🔌│tech

[misty saffron]

charge ridiculous fucking prices for something competitors are doing for barely anything

[cursive summit]

From EU

[reef tundra]

Its just an electromagnet activating and deactivating some plate

[cursive summit]

Deva doesn't have the issues He 400i has

It's just a solid headphone

So that's your chance of getting a good one

[wheat plume]

WAIT.... the HE in the HifiMan headphones stands for High End :')
ok then nice

[cursive summit]

So yeah Deva can be used in BT or wired mode

Which is kinda sick value

I just don't know if I want the Sundaras more

Or fucking hell, just save up for a year and buy the Susvaras

[wheat plume]

this thing the BT adapter?

[cursive summit]

Ye

[wheat plume]

E

[cursive summit]

Wtf Wooting

I pressed the mode key by accident

[wheat plume]

Wooting High End

[cursive summit]

And it disabled the Y key

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-sports-e-ea-meme-gif-14922519

[cursive summit]

Fuck EE, nobody wants EE games

[wheat plume]

I like Mirror's Edge tho

[cursive summit]

Sleeeedgheemeeer geeemees presents: Ceel Oeef Dooteee

[wheat plume]

haha

[reef tundra]

They were the shit bruh

in 2005 or so

[misty saffron]

looks like dutch

[wheat plume]

oof

yeh

[cursive summit]

Fuck, 230$ for the Devas

[wheat plume]

@cursive summit the Deva's look like Noctua fans but headphones

[cursive summit]

i kinda want them

But I can't afford them rn

Fuck me

[reef tundra]

NOCTUAS ARE GREAT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[misty saffron]

once again

[wheat plume]

:P

[misty saffron]

just get a homepod

easy

[wheat plume]

homepod not headphones

[reef tundra]

remove your ear drums ez

[misty saffron]

just move out and you won't need headphones

[wheat plume]

totally not playing music with my speakers as we speak

Why pacman show you whatever this text file is when you upgrade certain packages?
A new user wont know how to exit this by pressing Q

or is a paru thing? idek

[crimson wigeon]

Pacman only does binary packages so paru whatever that is

[wheat plume]

ahh right

Paru is the new yay

cause yay is abandoned now

blurring out the bluetooth device list... interesting

[misty saffron]

probably has one of those bluetooth sex toys

[wheat plume]

LOL

[cursive summit]

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/hifiman-deva.24334/

The reviews say this is a really damn good headphone

[reef tundra]

Since when?

[cursive summit]

I just don't know if it's "good enough"

Also fuck is "USB dac connection"

[misty saffron]

same question, pretty sure people still use heroin

or what was it

cocaine

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-well-good-luck-with-that-raise-a-glass-gif-15803896

[pale sigil]

16% battery

Gg me leaving the house with 20% battery

[wheat plume]

what battery capacity?

[pale sigil]

4000

[wheat plume]

oh same as my redmi note 5 pro

my new phone has 5200

[pale sigil]

Have no plans to upgrade

Anytime soon

It's only a year old

LIES

[wheat plume]

Also lies xd

Using it as hotspot

[pale sigil]

Desperate times...

[wheat plume]

oh no

[misty saffron]

4000? hah

[pale sigil]

I like what ios does

Tells you the lifespan

@misty saffron oh is that your max lifespan now?

3500

[misty saffron]

well ios by default only tells you battery health in percentage

that’s a tweak

[reef patrol]

Something something Apple won't let YOU swap the battery xD

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-mustache-laughing-meme-funny-gif-17662591

Like its going to be honest

[misty saffron]

it is, actually

[reef tundra]

Taking apple at face value?

[wheat plume]

why is dimmed lighter?

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tableflip-angry-gif-4849879

evga just responded

ye no problem we can pay customs

5 fucking days late

[wheat plume]

...

[crisp granite]

Brexit

I honestly thought it was a joke at first

but it's real, and now that it's happened, you guys are suffering through it

[wheat plume]

I am looking back at my previous Java exam about graphs

Had to make a test method for a method we created earlier

Im proud of myself for figuring them out and making them work cause it took me like half hour to figure out the code she gave us cause she only uses one or two character variable names .-.

[pale sigil]

love

paste the code here

not via screenshot

-_-

[fair gull]

today i got a call from erfurt in germany. am germany and company is also german located in germany. first hint that smth was off: english speaking caller. second hint: heavy indian accent. third hint: supposedly from microsoft. fourth hint: we as a tech company have gotten the varus and are in great need of "microsofts" help. so heres what i did: i said goodbyeeeee bye byeeee. hung up. they called back. i greeted them as before. the dude instantly goes "are u crazy motherfucker?" and i just hang up instantly.

best scam call ever

[crisp granite]

[wheat plume]

:') oh

[crisp granite]

ngl

[umbral knot]

scammer get scammed

[crisp granite]

you've blown your cover if you greet someone with "Are you crazy, motherfucker?"

[wheat plume]

:P

[chrome estuary]

I think my favourite scam call ever was, "We're calling to inform you that a lawsuit has been placed on your name and social security number by the IRS and a warrant has been put out for your arrest." I hung up right then and there laughing

[crimson wigeon]

Have you ever been to the south border of Texas? We found an abandoned car and inside it blood and drug residue

[zenith sonnet]

Like phones? Or operating systems?

[zenith sonnet]

What does the Deva do better than the Sundara?

[wheat plume]

not OS :P

[cursive summit]

Ehh not much. It's just a bit warmer sounding

Other than that, it comes with a BT/AMP/DAC included

Sundara is still in theory the better purchase

But requires higher budget

[zenith sonnet]

Well, not really though?
Bought two for 330 each just recently

[wheat plume]

Ive no clue how to do anything and they guy said hed ring today to go over things and he didnt and now hes telling me the cvlient wants an update n monday and AGHH IDK HOW TO MAKE THE WHOLE CODE WORK

[zenith sonnet]

Crunch time

Better learn it early, and well

[ashen spindle]

so uh, you didn't consider to hit him up the entire day asking when he wants to go over things?

