🔌│tech

[pale sigil]

but i wanna laugh at them

simps

[ashen spindle]

you know its based on your search profile google has

[pale sigil]

im not logged in tho

and i watched one video

different browser

third browser

bitch

[ashen spindle]

damn you simp on multiple accounts?

[pale sigil]

fu

xD

[ashen spindle]

dedication

[crisp granite]

same

the sniffie snortie they must be on is potent

[pale sigil]

TELL ME

[crisp granite]

tell you what?

[crimson wigeon]

Tell him why

[reef patrol]

Ain't nothing but a heartache?

[crisp granite]

Why I never walked away?
Why I played myself this way?
Now I see you're testing me, pushes me away

[pale sigil]

xD

[crisp granite]

lol

[pale sigil]

[crisp granite]

yikes

I find it royally fucked up that someone who benefited from make a wish said all that and then someone who makes a single, correct statement gets told off

"just get cancer or something"

idk

[zenith sonnet]

On a limited number of displays, the preferred desktop resolution in Windows® may change when the display is power cycled.

Didn't someone have a problem with this?

I wonder
Popped up in AMD's known issues list

[analog aspen]

@old marlin got my Viper 8kHz. The improved button is hella nice. LMB has some sort of “aggressive pinging”. Is that normal or defective?

Sounds like the plastic cracking

[zenith sonnet]

I still wonder why the fuck silent mice are not a thing?
All the clicking all the time is kinda annoying

[formal meteor]

Eh I mean he is kinda right

He did at least get something out of the sickness rather than getting nothing

Than pain and meds

[analog aspen]

cause microswitches

[astral haven]

logitech makes really good silent mice

https://smile.amazon.com/Logitech-M330-Silent-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B01JPOLKDW/
really like this dude

i also like the m590 but i dont see it any more

[analog aspen]

a smile Amazon link POGGERS

finally some goodwill

[misty pier]

my dad used to have that mouse

think it broke

[misty pier]

yup thats what happened

it got crusty

over time it gets sticky and icky to clean the grip

[analog aspen]

Is this why people despite rubber side grip on mouse

How does lizard skin different then

[misty pier]

probably because you can peel and replace it easily

but tbh at this point I just prefer bare plastic

don’t need rubber that’ll get all gummy after use

[old marlin]

They are

But tactility makes noise

So they feel shit

[analog aspen]

@old marlin is the clicking noise in my video normal?

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, but you can be tactile without a blue switch like metally click

[analog aspen]

Sounds like defect

[old marlin]

Can happen on razer opticals

[zenith sonnet]

Is normal

My G900 also sounded a lot like that

[analog aspen]

Like what is it actually

[zenith sonnet]

Resonance

[analog aspen]

The upstroke noise

[old marlin]

You have metal on metal contacts though

[old marlin]

The leaf/blocker sticking

[analog aspen]

So defect?

[old marlin]

It really only affects the noise

[analog aspen]

Yeah it only kinda bother the shit out of me

Rapid clicking will cause that 10 times worse

Which is what I do 80% of the time playing League

Is all the 2nd Gen switches like that?

If not I’ll contact Amazon for replacement

[old marlin]

I mean

Your lmb and rmb are different

[analog aspen]

Wait that’s not normal?

[old marlin]

Ideally they would be the same

[analog aspen]

I always thought LMB and RMB sounds different

[old marlin]

But most factories have shit tolerances

[analog aspen]

In like, all my mouses

[old marlin]

Yea omron tolerances are like 15+/-

Kailh is the best at 5+/-

[analog aspen]

Viper 8k uses omron?

[old marlin]

Nah

Lkv2s

Dunno theirs

Especially since razer has a very custom version

[analog aspen]

Yeah just make 1 tweak then name brand it differently

[old marlin]

No like

The normal ones are garbage

The mm720 uses them

They might be the worst switches on the market rn

Razer custom ones are quite good in comparison

[analog aspen]

Razer using worst tier gear

[old marlin]

Even though i prefer other switches

Well

They are still opticals

So you still gain a lot of advantages

And razer mostly got rid of the big disadvantage

[analog aspen]

[old marlin]

Minecraft players still prefer lkv1s though

[analog aspen]

Okay so if the leaf blocking really annoy me enough I should get a replacement

[old marlin]

Yes

[analog aspen]

And cross my fingers that one is better

Kk thanks

[timid chasm]

Watching the LTT tech upgrade for Anthony and saw this comment.

"Anthony: Buys a UPS because he's sensible

Dennis: Buys a neon sign that says "Live, Laugh, Liao" because he's insane"

Dennis is insane

[reef patrol]

[cursive summit]

Half year old leaks were true

Valve Index Wireless

Cable-free, inside-out tracking, eye tracking

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20210080996.pdf

[ashen spindle]

I hope the inside out is optional and you can still use basestations

[timid chasm]

Coming in at an absurd price I imagine

[misty saffron]

reluctant to buy anything vr until apple shows theirs

if leaks are true, dual 8k sounds super fucking good

[timid chasm]

yeah but for what use apart from like youtube videos or movies

wtf would run that for games

[misty saffron]

Notably, the report claims Apple won’t be running the power-hungry 8K displays at full resolution the entire time. Instead, the device will use the eye-tracking technology to determine where users are looking and then rendering peripheral areas in lower resolution to improve performance (a technique in the VR world known as foveated rendering).```

[timid chasm]

yeah I know it's talked about but we'll see if it's ever utilized well

[ashen spindle]

that is not an apple only feature and still needs a lot of power

[timid chasm]

It would be great if devs could pull it off well but I won't hold my breath

[misty saffron]

i doubt there wouldn't be a nice sdk

doubt even more metal wouldn't just take care of it in background

[misty saffron]

could possibly be a hardware feature

[ashen spindle]

foveated rendering has been talked about since the first vr headset had some prototype eye tracking 5+ years ago lol

to some degree it already exists

there is a vive pro variant with tobii eye tracking

and some industry software make use of it

just no real games yet afaik

[proper crystal]

