. :P

[crisp granite]

mans just become more...vocal

[young pecan]

wheeeze

Nah, I'm always like this. :D

[crisp granite]

so?

[young pecan]

Dude, we need better power.

[crisp granite]

Australia is coal powered

[young pecan]

Less coal, more renewables and nuclear.

[crisp granite]

Aeon really isn't in much of a position to change that

[young pecan]

And hopefully ITER in the near future.

[reef tundra]

Coal is total shit

[young pecan]

I'd need to really work at becoming uber rich to change it. :L

Though I can kinda see Elon trying it.

If ITER turns out to be net gain at a good price I see him dumping a lot of money in.

He's fine with fusion, just the fission he hates.

Everyone and their cat should be fine with fusion.

I'll be the first to say Elon does stupid shit occasionally, but nah.

Haven't seen the frankly rampant attempts of his at pushing for more advanced and less damaging battery tech?

It's not really working since we're kinda at the practical limit of batteries, but damn if he's not trying.

Mmm, hydro doesn't really work all that well in Aus, dude.

Not a lot of options as far as storing power goes.

I suppose that and the people that even own the farm don't seem related to Elon.

[reef tundra]

Fusion is combining atoms, fission is splitting atoms

[young pecan]

^

Requires different technologies entirely.

[reef tundra]

with iron being the end point if you extract all of that power

[proper crystal]

That's the raw energy positive operation. Put in all the inefficiencies during all the energy form changes, and you end way before getting to iron.

[reef tundra]

Unless you plan to deal with super nova senarios you wont

[proper crystal]

We have had energy positive fusion a couple times. Never positive enough for us to be able to extract more energy than we put in (theoretically)

[young pecan]

Uhh, no.

We've never had energy positive fusion, not yet.

[reef tundra]

We do, in hydrogen bombs

[young pecan]

Current gen stuff might be the tipping point, have never had a stable reaction going tho.

[reef tundra]

Needs a primary fission stage to give enough energy for the fusion part

[proper crystal]

I think JET had one positive ignition.

[young pecan]

We've had plenty of positive ignitions, but we haven't been able to sustain a reaction without needing to dump shitloads of energy yet.

[reef tundra]

But if the pressure is not maintained and fuel is not available it dies out

[young pecan]

@prisma crag He said one, I know of 4 different reactors that can do ignitions just fine.

[proper crystal]

That echoes my point, really. It's now more about being able to extract enough energy.

[young pecan]

Mhmm.

Hence why I'm hyped about ITER.

Good chances at that at least kicking the race off.

[proper crystal]

Well ITER is more about sustaining the reaction. It is not designed for energy extraction 😦
Originally it was, but then they scrapped it (cost reasons...) and extraction is planned for DEMO which who knows when that thing ever kicks off.

Given the benefits of getting fusion working, it is criminally underfunded.

[young pecan]

Hey if a reaction can be sustained and is within theoretical bounds for extraction it'll do some interesting things.

And yeah man, it's horrific how little funding is put into fusion.

It's theoretically unlimited clean energy.

Bruh.

The next logical upgrade to planetary fusion is shit like dyson swarms.

[proper crystal]

Also funny to see "eco activists" from France protest ITER. Especially given France's reliance on fission (which is also a good thing IMO)

[young pecan]

Better than coal, lmfao...

[reef tundra]

Oil would be better, gas even more

[proper crystal]

Or Austria. They build up a nuclear power plant.
Then the government wanted to increase their popularity so they had a referendum about whether to put this (completely finished) power plant online.
Austrian people for some reason decided they don't want nuclear.

So Austria ended up with a finished nuclear power plant they couldn't turn on because people said "no".

[zenith sonnet]

People be stupid

[young pecan]

This is why you don't give a voice to idiots about really important shit.

[zenith sonnet]

Unfortunately, that's how democracies operate

It sucks

[reef tundra]

Wind and solar are not reliable enough for keeping power grids alive

[crisp granite]

I wish canada figured that out regarding the pipelines

we needed those to bolster the economy of alberta, till we could find something better than the tar sands

but no, white "activists" say pipeline that was built with pretty much all native reserve's approval is bad

[reef tundra]

Europes power net can completely go dark if one country misbehaved and was not disconnected from the net

Happended multiple times that entire countries were just cut off to save the rest

Often have to be made in moments notice

[zenith sonnet]

Seems to work

Power has been very stable in the past decade or two

[proper crystal]

Yup. And for an example of what an isolated power grid can do... Texas?

German de-nuclearization is a big issue for the future, requiring other countries to beef up their reserves. Which they are mostly doing.

[reef tundra]

If they do their job right you never notice too much of the constant issues the net endures. Total blackout is game over and catastrophic failure

With wind or solar you cant ask it to burn faster. You get what you get and best you can do is enable/disable them.

[proper crystal]

Exactly.

Whereas if a small isolated grid fails... you're fucked.

[reef tundra]

also the damage is more limited

We humans also make this harder as solar is most productive midday and in the evening we consume the most power.

[proper crystal]

Yeah. I would like to see more investment in hydro batteries.

[reef tundra]

Maybe electrolysis for fueling transport and fueling gas generators. At a significant lower efficiency though.

Then again highly combustible hydrogen gas and oxidiser can go wrong quickly

[fickle ore]

it doesnt need to be lower efficiency

[reef tundra]

True.. as you are doing it to soak excessive energy production

[fickle ore]

Use of "we" when talking science is weird, idk if its a language thing but it paints the image you were part of the research/process

[proper crystal]

I think it's a language thing. In English it is common in this context, the "we" is general, "we as the totality of humanity".

[reef tundra]

I do have to question the vetting process to use a keyboard discord channel to discuss the topic on scientific/academic level

[fickle ore]

wat

[astral haven]

This is not true, there are driving techniques for solar to bleed power, and wind is variable speed too

You never get more but you can choose to get less

[reef tundra]

That an active study or research study would be done here on that topic

[fickle ore]

You can optimize wind as you can optimize solar

and for sure you can get more

[zenith sonnet]

How efficient is
solar > hydrogen > fuel cell
vs
solar > battery
in overall carbon footprint and in efficiency?

