#🔌│tech | Wooting | Page 945

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:21 AM

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but it was the same price

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including 3 years of warranty

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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i paid 1.9k usd but only a 1060 inside

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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with accidental damage protection

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aka

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free laptop in a few years

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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throw on the external 2080ti and im at 2.9k

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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OMEGALUL

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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nice

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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if I spilt a drink on mine rn I would prob get an area 51m2

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for free

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ah also

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:22 AM

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wuut

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theres a new 51m?

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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the white models start to discolor in the corners dafoe

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ye they made an update to it

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non socketable parts

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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ffs

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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2080ti m

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9900hq or whatever it is called

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and some other changes

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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ah

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nvm

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Pepega

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 AM

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google says 10900k desktop 2080 super not ti

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:24 AM

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yea wrong 2080 update in my head

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also a few extra vents

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on the top

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not like it matters

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oh and an SD card slot

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since they didn't have one before

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for uhhh

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reasons

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:24 AM

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wooow

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thats extremely scuffed

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:25 AM

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dafoe

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wait

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that means

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free update to a 10700k

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aka 8C 16T

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:25 AM

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naisu

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might give you a 2070 super tho lel

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:26 AM

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they offer white again dafoe

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nah

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they are not allowed to downgrade me

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:26 AM

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2070 super is the same speed as the flat 2080

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:26 AM

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ALMOST

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like

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few percent

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:26 AM

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no

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:27 AM

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wait

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KEKW

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they don't offer 10700k and 16gb ram

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so another free upgrade

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OMEGALUL

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:27 AM

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nice

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:27 AM

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16gb is only with the regualar 10700

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:27 AM

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if you are ordering in the us and want a nice clevo locke, get xoticpc

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:27 AM

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MonkaS

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that thing again

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nah next computer will be a desktop 100%

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once I am out of job training

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and make more money

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:28 AM

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yea i upgraded to desktop

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:28 AM

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first new bed, then new monitors, then new computer

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100%

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:28 AM

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bringing my cpu and gpu along for the ride

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:28 AM

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dunno what yet but will prob take until latye last year

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so prob ryzen 6xxx and whatever gpu you can get by then

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:29 AM

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it was like a $300 upgrade to go from laptop to desktop

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lel

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:29 AM

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or my brother updates and I buy his 5950X idk

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I have to wait either way

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:29 AM

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depends how patient you are 😛

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😛

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well no

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microcenter is pretty much constantly out of stock for everything but the most overpriced

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thats not great lel

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:31 AM

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I have to wait cause I need to save money and have more important buys before that either way

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:31 AM

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i dont need an upgrade tbh lel

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:31 AM

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cause honestly nicer bed > slightly faster computer to watch youtube vids with

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:31 AM

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9900k is fast enough

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:31 AM

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quieter would be nice though

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:32 AM

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oh i do

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:32 AM

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yea patience does not solve the problem

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:32 AM

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i work retail

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:32 AM

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prices rise hard

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:32 AM

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everything is screwed

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you gotta have 2 things

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knowledge of when the product releases

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and the ability to wake up at 6am pst when the product releases to order it the minute it launches

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i ordered my gpu online

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oh

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that place

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yikes

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evga ships to hawaii iirc

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i mean

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the gpu is the largest loss to buy scalped

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not the buyers fault

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no?

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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eh

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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not the price

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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it is the manufacturers fault if it is anyones in the first place

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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the quality of the product is what the caveat exemptor applies to

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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if a customer is ready to pay a higher price than it is his decision

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 AM

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all but the 5800x were too cheap

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and as such all but the 5800x got scalped severely immediately

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:37 AM

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price caps to msrp are much more socialist than healthcare you know dafoe

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:37 AM

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also want to take a guess how many combined 3080s and 3090s nvidia has shipped to end users

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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not enough

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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yea definetly not enough

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but guess how many was not enough

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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also you cannot simply blame nvidia

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since they also did not get enough stock of something

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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do you know how many yamato?

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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nope

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:38 AM

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they passed 1m 2 weeks ago

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not including miners (and cards that got kept in the box)

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iirc that also doesnt include people who didnt install geforce experience

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and yea

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nvidia has tooons of the gpus

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and tons of the memory too

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they are just missing minor components

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:40 AM

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they also revived the 2060

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dafoe

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:40 AM

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yup

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:40 AM

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and raised msrp of some other 20xx cards

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:41 AM

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no

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they havent touched msrp

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:41 AM

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ah

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was just partners raising prices

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OMEGALUL

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:42 AM

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yup

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iirc nvidia dropped the price lock because of the tariff exclusion expiring

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and so manufacturers went yeet

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:43 AM

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?

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:43 AM

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old marlin ?

?

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:43 AM

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still confused what locke meant

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ah

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idk

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:43 AM

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wut

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i have no idea what you mean by that

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uuuuuuuuh

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do you have an official source?

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:47 AM

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what

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:47 AM

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my internet is dying too tbh lel

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but i did search alot

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and i have no clue wtf they are talking about, because gpus and motherboards have been fully automateable for the past 10 years
and everyone has had it fully automated for the last 5

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motherboards have been 100% automated since 2011?

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but neat

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asus marketing nonsense

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hm

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well

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maybe 6 years ago not everyone was fully automated

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in 2016 everything was human free up to qc

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and motherboards have been waved for alot longer than that

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good for them

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but msi and gigabyte at least are 100% automated , and while the software has a ways to catch up, at least the high end hardware from msi and gigabyte are more impressive

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:54 AM

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I very much doubt asus isn't

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for the same while

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:54 AM

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ofc

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everyone is automated

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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msi should be the biggest of the three afaik

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as in

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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asus is the biggest

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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biggest quanitity

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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since they provide manufacturing for others

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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msi does as well

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:55 AM

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yea

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msi is pretty large

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 9:56 AM

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gigabyte does not afaik

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and only has a barely existing server segment

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unsure if MSI has one at all though

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 9:57 AM

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gigabyte is pretty sizeable in the server space

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but

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gigabyte motherboard manufacturing was foxxcon iirc

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oh yea

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im ignoring company quality lel

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youd be surprised

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 10:01 AM

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australia has as well

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move to some random asian country

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 AM

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The fuck is this brand

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 AM

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msi?