Intel did an oopsie. Again.
https://twitter.com/_markel___/status/1373059797155778562?s=19

Mark Ermolov (@_markel___)

Wow, we (+@h0t_max and @_Dmit) have found two undocumented x86 instructions in Intel CPUs which completely control microarchitectural state (yes, they can modify microcode)

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Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 11:52 PM

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

goddammit intel

[ashen spindle]

time to use it to jailbreak your pc

[crimson wigeon]

Excellent

[fair gull]

time to launch the exploit i hid in the microcode of billions of x86 cpus now that my method has been uncovered

[analog aspen]

@old marlin I got a white Superlight coming. Time to buy desolder gun and kahli

[misty pier]

wonder if a superlight is worth getting

dont need a new mouse but it seems cool

[misty saffron]

that's the thing: apple has their own rendering api

and they can easily modify it to just take eye tracking stuff into account behind the scenes

[ashen spindle]

literally the same for any sdk, be it oculus, vive, apple etc.

[misty saffron]

they haven't done that though for whatever reason

[ashen spindle]

or in this case the sdk comes from tobii since they are the ones with the actual eyetracking

pimax has their own iirc? but supposedly not as good yet

[misty saffron]

so it still needs the developer to write that part of the code

and apple could make that automatic

[ashen spindle]

well, the sdk is useable for more than just rendering

the rendering part will be included into engines like unity/unreal and whatever a studio uses ingame if they are big enough for their own

[misty saffron]

tbh i'd love to see eye tracking used in games for hud

[ashen spindle]

apple might bring more adaptation for it, but not because they are using their proprietary shit, only because it's more hardware having it

[misty saffron]

why does ios crash whenever i try to play music in my car through bluetooth tf

[analog aspen]

i'm getting it to see if I really benefit from the light mouse (or I should just go workout xD)
Also white superlight is being scalped rn so they'll be happy to take it back or I'll just sell it worst case

the 8khz polling mouse was really noticable for me tho so I'm probably using it as my main from now on
Edit: after the first flawless day, 2nd day started showing common symptoms including mouse undetected. Stutter/high CPU usage/FPS drops in game. All of which were fixed with restarts but Jesus Christ it’s unreliable

[ashen spindle]

more something that should be done in vulkan/dx api anyway

uhh them using it doesnt make them the only ones lol

...

yeah I my bad I guess valve crytek ubisoft squenix sega and unity/unreal are just some random devs

because I am not a wiki and only list the ones I know

im not looking up who else uses it

also idk what, but all ps4/5 games use something thats basically vulkan

doubt they make extra work for pc to switch it all and ignore it fully

[zenith sonnet]

Even indies like Valheim use Vulkan

I have 100+h in Vulkan Valheim and not a single crash

So, I consider it pretty stable

I also used DX11 for 20+h

And other than a slight performance uplift with Vulkan I honestly didn't see much difference

Not in terms of stability either

But they have like 1 programmer only?
Maybe he just knows what's what and that's why it works

[crimson wigeon]

Isn't it also mostly developed on Linux that would explain things

[zenith sonnet]

That I don't know

[ashen spindle]

yea.. fun pr move, terrible implementation

[astral haven]

Vulcan can natively handle 30+ million draw calls where on my machine with 8 cores dx11 can only handle 2-5m
Dx12 is around 40m

[misty saffron]

dad spilled beer on iphone home button, feel like i should just give the button a vodka bath since it can't be disassembled and kinda need to get the beer out of it

any better ideas?

[astral haven]

Wdym it can't be disassembled?

[misty pier]

got some.. rice?

[astral haven]

Pull the home button itself out and dry it on its own

I hope the Id team goes to the effort to stick with vkrt

It's alot more work tho :/

[misty saffron]

you underestimate how small the part is

[astral haven]

Rice still works

[misty saffron]

definitely not

i want to get the beer from in between the layers

[astral haven]

Oh that's not possible

The idea is to absorb the moisture

[misty saffron]

but i can get vodka there and then let it dry

beer dissolved in vodka is better than just beer

[astral haven]

🤷 gotta get it out somehow still

[misty pier]

got a desiccant packet handy?

those soak up moisture too

[misty saffron]

nope

[astral haven]

Silica gel 👍
Not great for alcohol tho

[misty pier]

probably not get rid of the residue though, or smell

[misty saffron]

not at 1:10 am at least

[astral haven]

At 1 am?

Welp looks like you need to get an express flight to make it hollow lel

[misty saffron]

button works, touch id doesn't

wtf

ok, vodka bath it is

worst case scenario it stops working completely, in that case it's a $1 part anyways

[wheat plume]

its so beautiful

[ashen spindle]

reminds me of a traffic light

[wheat plume]

xd

[cursive summit]

Which Oppo is that

[wheat plume]

Find X3 Neo

[cursive summit]

Find Nemo?

[wheat plume]

Make sure to insert your tool into the right hole, otherwise you will damage your phone

Yea, pretty sure

[zenith sonnet]

Who in their right mind would stick the pin into the mic hole instead of the SIM card tray lock?

[wheat plume]

yeah ;-; you need that garbage on EU sold phone

and UK

[wheat plume]

they are quite close to eachother on this phone

[zenith sonnet]

So?

[wheat plume]

yeah it is

Take your passion to the extreme, unless your passion is hentai, in which case, maybe not so much, that could scar you for life

[rapid moss]

The smartest people make the dumbest mistakes. 😉

[wheat plume]

xd

[zenith sonnet]

In all fairness, making dumb mistakes because you're inattentive is on you

It's also a great way to break cups and glasses in the dishwasher or your nails

[crisp granite]

christ

last summer I made a super dumb mistake

and kinda crushed 2 of my fingernails on my left hand

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/P0pETOHIJZY

[crisp granite]

of course your CPU heatsink fan will go full tilt without it actually being on your CPU

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/exKaOznI1_E
This guy's drive situation hurts my brain

especially following along in the software

[reef patrol]

Howso?

