🔌│tech

[reef patrol]

What the actual eff. 😆

[old marlin]

[cursive summit]

Wtf is this

[old marlin]

That is not phono

Just cinch

But for video

Phono is ALWAYS vinyl related

And you sent in 6.3mm jacks

[reef patrol]

Phono is... Just for speakers and hifi in general

[old marlin]

No

[reef patrol]

Vinyl just happens to be part of that spectrum

[old marlin]

Phono is specifically a preamp system needed for vinyl

[reef patrol]

...

[old marlin]

Otherwise it just is regular cinch

Sometimes also called RCA

Because they introduced it afaik

[reef patrol]

Phono is a commonly used name.

Have been since the 90s

😆

[old marlin]

Well used wrong then

[reef patrol]

Blame the entire world then.

It's like complaining that 4K isn't 4K.

[old marlin]

Haven't heard it being used wrong before

As in phono

[reef patrol]

If you ask most Europeans what the red and white cables going out of something like a playstation are called, they'll respond phono.

[old marlin]

I am euorpean

Most common answer would be cinch

[reef patrol]

[misty saffron]

speaking of 4k

[reef patrol]

If you say that round here people will ask if you're into some fifty shades stuff.

[misty saffron]

is getting a big main 4k monitor worth it nowadays

[reef patrol]

Do you have a 3080?

Otherwise it's going to struggle.

[misty saffron]

was planning on getting a 6900xt

i do a lot of productivity shit anyways

[ashen spindle]

Get a 6800xt not a 900, not worth it

[misty saffron]

tbf the price doesn't matter all that much to me

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but it’s like actually not worth it, unless it were like 100$ above the 6800xt

[misty saffron]

talking completely stupid kind of not worth it?

[cursive summit]

Just wait for February and get the 3080Ti?

[ashen spindle]

It’s almost like the same card with slightly better binning

[misty saffron]

ah

[misty saffron]

wanna give amd a shot after they made it seem like better value

[cursive summit]

Until AMD's DLSS thing is not showcased I am not buying a single new card

[ashen spindle]

Get a nitro+ if you want to stay on air for the best AiB model, really good cooler on that model

[cursive summit]

So, Sapphire the best, as has always been?

[reef patrol]

Expect them to be two years behind nVidia just like with RT.

They'll be playing catch up for a gen or two

[misty saffron]

2 dp ports

[edgy hull]

Dont see AMD winning the catch up game unless Nvidia screws up again. Usually see 50% raw perf increase at same-ish power consumption per generation. This time it was like 15%. AMD is pretty lucky with that happening

[ashen spindle]

wouldn't call it lucky, comes from AMD seperating rdna/cdna while nvidia just steers more towards datacenter and only doing minor adjustments for the gaming cards

also based on timelines we should expect the next amd cards before the next nvidia cards

(not counting a super-refresh thing as new cards)

it's not really nvidia screwing up either, it's just them focusing on another market primarily now

[pale sigil]

My WiFi is that bad lately I can’t even stream Netflix

[wheat plume]

Welcome to my life Callum

[cursive summit]

You shouldn't even touch Netflix with a ten feet pole

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume im right next to the router 😂

[wheat plume]

me too

[young pecan]

You don’t need Netflix, you get entertainment from sailing the high seas.

And by that I mean Sea of Thieves, certainly not anything else.

[pale sigil]

@young pecan Netflix and Plex is all ya need matey

[young pecan]

Plex only. :P

And those aren't mutually exclusive.

[pale sigil]

Lad

Netflix is just great

Can go on me TV and or monitor and wack on Netflix hassle free, my own profile, everything tracked and notifications when new eps re out

Can also download on all devices to watch offline

Plex does some of that true

But in my case the persons server I have access to doesn't have downloads enabled

I use Netflix everyday so I'm getting my monies worth

[cursive summit]

You know what's also great

Torrents

Free netflix

[zenith sonnet]

There's a 10-12% advantage for the 6900 XT. It does have 80 vs 72 CUs

[pale sigil]

@cursive summit effort

Kinda

I'd rather just start up. Netflix and click play

Not find a decent quality torrent, wait for it to download and then play either via vlc or run a media server to stream to my devices if not using my monitor.