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet this is probably impossible to answer with so many different techniques and variables and money, so not worth delving into

[crisp granite]

true that

this is the last place I'd talk about such things

[zenith sonnet]

I would assume purchasable consumer tech today

[fickle ore]

carbon footprint isn't that bad, provided we have enough stuff that binds the said carbon

[zenith sonnet]

Well, batteries have a terrible carbon footprint and environmental impact
I would avoid investing into batteries if a can, it just makes no sense

[reef tundra]

Hydrogen is going to be more energy dense and capable to push more the electric form than batteries would. The formation takes in water, generator turns it back into water. No carbon involed

[zenith sonnet]

You make hydrogen where you make the power, and transport said hydrogen. It's more efficient that way

[reef tundra]

You do need to add electrolites which cant be salt due to clorine gas production as by product

[fickle ore]

Most efficient is having in-situ electrolysis in the car =b=b

[zenith sonnet]

The "dream" would be to replace the current methane/natural gas network with hydrogen
That way, you could generate electricity and fuel your car at home as needed

Also, since it's not liquid, it's easy to transport over pipes

The infrastructure already exists

[reef tundra]

The reasons EV takes longer to charge is that you dont burn your batteries too and replace them everytime

[fickle ore]

EV is yesteryears tech

even the Li stocks tell you that!

[reef tundra]

Gasses do move much easier though pipes, sometimes able to forego pumps altogether. It can go up, down, left, right split, and become wider or narrow. With little care for the gravity.

And their compressibility is nice

[zenith sonnet]

I can't think of a better way to do clean energy
Fuel cells to produce electricity, either at home, or on a city block basis, foregoing high voltage networks altogether
Hydrogen distribution using a pipe network similar to the existing natural gas networks
Vehicles powered with fuel cells, foregoing the massive need for environmentally terrible batteries

Large scale hydrogen distribution again similar, using pipelines or tankers

[reef tundra]

Replacing batteries mostly lead acid ones

[zenith sonnet]

Lithium batteries are even worse

Lead acid batteries are toxic, but easy to make and easy to recycle

[reef tundra]

Fire risks, the means of treatment to workers is weird, It also has psychological effect in the brain

oh right and their alkali metals

[astral haven]

Piping hydrogen is a nightmare

[reef tundra]

water boom

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet yeah it's the dream, but we need few years for better and cheaper electrolysis

[astral haven]

Electricity is fantastic

It just works

And atm hydrogen is less energy dense because of all the safety equipment required

[reef tundra]

But we need to work with an unideal way with them

Sometimes exploits

[zenith sonnet]

If you can make it more efficient than "put electric wire in water, get hydrogen out", you're in for a nobel prize

[fickle ore]

I see every household having either in-house electrolysis and fuel cells in the future or solar or geothermic plant

[old marlin]

depends on the exact usage

hydrogen is better for long term storage

infrastructure is expensive

[reef tundra]

Hydrogen is already being transported around as many processes release it as byproduct in making what they need

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet it's a bit more complex than that, there is a lot of research going for different means to do electrolysis

[old marlin]

and long term just going directly to battery with EVs will be the longer term goal

[fickle ore]

infra isnt expensive

[old marlin]

well

it is

[fickle ore]

nop

[old marlin]

you need to equip gas stations etc

[reef tundra]

It is and recurringly

[zenith sonnet]

I see every household having either in-house electrolysis and fuel cells in the future
I'm actually considering this

[reef tundra]

governments are not known to give to much about maintaining infrastructure

[old marlin]

dunno how dense of an energy electrolysis would be as a home storage

[zenith sonnet]

To store solar power? Might not make sense though, we'll see

[old marlin]

atm havbing a home storage is GOOD in germany

since you get 10 cents flat for solar power to the grid while paying ~28 for getting power from the grid

which is just

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet currently the best you can do is geoheat aka ground heat pump, then you add couple solar panels and if you design a house well you might not need much more 🙂

[old marlin]

energy storage would still be good atm

also geoheat might not be worth it in some regions

you should know that best

[zenith sonnet]

Get 40 m² of solar panels, some way to store hydrogen from electrolysis, and fuel cells
I mean, to power a household even a simple 5kW cell is going to be good enough, provided you're not disconnected from the network to cover peak usage

[old marlin]

unsure if hydrogen is that good of an energy storage

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, that too

[old marlin]

or if braindead water tower is better

or rather

if the density of water is high enough

[zenith sonnet]

I think building height restrictions are the issue 😄

[old marlin]

ig

[zenith sonnet]

Quicksilver tower for higher density

[old marlin]

hydro is over 80%

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet ya man a proper 20-30k€ geopump is like 2/3 of all electrity your house uses, it runs about 400-500 meters in the ground

thats my plan

considering options ofc

[old marlin]

hydrogen density is a couple hundred time higher

but efficiency is like less than half

to a third

[zenith sonnet]

A think I mixed that up
I was actually thinking about heat pump and water tank

[old marlin]

sub 50% at least

still worth it in germany

depending on your contract

even flywheel is better

so uhh

want like 10 tons of spinning mass in your basement

ready to go flying and destroying your house at any moment

[crisp granite]

yes please

[old marlin]

or overheating your generator and setting it on fire

[crisp granite]

where do I sign up?

[old marlin]

[reef tundra]

https://www.renewableh2.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Electrolysis-Future-Cost-and-Performance-Study-2017.pdf

[fickle ore]

there is a lot of talk about nanomaterials in electrolysis and for solar panels that increase efficiency

wish nasa would sell me those 40-50% eff panels

[old marlin]

efficiency is not the problem

actually

[zenith sonnet]

Do you need to 'power down' your flywheel for maintenance?

[old marlin]

for germans at least

the problem is how little you get for it

you pay close to three times more to receive power

[fickle ore]

@old marlin https://www.tus.ac.jp/en/mediarelations/archive/20200227001.html

[old marlin]

so when you get home after work and turn on your washing machine you get little solar power

to none even depending on the time of the year

oh you meant electrolysis

ye

but still

water is better

a lot of regions in germany have natural inclines

[fickle ore]

ahh you meant solar powa

idk

[old marlin]

which would make large hyrdo storages a good option

where you "pay into the grid" in kwh

and can get those back for free or less cost from the grid

by paying in the power station

like even if you still pay 10 cent per kwh just for that

you save 30% on that power

otherwise solar would be a braindead option atm

roi is just too long atm

[fickle ore]

can't you store solar easily, atleast here you can and you can also sell it back to grid

[old marlin]

yea

like I said

you can sell it back

at 10 cents a kwh

and you buy at 28 cents a kwh

roughly

german electricity prices are high af

due to eu sanctions

we import too little

[reef tundra]

Germany overproduces a ton in north few years back. Still a thing?

[old marlin]

wdym exactly

electricity?

like

we could overproduce to hell and back

[reef tundra]

Electricity

[old marlin]

if we wanted to

we have a ton of wind power ready to go

most of it standing around

[fickle ore]

Most pv panels they sell atm are like 20% eff sadly, or I would consider them in the Finnish climate. Say a 30k€ geopump + 20k€ for panels should be roughly 95% of the house's electricity. Would require like 15-30 years to pay back. Geopump pays itself back in like 5-7 yrs tho.

