🔌│tech

[misty saffron]

pick one

[halcyon moss]

dont do drugs son

[crimson wigeon]

All, mix them

[reef patrol]

Naw.

[misty saffron]

the threads on this card are garbage

but hey, at least no extra screws

thank fuck it works

5 degrees over ambient idle

what the fuck i forgot it can be that cold

help with fan curve on gpu

pretty sure this default one is bad

[hard thicket]

set it to a rpm which is not too obnoxious

up to 50-60ish degreed

then increase it step by step by 15% ish

if the software you are using has a spin up time and spin down time that helps a lot with unwanted fan ramp ups

[misty saffron]

nah its super basic

can't hear the fan at 60% speed, nice

[hard thicket]

msi afterburner has that

[misty saffron]

msi afterburner can't save curve to its memory

[hard thicket]

nah but you let it start with windows anyway

[misty saffron]

fuck that

[hard thicket]

i mean, its minimized

does't pop up or anything

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[misty saffron]

i'd rather not use any of the horrible software manufacturers make

tbh

[hard thicket]

afterburner is horrible ?

that's new honestly

been using it for literally a decade

[ashen spindle]

doesnt load it into memory but that also means on startup it won't start with something that will crash and not even give you bios output

[zenith sonnet]

Afterburner is best in class

[hard thicket]

it's commonly known as being the go to software for fancurve and tuning and stuff

[shadow minnow]

FeelsBadMan so after finally getting pc It looks like i will have to rma mobo and not have any pc for at least 30 days 😦

[shadow minnow]

Also looks like it may be some cap failure caused bios chips to burn out. But ima try two more things

[ashen spindle]

try not to imitate what cal does next time no need to break his records

[shadow minnow]

Sorry,

[patent glacier]

MrPleasant_exe is my master OwO

[shadow minnow]

t won’t happen again, was not on purpose

[pale sigil]

Hell

No

[misty saffron]

*main

https://github.com/github/renaming

[crimson wigeon]

Ah can't wait until I earn my main's degree

[misty saffron]

what is the process of mixing and editing audio called

maining

[crimson wigeon]

Oh no the gold main has been lost

[pale sigil]

Wot

[shadow minnow]

What no?

[shadow minnow]

Yeah the mobo is just broken

Cpu is not even getting powered after turning it on

And it does not even care if there is a cpu

It just does not work

[ashen spindle]

couldn't that also mean dead cpu

[shadow minnow]

No since postcode is not showing anything even without cpu there

Or at all

Postcode has codes for stuff with cpu

So most likely not

No, didn’t get it to work sadly

[ashen spindle]

oc'd his ram and that started breaking shit

[shadow minnow]

Now I gotta wait for replacement

[shadow minnow]

My second bios was literally on default settings

And all voltages were default

[ashen spindle]

yes but that's still how it started

[shadow minnow]

It worked for some time, but how would I break the second bios?

There is some chance of bios chips being burned out from what I found out

And also at the end, pins that I believed to be gnd and 3v have no resistance, but I may be wrong, since the bios mcus datasheet does not contain this kinda package. But the pins would make sense, and also traces on pcb.

[misty saffron]

can somebody tell me where is the open in google chrome

[ashen spindle]

open chrome as in open default browser perhaps

[misty saffron]

might as well be all other apps then

[ashen spindle]

I always like it when I type another letter and the app I wanted suddenly goes away for something with less matches

[wheat plume]

That reminds me of that Linux distro that opens the browser in fullsreen upon login

[astral haven]

highly recommend using powertoys search

for windows

[wheat plume]

the app launcher?

I love that

reminds me of a less OP version of Plasma Krunner

[misty saffron]

guess i should’ve used gloves while working with that gpu

[ashen spindle]

better go and replace the finger

[pale sigil]

guys help

my cpu is on fire

https://mrpl.me/Ka4099b_rfZ8.png

(it says i9 11900k)

[reef patrol]

[hard thicket]

i see you never worked on a custom loop

mansen probably knows it, all the scratches from the fittings

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yep-yup-gif-5118213

[shadow minnow]

It actually was not so hot even with budget aircooler during benchmarks, and also single core CB20 scores. Issue is that thanks to my mobo, it’s now ambient

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrgdSmZUBkg

Buildzoid's new favorite motherboard
"gigabyte dual bios sucks"

https://twitter.com/scottwasson/status/1384988463443886082 huh

Scott Wasson (@scottwasson)

Hey, folks. I'm a bit late updating my status about this one, but I am pleased to note that I joined Intel in the discrete graphics team back in December, and I will be part of the team helping to bring Intel's first discrete GPUs aimed at gaming to the market.

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Twitter · Apr 21, 2021, 9:52 PM

[pale sigil]

So it doesn't pay to spend a bizare amount on motherboards

@shadow minnow you gonna return it?

[shadow minnow]

Yeah, hope I will get a replacement soon

[pale sigil]

Good

No worse feeling than shit breaking down

[shadow minnow]

True

[pale sigil]

I should return mine but I judt can't be assed

3 times it's bricked itself

[ashen spindle]

that's not the conclusion, if you need more features you need more, just that even top boards can have issues

[pale sigil]

Nah

It's judt gigabyte

Fuck gigabyte

Never had a board that wasn't shit from them

Same with friends and family

[shadow minnow]

Especially when It broke first day of me having a pc, and also this week when I have more free time

[ashen spindle]

then give another brands that as 12 usb ports on the back on b550 for <200€

dont even think there are others <400

[shadow minnow]

Apart from this that will not happen to everyone, only other problem I had is that led calibration is terrible

[pale sigil]

I hate Intel boards

I hate Intel

[shadow minnow]

Like, if this was budget mobo, but pink instead of white on 400€ mobo

Also only 2 zones and yet not matched

[pale sigil]

It's crazy how expensive Intel is motherboard wise

[ashen spindle]

like look at this rear IO

[shadow minnow]

Well, x570 is not much cheaper.
Also kinda sucks the OC warranty was canceled, would have bought it just to be sure.

[pale sigil]

Not much cheaper?

Lol

[ashen spindle]

yeah because on AMD you can go b550

[pale sigil]

How much was your mobo again

[ashen spindle]

on intel that locks you out of OC

[pale sigil]

XD

Even budget boards seem to offer a lot more amd side which surprised me a lot when j was on Intel

[ashen spindle]

because up until now even RAM OC was locked to Z series on intel to driver higher sales

so no point in doing solid budget boards there

[pale sigil]

Man, I felt so cheated when I discovered the oc side of Intel

My first proper cpu with my own money etc coming off amd

And I made the mistake of not paying a premium to oc

Also the motherboard capping memory speeds

[shadow minnow]

Well, this mobo has cap over 5000 MHz, got 4266 perfectly stable (xmp profile), will try more when I get replacement

[pale sigil]

Was years ago

But still

When I got a I5 6600k

[wheat plume]

The new vanced icon is gosh dang hideous

I relate

[cursive summit]

I think that looks sick

[zenith sonnet]

Lets hope this is just the start of it
https://www.techpowerup.com/281471/bitmain-releases-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-with-performance-of-32-rtx-3080-cards

[cursive summit]

So, a fine question is

"What a weird concept, making machines that print money, and then selling them"

If it does just print money, why are they being sold

Plus yeah isn't ETH moving on a different model?