@cursive summit

[young pecan]

@pale sigil If you have private trackers and bother to setup the software even badly you can have shit auto download and then redownload improved versions.

Literally netflix but better.

It's just that private trackers are hard to get established in and you need a server, but if you have those things then it's a matter of telling the software 'Hey, I want Vikings, gimmie' and it will.

[pale sigil]

I have private trackers

Still find it effort

[young pecan]

It is, but it's worth it.

[pale sigil]

I disagree

[young pecan]

Netflix is garbage for quality, sometimes you wanna watch something nice.

[pale sigil]

Especially with games

No? Lol

[young pecan]

Yes, actually.

[pale sigil]

4K Netflix is great

[young pecan]

I can prove this mathematically.

[pale sigil]

I know it's not native like

But it's good enough

[young pecan]

Sure, but it's garbage compared to native.

[pale sigil]

I don't need 40gb files for my TV shows lad

[young pecan]

Even a mediocre HDD will be enough.

[pale sigil]

As someone who streams native 4k content to I literally do not care enough for it

[young pecan]

And you can pretty easily grab 10TB.

Not actually that expensive.

Thank fuck for modern times.

[pale sigil]

Lad, I have a NAS lol

I choose not to torrent because I have no reason to

[young pecan]

shrugs Your loss.

I personally love native 4K content on an actually good display.

[pale sigil]

I mean if its a movie sure but I don't watch movies often

The plex server I have access to has native 4k content too

So not to bad but we were talking about Netflix

Netflix don't release their content native

[young pecan]

No, they don't, depressingly.

Though they do let you download it in native, and people have decrypted their shit.

So yeah, native if you know where to look.

[pale sigil]

So you telling me to pirated Netflix content is pointless

And no

You're wrong

What you're on about still isn't native

[young pecan]

In their app, no?

Iirc it's native but they're cheap.

So none of what they do is actually quality.

[pale sigil]

Also, amazon do great with 4k content

They just don't have much good content 😂

[young pecan]

I mean...

Same for Netflix, tbh.

Have you seen some of their CG shit?

Who the fuck renders 15FPS anymore?

Netflix can afford a goddamn server farm.

[pale sigil]

I love Netflix shows xD

15fps is a choice of the studio not Netflix

Netflix don't directly make content

They just hire people to do it

[young pecan]

Studios funded by Netflix.

Netflix is paying people to make shit.

The staff very easily could try to watch Ajin and say "Yeah, dont do that next time, sucks to watch"

That piece of garbage is a slideshow.

[pale sigil]

What show?

Are we on ahout

[young pecan]

Ajin Demi Human? An anime they added a while ago.

I got about 40 seconds in and nearly puked.

[pale sigil]

Cos if its dragon Prince

[young pecan]

That also greatly annoyed me.

Not nearly as bad as Ajin tho.

It's buttery compared to Ajin.

[pale sigil]

They are mostly design choices

Also it wasn't made by Netflix they just own the rights to it

[young pecan]

Listen, the reason stated for the low FPS is that the studio is underfunded like nothing else. A decent IP owner with a huge wallet like Netflix would actually give a shit about their creation.

I bring up The Boys as an example of that done right.

Staff needed more money, Amazon funded.

Turned out fantastic.

[pale sigil]

.....

[young pecan]

Really doesn't matter how many ways you spin it, Netflix doesn't care about much of what it does beyond money.

[pale sigil]

$17b

"lack of funds"

[young pecan]

Which one?

The Boys, or Ajin?

The Boys got funded well because those issues got axed before production even started.

[pale sigil]

Netflix give the amount of funding needed

I promise you the 15fps was a design choice

[young pecan]

Source for funding?

'Cause Netflix is worth 200 billion.

[pale sigil]

Themselves

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2020/digital/news/netflix-2020-content-spending-17-billion-1203469237/amp/

Worth doesn't mean spending

[young pecan]

-_-

In 2020.

[pale sigil]

Exactly

[young pecan]

Ajin was released in 2016.

[pale sigil]

Mate

[young pecan]

That's not any good info to work off.

[pale sigil]

My bad

Only a minor $6b

[young pecan]

Across their whole platform that's not actually heaps.

