🔌│tech

[halcyon moss]

depends also ion the type of update maybe

[wheat plume]

I didnt even apply the new version update yet

[halcyon moss]

do iiiit

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[wheat plume]

I dont wanna risk it breaking the bootloader

Anyway, why tf it take so long to boot?

stayed on the blank screen about 15 seconds today

usually like 6 seconds normally

[halcyon moss]

did it reset the cpu or something?

[wheat plume]

huh?

[ashen spindle]

15 instead of 6? yeah unlikely to mean anything

[wheat plume]

hmm

[reef tundra]

My OS reboots in 30 seconds or so

[wheat plume]

usually takes a little less than that for me

[reef tundra]

but then im also counting my login, which is all typed

[wheat plume]

my login takes as long as windows takes to register I pressed enter

So I can start typing my pin in

[ashen spindle]

enable fast startup if you want it to be faster

[wheat plume]

no, that breaks wifi in Linux

I experienced that first hand

[misty saffron]

linux

there is your problem

[wheat plume]

?

Linux doesnt slow the windows bootup process

xd

[reef tundra]

Did you enable the network service at bootup?

[wheat plume]

other than waiting 5 seconds at the GRUB screen if you dont press enter

[wheat plume]

hm?

[reef tundra]

Go to the configuration file and set that to 0

[wheat plume]

what file?

also, is this on Linux? it works fine

Once I turned fast startup off in Windows

[reef tundra]

sudo nvim /etc/default/grub

[wheat plume]

why?

[reef tundra]

So you can disable that 5 second waiting period

[wheat plume]

I dont want to, its the timeout to lemme choose what OS to boot

It used to be 10 but I changed it

[reef tundra]

you can also set it to 1second or somethin

[wheat plume]

not enough time xd Unless I tell it to auto select the last OS I picked

[crimson wigeon]

I used to have mine be 2 seconds but now it's 4 after too many times of me reacting to it slightly too late

[wheat plume]

yeah xd

[reef tundra]

I have mine set to 1 but even that is never really needed

[wheat plume]

everytime you wanna change OS, you have a game of reactions to play

:') adds extra excitement to your bootup process

[reef tundra]

I believe holding escape or shift while it loads forces grub to load and stop its countdown

[fair gull]

why not boot an os at random

[reef tundra]

Why not have only one operating system that is able to virtualise everything

[fair gull]

so

windows

[wheat plume]

I would do that but my OS drives are only 240GB

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1374619637095280643

kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi)

@VideoCardz ada

Twitter · Mar 24, 2021, 7:10 AM

Oh shit Super Switch uses Ada

[reef tundra]

You can run hyperv in linux the latest kernel versions with the right settings. and run an windows virtualmachine under hyperv

[wheat plume]

^^ and do single GPU passthrough

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rumored-to-introduce-gpu-architecture-named-after-ada-lovelace

So next gen Super Switch is based on 5nm

[wheat plume]

Intel cries in 14nm

[halcyon moss]

ah, so lots of shortages

[ashen spindle]

keep in mind that is samsung 5nm

[reef patrol]

Holy heck. 2,5GB update for my phone 😄

Guess my 1+ is finally getting 11

[wheat plume]

oo neat

[thick elk]

Ultimately as an end user the node used does not matter much, generally nvidia is a bit behind in nodes compared to amd.

[ashen spindle]

on the topic of dual booting, anyone have experience with dual booting windows/windows?

[wheat plume]

y tho

[ashen spindle]

work/non-work

[wheat plume]

hmm, fair enough

[ashen spindle]

right now I have 2 pcs

[pale sigil]

Yes

Windows makes it pretty easy

[fickle ore]

Btw.. That discussion weeks ago where carmonben and you quintosh thought new microcode would help 11700k aged really well.. 😄

[pale sigil]

As it'll use Windows boot loader

[fickle ore]

Sorry, being petty 😛

[ashen spindle]

what, I'm pretty sure I said it wont help much lol

[fickle ore]

oh yeah wait, it helped avx512 loads

[ashen spindle]

can you easily set it up when I already have windows set up on a drive, and can I say WindowsA can use drive 1 and 2 and windowsB can use drives 3/4/5?

[pale sigil]

Id imagine you can use hide drives? In my case it was more just I had 2 drives and windows installed on each one but both can access the rest of my drives

[ashen spindle]

so i could only hide them but not actually seperate it

hmm

not on a mage level paranoia but I'd just prefer to have it seperated for unforseen cases

maybe ill keep it as separate pcs

[old marlin]

wtf is virtual time

trying to set up headless chromium to take a screenshot

and wanted to make it wait for a second before it takes the screenshot

which uses a parameter in virtual miliseconds

which results in it never making a screenshot no matter what I put in

I want more of a result than this though

[pale sigil]

Holy shit that's huge

[old marlin]

oh nice

[ashen spindle]

I guess I could use bitlocker to have them encrypted and separated that way

[old marlin]

apparently 1 actual second is 1000000 virtual miliseconds

wrtf

or something like that

[ashen spindle]

lol

google time ™

[old marlin]

how have I never heard of this

[wheat plume]

wot dis

[pale sigil]

Bit much

[wheat plume]

gold oohh

fancy

[timid chasm]

You selling me that 3080 yet?

[reef patrol]

Want me to dig out the PLATINUM PSU boxes? 😄

[pale sigil]

I mean

I ain't that fancy

My point was the size of the shipping box was insane

XD

[ashen spindle]

is that setup with windows or do you need some extra tool?