So this would basically be just a really expensive and not that useful purchase

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/the-first-mass-produced-ddr5-memory-has-succesfully-completed-its-testing-phase

good looks like no issues that could cause trouble for alder laker or other launches

[shadow minnow]

Bad, I want my relatively high speed memory to stay relevant at least for few more months

[ashen spindle]

I mean, alder lake using ddr5 is 2 year old info

[shadow minnow]

I know

But rocket lake delayed to 2021 any GPU shortage isn’t

[ashen spindle]

debatable

we knew mid 2019 that rocket lake was coming 2021

[wheat plume]

When you use anime waifus to point to things.... :')

[pale sigil]

had to put the value of my psu for evga to 0

cos its literally a broken item

[wheat plume]

oh..

[reef patrol]

I mean... yes

[ashen spindle]

well, could add some material value for the raw metal value 😛

[pale sigil]

I HATE PRINTERS I HATE PRINTERS I HATE PRINTERS I HATE PRINTERS I HATE PRINTERS I HATE PRINTERS

[wheat plume]

printers suck

expensive ink

runs out of ink before the actual canister is totally empty

[ashen spindle]

use third party ink cartridges and that problem is gone

but yes the software on them is horrible

[wheat plume]

There are some printers that literally wont let you

not sure if my one does but I hope not

[ashen spindle]

well then you're complaining about a certain model not all 😛

not like all phones run iOS just because iphones do

[reef patrol]

More likely manufacturers still trying to skirt the very firm EU based "You aren't allowed to block third party cartridges" laws 😄

[ashen spindle]

or that yeah

personally I use the hp smart ink thing because it means I have free ink since I never need to print more than the 0€ subscription model has per month lmao

think I bought it for 60 bucks two years ago now

software is shit and had to yell at windows couple times bc it wouldnt work

but at least I haven't had to pay anything for ink since then

[timid chasm]

Seems like every time we needed to print something important we never had ink or something had went wrong with the ink cartridge

I fucking hate the small ink cartridges. Big toner tanks all the way so I can forget to buy ink longer

[reef patrol]

True story.

[timid chasm]

lol we're the reverse

[wheat plume]

he also made one that says "its cheaper" to buy a new printer than to buy just the ink

[reef patrol]

I mean... buy a shitty, cheap inkjet printer and... yes

[timid chasm]

^ Hefty multifunction printers ftw

Bought a big boi a year ago and I'll never go back

[reef patrol]

I just have the cheapest laserjet B&W printer from Brother from... 7 years back?

Cheap powder cartridge every two years or so.

Printer manufacturers being include...

... including half filled (non-XL) ink cartridges that have been tested at factory for even less contents.
... selling printers at a loss and hiking ink prices.
... attempting to DRM cartridges to prevent third party competition (EU ruled on that, but HP and a few others are still trying to skirt this)
... refusing to print even though there's plenty of ink left.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/CqB95rj_txI

I love this guy

[ashen spindle]

I was going to be mad at HP bc they planned to remove the free printer tier on the instantink model, but they kept it after people complained, so for now I'll go on with my free printing

[wheat plume]

wat

[ashen spindle]

?

[shadow minnow]

Idk about all the memes complaining about about i9 11900k power consumption. I have it 3 days, and last 24 hours the temp didn’t go over 21*c single time

And I am using budget aircooler

[reef patrol]

I mean.. it's also on your table 😛

Not in the Motherboard.

[shadow minnow]

It was in motherboard until few minutes ago

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-18226933

[shadow minnow]

Getting mobo ready for return atm

[ashen spindle]

also powerdraw != temperature

[reef patrol]

Naw. It's a case of a non-running PC 😄

[ashen spindle]

well now sure 😛

but it was running before

[shadow minnow]

But even running it was bit cooler than I expected 😄

[ashen spindle]

just on iGPU

[shadow minnow]

I mean even cpu benchmarks

[ashen spindle]

those still need to be run through the iGPU to be displayed xD

[shadow minnow]

Sure, but it did not limit cpu to go on 100% load and score over 640 in cb20 single core

[ashen spindle]

if it did not go over 21C then something is broken there

you are not doing cinebench at 21c on air

[shadow minnow]

It went over 21c, just was not last 24 hours

But I mean, it was cooler than I expected

Which does not mean 21c

[ashen spindle]

ok so it's idle temps, those don't mean much

[shadow minnow]

I mean, again, last 24 hours my pc was not running so 21c.
But before when I ran cb20 it still was not “that” hot

How many days till I get mobo replacement ;-;

Wish my issue was installing 32 bit windows instead

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah what even was going on with that

if you couldnt install stuff maybe other things were broken already

[shadow minnow]

Most of the download links did not work unless it was sth like auto download in 5 seconds, or straight up clicking on file I wanna download

But that looked like OS issue

Also when there were links that said, “if download did not begin automatically click here, clicking there worked”

[ashen spindle]

...

so you didnt download them

[shadow minnow]

Not that I would instal more than steam and few benchmarks

[ashen spindle]

you said as if you couldnt install something you downloaded

that has nothing to do with the OS you just didn't download it then

[shadow minnow]

The thing is, that one website, I think it was Aida 64 or sth, not sure, had link, that after I clicked on, it did not start downloading, and there also was not any place to click if download did not begin automatically

[shadow minnow]

But also, why does Google engine allow these adds that want to bait you to download sth else, by having big download button.

[ashen spindle]

... because why would I want google to allow/not allow stuff?

so all that happens was you did not download the things

[shadow minnow]

Because there will be quite a lot of people thinking they should click there clicking there

[ashen spindle]

ok and do you want google to hire million people so they figure out what button is ok and what not

that's why adblockers exist

[shadow minnow]

No, I want Google to just not accept every ad like this, I think they have some policies, you can’t just put anything, especially illegal into the ads, so it’s already being controlled, although maybe just by algorithm (which would be easy to make to detect ads like this)

[ashen spindle]

what you mean accept lol, it's on the website not on google isn't it?

and stop tagging me every time 😆 nobody else is in this discussion atm

[reef patrol]

Whaddya mean?

[ashen spindle]

[reef patrol]

[shadow minnow]

I mean ads that are, or at least looked like were through Google AdSense

[shadow minnow]

The tagging is automatic, I just use reply function, and it automatically tags you unless I turn it off which I have to every time, so usually I forgot, sorry.

