🔌│tech

[zenith sonnet]

If you mean physical slots on the board, I have 4,

[astral haven]

It's not at all the same thing

Also I have 4 dimms and am running 1.2 io

[analog aspen]

ooo then it's still 4 DIMM mobo. Then idk. Maybe my OC is just bad. Maybe your bin is just better

[astral haven]

Dude

Don't compare vccio to soc

[zenith sonnet]

I think you just need to put in the work

[astral haven]

They aren't the same at all

But also you probably don't need that much

[analog aspen]

I didn't. I was praising his timing

this

[zenith sonnet]

Go back to basic, and tighten every timing individually and test it

[analog aspen]

I couldn't even get 3600 14-13-13-34 to boot xd

[astral haven]

try lower vccio

[analog aspen]

at 1.2v now

[astral haven]

high vccio is unnescessary for 2 dimms

[zenith sonnet]

On an intel CPU, this would be MUCH lower actual latency. I'm 100% sure what I hit is the limits of my IMC, not the memory itself

[analog aspen]

its dual rank tho. integral said dual rank might need more which completely threw me off

[astral haven]

oh

you have 32gb?

[analog aspen]

"might need more" = you're on your own kid

xd

[astral haven]

yea 32gb can need more volts

if 1.2 doesnt boot try 1.25

[analog aspen]

btw do you know which setting its called

i might head off to enable it

[astral haven]

real-time memory

[analog aspen]

uhhh can't find it

[astral haven]

under tweaker's paradise

or use search for real

[analog aspen]

ooo

big brain

Ok done

XTU time

Btw I really appreciate you coping with my plebness

[astral haven]

no problem

[zenith sonnet]

I find it weird that I can't find a screenshot of me posting my timings

[analog aspen]

Hmmm weird

I still have them as my favorites

I’m going back to the basic I guess

Starting over...

On widest timing I can reach 3900mhz

[astral haven]

i cant really show off my speeds and feeds because well
uh
see for yourself 😦

[analog aspen]

4000mhz won’t boot

[astral haven]

what vdimm?

[analog aspen]

1.5v and 1.35v

VCCIO

Hynix!

[astral haven]

😦

[zenith sonnet]

Great memory

[astral haven]

was 50/50 for hynix or micron
i could have paid $200 more for guaranteed micron but i just didnt have the cash

[analog aspen]

I can imagine it’s harder to get bdie now with the shortage

[astral haven]

oh no samsung isnt an option for 32gb sticks

16gbit mdie is utter garbage

as in not guaranteed to hit 3200

hynix cjr 16gbit is guaranteed 3733

[analog aspen]

Ngl I kinda regret getting this stick. Should’ve bought the Viper one 16gb for absolute bdie performance

I just didn’t know any better

[astral haven]

but micron rev b can hit 4k ez

nah

its lottery

well

the 4400 vipers are sick

thing is

16gb sticks can allow you to get better performance

[zenith sonnet]

There's also 3800 C14 Tridents

Those are also pretty darn good

[astral haven]

yea well noone has thaat much money

[zenith sonnet]

Well, Gigabyte doesn't have 1.2.0.2 out yet
So I still don't know what my sticks can do with a 5950X

Presumably pretty much the same thing

Since the IO die is the same...

But I can hit higher IF

I did have it running 2000 MHz at one point

Then whea errors

Updating BIOS

But they've all been utter garbage...

[analog aspen]

Speaking of CPU... can I squeeze more clock if I disable Hyper Threading?

[zenith sonnet]

Yesn't

Leave it on

[astral haven]

yea but its not worth it

[analog aspen]

I feel like 5.3ghz is absolute max I can get rn

[zenith sonnet]

It's not netting you more performance

[astral haven]

wait you are occt large or medium stable with 5.3???

[analog aspen]

It only need 1.4 but I can probably tight it down to at least 1.38v

[analog aspen]

Avx -1 cause I only game mainly

On League

Single core clock >>> everything else

Cause it only uses 2 cores

[astral haven]

even still

[analog aspen]

I’d imagine have 2 OC profiles 1 for League and 1 for modern games

That use HT

[zenith sonnet]

Just get a 5600X and a B550 board

Instant +30% FPS in LoL

[analog aspen]

Isn’t Ryzen the new overpriced CPU vendor

[astral haven]

5800x overpriced

everything else fine

[analog aspen]

Also I can’t use 16 cores not to mention 9999 cores

On a game that only use 2 cores

[zenith sonnet]

5600X has 6 cores

[astral haven]

5600x is 6 cores lel

[analog aspen]

Ooo

Wait 5600x single core performance > 9900k?

👀👀👀

[astral haven]

yup*

[zenith sonnet]

It's an easy 30% faster in LoL

[analog aspen]

Damn. Howwww

That’s nutty

[zenith sonnet]

Cache. Massive cache.

[astral haven]

oh right sky did you disable vmx?

[analog aspen]

Btw my cache ratio is 45x is that good or no

What’s vmx

[astral haven]

virtualization

check task manager

9900k should say this for optimal performance

[analog aspen]

Ye it did but by default

Don’t think I know about it

[astral haven]

aight

asus might have enabled it when you enabled xmp

[analog aspen]

Hmmm virtual machine

Kinda cool I’ll keep an eye out for that from now on

Btw my cache ratio is 45x is that good or no

[astral haven]

enabling it allows you to run linux while running windows, disabled = better perf

45 isnt that high 🤷‍♂️

but it doesnt matter much

[analog aspen]

It’s legit default

I never touched it

[astral haven]

you can probably set 48

[analog aspen]

Is it worth it

[astral haven]

i mean theres no downside

[analog aspen]

If I set it to 28 will I finally be able to get 54x when HT off

[astral haven]

well no

if you arent stable at max stable ring, the oc isnt actually stable

[analog aspen]

If I OC only 2 cores

To 54x

And the rest 39x

Will that work ever

[astral haven]

you cant pick which cores will be at 54

so if any of your cores arent stable at 5.4 you get rekt

[zenith sonnet]

Per core OC is a thing, though

On my last intel platform I was able to set multi for each core individually

[astral haven]

hedt only

[analog aspen]

I have been able to as well

[astral haven]

they give you the option on msdt but it doesnt work

[analog aspen]

Whenever I try to bench the system with XTU watch dog kicks in

I guess 5.3ghz isn’t stable at 1.4v as I thought

I’m just able to do everything on it

[astral haven]

have you run occt on it?