[reef patrol]

But... that's the PSU box. That's normal size for a modular PSU box 😄

[wheat plume]

Least you got a shipping box, my disk drive came wrapped in bubble wrap with the shipping label on it

[crimson wigeon]

Probably on about the box it was shipped in

[ashen spindle]

I think the package around the psu box is big and he just didn't provide a point of reference in size

[reef patrol]

Then he should show a pic of THAT if that's what he's talking about 😄

[vapid zodiac]

need a banana for scale

[crimson wigeon]

Literally did, scroll up

[reef patrol]

Ahh. So he did. Missed that

[reef tundra]

Harddrive are pretty resilient against dings and light percussion. Aslong as it aint shattering the disks or bending the reader it should life fine

[reef patrol]

Server farms would like to disagree.

Was it Linus who shared an anecdote of how moving a stack of HDDs safely stacked on a rolling table, killed several drives after being pushed across a parking lot with a bit of unevenness.

Now compare that to "HDD in bubble wrap shipped with your average courier"

[vapid zodiac]

ssds are resilient, but hdds.... not so much

[reef patrol]

I've had to RMA several high TB NAS drives while working retail because they were shipped in their original packaging with a thin layer on cardboard around it.

You know what most retailers would do.

[fair gull]

the head getting stuck happens so easily and after that u can almost forget about using them

[timid chasm]

I'll never understand why people skimp on shipping. You don't even have to spend much more just make sure things are packed tightly

[reef patrol]

Ultimately it's about luck - angle, velocity and flooring.

I dropped my 3TB NAS drive half a year ago from my table onto a wooden floor. Every tool I had claimed it was still good to go, but I didn't trust them a bit. So I replaced it immediately.

[reef tundra]

Sounds a little sus, but it could be. When you get a load of anything, premature failures are common. Like with the incandent streetlamps. While having a lifespan of 2 years or so, they fail every 2 months on a small crossroad.

[ashen spindle]

these? 😛

[pale sigil]

The shipping box lad

[pale sigil]

You mean show a pic like j did here? @reef patrol xd

[reef patrol]

I literally corrected myself slowpoke 😛

[ashen spindle]

god you both need to learn how to read the entire conversation xD

[wheat plume]

:')

[reef patrol]

Hell no 😄

[wheat plume]

Im dying

[reef tundra]

Me too

slowly

[wheat plume]

samme

[pale sigil]

Why

[reef tundra]

Entropy

[pale sigil]

Irs effort

I don't need to read the entire convo

[reef patrol]

Here's one of mine. Not super flashy but good lord look at the marketing speak. 🤪

[wheat plume]

Im quickly descending into flowchart hell .-.

[pale sigil]

I mean

My name

[reef patrol]

LEGENDARY

[wheat plume]

DARK POWER

[crimson wigeon]

SILENT WINGS

[ashen spindle]

meanwhile I only now noticed I almost bought the same one with different rating for the new pc as the old one has lmao

[pale sigil]

Do you think it'll be fine using the same power cables from the hardware to the psu

[wheat plume]

high end

[pale sigil]

It'll make life 1000x easier

[wheat plume]

xd

[reef patrol]

Same model? Yes.

[reef tundra]

Flowcharts are easy, understanding how others cant understand it is the hard part

[pale sigil]

Similar model

Not exact same

[reef patrol]

What brand?

[pale sigil]

Evga

[crimson wigeon]

If it fits it'll work

[reef patrol]

NO.

That is NOT a guarantee xD

Gimme a sec.

[wheat plume]

not when you are meant to detail code structure and the code has like 6 if conditions all nested within themselves and all of this inside a while loop

[reef patrol]

Right - EVGA use only a single standard. You should be gucchi

[ashen spindle]

the one standard to rule them all

[reef tundra]

Then you abstract the bahavior more

[wheat plume]

I did that and hel told me to not do that

[pale sigil]

Going from a EVGA SuperNOVA G1+ to a G2L

[wheat plume]

I added all the blocks of code he wanted and no more

but now he wants more blocks shown

[reef patrol]

EVGA use the same pinout on all of their "current" CPUs. You should be safe 🙂

I know Corsair has at least two "current" standards. Gave me a bit of a scare when I was trying to sort my modular cables a month ago or so.

[pale sigil]

I don't understand evga

[ashen spindle]

while you should be safe, if you replace a psu because it's probably the cause of issues, I'd just replace the cables anyway to be on the safe side

[wheat plume]

.-.

[pale sigil]

Why have a bag for a psu

[reef patrol]

The felt bag?

[ashen spindle]

dont think thats an evga only thing

[reef patrol]

With a tightener?

[ashen spindle]

one of my seasonics had that too

[reef patrol]

It's for that LUXURY feeling, Callum 😄

[pale sigil]

I get that

My previous one felt similar

[timid chasm]

for when you take it out and carry it around

[pale sigil]

Feels great but instantly wears off

When you realise irs waste

[wheat plume]

"felt" similar
Pun intended?

[pale sigil]

XD

[reef patrol]

The velcro/felt bag is super helpful for keeping track of which belong where 😄

Could have saved me 45mins of painstakingly comparing wires and pinouts to make sure I wouldn't blow up a PC.

[pale sigil]

Anyway, I can't do it right now as my grandparents are popping over to drop some plants off :s

Was hoping to send out the old one today

[ashen spindle]

the new ones doesnt have them bc apparently it's material is used for making masks so they decided to not make them currently

[ashen spindle]

brain hurts now

[wheat plume]

brain hurts now

[ashen spindle]

wow

more comments than code is rare

[wheat plume]

^^

there is 440 lines in this file

[ashen spindle]

but sounds like a perfect code to look at for a student

[wheat plume]

yeah but trying to get all the condition paths shown in a flowchart is driving me fucking insane

Im not close to done

This is just the second nested if else

there are like 5

all inside the first if

which is inside a while

[ashen spindle]

sounds easy if it's all nested as that means its all separate blocks

[wheat plume]

but idk how to show that this loop is inside a vblock

the if line number> 1 is inside the block above it

[fickle ore]

Can anyone think of how to induce a cpu bottleneck in a game that doesnt let you go lower on graphics, i.e 5800x paired with gtx 1060

[ashen spindle]

run other cpu heavy stuff

[crisp granite]

render the game at half rez and upscale?

furmark in the background?