[ashen spindle]

so just dont use the reply function when there is literally nothing inbetween the messages you reply to xD

and what if I want to make an ad for my download, am I not allowed to use a download button then?

not like google makes the ad placement on the site

[shadow minnow]

No, but you should not be allowed to make ad that is white/transparent background with one button saying download, with it even not being clear that it’s the ad, since background is same color as website. Literally only way to find out is clicking close button, where ads are reportable.

[ashen spindle]

ok so dont accept that one variant and 5 others will be found and someone will complain bc there is a valid use case

gl

just use adblocker

[reef patrol]

Look on the bright side, Bexin. You may not be a watercooling master, but at least you're not "running a custom loop with just water" bad 😄

[shadow minnow]

POV: you are me rn ;-;

[reef patrol]

But Bexin...you are not a PC case.

[wheat plume]

I'm an empty case
Nothing left inside

[shadow minnow]

Lol I was editing the message and forgot to delete one part nvm

Also, the pc produced so much electrical noise, literally louder than fans at low rpm

[ashen spindle]

I was gonna say sounds like coilwhine

but you dont have a gpu

so wtf is making electrical noise there

[shadow minnow]

No idea. Like, I suspect that maybe one thing was making weird noise, even though no fans were connected.
There is no mention of vrm fan anywhere, however, there is one 4pin pwm connector coming out of vrm, that is connected to. What looks like, and is supposed to be 4 pin fan header. But it was too short to disconnect, may have been vrm fan or idk. It only went on after turning on mobo, although not sure if psu did not have but if noise too.
But also this mobo having 10 hybrid 4 pin (although only 9 free) fan connectors that also support voltage control, and some pump is pretty nice.
Although it looked like some rpm readings were off
And also smart fan 6 shown higher number of fans than connected, may have been vrm fan though.

But also, does mobo have any way to read rpm of PSU fan?

[pale sigil]

No

[reef patrol]

Only if the PSU has a USB connection to it.

And some do.

[pale sigil]

Ya case already looks dirty

This is why j hate black cases

[shadow minnow]

Mobo and cpu prices in store where I ordered already went up. was lower than everywhere else, now it’s still lower, but 20€ for both components each

[shadow minnow]

This sadly does not. Wanted to go for Corsair rm1000i but rmi series for some reason discontinued even though it’s pretty new and has no direct replacement ;-;

[pale sigil]

I dread my GPU dying

Cos I ain't gonna get a replacement

XD

[shadow minnow]

Why?

[pale sigil]

Not in this eco

Cos they don't exist

[shadow minnow]

[pale sigil]

Took evga two weeks to find me a psu

XD

[crisp granite]

warranty

[pale sigil]

Doge I'm on ahout thst

[shadow minnow]

I couldn’t even get PSU I wanted

[young pecan]

Doge...

The global production of GPUs is basically nothing.

[pale sigil]

They won't give you a replacement right away

[young pecan]

The global production of GPUs is basically nothing.

A few thousand a day.

[pale sigil]

Rmaing GPUs atm is a nightmare

[reef patrol]

Yup. You'd just get an immediate refund and a "thank you, goodbye"

[crisp granite]

wut

[young pecan]

There just aren’t any GPUs left.

Won’t be for a fucking year.

[reef patrol]

1. No stock of GPUs.
2. They'd much rather sell you one at new MSRP than have to grab one at the original sales price.

[pale sigil]

Remember reading on the forums

People got abused GPUs

[young pecan]

There are literally no GPUs anywhere anymore.

[pale sigil]

But they kept it

Because its near impossible to RMA

[crisp granite]

rather scummy, no?

[young pecan]

What’s the other option?

[reef patrol]

Yes. But legal 😄

[young pecan]

There’s no stock anywhere.

[crisp granite]

well then

I'm gonna have a royally shit time if this RTX 3070 dies

[young pecan]

If you wanna hate anyone you can hate the jackasses running everything for making all the fabs like they did.

[pale sigil]

3070 isn't as bad

As the 3080 at least

But still bad

XD

[young pecan]

What 3080?

[timid chasm]

Did you decide to sell me your 3080 yet Pleasant?

[young pecan]

I own 2 3070s and I haven’t even seen a 3080 in stock in any stores anywhere in 4 months.

[pale sigil]

msi rtx 3080 gaming x trio

[young pecan]

Been looking almost every day.

[timid chasm]

ditto

except -almost*

[pale sigil]

I don't use the damn thing

[timid chasm]

so selly

[young pecan]

shrugs We get 20 cards a day on average in Aus. Across the entire country.

[timid chasm]

to yours truly

[young pecan]

Cards don’t exist.

[pale sigil]

You're in America lad

[timid chasm]

Fact

[pale sigil]

Can't selly

[timid chasm]

por que

[crisp granite]

ooof

[young pecan]

Shipping it would cost less than buying a new one.

Even with express air cargo.

[pale sigil]

Yes but I can't be assed

[young pecan]

Depression.

[crisp granite]

then give it to Ty

[timid chasm]

I'll send you a 1080 in return so you can have something game capable for when you're in a pinch

[crisp granite]

she could use an upgrade

[young pecan]

I’d buy the 3080 off you if I had the cash.

But hey, still poor.

[crisp granite]

if I had the scratch, I'd send you my RTX 3070 plus some cash in exchange for your 3080

[umbral knot]

I would give you all $0.83 in my bank account

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil Send me the 3080

[crisp granite]

quit flexing your wealth, oogly

[young pecan]

I’ll give you $78 worth of Etherium for the 3080? :P

[crisp granite]

you're making me feel bad

[ashen spindle]

more like 20$ worth after transaction fee

[young pecan]

Not if I go to Coinspot and swap it for an altcoin. :D

Then I’d have $25.

[ashen spindle]

insane gains

[young pecan]

Bezos better be scared, I’m on the hunt.

[ashen spindle]

that's why he retired, he's already hiding

[young pecan]

Watch me do some mad swapping, get a Falcon Heavy from Elon Musk after I trade up 677 times.

Fly that bitch over to Bezos and throw $40 at him.

The flex.

Really though, I’m holding the eth atm.

Hoping EIP1559 does nice things to me.

[umbral knot]

when you make a $4.99 purchase and pay with a $5 bill but say keep the change

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[shadow minnow]

Even better with prices like 19.99€

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-fucking-not-gif-4496112

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

ill swap you my 5700xt ? 😛

wait, 3080... ill probably need to update my psu. hm

[umbral knot]

I'll swap you my GeForce 4 ti 4800

[shadow minnow]

I will swap my dGPU for 3080

[crisp granite]

cal, my 3070 plus a bottle of maple syrup, made by myself, for your 3080?

[pale sigil]

Bexin

You mean IGPU

[shadow minnow]

I mean dGPU

That I don’t have

But maybe I do

[young pecan]

I’ll swap you a GT 7900 for the GTX 3080. Mine has a higher number, it’s better.

[pale sigil]

You don't have a dgpu

[shadow minnow]

I may find some PCI dGPU, I think I have one

[pale sigil]

You have Intel HD lol

Which integrated

Well

You don't now

[shadow minnow]

I know, just not sure if it’s PCI or sth older or newer

But I have it so I can swap

[young pecan]

@shadow minnow Should refund everything and just go with Ryzen APU and a decent MSI board.