[wheat plume]

the disk manager starts labelling them at 0,
macrium reflect labels them starting from 1

and then reflect's UI is strange and he doesnt clone some partitions and idk why and aghhh

[reef patrol]

Heh

[wheat plume]

xd

speaking of drives, I need to buy that 1TB SSD

replace the mech drive im using potentially, or keep it for backup idk

dont wanna run games from it anymore thats for sure
even just copying them over to it sucks

I heard it was possible on some motherboards that the second m.2 slot doesnt run as fast as the first one can??

[crisp granite]

ye

mine does that

[wheat plume]

how do I find out for my mobo?

[crisp granite]

in the mobo manual iirc

certain numbers of PCI-E lanes allocated to certain slots

[ashen spindle]

you ignore it bc you dont have neither pcie4 ssd nor otherwise something saturating your bandwith

[wheat plume]

oh, second slot is PCIE3

[reef patrol]

Yep.

Unless you've got X570 that's it.

[wheat plume]

my current m.2 SSD is only PCIE3 anyway aha ok then nvm

[crisp granite]

good to know for the future though

[wheat plume]

so I should be fine with any m.2 SSD for the second slot?

[crisp granite]

ye

[reef patrol]

Mhmm

[wheat plume]

coolio

[crisp granite]

:D

I was...helpful??

[wheat plume]

yeh!

[crisp granite]

no way!

[wheat plume]

:')

how bout dis 1? https://www.komplett.ie/intel-665p-1-tb/20982753/product/9425

I think this is faster than my current one.....

[crisp granite]

doesn't matter

it's not full PCI-E 3.0 speeds, so you should be fine

[wheat plume]

hm?

[crisp granite]

for PCI-E 4.0, I'd be a bit worried

[wheat plume]

hey, its a helluva lot faster than a flipping 5400RPM HDD that I currently have

Its going to take hours to transfer all the shit over .-. and to reassign Origin and Steam to use the folders in the new ssd as their libraries and to verify that the games are still all there

DAMN IT

wait, no, my current SSD is faster according to this website

3.000MB/s VS 2.000MB/s

[ashen spindle]

It’s an ssd

[crisp granite]

games load faster

[ashen spindle]

Who cares about theoretical speeds

[crisp granite]

do you really need more????

[wheat plume]

I just find it interesting

"Larger capacity SSDs are faster"
wot? really?

then how does this site claim my 250GB SSD is faster than this 1TB SSD?

[ashen spindle]

Because it’s not the only factor...

[crisp granite]

wait

[wheat plume]

yeah... true

[crisp granite]

quin

are you saying there are other variables out there?

that can impact performance in a completely different way?

[wheat plume]

The variables, Quin, what do the mean?!

xd

[ashen spindle]

No answers without my lawyer

[crisp granite]

who's your lawyer?

and why do you have a lawyer for discord questions?

[wheat plume]

the write tests are on the right
noice

[ashen spindle]

Can’t answer that without my lawyer

[crisp granite]

ffs quin

you're a tough nut to crack

[crisp granite]

either that is a test in progress

or a lot of "DNF"

[wheat plume]

yeh it is

[crisp granite]

good

I was gonna say "Throw it out if the test produced zeros"

[wheat plume]

the packaging for these Intel SSDs is interesting, they come in a plastic tube

[ashen spindle]

so you mean like basically any ssd?

[wheat plume]

thats not a tube

🤔 how did he clone the SSD without it installed yet?

did he mess up the order to put the clips into the video

[ashen spindle]

yes thats not a tube but thats the 660p packaging

[wheat plume]

it slid out of a tube

[reef patrol]

M.2 to USB adaptor.

[wheat plume]

OOOHHHH Thats how he cloned it .-. im a moron

Ok ok, Sabrent still have the most overkill packaging :')

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

:P

My friend's Sabrent came in a little metal tin box, like those containers for mints but for the SSD, it was really well presented

[crisp granite]

nice

my ssds just came in plastic trays

but my sata ssd had this adapter for 3.5mm drive bays to fit the 2.5mm drive

[wheat plume]

so did mine

[crisp granite]

so, that was cool

[wheat plume]

O.o baby SSD

so short, wow

[reef patrol]

Oh no.

mSATA.

The prodigal son.

[wheat plume]

oh?

[reef patrol]

It was like a prototype for the longer M.2. It fell out of popular use VERY fast.

More expensive for the few who can (only) use them as a result.

[wheat plume]

oo

[reef patrol]

They came about ( I think? ) for laptops before M.2,s because they're thinner than 2,5" SSDs.

[wheat plume]

yeah... much thinner for sure ahah

[crisp granite]

it looks like an M.2 B+M connector

does it work in normal M.2 slots?

[wheat plume]

ye

[crisp granite]

coolioz

[reef patrol]

Oh you're right.

It's actually a super short M.2

[crisp granite]

just learned something today

thanks lana

[wheat plume]

at least, the one in this screenshot does work on normal m.2 slot

unless some cant, idk

[reef patrol]

No no. It's M.2, not mSATA.

It's just a short boi.

[wheat plume]

ahhhh

lol

[reef patrol]

Note the notch on the connector. And how wide the connector is.

My brain just dumb 😄

[wheat plume]

Imma make my order for the 665P tomorrow I guess

agh, itll be annoying having to take the GPU out

[ashen spindle]

just take the other m2 slot?

doubt both are blocked

[crisp granite]

that ain't M.2

do I get a cookie?