[analog aspen]

I’m on it now

Better get CPU out of the way before mingling with RAM

Cause CPU OC cause stable RAM OC to become unstable

[zenith sonnet]

Not really...

[astral haven]

^

unstable ram oc is unstable

[zenith sonnet]

If either is stable, they're stable together

[astral haven]

ram oc can cause a previously invisibly unstable cpu oc to be visibly unstable tho

[analog aspen]

Meaning 1 unstable won’t cause both become unstable?

That’s good to know

[astral haven]

no

if 1 is unstable both will appear to be unstable

[analog aspen]

Welp time to revert to XMP, then bench the CPU

[astral haven]

dont forget to save your profile

[zenith sonnet]

It's a good idea to OC memory at 5.0 GHz, for good measure
That way you can be 100% sure the CPU is stable

[astral haven]

well 5ghz doesnt 100% guarantee stable cpu

[zenith sonnet]

99.9%

[analog aspen]

Not on the 9900k at least

[astral haven]

ye

well not on any cpus that exist

[analog aspen]

I’m pretty sure I’ve hit a low jackpot

Not the best jackpot but pretty good CPU bin

And really shitty bdie bin in return

[zenith sonnet]

My CPU runs 5.05GHz all stock

Should be stable :p

[astral haven]

nah i have shitty bdie

my bdie doesnt hit 3800 whatsoever

[analog aspen]

If I really want stable 5.2ghz 1.33v is really stable for me

But I want that 5,4hjz

[zenith sonnet]

What for?

Makes no sense

1 FPS in LoL?

Not worth it

[astral haven]

you can get a toooon of fps with a proper oc

[zenith sonnet]

If you're actually having fun overclocking, by all means go for it :p

[zenith sonnet]

Ye, but not going from 5.2 to 5.4

[analog aspen]

Idk 5.3ghz gets me really close to stable 240fps. 5.2ghz is nowhere near it

[astral haven]

remember skylake ocd to the max is still the fastest platform single core

alot faster than zen 3

[analog aspen]

I’m 100% confident if it does hit 5.4ghz it’ll stay stable 240fps

[zenith sonnet]

Not it in LoL it isn't

[astral haven]

you benched lol on a skylake system with sub 30ns ram?

its faaaaast

[zenith sonnet]

Zen 3 is stupid fast in LoL

Not even funny kind of fast

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️ skylake go brr when volts go brr too

[analog aspen]

Can’t even bench that game. You have to go into Summoner’s Rift and play a game out then read the logs
Lazy benchmarkers go into Training tool and call it a day with stable 500fps+

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️

lets just say that csgo which is entirely zen 3 even with moderate ocs on both sides gets demolished by properly tuned skylake

like this is what poorly tuned sky looks like

completely wrecked by z3

[analog aspen]

Hmmm nothing wrong with my CPU OC I guess

Guess I just can’t bench my system cause of the unstable RAM

Wdym wasted frame

[zenith sonnet]

This is also poorly tuned Zen 3

[astral haven]

zen 3 doesnt double from tuning

now sky can only double from tuning in rare scenarios

but its still a thing that happens

i play osu lel at 4k fps

[analog aspen]

Down clocked ram to 3000mhz. OCCT doesn’t detect CPU error. Watch dog still kicks in when I’m trying to benchmark

I’m clueless now

[astral haven]

benchmark what?

[analog aspen]

Nah I want LoL to stable at 240fps with my 240hz monitor

[analog aspen]

XTU benchmark

[astral haven]

xtu does avx

also which occt did you pick

[analog aspen]

Medium set

[astral haven]

medium is the weakest

[analog aspen]

Auto on the AVX option

[astral haven]

large is less weak

[analog aspen]

Should I choose AVX instead of auto

[astral haven]

small is burn

its doing avx but you can if you want

[analog aspen]

League is not AVX tho so the question is do I really need it to be AVX-stable

[astral haven]

yes

you can also do sse only

[analog aspen]

That’s just because they spend more time playing the game than mingling with settings. Riot told them to cap their game at 144fps on 240hz and they did

[astral haven]

fcat is only useful if you want the actual numbers
if you are trying to hit a minimum, and your software measuring does hit that minimum, you are good

🤷‍♂️ fcat doesnt change anything on that front

no?

[zenith sonnet]

It's 8:30 and the wife is gonna be angry I'm not in bed yet
So have fun

[astral haven]

fcat just measures, how you get the %s out is up to you

[zenith sonnet]

08:30

[astral haven]

yikes

[analog aspen]

Good night Xeanoa thanks for hanging

[reef patrol]

So close to selling my Omen PC.

Eeeeeeeeeee

I hate the suspense.

[analog aspen]

Teach me how to sell a full build

[reef patrol]

Step 1 : Have it be brand new xD

Alternatively get/borrow a bikeshop compressor and blow the PC (up) clean. Organise cables neatly.

