Or the very least in primary school
#🔌│tech
pale sigil
halcyon moss
i had a nvia tnt 2 in a file server because it needs a graphics card :p
hard thicket
jokes on you my first pc had a mx200
cursive summit
JINGLES PAD
fickle ore
@ashen spindle what extra layers for pcie4.0? Motherboards been 4/6/8 for years and years 😄
ashen spindle
we have 10 layer boards, it means you might need 8 just for pcie4 when it otherwise would be working with 6 etc.
fickle ore
What?? most x570 boards are 4/6 and only some expensive ones are 8
ashen spindle
uhh idk which one but I remember buildzoid going over some and one was 10 layers, idk which one
also yes its obv not the only factor
fickle ore
I see zero 10 layer boards
I wish they had made 10/12 layer boards for pcie4.0 but one can dream
ashen spindle
uh I think it was a z590
fickle ore
Yeah, I think AMD not releasing new boards for Zen 3 was a mistake. The usb issues could definitely have stemmed from too little layers for chipset pcie 4.0 or pcie4.0 in general
Maybe intel upped the layer count specifically for z590?
shadow minnow
uh I think it was a z590
mITX boards usually have the most layers, but even z590 master has 6
wheat plume
You buy?
pale sigil
No
pale sigil
£230 is insane
wheat plume
That cpu though
pale sigil
He but £230
Lol
HDR 10
120hz
Great cpu
Large battery
Completely disregard the camera tho
cursive summit
The camera's good
I have the Poco X3
It's basically just a superior model
For the same price 
cursive summit
?
It works
It takes good photos
Fuck do you want more
Jesus christ the pickiness nowadays
IT'S NOT APPLE CAMERA!!!
So what, it still takes good photos
cursive summit
Zoom in is actually fairly good
I used the camera as binoculars once to spy on the office building on the opposite side of the street
pale sigil
My issue is more with the fact the cameras used are generic
And companies like one plus use them
But charge insane amounts
cursive summit
🤷♂️ You are buying a sick phone with sick specs for the price here
pale sigil
The one plus 7 t for example
Was essentially the m9t
Pro
Haha ye
For sure
Insane specs
For such a little cost is insane
cursive summit
Only good OnePlus phone was the 5 I think
pale sigil
But the camera is basically useless in my eyes
cursive summit
Eh, I got the X3 and it's good enough for my usage
Just snapping casual pictures
Good for documents, etc
Oh and speakers
The speakers are really good
Plus it has a 3.5mm jack
shadow minnow
Why is there a cable out of io shield area, connected to something that looks like, and from board manual is supposed to be a PWM fan connector, even though there afaik is not supposed to be one, on aorus Z590 master?
zenith sonnet
RGBling?
reef patrol
That's definitely a fan header.
zenith sonnet
Guess you need a VRM fan when your CPU needs 2x 8 pin power
hard thicket
to make fully use or two eps connectors you have to do LN2
crisp granite
damn bro
reef patrol
crisp granite
thems fast
fair gull
and its just a continuation
fair gull
this has been running for 4months by now almost non stop
103gb saved already
still a fuck ton to go
crisp granite
wut
dude
I swear, something on that storage system you got should crap out before that finishes
if that's the pace you're getting
fair gull
i certainly dont hope so
crisp granite
I hope that doesn't happen either
fair gull
and it already did shit the bed
crisp granite
oh
fair gull
we had to actually refow it (smth i usually dont do) to even get it to show up in windows
or linux
linux refused to recover data tho
latent mural
anyone know how the wooting is even made
true quest
carefully
crisp granite
anyone know how the wooting is even made
yes
with parts
mainly injection molded plastic
and some metal plates
a pcb
ashen spindle
the youtube channel even has a production vlog if you want to watch it
crisp granite
and yeah, keyboard
ashen spindle
though that is from the trial production and start of mass produciton, nothing really changes from there
ivory geyser
anyone know how the wooting is even made
Like any other piece of electronic tbh, there is nothing special about it in regards to how it is made.
cursive summit
and yeah, keyboard
He actually called you funny
Might be the first person in the world to actually consider you funny
ashen spindle
saw a listing for a 3080 on mindfactory today
gigabyte version
1800€
5 minutes later listing price was 1200€
5 minutes later sold out (was >5 in stock)
cursive summit
You have a lot of time on your hands to check mindfactory every 5 mins
upbeat quarry
I don't know if anybody can relate but I have an AOC monitor and when I tried to download G-Menu for it it would just be endless buffering on the program any fixes?
reef patrol
Never used GMenu. I just uh... use my monitor normally?
Not sure why you'd want software 😄
crimson wigeon
Game specific profiles or something
latent mural
you could get the cheapest prebuild possilbe off of dell with a 3080 in it then take the card out and stick it in ure current rig
reef patrol
Can confirm.
But uhh... I wouldn't recommend it for anyone not watercooling
It's a loud boi.
reef patrol
I mean that's mostly up to the cooling these days.
Ugh.... Effing Discord.