[wheat plume]

Yeh
The GPU covers it just slightly from reach

[ashen spindle]

huh

[wheat plume]

I can't reach under to slot it in without tie gpu being removed

[crisp granite]

just get your hand in there

giggity

but seriously, if the GPU is in the way, take it out temporarily

[wheat plume]

Oh
I don't have a screw driver
Fml

[crisp granite]

you can borrow mine

[wheat plume]

Gosh
Thanks

[crisp granite]

I'll just yeet it across the bloody ocean

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Yay

insert gif of that unrealistic bag toss Faith does in first mirrors edge

[neat oriole]

[wheat plume]

I could get another 2.5 ssd
But then I'd have to cable manage two cables and that's a hassle

But no screwdriver needed

Apparently QLC sucks and to not get the Intel 665p

Wot

[ashen spindle]

ignore it

it doesnt matter for your usecase what you get

at all

[wheat plume]

Someone showed me a screenshot of the windows 10 file transfer dialog running 32MB/s as proof that it's crap

And then later 1.42Gb/s in a samsung ssd

:') fucking file copy

Wasn't even copying the same stuff

[ashen spindle]

thats called marketing

[zenith sonnet]

disingenuous marketing*

Marketing doesn't have to be misleading

If you got some actual reason your product is better than other products of the same class

[wheat plume]

They say go for this SSD

[ashen spindle]

no

[wheat plume]

Yeah...I don't like that brand

[ashen spindle]

no the brand is fine

but why pay 20 bucks more for no reason

[wheat plume]

Or this if I wanna spill the extra cash

.-.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.komplett.ie/wd-black-nvme-ssd-sn750-1tb/20924453/product get this or bust

there is no reason to not go for the intel ssd

[wheat plume]

Oh gosh that's a lot of money

[zenith sonnet]

You'd probably be better off with a Samsung 980

[ashen spindle]

the only reason to not get the intel one would be if you find something else thats cheaper

[zenith sonnet]

Yeah, that one's pretty good

[wheat plume]

So the Intel is best option if I don't wanna splash out extra for the WD?

Kind of funny xd my current SSD is a WD Black but 250GB capacity

[ashen spindle]

the intel one is the best variant unless you want fancy numbers to be bigger on useless benchmarks

unless you find something for cheaper

[wheat plume]

goes searching Amazon germany

[ashen spindle]

yeah gl, thats about the cheapest you can find it anywhere

[wheat plume]

The Intel?

[ashen spindle]

maybe some store has it for 9x€ because its on a sale or something

them being so affordable is part of what makes them great

[wheat plume]

Hmm??

It's bad that I'm nervous about removing the gpu
Don't want to damage the slot

[ashen spindle]

dont rip it out without pressing the latch and you cant really damage it

[wheat plume]

I guess my friend will have a screwdriver

[reef patrol]

1. push the latch.
2. Unscrew the GPU from the back.
3. Remove power cables.
4. Yoink the card carefully.

[wheat plume]

Do I need to remove the gpu power cable? I tried to do that already to try to cable manage it better and it didn't come out

[reef patrol]

I mean you can leave the card hanging or whatever.

[ashen spindle]

dont need to but makes it much easier to handle

[reef patrol]

Only remove it as much as you need to 😄

[wheat plume]

I need to take a closer look to see how much is covering the slot

Oh ffs I deleted all my photos

I'll have to wait till tomorrow

[ashen spindle]

photos for what

[wheat plume]

The ones I took close-up of the computer
I had one you could see the second slot

[ashen spindle]

For what do you need a closeup

[wheat plume]

Xd

The motherboard

To see how much of the m.2 slot is covered by the gpu

[ashen spindle]

... how about you look at it with your eyes?

Or just look at a diagram and you can see it from that

[wheat plume]

I can't rn

Diagram won't help cause it won't show the gpu

[ashen spindle]

Yes but you know what size your gpu is and the diagrams are accurately scaled

[wheat plume]

Thicc

Hmm

Is it possible to clone my hard drive to the SSD
Then assign the ssd as the drive letter the hard drive used to be
So that I don't need to reassign and verify every game in steam and origin again?

[ashen spindle]

Also is there only one empty m2 slot? If not just use the other one

[wheat plume]

Or will they know it's a different drive?

[crisp granite]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

black always look great

[wheat plume]

Oh wait
That's been painted?

[crisp granite]

nope

Noctua NH-D15s can come in black

[wheat plume]

Oohhh

Ohh

What

When they say lower than average endurance
I still don't know the average lifespan of an ssd

Hmm

Hmm okkk

Tbh
I'm taking a risk using this hard drive currently
It's been used for many years in my friend's computer before he gave me it

It clicks under load

When I install a game to it, I hear clicking when it's written to

Oh

Would an ssd last maybe 6 years?

Ah that's fine

It's going to be my game library

So storing and playing games off it

And also document backups

I already have this ageing 5400rpm drive xd

So damn slow

Ahh

I could
The Intel one is the cheapest 1tb though I can see on that website
I'll look on Amazon germany tomorrow and see there

[ashen spindle]

You won’t find a cheaper one unless there is a sale probably

And yes easily lasts that long

My my oldest hdd and ssd probably have power-on time of >5years

[wheat plume]

You didn't turn off your computer in that long??

[ashen spindle]

what

I said thats the time the drives have been powered on

I turn my pc off every night

[wheat plume]

Oh...I forgot they keep that statistic

[astral haven]

Qlc bad and the 660p is the worst qlc

[astral haven]

not for games that have frequent manygb updates

also 660p isnt the worst qlc just because the nand sucks, its the worst qlc because it has a crazy high failure rate

a person i know deployed a few thousand of them to office pcs and had an afr of like 25%

[astral haven]

your 10 year old hdds are

but new hdds are built waaaaaaaaaaay worse lel

yep

specially the consumer models

basically anything under $90 is gonna be ewaste in 4 years

and for 2.5 inches they are gonna be mostly gone in 3

[zenith sonnet]

I wouldn't quite say they're that bad

My SSD from 2009 is also still working

And they REALLY wear down a lot faster

[astral haven]

vs what tho?

a 660p?
dont believe thats possible

[zenith sonnet]

Used it as a system drive for years, has some 100 TB writes

SMART shows 33% or something

Durability left

[misty pier]

my 9 year old hdd is still running strong

I use it to store obs footage only

[reef patrol]

Bold.