Take some good pics of it. Set a fair price that encourages a bit of bidding. Get lucky 😄

[wheat plume]

Hmm
The workspace previews are too small :/ in the new gnome 40 ui
https://youtu.be/LeVxfzQ0LiM

[analog aspen]

On eBay? 👀

eBay is intimidating I don’t even know how to package properly a PC for shipping

[reef patrol]

I use Facebook and the danish equivalent of Craigslist 🙂

[analog aspen]

Yeah I use Facebook but I make people go into my house because I don’t wanna pack shit 🙂 also pay me cash cause I don’t have a card swipe

[reef tundra]

Cash money

[pale sigil]

Evga still haven't sent out replacement psu xD

[reef patrol]

Doing the F5 thing on my EK watercooling order...even though I damn well know it won't arrive for days 😄

[pale sigil]

I just want them to send it before credit statement comes up

XD

So i can refund it

Without having to pay it off

First

[misty saffron]

weirdchamp

[pale sigil]

Irs an advanced rma so I had to pay collateral

[halcyon moss]

damn, my NAS is almost full... time to delete some stargate episodes...

[pale sigil]

How big is ya NAS

[halcyon moss]

4TB

i think its mostly laptop backups though

[pale sigil]

I run pc backups

But I only keep 3 copies

[halcyon moss]

ohno, bad sectors on one disk

[misty saffron]

https://up.hw.gl/EYcEZk2mjw.png

imagine having a nas

[halcyon moss]

imagine having more than one system

[misty saffron]

well

i have a second pc for driver dev

[pale sigil]

Well, I don't have anything on my laptop I care about

[halcyon moss]

imagine having more than one user

[pale sigil]

I do 🤣

My sister and mum

But all their data is stored on one drive

[halcyon moss]

not talking to you claire :p

[reef tundra]

Imagine having data

[misty saffron]

callum since when are you claire

[halcyon moss]

should i upgrade the disk size...?

[reef tundra]

Download more ram

[halcyon moss]

its a synology nas, i wonder how it would handle that

[analog aspen]

Had the same question for awhile now

[halcyon moss]

should i get a second nas with new drives? 🤔

[analog aspen]

#pcmasterace

[wheat plume]

It would have to be 3 times better than this to be considered complete crap

https://youtu.be/1Cq-rkr_taU

[pale sigil]

Apple have already discontinued the full size home pod lol

[fair gull]

bush

heheh

[wheat plume]

I used to have a tv from bush
Built in dvd player

[cursive summit]

BUSH?

https://tenor.com/view/george-bush-president-gif-11025896

[wheat plume]

Yes

[vagrant pagoda]

this monitor issue is going to kill me lol

[wheat plume]

Hmm?

[vagrant pagoda]

i have narrowed it down to it only working at hdmi 1.2

[reef patrol]

Dying cable?

[vagrant pagoda]

tried differnt cables, and its 3 monitors all at once

[reef patrol]

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

i dont know why mobo/cpu would cause the gpu to not get the right pixel clocks

[proud nacelle]

anyone know of a good DisplayPort to DVI-D on amazon? (there isn't a single store on this island which sells them ffs)

[fair gull]

id get a multi 3 dongle if ure already buying one

[reef patrol]

Just keep limitations in mind. 60hz etc..

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah you need an active or passive adapter?

[proud nacelle]

no clue.

[reef patrol]

No such thing as a passive adapter in this case.

[vagrant pagoda]

what resolution?

[proud nacelle]

and limitations aren't an issue. 1920x1080

[fair gull]

was about to ask if theres passive dp adapters

[proud nacelle]

it's an old shitty monitor which only has vga or dvi-d

[fair gull]

maybe for hdmi only

[reef patrol]

Any old adapter will work.

[vagrant pagoda]

yes DP supports single link dvi without active adapters

[reef patrol]

It's only for gaming where adapters become pricy.

[astral haven]

No, displayport is a different protocol from dvi

[proud nacelle]

jesus you weren't fucking joking

200 dollars?

[reef patrol]

If you want more than 60hz it's insane 😄

[proud nacelle]

at that point better off buying a monitor

[reef patrol]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DisplayPort-Adapter-Display-Converter-Gold-Plated/dp/B01LGITGY0/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=dp+to+dvi&qid=1615658546&sr=8-6

Random one here.

Early 144hz gaming monitors only had DVI.

[fair gull]

gold plated for more frames

[proud nacelle]

gold plated is useless for digital

only good for analog

[reef patrol]

I could repeat myself asleep at one point, because people came in asking for a 144hz adapter for their gaming monitors, cause nVidia removed DVI.

[vagrant pagoda]

DP standard includes passive support for DVI on dual mode ports

[reef patrol]

They're all gold plated these days

[vagrant pagoda]

every gpu has dual mode ports

[astral haven]

Still requires a chip 🤷

[vagrant pagoda]

so they support single link dvi and hdmi passivelu

[reef patrol]

Find me an adaptor dongle or cable that claims 144hz from DP to DVI. I'll wait.

[proud nacelle]

easy to do mansen

[reef patrol]

(That isn't a couple hundred bucks - because those are active)

[vagrant pagoda]

there is no signal conversion in the adapter

[proud nacelle]

doesn't mean it's true though

[vagrant pagoda]

its just logic level

[reef patrol]

Still waiting. 😉

[astral haven]

Still not passive

[vagrant pagoda]

DP is 3.3 and hdmi and dvi are 5v

[vagrant pagoda]

they are called passive

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-op-gif-8561449

[vagrant pagoda]

by vesa

[proud nacelle]

right, so as long as i don't need dual-link, i'm good?

[vagrant pagoda]

yes

[reef patrol]

As long as you don't need 144hz you can buy whatever.

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

you can do 144hz 640p

[proud nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-knight-father-bread-boys-crusader-gif-18266778

[reef patrol]

So much for that DVI-D passive support 😛

[vagrant pagoda]

i never said dual link

[reef patrol]

Then your entire argument was irrelevant. Cause literally any cable or adapter will do single link xD

[proud nacelle]

is there a reason DVI-D got killed off anyway?

[reef patrol]

Like any 1 buck cable.

Bandwidth limitations. More metal per connector etc...