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 AM

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I meant range oops

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 AM

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gotta come up with new stuff every gen because their old names were too recognizable lel

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Damn I held. Off for to long

astral haven Jan 27, 2021, 11:07 AM

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already sold?

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 11:07 AM

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im amazed you even got a pciture

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that's the top MSI SKU and it was at MSRP lol

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:43 AM

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she is a stiff boi
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full size keyboard but without the padding between the numpad, arrow keys and letters.... wtf

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:45 AM

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It is a perfect keyboard for those that utterly hate themselves.

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:45 AM

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it starts are $69

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:45 AM

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Lana, you should get one! KEKW

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:45 AM

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nice...thats not a bad price but I want padding.... not it all smushed together

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:46 AM

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It is a keychron

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They have all kinds of sizes.

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:46 AM

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I thought keychron were expspensive af

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Seems they arent bad

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wait, they only support mac? their website only shows mac layouts and images

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oh, you can get other keycaps

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:48 AM

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No

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They support Windows AND Mac

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Not sure about Linux, but it prob works too

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Since it also works with Android

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:48 AM

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what is their software like?

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:49 AM

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I have no idea, I dont have one.

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I dont even know if they have any software

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:49 AM

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oo wait, there isnt any

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you use keyboard shortcuts

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 11:50 AM

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I heard people on the Mech Keys say that Keychrons are quite the steal for the price tbh.

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Especially since they come with Gaterons as well

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:50 AM

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They are quite cheap! and without software, thats pretty nice cause most software is crappy

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you can get the keyboards with aluminium frame for an extra $10 🤔 interesting

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they have their own switches..... hmmm

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ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 12:23 PM

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@wheat plume Careful, those are opticals that are compatible only with their keebs - it is exactly like what we have in Wooting

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It is a hotswap in the sense that you can swap their own switches around.

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But that is about it

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Yeh, I figured that so far

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I wish they gave the force needed like Wooting do, like how these ones are 55 or 60 or whatever

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so I know what they are like

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 12:51 PM

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whom'st puts the legend on the side of the keys?!

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halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 12:54 PM

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ppl are who are too cool

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:07 PM

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I wanna get low profile caps...

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they so nice looking

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nuu, the K1 doesnt have adjustable feet
It just lays flat

halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 1:17 PM

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feet are actually bad for the wristposture

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you should always use the keyboard flat

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:18 PM

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i dont like it that way

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its too low then

halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 1:18 PM

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enjoy your wrist problems

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:18 PM

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my wrists dont get sore...

halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 1:18 PM

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yet

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:19 PM

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damn, its so slim!

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halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 1:19 PM

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is that the K1?

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:19 PM

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yep

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ah, ok

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Red is the lightest

halcyon moss Jan 27, 2021, 1:22 PM

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also out of stock

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i was kinda lookig for a low profile keyboard.. was looking at the thinkpad variants...

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Im looking for a suitable keyboard for my friend, rn she has a crappy €12 one for office use

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and she wanna upgrade

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How cheap are gateron swiches?! you can get 12 switches for €4

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 3:23 PM

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OMEGALUL

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They go somewhere from 15-30 cent a piece

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Opticals are even cheaper afaik

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 3:27 PM

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wheat plume damn, its so slim!

I mean, they advertise the Keychron as a "mech keyboard for Mac" - gonna keep it slim and fancy for the Mac users KEKW

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 3:28 PM

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true..... xd

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 3:28 PM

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old marlin They go somewhere from 15-30 cent a piece

O.o I see

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:18 PM

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I got em

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:18 PM

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nice

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:25 PM

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I think they look nice

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:25 PM

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they do

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Lets hope they work too

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lul

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:26 PM

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knowing zalman

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Dont jinx it, brother

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:26 PM

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they got a 50/50 of working or blowing up

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:27 PM

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I just hope they can be connected normally directly to the mb and still be rgb controllable

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They have 2 connectors attached, so im hoping that second cable isnt for a controller

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Oddly specific

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Hmm

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If this is right, these fans need 2 connectors. One for d_led for rgb and one for a system fan

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So iguess the second connector is for a controller

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Which i dont have

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Scheite

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Atleast, i dont think i have...

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Never really checked

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Nope. Dont have one

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I only got 2 d_leds...

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:12 PM

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KEKW

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crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 5:13 PM

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So what's the difference then?

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:13 PM

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100mHz

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Ah cool that's 2 more FPS totally worth

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:13 PM

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sorry

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200

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Even better!

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:14 PM

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well, 200 higher boost 100 lower base KEKWDisco

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and only the i9 gets TVB

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aka 2fps if you don't touch overclocking at all and just put the biggest cooler on it

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 5:17 PM

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14nm now having soo many plusses and running such a high clock they need to lower the amount of cores to lower the heat output

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 5:17 PM

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yikes

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 5:18 PM

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But the game framerates!!!!

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 5:18 PM

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meh

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ryzen is better for that now

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 5:18 PM

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BUT THE GAME FRAMERATES

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 5:18 PM

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intel is trying to lose by less at this point

old marlin Jan 27, 2021, 5:22 PM

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vagrant marsh 14nm now having soo many plusses and running such a high clock they need to lowe...

actually not skylake for once though

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:23 PM

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yes this has other reasons for once

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 5:24 PM

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ashen spindle <:KEKW:640842609920573446>

They've done that before. Remember the 8700K/9700K drama?

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:24 PM

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.. yeah but there wasn't a regression in core counts

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or at least not in the top skus, that was just dumb and they should've named it differently

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Ohh

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I found zeh box

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It has a splitter in it

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misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 5:27 PM

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hand reveal

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 5:27 PM

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ashen spindle .. yeah but there wasn't a regression in core counts

They removed HT. So threads were removed 😄

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:28 PM

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yeas but it was still 6c/12t vs 8c/8t :p

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not going from 10c/20t -> 8c/16t

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 5:30 PM

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You still lost threads 😄

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And people were pretty damn upset at the time.