[misty pier]

[wheat plume]

Ah
This is how a website should be
https://youtu.be/ykNEkiYr0QM

[ashen spindle]

god please no

people making bad websites shouldnt lead us back to wanting websites with functionality from the 80s

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/cvDyQUpaFf4

[fair gull]

lanas ideal website

https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

[ivory geyser]

Guy has a naive idea that webdev has ANY say in putting any ads on the site.

[wheat plume]

https://www.technewstoday.com/intel-discontinues-the-665p-m-2-ssd/

Maybe I shouldnt get this SSD, its already dead in Intel's eyes

[cursive summit]

Prolly not profitable enough?

It's a great SSD though

I got the 660p and it's really good

[wheat plume]

but its unsupported now

[cursive summit]

So?

You going to install SSD drivers or something?

[wheat plume]

i dont think I need to :')

my current nvme works just fine

[cursive summit]

Which is why Intel discontinuing it doesn't matter

That's a financial decision

Doesn't impact the performance or longevity whatsoever

[wheat plume]

O.o the 1TB version of the SSD I have is 220 euro

but its freaking fast

I just remembered, I hope I have the screw leftover in the motherboard box

[cursive summit]

You gon screw yourself?

[wheat plume]

shh xd to slot the ssd in

[cursive summit]

Weird metaphore for intercourse but..

I guess it works

[wheat plume]

boi

[cursive summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-dr-who-matt-smith-hi-honey-im-home-gif-4362116

Yes, me boi

[wheat plume]

imma just hope Ive kept all the screws and crap in the boxes I kept and buy this one later

borrow my friends screwdriver

hope it has the right size to get the screws out

[fair gull]

inte 6xx series ssds are garbo imo

[cursive summit]

Well just cause they are cheap doesn't mean they are bad

The value is pretty compelling

[fair gull]

ya but premature failure makes em bad imo

[ashen spindle]

They aren’t Samsung or similar sure but given it’s something in Ireland for not overpriced, that’s already good

[wheat plume]

wot?

they dont last long?

[fair gull]

well from my experience with them they have failed as quick as the kingston a400 series and some adata drives

i had them in some business pcs for not even a year

[wheat plume]

oh fuck :/

[fair gull]

and they started to not be recognized by anything anymore

[wheat plume]

;-;

[thick elk]

Smaller ssd's are often worse in that regard as they will experience more cycles for the same amount of data.

[wheat plume]

Should I cancel my order and get a different one?

[thick elk]

so if those office pc's had something like 120gb storage that would be a factor.

[wheat plume]

:/

[fair gull]

na 250, 500 and 1tb

is the only sizes i deploy

even if they only have 40gb of data or so

[thick elk]

We still have a decent number of 120's around never had any one of them fail though.

[wheat plume]

IOSDGHaeroujgeoihst

Time to cancel my order then??!! unless you got a faulty one

[ashen spindle]

No don’t cancel it

[fair gull]

well i deployed around 200 id assume

of which i had to replace 10-15

not sure on exact numbers

but make up ur own mind about it

[ashen spindle]

Were those 660 or 665

[fair gull]

mix

[thick elk]

around 80 here over 4 years or so, mostly cheap 120gb's 0 failures so far.

[fair gull]

the failures were i think 3 or 4 660s

the rest 665

[wheat plume]

🤔

[fair gull]

i pmuch dont deploy kingston, adata or intel ssds anymore

just cause i cant afford to always have to worry about failure

still a small sample tho

im not the world market

[thick elk]

Fair enough, I must admit that most of mine are neither of those.

[fair gull]

just local businesses i supply

[wheat plume]

I dont wanna spend 250 on the WD Black SSD :/ but its probably the best one

[fair gull]

250?

wot

2tb?

or what

[wheat plume]

1TB

[fair gull]

those dont cost 250

wot

[wheat plume]

oh, 220

[ashen spindle]

Ireland prices remember

[fair gull]

oh right

was about to say they are 120eur max

[ashen spindle]

Hence no point not getting anything but the 665

[fair gull]

i mean id try it

[wheat plume]

but if it failed in less than a year .-.

[fair gull]

for all i know u could never have issues

[wheat plume]

for tony anyway

[fair gull]

for as long as they run ill let em run

i just wont put em in new machines

i mainly deploy hp, wd and samsung by now

[thick elk]

Also just because one or two series had issues does not mean all of them have.

[fair gull]

still destroys trust

id rather not deploy another few hundred

[fair gull]

and have them also maybe fail

[wheat plume]

what about this?

[fair gull]

so i bet my horses on trusted ssds where i haid almost no failures compared to how many i sold and deployed

[wheat plume]

:/

well now im getting anxiety and I havent even gotten the SSD yet

[fair gull]

sorry just thought id share my experience with ssds over the years

[ashen spindle]

every drive can fail

[thick elk]

Just make sure to have a backup of important data, generally something you should do either way.

[fair gull]

^

and what quin said

[ashen spindle]

if anything failing inside warranty is better as you are covered by said warranty lol

[fair gull]

for all i know i could start getting tons of failure with my current prefered choices

[wheat plume]

its going to be my game library for Steam and Origin
Thats mostly it, but I wanna use to store my shared stuff that I wanna access from Linux and Windows

cause Windows cant see my Linux drive and Linux doesnt wanna copy to my windows drive , so this will act as a storage drive for both

[ashen spindle]

also it really makes no sense to spend money on storage beyond what you need for capacity when literally every other part of the system is budget

[thick elk]

Just beware that wine does not play well with ntfs or windows file permissions in general.

[wheat plume]

I dont use wine, I have windows for that

[vagrant pagoda]

if you have good interenet a ton of storage isnt that needed

[fair gull]

will prob get win file perm issues anyway

[wheat plume]

I live off mobile hotspot

[vagrant pagoda]

F

[wheat plume]

even my ping is barely tolerable for multiplayer games

[vagrant pagoda]

i have 4 tb of nvme

[thick elk]

I have a shared 500gb drive, works fine most of the time, just don't deploy things like webservers or wine. For general file storage it's fine.