There we go.
crimson wigeon
I wish it was that cool
pale sigil
It's just one command 
or running jt like a normal exe
reef patrol
But that's not hollywood fun,.
pale sigil
apt-get install firefox-latest
That however
Is when you're trying to run software for your mouse though!
wheat plume
This is why you get roccat mouse
The software is available on Linux and the mouse I have stores the settings onboard
So you'll never need the software again
halcyon moss
Steelseries has that too, and a nice third party cli tool
wheat plume
Oh neat
ashen spindle
any guesses when the intel financial day started? 
wheat plume
This wallpaper..... its so, idek... wtf
zenith sonnet
Cute, I guess?
reef patrol
...yes 😄
ivory geyser
This wallpaper..... its so, idek... wtf
It is a hippo's head sticking out water. Not sure what is so wtf on it
neat oriole
I thought it was some owl type thing holding up a pair of tits
reef patrol
We've gone full on rorschach here.
ivory geyser
I thought it was some owl type thing holding up a pair of tits
Holy shit that is some imagination.
zenith sonnet
To horny jail with you
wheat plume
:')
wheat plume
It disturbs me
neat oriole
You can’t put me in horny jail
wheat plume
That wallpaper
neat oriole
I’m too slippery
zenith sonnet
I'm just confused about the wurmlike looking hair all over it
wheat plume
Prelubed
neat oriole
I’ll just slide right out
wheat plume
I'm just confused about the wurmlike looking hair all over it
The release of ubuntu is called hairy hippo
ivory geyser
I'm just confused about the wurmlike looking hair all over it
So it wouldnt look like an owl-thing holding tits xD
wheat plume
So yes
It's hairy
young pecan
Ayyyyyyyy lmao, I just killed a 4790k.
wheat plume
O.o
zenith sonnet
I got one in the attic still
It'll probably never see light again
Der8auer had an XTXH Navi 21 running at 3.225 GHz
And it was only pulling 300-330W
That's crazy low
young pecan
Do you know why it costs so much?
crisp granite
and ship it to Australia
crisp granite
Do you know why it costs so much?
no
young pecan
Yep.
All of the 8th and 9th gen Celerons and Pentiums are going for 150+ second hand.
$400 new.
crisp granite
what the fuck
young pecan
Think the scalpers care? 
crisp granite
the scalpers are scalping people who can definitely take a hit
young pecan
Pfff, fuck off.
crisp granite
scalping regular consumers isn't right at all
young pecan
I'm on a shitload of debt and I'm redlining all of my funds to do this.
Ramen, bitch, it be how we live.
crisp granite
but businesses or anyone operating for profit
sure
a bit
but not that much
that's just insane
$150 for a dual core is just...
no
young pecan
Seen the prices for GTX 1050s? 
crisp granite
prices for any GPU rn are shit
young pecan
SECOND HAND, BTW.
crisp granite
I've seen nothing better than launch MSRP for GTX 1000 cards
young pecan
HIGHER THAN MSRP.
crisp granite
bruh
young pecan
How tf is it even going for that much?
crisp granite
still
crisp granite
it's hard to be surprised
market is shit
and getting anything, for any purpose
is pretty hard
young pecan
I know I can get 1100 for my 1080Ti, maybe 1200.
crisp granite
and lightning isn't gonna strike twice for me
young pecan
I'm ok going into another 1700 debt for that sweet 3090.
crisp granite
please don't
young pecan
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
I'm redlining everything. If I miscalculate anything whatsoever I run out of money at the end of the week.
xD
crisp granite
excuse my overly conservative mindset
young pecan
I mean yeah sure, but I now AFK $650 USD a month.
crisp granite
but what you did is really fucking stupid
sure
mine
but not with your savings and credit
young pecan
It is, yeah. I'm not gonna claim this is smart.
But if I play my cards right, which I have been so far, I retire in 3 years.
crisp granite
I can't say I like what I'm seeing at all
young pecan
Idk, retire at 26 sounds pretty pogchamp to me.
crisp granite
you're gambling
young pecan
I am, yes.
I'm gambling on knowing that I can resell mining cards at around MSRP even in a year if shit fucks up.
And assuming it goes well I continue mining for ages.
crisp granite
a safety net of sorts
but is the damage to your credit worth it?
what if regulations change and mining becomes impractical?
young pecan
As far as regulation? Thought of that.
Heaps of countries and governments are trying to lock it down and failing.
Except the UK.
The UK's banking network is trying to make their own currency.
Guess who lives in a commonwealth country?
Meeeeeeeeeee.
young pecan
I find it semi likely that if it goes full scale with the UK government then Aus might pick it up.
Honestly, so long as nothing goes horribly wrong I'm in the clear.
crisp granite
and I genuinely don't feel ready to
young pecan
That's the trick, dude.
Just gotta dive in face first and carve your spot.
Not easy, never safe, never cheap.
But goddamn if you do it right.
young pecan
I was too, years ago.
crisp granite
I'll jump ship the moment I'm unsure
young pecan
I learn, Doge.
crisp granite
but I know I'll be able to sell the parts of the mining rig for more than I bought it all for
so there's something in that, I guess
young pecan
Every day of my life I learn. I read, I research, I study, and I relentlessly chase knowledge.
Over the past 8 or so years that's rewarded me in ways I'd never expected it to, you should do the same.