[fickle ore]

Overwatch is gpu bottlenecked even at 50% render scale for some reason

like wtf 😄

[wheat plume]

furmark alone could bottleneck lel

[ashen spindle]

lower the renderscale in driver

[fickle ore]

hmhm

[crisp granite]

gpu bottlenecking at half rez

damn that game be optimized

or just really light

[fickle ore]

it's weird yeah, usually with lowest setting at 1080p gtx 1060 is twice faster than even 5800x

[ashen spindle]

what

at full hd this gpu is faster than a cpu

[crisp granite]

my brain is melting

clarify

[fickle ore]

a gtx 1060 renders a frame at half the time of a 5800x at lowest graphical settings in most competitive environments (fps games), i.e for a gtx 1060 it takes 0,5 ms to render each frame, while for 5800x it takes a 1.0 - 1.3 ms

[crisp granite]

oh

that makes sense

[fickle ore]

But for Overwatch the game indicates bottlenecks with dots after your framerate

one dot means framerate is simulation bound (lots of gameplay to sim)

two dots means GPU is saturated

three dots means the Render thread is limiting the framerate

[ashen spindle]

Better question, what do you want to do

[fickle ore]

I'm currently at 400fps with .. after the count, sometimes it hits ...

I need to get .

it's physically the lowest input delay 😄

Tbf I was there with a i7 2600k, stupid 5800x too fast for OW

[ashen spindle]

So making the cpu load heavier s not desired, but keeping it as low as possible while getting max FPS?

[fickle ore]

hmm, good question

1. max fps. 2. cpu load at minimal, gpu load at minimal, but gpu frame always slightly faster than a cpu frame, and the lower the cpu/gpu framestimes are the better it is

the load needs to be minimal, since the lower it is, the less time it takes to render it out and spew it onwards

[ashen spindle]

I mean, Max FPS and keeping both cpu and gpu load minimal is just going opposite directions

[crisp granite]

ye

just keep it at the settings you want

and replace that 1060 when you can

it's holding you back

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle cpu/gpu load decrease is directly proportional to frametime decrease -> fps increase, provided they are not decreasing due to bottlenecks

Yeah I gotta replace 1060 I guess, I just thought about if you guys had any clever tricks in mind

[crisp granite]

if you want more frames and less CPU bottleneck

I'd give that 1060 an OC

[ashen spindle]

I mean in terms of stripping expensive unneeded features yes, but if you have the minimum and don’t run max frequency etc. you would lose FPS

[fickle ore]

Yeah that sounds right

[ashen spindle]

You want a fast calculated load, how that looks in terms of utilization depends on cpu, optimization etc

[fickle ore]

HT/SMT confuse that utilization a bit too. I guess you can't disable/reduce stuff in nvidia inspector etc in modern games, like shadows, etc?

[ashen spindle]

unlikely to have it in a way that increases performance

[fickle ore]

ffs

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/1PV0J7RhQJI

This rendering tho.... dannnng

They had to lower the video to 1080P hahah
Their other ones are up to 4K

[pale sigil]

That was quick

[crisp granite]

damn

[pale sigil]

Pretty good for 3 moths

Months

[crisp granite]

I've had my GPU for 4 months at this point?

[crisp granite]

and have next to no dust buildup

my case has dust filters galore

love this thing

[pale sigil]

There isn't that great of an exhaust

As you can see

I was going to replace the case fans but my budget

Haha

Went over already

[crisp granite]

oh

you installed the GPU support bracket?

[pale sigil]

Came with the GPU

[crisp granite]

I know

I, Smoothbrain the first, neglected to do so

and now I got a gpu that sags worse than unsupported titties

[pale sigil]

Thicc beauty

[crisp granite]

mhm

[pale sigil]

I love cabling

[crisp granite]

I'm gonna dig through my closet for the GPU box

[pale sigil]

Brings me so much peace

[crisp granite]

I left the bracket in there

maybe it was kinda smoothbrain of me to leave 2 kilos of GPU power unsupported

[pale sigil]

Gone be a bitch

[crisp granite]

wait

you mount your sata ssds?

dude

I just shove them into a snarl of cables so they stay put

[pale sigil]

XD

[halcyon moss]

haha same

ran out of drive bays in my old custom NAS, it had a old xbox hdd at the bottom of the case, loose

[crisp granite]

noice

ok

I got the bracket

wow

my PSU came with cable ties

and I used none of them

didn't use "tweezers" either

oooo

cal

should I go molex to sata power?

[old marlin]

no

[pale sigil]

Very noice

[crisp granite]

cable combs 100

[misty pier]

one of my friends made those aluminum cable combs

I don’t know where she gets this stuff

[old marlin]

choina

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/alec-baldwin-its-prounounced-as-gyna-impersonate-trump-china-its-gif-10133422

[pale sigil]

I'm gonna keep the same cpu cables

Cos it'll be incredibly hard to replace

Without having to take the radiator out

[reef patrol]

Oof

[pale sigil]

Welp

Looks like I have no choice!

They don't have the same connectors to the psu

@reef patrol

[reef patrol]

Very very odd.

According to Cablemod they're the same.

Wait... what am I even looking at?

Didn't you buy extenders, not PSU specific cables?

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol for the cpu no 😭😭

Only the rest

[crimson wigeon]

What if when you send your old PSU back they want its cables

[pale sigil]

@crimson wigeon specially tells me to not put the cables in

Literally

[crimson wigeon]

Nice!