[pale sigil]

Yes

Asus

Not msi

Fuck msi

Ish

[young pecan]

X570 board, 3400 APU.

Upgrade later.

Intel is so bad, really.

[pale sigil]

I'm a asus fanboy now

[shadow minnow]

It’s from a pc now covered in dust my father built like 20 years ago or so

[young pecan]

Poor Intel.

They keep flailing and it’s not working.

[shadow minnow]

From what I have heard 50 series amd APUs not available for customers yet ;-;

[pale sigil]

Why bother

[young pecan]

Doesn’t matter.

[pale sigil]

Getting an apu

Just get a cheap second hand GPU

[young pecan]

Go 3000 APU on an X570 board.

[shadow minnow]

But also my gen 4 ssd worked fine with 11900k, no issues like some reported, 7000mbps read and write

[pale sigil]

Till you get your new one

[crisp granite]

cal, what would you say to my trade?

[pale sigil]

I have a gtx 750 if you want it

[crisp granite]

yea or nay?

[pale sigil]

And no

[young pecan]

That’d work, Cal.

@shadow minnow Literally do Ryzen with Cal’s GTX 750.

[pale sigil]

Literally just buy a video card

That outputs

Or use an old card

[shadow minnow]

That would be pretty likely single core downgrade, friend scored lower ST on clocked 5950x

[young pecan]

And?

[pale sigil]

Don't get an apu

Just get a proper 5800x or 5950x

[shadow minnow]

Send PepeLaugh /s Need to know the Tflops compared to intel uhd 750

[young pecan]

Dude, just go with Ryzen, actually.

[shadow minnow]

I think I scored like 600-900 on the iGPU in time spy, don’t remember

[young pecan]

There’s so little point touching Intel atm.

[shadow minnow]

But also I would be better of selling this cpu than returning it

[halcyon moss]

yes tehre is, availability

[crisp granite]

unless you need it for a mining board

[pale sigil]

Tbf

Idk about anywhere else

[crisp granite]

I've never seen a proper AMD mining board

[young pecan]

Both AMD and Intel mining boards, Doge.

There’s I think one AMD one.

[pale sigil]

But the UK you can easily just buy a 5600x - 5950x

[shadow minnow]

Since current availability + me getting it underpriced at 500€

[young pecan]

shrugs Try and flip then go for Ryzen.

Have a mate in Australia send you a CPU.

They’re in plenty of stock rn.

Umart has them, ComputerAlliance and DComp both have them.

Pccg sometimes does. Heaps on gumtree.

They’re actually everywhere.

[shadow minnow]

Idk. Also, what is usual st score of 5800x in cinebench r20? Just wondering

[young pecan]

Doesn’t matter, dude.

At that level the difference is a few frames here and there.

[young pecan]

The benefit comes from more cores and faster memory etc.

[shadow minnow]

I know, just asking

[pale sigil]

I mean

[young pecan]

Never mind backward and forward compatibility. That alone makes Intel a joke of a choice.

[shadow minnow]

Lol I scored higher then all of the CPUs on the chart

[pale sigil]

It does matter

Ol

You will do bexin

You got a I9

Lol

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[shadow minnow]

I know, but aircooled with cm 212

[young pecan]

And what do you even need single core for?

Minecraft?

[shadow minnow]

Well, most of games

[shadow minnow]

Even that tbh

[young pecan]

Most games use up to 4.

Most new games can use up to 12.

[umbral knot]

most games require at least one tho

[young pecan]

Most games also do it badly.

[shadow minnow]

Especially mc

[young pecan]

Pfff.

[pale sigil]

I don't disagree with bexin

But it's more

[young pecan]

Dude, just overclock the Ryzen CPU. My personal dedicated server is a 3950X and it has never had any problem with MC.

[pale sigil]

Calm down aeon

Thing we have to consider is price for performance

Afaik he got it at a really impressive price

[young pecan]

Then again I apparently got the golden chip as well.

Well yeah, but that’d let him flip it, no?

[pale sigil]

Why bother

Judt grt a more reasonable mobo

[young pecan]

And if he needs single core perf that can be had with just about any halfway good CPU. Better upgrade path.

[shadow minnow]

I hope I got some good silicone too, will have to test. And definitely will test sooner then even considering flipping for a second

[shadow minnow]

Amd is afaik also going new socket next gen so still not good upgrade path tbh

[young pecan]

Sure, but the path is pretty good until PCI-E gen 6.

[pale sigil]

Huh

No

Amd is a no brainer

I'm talking more from your price atm

You'd be a bit silly to go Intel

[young pecan]

^

[pale sigil]

Also

You'd have to get a new mobo every gen of Intel

[shadow minnow]

All I know so far is that ram can run at advertised speeds, did not have chance to OC yet, but it ram at advertised 4266 xmp which is already pretty nice

[young pecan]

Doesn’t mean much on Rocket Lake.

[pale sigil]

Amd already confirmed

[young pecan]

Gains aren’t as high as Ryzen tends to get.

[shadow minnow]

Every two gens usually. The thing is that this time I would have to go new mobo even with amd I think, not sure though

[pale sigil]

That next gen will work with current b550 and 570

Every 2 gens wot

No

You need a new motherboard every single gen with Intel

[young pecan]

^

[shadow minnow]

Not every

[young pecan]

Every gen for the last forever.

Yes, every.

[pale sigil]

Literally every

[shadow minnow]

You can run 10th and 11th gen on two mobo gens

[young pecan]

The only time it hasn’t been like that was Z170 with the mods.

[shadow minnow]

Also z370 and z390

[pale sigil]

Cos they sre the same

XD

[shadow minnow]

They are nearly the same but it’s still two gens

[young pecan]

Z370 and Z390 are literally the same series.

The fuck are you on?

[pale sigil]

Are you sure bexin

I don't remember them allowing more than 1 gen

[young pecan]

The 3 in 370 and 390 signifies the generation.

[shadow minnow]

Z490 and z590 are not the same, chipset is bit different with different support for ports. Even if it was same, just saying it’s two gens

[pale sigil]

They are

Z is for over clocking

Oh wait nvm

Missread

[young pecan]

490 and 590 are different generations of board, yes.

First number in the title.

[ashen spindle]

if you dont use z590 for rocket lake you literally can not use anything the chip is meant to so, so while you can use it, there is 0 point over getting 10th gen on z490

so from a practical standpoint it's basically a new board generation

[young pecan]

^

[shadow minnow]

Although these are more similar than z370 and z390

[shadow minnow]

Afaik some z490 mobos support gen 4

[ashen spindle]

no?

[young pecan]

AMD, on the other hand, allows for complete cross compatibility. The only time they haven’t is when the switch from PCI-E 3 to 4.

Even then they allowed as much as was technically doable.