[vagrant pagoda]

and never filled it lol

[wheat plume]

O.o thats shit is expensive

[vagrant pagoda]

3 drives

[wheat plume]

oooh

[vagrant pagoda]

over 3 upgrades

[wheat plume]

ahh right

[fair gull]

i only have 2tb

[thick elk]

my pc actively uses 2x 1tb and 1x 500gb.

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/s1aobbq408j1.png

both not full but well used

[thick elk]

for now that is fine

[wheat plume]

Enigmatic Elmo
:') dafuq

[vagrant pagoda]

1 tb 960pro was first

then a 2tb 600p

than a 1tb 980 pro for 4.0

if been ssd boot drive for a while

i remember upgrading to a sata 3 ssd from sata 2

lol

[wheat plume]

I am glad I went with 250GB SSD for my OSs, cause its just enough for everyday things and then have a massive drive seperatly for games and everything else

[vagrant pagoda]

my first ssd was a 120GB vertex 2

[wheat plume]

All my Linux related stuff all fits on 250GB anyway, including all my games and such

[wheat plume]

oh yeah, you use Plasma desktop dont you

[fair gull]

https://discordjs.moe/2zbhafhih3yd.png

[vagrant pagoda]

120gb was lik 250 bucks

[wheat plume]

o.o

[vagrant pagoda]

in 2010

but

comparing a ssd to hdd of the day

[thick elk]

I still have my 120gb ssd from when that was around 150.

[wheat plume]

I remember paying like 140 euro for my 250GB SATA SSD a few years ago, the ones im still using in my new computer

[vagrant pagoda]

i went from a wd velicoraptor

to a sata 2 ssd

lmao

look at reviews from then

thats why i still paid that much !

plus back then biggest games were only 2 dvds

[thick elk]

I still have my old 120 somewhere in use, generally besides windows it could store around 2 games.

[vagrant pagoda]

and 7 was like what 10-15gb?

both my vertex 2 and 3 died

after them i have been all first party ssds

samsung and intel

[wheat plume]

I just realised, I will need to make sure to buy a case with a Disk drive slot if I wanna upgrade at any point

[vagrant pagoda]

meh

get a usb

[wheat plume]

no space

thats why I went internal drive

nice and neat

[thick elk]

PCI-e adapter card

[vagrant pagoda]

huh

[wheat plume]

heh

[vagrant pagoda]

a external disk drive is smaller than most internals

and like 2 mm bigger than slimline drives

so any case with a internal drive slot, will have more volume than a case+external

[wheat plume]

idk, I like things to be self contained as much as possible

[reef patrol]

I mean.. it doesn't have to.

[vagrant pagoda]

huh?

[wheat plume]

which is another factor I went internal, rather than having a cable always stick out of my PC

[vagrant pagoda]

you use disks that offten?

[wheat plume]

I already dislike the wifi antennae I must have outside my case

[reef patrol]

Meet slimline. Aka. Laptop DVD drives.

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

thats what i said

[reef patrol]

External slimlines aren't "bigger than internal" ones.

[vagrant pagoda]

external slimline drives

are like 2 mm thicker than internal ones

if that

[reef patrol]

You DO realize you can use those internally as well ,right?

[vagrant pagoda]

read what i said

[wheat plume]

they arent bigger

[vagrant pagoda]

a external slimine

and a case without a drive slot

will be less volume

than a case with a internal slot

[fair gull]

pls dont compare internal non slimline to external slimline

[reef patrol]

I disagree.

They CAN be. They definitely HAVE to be 😄

[wheat plume]

oh

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

just pulled them out

a slimline drive reads 13mm thick

my external drive with a built in usb cable that stores under it

is 14mm

the internal drive is 128mm wide, the external is 135mm

length is 130 vs 140

so the external drive is only ~50ml bigger

its amazing how small they are

i just never use disk drives lol

[wheat plume]

I have to create 3 CDs this week

2 for mom and one for my uncle

[vagrant pagoda]

what for?

[wheat plume]

although the CDs I have are only 700MB, so only like 18 songs fit on them

Anyone got suggestions for a decent Android tablet for about 100-140 euro? It must have 10 inch screen

Im having issues finding any worth their price

[pale sigil]

None

They are all shit

[wheat plume]

my uncle needs a new one cause his one is on Android 4

idek the rest of the specs

[crimson wigeon]

Android tablets are a crappy meme just get an iPad

[fair gull]

heres the rest of the specs: cpu shit, ram shit, storage shit

[wheat plume]

I dont want him to have to create two apple accounts just to use a tablet

you need an Apple ID and a App Store ID

[fair gull]

wha

afaik

u only need 1 apple account

[ashen spindle]

Yeah

[pale sigil]

You only need one account lmao

Wtf lana

[wheat plume]

on my other uncles ipad, he needs two
one for the OS and one for the App Store

the Cloud storage account and the App Store*

[pale sigil]

Wot

[ashen spindle]

Congrats you broke it

[pale sigil]

Even on Google you should only need one

[wheat plume]

^^

[pale sigil]

Same with apple

[wheat plume]

yeh I know on google you need one

[pale sigil]

So the hell are you chatting

You use one apple account for everything

[ashen spindle]

I don’t even know how you could use different ones lol

[wheat plume]

I just know he needs an iCloud account and an app store ID

[pale sigil]

No

Lol

[wheat plume]

Ye

[pale sigil]

You don't

Both are the same account

[reef patrol]

Can confirm.

One AppleID fits all.

[wheat plume]

it wont even let him update apps cause apparently the apps were installed in a different account to the one he is using currently

[pale sigil]

Love

[wheat plume]

but hes never logged into the app store with a different account

[ashen spindle]

Did he get it used?