How much did they release that year?

[pale sigil]

In 2019

[young pecan]

In 2016.

[pale sigil]

371

Apparently

AFAIK they didn't have many originals back then but you ain't listening

They didn't fund the show

They bought the rights

[young pecan]

On the note of that, actually.

Ajin got an actual movie.

Apparently awful.

[pale sigil]

Most movies are when from anime or. Nanga source material

[young pecan]

No no, I mean the acting and such.

Apparently it was real bad.

[pale sigil]

10am till 5pm me battery has gone down 35%

Boo

[young pecan]

Can't decide if I wanna switch to Android, tbh.

IOS is great if you jailbreak, but Android is literally Linux.

[pale sigil]

Haha

At least you're being honest

[wheat plume]

debating going back to Miui 12

[reef patrol]

Also Netflix : Cancels shows left and right. They're the new Syfy.

[pale sigil]

True haha

[jolly fulcrum]

Has anyone here used the YMDK Carbon keycap set on a Wooting keyboard and could show a picture?

[pale sigil]

So ugh '

these fans done light up

unless i have em loud

noice

[pale sigil]

Haha

Can someone suggest me fans

Nine led versions

[dark tangle]

120 or 140 mm?

[ashen spindle]

noctua

[dark tangle]

lol

[ashen spindle]

just tape some leds on

[dark tangle]

https://www.amazon.nl/Akasa-AK-LD08-RB-120-Ventilator-Frame/dp/B07JCXK76P

like this?

[steep yoke]

I only buy Noctua fans now. I hate changing out fans after 6-8 years.

[ashen spindle]

I'm just suggesting it bc I know he hates the color and since he's already going for a basically all-white build

[steep yoke]

In my experience. Replace stock fans after 2-3 years, high end aftermarket like Cougar for 6 years. Noctua, haven't had one fail yet, but I've only had them for about 7 years now.

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle I am deeply sorry

i will never doubt you again master senpai

These fans are shit.

[ashen spindle]

lmao I actually dont know shit about fans

I know noctua works and thats pretty much it

[pale sigil]

i knew they wouldn't be perfect

i ust didn't expect this

1 corsair case fan is better than 3 of these

my temps went up 10-15c

[misty pier]

noctua and be quiet are the brands I stick with

[pale sigil]

ye

But

Noctua ugly

xD

[wheat plume]

very ugly

[pale sigil]

though they are bringing in white fans

so i will buy them one day

[hearty lake]

is it right that not all wooting keyboards have the same switches? i mean, the wooting two he is from 0.1mm to@4mm and the wooting one from 1.5 to 3.6mm. kinda confused now why there is every one zalking about the wooting one if the wooting two he has the better specs... 🤔

[ashen spindle]

1/2 are the same, HE is the one starting a 0.1, that one is not out yet but will be out around april

[hearty lake]

well that make sens then 🙂 thanks

[zenith sonnet]

Didn't check for 3 days and we're now up to beta F31q

Still no dice, though

[old marlin]

Fml i hate linux so fucking much

My ubuntu server install stick decided to not be able to complete an install anymore

Which i only did cause the default setting enabled LVM and i decided it is quicker to reinstall it

Thanks

[rugged pelican]

ubuntu pls

[old marlin]

Now i get to experience germany again

We were supposed to have fiber here half a year ago

[old marlin]

Yea idk crashes no matter what i do

[pale sigil]

Ooft my domain name cost me £19

[misty pier]

I paid 2 years for around $15 🤔

[pale sigil]

its done

[wheat plume]

UmU

[peak dagger]

MrPleasent

LOL

nice tho

[pale sigil]

100 god damn posts

i spent an hour last night replying to so much shit

makes sense haha

2nd class royal mail

ohh nvm

its just because the items were small

[misty pier]

I should play around with cinebench 🤔

never even benched my pc at all

[pale sigil]

mine are quite a bit lower

than they should be

[misty pier]

yours is running at stock?

[pale sigil]

4.6

[misty pier]

bone stock perf

🤔

[wheat plume]

there is a high pitched noise on my PC when certain apps are open, such as minecraft and the firefox browser

could it be a fan? it sounds like it might be coming from one of them but idk

[ashen spindle]

either fan or coil whine, idk

[wheat plume]

is that dangerous?