[astral haven]

Hdmi mage

[vagrant pagoda]

dvi takes a very very fast clock

and tight timing

[reef patrol]

RIP 144hz DVI owners. Talk about losing the early adoption race 😄

[astral haven]

Hdmi takes a faster clock 🤷

[proud nacelle]

So, HDMI existed, timing issues and cost?

[reef patrol]

HDMI has a licensing cost. DVI and DP do not. 🙂

[proud nacelle]

^^

[astral haven]

Also it isn't convenient or small

[fair gull]

we should go back to vga

[proud nacelle]

Ah yes, because having a connector ever so slightly large is an inconvenience

[vagrant pagoda]

DVI has a lot of data lanes, and they all have to get to the monitor at the same time or errors

hdmi and dp are encoded

and self timed

[astral haven]

It's an inconvenience for manufacturers

[proud nacelle]

At that point all GPUs should have mini DisplayPort or HDMI then eh?

Jokes aside

[reef patrol]

Some did.

[proud nacelle]

If DP is compressed, that would make sense

[astral haven]

Not compressed by default

[reef patrol]

I remember GPUs with only DP Mini and regular HDMI.

[astral haven]

Just encoded

[reef patrol]

Uh no.

[proud nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/disgonbegood-excited-gif-5151999

[reef patrol]

Dual Link did 1080@144 😂

[astral haven]

I've got a gpu with dvi + 4 mini dp

[vagrant pagoda]

encode =/= compressed

[astral haven]

^

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

LFH gang assemble

[vagrant pagoda]

og dvi-d video cards could overclock the pixel clock

[fair gull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-force_helix

[vagrant pagoda]

and push them pretty hard with good cables and a good monitor

[proud nacelle]

what the fuck have i started again

[astral haven]

Dms59 is the name of the gpu connector

[vagrant pagoda]

144hz 1080p wasnt hard

[astral haven]

I've got a pair of gpus that use that cursed connector

[fair gull]

i had some

they got trashed

only kept the adapter that goes on them for dual dvi

[vagrant pagoda]

144hz is only like 310mhz for dvi-d

not terrible

i dont think you can do any oc on a dp adapter though

the nvidia ramdacs could be pushed pretty hard

lol

[proud nacelle]

That's a feature

[vagrant pagoda]

also

I have a FW900

havent used it in YEARS

but with a good ramdac over VGA you could squeeze out 120hz 720

and 90hz 1440p

[reef patrol]

https://imgur.com/gallery/xNkAakK

I uh... I think I need to get me some Strimers.

[proud nacelle]

Aight that's neat

[vagrant pagoda]

@reef patrol what software do you use?

[reef patrol]

That's... not mine. Should be obvious from the text 😄

[vagrant pagoda]

for rgb

ah

[reef patrol]

I use iCue for all of my RGB. Since I have corsair fans.

[vagrant pagoda]

i used openrgb on my last setup

but now

[fair gull]

i turn off all my rgb

cause i d c

[reef patrol]

Well no. Technically I use G.Skill and ASRock's apps as well. But everything is static so they don't need to be open ever.

[vagrant pagoda]

they dont support my razer board

i should of just got a normal taichi and painted it black

[ashen spindle]

I just didn't connect the cable from my fans

[vagrant pagoda]

also i need to get a 3xxx card so it has working rgb lol

[zenith sonnet]

That looks near for two seconds, but I can only imagine it being annoying after a minute or two

[reef patrol]

I don't notice RGB effects after a few minutes.

[zenith sonnet]

Oh I will

[reef patrol]

So... wouldn't affect me. But would look awesome at a convention.

I need it for fan control regardless. So... I'm fucked 😄

[wheat plume]

OpenRGB

[zenith sonnet]

I wanna use an Octo controller when I upgrade

[proud nacelle]

You could always change the fan yourself...

[zenith sonnet]

Any good PSU will have fan idle until 400-500W+

[proud nacelle]

But warranty might be voided and you also have the chance of electrocuting yourself.

Also you have to take into account measurements

[zenith sonnet]

By the time my Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium's (fuck that name, honestly) fan kicks in, I can't even hear it over ambient

It's more or less the same PSU as the fanless one

Just higher wattage

And a fan for when you actually need it

I wish I could check for sure

But I think the fan has NEVER turned on during use

There is not a spec of dust on the PSU intake dust filter

After a year of use, that is

Imagine a market for Noctua hooker coupons

[cursive summit]

I'm prolly the only one who hates shit like this

It's just completely useless, energy wasting shit that is of no real value to anyone

If anything it's distracting, more expensive, etc

[proud nacelle]

I mean you're not wrong at the end of the day

But seeing it, it is nice.

[vagrant pagoda]

openrgb gets rid of the spyware

[proud nacelle]

No rgb gets rid of the need of openrgb or spyware

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean

can you even buy good hardware without rgb

[misty pier]

mines has some backlighting which is better than that

[proud nacelle]

@prisma crag If you're an extremist, you could desolder the damn things

[misty pier]

why void your warranty though

[proud nacelle]

Well if you're complaining about an LED that much... I don't think warranty is on his mind

Just put some electric tape or something

Or look for a setting inside the display, there's generally one to turn off the LED

Nono, electric tape

Gross but at least it does actually block the LEDs

Not to mention it stays sticky. It doesn't fall over after a day of use

Why yes, I did

Either from it leaving residue or it not sticking

[fair gull]

i dont use tape to turn them off

i just desolder them

[proud nacelle]

So what you're saying is

I need to buy good tape?

I've bought multiple different rolls, all of them exhibit the same issues

Then again they're from dollarama so

[reef patrol]

Black marker/Tiny piece of electrical tape cut to size?

It's the wank alert. You're not in any doubt that you're currently broadcasting loud pron to everyone in the chat 😛

[proud nacelle]

@reef patrol You've never heard of unplugging?

[astral haven]

I put electrical tape over mine

[proud nacelle]

Could always replace it

[reef patrol]

That is for the weak and nimble.