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WHY DOES THE NEW i7 HAVE FEWER THREADS! INTEL WHAT DO!

ashen spindle Jan 27, 2021, 5:31 PM

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sure, not arguing against that, but here we have the same generation with basically no difference except 100mhz stock settigns difference and probably 100$ pricetag difference

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 5:36 PM

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But the IPC! Quin!

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TEH OPTIMIZASJUNS

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 5:55 PM

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OK

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I got all 3 fans spinning

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However, only 2 seem to have rgb

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Third didnt had a proper led connector, so i used the special gigabyte adapter. Doesnt seem to work properly tho

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Also, 2 of the fans are connected to pump fans. However, thry only run slightly faster. Not much else.

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Wait

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 5:58 PM

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the dust

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holy shit

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 5:58 PM

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My soundcard has an rgb connector

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If that works ...

cursive summit Jan 27, 2021, 6:06 PM

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My case has more dust than that lul

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Construction repairs really fuck your case up

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I cleaned it up but man it's still dirty

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:08 PM

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It didnt work :(

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 6:08 PM

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cursive summit Construction repairs really fuck your case up

good to know

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:08 PM

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The fan does get a signal but doesnt know how to interpret it. It only shows white light

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So yea. 3 fans are running. 2 got light

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Now i need a freaking controller lol

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 6:10 PM

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ew

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use a mouse and keeb like a normal person

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just kidding

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I know you need a different kind of controller

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Yea

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Also, that dust is under the top cover, so i dont clean that like...ever

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Now...

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I have 2 screws left...

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:18 PM

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@crisp granite stop being a lil bitch about his room

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You have it out for him lol

crisp granite Jan 27, 2021, 6:20 PM

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pale sigil <@449275309909344266> stop being a lil bitch about his room

I'm one of those people who keeps a fairly tight ship, so yeah, shitloads of dust does bother me

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I'll shut up about it

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I'll post my trashheap to balance it out. 🤣

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:21 PM

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XD

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 6:26 PM

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I run my office in cycles. I do a complete cleanup. Trashbags, vacuuming and cleaning tables (I even clean out PC dust filters) and then it kind of builds up over time till I repeat the cycle.

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I have plenty of dishes and garbage 😄

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:31 PM

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hmm

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i hear the fans tho

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i think its the fans connected to the pump that im hearing

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think im gonna run those 2 on silent mode

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see if that amkes a difference

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Did you try swapping the RGB back and forth between the fans?

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If all of them work on the same header, then you can just buy a splitter cable.

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If one of them doesn't look right with the same header, you may have accidentally blown up some LEDs.

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:38 PM

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I hope not 🥲

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But if a splitter is enough

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God damn

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Lol

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The rail they are attached to is vibrating

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If i put weight on it it stops the buzzing sound

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 6:41 PM

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They don't have a ton of fan frame. You can try putting in a bit of foam on the rail where it connects to stuff.

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Or a bit of foam between the top cover and the rail, so the top cover pushes it down

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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About to sell my IPad

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bought for 230 new

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sold for 170 second hand

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not bad

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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sadge

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this is $20 well spent

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going back to ultralight mice feels so.. weird

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:50 PM

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@misty pier new profile pic an oc or?

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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just one i grabbed off pixiv

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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ah, well its cute.

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:52 PM

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pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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What gpu is that

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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i think they look nice, the fans

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3080 aorus master

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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oh right ye

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the screen one

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 6:53 PM

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yea

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alright

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im gonna push the clock to 1.40v 4.7ghz again 😛 the previous setting that overheated it

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idle temp is under 50, so thats already an improvement

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after 1 run, only 80 degrees

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even improved my score a bit lol

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alright. time for the real torture test. aida64

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Flushed_Cheems

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these pads are cool

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 7:08 PM

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can ice s-3?

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I have no idea

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 7:08 PM

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duh

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oh man

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those fans at full force. i can feel the draft

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but, its not instantly overheating, so the fans do help with the airflow. its at 85 degrees now

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And...windows crashed...

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Weird. Maybe bios isnt more stable than previous one

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Well, it completed a cinebench cycle so its stable enough for me

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lol

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atleast i know it aint a temp problem no more

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would be shit if i have to run it at a higher voltage because the bios is a little bit unstable

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 7:27 PM

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my native countrymen made it 😤

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 7:31 PM

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i hate paypal tax

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misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 7:31 PM

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i never got taxed over PP

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 7:32 PM

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they sent it over buying a product

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😦

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better than selling on ebay

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oh boy

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ebay is savage with fees

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 7:36 PM

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seems pretty stable, no?

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Im not sure

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Didnt read it

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but atleast the fan vibration wasnt audible above the sound of battlefield chaos 😛

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 8:34 PM

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and accepted another offer for hte graphics card. only 460, but seems more legit than those wanted to buy it for 500

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Anyone wanna buy a razer huntsman elite brand new never oppened for £160 UK ISO?

ivory geyser Jan 27, 2021, 9:28 PM

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No

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Lol just ordered a RX 6800

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i'm super excited for that beast

misty pier Jan 27, 2021, 9:47 PM

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no

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 9:58 PM

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KaOS is using strange wallpaper...

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oohhh

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Very....

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Latest version of youtube music from vanced isn't letting me sign on

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pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:23 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l6ekdz/gme_yolo_update_jan_27_2021_guess_i_need_102/

r/wallstreetbets - GME YOLO update — Jan 27 2021 ------------------...

0 votes and 7,432 comments so far on Reddit

fickle ore Jan 27, 2021, 10:23 PM

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can we not on every damn discord channel

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 10:23 PM

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STONKS

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:24 PM

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oh right, the old gpu cooler i had

cursive summit Jan 27, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Fam if I got 50 million like that

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I'd buy myself a private jet lul

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:24 PM

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📎 IMG_20210127_232352.jpg

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📎 IMG_20210127_232359.jpg

cursive summit Jan 27, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Why tf is everything you own dusty

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:25 PM

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i own this thing for....

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almost 10 years now

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ofcourse its dusty. it was sitting on top of my closet

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:28 PM

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hey gang what GPU's do you have / thinking of upgrading too?