[pale sigil]

You could actually still use it

[young pecan]

Running 4.0 boards in gen 3 compatible mode.

Hell, they’ve gone as far as to actually make BIOS versions for old boards to support newer CPUs that aren’t even on the same PCI-E generation.

[shadow minnow]

While intel changes socket from 1151 just to 1200...

[young pecan]

Basically yes.

[shadow minnow]

It may have been needed, but I think there still are plenty of unused pins on 11900k

[young pecan]

Intel is a stupid choice rn unless you’re pushing peak performance for single thread or didn’t do your research.

Or if you need AVX512.

[ashen spindle]

but then you might as well go hedt for avx512

[young pecan]

Exactly.

So why was Intel for the last 3 years a good idea again...?

[ashen spindle]

on a budget however, intel can make more sense again

[young pecan]

Ok ok fine. Budget solutions it can win there.

[ashen spindle]

with 10850k pricing going quite low etc.

[young pecan]

Or if you’re trying to do stupid overclocking. 2600 still just eats voltage while giving zero fucks.

Iirc that has recently been pushed to 1.7 volts stable somehow.

[pale sigil]

11600k is cheap also

[ashen spindle]

ehhh

[shadow minnow]

Also 10600k got pretty low on price afaik

[ashen spindle]

somewhat, but then you're closer to amd again bc you need a more expensive board etc.

but depending on local pricing and availability can be an option sure

[young pecan]

And if you’re spending on a board you may as well go AMD anyway because the upgrade path is cheaper and better in the long run.

Unless Intel pulls their heads out of their collective asses, but who’s really betting on it?

[ashen spindle]

11600k here is only like 30$ below a 5600x, not a deal I would take

[shadow minnow]

Chance of 12 gen intel supporting same boards as 10 and 11 is lower than of getting a GPU rn

[young pecan]

Just go second hand?

[ashen spindle]

no shit

alder lake has ddr5/pcie5

[shadow minnow]

This time it apparently may have some actual reason since there is real pin increase

[shadow minnow]

And also that

[ashen spindle]

yes its lga1700

[young pecan]

Why tf are they using PCI-E 5.0?

6.0 is stable already.

[ashen spindle]

cost

[young pecan]

Yeah, that’s a skip generation.

5000 or 6000 series Ryzen and then hit up PCI-E 6.0 with whatever the best is at the time.

[ashen spindle]

ehh, they can't keep it on 4 and you can't already put 6 in when it's only finalized end of the year and the cpus already are out by then

[young pecan]

A fair enough point.

How did we even get to 6.0 so fast?

4.0 took almost a decade.

[ashen spindle]

exponential increase in demand

[young pecan]

Seems like 6.0 was a year or two.

[ashen spindle]

when making 5 it was clear 6 is needed soon after

wasn't the case with 3

[young pecan]

Hmm.

Gonna be interesting how MS responds to 6.0 happening.

[misty saffron]

watch people on reddit say next generation gpus totally need pcie 6 bandwidth

[young pecan]

Will they rip out parts of Windows 10 or make Windows 11?

[ashen spindle]

I need pcie 1080 for my 1080

[young pecan]

‘Cause the poor OS is gonna freak out hard at 6.0 bandwidth.

It already barely handles RAID 5EE or any advanced FS setups with NVMe SSDs.

[crisp granite]

I find that hard to believe that when we don't even have GPUs saturating the full PCI-E 4.0 bandwidth as of now

[misty saffron]

3.0

[young pecan]

Wym, they barely saturate 16x 3.0, no?

[misty saffron]

ftfy

[crisp granite]

I know

but rn

we have 4.0 GPUs

keeping it relevant to today

but yes

also 3.0

[misty saffron]

which is completely unnecessary

[ashen spindle]

well, sorta, they don't need the bandwidth but SAM/ReBar isn't properly implemented till 4.0

[crisp granite]

so 4.0 is overkill atm

[ashen spindle]

so there is some valid reason

[misty saffron]

oh well

[young pecan]

Honestly, the demand for 6.0 will end up being in server clusters.

Just the sheer bandwidth will help a lot with the issues you get with software technical limitations.

[ashen spindle]

pcie5 is also a big step stone because CXL, amd's cpu/gpu infinit band and such are based on it

[young pecan]

We’re getting to the stage where we really do just need a new OS built from the floor up to handle specialty storage arrays.

[ashen spindle]

(which is why ice lake is a total joke, pcie3 until now, and everyone wants CXL on intel servers which is coming next gen after ice lake)

[young pecan]

I guess you could say it’ll launch cold.

:)

[misty saffron]

i want a pizza

[crisp granite]

I want pancakes

haven't had them in years

[shadow minnow]

But apparently gear 2 has lot higher impact on amd CPUs compared to intel, where with intel it’s actually recommended on high speeds.

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil Let's strike a deal, you send me the GPU, and I pay you 50% of the MSRP + moderate the discord /minecraft server so you don't have to

You get to enjoy your your life, I get good shit? Deal? Deal

[shadow minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/request-denied-tom-welling-marcus-pierce-lucifer-denied-gif-17389349

[ashen spindle]

"By default, all Rocket Lake processors will support DDR4-2933 at a 1:1 ratio in the specifications. Above this will mean a 2:1 ratio, except for the Core i9 family, which allows for a DDR4-3200 1:1 ratio"

[shadow minnow]

This is changeable in bios of mobo too, you can select auto/gear 1/gear 2

[ashen spindle]

you usually want 1:1 aside from I think pure latency? or was it pure bandwidth?

yes but only for i9

[shadow minnow]

I think you want 1:1 for latency

4266 at gear 2 compared to 2133 gear a scored like 20% higher in time spy

[ashen spindle]

you want gear 1 as high as possible

you want gear 2 if you are out for pure ram speeds and such

[shadow minnow]

Also afaik the impact on latency is not that high as with AMD CPUs, as apparently there is also something with sync with infinite fabric, so gear 2 on intel should actually be sometimes better than gear 1

From what I have heard you can go up to 3600/3800 on gear 1. But also gear 2 has lot smaller impact.

[ashen spindle]

worry about it not bricking first

[shadow minnow]

What software to use to find out core latency, or impact of gear 2 on ram and it?

But also, say F to this mobo. Apart from RGB calibration it was good while it worked

[crisp granite]

[pale sigil]

My battery is so fucked

[shadow minnow]

F

[shadow minnow]

😦Also android system consuming so much, or does it include some other stuff?

[cursive summit]

Is this good?

[pale sigil]

Pretty sure i left with 55%

Now at 8%

Left like 12am

[halcyon moss]

what phone @pale sigil

[pale sigil]

Xiaomi Mi9t

[halcyon moss]

ah well theres your chinese trash problem :p

2year old phone?