[old marlin]

even though they already produce more power than coal here

geopump is good

but depends on whre you live

[astral haven]

V2g will make storing and saving electricity alot more accessible and efficient

[neat oriole]

Germany reopening coal plants

[old marlin]

actually

germany is shutting down coal

wants to pay 4.3 billion to coal companies

but no worries

[reef tundra]

Coal power plants release 6x times more radiation than nuclear reactors

[zenith sonnet]

Shutting down fission plants was the beginning of the end for sane German electricity

[old marlin]

they atm are destroying the origins of germany for lime

[zenith sonnet]

Should have shut down coal instead

But muh mining jobs

[reef tundra]

Mining is a miserable job to have

[zenith sonnet]

Now they shut down the mines anyway and import coal

[old marlin]

not typical mining

[zenith sonnet]

[old marlin]

"tagebau"

so open mines

basically what germany perfected

[reef tundra]

Like in Afrika?

[old marlin]

no like

[umbral knot]

Nuclear power #1

[reef tundra]

big open pit

[old marlin]

put the biggest excavator in the world trhere

and let it make the biggest hole

aka

[reef tundra]

trucks moving in and out

[old marlin]

how german coal went

or is going

[fickle ore]

We just burn peat.

[old marlin]

putting hambach to scale is just impossible

[zenith sonnet]

Yikes

[old marlin]

no image captures how fucking huge that hole is

[reef tundra]

Known to be destructive to the enviorment so much that only newly adapted animals would return in those pits

[old marlin]

they are still ongoing

not the first artificial desert in germany

[reef tundra]

Gemfields’ Kagem emerald mine, Zambia

[old marlin]

[fickle ore]

I'm a german miner brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[old marlin]

is this a joke

tagebau hambach

[reef tundra]

Deepest one goes 1 km believe for diamonds

[old marlin]

hambach goes to 500m

over 8.5k hectar

total that is

atm planned to be stopped in 2030

and then they want to "recultivate" it

idk what they will do after that

maybe dig the lithium from the rhein

which only got there because of the coal industry

who could have known lithium would be valuable one day

[fickle ore]

Russians will provide you a lot of hydrogen and nitrogen via nordstream

[reef tundra]

https://www.statista.com/chart/13994/global-deaths-per-energy-source/

[old marlin]

anyways imma go to sleep

almost 3 am

[zenith sonnet]

+1

._.

[old marlin]

lol

[reef tundra]

Also remember we can bury nuclear waste again the others release it into the air

[zenith sonnet]

Or use a large cannon, and shoot it on a trajectory to the sun

[neat oriole]

Also newer technology that recycles waste material

Nuclear >> coal

[reef tundra]

Anything >> coal

[zenith sonnet]

I'm sad that everyone is anti-nuclear because of some Green idiots and politics 😦

[fickle ore]

Nuclear waste is not that problematic, it just requires some adaptation/evolution which sadly means 90%+ of the population dying. There was nice document about Chernobyl lately. The place is literally swarming with life. The lifeforms just adapted to repairing their own DNA better.

[reef tundra]

Chernobyl is pretty much clean now

Tourists can go there

[zenith sonnet]

Nah, nowhere close

The dose is survivable

[reef tundra]

Its still above safe levels for permanent residence

[fickle ore]

Thankfully for us sentimentals, it can be alleviated with a specific diet high in antioxidants, reducing cell oxidation :>

[zenith sonnet]

But an hour there still gets you as much radiation as your yearly dose of background radiation

[reef tundra]

anti-oxidents in your food are not used by your body. none of them. It makes its own anti-oxident

[zenith sonnet]

Too many anti-oxidants is bad again, though
Radicals help against cancer, amongst other things. Balance is key
Modern diet is excessive in radicals, though

Vitamins C and E are antioxidants the body literally cannot make

[fickle ore]

eaten antioxidants bind oxygen and therefore radiation

[fickle ore]

were there others?

[reef tundra]

Anti-oxidents are to sacrifice themselves against radical molecules the mitochondria produces

[zenith sonnet]

I dunno

Anyway, it's way too complicated to be fully understood yet

[reef tundra]

Radical molecules really want to bind to something

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet idk it just comes down to oxidation-reduction reactions and electronegativity

But you're right it's never that simple 😄

gn

[reef tundra]

It does seem taking them as supplements have little to no proven effects. However Vitamins can withstand alll the acids and turned usefull when needed which are C, E and A vitamin.

[astral haven]

*Supplements beyond the nescessary

[fickle ore]

@reef tundra google into chemotherapy, radiation treatment and vitamin supplementation

[reef tundra]

Eh, expecting my doctors to fully understand this and resolve any issues that flare up. Their knowledge is infinitely more

[crisp granite]

ah yes

they didn't get into 6 figures of debt just so you could ignore their advice and just google home cures, trusting random people on the web more than a learned professional

[fickle ore]

if you use google to google home cures thats on you, not me.

[reef tundra]

Good to have a basic understanding, but there is a reason it takes 6 years op practical hand on work to earn the title

[crisp granite]

4 years med

after at least 3-4 years of university

[fickle ore]

welp, I'm out, this discussion quickly went to poopers

[crisp granite]

just to even get in the door

then there's on the job training for a few more years

[reef tundra]

And dont insist on the doctors to administer medication.

[crisp granite]

then you can specialize, and maybe even get more studying, learning, training, debt

:|

why the fuck did I choose that as a career path

starting to hate myself more and more

[young pecan]

Doctors are like Asian kids. There’s always one that knows more than you do.

Always listen to the doctor.

[reef tundra]

There is never one answer to anything

[crisp granite]

yeah, 'specially with medicine

[young pecan]

Nope, but you have a better chance at not dying if you listen to someone with an idea of how it works. :P

Current doctor gives you the bad vibes? Visit different doctor.

[reef tundra]

And your body might just be odd and decides to break the medication down meaning you need something else

[young pecan]

Or as bing says, rub toothpaste into the effected area and wait 72 hours.

[crisp granite]

or your body just might not react to it at all

[young pecan]

👌

[crisp granite]

or react in a worse way

[crisp granite]

instructions unclear, green blood oozing from penis tip

[zenith sonnet]

Me and NSAIDs

[reef tundra]

My liver really decimates caffeine

[young pecan]

shrugs Docs tend to listen to that, y’know? If you report something bad or nothing is happening they’ll do their jobs.

Shit, most of em are there to be good people. It’s hilarious how many are like that.

[reef tundra]

need to chuck and 15 minutes close to fine

[fickle ore]

Idk how you guys went from me telling you how vitamins help against radiation, to somehow me giving bad medical advice. Oh well.

[reef tundra]

iodine

[young pecan]

Wait wot?