[young pecan]

@wheat plume Mind describing the noise? Does it sound like things rubbing together? Is it metal sounding? Plastic friction noises?

Could be a lot of things.

[wheat plume]

its not rubbing, or metal sounding, its a high pitched tone

[young pecan]

Probably coil whine.

[wheat plume]

it changes pitch as I look around in minecraft

or scrolling in firefox

[young pecan]

Yeah, coil whine.

[wheat plume]

hmm... is it bad?

[young pecan]

Can you open your case and listen closely to the graphics card for me?

[wheat plume]

the fans are also loud rn cause minecraft but one moment

[young pecan]

If it’s coil whine you’ll hear it from the GPU, nowhere specific.

[wheat plume]

yeah seems it might be from GPU

or the rear fan

[young pecan]

That’s coil whine, then.

[misty pier]

coil whine goes bzzzzzt

[young pecan]

It’s not harmful to the hardware itself, but it can get damn annoying.

[wheat plume]

it is annoying... Im sensitive to high pitches

[young pecan]

Hmm.

[misty pier]

you wear headphones or use speakers?

[young pecan]

Are you alright doing DIY fuckery projects?

[wheat plume]

mix of both

[wheat plume]

uh... depends

[misty pier]

decent pair of cans should at least block the noise

[young pecan]

If I were you I’d remove the shroud from the GPU and get a CPU headsink mount.

Might cost you $100 total.

[misty pier]

side panel on too should help reduce the noise aswell

[wheat plume]

yeah, the side panel is always on, but the entire front, back and top of this case is a grid pattern!

so sound leaks so easily

[young pecan]

What you want then is to buy a CPU cooler like a small Noctua tower cooler, whatever can fit in the case, and get an adapter plate.

They can be had from eBay.

[ashen spindle]

just see if its a known issue of your exact model (so not just 1660 but which one exactly) and see if others could find that it can be removed by adjusting gpu speeds maybe

[cursive summit]

Coil whine can also be PSU

[wheat plume]

oh, hm

[cursive summit]

At least for me it was PSU that was coil whining

[young pecan]

I still say do the franken-cooler!

[misty pier]

my gpu has coil whine

[wheat plume]

idk how id check that

[young pecan]

It’s such good performance.

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume You are still covered by waranty send that shit for repairs

[wheat plume]

hm, ok

[young pecan]

Oh shit, warranty is still up?!

[wheat plume]

the gpu?

[misty pier]

warranty covers that?

[ashen spindle]

coil whine is not a sign of something broken usually

[misty pier]

thought it's normal

[wheat plume]

it might be mega dusty though

I need to clean my PC at some point

[cursive summit]

You just got that PC..

[wheat plume]

yeah, my room is dusty af

[cursive summit]

No way it's already dusty

[misty pier]

bedroom pc?

[wheat plume]

yep

[misty pier]

same deal as you

[cursive summit]

You need a deduster

[young pecan]

Most SIs are alright doing warranty for Coil Whine.

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's coil whine, see if applying a framerate limiter helps

[cursive summit]

Ireland is not U.S

[misty pier]

I have no idea how to cope with the dust in my room

[ashen spindle]

also not a system from a SI

[cursive summit]

Looks normal

[young pecan]

Not terrible.

[cursive summit]

Yeah like your typical PC after few months

[misty pier]

just wipe it down and you're good to go

[young pecan]

Wraith mini tower.

[cursive summit]

Is that a diode to indicate power?

[wheat plume]

SI?

yes

[young pecan]

System integrator.

[wheat plume]

oh, for prebuilts?

[young pecan]

Yeh.

[cursive summit]

Hers is DIY built yeah

[wheat plume]

this isnt prebuilt but ah, ok!

[cursive summit]

But retailers still offer warranty for parts

[young pecan]

Though I have had an old Asus card that got RMAd for coil whine.