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I just bought a 6800 😄

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and I just blew my wad

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:29 PM

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Been on the waiting list for a 3080 since September. Given up on it. I'll try and grab the 3080TI whenever that appears if at all.

Or I'll just skip this generation altogether.

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:29 PM

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you just bought a 6800

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did you already got it delivered, or just on hte waiting list?

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:30 PM

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@vagrant marsh just blew my wad after getting the shipped notification... arriving tomorrow!!!

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:30 PM

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what is a wad? not known with that one

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:30 PM

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load

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 10:30 PM

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N U T

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:31 PM

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aha...

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:31 PM

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@reef patrol @reef patrol where are you based? I can point you in the direction of a 6900 XT

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I know somewhere that has 3070's 6800's and 6900 XT's in stock

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:32 PM

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No interest in AMD until they get decent DLSS 🙂

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But thanks for the offer.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Fair enough... personally RT is not a deal breaker to me as it's still in it's infancy

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Tell me more about cards in stock and what kind of price are they..

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:33 PM

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UK retailer and above MSRP

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but less than ebay

crimson wigeon Jan 27, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Oh not interested then cuz brexit

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:34 PM

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YeaH retailers now even going as far as putting stock up on unrelated webpages to trick the bots and give normal people a chance to buy one

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so these cards aren't showing up on stock informer discords

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I orignally bought a 3080 from ebay and was scammed £1000 from the scalper seller

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still in the process of trying to get that back

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but as I can't really afford a new HDMI 2.1 4K TV i don't really NEED a 3080

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6800 should be perfect for 1440p gaming

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@prisma crag well i do already own a OLED TV but it's an older generation

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I think too many people are wanting to buy GPU's they don't really need for example a 3080 would not realize it's full potential unless gaming at 4K

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but you need HDMI 2.1 for 4k 120hz

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I will probably buy a new ultrawide gaming monitor

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1440p is the sweet spot i think right now

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:40 PM

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1440p is great, as for hdmi 2.1 for normal computer monitors newer display port standards are more common.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:40 PM

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by the time next generation of cards come out hdmi 2.1 monitors will be a thing and the prices of hdmi 2.1 OLED's will have gone down

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:40 PM

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And then there is the matter of future proofing / harder to run games so 1440p makes sense.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:41 PM

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@prisma crag thats what i wanted but you need atleast a 3080 for it

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and 3080's are very hard to come by right now

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even 6800 XT's are sold out

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:41 PM

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For monitors I stick to 3x 1440p 27 inch and 1x 1080p for a while.
GPU upgrade I wait for the things to be in stock regularly.

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my gtx1080 can last me a while longer tbh

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:42 PM

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Anyhow if their are any UK people here needing a GPU i can point you in the right direction

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:42 PM

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im willing to sell you peeps my 3080. for 1500 euro

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:43 PM

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put into perspective i payed £740 for my 6800

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the XT would of been nice but sold out :Z

vagrant marsh Jan 27, 2021, 10:44 PM

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ugh, dollar. american rubbles not worth a damn

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:44 PM

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sometimes compromises have to be made if you want the latest tech

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@pale sigil need a GPU mate?

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Yesnt

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:47 PM

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OCUK have a limited amount in stock right now m8

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:47 PM

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of what

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and ye they are scalpers

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:47 PM

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3070's 6800's 6900 Xt's

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scalpers yes but atleast they wont scam you like ebay scalpers

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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all 3070s went

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i have a 3080

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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they added 3070's Suprims

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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aPES_LulLaugh

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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masters sold out last night

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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£719.99

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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for the pulse

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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OMEGALUL

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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It's also not that they are scalpers themselves per-se, the price hike can also come down from higher up the supply chain.

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Curry's had them for 550 quid

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@thick elk they confirmed they are scalping on the forums

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aPES_LulLaugh

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:49 PM

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you are lucky to own a 3080 I payed £738.89 for a 6800 (NON-XT) Saphire Nitro last night

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Fair enough.

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:49 PM

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i mean

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:49 PM

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price went up £20 since then

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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i paid 940 euro for my gpu

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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They are free to sell at whatever price they want.
Not really scalping per se.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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OCUK hiked prices still cheaper than ebay

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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The opposite can also happen, new cards comes out they have to dump the stock at a loss.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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and u get a warranty lol

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Seeling stuff that is rare

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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last cave Fair enough... personally RT is not a deal breaker to me as it's still in it's i...

I said DLSS, not Raytracing 😄

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Choosing to be higher than anyone else on the market

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

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AMd will have both...but they're going to be behind for a while.

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

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not scalping

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

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@reef patrol I know what you said but DLSS main advantage is for when you enable Raytracing 😛

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Yes and no. I need DLSS to make Cyberpunk playable at 1440 😄

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Without RT.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

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lol no

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Lol ye

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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last cave lol no

I genuinely do.

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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For me I know Nvidia has AMD beat in features right now, just from a linux user perspective I have had too many annoyances with the way the closed source drivers work.
Problems I have not had with either Intel IGP's or AMD in the past.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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nope

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Yup

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I do too... literally

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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I'll load up OBS and Afterburner for you right now 😛

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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ultra 60fps no rt

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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60fps achievable with 6800 at ultra settings at 1440p in cyberpunk

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:52 PM

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with dlss on

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sooooooo

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

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A 6800 is stronger than my 2080 😄

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

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if my 3080 cant do shit with it

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Mansens 2080 cant

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DLSS does save your ass

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

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@reef patrol u said u need a 3080 and dlss for 60fps 1440p in cyberpunk XD

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

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I never said that 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

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maybe at 4k u do

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https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/sapphire_radeon_rx_6800_nitro_review,13.html

Guru3D.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 NITRO+ review

It is time for the first customized Radeon 6800 review, no not the XT. In this review, we test the Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 NITRO+ based on a custom PCB, custom cooler, and increased clock frequencies.... DX12: Cyberpunk 2077

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:54 PM

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You said the main reason for DLSS was Raytracing - I countered with "It isn't - I need DLSS just to play Cyberpunk (with my current setup)"

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:54 PM

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on ultra

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you kinda do

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aPES_LulLaugh

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:54 PM

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And that trend will likely continue for a generation or two to play the latest games without upgrading every time.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:54 PM

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@pale sigil look at the link

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:54 PM

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piece of shit game

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:55 PM

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6800 gets 60fps without any dlss turned on at 1440p ultra settings

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:55 PM

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im telling you now

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those benchmarks are the beggining of the game

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 10:55 PM

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As for Cyberpunk it works well on linux, but not when using nvidia.
not that I am in any hurry to play the game.