[pale sigil]

No

It's just over a year old

No

Phone isn't trash at all

Xiaomi have some of the best phones on the market

[halcyon moss]

your battery says otherwise :p

my pixel 2 is 3 years old by now, the battery still manages to do okay

[vapid zodiac]

how you use the battery will often make the biggest difference

[pale sigil]

Ye but my battery shouldn't say that everyone else's phone with the same model

Is bad

[vapid zodiac]

if its a crap battery to start with yeah... but if its mid to high tier, the difference is usage

[shadow minnow]

Does not look like unreasonable battery usage to me

Especially compared to how my battery is used, but that’s another thing

[pale sigil]

Considering I used to only charge it every 3 days

[shadow minnow]

Still 100% maximum capacity luckily

[pale sigil]

Now its every day

[vapid zodiac]

if you keep a lipo (whats in your phone) charged at 100% or very low for large amounts of time, its not good for them

ie 4.2 or 3.4v for extended periods of time

keeping them around 3.7-3.8v is best

for longevity

over discharge is also a thing that can affect them but considering most lipos have 10c at least, thats 30a with the usual 3Ah capacity

so unlikely with your phone, over charge rate is bad tho, you usually get 2-3c rating but again thats 9a

[halcyon moss]

20% <80%

dont quickcharge often :p

[vapid zodiac]

voltage isnt linear to capacity, especially under load

you dont get much load in phones tho so makes it easier

with quads, battery will sit at 3.6-7v for a while then drop like a rock

[halcyon moss]

true, but these are easy guidelines

[young pecan]

Mmm. Are there any real tech trees to go down for better battery tech anyway?

We’re kinda at the peak of what we can do with lithium-ion batteries.

Safely, anyway.

[halcyon moss]

solid state, bnut thats been teased for a while already..

[young pecan]

Not viable for common use compared to lithium-ion yet. :/

[pale sigil]

I rarely quick charge

[vapid zodiac]

lithium sulfur i believe is in works but again at least 5 years before public availability and 10 years before in devices

there is another one thats like 20 years out but cant remember what it is rn

[ashen spindle]

probably the one with carbon nanotubes

[vapid zodiac]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen spindle]

or carbon sheets not tubes idk, but that seems like it has an option in every place in the tech space, just years away lol

[young pecan]

I really just want someone to make something insanely futuristic.

Quantum entanglement charging or something BS.

Literally entangle your phone to a power supply. Infinite power with infinite range.

Ah scifi, you keep me going sometimes.

[vapid zodiac]

best youre gonna get in the realms of feasibility is whole room charging but thats... yeah not really possible due to the amount of power it uses

[young pecan]

The thing is quantum entanglement charging is SUPER doable.

If you can work out how to entangle the waveforms of particles and actually store them then you basically win.

[vapid zodiac]

ah yes, if you can work out how to manipulate one of the basic items that make up the universe...

[young pecan]

We kinda already can.

[vapid zodiac]

if you can do that, you can just turn anything into anything

[young pecan]

Yeah no, that’s not quite what we’re talking about.

Forcing changes in a waveform isn’t the same as rebuilding fundamental components manually to form elements.

[vapid zodiac]

if we use particle/wave duality, changing the waveform, changes the particle

[young pecan]

That’s true, but forcefully entangling two particles wouldn’t let you change one to be anything else.

[vapid zodiac]

entanglement isnt changing the waveform

[young pecan]

If you forced the waveform of one onto something else entirely? Sure.

[vapid zodiac]

its quantum physics, if you think you understand it, you probably dont (to quote someone smarter than me)

[young pecan]

No, it’s not, but the waveforms need to be basically exactly the same, no? Else it’s just a cosmic fluke.

Manually doing it would probably require stupid fuckery because we’re people. :/

[vapid zodiac]

iirc the entanglement they have done is to change the spin direction on an electron

[young pecan]

Right, so it matches another particle closely enough (exactly) and they take on the same properties.
I’m fudging my terms a little, but it’s 2am.

[vapid zodiac]

which as a proof of concept is fancy but not usable until they can scale that to hundreds of electrons if not thousands

[young pecan]

Try and piece together my nonsense. xD

Hundreds?!?

Billions. Tens of billions.

[vapid zodiac]

just for very basic data transmission

effectively each flipped spin is a bit

[young pecan]

Though I think if you could entangle two you could probably scale it up.

[vapid zodiac]

it wouldnt be worthwhile to do in anything other than super long distance comms for stuff like deep space

[young pecan]

Would each flipped spin be a bit? You could force the link into a single up state being a 1, anything else by default being a 0.

That would halve the operation time.

And considering the nature of entanglement it’s not like the particles would be the limiting factor.

[vapid zodiac]

spin has 2 states so either on or off, thus acts like a bit which is either a 1 or 0

[young pecan]

Spin has theoretically infinite states depending on how closely you look.

[vapid zodiac]

that being said, we are talking about qubits so... could be both as well

this is a huge generalization

[young pecan]

Insert the joke here, yes.

Is it like that in quantum physics? Yes, no, and mostly sometimes.

I’m just curious how you would contain this kind of shit. Or use it for that matter.

The particles are a stupid headache, but the actual connection and containment tech? Silicone-28 maybe? Whatever you use really can’t have shit for spin.

[vapid zodiac]

well, you either know where it is or what state, not both

because uncertainty principle

[young pecan]

That’s the point of the silicone-28 in quantum processors, no?

Hold it in a rough area so you can measure the spin.

[vapid zodiac]

rough area yeah, you can know rough approximations of where it is and what the spin is, just not exact

but then again, everything is probability in that scale

[halcyon moss]

graphite

[ashen spindle]

er, right

[halcyon moss]

it can do everything! all but leave the lab

[ashen spindle]

soon it can also do your taxes

[shadow minnow]

Is there any way to save ram OC profiles

[reef patrol]

Depends on the BIOS. Usually to 1-5 profiles (will be wiped if the BIOS goes) and to file on a USB.

Or use a Windows based app.

[shadow minnow]

Or to just copy xmp one, to be able to only change certain things, as timings there are already set and I only need to change frequency and voltage at start

[shadow minnow]

Do I always need to have plugged in usb to save them on, or?

[reef patrol]

I mean... if you set an OC and apply it. The BIOS will remember it. Unless you reset it.

The saving to USB is a file you load later in case you lose the BIOS settings.

[ashen spindle]

or kill the board

[crisp granite]

sounds like a plan

[shadow minnow]

Not funny

[crisp granite]

not a good one

but a plan nonetheless

not a good one

ffs

discord

only sending some messages

discord

totally making it impossible to understand

[shadow minnow]

I guess I won’t really need that since safe boot button. But also how to save these profiles? Couldn’t find a way anywhere

[ashen spindle]

read the board manual

different for every bios/board

ah yes discord indeed dying again

[shadow minnow]

Thought it’s only for me

Also died

Also died for me

[reef patrol]

It depends on the BIOS and brand. Some only let you save the entire BIOS setup. Others specifically let you save CPU/RAM Overclocking presets.

So you can have a summer profile and a winter profile. Or whatever.