[crisp granite]

I like all my iodine isotopes

the higher the number, the better

[young pecan]

Iodine-131: hello there

[reef tundra]

Especially when they send out their first type of friend seekers

[crisp granite]

that's my personal fave

she kicks like a warhorse

but the taste

[young pecan]

Fuckin’ half life of a week.

Bruh.

[crisp granite]

really somthing else

[young pecan]

131 is actually terrifying.

Damn near all of the radiation burns to the Chernobyl firefighters were caused by 131 being horrible.

Halflife of 8 fucking days. Jeeeeeez.

[reef tundra]

Oh thats why iodine is recommended to be taken

to keep that out

[crisp granite]

excuse me while I just chug this bottle of iodine based disinfectant solution

[reef tundra]

2.878% of the fissile product becomes i-131

[crisp granite]

gotta keep the rads away somehow

[young pecan]

@reef tundra Mhmm, and even then it’s more than enough to royally fuck up everything biological even near it.

[reef tundra]

The short life span is terrible

More energy the body has to tank each second

[young pecan]

Strontium and Caesium are both terrible to deal with, but they’re nothing compared to the unholy nightmare of Iodine-131.

[reef tundra]

They weaken bones and making you very high risk group to blood cancer

[young pecan]

Mhmm, but high risk cancer is better than outright death from radiation exposure that takes anywhere from a day to 2 weeks.

At least to a point.

[fickle ore]

no need to care about I131 when you have much more K40 😛

[young pecan]

:P

Maybe if I lived for long enough for any of it to really decay.

[fickle ore]

just stop exercising hehehe

[young pecan]

Bruh, the real pog move is just making contacts out of strontium.

Defo won’t end badly.

[reef tundra]

That would only accelerate the osteoporosis

[young pecan]

Osteopogosis.

Embrace the 50s, glowing shit is worth the risk.

[fickle ore]

whats wrong with Sr? There's trace quantities in soil and water UwU

[reef tundra]

Even nowadays we have little knowledge how to treat acute radiation poisoning than in the 50s 60s it feels like. Or did they make significant progresss that isnt just symptom handling?

[young pecan]

a m p u t a t e a r e a

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout2-i-have-to-piss-enclave-soldier-fallout-have-to-piss-gif-20145935

bing in a nutshell ^^

[fickle ore]

@reef tundra Well it much depends on the source of radiation, external or internal

internal get it out asap if u can then do same as external - I guess it has progressed if its possible to repair dna these days

[reef tundra]

Alpha radiation being the worst but paper holding it back

But its mostly the old way of manage symptoms and hope?

[fickle ore]

@reef tundra alpha radiation is only worst if its internal or absorbs into organs, because it cant penetrate skin

Don't know about the medical side soz

[reef tundra]

Dna too kaput, self death

Enough do it together and necrosis becomes an concern

Anycase dont eat it and stay away from it with as much protection

[young pecan]

@fickle ore Alpha can’t penetrate into deep tissue, but it can still cause a lot of problems for surface tissues.

Cancer, cell death, etc etc.

Just because it can’t penetrate all the way through doesn’t mean it isn’t extremely dangerous. :P

[reef tundra]

Blood can sometimes nicely spread shit around

[young pecan]

There’s a promotion for the Samsung Odyssey G5 atm. 33 inch curved display 1440p 144Hz 1ms time.
$500 AUD.

How tf did Samsung manage to even make it to be sold at that price?

Wouldn’t have been more than a few years ago that was considered a very premium display, proper 800+ territory.

Would not be shocked at $1,200+.

[astral haven]

It's dim

Also yes
Things get cheaper over time

2 years ago you could get 1440p165 with a proper gsync module for $350 too

[shadow minnow]

I mean, currently the lower end 1440p 144 monitors started entering more budget price territory, especially since there is 1080p 360 1440 240 and 4K 144 now. Still the price for 33 curved is quite surprisingly low

[young pecan]

Which is what I thought, yeah.

Curved displays add a lot of price to a monitor, that combined with the other feature set is what’s throwing me off, not the panel specs.

[astral haven]

the dell gsync 1440p 165 was the first one into that segment

curved doesnt add much manufacturing cost any more

specially for plastic panels

[young pecan]

No, but it adds a lot when you buy it from a shop.

Fancy curved tax.

Here in Aus it’s not uncommon for it to just slap 150 on stuff.

Any curved TV at 75 inch or above will typically cost about 700 more than the non curved, for example.

[astral haven]

curved tv what?

[young pecan]

You don’t have those?

We still get a few here and there.

[astral haven]

havent seen them

[young pecan]

Point being you make a curved panel and stores love to just add a premium tag to it.

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️

with the rise of online shopping the more readily available it is the closer it stays to msrp

[shadow minnow]

So now ima only be waiting for now are silicone inserts to bend PETG tubing, and replacement mobo, since PSU cables should arrive today, and monitor is well, held at customs

[chrome estuary]

I own the Samsung G5. It's a ice monitor

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/6WgjQpm9VWE

This video reminds me of the time someone asked me to teach them how to use virtual box
and nothing worked so I asked them to boot into bios to enable virtualisation and they had a fucking breakdown about "OH MY GOD THIS IS TOO COMPLICATED" "OH MY GOD, IF THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO THIS THEN YOU HAVE WASTED MY TIME" and I was like.. "UGH, good luck then, there is no other way"

[fickle ore]

Yes, but e.g gamma or neutron is worse as external source, I did not say it isn't dangerous, just less so. :>

but enough with this

[shadow minnow]

Really hope my mobo boot loop did not damage any other components

[cursive summit]

What the hell is this

Man I blame the motherboard on these things

Just reading on reddit

Suddenly screen goes black, no connection

PC goes full restart

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-hacked-they-gain-access-they-got-into-our-system-they-got-into-our-computer-they-got-our-information-gif-15543841

[pale sigil]

[cursive summit]

What a deal

[fickle ore]

@cursive summit too high RAM/IF overclocks or certain voltages on ryzen pc

[cursive summit]

I don't OC anything

All is stock

[wheat plume]

idk how to feel about the new Android 12 Quick toggle design

https://youtu.be/k0KgIyh1REA

[solemn compass]

I think android 12 looks pretty good. You can customize almost every aspect, color scheme, thickness of borders etc

[wheat plume]

yeh :D

its pretty sweet but very dang bright in the notification shade

[solemn compass]

also a focus on privacy, disable mic, camera. through software though but anyway

[solemn compass]

yea, but dark theme 😉

[wheat plume]

Reminds me a bit of MIUI 12 control center

[solemn compass]

right, yea. they also looked at oneplus' 'skin', oneUI(?)

[wheat plume]

OneUI is Samsung!