[wheat plume]

I did

He wasnt online until 4:45

[pale sigil]

Another one bites the dust

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/mmuzja/bought_new_oculus_quest_2_got_banned_in_fb_when/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[crisp granite]

wow

not buying an oculus rift S then

I genuinely was going to buy one

but not if I have to put up with this shit as well

[ashen spindle]

I dont think you should make a decision based on what 1/10000 people might see

[crisp granite]

still

just one more strike against it

[reef tundra]

Still, getting banned of facebook and hardware becoming paperweight is a little dependent

[ashen spindle]

ok so jailbreak it and ignore the FB connection all together

[crisp granite]

I don't want that because a new rift S would cost as much as all my peripherals

[reef tundra]

You should not have to break its firmware to use it

[crisp granite]

and if it's an expensive paperweight because of something out of my control, I don't want it

[crisp granite]

and that

that bothers me

a lot

that also kills warranty

[ashen spindle]

do they even still sell the rift?

[crisp granite]

rift S

[ashen spindle]

thought they stopped production a while ago

yes

[wheat plume]

my sister's computer.....Mine is almost as dusty tbf

[crisp granite]

my GPU cost $800

new rift S was $550 CAD iirc

[ashen spindle]

it really shouldn't cost more, if we are just talking about tracking and not included graphics

[reef tundra]

little fire hazard but ok

[crisp granite]

oh my god

clean that

[wheat plume]

She is... xd

I hate the fucking PSU cables

all mustard and green color

[crisp granite]

I'm gonna have a coughing fit just looking at it

dust does that to me

[ashen spindle]

how many years was that not cleaned...

[reef tundra]

also dont spin the fans when they are connected to pcb it might kill everything

With air

[wheat plume]

no clue

Her whole house is ghetto af

[crisp granite]

is that thatch flooring?

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/putting-out-fire-vacuum-fire-fire-burn-gif-14332202

[crisp granite]

ew

[wheat plume]

its a little thing she puts the computer on cause the actual floor has carpet

[crisp granite]

ah

so a sheet of MDF or something

[wheat plume]

no idea xd

[crisp granite]

that entire picture scares me lana

and it's not even that hard to fix

[reef tundra]

The fuck is that recipticle from

[crisp granite]

outlet cover plate and a fucking vacuum

[reef tundra]

nema 17?

[crisp granite]

call me crazy

[reef tundra]

Brrrrrr

nema 17

[crisp granite]

but I hate those automatic vacuums

ew

american standards

and canadian standards as well

cringe

[reef tundra]

Is that the weird US one with blatent safety issues

Those are fucking shit

Best ones are the UK ones. keep people as far as possible from mains

in the 40s equipment came with no plug

Also the lack of earth pin bothers me a fuck ton

[crisp granite]

yeah

[wheat plume]

The socket on my wall is tilted and it bothers me

[crisp granite]

that looks normal to me tbh

[reef tundra]

Arcing and ground fault detection

[wheat plume]

the right pair is tilted left

[crisp granite]

so, the person who installed them did a shit job

at least it's functional and hasn't caught fire yet

[wheat plume]

I need to label those, the second one is my PC and the 1st and 3rd are the monitors...

but I forgot that one day and powered off my PC by accident

[crisp granite]

and the fourth is your...?

[wheat plume]

Speakers

idk

I dont think you can get a shield with 4 socket slots

that might be it

not sure, sometimes they arent there

[reef tundra]

The switch can be useful to prevent the pins from welding themselves to the terminal and causing a fire. But you do have to use it and switch it off

No, UK spec

[wheat plume]

it seems only in semi modern places that they have switches

:')

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-hey-its-gonna-be-okay-dwayne-johnson-gif-10003922

[wheat plume]

CaN YOu HOtSWaP A SAtA HArD DRivE WHIlE THe COMpuTer is On?

[crisp granite]

go ahead

[reef tundra]

If you unmount it first

[crisp granite]

lose that data

[wheat plume]

its not mounted xd

[crisp granite]

you go, girl

[wheat plume]

and no data on it

[crisp granite]

hotswap sata SSD POG

[wheat plume]

sitting idle lel

[reef tundra]

If its not mounted you could remove them hotswap style but the connector wont like it much and they are already rated at 25 insertions

[wheat plume]

I need to fuly power down cause I got to trace the sata cable to the motherboard so I know what one I need to unplug

[crisp granite]

you know what else is rated at 25 insertions?

[wheat plume]

SHUSH!

[ashen spindle]

just unplug it at the drive and leave the cable there?

[reef tundra]

The demon-core?

[wheat plume]

thats ok to do?

[ashen spindle]

no need to find a place to put the cable then so why not

not the cleanest way though

[reef tundra]

Also put a shunt between 12v and gnd

The magic smoke is eummm magic

[misty saffron]

your mom

😂😂😂👌👌👌👌

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/michaelscott-wink-yes-ok-gif-13235466

[crisp granite]

actually that one got tested, it does 100 million

[reef tundra]

You bought the super deluxe edition? pog. Great investment

[wheat plume]

wot?!

10TB SSD for 180 dollar?

[pale sigil]

Doubt it 🤣

[wheat plume]

same...

[cursive summit]

I think he meant 1TB

Or a 10TB HDD, but even then those cost far above 200$

[wheat plume]

he

xd

[cursive summit]

PRONOUNS ARE HARD THESE DAYS AIGHT

[misty saffron]

jailbreaking a tv is the most 2021 thing

[pale sigil]

Nice jailbreak

[wheat plume]

hmm

[cursive summit]

What's the point of jailbreaking a TV

[pale sigil]

You've been able to of it for years hollow

Lol

[ashen spindle]

so just ask for a link of the "10tb ssd"

[umbral knot]

has anybody jailbroken an oculus quest

it runs on a modified android so it might be possible

[cursive summit]

Um

There were rumours somebody did

But I have never seen anyone with one

The exploit that allows to jailbreak quest 2 got patched extremely quickly

[reef tundra]

Imagine having to break firmware to make it into something usable

wacky ideas

[ashen spindle]

shouldn't ever be the case, but if there is no other option?