[cursive summit]

Lemme check

[misty pier]

that means no gpu for a week if I do send it back :(

[wheat plume]

its mostly gone cause minecraft isnt fullscreen rn

but its still faint

[wheat plume]

it means no display output for me cause my CPU has no graphics

[ashen spindle]

no point in sending stuff back if you just get a new one and it has the same bc coil whine is normal if the product is designed in certain ways

[young pecan]

Yeah, it’s probably an issue with the power delivery on the GPU or possibly the PSU.

[misty pier]

yeah mines has no igpu onboard either

[ashen spindle]

hence, look up coil whine + your gpu model before you do anything else and see if it's a known issue

[wheat plume]

I recently carried my computer in the car, I did recheck the connections and power plug, but I will check it again

[cursive summit]

Just smack it

[young pecan]

Whine is rarely caused by transport damage.

Could easily just be a minor fault in the power delivery, that’s easily the most common cause.

[misty pier]

whisper kind words to it so it will be quiet

[cursive summit]

Look, best thing to do in such situations is

[wheat plume]

LOL

[cursive summit]

When my rig used to coil whine

I smacked it and it would stop

[misty pier]

always works eh?

[young pecan]

Palm strikes? Use a hammer. :P

[cursive summit]

Yep

For coil whine it's 100% effective

It'd happen again but smack it and it stops

[misty pier]

I'm always too worried I will slap mine too hard

but this thing is made of steel.. I doubt I can bend steel with a palm strike alone

[young pecan]

Palm strike is for games crashing, hammer is for screen flickering, sledgehammer is for corrupted OS.

[wheat plume]

heh?

[cursive summit]

I mean if coil whine is happening that means power current is not moving well enough

Enhance the current

Pee on the GPU

[young pecan]

Just put salt on the VRMs, 4head.

[wheat plume]

surely my PSU is good enough .... its way over the wattage needed for the system

[cursive summit]

Your PSU is fine

I mean listen in on what's coil whining

Replacing a PSU is 10x cheaper than a GPU

[wheat plume]

it near the GPU / motherboard

[pale sigil]

Her psu is corsair right

[young pecan]

GPU, then.

[cursive summit]

I can't remember what her shit is

[young pecan]

Or maybe mobo.

[cursive summit]

I think it's 550W something

[young pecan]

But given the whine kicks in games it’s not that.

[wheat plume]

Cooler master

[pale sigil]

It's most likely the GPU, coil wine happens

[ashen spindle]

ok, simple option: get afterburner or something, set fan speed to 100% while you don't hear the noise

[pale sigil]

Ye

Was about to say

Haha

[cursive summit]

Callum pretending to be smart kappa

[wheat plume]

:P

[pale sigil]

Nah, I've just had a lot of experience with annoying GPUs

Lmao

[misty pier]

maybe turn your music louder to drown out the noise

[wheat plume]

hehe

[young pecan]

Not a great PSU, good enough tho.

[cursive summit]

It was 80+ something so good enough

Defo good enough

[pale sigil]

Hardly a solution

[wheat plume]

I wanna get a modular PSU next time , cause the cable mess is so bad xd

[young pecan]

Honestly, Silverstone is where the dope PSUs are at.

[pale sigil]

If its the GPU I'd rma it

[young pecan]

Inject it into my eyes.

[pale sigil]

Or return it

Fuck coil wine

[misty pier]

works for me, even though my pc is quiet as my pupper

[wheat plume]

my fans get quite loud

but im very very close to my PC

[cursive summit]

Nah get a Thermaltake. The coil whine is so great it acts like a punching bag. You can ease off your nerves.

[young pecan]

Just hook the silverstone PSUs directly into my cornea.

Fuck it.

[wheat plume]

:P

[pale sigil]

Told my friend to return his 3090

But he wouldn't

Don't blame him haha

[young pecan]

Bruh.

Why even buy a 3090?

[cursive summit]

Psychological warfare to get yourself one?

[young pecan]

It’s such a dumb purchase.

[pale sigil]

Eh he went full dream build mode

[cursive summit]

We'll see if 3090 gets fucked by the 3080Ti

[pale sigil]

Got the most top tier stuff

[misty pier]

big numbers give people boners

[wheat plume]

I limited the FPS to 200 in the minecraft options and the whine is gone...