[pale sigil]

They are useless to me anyway

They won't work with this psu

Sometimes I forgot I'm not using a pita cooler from corsair

So removing the radiator isn't thst bad

My only regret with this build is the ram tbh

[cursive summit]

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/cambridge-audio-dacmagic-200m

@neat oriole if that interests you

[wheat plume]

Why do I find this shit? The Proton Firefox UI context menu has lines to break each part and they line up with the add a comment lines on youtube

[crisp granite]

ok

@pale sigil

GPU support bracket doesn't do much

and is an utter bitch to install

also helps that my system was pretty warm and the heatsinks were hot when I installed it

[pale sigil]

Welp

Ain't turning on

Nvm

I'm a moron

Bloody leds xD

[halcyon moss]

turn m off? :p

[pale sigil]

It happened again

Bios won't post

[halcyon moss]

its not the psu

or its the cables? :

[pale sigil]

Basically every now and then I seem to have to flashback the bios

:/

[halcyon moss]

thats not normal at all

[pale sigil]

I know

Irs something that's always happened

[pale sigil]

I should really look into it ik

But it's so much effort to. Rma a. Mobo

[wheat plume]

TIL you do NOT need Firefox Nightly to use the new UI changes :P Just enable or add all the items in about config and relaunch it

[pale sigil]

This is what the cool kids do right

[wheat plume]

:P

[crisp granite]

wow

[wheat plume]

#OnlyTopPlateKids

[crisp granite]

bringing back my childhood

watching the star wars clone wars tv shows on Saturday mornings

I forgot that character's name

but she was a jedi knight iirc

[pale sigil]

XD

Not keeping it in there

She's just a little to big

:(

[wheat plume]

;-;

[pale sigil]

I could use some blue tac

Remove the stand all together

[wheat plume]

Or get a small figurine like my Shinobu one!

[reef patrol]

I mean they do on cards that aren't hot under load 😉

[crisp granite]

dude

[wheat plume]

yeah... you wanna make sure the plate dont get hot af

[crisp granite]

the MSI Gaming X cards stay fairly cool

not watercooling levels

but still really good

[pale sigil]

Ye very cool

[pale sigil]

Weeeb

[reef patrol]

It's mostly about the VRAM on the back of RTX3090.

I wouldn't put a figure of any kind on top of the backplate 😄

[wheat plume]

uh huh,, you can totally say that as a true non weeb

/s

[crisp granite]

I can say such things

lana

very cool

[wheat plume]

:P

[crisp granite]

but not many of us are anime fans

cal totally is one though

[wheat plume]

Got a Shinobu Kochi figure :P and that one from Demon Slayer

I have 4 figurines so far

3 here and my Miku one at home

[pale sigil]

glass side panels make me paranoid af

[misty pier]

i put my figurine on top of my gpu plate and um

the plastic actually kind of softened

she fell off the stand

[zenith sonnet]

Reduce CPU clock in BIOS

[pale sigil]

ooft

my gpu thermals are baddddddddddddddddddd

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

why..?

[crisp granite]

how?

I hit 63 degrees Celsius at full tilt

[misty pier]

mine hits 83C at full load

[pale sigil]

55c idle

[crisp granite]

hm

[misty pier]

thats bad?

[crisp granite]

my GPU idles at 33

[old marlin]

wtf

[misty pier]

mine idles around there too

[crimson wigeon]

That's relatively normal if it does the zero RPM fan thing

[old marlin]

55 idle is insane

[crisp granite]

ye

very

[old marlin]

even than that is high

[misty pier]

so do you want me to just run the fans on it 24/7

🗿

[ashen spindle]

most have 0RPM set to around 50C

[old marlin]

no

[ashen spindle]

so that makes sense

[old marlin]

[pale sigil]

tbf

[old marlin]

what does it go to at load?

[pale sigil]

fan 0%

[misty pier]

55-56c is when the fan ramps up

[ashen spindle]

see

[old marlin]

oh that is good

[pale sigil]

usually its 35-45c idle

[old marlin]

still used to pascal numbers ig

[reef tundra]

Its silicone, it like the heat. Let it relax in its jacuzi

[pale sigil]

prob just cos its a warm day

[old marlin]

my gpu sits at 48 idle

[ashen spindle]

my normal idle temps

[old marlin]

and it is a laptop

[misty pier]

i might get a better airflow case so those numbers can get lower

[old marlin]

with a 200W chip

[crisp granite]

uh

[reef tundra]

As long as there is no thermal runaway its fine

[reef patrol]

giggles in sub 25C idle

[old marlin]

lol

[pale sigil]

like

[crisp granite]

why are my temps so low?

[pale sigil]

all my fans are on 5% rn

xD

btw

[old marlin]

not everyone can afford custom water cooling

[crisp granite]

33 idle, on air?

[fair gull]

giggle in sub 300 idle

[pale sigil]

normal

i used to get that too

[crisp granite]

actually

it kinda makes sense

this cooler is also used on the 3080 and 3090 skus

[reef tundra]

You are just that cool 😎

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/tzw8zaiqmsy9.png

[pale sigil]

WELP

[misty pier]

wtf are you doing to your pc

[pale sigil]

this is a new one

xD

[crisp granite]

thanks for asking, claire

[misty pier]

every pc you touch just breaks

[fair gull]

another new pc cal? rly?

[reef tundra]

What if you read the manual?

[crisp granite]

hm

best way to cool a PC is to surround the case with snow

[fair gull]

na

LN2

def

nothing beats it

[reef tundra]

Liquid helium bitch

[misty pier]

[fair gull]

cant afford that bruh

[crisp granite]

I got a stable OC outside

[misty pier]

i prefer snow more

[crisp granite]

in -20

it works

[reef tundra]

More conductive?