Confidence in risky decisions will only ever come when you understand the basis of what the risk is.
crisp granite
I do all of those as well
but I still don't feel 100% certain
I never do
and that's saved my bacon more times than not
young pecan
We're different people, I don't have an answer for you.
young pecan
For me? I take the risk because I want a future where I can do real good.
That's enough for me, just the idea that I have that potential.
crisp granite
I want a future that simply means I don't have to worry about anything
a perfectly stable future
job
family
savings
that's all I really ever want
young pecan
Hmmm.
crisp granite
of course, I'd save for retirement, or surprise costs
but I don't need tens of millions for retirement
so, why put away that much?
crisp granite
I'd just give it to charities
with the infrastructure to make that money go further
better more lives
young pecan
I think I'd work on large scale development. Better housing for cheaper, that kind of thing.
crisp granite
better than me just winging it
young pecan
Charities just put a bandaid on a bad wound.
Fixing it requires trillions of dollars and massive change.
If I could at least help with that I could die happy.
crisp granite
and a few housing projects are a single drop in the bucket
young pecan
Indeed, but I'll be damned if I leave this world without making it better than I found it.
crisp granite
same here bud
but I'd leave it to the professional helpers
and I will participate, but not in a position where I can't be sure about 100% of my choices
young pecan
You won't get far, then.
crisp granite
certainty is what I strive for
young pecan
Nothing is certain in anything.
Gotta take the failure and learn from it, that's the only difference between being a novice and being an expert.
Experts have failed and learned enough times to know their shit.
crisp granite
exactly
we have educational institutions so that people can fuck up in a controlled environment, putting no one else in danger
so that you leave said institution prepared
young pecan
That doesn't work like that, man.
I can read all day about creating a mining rig and do it under a controlled environment, but life isn't controlled.
What if a cable isn't long enough because I got delivered a bad item? A component on the board breaks and I have to replace or fix it? Can't be taught everything.
crisp granite
I know
but you can get taught enough to bridge most gaps easily
certainty doesn't mean learned and done it before
young pecan
No, you're right about that.
But again, things can change and fluctuate far faster than you're trained to deal with.
It's a matter of experience.
young pecan
They'll never be large enough for what you're trying to find.
young pecan
And because of fear of failure you'll never take the plunge required to grow them further.
Not with anything risky.
crisp granite
that's why I'd like to work somewhere controlled, where a superior is there to guide when I got a question, or I'm confused
young pecan
Mmm.
crisp granite
better than trying completely blind
young pecan
Nobody is completely blind there, Doge.
Just don't go into bleeding edge research and you're fine. :P
young pecan
Disagree on that last one.
I had a teacher, more of a mentor, years ago. One thing I remember from him is he said to me once that IQ isn't as important a metric as people think.
I was confused at that, IQ is a direct measure to intelligence, how is it not important? Intelligence isn't defined by something as simple as the duration at solving problems of various complexity.
My social skills, for example, are completely fucked. I can run rings around most people for the sheer amount of knowledge I have, though.
crisp granite
I'm the same way tbh
I can't speak to others to save my life
but I've corrected my teachers before
on canadian history
not much more
young pecan
Honestly, I look at people telling me they aren't smart, and it confuses me a little.
crisp granite
I jokingly told my parents I wanted to be a professional bookworm when I grew up like 10 years ago
and they thought I was serious
young pecan
Bruh.
crisp granite
to be fair, I did read like 6 hours a day back then
young pecan
Ah, that does explain that.
young pecan
I still do a fair bit of reading.
crisp granite
still read 2-3 hours a day at least 3-4 times a week
young pecan
Did 70k words last night.
young pecan
Not my all time high, but high enough.
Still ripping through Ward.
Had to reread Worm tho, missed a few details.
young pecan
Hmm. Like what?
crisp granite
can't think of a title off of the top of my head
but I was reading my mum's uni textbooks at the age of 13
taking notes
extracting the common ground within the text
and other texts I've read
young pecan
Recently got some neurology textbooks from the high seas.
It's interesting, but not for work, y'know?
crisp granite
yeah
as with almost everything
it's only interesting if you don't deal with it on a daily basis
or
if it is interesting even then
you've struck a gold mine, stick with it
young pecan
I really need to read up on audio engineering. :L
Been trying to decide on a halfway good method of setting acoustic panels where I am.
So damned expensive.
hard thicket
having a room acoustic measurement mic is a helpful addition
managed to correct mine like that, place it at the position im sitting, and playing around for 4 hours to set everything correctly
halcyon moss
this is an interesting solution, i wonder what it means for wooting keyboards
https://twitter.com/WootingKB/status/1385354947651198976
Twitter
pale sigil
Fuck knows
Actually
I do know
This was discussed the other day
Just forgot xD
But there was a lot of conflict issues with xinpit
halcyon moss
Twitter
reef patrol
ashen spindle
well SATA being to slow was kinda obvious
slender rain
Printers are abominations in so many ways
wheat plume
Ooo
Sailor moon computer
pale sigil
You know you have a problem when you have random wootings scattered around your room
i Anyone interested? (As in basically free, maybe, UK only)
its a Wooting ONE PCB/Case and possibly some switches. German ISO
old marlin
without keycaps any ISO keyboard is the same
old marlin
I meant because you mentioned it being german ISO
hard thicket
oh a wild wooting
vapid zodiac
"possibly some switches" ah yes, the most descriptive of amounts
pale sigil
umbral knot
Ghost of Tsushima is a pretty good game
shadow minnow
Look good?