[reef tundra]

The Old good days where outlaws were numerous

[wheat plume]

hmm, I remove the HDD and now gnoem disks is showing me the CD Drive instead?

cause before I removed the HDD

it didnt show the CD drive

??

[reef tundra]

sudo rm / -rf

remove gnome to fix

[pale sigil]

XD

[wheat plume]

xd

[reef tundra]

lsblk

all you need in a nifty command

[wheat plume]

wot sr0

[reef tundra]

Some kind of read only memory, eh

[wheat plume]

I dont have a cd with me to play it

damn

Maybe cause I had to replug in the CD drive

[crisp granite]

calling bullshit

your sis is pulling your leg, lana

[wheat plume]

probably

she conveniently cant find the link anymore

[crisp granite]

yeah

[reef tundra]

What a fucking liar dude! What a fucking weasely, little, liar dude. What a fucking weasely little LIAR dude. Holy shit dude. Holy fucking shit dude. Literally lying! Still lying to his audience!

[crisp granite]

[reef tundra]

[halcyon moss]

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/04/surely-we-can-do-better-than-elon-musk/

[timid chasm]

Depends on your location, I guess, but a 10TB HDD does not cost far above $200

I paid $196 for my 12 TB which was a good sale but even on an avg sale it wouldn't be "far above"

[cursive summit]

I guess so actually

[timid chasm]

You can usually get "external" hard drives cheaper

which is an easy shuck typically

[cursive summit]

Hm, I wonder if buying this thing + Intel's optane would be a better choice

For storage

Than just an SSD

[timid chasm]

For what use?

[cursive summit]

Consumer use

Gaming prolly

File storage

[timid chasm]

Personally, I'm still not sold on SSDs for gaming but I don't need the insta-load times and can deal with the occasional hiccup if it causes it

for storage, hdd all the way

[fickle ore]

get a ramdrive kekw

[halcyon moss]

https://tweakers.net/interne-harde-schijven/vergelijken/#filter:PYzBCsIwEET_Zc5F1qJV8wEFD576BSFdZaFtyiYHseTfu6HgaXjzhtkQdWTthacRDmnlIG8JPktc0BxyiJrN-RT-jc2etr-1XYPVf3iQH8NdyUgl8EsWOIN618uUWRPchjM9aszV4k5EJ7LH2X8N28vBpZQd

[wheat plume]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/09/3f1a45f331b09949.mp4 aww :D

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

[wheat plume]

huh?

[wheat plume]

XD

[latent mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avfGY5V8csI

The Wooting One is in the chart!

Time for the 9001Hz pulling rate keyboard 🙂

[ivory geyser]

Kinda wanna see how the Wooting HE will score on that.

I have a feeling it will be rather brutal.

Since it has a possible 0.1 mm actuation

[reef patrol]

Getting used to TKL is... rough.

I keep trying to use my non-existent numpad to type numbers... and My right arrow key is mistaken for enter xD

But I gotta say... These bobagum switches are pure joy to type on.

[old marlin]

which weighting did you get btw

[reef patrol]

52g

[cursive summit]

I'm hoping for Heresy to come into stock

Evergreen

I mean perhaps Europe for them is just an unimportant market

Look at Drop

Doesn't care about EU one bit

The only good audio stores that handle EU well are the ones BASED in EU

Like, AKG and Beyer

[pale sigil]

Hehe the amount of times I tapped my desk when I got my wooting one xD

They literally had an EU version for a while, didn't advertise at all and made products overpriced

Oops

Wrong quote

[pale sigil]

This

People didn't even realise the EU version existed because drop didn't advertise

It's a huge market, they just won't get their finger out of their assm

Their pricing was insane, it cost more to order on their eh site than the US one

Including customs etc

[cursive summit]

Lol what

[pale sigil]

I mean,

[cursive summit]

So, yeah

[pale sigil]

Sure

If you think 700m+ are gonna be customers for drop

🤣

[cursive summit]

No but you'll still have a lot of those people interested in your products

[pale sigil]

For sure

I'll have you know, 2!

[cursive summit]

Wdym "proxy"

Where are you located?

[pale sigil]

Finnyland

[cursive summit]

Hm

I live in Lithuania

[pale sigil]

Wait

The fuck are you in about London

XD

[cursive summit]

94108

LT-94108 I think

[pale sigil]

If it was London we'd be paying import fees etc

It's just no longer doable

[cursive summit]

If the Heresy actually works, I might want it

I'll have cash in about a week so, I like the sound of that

You going to keep the Modi?

So, how much do you want for it?

[pale sigil]

Over 9000

[cursive summit]

Sounds like scam

[pale sigil]

Tino is a boomer

He doesn't scam

[cursive summit]

That'd be incredibly useful

Then I'd just need the Sundaras and a dac

[pale sigil]

Am I missing something here

That pride isn't really great

Ye sorry

[cursive summit]

Callum I might be a jackass, but I know humility

No pride here

[pale sigil]

I guess

[cursive summit]

Heresy afaik is one of the best amps for that price

Nobody's talking about the magni 3+, usually

Other than Ares

[old marlin]

topping L30 though

??

the L30 had some problems early on

not related to frying itself though

all units on sale now are fixed though

also

it is a solid state amp

hard to break

topping E30

[cursive summit]

I really dig that Zen 4 with Navi2

So, where's Van Gogh?

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Render-Less @wheat plume

[wheat plume]

Oo
I don't have AMD gpu though

Yes

But I'm happy for now

[crimson wigeon]

Great news for the 4 people with RDNA2 GPUs

[wheat plume]

this login screen is pretty

[ashen spindle]

so amd on linux now has what nvidia already had since 20xx launch interresting choice of title

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/c_KPUV-V01k

[lethal wasp]

how do you secure/separate the admin account on windows 10? do I HAVE to have two accounts?

account management is so much more convoluted with how much they push online accounts :/

[halcyon moss]

you can set the user access thingy to be more strict and ask for permission more often

[reef patrol]

So don't use them.