[crisp granite]

not important

[wheat plume]

but it melts

[misty pier]

didn't some guy say here that he wanted to open a vent in his wall to draw in cold air from the outside to cool his pc

but he was getting fussy about dust entering his pc

[crisp granite]

as long as none gets onto the actual components

[misty pier]

[reef tundra]

Then illigalise it

[misty pier]

coat it in hydrophobic coating

dont worry about water

[crisp granite]

just constantly keep the PC temps below zero

and the snow inside won't melt

simple

[fair gull]

id just say

the best way for low temps

dont turn the pc on

[misty pier]

what temperature does aio coolant freeze

[reef patrol]

Hard to say.

[ashen spindle]

depends how much glycol is in it

[crisp granite]

or, hooking up your air conditioner to your custom liquid cooler setup

[reef patrol]

I wouldn't run a PC below 0C anyway...or indeed 20C.

[reef tundra]

Depends on formula, pressure its will to live

[reef patrol]

I kind of want to exist in the same room 😄

[crisp granite]

and crack that shit as low as it will go

[misty pier]

[crisp granite]

you're nuts

subzero gaming is awesome

[misty pier]

who uses an aircon to cool their pc

[reef patrol]

I remember being in a 15C Server Room. Needed a bloody jacket and sitting for an hour was so cold on the hands 😄

[crisp granite]

linus

[misty pier]

yeah server rooms are nice and cold

[crisp granite]

fellow canuck and utter lunatic

he also used a water chiller filled with antifreeze to cool a PC

[reef tundra]

Use air, just blow that hotness away and maybe burn your enemies while you are at it

[crisp granite]

subzero

[misty pier]

🗿

[crisp granite]

dude

that's T shirt weather

[wheat plume]

15C is hot....

[misty pier]

i mean it is humid in there at least

[reef patrol]

Not it isn't 😄

[wheat plume]

YUES IT IS!"

[reef tundra]

That is a number followed by a letter

[reef patrol]

That's like 7-8 degrees below room temp.

[crisp granite]

it is mansen

[misty pier]

your skin won't dry

[wheat plume]

Is Canada as cold as Ireland, Doge?

[crisp granite]

sweater weather is subzero

[reef patrol]

Maybe if you're standing in the damn sun. Otherwise no. You utter lunatics 😄

[crisp granite]

more to the extremes

can go down to -20

[wheat plume]

well, during Winter, yeah...

[crisp granite]

can go to over 40 sometimes

[wheat plume]

o.o

[crisp granite]

yeah

[misty pier]

im more adjusted for high heat than cold weather

[crisp granite]

specifically where I am, lana

[reef tundra]

The cold is annoying for the first 5 to 10 minutes after that the body adjusts and it feels fine to be in -20 celcius

[crisp granite]

some parts of canada never freeze

and it just rains like hell for a few months

[misty pier]

so basically the uk

[wheat plume]

rains like hell~
same here

the last few days were fairly dry though

[reef tundra]

at the equator it rains daily

[crisp granite]

we're polar opposites in that regard

[misty pier]

i can tolerate 40C for a while

[crisp granite]

I sweat in 10 degree weather

😅

[misty pier]

🤔

[reef tundra]

Im more adjusted to anything. I can be fine with a shirt, sweater and jacket at 35C

[misty pier]

i can't wear a jacket at 35c

[reef patrol]

Yeah yikes.

I wear jeans and a tee all summer.

[misty pier]

shorts and short sleeves all summer

and flip flops

[reef tundra]

I never have shorts, always jeans

[reef patrol]

Oh yes. Flipflops are a must.

[misty pier]

i just don't know if people who wear socks and sandals in the heat are insane or just comfortable with it

[fair gull]

i wear my socks over the sandals

[misty pier]

why do you do it

[pale sigil]

o.0

[reef tundra]

I wear different socks because i can

[pale sigil]

literally using the desktop client

[reef tundra]

Eh, desktop(electron)
is basically chrome pretending a website is an program

[pale sigil]

nono

i know this

but its weird that its showing up on the client for me

[reef tundra]

Because it is a website masquerading like a program and forgot its mask?

[pale sigil]

BFV doesn't freeze anymore

lets test other stuff

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

outriders still freezes

but i feel like its that game at this point

[reef tundra]

it also slowly deforms your feet

[reef patrol]

Step 1 - Don't drive cars?

My sandals have a sort of "work safe" front. Won't safe your toes from a falling piece of equipment, but it's a solid front.

[crisp granite]

good one

surf

in a mountainous state with no tides or very large bodies of water

[crimson wigeon]

https://46c4ts1tskv22sdav81j9c69-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/44/2021/03/file-explorer-icons.png waow Sun Valley icons!!

[reef patrol]

Very uh... Mac

[crisp granite]

oh

whitewater kayaking and the like

very cool

always wanted to try that

but I'm more of a sea kayak guy

I'd check out the P&H kayaks

personally, I really like the scorpio HV a lot

oh

wow

wild

the photo shows a leftie design

can this do right handed?

this is also a canoe at heart

but, goddamn it looks like a joy to paddle

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/tX5xCQcHbPE Holy crapu

I really like this thing

[crisp granite]

NUCs

way too expensive

[cursive summit]

Tiny though

[crisp granite]

that's awesome

[cursive summit]

Pop it in your bag and carry it anywhere basiaclly

[crisp granite]

just paddling between islands?

hot

[wheat plume]

🤔 is the power cable meant to stick out this far?

[crisp granite]

locke

dude

these are fairly inexpensive canoes

I must get one

no

for canoes

this is pretty cheap

at least

canoes of this calibre

but

I can get a laser for this kind of money

paddle or sail?