Yes, there is no your voice, but apart from that yes
pale sigil
@shadow minnow not meant to be
This is a £50 capture Card 
I didn't get it to stream
More pass through to my pc
So I don't have to sacrifice a monitor
shadow minnow
But also those comment bots smh
shadow minnow
So I don't have to sacrifice a monitor
Ban the bot 
shadow minnow
<@!590931863951114260> yo im proper impressed
By what?
But the stream quality was pretty good
shadow minnow
Yeah, it was quite Pog
pale sigil
shadow minnow
4 times less than elgato 4K 60 too Pog
pale sigil
its not a terrible game
pale sigil
dont spoil it
pale sigil
sweet jesus
umbral knot
The first one was good haven't played the second
ashen spindle
I quite liked watching the first 
pale sigil
8 minutes
shadow minnow
there isn't really anything to spoil anyway
Well there is
shadow minnow
And it is not really that bad, although kinda...
pale sigil
haha
shadow minnow
i agree its overated
Would not really call it overrated, heard so many people complaining about it, that it even seemed bit under rated to me
crisp granite
the only underrated game I've ever played was sunset overdrive
ashen spindle
best part is people only started saying they dont like the first one after people disliked the second one 
before that it was only a small group that just didn't like the first one
crisp granite
best part is people only started saying they dont like the first one after peopl...
the thing is, the first one is ok imo
the second is turboshit
shadow minnow
Cyberpunk is a very underrated game
ashen spindle
I think the second one had some gameplay issues but otherwise I liked it 
it's quite obvious what they did would not be liked by everyone but that doesn't make it bad imo
umbral knot
the only underrated game I've ever played was sunset overdrive
Sunset Overdrive is great
crisp granite
IKR!!!!
pale sigil
anyone know any software
shadow minnow
Some parts of it were really bad imo, but there were also quite a lot parts that were not with the Last of us
pale sigil
i can use other than obs to view my capture card
ashen spindle
does it not come with its own software?
pale sigil
nah
vapid zodiac
ewww 30fps, needs at least 120hz
shadow minnow
360 is bare minimum in 2021
reef tundra
vapid zodiac
just turn it off
wheat plume
markiplier?
ashen spindle
lana pls
wheat plume
?
proper crystal
You know. Don't pretend otherwise.
pale sigil
XD
wheat plume
wait.......getting wifi on the new ipads costs more money?
misty saffron
5g
crimson wigeon
Do you see a non-wifi variant?
wheat plume
wifi isnt 5g
pale sigil
misty saffron
not seeing non-wifi versions
reef patrol
wifi isnt 5g
And the Wifi only model is cheaper. Not sure what your issue is?
crisp granite
To think, back in the day 50 quid would get you a dogshit capture card
oh, march of progress
wheat plume
None of the new iMacs comes with 16GB ram ..... wtf
crisp granite
remember when a £1000+ GPU couldn't get you a 60fps experience with RTX?
wheat plume
pale sigil
I'm surprised your surprised lana
crisp granite
lana
misty saffron
i'm surprised you think that means anything
crisp granite
apple are the kings and queens of overpriced shit
reef patrol
Yeah.. the whole 8GB thing is just dumb.
misty saffron
bet my ass they use ios memory management
crisp granite
but the thing is
reef patrol
Especially since you don't even get 8GB - It's shared.
crisp granite
the OS is really efficient compared to windows
so you can genuinely squeeze by with less
reef patrol
We had this discussion the other day - You can't "efficienct" your way out of hard limits 😄
reef patrol
If I open a 500GB Photoshop PSD, it's going to use several gigs immediately
wheat plume
ios devices don't need 12
it comes with the m1 chip
crisp granite
so
misty saffron
and it also comes with ios
wheat plume
true
pale sigil
8gb is just dumb period
crisp granite
but storage, I presume?
wheat plume
I like the colors, they arent too over kill
wheat plume
over kill as in the red of the iphone, thats too red
TIL iMacs comes with a keyboard
vapid zodiac
CHIN
wheat plume
yeah..... too much chin
reef patrol
4 Gigabytes. I just opened a multilayered, effect heavy .PSD file that's 528GB.
crisp granite
TIL iMacs comes with a keyboard
no
crisp granite
they come with the worst thing on this earth
reef patrol
So yeah... Don't expect to use these iMacs for "art"
umbral knot
it's not a keeb it's a disgraceful piece of plastic
wheat plume
LOL
crisp granite
it's not a keeb it's a disgraceful piece of plastic
hm
vapid zodiac
these imacs are for those who dont need one, just want one because "it fits my vibe"
crisp granite
you seem quite...reasonable, young man
umbral knot
my sister got one and it broke after 2 weeks
crisp granite
my sister got one and it broke after 2 weeks
get her a matias for mac
iirc they're running a promo rn
wheat plume
get her a matias for mac
or that low profile mech keychron board
vapid zodiac
just get them a rpi, garuntee run faster than mac
crisp granite
or that low profile mech keychron board
does it come with alps?