And yeah UAC is the answer to not having two accounts

[lethal wasp]

I was crypto jacked and I want to harden my security

I still have no idea how/why it happened

[reef patrol]

You don't.

You take backups.

And make the backup tool not allow mass backups to deter crypto overwriting.

[lethal wasp]

I presume the backup can't stay attached?

[reef patrol]

That all depends on how it interfaces with the PC.

I wouldn't leave it plugged in as a drive.

Network attached controlled by a background app is preferable.

[lethal wasp]

still, it infected system32 directly, with no way to trace back to what caused it, is that just inevitible or would it have been avoided if I was on a non admin account?

I think I saved the scan report somewhere before reinstalling

[reef patrol]

Crypto tools just encrypt whatever they can grab.

[lethal wasp]

I'm not talking about cryto

wait

[reef patrol]

I mean... you were 😛

[lethal wasp]

I used the wrong term

I mean currency!

[reef patrol]

Oh a MINER

[lethal wasp]

YE

[reef patrol]

Antivirus.

[lethal wasp]

I had bitdefender installed

it nuked it without me realising

[reef patrol]

No amount of admin control can prevent any app from sucking up resources.

[lethal wasp]

and overwrote a load of system32 files

no like

it got DEEP

it wasn't just sat there

[reef patrol]

Yep.

It knew vulnerabilities. No getting around those really.

[lethal wasp]

I probably don't have the best practices and I'm feeling a bit paranoid after

95% of it is don't click retarded stuff lul for sure

but there's that 5% where you get nuked from orbit seemingly

and I wanna mitigate that

do you think it deleted it's own source file to be less tracable?

oh wow there's .txt embed?

[zenith sonnet]

More like 0.05%
Somebody would need a reason to target you explicitly

[pale sigil]

Wait

embedded

wot

[pale sigil]

when did they add this

oh wow

[reef patrol]

👀

[pale sigil]

hats nice

[wheat plume]

That isnt a funny joke

cause its not a joke

(comment on a video about JingOS, a chinese Linux distro built specifically to run on tablets with touchscreens)

[misty saffron]

https://i.imgur.com/poQxTe3.jpg

[wheat plume]

ooof

[ashen spindle]

I'll just continue with my decision to not read any youtube comments for anything, seems to work well so far

can only recommend that method

[zenith sonnet]

There's rarely a time when there are good Youtube comments

Battle(non)sense's stuff is one of the few exceptions where I ever saw actually good threads

[reef patrol]

I had this weird cookie related issue for a week where YouTube just wouldn't show the comment section at all. Just blank page space.

It was bliss 😂

[ashen spindle]

neat lol

[fair gull]

the yt comment is why i dont use linux

sad it didnt start with "Well actually"

[wheat plume]

all the Arch linux supremists are butthurt over the official install script

"OH NO!! ALL THE NOOBS ARE COMING TO ARCH, WE WILL NO LONGER FEEL SUPERIOR"

[crisp granite]

I'm one of them n00bs

brace for impact

[wheat plume]

xd

[halcyon moss]

goddamn cowsay

[wheat plume]

right? XD

[reef tundra]

Just call them all unix machines

[proud nacelle]

right because reading documention is sooo hard /s

or hell most idiots users will just watch a youtube video.

[vagrant pagoda]

um my pine phone runs arch, ubuntu, and manjaro fine.

that person has no idea what they are talking about

[wheat plume]

I wonder will there be a day when Linux phones get actually good hardware

[vagrant pagoda]

pinephone makes for a fine DD

[wheat plume]

Cause 2gb ram and a slower cpu than a raspberry pi isn't great

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

the pinephone has the same chipset as the pine SBC

[wheat plume]

Yes yes

[vagrant pagoda]

its more than enough for phone and phone web

[wheat plume]

I want a Linux phone with the same power you can get with an Android phone

[vagrant pagoda]

what would you do with all that power?

[wheat plume]

Not lag like fuck

[vagrant pagoda]

you used one?

[wheat plume]

Yes

[vagrant pagoda]

there isnt much lag to it

[wheat plume]

I've used Manjaro on one

Super lag

[vagrant pagoda]

software has come a long way

[wheat plume]

Ubuntu touch was pretty nice though

I like the swipe based UI

[vagrant pagoda]

i wish the pinebook pro as a dock for the phone

like what asus dose

pinebook pro with 4g would be the best remote term on the market

[crimson wigeon]

I think the limited hardware specs can be a good thing as it forces the developers to actually write efficient software... hopefully...

[ashen spindle]

hahahaha

good one

[crimson wigeon]

And then when the time comes to get better hardware blam it'll fly... I wish

[vagrant pagoda]

works for consoles

[ashen spindle]

yeah but only because those specs dont increase over time like phones

a console is stuck at one config for like 5+ years

[zenith sonnet]

I think the task of writing efficient software lies with the software developers
And generally I'd blame lack of expertise for inefficient software

[vagrant pagoda]

back in the early days it was a big deal

[crimson wigeon]

Think it's just crunch, lack of time and managers forcing new new features constantly because who cares about boring shit like "optimization" just tell the plebs to get better hardware lool

[vagrant pagoda]

to much time is spent making games look good

and not play good

look at goose game

its amazing

but techically simple

[zenith sonnet]

Meh
If an engineer does a poor job, they do a poor job
Whether a manager is breathing down their neck or not

[vagrant pagoda]

nintindo proves it all the time

having the highest end graphics isnt required to make amazing games

[zenith sonnet]

Nintendo is a mixed bag. They make amazing games, and really poor ones inbetween

But few remember the latter ones

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah they are also a massive publisher

[ivory geyser]

Is this some kind of a joke?