[solemn compass]

ah yea

[wheat plume]

OxygenOS is OnePlus

[shadow minnow]

Kinda like it, but can’t you set custom color? Don’t really like the like shade tbh, but with some shades it could look pretty good

[solemn compass]

right

[wheat plume]

Yeah, you can change accent color in 11

and 10

very...very OneUI :P

[solemn compass]

you can completely change the color scheme in 12, every accent. and also set it to your background automatically. you can also let it generate accent colors based on a primary color

[solemn compass]

yea, but i really like oneui tho

[wheat plume]

OOOOOOO, IS THIS LIKE IN CUSTOM ROMS WHERE YOU CAN SKIP SONGS USING VVOLUME KEY WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF?!

I hope so

I miss that feature

[wheat plume]

is the gif glitchy af?

[solemn compass]

yea it is lol

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/content/images/2021/05/18/android12.gif?itok=qjXatbTw&width=1024&height=576&impolicy=semi_dynamic

[shadow minnow]

I wish I could have three or four instead of two devices in iOS control center. Kinda sucks when I have three devices and two slots, so one always is not there. Not that I used control center instead of Siri for setting up lights often but still. Even though one shortcut to control both lights mostly fixes that

[wheat plume]

IDK why the UI design reminds me of DeepinOS so much

[shadow minnow]

Why does Microsoft have such a terrible emojis

[wheat plume]

they arent as bad as samsungs ones

and facebook

[solemn compass]

yea haha

[reef tundra]

Imagine getting hyped for mobile phone os. if it calls and browses the websites its suitable

[shadow minnow]

Prefer even Samsung emojis over the Microsoft ones tbh. Or the default emojis for discord are terrible, literally sometimes have bit different meaning since they look completely differently. Really like most of iOS emojis tbh

[solemn compass]

sure, i only use my phone like an hour a day max. I saw in the digital health section. but it's nice to have new features 😛

and having new customization options is always nice 🙂

[shadow minnow]

I use my phone, lot of hours a day, lot more than a pc

[solemn compass]

im a sucker for in depth customization

[wheat plume]

you would have soooo much fun on Plasma desktop

[shadow minnow]

I am not on phone. Having something like BIOS on pc is nice but once it’s all set up, don’t really care about customization that much if default option are pretty good

Is there any way to change default emojis on windows 10?

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/hYAuR5bkIlQ

[young pecan]

@solemn compass Have you done any home automation with HomeAssistant? You’d probably nut at the sheer custom LoveLace panels.

[solemn compass]

that's linux?

[shadow minnow]

Lana recommended it to you, it’s obviously Linux :’)

[solemn compass]

i do have a bit, but living with my parents. so it's quite limited haha. haven't heard of lovelace panels. cheers

[young pecan]

You’ll love em.

Fully custom panels for literally everything.

[shadow minnow]

I mean, tbh, I would go for Linux myself if it was not for the app compatibility

[young pecan]

ALL of the integrations.

[solemn compass]

cool

[reef tundra]

IOT enabled and globally accessable by default?

[solemn compass]

yea, i would love to have a work computer fully linux, but for normal usage, mostly gaming i still like windows

[young pecan]

@reef tundra Yes. LoveLace integrates with HomeAssist which by default links to everything IOT related in any sense.

[solemn compass]

it looks really good yea

[young pecan]

You can quite literally have panels that do everything you could possibly ever want.

[wheat plume]

World's most customisable desktop :D

[reef tundra]

IOT is a mistake

[wheat plume]

I say desktop, cause window managers are much more customisable than a full desktop is

[solemn compass]

oh I have seen lovelace panels. that's really cool yea

[solemn compass]

cool, yea. that's awesome

[young pecan]

How is IOT a mistake?

Great technology.

[shadow minnow]

I guess it’s windows 10 but windows 10 just feels like OS from 2000-2010 and don’t really like it tbh, prefer macOS or Linux, but have no way of getting some software work that way

[ashen spindle]

current IOT and how the industry wants it is a mistake imo

the idea is great, implementation F-

[young pecan]

How so? I can think of quite a few things, but what’re your thoughts?

[solemn compass]

it is great, but it also makes it easy for companies to make your light bulbs a 'service' if they want. is the company in a tough spot, you need to pay 5 bucks a month to use your light.

[young pecan]

Mhmm, that’s the fucked bit.

[shadow minnow]

Yeah that sucks

[solemn compass]

it does happen

that's why I always watch out what the protocol is and if you can self host a way to control them if you need

[ashen spindle]

things that should be smartly controlled are smart themselves so your fridge does shit on its own instead of you having a ub or so that can control it

all is cloud based for the sole reason for them to get your data

and make you dependant on their service

when you could host it all on your self locally etc.\

[young pecan]

Is HomeAssistant not exactly that?

[ashen spindle]

also goes hand in hand with steps taken against right to repair to make it less something you own when you buy it

[reef tundra]

Just having more data doesnt mean its useful could even be detrimental if you over analyse and come to wrong conclusions.

[young pecan]

Locally hosted, pretty easy to configure, not a really big learning curve, etc.

[solemn compass]

google, apple and amazon are making a new IoT protocol, a new Zigbee if you will. and one side i'm happy for more united protocols, but they can f*ck up older protocols if they want

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that isn't the default and not working with every IoT device

[young pecan]

Yeah, that’s true.

[ashen spindle]

and even if it would be, that would not be enough because 99% of people would use the default cloud based setup as we see with ring/nest

[solemn compass]

but HomeAssistant is not really accessible for not-tech people i think

and cloud-based is 'easy'

[reef tundra]

IEEE already have a specification for embedded networking

[young pecan]

Hmmm.

[ashen spindle]

• pushes garbage needs for 5G instead of having actual usefull cases of using that etc.

[young pecan]

IFTTT is pretty damn good, at least if they decide to cut their service bullshit out.

[solemn compass]

it will clear in a few years i think, they are really figuring the shit out right now i think

[ashen spindle]

I'm afraid it will only go the right way if we have some places make it mandatory, on their own companies wont do it

[shadow minnow]

Yeah. Also companies enabling some features just on wifi or 5G is dumb when literally LTE is faster for many people further away from 5G towers than 5G or even many WiFis

[reef tundra]

IEEE 802.15.4 and 6LoWPAN

[solemn compass]

right

[ashen spindle]

and as we see with right to repair, that is incredibly hard to get implemented with the insane ammount of lobbying against it

[young pecan]

Oh ikr.

[solemn compass]

yea

[young pecan]

Right to repair is actually getting some really damn hard pushback.

Just happy it’s finally getting some grip.

[solemn compass]

it did too with car manufacturers in the beginning, see where we are now. maybe that's more 'logical' to people, i dunno

[reef tundra]

Now you use that moment of grip to bite into it

[wheat plume]

the display brightness slider is now thicc and round

[solemn compass]

ooh

you can change the thiccnes and roundness too i think

[young pecan]

shrugs I should be able to repair my phone like my roommate can repair his car, y’know?