wheat plume
alps?
vapid zodiac
pretty much all modern switches are thiccer than their entire keeb
vapid zodiac
lekker switch best switch on earth
crisp granite
that's a linear, which takes it off of that list for me
I'm a tactile and clicky guy
vapid zodiac
linear gang best gang
crisp granite
linears are the shit for gaming though
vapid zodiac
analog control tho... gonna be great for ze space games
wheat plume
got to pay $300 extra for the slightly higher end iMac to get two extra ports
crisp granite
for typing, I hate them
reef patrol
got to pay $300 extra for the slightly higher end iMac to get two extra ports
The M1 chip has serious bandwidth issues in the chipset. The Macbook ones have like no connections. Which is hilarious.
crisp granite
wheat plume
io lag?
vapid zodiac
funnily enough using a chipset designed for tablets, in a desktop, doesnt work too well
reef patrol
Even FEWER* than previous Macbooks 😄
wheat plume
with little to no io?
my laptop has more ports than I ever need
crisp granite
Even FEWER* than previous Macbooks 😄
how can you do worse than 2 USB A ports and a 3.5mm jack?
vapid zodiac
for laptop, number of ports is ehhhh, for desktop, number of ports is really hecking important
wheat plume
I love how Apple are marketing the iMac speakers as "room-filling audio"
Yeah.... EVERY SOUND fills a room, you could drop a plate off a table and have it shatter and that fills the room with sound. But its not good sounding sound
reef patrol
In Apple's defense they didn't coin that phrase or what it means.
But they're definitely lying 😄
wheat plume
I know :')
They arent lying, it WILL fill the room
but that doesnt market how it sounds
misty saffron
i'd expect those speakers to be really good
after homepod
they clearly have good audio engineers
wheat plume
I find every home assistant speaker sounding pretty dang good
reef patrol
Sure - If you're sitting in front of it. "room filling" is a huge stretch.
wheat plume
my friends echo sounds great
reef patrol
Room Filling implies you can do a small party.
wheat plume
My speakers get super loud but they arent the best sounding
reef patrol
LCDs ruined speakers.
Everything is now so thing, you can't really fit traditional parts. So they make compromises and work on new tech.
Your run of the mill Smart TV definitely needs a soundbar to sound remotely as good as any random CRT.
misty saffron
lg puts nice speakers in their tvs
reef patrol
"Speakers" (Random example)
wheat plume
ok, no way that sounds good
misty saffron
well, mine is way thicker at the base
reef patrol
With how thin laptops and the iMac are now, you can't expect them to cheat physics 😄
misty saffron
not the base but the bottom
reef patrol
I mean ultimately the iMac IS basically just a giant iPad.
misty saffron
hey my ipad pro sounds really good
reef patrol
Across the room?
misty saffron
maybe not that good
shadow minnow
Not even talking about iPad or MacBook, Even iPhone has pretty good speaker, so iMac with all the speaker may sound pretty good
pale sigil
got to pay $300 extra for the slightly higher end iMac to get two extra ports
and ethernet xD
shadow minnow
Also who knows how is it gonna be with Atmos, since two normal homepods were pretty good at emulating surround sound, and with the format well done, basically anything can sound surround, which is very rare though
wheat plume
I do want to try out MacOS, but I dont want to spend almost $900 to try it out
Yeah, for now
and I dont have a spare machine to try it on
cause it wont install on my computer cause nvidia gpu
how do I install this? https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru
:P
reef patrol
The M1 has killed this for now going forward.
wheat plume
The M1 has killed this for now going forward.
Yeah, once the next version of MacOS comes around, it will most likely only support the M1 chip
reef patrol
Doubt it'll be that soon given how many Intel Macs are still around. But it will definitely mean M1 specific Macs can't be emulated for a long time.
ashen spindle
not the entire OS but it could be certain features already
wheat plume
how long does it take for a mac to no longer get OS upgrades?
vapid zodiac
according to apple, about 3 seconds
reef patrol
Uh... 8? 9? years?
Big Sur the current version will run on as old as 2013 machines give or take.
wheat plume
according to apple, about 3 seconds
nah, tbf, Apple provide OS updates way longer than any Android brand does, to their phones
vapid zodiac
just to catch up on that audio quality from home hub thing, dont get a homepod for audio, get a echo or google home and buy decent speakers with the difference in price
reef patrol
However the issue with Apple is that once they cut support, they cut it hard.
wheat plume
yep
reef patrol
Lot of stuff starts breaking and your access to apps is VERY butchered.
vapid zodiac
also that os updates will slow down your system "to ensure longevity" or some other bs
wheat plume
Yeah, that one was shit
astral haven
Doubt it'll be that soon given how many Intel Macs are still around. But it will...
2 years from first intel mac to last powerpc version
astral haven
nah, tbf, Apple provide OS updates way longer than any Android brand does, to th...