[wheat plume]

Linus: gets over powered graphics cards to test
Also Linux: Uses CSGO as a basis on how powerful it is

.-.

[crisp granite]

ye

a local club had a listing for one

3k CAD

no

laser

like sailboat

was the Olympic solo boat

until a few years ago iirc

this

[fair gull]

i mean

many people want a stable 300fps in it

for comp

so the benches are kinda useful

[crisp granite]

I'd need to buy a full rig since I'm too big for a 5.2 or radial rig

[pale sigil]

"1. EVGA requires that you send only the product and NO ACCESSORIES. Do not include Cables, CDs/Games, and Manuals."

[ashen spindle]

?

[cursive summit]

Um

Does this mean that the port supports power delivery or what?

All the rest of the USB's on that NUC are blue

That one's an exception

[fair gull]

thats the urine port

[crisp granite]

that's where you plug in your USBkiller

[reef patrol]

Because... freemarket? 😄

[ashen spindle]

for one sapphire releases their msrp

and on the other side, retailers would just sell it for more too and people then buy it less

770$ for the 6800xt

usd

aud would make that cheaper than the 650 reference price...

nice

thats cheaper than here

or here

[fair gull]

the cheapest one i can get is 718 without vat

but surprise surprise all sold out

[ashen spindle]

reference design probably

[fair gull]

even the ones costing 1.5k without vat

https://discordjs.moe/lm7dcmack9hk.png

[ashen spindle]

oh wow thats almost msrp lol

but the only ones we get in stock anywhere seem to be

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/3uot4a4fmyfg.png

https://discordjs.moe/xdg8ohclaz7w.png

all my distributors list it as EOL

so ya

i wont be getting those

ever

[ashen spindle]

1800 for a 700 card, thanks mr retailer

insane that I can feel happy for getting a 700€ 6800 non xt lmao

https://www.proshop.de/AMD-Radeon-RX-6000-Series-overview

[fair gull]

short supply

[ashen spindle]

the palce I got the picture from is the most expensive store I know

like not joking

they are mediocre but incedibly expensive

no clue how people still buy there

[reef patrol]

Extreme short supply.

[ashen spindle]

no other retailer lists them at at

[reef tundra]

I am willing to sell my rtx2060 for 1 million euro dollars. yes yes. i am that rich that i can afford to sell it for just 1 million euro dollars

[ashen spindle]

but k&m is special

[reef patrol]

I almost got what I paid for my 2080.

That's how crazy the market is 😄

130€ difference

[ashen spindle]

ngl thats why im considering dual booting

so I can sell my 1080 for as much as possible LUL

instead of running 2 pcs

[reef patrol]

Linus made a video on this the other day. The entire pipeline from raw goods to final product are working on expanding...but most of these new fabs are planned for 2023 construction being finished.

[ashen spindle]

Q3 is projected relaxation of supply chain, with Q1 2021 as projected time where it's mostly caught up and all over

[reef patrol]

So... 2024 is actually not a weird guess.

[ashen spindle]

eh, yea

[reef patrol]

I'm being pessimistic 😄

[ashen spindle]

people going back/having home office set up now is going to cause not as much increased demand

otheriwse yeah

@pale sigil did you use any tools to set up the dual boot windows? or just command line with what windows has?

[pale sigil]

i literally just installed winodws onto another dirve

like normal

you can also use

[ashen spindle]

didnt you say you already had both installed

[pale sigil]

lemmi find it

No

i installed windows on a different drive and had 2 oses that way

[ashen spindle]

thought you had two drives and both had it installed already, mustve read that wrong then

[pale sigil]

trying to find the software for ya

that does it well

https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

it is designed specially for this

[ashen spindle]

ty

[pale sigil]

very good software

[ashen spindle]

uh, do I have to have activated windows for that I just thought about

never ended up activating my new pc lol

[reef tundra]

i think all it does it allow backgrounds and no watermark nowadays

those few euro eom licence keys also work, if the seller is legit

[ashen spindle]

yeah, but you know, I'd rather not

im all for paying license if needed, but I only have two separate ones running bc of home office

[reef tundra]

Microsoft doesnt seem to care anymore about getting those licence fees. As it maintains their market share, mostly corperate businesses want to get legit keys from microsoft authorised sellers

[ashen spindle]

I mean I wont lie, im saying that but I only got my windows keys for free from education

just made the mistake of not getting more than one

[reef tundra]

I bought a win10 pro key for like 2 euros and it worked

but now i use linux daily lol

[cursive summit]

Or you can just KMS to activate anything for free

[reef tundra]

me grub scrub.
also that company name bother me somewhat. "New smart" ew

[ashen spindle]

yeah

but I already have it installed and cba

[reef tundra]

Officially by their deadline it shouldnt be right?

[ashen spindle]

I mean if I can dual boot without issue

I'll just not get a key

it's not complaining and I dont mind the watermark lol

half the time it's not even there for whatever reason anyway

meh at that point ill just keymanager it

bc its not like those 11$ go to microsoft and why would I pay some rando for it

[reef tundra]

They would get more from you using the os and collecting the data than the licence key lmao

[ashen spindle]

there is news and it could be good or bad

what an article

[reef patrol]

There will be news...and they are significant.

And then I killed the dog.

[ashen spindle]

[crisp granite]

make a stir fry

it'll taste great

[reef patrol]

https://youtu.be/GUS3ZpgMORg

[cursive summit]

Hm

Hmm

[crisp granite]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-conspiracy-time-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017112

[cursive summit]

I'm somewhat of a CEO myself

[old marlin]

so worth it

from two X5570s

uhhh

[crisp granite]

[old marlin]

anybody wants 2 X5570s

[crisp granite]

good one vexx

[proper crystal]

That's some alarmist bullshit.