[solemn compass]

right

i mean

the garage should

[young pecan]

Or more specifically, people without my skillset should be able to swap a battery without needing to pay $300 for someone to unscrew 4 things and replace some adhesive that doesn’t even need to be there.

[solemn compass]

hmm, sure but that ship sailed when they needed to be waterproof i think

[reef tundra]

If you cant realise you dont have the competence to realise the risks and fuck it up more or injury and even death. Thats a you issue

[young pecan]

Yesn’t on the waterproof, iirc there’s a few ways to make it repair friendly.

Just not on insanely thin and flimsy phones.

[solemn compass]

there are phones that are trying it

[reef tundra]

You can put silicone everywhere and its water proof again

[ashen spindle]

imo in america the best way to convince people is to compare it with free speech
it's not about you needing to repair it yourself/saying everything you could
it's about someone can repair it/being able to say when you want it

[young pecan]

Just put the phone in a ziplock bag, 4head.

Waterproof.

[reef tundra]

Its being able to put an acog without begging the manufacter for it

The right to can, be a discrace, fuck it up

[young pecan]

Fuck it, just coat the phone in hydrophobic materials.

Doesn’t need to be waterproof if the water can’t touch it.

[solemn compass]

wow

million dollar idea over here

[young pecan]

Probably possible, but holy shit if it’s not a dumb idea.

Drive the price waaaaaay up.

[reef tundra]

And if you care specifically that it has to stay exactly the same you let the manufacturer repair it. dont care how. anyone can

[young pecan]

And the whole degradation over time, plus the other issues of scratching it off etc.

I suppose making the screen hydrophobic would be kinda dope. But not for shit like the charging port and whatnot.

[reef tundra]

They are already oleophobic

[solemn compass]

my screen protector is hydrophobic i think, or something like that anyway.water just glides off of it

[reef tundra]

Which has very similiar effect

[young pecan]

Oleophobic coatings wear off and they don’t work on some substances.

Hmm. Wonder if there’s something to be said for graphene here...

[reef tundra]

Somethings stick to teflon

dont use teflon if you use those things

if it wears off it would be nice if you could reapply a new coating quickly. Could make it a non-issue

[young pecan]

You can, just requires a kit.

That said just because something works is no reason to never improve upon it.

[wheat plume]

Its an odd world in the Apple ecosystem

Their laptops, tablets and their desktop computers all run on the same processors as one another

So they are roughly all equal in performance

[ashen spindle]

not really

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-gif-18932176

[ashen spindle]

different power envelopes, you're not running a tablet with the same power as a pc

[wheat plume]

well yeh

but if you check the performance of the mac mini, which is basically a SBC and some other components in a small chassis, then its real close

[misty saffron]

is that a bad thing?

[wheat plume]

Did I say or imply it was?

I just said it is strange

[ashen spindle]

but it's not really different from outside the apple ecosystem?

[reef tundra]

Power in = power consumable

[ashen spindle]

amd/intel use both the same uArch from 1 core to 16core chips in small devices/high end pcs

for the most part it just comes down to powerdraw

[reef tundra]

Often the same production line but something failed giving them the lower denotion

[misty saffron]

could've said "binning"

[ashen spindle]

meh not really, there is more than that going on

[reef tundra]

Disabling entire cores and that kind of thing

[misty saffron]

still has to be a big part of their strategy

[ashen spindle]

yeah it does play a big part but it's not the only one

[misty saffron]

genuinely smart choice to use more or less the same soc in all devices though

why would you engineer completely different chips if you can base everything off of one platform

[reef tundra]

That is was the entire industry is doing

[wheat plume]

Damn it, Jon!

[misty saffron]

putting similar socs in mobile and desktop devices?

*horribly similar socs

[reef tundra]

Intel Atom, but any x86 suck dick. x86 is what keeps the two from fully merging. Emulation is putting us closer

[misty saffron]

i wonder if more powerful imacs of theirs would still be as cheap

might actually consider buying an imac

[reef tundra]

Apple might intentionally underprice the imac. Higher sales can be used for marketing

Or the chip is much cheaper than usual

[misty saffron]

i mean, the current imac is quite underpriced compared to "normal" apple prices

[reef tundra]

The apple tax

[misty saffron]

it's quite appealing at the price but 8gb is what's keeping me from just buying one

[solemn compass]

i mean, an ipad pro is really powerful, almost too powerful i think. it just need macos, which would make the macbook less viable or reverse, imho

[misty saffron]

they won't bring macos to it

why would they kill their laptop lineup

[solemn compass]

yea

but you can't ever use the power of the ipad pro

[reef tundra]

or severely limit it somehow

[misty saffron]

ipad pro is already a laptop replacement for quite a lot of people

[misty saffron]

very not true

[reef tundra]

Render some project, done

[solemn compass]

are there any viable production apps on ipad?

[reef tundra]

Art and animation likes em

[misty saffron]

i'm expecting any new productivity apps to be built for ipad

since you can easily bring ipad apps to mac

win-win

[solemn compass]

but to really use those apps you need a keyboard, a 600 pounds keyboard...

i mean you can use any old BT keyboard, but yea

[misty saffron]

i don't regret buying the magic keyboard

[wheat plume]

Is it Magic™️?

[reef tundra]

No Apple

[misty saffron]

quite

[wheat plume]

how so?

[misty saffron]

keys don't break after half a year

[solemn compass]

lol

[wheat plume]

True, no butterfly switches anymore

[reef tundra]

No butterfly effect for you

[shadow minnow]

Cable management

[solemn compass]

sleeved?

[shadow minnow]

Yes, Corsair pack. Look lighter blue - better irl

[solemn compass]

cool, looks awesome

what is your pc's color scheme?

[shadow minnow]

Silver to light blue on black background. Most of light blue will come from RGB though, apart from that only cables and coolant (want to try ek mystic fog too though)

[solemn compass]

cool man! didn't know that mystic fog was a thing

[ashen spindle]

his color scheme is "404 gpu not found"

[solemn compass]

😂

[ashen spindle]

did you at least finally get a replacement mobo?

[shadow minnow]

But the cables are so long it will be really hard to cable manage and hide them

[shadow minnow]

Not yet

[solemn compass]

oof

[shadow minnow]

But, now I am only missing silicone inserts for tube bending

[reef tundra]

Zipties

[shadow minnow]

And well mobo replacement and monitor at customs

[ashen spindle]

*tweezers

[shadow minnow]

Even that won’t help much with how long they are, Will have to have some of them do like 5 loops behind the case

[solemn compass]

no gpu at all?