Nowhere near as long as a pc tho
wheat plume
Nowhere near as long as a pc tho
Cause Microsoft give a shit about backwards compatibility
astral haven
Well yes?
ashen spindle
more like microsoft dont have any reason to get you to upgrade the hardware?
they dont sell you the pc
shadow minnow
also that os updates will slow down your system "to ensure longevity" or some ot...
Only reason that was once done were phones randomly shutting down...
astral haven
Which is a good thing because otherwise you get an apple situation where the hardware is designed to fail muuuch more quickly
astral haven
Only reason that was once done were phones randomly shutting down...
And the reason that that happened is that Apple was using cheap batteries and redlining them
shadow minnow
While you have support, one kinda advantage of MacOS is you can run windows on it but not the other way around
astral haven
You can go the other way around tho
shadow minnow
theyve been doing it for *years*
My phone got faster over updates, no they have not
astral haven
There's alot more hardware that runs macos than doesnt
Worst case you runnit in a vm like linus
vapid zodiac
macos is just reskinned linux
pale sigil
The whole apple slowing old devices down was exaggerated
shadow minnow
^
ashen spindle
exaggerated yes, wrong no
reef patrol
they dont sell you the pc
I mean... as far as OEMs go... they kind of do, indirectly at least.
But they don't have any control over that situation.
ashen spindle
sure but unlike apple they arent directly in control of the hardware line and have a big reason to push it
shadow minnow
exaggerated yes, wrong no
Not wrong, but many people interpret it wrong since not enough information, and think it was just to slow down devices for no real reason
astral haven
It wasn't exaggerated btw
shadow minnow
It was
astral haven
You just haven't used one of those devices
vapid zodiac
No it's unix
shhhhh, its close enough
shadow minnow
I literally have
astral haven
Once the battery gets under 50% useable lifespan the performance tanks hard
pale sigil
Ye
astral haven
It actively lags on the home screen
pale sigil
But thats not apple doing it in a evil way
ashen spindle
yeah it wasn't for no reason you're right, it was because they are shit at making it easily replaceable and dont want users to service their own device
pale sigil
its just pure logic
shadow minnow
Once the battery gets under 50% useable lifespan the performance tanks hard
Well, battery under 50% is really bad, usually had battery replaced after 1-3 years which was like 75% battery life
astral haven
I mean it was in the end getting people to upgrade their phones because the battery died
wheat plume
Linux tries to copy MacOS
?
astral haven
Customer had the phone for 2 years and it was at 45%
ashen spindle
it was a "good fix" because they purposefully made a bad design in the first place
astral haven
Swapped the battery for them and it was as if they had an entirely new phone
astral haven
They would have had to pay apple 130 us
reef patrol
"Security"
If no one can swap parts in your product except for the manufacturer, it's more secure.
astral haven
That means that you don't know how to properly handle software security
reef patrol
Because you know... we have an absolute plague of third party repairmen installing malware into your thumbprint reader or the speakers on your Macbook.
The whole battery/LCD discussion is a bit more interesting. Cause Apple always get blamed when a phone blows up, even if they didn't have anything to do with the replacement.
But until they sell official OEM parts, they don't have a leg to stand on.
astral haven
Nah the problem isn't malware it's installing a fingerprint sensor that allows you infinite retries
reef patrol
Linus did a video on right to repair the other day and basically shut Apple down hard using well reasoned arguments.
reef patrol
Nah the problem isn't malware it's installing a fingerprint sensor that allows y...
That's the OS, not the reader.
ashen spindle
or at least allow people to buy the same parts, they dont have to directly sell them
reef patrol
That's not why.
It's because every "important" part has a serial number that is tied to the main PCB.
They have to match or the phone throws a fit.
astral haven
That is what Apple did yes
reef patrol
LCD, Battery Thumbscanner and so on.
astral haven
Nah the problem isn't malware it's installing a fingerprint sensor that allows y...
And their excuse for doing that was this
reef patrol
You used to be able to clone the serial from one part to another, but Apple made it harder.
Now all you can do is solder off the broken sensor part and splice it with the working, important bit.
astral haven
Well no you cant
reef patrol
Could - My info is about a year old.
I no longer work as a repair tech 😄
And the newest iPhone that was worked on was the 8. And only just.
astral haven
As in the physical "can"
It's not physically possible to resolder either the touch Id chip on the fingerprint sensors or the display controller on the display ribbons
reef patrol
My colleague who did nothing but micro soldering would disagree. He basically did nothing but patch up damaged flex cables 😄
vast moss
I’ve seen folks like Louis Rossmann and Jessa Jones do microsoldering of that sort
reef patrol
Anyhow - Don't know, don't care anymore. I won't touch a modern Apple product with an iron poker 😄
astral haven
There's a difference between patching a slightly damaged cable and swapping one of those hundred Ball chips
Rossman literally just said it wasn't possible 2 days ago
reef patrol
I don't believe I ever said that was being done 😄
vapid zodiac
Anyhow - Don't know, don't care anymore. I won't touch a modern Apple product wi...
what if it was to stab the apple product with the iron poker?