[proud nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef patrol]

Oh HECK yes. Sold the Omen PC.

Now I just gotta flog the 2080

[crisp granite]

noice

[crisp granite]

you'll probably be able to sell it for more than you got it for

[reef patrol]

Naw. Not quite.

[crisp granite]

because current GPU market is shit

[crisp granite]

my buddy recently bought a 1080...

for $550 CAD

[reef patrol]

As long as I get 540€ I'm happy.

650 USD*

[crisp granite]

you easily will

probably more

not even kidding

I think bidding will bring it up higher than €600

[reef patrol]

People aren't quite that desperate here yet. At least for last gen cards below the 2080TI.

[crisp granite]

hm

[reef patrol]

Got a bid tomorrow for the asking amount. And then I can sell the waterblock for a bit as well.

[crisp granite]

here, 2070 non super cards are selling for $600 at least

it's wild

considering they sold for $500-$600 in stores before they were discontinued

[vagrant pagoda]

i almost sold my 1080ti when i got a 3080

but then i was smart

sold the 3080 for profit

and kept the 1080ti

and now even a 1080ti is big money

[crisp granite]

but

RT

and DLSS

[vagrant pagoda]

kek

tbo

[crisp granite]

you gave that up?

[vagrant pagoda]

the only thing i want it for

is minecraft and quake

but in MC no mods

so its meh

[crisp granite]

oh

so you really didn't need the horsepower

[vagrant pagoda]

oh

i play lots of games

but rt is meh

i play at 4k

it isnt worth the hit

[crisp granite]

ah

I play at 1080p

so RT is actually usable for me

and most of the games I play, I actually do play with RT

considering I only really play 2 at the moment

[zenith sonnet]

So...
For two players sitting in one room, for online play with VoIP
Is there any solution that works well with headphones?

Or will you just have to get two proper headsets?

[astral haven]

Or 2 regular mics

[zenith sonnet]

I may be to stupid to set them up
But I got a desk mic and it pics up everything

I could talk with you from the kitchen two rooms over

Isolate it from what?

But how would that stop it from picking up someone talking 2m behind me

It's just a cheap Blue Snowball, so maybe?

Cheap?

I dunno

[pale sigil]

Snowballs pick everything upb

Everything

[edgy hull]

you measuring latency via Aida64 mem test? Cuz CPU cache speed matter a lot for that too

[pale sigil]

It shouldn't be used as a desk mic

[edgy hull]

which kinda makes aida mem benchmark a bit meh cuz CPU cache is an unwanted variable in this case

[pale sigil]

A good solution is a desk arm

Snowballs aren't bad, they just shouldn't be used as a desk mic

[edgy hull]

fifine 669/670 be quite nice

there are some other options now tho

idk the names

[pale sigil]

Been using one of these for 5 or so years now

With my snowball and a pop filter

Nvidia voice is also a great option

[vagrant pagoda]

even cheap- $20 ebay specials will work

[pale sigil]

Ye that's what I got a cheap one

For like £8

[vagrant pagoda]

i had a arm+mic combo from china for like 5 years

i got a used deal local on a razer siren pro for $40

so i run that now

[zenith sonnet]

It doesn't have to be the cheapest, but something that can be set up to not pick up other people speaking in the same room would be nice

[vagrant pagoda]

its WAY better

but the noise isolation isnt any better

[pale sigil]

Bitch

Do what I say

[crisp granite]

just reminding you, that ain't Ty you're taking to

[pale sigil]

Mic arm, pop filter with 85% volume

Sorted

[zenith sonnet]

You literally just said the Snowball picks up everything

[pale sigil]

Bonus being nvidia voice

Yes but using a mic arm can eliminate that

Because you can reduce the overall sensativity

Since its next to your mouth now

[zenith sonnet]

If it picks up someone two rooms over without an arm, it will still do so with an arm

[pale sigil]

It won't

Swear to god

Literally have a snowball

Try reducing your sensativity rn to 85%

In windows

[astral haven]

Pop filter

[pale sigil]

Which is what I also suggested

[vagrant pagoda]

a mic that is close can have the gain lower

[astral haven]

More important than the arm

[vagrant pagoda]

and picks up less background noise

[pale sigil]

No

Doesn't have anything

[vagrant pagoda]

F

[astral haven]

Shoulda gotten a Samson go

[vagrant pagoda]

what i hate

is no voip dose stereo

discord can do stereo for bots

but livestreams and voice dont have stereo

[pale sigil]

Nvm

Kg does

It

Which probably explains why I said

Using an arm and pop filter help a lot

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a dead rabbit

no pop filter

works good

[pale sigil]

This would all go away

If you also used nvidia voice

Js

[zenith sonnet]

It does

[pale sigil]

You can't talk

You're using it wrong

[zenith sonnet]

Where would you put it?

[reef tundra]

Some mics are very monodirectional

[zenith sonnet]

You can't really put it in the space between yourself and the monitor

Well, that might sorta work

[pale sigil]

Clearly not

As you're here

XD

[astral haven]

My mic is behind my monitor lol

[pale sigil]

Bitch

Get that arm back

Also is that a ups

Wouldn't mind one myself

[shadow minnow]

Moved 150gb of photos to HDD from my phone, time to reinstall all the apps I had to uninstall cause of full storage

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow bet you 90% of them images are just random pics of the floor or a tree

😂

[shadow minnow]

Not really. Like half of them were useless screenshots and half basically photos from outside, nearly no floor ones

[edgy hull]

anything is a floor if you're brave enough

[ashen spindle]

does anyone have experience with dual booting two windows in the same pc?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[cursive summit]

Um I think Unraid does that

Technically running 2 VM's in Unraid would do the trick

It works quite well I heard

[ashen spindle]

well I guess not classic dual boot, atm I have two pcs, was wondering if I can just put the drives from A to B and then on boot either go into A or B

no vm, no shared drives etc.