[shadow minnow]

iGPU for now

[solemn compass]

oof

new build or something? or completely new into pc's?

[reef tundra]

Maybe coiling the cable up?

[shadow minnow]

I mean, completely new into PCs but also planning this pc build for over two years

So completely new in a sense that this is my first pc build

[solemn compass]

ow damn, nice. good luck mate, looks good already

[shadow minnow]

Thanks

[solemn compass]

but the thing is if you planned it so long and you bought some components 2 years ago, they are already outdated quite quickly

[reef tundra]

Dragchains always look nice. But eh. they aint moving

[shadow minnow]

This is the pc from front atm

Don’t mind the unmanaged cables coming from top lol will manage these

Just will have to remove top fans before installing back mobo

[solemn compass]

ooh, water cooling

[shadow minnow]

Luckily didn’t buy nearly anything, only started with some components like case and ram year ago, and did not regret that since no better alternatives for better prices

[ashen spindle]

you need water for rocket lake

[shadow minnow]

Was air cooling for some time, or was supposed to be, till I get GPU, but since the mobo broke day one… really hope it didn’t destroy any other component, as it could ram, cpu and ssd

[reef tundra]

Milk

[solemn compass]

nice! yea, i have a brother-in-law which bought his monitor and motherboard like 2 years earlier, so he couldn't do anything with the mobo after he finished, needed a new one... monitor was also quite underpowered shall i say

[shadow minnow]

I mean, itwas not that hot with budget aircooler avx and iGPU enabled even during benchmarks

[ashen spindle]

yeah because you were limiting your chip as you had to run iGPU so they had to share power/thermal envelopes

[shadow minnow]

For me, I just planned what mobo to used when it comes out, same with GPU and CPU. And all of them came out, just did not expect the stock shortage so can’t get a GPU now

[solemn compass]

ah yea, it's a shame.

what cpu?

[shadow minnow]

I9 11900k, know it’s kinda dumb, would have gone for sth else but got it for really good price and also pcie gen 4

[solemn compass]

that's not too bad i think

you can keep it for quite some years atleast

[shadow minnow]

Just hope my mobo didn’t kill it while dying

Someone else apparently had similar issue, and it destroyed their ssd

[solemn compass]

oof

what happened?

[shadow minnow]

Aorus z590 master dying, no postcode, boot loop in dual bios mode, no apparent reason

[solemn compass]

hmm

it did work before that?

[shadow minnow]

Also at least at the end it was never in powering cpu, not sure about other components and ram RGB usually did light up though

[shadow minnow]

Yes

[solemn compass]

that's weird

could it be the psu?

[shadow minnow]

I tested like everything suggested to me in multiple discord’s, nothing helped

[solemn compass]

ah

[reef tundra]

Any sign of life?

[shadow minnow]

Don’t think, the mobo itself was pretty sure getting powered quite normally, and the PSU Is Corsair RMx.

[shadow minnow]

Everything looks fine until you try to boot it up. Even a flashing looks like doing something from LEDs, but then you try to boot it up, RGB turns on… and that’s where it ends. On dual bios mode you get a boot loop

[ashen spindle]

nah that's just gigabyte sadly having the worst software out of all vendors

[reef tundra]

Might be bios software related

[ashen spindle]

otherwise a great brand imo

[shadow minnow]

Did not find the bios that bad tbh at least on my mobo there weren’t any of the weird things, even though not being able to select some numbers by mouse was annoying ngl

[ashen spindle]

I did not say the UI is bad or did I?

you can have shit software and great UI

[reef tundra]

Polished shit is still shit

[crisp granite]

but it has a sheen to it, no?

[reef tundra]

It do be shiny

[shadow minnow]

Shiny shit is still shit

[shadow minnow]

Would not be possible with so many cables afaik

[pale sigil]

My 3080 price isn't looking so bad

[crisp granite]

fair enough

I'll stop mocking your £833 purchase

[pale sigil]

XD

[crisp granite]

btw

GTX 1660s are going for about $600 CAD here

and RTX 3070s are going for 2.5k at least

[timid chasm]

Oh is it flexing time? Do I get to flex on my 3090 prebuilt for $2200 or should I just not 😛

[pale sigil]

Nice reference card

MrFlex

[timid chasm]

who actually cares though if it's OEM

[crisp granite]

I'll flex for getting my GPU for (As of now) $140 CAD below MSRP

[ashen spindle]

reference cards doesn't matter since this gen really

before the coolers were shite but now both amd and nvidia have at least decent coolers

[timid chasm]

I mean that VRM temp blows but that's an easy fix

[crisp granite]

at this point, no one could give a shit what the card is

as long as it's whatever chipset you wanted

[ashen spindle]

as long as it gets the same results, that doesn't really matter though?

hell you might even get lucky and get better results with that than one that was originally designated for 102

[wheat plume]

oh :')

[solemn compass]

new headset?

[pale sigil]

It's because of steamers @wheat plume

[wheat plume]

hm?

[crimson wigeon]

steamed headphones

[reef tundra]

from space

[chrome estuary]

ugh i want a damn 3070 or 3080

[night axle]

I'm sad I just learned that I can't buy a wooting one anymore

[crisp granite]

uh

so what is the fucking point of B2 revisions?

ah

ok

I really don't

I need an efficient, capable cpu with good thermals and a fair price

if 5ghz is a part of that formula, cool

otherwise, nope

[ashen spindle]

it's literally irrelevant and they only commented on it bc of leaks

stepping can change quite often with no change for consumer

its not even a different sku

ofc no price change

[astral haven]

Wider at the same instruction latency will process threads faster thanks to ooe

[timid chasm]

What's the GA 101/102 differences? Mine says 102 with no strikeout

[proper crystal]

GA101 probably does not exist.

[timid chasm]

I assume you want one of the 59's?

Yeah they're about the only ones I don't see popup. I see 5600 and 5800 semi-regularly

[ashen spindle]

it would be 102 or 104, if it's crossed out it just means it was planned for the first iteration of 3080ti/3070ti and that got changed

[timid chasm]

Oh gotcha.

[zenith sonnet]

I recently even saw 5950X's on sale here in Germany

I think the Ryzen supply is pretty stable now

Yeh...

They good now

[astral haven]

Not in the us lol

[reef tundra]

Not with that attitude

[warped dove]

Are there any stats out there of what the most popular mechanical switch types are in various regions?

I ask because I find it utterly amazing that there are companies like logitech and razer that're shipping keyboards with exclusively, or region-exclusively, only-click switches

Doesn't every kid aspire to be a streamer these days? Why would they want loud switches? Are their primary markets really boomers who need audible feedback like a typewriter?