[pale sigil]

5950x etc

Nah

Irs not about thst

[young pecan]

Mate, listen.

Mate.

If he’s not running a 64 core CPU he’s weeeeeak.

It’s super needed.

[pale sigil]

He's been screwed over for so long and been shat on for making choices and listening to people he decided to yolo and make the best possible build

[young pecan]

64 core solitaire.

[cursive summit]

2nd gen Xeon or bust.

[pale sigil]

I obviously advised not to get a 3090

But it was his choice

[young pecan]

Just do a duel Epyc system.

[pale sigil]

And who am I to bully him for it

[young pecan]

Buy an IBM Z15 and use it as a router.

[cursive summit]

@pale sigil His boyfriend?

[wheat plume]

LOL, I guess I was getting TOO MUCH fps in minecraft

[pale sigil]

No

[cursive summit]

Aw

[wheat plume]

cause limited to 150FPS, I hear nothing

[cursive summit]

Unfortunate

[misty pier]

maybe it's because you gpu is under more load without a frame cap

[wheat plume]

yeah, seems so

[young pecan]

^

[ashen spindle]

Yes that’s how coil whine usually happens

[pale sigil]

Lana

[wheat plume]

yo

[misty pier]

higher loads can sometimes cause whining

[pale sigil]

Turn the fans to 100%

[wheat plume]

they basically are

[pale sigil]

Forget about load

Etc

[wheat plume]

hahah

[pale sigil]

No

Not basically

[misty pier]

my gpu sounds like a jet engine with full fan speeds

[pale sigil]

Just do it

[young pecan]

Get a 12,000 RPM server fan.

[wheat plume]

same Claire, that one fan is under stress

[young pecan]

Zip tie it to the GPU shroud.

[cursive summit]

@young pecan The LTT banana blender they showcased?

[young pecan]

c o o l I i n g

[misty pier]

god server rooms are so loud because of those fans

[young pecan]

Nah.

That’s 11,000 RPM.

[misty pier]

I can barely hear myself speak with those fans spinning in there

[young pecan]

You can get bigger ones that go faster.

[pale sigil]

What?

[young pecan]

Iirc you can get 3U fans that hit 20,000 RPM, but they’re too expensive and niche for any real use.

[wheat plume]

in the case of cooling fans, you saying that bigger is better?

[misty pier]

why do you need one for 3U???

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Is komplett out of business?

[young pecan]

Fuck knows.

[cursive summit]

They have no GPUs on sale

[young pecan]

People make em, tho.

[wheat plume]

idk honestly, they barely have any stock

[misty pier]

size does not matter

[young pecan]

Maybe you reaaaaaally wanna pass air into the damn CPU cooler.

It better be a goddamn tundra in the case.

[cursive summit]

I don't even see warranty for the GT 1030s they are selling @wheat plume

Might not be covered then

[misty pier]

i mean you screwed up if the server room itself isn't a tundra already

[wheat plume]

I think there is one from asus themselves for it

[misty pier]

made the mistake of wearing shorts and short sleeves into a server room

[young pecan]

Lmfao

[wheat plume]

oh boi

[young pecan]

C’mon, how did you see that as a good idea?

[misty pier]

it was during the summer

didn't know it was that cold

[young pecan]

:P

What was yours at?

10c or something?

8c?

[misty pier]

probably around there

I don't remember much from my tour there

what a miserable place to be though

cold and noisy

[young pecan]

You’d think so.

You’d also be right.

nods

I just can’t wait until the next major CPU breakthrough.

It’s gotta be either carbon based electronics, something around there, or far bigger and denser CPU packages.

Not including quantum computation, obviously.

[wheat plume]

sounds like my moms house when shes home .-.

[misty pier]

my mother is lovely but kind of nosy

[pale sigil]

How

[misty pier]

likes to peep in my room and ask me what I'm doing

[young pecan]

That’s the worst.

[pale sigil]

Are ya winning love

[wheat plume]

my mom just shouts up the stairs to ask me to do shit all the time even if she cna hear me in a voice call with people

[young pecan]

And then she gets pissed when you don’t hear her as you’re in the middle of shit.

Yeh.