Yes please, lets gatekeep all the good ideas behind forced hardware limitations

[crisp granite]

sounds like a plan

a bad plan

but a plan nonetheless

[crimson wigeon]

Not really, more like I look at the PP and I don't see why you couldn't get something pretty snappy working with that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ivory geyser]

PP?

[crimson wigeon]

Pinephone

[ivory geyser]

I have no idea what that even is

[crimson wigeon]

Oh

[ivory geyser]

@wheat plume isnt it possible to flash some linux distro on an android phone?

[crimson wigeon]

postmarketOS! Unfortunately the experience for most is gonna be very scuffed because these SOCs have incredibly shitty support outside of whatever Android they're meant to run

[ivory geyser]

Also, kinda curious: What is wrong with running actual Android on phones?

[crimson wigeon]

Google, probably

[wheat plume]

Ubuntu touch only officially support a number of phones
The same for other distros

[zenith sonnet]

I think the biggest issue with software optimisation is that it's all very nontransparent
Nobody can see the code, nobody can point out errors

[ivory geyser]

Just use something like LineageOS.

[crimson wigeon]

I remember testing Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy S2 back in the day 😄 the glory days of Android phone tinkering when there were a shitton of different ROMs to flash

[ivory geyser]

I dont know how to feel about all this when making a desktop Electron app... while doing my damn hardest to optimize it via not abusing memory and squishing any memory leaks that pop up lol

[wheat plume]

My previous phone still has a shit ton you can use today

Mix 2S from Xiaomi
I tried so many xd

[crimson wigeon]

Ah yes I remember when MIUI was just one of many that you could flash on

[proper crystal]

Sounds like an oxymoron

[crimson wigeon]

Nice!

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilx9aHrfrQY

Those are some interesting numbers

[astral haven]

Adored lol

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet tldr?

[zenith sonnet]

Esports titles at competitive settings see a much larger uplift than the average reviewer's suite going from Zen 2 to Zen 3

Something in the range of 30-40% it looks without actually comparing the numbers

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet not a surprise to me 😄 thats why I touted the zen 3 as an esports processor since its launch

good to get a confirmation

[zenith sonnet]

Varies a lot by game though

Apex seems to see no change whatsoever, while other games may see as much as a 80% improvement

[fickle ore]

apex probably has a engine framerate cap

this is exactly what framerate cap would show tbf

@zenith sonnet yep someone confirmed its source engine so gets probably defaulted to 300 max

[zenith sonnet]

But the 99% lows don't improve, either

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet then it's very likely it's RAM and/or GPU bottleneck

But the test is fucked for showing the 99p since its capped at 300 fps, so whatever throttling there is, its probably shown in the 99p numbers aswell

[zenith sonnet]

I always wonder why nobody does 1 ‰ lows?

[fickle ore]

I thought 99 percentile is 1% lows O.o

[zenith sonnet]

I also learned that there needs to be a space between the number and the % sign

[zenith sonnet]

That's right

I guess you could say 0.1 % lows?

Oh right, GN does those

[fickle ore]

Ahh, everything shows in them, windows background tasks, engine hangs and etc so they can present a misleading picture

[zenith sonnet]

GN does always display margin of error, and do at least 5 runs to rule those out

[wheat plume]

oh, the official arch install script can do partioning

[wheat plume]

it failed install

server timed out

welp :/

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/aIAZt9UH5ko

[pale sigil]

The fuck

[reef patrol]

Well that's unusual. Who did you piss off 😄

Guess you'll have to call up DPD tomorrow and ask WTF has been going on.

[pale sigil]

I mean

If they lose it idc

I get my money back

XD

But ye

Need this shit sorting out

Went my collateral back

[wheat plume]

oh.. yeah

no suprise here

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore have you been able to test if new agesa actually fixed usb issues?

GB are still missing latest agesa so I couldnt try it yet

[reef patrol]

Holding off with updating my BIOS till I have Lekker. Then I can test if it's fixed or not 😄

[ashen spindle]

does your board have a 1.2.0.2 bios already?

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle not released yet been waiting for that thing

[reef patrol]

Beta.

.1 actually.

[ashen spindle]

yea .1 patch A is what GB also have

but cba trying a half fix so im wating fo r.2

[reef patrol]

Ughh.... I just googled it.

.2 is the actual fix 😦

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, GB BIOS' are in shambles

It's so frustrating

[reef patrol]

ASRock here but yeah...

Oh dear!

[crisp granite]

dear god

tight rations boys

[reef patrol]

One GPU in every pot days are over.

Rationing coupons are being air dropped as we speak. People are already calling dibs on weekend usage.

[vagrant pagoda]

Wish there was a way to make watches not all slimy with sweat

[shadow minnow]

I really hope ima be able to get GPU at least till the end of July.

[shadow minnow]

Well I really wanna at least have 1 months of summer holidays to actually do something with the pc. Even if it aorus waterforce wb 3080 non ti

[pale sigil]

i mean

[vast moss]

I ought to check on ASUS

ASUS has a beta version of the BIOS available, at least on my mainboard. Not sure if it's worth trying to flash since this is my main computer and I'm only familiar with EZ Flash, so if the board goes down I'd not be sure what to do

[astral haven]

You have bios flashback?

Cause for that you just need to download the program, unzip, run the exe, and throw the renamed bios file on the flash drive

[vast moss]

I've updated my BIOS using a tool ASUS calls EZ Flash, which you use while the computer is powered on. I haven't had to do a BIOS flashback starting from off though. I don't know if my board comes with a dedicated button for it.

[astral haven]

Flashback requires a dedicated button

Ez flash is just like a normal bios update

[vast moss]

That's what I thought. I don't have a flashback button on my board, so my only chance at flashing a BIOS is from the BIOS itself.

[pale sigil]

Corrector erecto

[vast moss]

So basically, while ASUS does have a beta BIOS with AGESA 1.2.0.2 available, it is a beta, so if something goes wrong, my board is effectively bricked.

[astral haven]

Eh usually agesa issues = crashing randomly in windows and games

[vast moss]

I'm downloading the BIOS anyway in case I do decide it's worth trying.