[analog aspen]

I used memmaxx2

[edgy hull]

dont know how much cpu cache changes that so idk

could test it tho with changing cache yourself by an okay amount

[analog aspen]

I never touched cache

[reef tundra]

The only way to know for sure is to test with real hardware

[analog aspen]

It’s still x45

[analog aspen]

Real lord panda

[edgy hull]

increase/decrease it by a bit and see how much latency changes

havent touched intel CPUs so idk cache OC average

[analog aspen]

Memory?

Damn

[wheat plume]

"Just tried an iPhone 12 Pro – what an incredibly clunky piece of hardware. It looks and feels like an oversized version of an iPhone 5 from 2012, but with an ugly array of cameras sticking out at three different heights. The notorious notch and wide bezels are still there, creating a low screen-to-body ratio and general outdated feeling for the device.

9 years after Steve Jobs died, the company is still living off the technology and reputation he built, without any meaningful innovation. It’s no surprise iPhone sales were down by 21% earlier this year. If this trend continues, in 7-10 years time the global market share of iPhones will be negligible."

That last paragraph ain't wrong though ;_;

[ashen spindle]

uhhh

yeah expect sales are up 21% not down

so kinda very wrong

[wheat plume]

Oh? I thought this last few months were down?

Idk
I don't keep track of sales for any phone brand

[ivory geyser]

@wheat plume I think you need a new matching avatar for the new name and status text... this one is too... wholesome, no? xD

[wheat plume]

Hmm
Uses old google account photo

If I can find it I will

[ivory geyser]

Also, why the change while we are at it?

[ashen spindle]

also I'll probably end up getting a iphone 13 this year so idc really if the sales go up or down

[wheat plume]

Cause this song is how I feel

[misty saffron]

ficke# iphone man

[wheat plume]

There's a song by night club named miss negative

[analog aspen]

Use this

[misty saffron]

uphobe sucks

[wheat plume]

Nah xd
Not a fan of that movie

[ivory geyser]

Eehhh

Too pop-ish fort me, that song

[analog aspen]

You don’t like Jim Burton? Or just that movie

[wheat plume]

I like the lyrics
Very relatable

[misty saffron]

hello @wheat plume

[wheat plume]

That movie

Hallo hallow

[misty saffron]

you the best ❤️

[wheat plume]

Nah m8

The best at being self deprecating maybe

[misty saffron]

self what

[wheat plume]

Saying negative shit about myself

[analog aspen]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/frankenweenie/images/e/e0/WeirdGirlPromo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120830071153

[misty saffron]

why

[wheat plume]

Reminds me of momo.... Oh gosh

[analog aspen]

https://i.insider.com/5fbfc9a2037cbd00186127de?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[misty saffron]

you good person why negative

[wheat plume]

My personality online is nice

I like it
But irl I'm so dry and sarcastic

[misty saffron]

no you good

[ivory geyser]

@wheat plume why self-deprecating?

Do you lack self-confidence Lana?

[wheat plume]

Self confidence is in the minuses

[ivory geyser]

Hmm, not good.

How did that happen?

[misty saffron]

let it be positive wtf

i am the expert in human

i say you good person

[ivory geyser]

Being a good person doesnt give you confidence.

At least not on its own

[misty saffron]

you confident as well then

duck incomfidwmce

[ashen spindle]

hollow how much Russian Water™ did you have?

[misty saffron]

yes

[wheat plume]

Gosh
I wonder why I have no confidence

[misty saffron]

all irrelevant

[wheat plume]

Nah

[misty saffron]

be yourself and do what makes you happy

[wheat plume]

I literally can't

[misty saffron]

you get mx

[wheat plume]

I'm at work for most of the day each day and then I have to go home on weekends .-.
Can't even do lipstick or nail polish without being kicked out

Said I wanna get my hair grown out
Mom said I'd look like a pedo band singer from the 80s if I did that

[ivory geyser]

I could comment on this with a little bit of psychological analysis, but I dont want to sound like as ass, so I am not sure if I should since people tend to be touchy about these topics.

[wheat plume]

Go ahead

I've heard it all

[ivory geyser]

@wheat plume But have you heard THIS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI

[wheat plume]

Sister? I thought it was sisters
Nannni

Life is a lie

[misty saffron]

all i’d say is you live for yourself and not anyone else

[ivory geyser]

Watch the video

It is epic xD

[wheat plume]

Can't rn

I'm in living room with no headphones

[ivory geyser]

Then watch it later

[wheat plume]

Yep

[misty saffron]

whatever the fuck you do is your business and not anyone else’s

[wheat plume]

It is when I'm not totally independent yet

[wheat plume]

Ohhh
I do know this song !!

[ivory geyser]

Either way, as for my attempted psycho-analyses - To me it sounds like you have the gender dysphoria as an escapist, coping mechanism due to feeling like utter failure in whatever "social role" you were "supposed to be fulfilling". I think it a desperate attempts of your mind trying to be something else in order to be accepted and liked for instead of the things that went horribly wrong for you in the first place.

I dont mean this in some insulting, judging or negative way; it is simply how the situations looks to me from an outsider perspective after what you told me just now.

Warned ya and asked beforehand... so....

[wheat plume]

I know for fucking sure I'm not cis anyway

But yeh
:/ Idk

I'm just dead inside

[ivory geyser]

Eh, I dont care who is what Lana, genders never made much sense to me to begin with.

Humans have some unhealthy obsessions with being or not being some in the first place.

[misty saffron]

hey look we love you either way cause you’re the best person ever

[ivory geyser]

It is weird to me

[misty saffron]

honest

[wheat plume]

Same here

[wheat plume]

❤️
I love you all too

[ivory geyser]

I dont give 2 fucks about people's genders as long as people dont rub them in my face tbh

[wheat plume]

^^

[ivory geyser]

A trigger-happy trans person is about as annoying as a super-macho jock.