[wheat plume]

^^^

same here

[young pecan]

Mine did that, so I snipped that shit hard in the bud.

Now I get texts.

System works so much better.

[misty pier]

I'm just in the middle of a game and my mother asks me to order something on amazon for her

[young pecan]

._.

[misty pier]

same thing with my father

[young pecan]

It’s fuckin’ Amazon, this shit is not hard to use.

[wheat plume]

mom asked me earlier today how to make a capital letter on her phone even though it automatically makes the first letter capital .

[young pecan]

Well...

It’s Amazon, their UI is garbage.

[misty pier]

showerhead broke last night and I got interrupted while playing some rimworld

[wheat plume]

yes and no xd

[young pecan]

Yeah, I realised what I said right after I said it.

I mean...

There’s eBay? That’s not as badly done?

Facebook marketplace sometimes?

[misty pier]

🤔

[wheat plume]

Minecraft still minimises when I focus an app on the other screen

ffs, defeats the purpose of having two screens

[young pecan]

Rlly?

Weird.

It’s on borderless fullscreen, right?

[misty pier]

i use borderless gaming so my window stays open regardless

[wheat plume]

fullscreen

maximising has stutters when I move the mouse

fullscreen is smooth AF

[young pecan]

Drivers up to date?

[wheat plume]

yep

[young pecan]

Strange.

Have you DDUd your GPU drovers recently?

[wheat plume]

have I what?

[young pecan]

Display Driver Uninstaller. It’s useful for deleting old drivers so you don’t get upgrade artefacts.

Sometimes nvidia are a bunch of lazy asshats and leave broken shit in.

Not often, but it’s been known to happen.

[wheat plume]

oh, you can tell geforce experience to remove the old ones

idk what it does on Linux, it probably deletes the old ones

[ashen spindle]

usually only needed if you change card

[young pecan]

Usually, but nvidia has been doing some pretty core upgrades recently.

I had to DDU and I’ve had the same 1080Ti the whole time.

[pale sigil]

RE: mums

My mum doesn't come into my room because she was ashamed haha so it was a double edge sword

But now that irs clean etc she knocks thankfully

[misty pier]

doors always open so

but idm it at all

[pale sigil]

Well, I close it because me room gets cold it I don't

[wheat plume]

even setting minecrtaft to always stay ontop of other windows it STILL MINIMISES .-.

[pale sigil]

I'm pretty open about my stuff, I don't even lock mh computer when I leave the house lol

[cursive summit]

For a second I thought you leave your house door open

[misty pier]

i keep it open for airflow

[cursive summit]

PM me your address right quick

[pale sigil]

Well

Tbh

We are in a nice neighbourhood lol

Just recently mum left the key in the door and it was open, someone knocked on to tell us ^^

[misty pier]

good neighbors you got

[cursive summit]

Ngl if I got a free TV from someone's living room, I'd also knock to tell them thanks

[latent mural]

Ayo, found a more or less MSRP Rx 6800

https://azerty.nl/product/sapphire/4421636/amd-radeon-rx-6800-pulse-oc-gaming-graphics-card

for any euros out there

[cursive summit]

That link is bait I feel like, what kind of name is azerty

[latent mural]

😦

it's a keyboard layout

french speakers use it

[cursive summit]

I know, but for a store name?

[latent mural]

😔

[ashen spindle]

more or less msrp? ehhhh not really

[latent mural]

€580 - VAT

[ashen spindle]

guess better than the usual scalping price at least

[cursive summit]

663 ain't half bad for those cards

[ashen spindle]

the XT variants is supposed to be 650, so....

[latent mural]

with VAT?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[latent mural]

ah

nevermind then 😔

I only know the US pricing really

since I wasn't really looking for these cards

[cursive summit]

Wait in what world is XT 650 euros

[ashen spindle]

usually eu pricing for these things = us pricing numbers wise, with VAT included in the number for euro

649 is msrp

[cursive summit]

RX 6800 XT is available starting at $649

Make that into EUR plus VAT

That's a whole lot more

[ashen spindle]

yes 649€ msrp

[cursive summit]

Nowhere near that

21% VAT here

That's why I'm disgusted cheapest 3070s are 800

[ashen spindle]

cool so its supposed msrp of 641€ for you then

really dont care about an 8€ difference

[cursive summit]

What? 😄

USD => EUR + VAT

[ashen spindle]

yes your numbers are wrong

[cursive summit]

How tf is American pricing = European pricing with all the customs it has to go through

[ashen spindle]

bc it's not being shipped from america to the eu??????