[edgy hull]

bios programmer be pretty nice tho

[vast moss]

?

[edgy hull]

https://www.amazon.com/Organizer-Socket-Adpter-Programmer-CH341A/dp/B07R5LPTYM

reflash old bios if new bios bricks ur board

[vast moss]

ah

[vagrant pagoda]

you can flash bios in windows

[slender rain]

You should hear music while doing that

[vagrant pagoda]

that isnt 3.3v complaint, so i wouldnt use it on modern stuff

[vast moss]

Can you actually? I’ve flipped to primarily using Linux again, but I still have a Windows install handy for when I can’t get something working in Linux

[pale sigil]

why did he have to make a video on it https://youtu.be/imp3fyEc6UM

[vast moss]

Is there some reason?

[slender rain]

Yep

I did a BIOS update once while listening to music. Never again.

[vast moss]

Bricked your board?

[slender rain]

No, but it sounded pretty awful

[vagrant pagoda]

it causes weird studdering and such

[slender rain]

Maybe it's different with UEFI based BIOS. But back then it caused stuttering like hell

[edgy hull]

it was more of an example

[vagrant pagoda]

you really should close everything when it happened

[vast moss]

ah

Just applied the update and nothing immediately seems out of the ordinary. I had to change my BIOS settings, but after that, I was able to boot into an OS just fine.

[latent mural]

anyone knowledgable in c#?

[glossy flicker]

Hi, does the wooting work on ps5?

[reef patrol]

As a normal keyboard? Should. As a controller? No.

Might need to disable the Analog modes before plugging it in.

[reef patrol]

And please don't spam several channels with the same question my dude...

[wheat plume]

That's the second person to do that today

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/Forest_Reviews/status/1381495899982008325

Forest (@Forest_Reviews)

If you want proof of the #cmos issue with ps4's then heres video. I took out the battery and put the ps4 back together. The result, no physical or digital games work offline without connecting to Sony's server. ALSO may cause game install data corruption @dark1x @Dachsjaeger pt1 https://t.co/ltCmh6M6rH

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Twitter · Apr 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

https://twitter.com/Forest_Reviews/status/1381498626124480512?s=19

Forest (@Forest_Reviews)

Pt2 After reinstalling Toukiden 2, the same thing happens. Without the #cmos battery installed both Atelier Ryza 2 and Toukiden 2 must connect to the server in order for them to work, even though these are physical disc. gives error CE-30391-6 @dark1x @Dachsjaeger @Food4Dogs https://t.co/k9TImm36Qb

Twitter · Apr 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

[vast moss]

In the past 24h, I think there were three or four that did

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit similar to the disc drive

If you break it and replace it then you can't do anything

Including update

[cursive summit]

Kinda anti-consumer

[vast moss]

Serialization, I take it

This is why we need R2R laws

[pale sigil]

Ye I had to use the pcb from the disc drive and transfer it to a new one

To update xD

[reef patrol]

I mean requiring a new authentication token because the CMOS battery is changed is... hardly an issue? Until they shut down that console permanently.

At which point you should be able to "pirate" everything you already own fairly easily. But I see the argument.

The whole serialized hardware is a much more serious complaint.

[old marlin]

considering how close the PS4 and PS5 are software wise the servers should keep running for a long while

BUT

nobody has 100% uptime

especially home users

[reef patrol]

You're not wrong.

[old marlin]

so if your battery fails

and you don't know it

and you decide to turn on the PS4 and play some singleplayer game cause internet ain't working atm for you

you can't

I can see why digital games would be blocked obv

[pale sigil]

Meh

Jailbreak ftw

[reef patrol]

Yeah that's fair - A disc based game should run regardless.

[old marlin]

but blocking physical games makes little sense since they won't ever need a connection if you had a battery

[cursive summit]

You just can't really jailbreak a PS4

[old marlin]

you shouldn't NEED to mod your console

[cursive summit]

Iirc Xbox X jailbreak was never found

PS4 only super early models can be jailbroken

[pale sigil]

I do anyway xD

[misty saffron]

because there is no incentive to hack an xbox one

you can run homebrew for $2

[cursive summit]

I'm so glad that Microsoft actually allows to run code

[misty saffron]

which is the cost of a microsoft developer account

[old marlin]

the series x is just an insane value for consoles

if you ask me

game pass alone makes it worthwhile

[cursive summit]

Yep

[old marlin]

if you consider it's upcost over regular online fees

which are still dumb

but like

what are you gonna do

[cursive summit]

Which is why if I get the chance, I'll snatch the XSX

[old marlin]

if you own the console you are tied to them anyways

[cursive summit]

I also like that you can just run code on it

With the sandbox feature or whatever it was called

[vast moss]

Not quite related, but am I the only person that thought the Series was just an expansion of the One line when it was announced?

[misty saffron]

😎

[old marlin]

not really

like

eh

a bit

[pale sigil]

Nice grill

[old marlin]

you can run all the old stuff with it

use all the old accesories

but the new stuff only works with the new console

so similar to the PS5 and PS4 in software regards

[cursive summit]

Show pictures of ping pong balls floating

[vast moss]

I didn’t really pay too much attention to launch, but I saw the S and X in the names and thought they were still Xbox One because of its S and X skews

[misty saffron]

i don't have a ping pong ball tf

[old marlin]

hardware wise the series x is just impressive

quite honestly

[cursive summit]

RDNA2 is sick

[old marlin]

the PS5 has similar chips

[cursive summit]

Now if only we could have RDNA2 APUs for PCs

[old marlin]

but the series x is just faster overall

[vast moss]

Of course, once they launched, I realized they’re a new line of consoles

[old marlin]

and has much better cooling

[misty saffron]

people buying the ps5 are only sony fanboys

[cursive summit]

Isn't PS5 like significantly thermal throttling?