[crisp granite]

sure

[ashen spindle]

ins't that from before nehalem

[old marlin]

yes

but it also was cheap af

aka

free

[ashen spindle]

haha

[old marlin]

• drives and new CPUs

[ashen spindle]

fair enough

[old marlin]

Z800 is a decent machine

for home server shit

[old marlin]

also is nehalem

btw

[ashen spindle]

close enough

[old marlin]

x5570 is 4C8T

the x5670 is 6C12T

huuuuuge upgrade if you have two and run vms

[wheat plume]

why it no write the file names to the CD?

I just burned it with Brasero

[reef tundra]

drm?

[reef patrol]

CD's don't have track names by default. It isn't part of the standard.

[wheat plume]

o

thought it would just use the file name

[reef tundra]

Mansen why did you do that?

you know what

[reef patrol]

It relies on ID3. Tags in each file.
Artist, Track name, Length and so on and so forth.

[reef tundra]

I blame obama

[reef patrol]

You can usually get burning apps to burn the ID3 into a data track? that most modern players can read.

[agile plume]

well so i play fortnite (don't judge) and i want to get double movement to bring my gameplay to the next level. I also don't want to pay 300 dollars to scalpers on amazon/ebay
will the wooting 2 come with double movement for fortnite and how do i set it up, also will there be a tkl version or only fullsize?

[reef patrol]

1. Yes all of the Wooting boards support the "double movement" trick in Fortnite (Until Epic patches it one day, maybe)

2. The new "HE" line only has a full-sized board planned (The HE) and a yet to be announced "SMALLER than TKL" board to be talked about more in late 2021. So no TKL for now.

[wheat plume]

Read pinned message in #archived_fortnite_double_movement

[agile plume]

k

[reef patrol]

Aaaand you double posted. Bad, @agile plume BAD!

[agile plume]

thanks

sorry man

i just want help lol

[reef tundra]

dont we all

[wheat plume]

wow, 3 channels

[wheat plume]

o

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/1234four-hundred-cash-money-price-asset-gif-12594909

[crisp granite]

wow

this dude

[reef patrol]

Asking the same thing in four different channels isn't going to get you faster help. Just annoyed moderators 😛

[crisp granite]

I'm answering in questions answers

[agile plume]

sorry duck man

[crisp granite]

nah

I told them that you can just saw off the numpad

[reef tundra]

no, the lekker club is the cool club

[crisp granite]

sure it might brick the board

but it does produce a TKL

[reef tundra]

we get to wear the sunglasses indoors

[crisp granite]

Ten Less Key?

le what?

[reef tundra]

Less Functional Keyboard

[crisp granite]

sounds about right to me

the wooting ones should be labeled LFK

as opposed to TKL

[reef tundra]

With full analog keypad

[crisp granite]

so you can type hella fast in Excel

gotta go fast

[reef tundra]

https://youtu.be/YM4URqeBjVY

Buying up Razer

Doesnt matter if you are Razer

Eh, will it even be made

I would much rather have 2

i dunno

time machine broke

Keyboard ??? with eummm a switch?? maybe also two of them ??

No, I dont believe in fairy tales

if there is english where is england then? when they show me on the map they keep pointing to the UK

funny number

[crimson wigeon]

I'm doing the windows dual boot for memes and urgh who had the bright idea to make the OS selection part of the OS

[wheat plume]

Wdym part of ?

[reef tundra]

What do you mean?

[crimson wigeon]

It asks you which OS to start after starting the main, so if I don't want that it has to do a full reboot

[wheat plume]

Oh
Grub

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe I'll just try Quibble

[proud nacelle]

sounds like you didn't install the right bootloader or something

[ashen spindle]

dual booting 2 windows or one linux/windows?

[wheat plume]

Can't you spam the boot menu key on boot up istead of grub or whatever ?

[proud nacelle]

^, also verify that you have the right thing which is starting

[crimson wigeon]

This is just how Windows works nowadays

Also can confirm offline account still easy to do

[reef patrol]

Just gotta be offline when installing Windows xD

[crimson wigeon]

Or have pro because that's what you aaare

[ashen spindle]

so I guess I put work windows as first option since I usually will start that first lmao

thanks for testing lol

[reef tundra]

if you need to fool the high tech security

[crimson wigeon]

Well if you have all SSDs it's not really a problem ecks deee

[reef patrol]

I recently reinstalled Windows. Pro still needs the disconnect trick to get the Offline account option 😄

[ashen spindle]

yeah it's gonna be 5 SSDs and one HDD with just some data on it lol

[crimson wigeon]

Then what was the offline account button I clicked? Damn should have taken pics for proof

[reef patrol]

Might be a regional thing. Or your USB installer is an old build.

[reef tundra]

You can go into the setting to tell it to first select the last os it loaded

[crimson wigeon]

I literally downloaded it an hour ago

[ashen spindle]

in more exiting news, crypto is currently crashing a bit

aka either I make more money or gpus get slightly easier to get

win-win

[proud nacelle]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/486/592/4bb.png

[reef tundra]

Dont be stupid, stupid

[crimson wigeon]

Eh I doubt the miners are gonna panic sell

[ashen spindle]

that not, but might not order as much new ones

[reef tundra]

If cryptos stay mostly this buy/sell for profit it is probably an exit scam

[reef tundra]

I think it uses that dc kind of electricity edison was talking about

[proud nacelle]

can have both at the same time

a boomer and a millenial

my dumb ass was wondering why there was a rdm button on the radio when i was younger

then i realized it meant random, not random death match

¯_(ツ)_/¯

don't know, don't care for the terms

do care for the memes though

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

Wat tf is that

[pale sigil]