It is about the person, ya know.

And how they deal with life.

[wheat plume]

I don't get triggered
Unless it's harmful shit

Although, it it hurts the person saying / doing it then go off

[ivory geyser]

You need some people IRL to help you get out of the shitfest you are in.

Or move out and try to stand on your own legs.

[wheat plume]

All the people I care about I only talk to online cause they live far away or in another country

My friends in college call me by my dead name and pronouns :/

I need to ask them not to

But idk
One of them said I need a better name cause apparently Lana is an Asian name
Makes no since cause it's got irish origin

And some other country but it wasn't asian

[true quest]

when i hear lana i hear archer lol

[wheat plume]

Shhh
You'll trigger mansen

[misty saffron]

they just tryna be annoying otherwise idk wtf they wanna say

[true quest]

Lana

[wheat plume]

Don't you start :')

[true quest]

Lana!

[wheat plume]

WHAT!

[true quest]

LANAAAAAAA!!!!!

[wheat plume]

:')

Shhh xd

[misty saffron]

lana sounds rather nice

[wheat plume]

Indeed!

[analog aspen]

Lana is Asian name?

[wheat plume]

Idk why he thinks so

[analog aspen]

Where do you live Lana

I mean country

[crisp granite]

I've stopped worrying about the ethnicity of names

[wheat plume]

The place beside the wasteland that's called england

[crisp granite]

the land of lucky charms and pots of gold?

kekw

[analog aspen]

That’s some stereotype shit right there

[crisp granite]

I know

ireland is anything but

[wheat plume]

:") ironically you can't buy lucky charms cereal here

[analog aspen]

Nguyen is Asian name

[crisp granite]

wut?

no way

[analog aspen]

Jung Cook is Asian name

[wheat plume]

Ikr

It's sad

[analog aspen]

Yi Ling Hao is Asian name

[wheat plume]

That was my ex's surname xdd

[crisp granite]

like half of vietnam has that surname iirc

[analog aspen]

How the f anybody born a child in Asia and name them by English

[wheat plume]

Yeahhhhh

[analog aspen]

Cause it was the last king’s surname

[wheat plume]

Oo

[crisp granite]

just because some guy called Nguyen thought he was so fucking cool

and made it law for people to adopt that name too

[misty saffron]

oh that’s why the surname is so popular

til

[crisp granite]

some held onto it after the fact

[analog aspen]

Nah people wanted to adopt the king’s last name opposite mate

[crisp granite]

really?

seems kinda dumb

[analog aspen]

Lmfao do you wanna be named Smith

[crisp granite]

hell nah

[misty saffron]

i love you all you cunts

[analog aspen]

I’ll call you Smith from now on

[crisp granite]

but Nguyen is the Smith of the vietnamese world

[analog aspen]

You know what’s worse? It’s my first name

[misty saffron]

fuck man i’m drunk

[analog aspen]

So I came to America and people were like “you sure that’s not your last name?”

[crisp granite]

so...you aren't the soberest man of the room?

sadge

[misty saffron]

no i’m the sober

[wheat plume]

The least unsober

[misty saffron]

i feel like i wanna go home but i don’t wanna wake friend

[analog aspen]

@wheat plume your name is beautiful f that guy

[misty saffron]

home is like 100m away

[crisp granite]

I'm not sober but at least I can seem half functional when I'm not

clearly I've had too much practice

and have perfected the art

[misty saffron]

what art

[crisp granite]

this is the art ^^

[misty saffron]

i am very not function

[wheat plume]

My irl friend is able to act perfectly sober even if drunk af or high af xd
It's amazing

[misty saffron]

how

[wheat plume]

Idk xd

[crisp granite]

practice

lots and lots of practice

[wheat plume]

^^

And he's only 21

[analog aspen]

How long he been practicing

[misty saffron]

i want the skills s as well

[analog aspen]

Legal drinking age in US is 21 not sure about UK

[wheat plume]

Perhaps less than legally for a while

[wheat plume]

17

[analog aspen]

That makes sense cause I was uhhh

He learned that in 1 year? XD

[wheat plume]

Xd

[crisp granite]

one year of dedicated practice

[wheat plume]

Hahahahaha

[misty saffron]

different what

[wheat plume]

He saved someone's life once at a party

[misty saffron]

oh dedicate

d

[crisp granite]

I also don't do like half a bottle of hard stuff in one go

I ease my way up

like 3 beers to start

[wheat plume]

The guy took too much alcohol and passed out and he was also high and drunk and kept thengiu conscious until hell arrived

I can't type

Gg me

[misty saffron]

neither

[crisp granite]

mhm

my accuracy is in the 50% range rn

so you're only seeing about half of what I type

[wheat plume]

I can type fine on my laptop but my phone and desktop are iffy

[misty saffron]

fuck man i really don’t wanna wake my mates

but i wanna go home

[wheat plume]

I love my laptop keyboard

[pale sigil]

Stupid smart bulb won't find my router suddenly

[misty saffron]

what do

[wheat plume]

howd you wake them?

go out the door and leave

[crisp granite]

use that high stealth skill and sneak out

[wheat plume]

pretend its skyrim and no one can see you if you crouch

[misty saffron]

dude i drank half a liter of whiskey how do you expect me to stealth

[wheat plume]

:')

[crisp granite]

crawl

[analog aspen]

Just go home man or find friends that still awake and can take you in for the night

[crisp granite]

seriously, @misty saffron, lower centre of gravity ftw

[misty saffron]

what

[crisp granite]

the lower you are, the less likely you are to fall over and alert someone

[analog aspen]

Not sure if serious

[crisp granite]

once you get to the door, get up carefully, open it slowly

[analog aspen]

Hollow is more sober at this point

[crisp granite]

and just slip out

[misty saffron]

bro if they see me crawling they think i’m brain damaged i’m telling you

[crisp granite]

:)

[crisp granite]