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Meanwhile my 2080 in RDR2 for comparison 😄

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last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Good to see considering im coming from a 2080

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Anyhow - TLDR; Until AMD has DLSS and RT that can kind of match nVidia, I'll stick with team green. I do have a 5600X though 😄

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:56 PM

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https://mrpl.me/Pc3380b_rf29.jpg

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Ah, sweet 70+ fps

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my ass

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😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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@reef patrol what im saying is unless you plan to enable raytracing you dont NEED to stick to team green for this generation

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Only the intro the game runs really damn good

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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last cave <@!158168189300244480> what im saying is unless you plan to enable raytracing yo...

For now*

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Cyberpunk also has FidelityFX options for 6000 cards

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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https://mrpl.me/X43385b_rfv7.jpg

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:57 PM

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DLSS is too powerful to be ignored imo.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:58 PM

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in the few amount of games that has it

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Sure - But that number is increasing by the day.

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And it's usually the AAA games that get it...the ones that need more power to run 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:59 PM

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going forward DXR will be the standard not DLSS

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the new consoles use DXR

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Two different techs.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 10:59 PM

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DLSS is Nvidia's proprietary software

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yeah im confusing it with RTX

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:00 PM

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No no no... DXR will compete with RTX.

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Not DLSS 😄

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AMD's coming with their own DLSS this gen...but they're going to be about two years behind on optimizing. So unless they throw a ton of money and time at cloud engines, it's going to take some time to catch up 🙂

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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still though DLSS you only need it when u turn on raytracing because then fps tanks

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Again - If my 2080 needs it NOW, the 3080(TI) will need it at some point 😄

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Time will tell of DLSS remains the standard for upscaling. I really hope a common standard will become the norm and I expect it as well. At the very least the microsoft and sony will heavily push for it.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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AMD is the rasterization performance king

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:01 PM

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I dont really care

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tbh

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i just got whatever i could get first

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😄

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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thick elk Time will tell of DLSS remains the standard for upscaling. I really hope a commo...

Microsoft would be the ones to have to intervene for sure. Only third party in this mix with DX.

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I mean... same Callum. But that was when stuff was MSRP.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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upscaling isn't a priority feature for me because im not that fussed about raytracing right now hence why i was happy to take a 6800 instead of waiting for a 3080...

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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CBA to pay for what a 6000 series cost now, let alone 3080 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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3070 did not seem worth it only having 8GB VRAM

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considering 3070ti will no doubt be released sometime in the near future

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:03 PM

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The 3080TI doubles up on VRAM. The VRAM race is on and it's insane.

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It's like when AMD tried to do this with their super special VRAM that flopped fairly hard 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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3080TI will be sweet but i can't wait another 5 months for a GPU 😛

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I don't know if they will double vram at the higher end much. GDDR6X is and probably remains expensive.
Similar though different problem from what AMD was having when they were forced on HBM2

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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last cave 3080TI will be sweet but i can't wait another 5 months for a GPU 😛

Looks like I'll have to whether I want to or not 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I did the dumb thing of selling my 2080 in September 2020 thinking i'd be able to pre-order a 3080 like last gen

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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The scalping is insane.

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And many retailers prescalp like mad.

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Supply and demand, I don't blame them as long as they honour standing orders.

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Standing orders are hard to do much with if you have a cheap, unpopular SKU like the TUF 😄

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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@reef patrol or u could buy a 6900 XT right now for £1200 and get slightly better rasterization performance than a 3080 and then sell your 2080 on ebay

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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The 3080 TUF was 740€ near release. If I put in an order at the same shop now I'd be paying 1000.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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take a step of faith with AMD 😄

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Naw.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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and also benefit from the SAM when combined with an AMD CPU

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:07 PM

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SAM isn't AMD specific anymore. Or particularly pwerful 😄

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Speaking of the TUF. At the same retailer people still have about 400 cards in backorder from standing PRE-orders before release. That's how bad it is.

And meanwhile manufacturers keep spitting out new SKUs by the bucketload 😄

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Still it's nice of them to put it on the map either way.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:07 PM

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@reef patrol are you British?

thick elk Jan 27, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Anyway I really should go to bed, good night everyone.

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:08 PM

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@reef patrol check DM

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:08 PM

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I am not. 😄

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So... not very useful due to customs fees. 😦

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Hahaha

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@pale sigil is in the know of the link I sent you 😉

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it's a secret link only very few people on the internet know about right now

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but it's a one way for UK gamers to actually buy a GPU

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OCUK have saved us...

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Hehe

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:10 PM

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3d Printer 😄

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bots go brrrrr

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https://youtu.be/FVQvH4qc5cg

YouTube

Shared Flying

A-10 Warthog Brrrt

▶ Play video

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@reef patrol btw i got scammed of a 3080 TUF

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never trust ebay scalpers

reef patrol Jan 27, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Never. I always buy in person when it comes to something this expensive. Or something I know 😄

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(Or retail of course)

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:18 PM

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yes i don't mind being scalped from a retailer because at-least i know i wont be scammed

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@pale sigil btw 😛

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wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:38 PM

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This madlad has an iphone in their case

📎 Img_2021_01_27_23_38_31.jpeg

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:39 PM

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wot

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is this a joke im missing

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Also my cooler ❤️

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Oh shit

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i see now

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lmao

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I should do that aPES_LulLaugh

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:46 PM

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:')

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My computer is boring looking compared to this

pale sigil Jan 27, 2021, 11:56 PM

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😦

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I hate that my mum and sister are using my plex account

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:57 PM

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@wheat plume roughly how much is your PC worth?