New Windows icons

In the upcoming overhaul

[wheat plume]

The whole window seems thiccer

On
Mansen already sent that image

Earlier today

[pale sigil]

Ah ye lol

[wheat plume]

I don't like them... Xd

They don't work with the rest of that UI

[pale sigil]

I just want Linux like GUI. Plox

[wheat plume]

That will happen once every developer makes their apps in UWP so everything follows the Fluent UI guidelines

[zenith sonnet]

I still miss depth in the UI

Everything is just flat, lifeless nowadays

[wheat plume]

I like mostly flat but not fully

Googles material design gets that right I think

[ivory geyser]

Just like today's world 👀

[wheat plume]

Just like my chest

Wait what? Who said that

[ivory geyser]

Just get implants, ezpz

[wheat plume]

Xd

[ivory geyser]

What is gonna be Lana? Cs? Ds? Es? xD

[wheat plume]

C at maximum

My body is slim

[ivory geyser]

I like how you have all this planned out and properly mapped.

Nice

[wheat plume]

Ofc xd
I want to have them but to be proportional
Slim body so small cup size

[ivory geyser]

But how else are you gonna be a big-tittied goth GF?

[wheat plume]

Thicc thighed goth gf

[ivory geyser]

Oh ye, that works too!

[wheat plume]

I wouldn't be goth
I'd be demon gf

[ivory geyser]

If you know how most actual goth chicks are, you would realize there is a = symbol between the two in most cases

[wheat plume]

Demon girls are cute
Their horns, wings, tails, red skin

[ivory geyser]

Which is great, because it makes such people fun to hang around with xD

[ivory geyser]

Well demons tend to come in all different color tones I think, not just red.

[wheat plume]

True
Blue is common
And pitch black

[ivory geyser]

Yus

In some cases, also green

And very occasionally the porcelain pale white.

For the fancy contrast of full-black eyes on the white skin 👀

[wheat plume]

I love full black eyes! My gta online character has them

[ivory geyser]

I... havent heard anyone being this excited when talking about demons and their looks for a good couple of years.

You are quite the interesting person Lana 👁️

[wheat plume]

:p thanks!

So are you for not thinking I'm strange for talking about these things and joining in / carrying it

[ivory geyser]

No, not at all.

[wheat plume]

I really love unusual makeup and cosplay

Such as different skin colors and things

[ivory geyser]

I met many people over my life that make all your preferences and struggled over all things in your life look like boring and mundane lol... xD

And I dont mean that in some insulting way

[wheat plume]

Xd

[ivory geyser]

Just that I met people who were borderline clinically insane.

[wheat plume]

I'm glad I'm not as fucked up as I thought

That's for sure

[ivory geyser]

I knew a guy who used to be a part of Ukranian mafia, had about 6 illegitimate children, got shot twice and had such rage fits that he kept beating up people and getting it a shitload of people with police.

For example xD

[wheat plume]

O.o

[ivory geyser]

Fun guy if you didnt get on his bad side tho, once went out for a tea lol

It was a friend's acquaintance.

[wheat plume]

I'm not a person to be physically strange
Like I don't do anything strange but my thoughts are very very strange

[ivory geyser]

That he got to meet through some god-forsaken contacts from his career is politics... xD

Well, how are you thoughts very very strange?

If you dont want to type it out here, I am willing to listen in DMs

[wheat plume]

I can talk about cursed things easily and not sugar coat them
I think things are cute even if others might think it's creepy (like demon girls with pitch black eyes etc)

[ivory geyser]

Well I mean... good tastes xD

[wheat plume]

:p

I really wish I could be one
Have the skin color and tail and wings too

Even if the wings didn't make me fly, they still look badass

[ivory geyser]

Unusual for people to desire such things - especially when older than say... 12-16.

[wheat plume]

Shhhh I'm not old

[ivory geyser]

Again, not meant in a demeaning way

[wheat plume]

:')

[ivory geyser]

I wonder what is the underlying motivation for such unusual preferences and wishes.

[wheat plume]

Not a clue
I just think they are pretty and badass looking

You could intimidate people by spreading your wings and staring them down xd
That's badass af

Kind of like a demon t-pose

[ivory geyser]

xD

[wheat plume]

This is super wholesome though

[crisp granite]

why is it that I boot up discord to this temptress

[wheat plume]

Xd

This is probably the only wholesome image of her

[crisp granite]

:o

could I have one of the...less wholesome ones?

😆

[wheat plume]

Except this

[ivory geyser]

Not sure how wholesome it is... she sounds like she wants to hear all about your day in bed while doing... certain activities

[wheat plume]

Nah

That's just you xd

[crisp granite]

that do be kinda wholesome though

no clothes

[wheat plume]

But I'd love to cuddle her

[crisp granite]

nothing to hide

just talking

heart to heart

[ivory geyser]

Actually.... yea. 🤔

Good point

[wheat plume]

True

[ivory geyser]

That is kinda wholesome

[crisp granite]

and yes

lana did say cuddles

which everyone likes

[wheat plume]

I want demon girl cuddles

Especially if it's her
She's not an evil demon

[bitter oasis]

Hrm. Your day sounds cool and all, but we can go back to talking about demon cuddles. It, too, was OT, but somehow more...idk...wholesome? ❤️

not into misogyny, really. I think that was it. Mostly the "shut up woman" comment I think. hard to read the intent there. but demon cuddles, on the other hand...

[crimson wigeon]

Didn't know I'm the grumpy duck, nice!

[wheat plume]

Oh
It was you? Xd

My bad

[reef tundra]

Demons? Some MGR rounds will down them real quick

[halcyon moss]

hmm just typed git checkout instead of git clone.. old svn habbit popping up

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean old

we only use SVN at work

[halcyon moss]

jesus why