[misty saffron]

change my mind

[old marlin]

well in the end both effectively are windows 10 prebuilts

[cursive summit]

And exclusive hunters

[old marlin]

the VRAM is iirc

also

liquid metal

[misty saffron]

you CANT justify $100 games

[old marlin]

can't wait to see thousands of overheating PS5s after a few years

oh also

PS5 games cost more

for

reasons

[cursive summit]

Eh games are vastly overpriced anyways

[old marlin]

I mean

I would agree

[misty saffron]

i haven't paid for a single game for my series x

[cursive summit]

Plenty of people in the industry are saying consumers are overpaying

[old marlin]

but the main problem is the cut for publishers

[misty saffron]

only game pass which was about $50 total

[old marlin]

the devs still get too little in most cases

sadly

[cursive summit]

Like, Activisions CEO who got a check for 100M or something?

All the money goes to the fucking higher ups

[misty saffron]

fuck i want ramen

[umbral knot]

that is the most relatable sentence I have ever read

[old marlin]

basically

[vast moss]

came out of left field, but interesting anyway

[old marlin]

mind you activision blizzard was/is doing terribly back then

[vast moss]

Semi-related: a certain game company whose name is more positive than they are deliberately marketed their lower cut, claiming it’s better for developers and would lead to lower-priced games. In actuality, prices are the same and that dev money just goes to the publisher’s higher-ups

[old marlin]

you mean the same certain game company that tried to entirely scam a certain scummy phone ocmpany out of their money and lost

while making 1984 references

[vast moss]

Yep

[old marlin]

while trying to manipulate the market on another platform themselves

[reef patrol]

To be fair Apple made those first 😉

[old marlin]

cause "the publishers chooses where people will buy"

[old marlin]

and they were ironic in both cases

at least apple was somewhat in that position when they made them

[reef patrol]

They became what they despised xD

[old marlin]

if you are against right to repair and make 1984 references you esentially became your own meme

[reef patrol]

[old marlin]

btw

germany just invested 700 million in 6G

why tf do they do this

[vast moss]

I think that in a way, both companies were wrong in that battle
30% is a pretty large cut (even if it is industry-standard by now), and only allowing software through official channels “for security reasons” is somewhat understandable but still limiting; however, the publisher deliberately broke the rules and deserve their retribution

[old marlin]

5G was a questionable improvement at best

6G does literally nothing for us

[vast moss]

There are already 6G talks?

[old marlin]

yes

[vast moss]

damn

[old marlin]

apparently terahertz frequencies

with multiple times the speed of 5G

but like

why

completely unneeded in the foreseeable future

and terahertz just makes it a lot less useful

[misty saffron]

meanwhile average internet speed in germany is 50kbps

[old marlin]

^

[crimson wigeon]

To finally get ahead of other countries oh hahahahah as if that's gonna happen

[old marlin]

the only major upside is that the connection itself would be possible with under 1ms delays

but like

you are connected to the internet still

[misty saffron]

5g is utterly retarded

[old marlin]

even the providers are against sellign frequency ranges

[old marlin]

at least it has SOME usecases over 4G

like 6G has literally nothing

[vast moss]

I know the US is pretty good with internet speeds, but I have only ever seen my home network reach 200 KB/s once, maybe twice

[misty saffron]

research into possibilities of cellular working better indoors? no, speed go fast

[old marlin]

the US has problems with data caps

[old marlin]

you could do wide range home connections with 5G for very little money

obv 6G can do that as well

but nobody needs those speeds atm

[crimson wigeon]

But it's 1 G more and supahfast

[old marlin]

and nobody even has that with 5G yet

like

do one thing at a time

[misty saffron]

i'm talking about cellular actually working through thick walls

[old marlin]

and don't build the new tech over the test areas of the old tech

again and again and again

[old marlin]

5G is as good as 4G in that regard

basically

6G would be much worse

[misty saffron]

exactly my point

[old marlin]

since they use terahertz

higher frequency = higher loss

[misty saffron]

i'm no expert in this shit

[ashen spindle]

wtf, got a link?

[misty saffron]

but prioritizing speed over fixing problems like "oops i moved 1 meter to the left and now my 4g doesn't work" is retarded

[old marlin]

which one do you want

there are a couple

[misty saffron]

can 5g at least serve more clients with 1 station?

[old marlin]

https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/kommunikationstechnologie-bund-investiert-700-millionen-euro-in-6g-netz-/27081042.html?ticket=ST-76842-XFkEjd1gJRGgm6xVFABF-ap1

[wheat plume]

Literally my experience in my bedroom, phone drops from 4G to H+ as soon as I move it to the bedside table

[old marlin]

imma just ive you the first one

oh btw

is supposed to be the successor of 5G in 2030

so they giv emoney providers can use up till 2025

that money will totally go to research

[wheat plume]

WHY TF do they want 6G??!! Not even 5G is ready for the masses yet .-.

[misty saffron]

tech companies fail to realize cellular users don't all watch youtube in an open field

[wheat plume]

yeahhhh

[old marlin]

Bundesregierung, can I have 700 million?
to make 6G?
yeeeees
actually pays managers like a boss

[twin hound]

You just have to realize that things progress faster than they used to.. 2G -> 3G -> 4G -> 5G ....