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:57 PM

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€880

last cave Jan 27, 2021, 11:57 PM

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mine is going to be around £2500 when im done

wheat plume Jan 27, 2021, 11:58 PM

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O o

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Dang

hard thicket Jan 28, 2021, 12:16 AM

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that's approx my case and custom loop lmao

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properly planning would've avoided that

misty pier Jan 28, 2021, 12:18 AM

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yoooo this mouse looks so nice at night

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im not getting blinded by it

hard thicket Jan 28, 2021, 12:23 AM

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as if you keep it enabled

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i mean you don't see it most of the time while using lol

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can't warp my head around RGB mice

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or rgb headsets...

misty pier Jan 28, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ye, it's kind of cool though

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sometimes the most useless things look nice lmao

broken pollen Jan 28, 2021, 1:16 AM

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I put my mouse run on the dimmest setting

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Rgb

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Can barely see it

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Damn

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Used Radeon VIIs sell for more than I paid for mine new

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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they rare

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:11 AM

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And apparently better at mining certain coins than even a 3080

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:14 AM

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yup

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its alot less profitable tho

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Best thing is, one of them is probably a golden sample

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Time Spy stable at 1800Mhz core, 1200 mem, 930mV core

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:16 AM

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3dmark can run while extremely unstable

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Getting the same score as on stock voltage?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:17 AM

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yup

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Well, I've had it in 24/7 use at 936mV, it's been good

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:18 AM

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you can be 500mhz out of stability on the memory and have it run time spy lel

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:18 AM

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There was a game that didn't like 930mV, iirc

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:18 AM

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on core you can only be 100mhz-200 out

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but test with occt

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to test properly start with extremely low usage limit

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then increase till you hit power limit

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:32 AM

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Funny thing about power draw

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At my settings, the card draws 220-240W in Witcher 3
Which is among the highest of all games I've tried

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But in Cyberpunk, it does with a measly 140W at the same settings

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:36 AM

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cpu bottleneck probably

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:36 AM

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Nope

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:36 AM

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99% gpu usage?

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM

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55-65FPS on a med/high mix depending on scene
CPU bottleneck is at around 100 FPS
Yes, 99% usage

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM

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thats very odd

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could be down to the whole amd dropping support dealio

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM

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FPS are what you'd expect from the card, nothing out of the ordinary

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:38 AM

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i mean

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4k?

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:38 AM

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WQHD

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:39 AM

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1440x3840?

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:39 AM

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2560x1440

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:39 AM

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thats 1440p

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qhd is 1440p

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:39 AM

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Well, 1440p isn't really a standard

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:40 AM

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it is

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1440 progressive

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shortened to 1440p

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nyways

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thats not amazing

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:40 AM

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Well, either way, it's a video format, not a display format :p

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:40 AM

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thats not how that works

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:41 AM

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1080p is a video format, FHD is the corresponding display format

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4k is the video format, UHD the display format

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:41 AM

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thats not entirely correct

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that was true back in the crt era

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but now in the lcd era it is not

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because displays are digital now

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nyways

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you should be getting around 60 fps at 4k ultra

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oh wait no 1440p ultra

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at lowered settings you should be getting higher fps

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:45 AM

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Well, anyway, I'm no saying that the framerates are out of the ordinary. They are, in fact ordinary. Power draw is just really, really low.

Show me that benchmark, please. Because according to launch benchmarks, I shouldn't be anywhere near 60 FPS at Ultra

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:45 AM

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im just looking at 2080 benchmarks

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should be the same

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:45 AM

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No

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Nvidia enjoys like a 15% advantage in Cyberpunk compared to the mean

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM

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~~the vii is supposed to be faster than the 2080~~

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM

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Maybe 20% even

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM

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thats not true at all

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM

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📎 performance-2560-1440.png

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM

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https://tpucdn.com/review/cyberpunk-2077-benchmark-test-performance/images/fps-differences.png

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vs the average only the 5500xt is disproportionally disadvantaged

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thanks to x8 +4gb most likely

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Well, either way, 60 FPS is a long way off 😄
Even the 2080 only gets 47 at QHD Ultra

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The VII is more in line with the 5700 XT at 36 FPS

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:50 AM

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yikes

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~~shows why amd abandoned it~~

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:50 AM

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They didn't, really
They just stopped making them
But Vega is still widely used and supported

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:51 AM

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nope they dropped support for vega

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started removing features already

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pro drivers no longer are able to be installed without registry editing

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the extra features like hbcc are apparently getting glitchier

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gcn in general is getting more and more painful to use as navi starts to get useable

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:55 AM

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You seem to be wrong there
Pro drivers are listed on the AMD support website and can be installed without any editing

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astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:55 AM

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yea ofc you can install the old drivers that still have it work lel

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:55 AM

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That's the lastest driver

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20.Q4, released November

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:56 AM

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released 10/27/2020

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Says 2020-11-10 for the VII

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:57 AM

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the most up to date drivers were released last thursday

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:57 AM

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For which SKUs?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:57 AM

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gcn and later lel

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amd has monolithic drivers

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but the example i searched for was vega64 since the complaints i received about the pro drivers being dropped was from (friends with) them

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Well, there seems to be no later Pro driver listed on the AMD website I can find

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 6:58 AM

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thats the thing tho

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the older drivers you didnt even need to specifically install a separate pro version to receive the benefits

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in the software you could just toggle over to pro mode, restart the driver and it would start working

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thats gone now

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Not even their Pro GPUs like the FirePros get a newer driver, it's all the same

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20.Q4 is the lastest and up to date release

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And it works with my card just fine

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I can't see them dropping any support

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

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its just like nvidia dropping 10 series support

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sure the drivers will still "exist"

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but theres no benefit to using them, and sometimes even penalties

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only benefits can come with compatibility fixes with newer processors and the like

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:03 AM

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AMD is still making and selling Vega graphics

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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not any that use the vega architecture

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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It's not gonna be dropped any time soon

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:05 AM

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only gpu using the actual vega architecture that is still around is the pro vii
and that one hasnt gotten any new drivers since september

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apus are all polaris

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:06 AM

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APUs are Vega
Upcoming Lucienne and Cezanne will also use Vega

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:06 AM

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no

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vega name not vega architecture

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no hbcc and no special fancy primitive shader stuff