[wheat plume]

no

[ashen spindle]

Because that sounds like some old account stuff not being deleted etc.

[pale sigil]

Idk wtf you did

But all is one account

[wheat plume]

its an old ipad, idk what version

but yeh, he cant update any of his apps

[ashen spindle]

That does only happen if you download and install via an old account and then use a different one and log out of the old one

[pale sigil]

Even if you're on a different account

On the app store

You should still be able to update

[wheat plume]

nope

its not letting him

I tried myself

[pale sigil]

Then just wipe it

Lmao

[wheat plume]

:/ we cant, he hasnt anything backed up

[pale sigil]

Or login to the store account with his propper account

Lana

Ipads auto backup

[wheat plume]

that is his account, he doesnt remember anything else

[pale sigil]

Icloud

Make a new one then

Backup to the new one

Isn't hard

[wheat plume]

oh, thats a different account to his app store one

[pale sigil]

Doesn't matter

The entire ipad backs up to the account he is using for everything outside the store

Or just login to the store

Using the ickoud account

Lol

This is basic stuff lana

[wheat plume]

I siggested that last idea but he doesnt know the password anymore

[ashen spindle]

This happens to prevent people buying apps on one account, installing it on multiple devices and such. So someone at some point messed up.

[wheat plume]

it seems only I am the only one who can remember passwords

[pale sigil]

Judt log out of the store

Recover his account

[wheat plume]

oh, I know why its fucked .-. he switched from hotmail to gmail since he got that tablet

[pale sigil]

Forgetting an apple account is a death sentence

[wheat plume]

his icloud is hotmail

[wheat plume]

cant recover them?

[pale sigil]

Yes

Which I suggest you do

[fair gull]

so he has 2 accounts setup which is possible but thats user error

[reef patrol]

It's not always possible - but usually is.

[fair gull]

u can use an ipad with 1 account

[wheat plume]

ahh

[pale sigil]

Can he access his Gmail and Hotmail?

[ashen spindle]

so back to the point, get an ipad over android tablet

[fair gull]

back to the point get a surface pro

where is planet z located

[reef patrol]

Next to quadrant H

[crimson wigeon]

And how do I get there?

[fair gull]

damn

[wheat plume]

not his hotmail

[pale sigil]

F

[pale sigil]

I mean if you fancy selling your organs sure

XD

[fair gull]

my workplace sponsored me one

so idc

its nice

and just an easy 1.6k eur

[wheat plume]

Would it be worth it to get antennae that screw into the wifi card's slots instead of the external one that came with my motherboard? cause rn I have this long ass bendy cable coming out my pc to the anntenae sittig ontop of it

[pale sigil]

Just get powerline adapte... Oh wait

Ye I forgot your situation

[wheat plume]

its literally my only option

[fair gull]

LIES

[ashen spindle]

yeah I still don't understand why you're not tethering

[fair gull]

USB TETHERING

[wheat plume]

.-.

[pale sigil]

She has no choice

[fair gull]

WE TOLD U 100 TIMES ALREADY

[pale sigil]

Her landlord is retarded

[wheat plume]

one router for 18 houses .-.

[pale sigil]

Which is locked down

[wheat plume]

even the ethernet is slow af

[fair gull]

yes

[reef patrol]

Bad mobilephone contracts often 😄

[pale sigil]

She tethers

Use usb tether

Lana

Or buy a 4g router

[fair gull]

if she usb tehters she doesnt need wifi

at all

[pale sigil]

Mhmm

Lol I'm fucked if I need to tether

I get 1mb/s

Tis painful

[fair gull]

win10 "your smartphone" app

[pale sigil]

I mean

[fair gull]

easy fix

dont need ur phone anymore

[pale sigil]

If I was in lamas situation

I'd have a cheapo or old phone for tethering

Or a 4g router

[fair gull]

lamas

LOL

i spat out my cheese

[pale sigil]

Shush

[ashen spindle]

ditch tether and return to monke

[fair gull]

@pale sigil hows ur home router situation going anyway

[pale sigil]

Pretty great

[fair gull]

glad to hear that

[pale sigil]

@reef patrol you

[fair gull]

thats

not smth uncle iroh would say

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaa-aaaaaaa-shout-yell-rat-gif-14860400

[wheat plume]

Wait, Word doesnt work on M1 Macs anymore cause they Apple dropped Rosetta?

[reef patrol]

Until Microsoft ports it. Probably?

[wheat plume]

They are working on porting it

[reef patrol]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/15/22176548/microsoft-office-native-m1-apps-apple-silicon-support

Seems like they fixed it back in December

[wheat plume]

wait, its already done?1

that was quick

[crimson wigeon]

Because as I might have said before, for most things it's just a quick recompile to new architecture and go

[fair gull]

i mean obviously they fix it quick

[ashen spindle]

... well yeah windows on arm was a thing, most bugs were already gone there

[misty saffron]

apple already dropped rosetta?

[wheat plume]

Yep

[ashen spindle]

really just a recompile for this one and not even the first version

[reef patrol]

They want their ecosystem.

[misty saffron]

fair enough

[fair gull]

so

no more x86 for me

[misty saffron]

dropping rosetta actually encourages devs to update their shit

win-win i guess

[fair gull]

it could also encourage them to move platform

to linux or windows

[misty saffron]

doubt

[wheat plume]

doubt

[fair gull]

just wait for the first macuntu distro

[wheat plume]

JingOS the first iPad OS clone

[fair gull]

missed a chance there

could have done jengaos

[wheat plume]

https://en.jingos.com/

its arm based

wow

[chrome estuary]

I'm pretty sure M1 still has Rosetta

[wheat plume]

I think only for their software now

[chrome estuary]

I'm using Discord.

[fair gull]

rosetta stone?

[wheat plume]

Discord is electron, that's already ported to arm right?

[fair gull]

yes

electron runs on pmuch anything

[wheat plume]

yep

Is Chrome native now?