shadow minnow
But also, HomePod mini is imo pretty good speaker, just the normal sound is pretty good. As a smart speaker, well, Siri, for me it does everything I need since only commands I use is play, set lights and that’s all, but otherwise
Apple has least issues with this afaik, especially compared to Amazon smart speakers
ashen spindle
not really they are all equally bad at that
once we get decent hardware and I can run it locally, I'll gladly use it for home automation
vapid zodiac
theyre all large companies that all have antitrust issues
ashen spindle
but nothing in cloud
vapid zodiac
and again, dont buy a homepod for the speaker, buy it for the siri (aka, dont buy it) because you can get one of the cheaper alternatives and spend the difference on a really good set of actual speakers
shadow minnow
Well, Apple policies are kinda, some people suggest Siri is so bad compared to other smart speakers because of lack of collected data but that may not be truth at all.
vapid zodiac
siri is bad because its extremely limited and beacause the voice recognition is... terrible
ashen spindle
apple takes your privacy as serious as they are a green company
aka big in pr, nothing in reality
shadow minnow
and again, dont buy a homepod for the speaker, buy it for the siri (aka, dont bu...
I mean, I also kinda bought it as hub for HomeKit for two smart lights, which, one thing good about HomePod mini smart speaker side is it supporting thread. It does it’s job as that, but it’s also a pretty loud and good sounding speaker
vapid zodiac
its a decent speaker but for the money you can get better ones
significantly better
i mean, if youre happy paying more for a objectively worse product ¯_(ツ)_/¯
shadow minnow
aka big in pr, nothing in reality
Well, they still may take it seriously, as if they didn’t, number of lawsuits and stuff like people talking about it, if serious things against it would be found out. But also things like Apps having to ask for tracking approval, Apple may not be doing it for privacy, but result for end customer is the same, same with all the environmental stuff.
ashen spindle
result for end customer is the same
hahah
hahahahah
no
same with all the environmental stuff.
those are literally lies and technicallities and in reality they produce ewaste like noone else
wheat plume
top mounted PSU, very interesting...
the GPU is so close to the bottom of the case too
vapid zodiac
housemate has psu at the top, it pains me when i see it
reef patrol
That's... most phone owners tbh.
shadow minnow
Already reached 256 once and had to move a lot of them to ehdd
young pecan
o_o
vapid zodiac
you people take photos?
shadow minnow
Also, currently surprisingly only 3000 photos, had over double that last time
vapid zodiac
apparently not
shadow minnow
Just the .raw photos take up lot of space, not even talking about Dolby vision 4K 60 videos
young pecan
Why does your phone even take raws?
shadow minnow
Do just not compress anything?
Compression : losing some data in process so no
wheat plume
Why does your phone even take raws?
some gcam ports have that option
shadow minnow
Why does your phone even take raws?
Why not, allows better edditing in Lightroom... not that I would do it oftenly
But also default camera app
young pecan
A phone, though?
wheat plume
ye
shadow minnow
Yes
young pecan
Do you have a redmagic phone or something insane?
shadow minnow
Apart from ultrawide the photos are pretty good, even low light, although the low light is not comparable to cameras like cannon r5 at all, but that’s also mainly because of crazy high ISO that camera has, although this phone has lower smallest iso
shadow minnow
Do you have a redmagic phone or something insane?
iPhone 12 Pro Max
young pecan
Huh.
Pretty cool.
Kinda insane, but still cool.
Not just take an actual camera, tho?
If you’re even bothering to use Lightroom you must have some kind of high quality use for the pics?
shadow minnow
One thing is that I don’t have any use of it, and another that I usually just take pictures randomly when Walking somewhere... camera would be too heavy. Also don’t edit that often in Lightroom, just when I have some picture that imo looks really good, and want to improve it even more, which is not often at all
young pecan
Ah.
Yeah, I getchu. That makes sense.
Have you looked into the few modular phones about?
One of them can actually be 40% by mass camera. It’s nutty.
shadow minnow
Not really,
One thing that seems really interesting though, and I hope to see in future on some phones are the liquid lenses.
But also don’t get the increasing mp, at least for me, 4K is already high enough, and rather have higher pixel pitch allowing for better low light performance.
vapid zodiac
the issue with phone cameras is that the sensor is just tiny, youre never gonna get as good dynamic range as a dedicated camera
which is why i still dont get why people buy phones "because the camera is so good"
reef patrol
Because unless you're a dedicated photographer, you're not going to be lugging your DSLR with you everywhere.
You always have your phone with you - Fewer photos missed.
vapid zodiac
implying that i go anywhere
crisp granite
I have about 2 photos on my phone.