[reef tundra]

Publicly available probably not. But there might be someone collecting that data and selling it

[warped dove]

I'm sure you're correct regarding the latter, and for the former I myself couldn't even find a reddit poll or nothing.

Well like, I did but 100 submissions in a pre-filtered sample is not very representative of what-sells.

[reef tundra]

Companies wont release any sales record, so either you steal those or do a lot of work figuring that out. Facebook or something might be selling it :)

[warped dove]

Amazon probably has ideas too. Data is their business.

I have a feeling that, ironically, clicky switch users might be the ones who shout the loudest about the value of their mech-keys.

[ashen spindle]

feel like this is always available when I open amd.com

[reef tundra]

I know people who had to go with linears because the clicky was too loud and made team communication harder. But annacdotal evidence

[ashen spindle]

huh

because I'm surprised amd doesnt just have one stock location

[warped dove]

I cannot imagine a white-collar open-plan office tolerating a cherry MX blue keyboard. Maybe if you had your own private room...

It would simply be super rude honestly

[reef tundra]

You probably have to buy and bring your own. Membrane types afterall

[warped dove]

I used to bring this one membrane gaming keyboard to work, Mars Hades. Legit great typing experience. Was good a gaming keyboard too, and the legends never wore down. Not backlit though.

[shadow minnow]

Apparently even the AiB MSRP is going into crazy numbers

[chrome estuary]

Aib?

[ashen spindle]

Add-in-Board

asus, evga, msi etc.

[warped dove]

They're currently selling for triple MSRP

and the chain can't break because if any price changes too quickly someone will lose a lot of money

Good thing Elon had supposed a tantrum about bitcoin climate change, it seemed like he was planning to hoard bitcoin and try to become a new world order (cryto is the only hope is de-throneing old-money banks) but no one should be usingcostly proof of work crypto anyway >_> It should all be proof of stake otherwise we're just gonna be in a computational arms race and eventually the whole world economy will be mining

[ashen spindle]

well, with the LHR versions coming end of the month, that would make a price reset easier

[chrome estuary]

I wish. They'll be bought out by bots and scalped for ridiculous prices.

Probably not as bad as current cards

But I wouldn't be surprised if 3080s are still 1200$

[warped dove]

nvidia are already selling GPUs at huge prices to mining farms... if LHR isn't bypassed in 2 months it'll still be very interesting that nvidia pretends to care about consumers

[ashen spindle]

well consumer scalping doesn't really have an effect on the retail chain

[zenith sonnet]

How much did he invest in BTC?

[chrome estuary]

Also did you mean suppressed @warped dove

[warped dove]

no i just put an a on the wrong side of the word supposed

[chrome estuary]

Ah alright

[reef tundra]

Plan:
Hoard all money
no one can use money
No one uses it as currency
Your number is obsolete by other number.
???
profit

[reef tundra]

Or you could not.

[zenith sonnet]

Hey, miner's might be able to get cheaper GPUs soon

Also, I just checked and GB still does not seem to have a stable 1.2.0.2. Or even viable beta

[young pecan]

Ayyyyy!

Upgraded from 6700k to 3900X. :D

[reef tundra]

the weed number

[zenith sonnet]

[young pecan]

It’s felt absolutely stifling, all this time.

Always kept running into my performance just up and dying due to lack of cores. NO MORE! >:D

[vapid zodiac]

3900x gang

[young pecan]

Pog

[vapid zodiac]

went from 6600k so even more of a jump

pro tip, dont try to do vr or renders on 4c... doesnt work

[zenith sonnet]

I wonder how long it takes for you to start noticing the ST limitations

[young pecan]

shrugs Everything including heavily single threaded applications run either exactly the same speed or a little faster.

Win across the board for the 3900x, but that’s not a surprise of any kind.

[zenith sonnet]

I went from Zen 2 to Zen 3, and I'd still bescribe that as a massive upgrade

[vapid zodiac]

single thread runs faster both due to ipc improvements and also offloading shit onto other cores

[zenith sonnet]

Granted, not as large at Haswell-E to Zen 2...

Also security patches

[young pecan]

And now my PC is also running inside a Meshify C. Very pleased with it.

After my overkill performance phase I kinda just went with something far easier.

Easy, better airflow, smaller, not as painful to work with, etc.

[zenith sonnet]

I'm happy with my O11D XL

[vapid zodiac]

thermaltake core p3, because sides are overrated

or maybe p5... i forget

think its p5

[young pecan]

I kinda wanna just go straight for test bench setups, tbh.

[zenith sonnet]

To bad the EK front distro plate came half a year later :(

[vapid zodiac]

i could mount my case on a vesa mount... which is kinda amusing to think about

[young pecan]

You gotta do it.

[vapid zodiac]

i want to but moving in a month

[young pecan]

I need to upgrade my RAM. :L
Poor little 3000Mhz DIMMs trying to keep up with the 3900x.

[vapid zodiac]

yeah i grabbed 3600mhz 32gb cl16... with rgb

[young pecan]

I’m kinda eyeballing going 64g and actually running something insane with it.

Just having Proxmox as the desktop usecase, I find shit like that hilarious.

Such a bad idea, but I am tempted nonetheless.

One of the better airflow cases regardless.

Iirc it’s still top 10.

[flint kayak]

oop

is there a way to bind contoller buttons to a mouse?

[young pecan]

A couple of programs can do it, how technically inclined are you?

[flint kayak]

im okay

not great

bc i wanna play rainbow 6 siege but it doesn't like me having both a keyboard and contoller in play

yeah

[young pecan]

I know reWASD can do controller macroing, and I know that LuaMacros can absolutely do what you want, but you'd need to to know how to use it.

Even LuaMacros? That app is remarkably simple, I think it'd probably work in R6.

[flint kayak]

ik if you use contoller on r6 u get half the recoil

i might get banned lol

[reef tundra]

Their anti-cheat is poopy

[flint kayak]

mmmm

but idk if i want my account banned

[young pecan]

Remember that time a youtuber went around trying to get banned from R6 and even using shit like CheatEngine in pubs/ranked didn't work.

He ended up having to DM the support line with proof of hacks and had to ask to be banned.

[reef tundra]

He got banned by begging to support

6 months

[young pecan]

That was after trying to DM them on twitter 7 times.

[reef tundra]

Using blatent hacking

Speed, aim, wall, anything

[young pecan]

I mean...

He's not a small youtuber.

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/WnfmzgjpCXo

[flint kayak]

yh ik but thats why im scared i will be one that will be blindly taken out even when there is plenty of wh ppl

[zenith sonnet]

They might have let him do his thing in order to bait actual cheaters into being less careful? I don't know

[young pecan]

Y'know what?

Knowing Ubisoft I doubt that.

[flint kayak]

if there is any chance of being banned im not taking it

[reef tundra]

Dont run it