[chrome estuary]

has been for a while i'm pretty sure

[wheat plume]

ah ok

[fair gull]

and wasnt it rosetta 2 now?

only x64

no x86

[chrome estuary]

No apparently Rosetta might be removed and only in very specific countries

no clue where

[fair gull]

murica

[chrome estuary]

as if

maybe some third world shithole like China or the Middle East

[fair gull]

murica is the middle east for me

and the middle west

[chrome estuary]

you know what i meant

it's likely that it won't be removed at all. As well as it's more than likely that lest you live in the middle of nowhere with super strict laws, you'll be fine. Any first world country (America, UK, Canada, etc) will be fine.

Plus I'm pretty sure Discord is still running on Rosetta and not natively yet.

[ashen spindle]

the m1 is not that drastically different from their iphone/ipad chips, anything that runs there will be able to fairly easily have a M1 version (few exceptions of course)

[wheat plume]

Windows user struggles to install Chrome on MacOS https://youtu.be/lt_1AnhgRBE

[ashen spindle]

more accurate title: lifelong pc user magically forgets how to google so I can make content

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

xd

[crisp granite]

[wheat plume]

he found out about screen recording using the built in screenshot tool

but not how to install chrome

[crisp granite]

...

dude

safari is built in

use that and search for "google chrome install"

[wheat plume]

yeah agaha

[crisp granite]

I'm pretty dumb, but even I know how to install chrome

😛

[wheat plume]

you just drag the DMG file to apps folder

[chrome estuary]

actually ngl I had trouble figuring some shit out too cause for some reason i thought it had an actually decent app store cause it just makes sense for apple

[wheat plume]

Yeah, but they dont want people to use Chrome so they leave it out of the store

[ashen spindle]

this is why I hate reddit

[chrome estuary]

Heh

fair enough

Also I wasn't trying to install Chrome. I can't remember what I was trying to get actually

[zenith sonnet]

Never. I don't trust anything I didn't fuck up myself

[reef patrol]

https://twitter.com/mifune/status/1373564866443759617?s=19

Pim de Groot (@mifune)

I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device. It behaves differently based on the orientation of the plug. https://t.co/8Ko66wPuV2

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Twitter · Mar 21, 2021, 9:19 AM

Cursed.

And yet Apple specifically has a well documented history of dropping compatibility layers exactly like that.

[crisp granite]

[analog aspen]

I don’t really get the USB-C hype people jumping in rn

Most of them jumped in without even knowing USB-C is just a form factor

[reef patrol]

Well for one. Universal cables with no "receiving" end.

We can finally retire micro usb.

[analog aspen]

If you google “why usbc” the first thing always come up is “it’s faster”

I’m like, wtf bro

[crisp granite]

USB-C is bae

[reef patrol]

So tired of having 4 different physical form factors of USB cable. Can't wait for USB C to murder them all quietly.

Recharging headphones, power bricks, printers etc.

[misty saffron]

lightning

[analog aspen]

Depends. Game controller, mouse and keyboards only need usb2.0, laptop needs 3.0

[reef patrol]

So? They still need to stop using micro USB like cavemen.

No more one way cable. They will a tuslly negotiate.

[analog aspen]

The cavemen in question are thinking that any usb c can charge a laptop

[reef patrol]

No?

[analog aspen]

Don’t believe me?

I go to Walmart and the usbc they sell are “phone usbc”

[reef patrol]

The cavemen are holding on to micro USB because it's one way. Even though handshaking was added years ago.

[analog aspen]

Doesn’t even mention it’s 2.0 or 3.0

[misty saffron]

same

god bless the 65w brick

[crisp granite]

it's 15 cents cheaper to construct

plus tooling is already there

[reef patrol]

And dollars more expensive to RMA 🤪

[analog aspen]

Tbf usbc is currently more expensive than everything else

If you fast charge your phone you gotta think about how fast wearing out your battery

[reef patrol]

If I buy a 150$ piece of tech it had better not use Micro in this day and age. Especially on devices where the cable could get strained. (Headphones, mice, controllers etc..)

Yet here we are. :joy:

[misty saffron]

mansen you’re so funny

wanna see the usb-a plug on my midi keyboard?

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

russian tech is an exception to any rule

[crisp granite]

USB A isn't that bad, honestly

[reef patrol]

USBA to USBA should never happen according to standards. I approve of the rebellion.

[fair gull]

where in the spec does it say that

[reef patrol]

Tony. The entire reason why USB type B and friends exist is because spec required cables to be one direction. Source and charge receiver.

Because USB didn't handshake. So you could theoretically send power to a PC and fry stuff.

[fair gull]

well

[misty saffron]

hahahahaha

[fair gull]

that would mean c to c is also not inside spec

[analog aspen]

Two girls should never get together because standards

[reef patrol]

No. Because with C they finally managed to hit the reset switch on that old standard officially.

C was specifically designed to be a reset.

[fair gull]

psure that modern devices also handle being send power on an a port no problem

[zenith sonnet]

Oh they will drop it as soon as adoption rates slow down as a means to force anyone not transitioning early to do so

[reef patrol]

Yes. But they can't just choose to ignore the standard in general.

[misty saffron]

wdym

nintendo did just that

[fair gull]

exactly

[crisp granite]

the standards are there to be ignored

that's why I have a 100 grain powder charge in my .22 LR hand load

wish me luck

[reef patrol]

Having edge cases doesn't dictate the industry however 😄

[fair gull]

theres enough external drives with a connectors being sold

by relatively big names in the industry

[reef patrol]

Power banks could have USB-A if they wanted to. But they'd need to ensure the cables used were actually uni directional to have them work.

[crisp granite]

um

[reef patrol]

Or physically remove TV mode from the Switch Lite... because reasons. It would have been so easy for them to add support later.

[fair gull]

i mean

how would u play a switch lite on tv without extra remotes

kinda makes sense ngl

[misty saffron]

homebrew

[fair gull]

save money by removing all the BT