[shadow minnow]

Steam smh making fun of me. I wanna launch game on this mac and it says I am playing on another computer.

[young pecan]

Kinda cool looking.

Pointless, but cool.

[cursive summit]

https://www.techpowerup.com/281483/what-amd-didnt-tell-us-21-4-1-drivers-improve-non-gaming-power-consumption-by-up-to-72

Big noice buffs

[ashen spindle]

kinda the same thing like they already did on the burst pro

[wheat plume]

APpLe CArE AboUt PRIvaCy

https://youtu.be/r38Epj6ldKU

[ashen spindle]

[Company] CArE AboUt PRIvaCy

[crisp granite]

yes actually

the more data they have on you, the more they can target and sell

so, if they keep that juicy data in their ecosystem as much as possible, they can make more money

[reef patrol]

I hate that this became a thing a year ago... and still hasn't been fixed.

[wheat plume]

the problem is they dont keep it to themselves

[crisp granite]

well duh

[wheat plume]

they give it to the highest bidder

[crisp granite]

they sell it

more profitable that way

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/R5_v0OdFD0A?t=470

look at this graph

[crisp granite]

mark-ass brownlee

I bet he got that phone 6 months ago

[wheat plume]

who knows

:')

[crisp granite]

idk

I just like shitting on him

it's like the worst flex you can possibly give in a review and a great way to discredit it as well

because early samples can often have issues that full production samples don't

[reef tundra]

The fortnite guy. Mark ass brown lee

[analog tartan]

yo i need help with the wooting app
it says i have an error when trying to download it
same thing happened when i was trying to use keys2input aswell

[crisp granite]

quit crossposting

and do as I said in general

[ashen spindle]

given ultrabook is a name created by intel

no not really any

[pale sigil]

Such a pleb to watch

DOnt do that to yourself

[wheat plume]

?

[wheat plume]

At least discord realize no one uses light theme xd

[crisp granite]

when even the company acknowledges the memes of their platform

[wheat plume]

It's wonderful

[reef tundra]

Light theme is just pure white

[ivory geyser]

But but, pRoPeR cOlOr sCheMe!!111!

[wheat plume]

And very hard to see upload bars when you send shit and hard to see reply / ping orange highlight

[reef tundra]

Who needs to see what they are doing?

[wheat plume]

The face unlock on my phone works when I'm in a fully dark room cause of the light of the phone screen....

Good to know

The brightness isn't even that high
But I do have bright wallpaper I guess

[reef tundra]

When you use your face as key

[wheat plume]

Xd

It's like people who go up to a bouncer and be like "my face is my id, let me in"

[wheat plume]

"I'm the man who's going to burn your house down, WITH THE LEMONS"

[zenith sonnet]

You should be careful with loading profiles from older BIOS versions. There is a reason they are deleted these days when you flash a new version. My old X99 was still retaining them through a flash. Sometimes, things change under the hood, e.g. a hex setting can be turned into a decimal one, or a voltage range is changed, and loading old values can actually kill hardware in the worst case...

[young pecan]

Fucking scalper prices. In which universe is this an ok thing to happen?!

2 grand is now somehow normal for an RTX 3070? Literally 2 weeks ago they were 1.5k each.

[radiant surge]

Yea ikr, i had to go with a prebuilt one from nzxt because they had a 6800xt in stock. Overall they are pretty transparent about the price and i got the 6800xt with somewhat msrp price

[young pecan]

Can confirm Australia has 30 graphics cards in stock within 800km of me, gray markets have a few hundred.

[radiant surge]

32 weeks wtf lolol thats like more than half a year

And Nvidia is dropping another 3080ti...which mosy of us prolly not gonna be able to get it..like why would they not invest that into production line 😦

[young pecan]

@radiant surge Literally the entire PC industry is fucked rn.

Little silicone, no fabs are open and actually doing things reasonably fast, what fabs are open are massively overstretched, etc.

There are just no parts for anything atm, and all production is on backorders.

And COVID.

[radiant surge]

Oh and the chip shortage as well...

[young pecan]

And more PC gamers than ever before by 40% year on year.

Yep.

[radiant surge]

Now they cant even make cars

[young pecan]

Yep.

All of the industry is fucked, it'll continue to be fucked for years.

[radiant surge]

And im pretty sure auto industry comes first in priority compared to us mere gamers...but to think they even struggle themselves

[young pecan]

Basically, yeah.

I'm betting we're not seeing things go back to normal for 3+ years.

I'd be amazed if we saw COVID go back to normal within 3 years.

[radiant surge]

Bruh the 4runner is ome of the best suvs in the market right now

The thing is a tank...

[young pecan]

Remember bois, this happened because nobody saw a global pandemic and stayed inside or didn't travel.

Australia did, and now we're hilariously ahead of literally everyone else.

[radiant surge]

Wait i thought theh only discontinue the land cruiser in the us ?

Not the 4runner ?

Damnnn wtf

Oh oh isnt that supposed to be a good thing ? O.O but well new techs and so you have new things that can break down

[old marlin]

@fair gull do you sell m553s at work?

[fair gull]

nope

[old marlin]

Rip

Cause the m554 has no replacement toner with the chips

[pale sigil]

https://i.redd.it/ij2uwkbqumv61.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/mzf6ap/sister_spilled_chili_on_my_keyboardjust_bought_it/

[reef patrol]

Maybe if the idiot had unplugged it before taking a pic.

[reef tundra]

But the internet points..

[cursive summit]

That's vomit

[wheat plume]

i dont get how to edit this so it outputs with the right tag names? whats changing the tag name in this code? is it the variable name or the variable name in quatations?

top = Element('top')
whichj top makes the tag name say top in the output?

[ashen spindle]

look up the documentation where it explain Element() and you should know if it's using the parameter for naming

[crimson wigeon]

And/or just change things around and see what happens

[wheat plume]

I cant get it to run

I also cant import the prettify library for some reason

the one element tree uses

[ashen spindle]

AMD Zen 5 (Strix) will feature big.LITTLE.
The big cores are, of course, Zen 5 cores.
Well the littles will be interesting...

also no more warhol, we'll just get some XT refresh again at some point

which makes sense tbh

[proper crystal]

Source?

[ashen spindle]

To be leaked ™

[cursive summit]

Strix?

Incoming Asus lawsuit

[wheat plume]

how tf do I install element tree? I need the prettify function from it

[dry tendon]

Ehh IDK if someone is interested but from Nemes' chat/Twitter

these are bandwidth numbers for some GPUs. Raw bandwidth, so caches till VRAM

Does not take into account things like DCC which increase effective bandwidth.

Ampere and RDNA2 are undereportted on the L1 level. It should be 27 Terbatyes for RDNA 2 and 20 for Ampere's 3090

but measuring such batshit insane bandwidth is hard

The red line is due to a driver oddity, it represents how it should be. So many caveats, its a wip but its still cool

[wheat plume]

There is a module in Python called minidom

Does this mean there is minisub too?