I can relate
I have 3 photos on my phone
one of my keyboard, one of my PC, and one of the scoreboard of the best BF1 game I've ever had
misty saffron
its a *decent* speaker but for the money you can get better ones
decent is a horrible understatement
vapid zodiac
okay, bad relative to something you could get for the same money
misty saffron
comparisons only focused on specs will always be flawed
vapid zodiac
who said i was basing it off specs?
audio quality is objectively better on a good set of speakers that cost the same as a homehub
misty saffron
let me fix that then
comparisons only focused on audio quality will always be flawed
vapid zodiac
what else are you gonna compare with speakers?
astral haven
It's worse than a chromecast audio + speakers that cost the same price - the price of a chromecast audio
misty saffron
what else are you gonna compare with speakers?
ease of setup and integration with the ecosystem are the two most obvious things
vapid zodiac
i plug in, press setup button, gj done
misty saffron
then you try to figure out where to best put speakers in the room
echo isn't very good
i will have to argue beamforming will always beat "i play sound in one direction"
vapid zodiac
and the homepod is gonna scan your room for acoustics and tell you where exactly to put it?
vapid zodiac
so its just a omnidirectional speaker?
misty saffron
a 7 tweeter speaker with beamforming
vapid zodiac
or is it carefully listening to its output echo, and adjusting to make it sound the same?
misty saffron
yes, that's what the microphones are for too
vapid zodiac
idk why youre trying to defend this, you will get better audio quality out of a dedicated set of speakers that cost the same as a homepod (or less)
misty saffron
that's like saying you don't need a case for the pc because it's cheaper and it works better without one
astral haven
No it's like saying your case doesn't need a spoiler cause it doesn't need to be aerodynamic
shadow minnow
I was also talking about HomePod mini and it’s sound for a price. But even HomePod, pairing two for Dolby atmos
shadow minnow
or is it carefully listening to its output echo, and adjusting to make it sound ...
Also, both homepods have microphones for it, and actually are adjusting their audio while being used
vapid zodiac
idk how youre getting 2 speakers to use atmos considering the standard requires 4 speakers
astral haven
Nah
misty saffron
it's 14 speakers, actually
astral haven
Atmos only requires 2
misty saffron
quite a bit more than 4
shadow minnow
idk why youre trying to defend this, you *will* get better audio quality out of ...
That’s quite likely, however the HomePod mini is really good for its price, more value imo than HomePod
astral haven
No it's not hollow
misty saffron
beamforming is a bit more complicated than you think
astral haven
No it's actually alot easier
shadow minnow
That, it has speaker facing to different sides, beam forming is not as good as having speakers in more locations, but better than nothing
And also, with really good Dolby atmos videos even my phone sounded like producing sound from behind
misty saffron
time to shill the surround sound feature in airpods pro
shadow minnow
Wish I had more use for it
misty saffron
sad apple still hasn't implemented airpods surround sound in apple tv
shadow minnow
But even the phone has pretty good surround sound, and since I 99% use just one AirPod at a time, phones surround audio sounds like magic lol
misty saffron
99% certain ios is their testing ground though
eh, surround sound is always going to sound great in earphones
we only have 2 ear holes
shadow minnow
eh, surround sound is always going to sound great in earphones
Actually, sounded worse on Steelseries arctis 9X than my phone for some reason
But yeah, since humans only have 2 ear holes, you could theoretically create perfect surround sound just with headphones with two speakers
But that would need a lot of measurements and individual adjustment
Wish more companies were doing stuff like Sony with ps5 audio too
misty saffron
Actually, sounded worse on Steelseries arctis 9X than my phone for some reason <...
my guess is in ear is very much different than next to ear
shadow minnow
Does not have to be as long as audio from one earcup does not travel to the other one, and if done correctly
astral haven
Actually, sounded worse on Steelseries arctis 9X than my phone for some reason <...
Steelseries is awful
You need good precision (imaging) and that's not a cheap thing to do
shadow minnow
Adjusting one headset for one person, you just need microphones in ears of the person, in earcups, and play some sounds, and theoretically with possible help of AI, after some time, delays and frequencies should be possible to be adjusted for the person for not such a high price, with not lot of time spent, even though it would not maybe be as precise
cursive summit
Is that the last of us?
pale sigil
ye
cursive summit
So, how did someone get the framerate to be unlocked?
pale sigil
dev menu
misty saffron
read as "physics is tied to framerate" :^)
wheat plume
when the Ubuntu Mate main dev replies to you....
ashen spindle
who?
misty saffron
when the Ubuntu Mate main dev replies to you....
you can tell that guy has a great neckbeard
ashen spindle
oh so just some distro dev
ashen spindle
I mean, you shared it like it's someone special who barely replies or so xD
pale sigil
misty saffron
I mean, you shared it like it's someone special who barely replies or so xD
my girlfriend
ashen spindle
I said someone special 
misty saffron
then it's @crisp granite
cursive summit
https://mrpl.me/I24082b_rfc9.mp4
Am I seeing things or is there horrendous motion blur
crisp granite
then it's <@!449275309909344266>
OwO
pale sigil
Am I seeing things or is there horrendous motion blur
that and film grain
cursive summit
I mean you don't need to understand the hieroglyphics to fathom what the talk is all about
ashen spindle
or just linkk the english version instead 😛 https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-allegedly-launches-may-25th-rtx-3070-ti-early-june
cursive summit
JPY > ENG
ashen spindle
that site is chinese 
cursive summit
ashen spindle
wheat plume
wtf he doing with this OP AF computer?
RTX 3090 and AMD threadripper
ashen spindle
think I see the issue then
wheat plume
what issue?
ashen spindle
oh you just meant he is bad at the game?
wheat plume
Yes, he doesnt play games
hes trying this due to hype
He can barely walk around xd
ashen spindle
how is anyone supposed to think that when you open up by mentioning his pc specs xD