[old marlin]

BUT WITH 5G YOU CAN WATCH 5 4K STREAMS AT ONCE

[old marlin]

there is little to no use case for 5G atm

I guess that making it is necessary

but spending money on 6G before 5G even is somewhat implemented is just stupid

[misty saffron]

but base station can only serve 3 devices reliably

[twin hound]

Smart cities, self-driving cars etc

[misty saffron]

😎

[old marlin]

completely unnecessary

also 6G requires a shitton of basestations

[misty saffron]

people also have to realize most of the features don't require gigabits per second lol

[old marlin]

self driving cars is the biggest meme of all atm

that was the selling point for 5G

[misty saffron]

my dad is a perfect example

[old marlin]

but I bet that in 2030 we won't have interconnected self driving cars

[misty saffron]

thinks he needs at least 300mbps for his online phone game to work well

[old marlin]

heck by 2025 we might get the first decent EVs from companies not called tesla

[twin hound]

someone in 2000 would bet that we wouldnt have handheld PCs in 2010

[old marlin]

ok give me a reason why you would need 5G on the go right now

or in 5 years

mind you

[misty saffron]

streaming fortnite from phone

obviously

[old marlin]

in 5 years will be mass produced EVs essentially for the first time that are not open beta

that is not guessing

that is the official dates for stuff like the ID.5

[misty saffron]

question

why do self driving cars need 5g

[old marlin]

so basically the first things that are not in early development plattofrms

[old marlin]

they would if they were interconnected

which they are not for now

but will be where it will go obv

BUUUT

[misty saffron]

retarded

[old marlin]

the cars themselves should be the connection points

[misty saffron]

you can literally use wifi tech for that

[old marlin]

and not some random antennas

[twin hound]

Why everything has to do with entertainment and watching videos? The communication costs (time) for smart applications is a pain for developers... many apps utilize AI by computing stuff on the cloud

[old marlin]

[twin hound]

The tradeoff between computation-communication is a real problem for professionals that make your stuff work

[misty saffron]

your algorithm is shit if it requires super low latency or super high speeds

[old marlin]

many apps utilize AI by computing stuff on the cloud

name me one

that needs a shitton of data throughput from the end device

to a cloud server

at that point you could just stream the entire UI

even if the end device has a 4K screen 4G would be enough for that

[twin hound]

devices using sensors, for medical reason... hmmm

[old marlin]

your phone could essentially be a thinclient

[twin hound]

ex there is an app for CGM

[misty saffron]

tell me at least one reason why 50ms latency wouldn't be enough

[old marlin]

I work with sensor shit at work

literally what kinda sensors do you need to fully load 4G networking

also

[misty saffron]

human dead because of 50ms latency??

[old marlin]

if you rely on stuff like 4G etc

you might as well just stay home

since the networking points can easily get overloaded

5G did not improve on that

6G will improve on that just by needing a lot more networking points

[twin hound]

what about volunteer computing?

[old marlin]

cause the coverage is worse

[misty saffron]

fun fact, literally couldn't connect to internet near buckingham palace

[old marlin]

on the go?

like

[misty saffron]

people with medical conditions not allowed near the queen

[old marlin]

do you use folding at home on your phone whenever you go around and don't use it?

and even then

you get a pack of data

and work on that

[misty saffron]

volunteer computing on a portable device kekw

[old marlin]

your phone would not even be able to calculate so much data to fully saturate 4G

not by long

[misty saffron]

battery life and thermal efficiency are bigger problems than internet connection speeds

[twin hound]

The thing is you are criticizing technology advances, but you are not offering a better solution.

Well there is also ongoing research about batteries

Look into nuclear powered batteries

[misty saffron]

better solution: develop better algorithms instead of rushing out something completely unnecessary

[old marlin]

there is a better solution

fucking implement the current standard fully

when I go to the train station/mall in my smaller city

I get 4G

but it is completely overburdened

so not even discord messages will load

german network providers don't develop any software or hardware for 6G anyways until 2025

when it is supposed to take over in 2030

so they will just yoink the money

[pale sigil]

Basically 5g here is what 4g was meant to be

XD

[misty saffron]

internet-connected cgm software is also a very bad example by the way

[old marlin]

I still don't get a ton of 4G

and most often when I get them they are overburdened

[misty saffron]

interpolation is a thing

[old marlin]

cause I won't be the only one using it

[twin hound]

Well that's the answer actually

[misty saffron]

extrapolation is also

[twin hound]

They are deploying 5G but you also get the full 4G by them doing that

[misty saffron]

you don't need measurements at these exact points in time

[twin hound]

this*

[old marlin]

yes

[pale sigil]

"super fast 4g"

[old marlin]

that would be a good solution

[old marlin]

if they were to not only deploy 5G where 4G is already deployed

[twin hound]

But that's already happening

[old marlin]

and I have to fear that I don't get a mobile connection in my village in a few years

cause all the old stuff gets shut down

that is actually what is happenign atm for a lot of people in germany

[pale sigil]

Nein!

[twin hound]

Well starlink is also an option

[old marlin]

just 5 years ago I had 0 mobile connection

[twin hound]

But the thing is that there more companies doing that

[old marlin]

when I still lived at my moms place

[twin hound]

are*

[old marlin]

a terrible one mind you

needs a shitton of sattelites

[twin hound]

Well that's not an argument

[old marlin]

the results are not bad for sattelites

[pale sigil]

Just 5 years ago I got my own connection to my room living at my mums place

[misty saffron]

really excited for 5g

[old marlin]

how is that not an argument?

[pale sigil]

Longer than 5 but lols

[twin hound]

Dude look how many satellites

are there

[old marlin]

yes

now every provider on hte world put up a couple hundred more

[pale sigil]

@misty saffron you're Russian so you can't be counted in this argument

Russia is poo

[old marlin]

only 6k up rn

2666 in use atm

[misty saffron]

russia has better cellular networks compared to most of europe

if not all

[twin hound]

I am in Greece and in my cottage I get 2G

[misty saffron]

you're really excited for 5g then aren't you

[twin hound]

and DSL of 2mbps which disconnects like a million times a day

[old marlin]

starlink phase 1 is planned for 1.5k satellites

[twin hound]

we have 5g in athens already

[pale sigil]

Isn't Greece like

Shit

[old marlin]

[pale sigil]

For technical stuff

[old marlin]

greece is like

bankrupt

[misty saffron]

literally the entire point of this argument

[old marlin]

most of all

[misty saffron]

5g in big city just for show

while the rest of the country has 2g

[old marlin]

yea

[twin hound]

well athens has half the population of greece

[old marlin]

exactly what I meant

like

athens had 4G

now they have 5G

[twin hound]

But the thing is

[old marlin]

in germany 2G is mainly shut down by now

[twin hound]

I now get 3g/4g in my cottage

You have to understand that urbanized areas are going to get everything first