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:09 AM

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So, Vega is not supposed to have HBCC?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:09 AM

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vega is supposed to have hbcc

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Well, it would make no sense to have that on an APU

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:10 AM

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correct

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but they also dropped the special vega primitive shader hardware

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now to be entirely fair it never worked on even architecturally vega products

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but its still not vega

reef tundra Jan 28, 2021, 7:11 AM

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vega(s)

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Well, so far, we can conclude:
I'm getting the FPS I'm supposed to get in Cyberpunk, when compared with benchmarks and other cards like the 5700 XT
It's still drawing only 140W and it's a mystery why

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But I'm still not sure what actually bottlenecks Cyberpunk to begin with

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I still assume I'm hitting a memory bandwidth/latency bottleneck even at 3800 C16

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:16 AM

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memory bottleneck should be visually indistinguishable from cpu bottleneck (aka under full gpu usage)

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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I'm seeing 99% GPU usage at 1800 Mhz, but way below expected power draw
No CPU thread ever hitting 100%

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:18 AM

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oh wait

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you are using gpu readings for power draw

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what app are you using

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:18 AM

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HWInfo/HWMonitor/Afterburner

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:19 AM

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first of all 1 at a time otherwise things break

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so get rid of hwmonitor

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afterburner and hwinfo shouldnt be reading the same sensors

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Of course I don't run everything at the same time

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:19 AM

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and take a screenshot of the vii section of hwinfo

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no i mean in sensors

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:21 AM

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📎 unknown.png

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:22 AM

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i meant after running 2077 for a bit

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Whatcha gonna do with that? Burn my house?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:22 AM

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idk i cant imagine that someone having your serial number is a good thing

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:23 AM

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There's little they could potentially do with that, other then file for RMA, but not actually deliver the hardware

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:23 AM

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it would allow them to rma a fake or previously rmad gpu

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also you have alot more info available than i remember seeing on my friend's v64

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:26 AM

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This is standing in one of the heaviest intersections of the game

📎 unknown.png

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:26 AM

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wow

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Wait, lemme clear averages

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:27 AM

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meh

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average is only useful for fps

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when max is that low, something is suspicious

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yea my friend with the vii yeeted it for a 2080 a few weeks before 2077 launched so i cant ask them to check

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and it works ~~properly~~ as expected on the 5700xt and v64

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:31 AM

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Witcher 3 in Toussaint

📎 unknown.png

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But something's borked
This is a horrible, stuttery mess even with 110 FPS

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:32 AM

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more reasonable to be such a low power consumption tho

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:33 AM

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Building shaders stutter maybe?

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Stutter is getting less, FPS going up

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:33 AM

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yea idk grab a glass of water and come back and see if it is any better

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wut

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judging things from scalped prices is ❌

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odd

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Fuck that, ima use Eco to hammer my GPU

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Those are not MSRPs for the 6800

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:37 AM

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sapphire has fancy models
you are probably better comparing to the evga ftw3 models

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(for the high end)

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 7:38 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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From AMD.com

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 7:38 AM

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the ftw3 3080 is 850-880

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msrp

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📎 unknown.png

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the 6800 and 6800xt were both supposed to be cheaper than the 3080

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3090 from evga is over 2

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🤷‍♂️

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you want the chips you gotta fork the dough

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wut

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yes thats how technology works

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it gets faster

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🤷‍♂️ lovelace is turing tier improvements

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hopper is pog tho

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sadly delayed

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wut

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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pogchamp
pog as in pogchamp

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thats not an adjective tho

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no as in its gonna be another solid hit

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might be poorly priced

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but in terms of performance and cost per chip its gonna be very very good

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hopper is absolutely an experimental arch tho

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i mean

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current flagship gaming gpus are 700 msrp

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midrange is 400

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low end is 200

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i wanna see better low end

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wut

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how would amd comitting sudoku help

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so you are saying they need to be in a leading position then release another gpu to keep their leading position?

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thats gonna take a few releases at least

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https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-walking-whistle-strut-walk-gif-4819846

Tenor

walking

▶ Play video

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📎 unknown.png

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wut

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again wut

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:00 AM

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i think carmonben wants a source

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:00 AM

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what do you even mean by the "ui milestone update"

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all i can find is some concept art by one(1) of the microsoft designers

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:04 AM

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astral haven all i can find is some concept art by one(1) of the microsoft designers

wow its almost as if its

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:05 AM

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i dont really see much changes

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thats a change sentiment about something you want to discuss, not giving context

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step 1: say something controversial
step 2: expect others to act
step 3: be lazy by not giving context
step 4: call other ppl lazy

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feedly

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Feedly 12 pro max plus

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:18 AM

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@astral haven
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadeonVII/comments/kb91xv/cyberpunk_2077_radeon_vii_1440p_performance_oc/

r/RadeonVII - Cyberpunk 2077 Radeon VII 1440p Performance. OC 2075m...

12 votes and 20 comments so far on Reddit

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Found this post of someone showing an overclocked VII

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:20 AM

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wow

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thats pretty bad

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Wattage reading is extremely jumpy, but it averages at about 220W, I guess?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:20 AM

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yup

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Makes no sense to jump between 140W and 290W all the time

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:21 AM

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wattage readings after the vrm like amd does are very inconsistent

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Mine are always very consistent

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And I've cross checked them, and they're fairly accurate

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 8:24 AM

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I thought we already had 20H1?

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Oh
21H1

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:25 AM

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you are confusing a pile of things locke

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 8:25 AM

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That's too many links

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:25 AM

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windows 10 x is not a windows 10 update

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 8:25 AM

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^^^

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:25 AM

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its an entirely separate branch

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:26 AM

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uh i dont know, bought a life time sub when google reader was canned.

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:27 AM

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if you load it with 1 constant set load it will be accurate eventually @zenith sonnet

solar hinge Jan 28, 2021, 8:27 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/sub-nap-time-sleeper-hold-head-lock-gif-17758876

Tenor

misty saffron Jan 28, 2021, 8:27 AM

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does anyone understand shit in film photography here

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:27 AM

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is that you Quinn?

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Windows 10X, for single screen devices?
Is that like, tablet windows or what?