I am moreso

why come to me for advice?

just fucking yolo it at this point

[misty saffron]

idk who else do i ask

[crisp granite]

or crash then and there

[misty saffron]

girlfriend telling me i can come over but like i so don’t wanna leave friends house

[crisp granite]

then don't leave

[misty saffron]

cause i wake them

[crisp granite]

tell her to watch return of the sith alone

be a shit BF

[misty saffron]

but i don’t wanna be here either cause bed so uncomfy

[crisp granite]

I personally like my idea of crawling out

if your homies are sound asleep and you do nothing to wake them, it'll be fine

and you can stumble home

[misty saffron]

hmmm

can’t i just tell them to duck off if they wake

[analog aspen]

Sleep on the floor best ergo since 999999+ BC

[wheat plume]

my friends would understand I left them if I was going to a girlfriend :')

theyd be like "fair enough"

[misty saffron]

mate it’s 5am

[wheat plume]

LOL

oh

[analog aspen]

Night still young

[misty saffron]

i swear i just can’t fall asleep with bed so fucking bad

that why i wanna leave

[analog aspen]

Kid you not

[wheat plume]

I slept on the floor once, cause the house was too hot to sleep in the bed

at my friends house ahaha

[misty saffron]

actually i sleep with open window all the time cause it’s so fucking hot all the time

[wheat plume]

no wonder he gets sick so easily
Literal Hell is colder than his house .-.

[analog aspen]

Only once? 🥲 white people gotta start stop wearing shoes in their house, in their own room at least

[misty saffron]

like if the window not open i wake up in the middle of night all sweaty as fuck

[wheat plume]

I always wear shoes, too cold at my house

and jacket too

[misty saffron]

you what

[analog aspen]

Wear socks

[wheat plume]

I DO

[analog aspen]

You take your shoes off when you’re in bed

[misty saffron]

very not russian of you

i’m naked when home

[analog aspen]

Get M size sock then X then XL then XXL

Guarantee to help you feel things

[misty saffron]

each person who reads this i love you

[analog aspen]

At least you’re half sober

[misty saffron]

i think it’s less than half

[analog aspen]

Does being sober makes it easier to sleep?

[misty saffron]

i haven’t tried standing up

[wheat plume]

then too hot, I have a very limited temperature range that im comfy in

[analog aspen]

That’s true

[wheat plume]

that being said, I prefer being slightly too cold than slightly too hot

[analog aspen]

Same

[misty saffron]

fuck the hour am i right

hot

not hour

[analog aspen]

Hot is fine

Sweaty isn’t

But I can’t sleep if I’m hot

[misty saffron]

hot means sweaty

[analog aspen]

I have fast heart rate

[wheat plume]

not always

[analog aspen]

Depends on moisture

[misty saffron]

very moist

[wheat plume]

id die if I lived in america

[analog aspen]

You?

[wheat plume]

too hot for me

[misty saffron]

yes

[analog aspen]

Depends on the state

[ivory geyser]

What temp is it at your house?

[wheat plume]

inside, idk

[analog aspen]

I live in Colorado it’s freaking snow storming outside rn mate

[wheat plume]

but cold enough I need jacket and socks and shoes

sometimes I wish I had gloves

when I was back here for christmas break, I got a sore throat cause my head wasnt covered at night when sleeping and it was cold af in the house

[ivory geyser]

You either have really shitty body-heating or your family doesnt use a heater...

[wheat plume]

there is no heating, the stove only manages to heat downstairs

so upstairs isnt heated

[ivory geyser]

Wtf lol

[misty saffron]

i wanna pee

[analog aspen]

That’s nutty

[analog aspen]

Go pee

[ivory geyser]

Where do you live, 1800s?...

[wheat plume]

the whole heating system depends on either the stove or the oil tank

[misty saffron]

ok

are you sure

[analog aspen]

Yes I’m sure go now before you pee on the floor

[misty saffron]

ok

[analog aspen]

That’s gonna be hard to explain

[wheat plume]

xd

ye

[analog aspen]

2 more trips like that and we got ourselves sober hollow

[wheat plume]

ooo hek I love this https://youtu.be/1PV0J7RhQJI

[analog aspen]

This is why I don’t think it’s the best to be living in Developed countries

You can’t have nice things

[wheat plume]

wot

[analog aspen]

If you live in Developing country you’ll be getting the latest heater system

[wheat plume]

According to the original definition of "third world", Ireland is a third world country :')

[analog aspen]

[wheat plume]

this house was built one year before I was born :')

its not old

[misty saffron]

fuck it. i’m going home

[wheat plume]

do it

[fickle ore]

oil tank and stove.. is this 1900? 😄

[analog aspen]

I don’t like that term too much partly because it’s outdated

When countries be rising

The 3rd ones

While the 1st ones have crisis

[analog aspen]

It’s younger than my house at least. Considered “new” around here

[wheat plume]

xd

[misty saffron]

i am home

@wheat plume are you proud

[crisp granite]

congrats

[wheat plume]

Yay!!

[crisp granite]

did you crawl out of your buddy's flat?

[misty saffron]

no i told him duck that man i wanna sleep at home and he be quite chil l

[crisp granite]

also, I just had a can of a cider @cursive summit recommended I try

it's pretty good

[misty saffron]

i also know of some quite nice cider they sell here

goes in like soda

[crisp granite]

that's the same with vex's cider

they go in fast and you really can't tell they're alcoholic until it's too late

[pale sigil]

Go to bed

Pleb

[crisp granite]

I woke up 6 hours ago in a puddle of my own puke

party is still going on

[pale sigil]

Silly

[misty saffron]

i am in my bed

[crisp granite]

sweet dreams mudak

[misty saffron]

fuck you too

[crisp granite]

(:

❤️

[wheat plume]

What's that word

[crisp granite]

I think it means asshole

[wheat plume]

Oof

[misty saffron]

pretty much