:')

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

I like that the terminal in vs Code has the clear command to remove the output I dont need anymore

Why does Spotify stream higher bitrate on the phone app?

For the free version at least

[reef patrol]

I assume due to agreements with carriers and the inherent limitations of bandwidth on most plans?

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle know any crypto exchanges that you can withdraw funds to your bank account without ID verification?

fucking binance

[ashen spindle]

nope not touching anything that shady lol

[fickle ore]

You've sent your ID?

[ashen spindle]

been like 3 years since I made my account so idk anymore if im honest

[fickle ore]

Some companies in the EU tell you to scrub away your ID number, they only want the photo

[ashen spindle]

let me check what I did

can I even check what I did hmmm

[fickle ore]

Nope

[ashen spindle]

yea idk then, always been using binance

[fickle ore]

if you're withdrawing via SEPA I guess you've sent ID 😛

[ashen spindle]

haven't withdrawn to fiat yet

[fickle ore]

They let you withdraw via Visa.. but only 120€ each time so I would need like 10+++ transactions :c

[ashen spindle]

look at this millionair flexing his gains smh

[fickle ore]

Doge's been good..

[ashen spindle]

yeah cant help you then, keeping my earnings in stable coin, don't really have any ammount I really need on it

so I didnt need to withdraw yet

[fickle ore]

ahh

1.2€ fee per 120€ withdraw.. not too bad if I withdraw say 700€ for a new graphics card.

[wheat plume]

how do I make a for loop that only runs for the length of an array, but the array has strings and not ints

using python

[umbral knot]

and this is why I never learned to code all of the dofferent terms are too confusing

[wheat plume]

this should work....

group name array has 3 variables

so len_array = 3

but when I run the code it just hangs and I have to manually stop it

[ashen spindle]

are you incrementing i in the loop?

you need to post full code snippets if you want help xD

[fickle ore]

Alright that worked, didnt need ID reveal via visa withdraw 😉

[ashen spindle]

good to know for the future

[wheat plume]

how do I make an array with the number of elements as another array?

I need to make an array of numbers starting from 0 and going until the length of another array

[wheat plume]

..... FFS LANA .-. Now im fucking not

[ashen spindle]

.. you get the length of the array and make an array of that size?

[wheat plume]

it cant find the arrays cause the code is in a while loop .-. wtf?

[ashen spindle]

ah, strix seems to be the Zen5 APU codename

so after Raphael

[wheat plume]

it doesnt like this line
"IndexError: list index out of range"

all the arrays are the same length

[ashen spindle]

think about what len() returns

and how you index arrays

[wheat plume]

ok I got it to work

but now I need each loop to be between the tag

rn, its putting all rows between one set of tags
I want each row to be between its own set of tags

each row is between <variable> </variable
with each row having these tags around it

rn, its only one set of those and all the rows inside it

.-. just move that line into the loop

EZ Lana, EZ

[ivory geyser]

Coul be, but it could just mean that minidom refers to the HTML DOM :P

[wheat plume]

Now I need to make the namespace in the XML file

🤔

python has no way to do that so you do it yourself? wot

[young pecan]

It's happening, bois.

Spending 20 grand on crypto mining. Send help.

[ashen spindle]

sounds risky this late into it

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[young pecan]

You'd think so.

[ashen spindle]

well, guess depends on what exactly

[young pecan]

Crypto isn't going anywhere for a good long while, and even if it does I can flip the cards for above what I paid.

[ashen spindle]

if it's on ETH miners and the PoW gets removed next month you're fucked

[young pecan]

Then I move to a different altcoin.

[ashen spindle]

if those are profitable then

[young pecan]

They are, yeah.

[crisp granite]

[ashen spindle]

well now they are, but if suddenly ever eth miner would switch, that could cause some hefty drops in their price

[crisp granite]

well

quin

I'll give him one thing

[young pecan]

Even then that works for me.

Less demand would be less block difficulty.

[crisp granite]

he can easily sell his GPUs for whatever he paid for them, at least

[young pecan]

Might be fucked for a while, but the higher payout in currency would benefit me later.

And again, crypto isn't going anywhere any time soon.

[crisp granite]

and mining will cover his power costs

[ashen spindle]

it might sure, not guaranteed though

[young pecan]

Not a guarantee, true.

[ashen spindle]

and crypto not going anywhere doesn't necessarily correlate with mining not going anwhere 😛

[young pecan]

Of course.

But again, I'm buying each 3070 for 1,600 each.

They sell second hand for 2 grand. ._.

[crisp granite]

you'll be able to sell then for at least what you payed for them

[young pecan]

Mhmm.

At most I lose a few hundred for the frame and mobo.

[crisp granite]

:(

losing a few hundred sucks

but better than everything

[young pecan]

Well no, because my current 3070s have already earned that.

[crisp granite]

well then

congrats

[young pecan]

This late in is risky, very much so.

[crisp granite]

you're actually gambling, in a somewhat smart way

[young pecan]

But cards aren't going to be in supply for ages.

[wheat plume]

im losing my fucking mind .-. I just need to create the xml file's namespace AGHH and I cant find anything online using the method im using

[ashen spindle]

personally don't like it, but im well aware moral standing don't change if it's possible/legal

I'll be glad once crypto is a bit less stupid and full of ponzi, but till then I'm not saying no to free money

[young pecan]

Basically, yeah.

[ashen spindle]

• we are the country with highest electricity cost iirc, so that makes it easier to not consider mining lmao

still worth it but not as much

[wheat plume]

Its trying to output to bytes.... how do I make it output as string?

but im using tostring() on the data :/

[fickle ore]

Selling 3070's second hand for 1.6k.. Not for long bro.

Ti's incoming 😉

[crisp granite]

and will be even scarcer

so prices might dip for a hot second

but nowhere near original MSRP

[fickle ore]

I mean go for it if you want to, but be ready to kiss your money a goodbye

[crisp granite]

already got one for myself

[ashen spindle]

comes from the one who had money in dogecoin

[crisp granite]

Aeon's a miner so he can afford to pay 1.6k a GPU

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle ?? Mined doge in 2013 with a single amd 6950 or gtx 780 cant remember

[crisp granite]

since that's a few months added to ROI or something

[fickle ore]

😄

[ashen spindle]

ah fair enough then

[wheat plume]

????

why tf is myData in bytes???

cause tostring() isnt the function name and its actually str() instead

FML

[young pecan]

@crisp granite Eh. I can afford to do it because there’s no supply for any GPUs anywhere.

[umbral knot]

your data is in bytes? that sounds like my internet

[young pecan]

3090s actually nearly cost 5 grand each here.

For what should be a $2000 AUD card.

[crisp granite]

odd

they're consistently in stock here

[wheat plume]

OOOOFFF.... sounds like my upload speed

[crisp granite]

for $200-$300 above what they should cost

$2000 card

[young pecan]

rolls eyes Of course Australia is fucked.

Wth?

Where are they in stock?