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Yee

solar hinge Jan 28, 2021, 8:28 AM

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zenith sonnet Windows 10X, for single screen devices? Is that like, tablet windows or what?

that or poor people

zenith sonnet Jan 28, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Into the trash it goes

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:29 AM

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but the actual power usage of a gpu looks like https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/BtzQYGfnxrtXG9uCtKnWgJ.png

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:31 AM

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a "3d" graph? in 2021? O_O

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:31 AM

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not 2021

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its a 1080 review graph

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but new gpus have alot better power filtering in the vrm

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i said new gpus

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 8:54 AM

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I'm still confused how "fresh look" is a good thing

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This somehow implies I would change OS like my shoes

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:55 AM

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look at ios

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or android

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or windows in the past

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or macos

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yea

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 8:57 AM

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In my experience stuff with a "fresh look" in Windows typically is lackluster

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:57 AM

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i appreciated dark mode windows explorer alot

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Well... okay, but that's not like this is now the standard and you have to use it

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:58 AM

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did you notice the start menu change?

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Classic Shell 😄

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Which change? ^^

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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ah so you are one of those people

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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do ppl actualyl use the startmenu?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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its amazingly useful

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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i mash the win key and type the name of the program

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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yea me too

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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On the desktop primarily the search function, but that was in there a long time ago

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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mash enter

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done

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 8:59 AM

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but there are a bunch of programs i have that have super odd names

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 9:00 AM

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On my Tablet I use the Windows Start menu (w.o. classic shell)

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:00 AM

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like this is so nice for me

📎 unknown.png

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 9:01 AM

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What the heck is this?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:01 AM

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its smol icons

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 9:01 AM

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At least make it symmetric O.o

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:01 AM

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no?

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the point of origin in the left side

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it goes from left to right

slender rain Jan 28, 2021, 9:02 AM

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You use it with your thumb?

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:03 AM

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no?

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yea thats for less used or properly named apps

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yea i have a calculator button on my keyboard lel

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well technically my secondary keyboard

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ye

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and its good

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but i have to get used to it

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im not used to alt space

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 9:06 AM

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I'm used to alt space because of krunner

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:07 AM

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im used to hitting windows and typing

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and if it doesnt work i hit escape and scroll to find it

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 9:15 AM

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You dang kids! We didn't have a working search function till XP.

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Start menu was lyfe!

halcyon moss Jan 28, 2021, 9:18 AM

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search was working in XP?

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i dont remember that

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 9:19 AM

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It wasn't amazing. But it did work. monkaHmm

sudden glacier Jan 28, 2021, 9:56 AM

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astral haven like this is so nice for me

i use fullscreen menu

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basically replacing me putting icons on desktop

astral haven Jan 28, 2021, 9:57 AM

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My screen too big

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And on my tablet i want to be able to reach it without moving my hand

sudden glacier Jan 28, 2021, 9:58 AM

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o ye that makes sense

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i use mouse

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 10:05 AM

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can you test this redesign in the Insider build?

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 10:29 AM

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$2500 phone that acts as a viewfinder for a camera

📎 unknown.png

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https://youtu.be/vLm68qbNjkU

YouTube

Marques Brownlee

The Only REAL "Pro" Smartphone?!

Sony Xperia Pro is the only phone that truly deserves the "Pro" name... which is why you don't need it.

Why Don't People Buy Sony Smartphones? https://youtu.be/j7QwJ-M_GAI

MKBHD Merch: http://shop.MKBHD.com

Tech I'm using right now: https://www.amazon.com/shop/MKBHD

Intro Track: Rough by Jordyn Edmonds
Playlist of MKBHD Intro music: https://...

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pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techradar.com/amp/news/you-can-now-stream-super-nintendo-and-playstation-roms-on-plex

TechRadar

You can now stream Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis ROMs on Plex

Throw ROMs on your Plex server and stream them with Plex Arcade

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@reef patrol

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

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👀

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:09 AM

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@neat oriole its a crime that apple devices have amazing amps etc built in

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 11:14 AM

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And then uses crappy branded audio hardware to play it on.

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pepeLaugh

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:14 AM

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Hmm?

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 11:14 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/beats-head-set-audio-dr-dre-gif-7547729

Tenor

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insert image of other Apple branded speakerware

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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I mean

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Oh lol

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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airpods pro and max are not terrible

#

ig

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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bcaCoy2

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Not what I was on about though

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Oh right

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Yes

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Iphones don't have porta now

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Haha

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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I know - Just felt funny to comment on that ... lack of balance 😄

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Only ipads

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Well I retract my statement

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Used to or ipads do

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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the fucking USELESS CASE on the Airpod Pros.....

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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aPES_LulLaugh

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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@wheat plume max

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not pro

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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ffs

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Like listening to music via my headphones on my ipad

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Pepega naming scheme

pale sigil Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Is just a wonderful experience

ivory geyser Jan 28, 2021, 11:16 AM

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reef patrol https://tenor.com/view/beats-head-set-audio-dr-dre-gif-7547729

But it Apple, it gotta be good, RIGHT? eyesHorse

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And totally worth the price KEKW

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:17 AM

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$1000 bent metal stand

ivory geyser Jan 28, 2021, 11:18 AM

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wheat plume $1000 bent metal stand

PREMIUM metal stand, thankyouverymuch.

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:18 AM

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:')

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:19 AM

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@wheat plume not bent metal but ok

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the bigger problem was not includign a vesa mount with the monitor

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:19 AM

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its metal and bent into the shape of th e stand

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:19 AM

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?

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📎 MWUG2_AV1.png

reef patrol Jan 28, 2021, 11:20 AM

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bcaHappy4Giddy

wheat plume Jan 28, 2021, 11:20 AM

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ok, not the arm

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thats another piece

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:20 AM

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the foot is not bent

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prob extruded

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and then machined + sand blasted

reef tundra Jan 28, 2021, 11:20 AM

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Metal is not always hard. Steel is

old marlin Jan 28, 2021, 11:20 AM

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is prob alu?

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doesn't really matter

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it is for a display targeted at professionals

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not consumers

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prices for professional products are usually unreasonable