[cursive summit]

AMD cards are being made in EU?

America or China/Taiwan those things go through customs

Unless MSRP is including that price already

Then I digress

[ashen spindle]

what you think sending stuff from china to the US is free and sending it to the EU not?

[latent mural]

€ is more valuable

[cursive summit]

Usually it's 1:1.1:1.2 when it comes to USD:EUR:GBP relations

Not that different

[wheat plume]

What's the best way to dust off a GPU?

[latent mural]

but yeah, sometimes companies make it the $ - VAT

best way to dust off a GPU is with compressed air

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Either a brush for cheap, or if you want to spend money compressed air

[wheat plume]

Any brush ?

What about a sister?

-.-

Duster*

[cursive summit]

@ashen spindle I never said that. AMD doesn't provide the price for European MSRP.

SISTER DUSTER

[wheat plume]

Xd

[cursive summit]

Yeah any brush

I used a painting brush

[wheat plume]

I should remove the hard drive bay shroud

But I'd need to dig through all the cables to unscrew it and pull it out

Can barely see it xd

[cursive summit]

Nice budget SSD

[wheat plume]

It was €80

[ashen spindle]

1tb?

[wheat plume]

More expensive than my nvme :/

250gb

[cursive summit]

THE WHAT NOW

[ashen spindle]

...man you got scammed

[cursive summit]

That's a rip off

[wheat plume]

Welcome to Ireland

Permanent scalper prices

[cursive summit]

Literally same brand

[wheat plume]

Ye...
Irish prices are nearly 30% extra than normal

It's to account for import fees and store profit

[cursive summit]

You mean 2x extra than normal? 😄

30% is a bit of an understatement

[wheat plume]

Some things sure feel that way

[cursive summit]

Next time you want to build a rig, I'll built it for you here for actually decent prices

And ship that shit for you

[wheat plume]

Hmm

[cursive summit]

Fuck me your prices are atrocious wtf

[ashen spindle]

I mean... https://www.komplett.ie/crucial-bx500-240-gb/20902964/product

[wheat plume]

My new computer was €840 + delivery
But mostly cause I went overboard on the motherboard to get WiFi and bluetooth built in

[cursive summit]

That's an actually decent price though

BX ain't amazing but 45 euros is fine

[wheat plume]

Yeh!

My nvme is fast though

[cursive summit]

Oh yeah your SSD

Costs 30 euros here

😄

[wheat plume]

I have the WD Black 250gb nvme also
I use that for linux

[cursive summit]

Lana you kinda paid 100 euros less than I did and got a whole lot less

[wheat plume]

Huh?

[ashen spindle]

https://www.custompc.ie/intenso-top-performance-2-5-512-gb-serial-ata-iii-mlc-1019949.html_custom_gaming_pcs_ireland

[cursive summit]

Ngl my GPU is better, and the SSD doesn't suck

And I paid not that much more

And that's a prebuilt 😄

[wheat plume]

what gpu?

[cursive summit]

RX 5700 lass

[wheat plume]

hm, whats the nvidia equivalent?

[cursive summit]

Dunno, RTX 2070?

[wheat plume]

oohh dang

[reef patrol]

Something between a 2060 and 2070, yes.

[cursive summit]

Unless you use the OC software then it's more like a 5700XT

[ashen spindle]

trades blows with a 2060 super so yea

[cursive summit]

But yeah don't buy from Ireland

And don't exit EU

[wheat plume]

LOL

[cursive summit]

Cause then you'll pay even more

[pale sigil]

Ooft

The current bios im on has issues were the system randomly shuts down

Just experienced it

[ashen spindle]

newer bios out or do you need to downgrade?

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/please-no-michael-scott-the-office-no-god-please-no-steve-carell-gif-3532257

no

nooo

nooo

no

😦

[ashen spindle]

see on the bright side

if it is a broken gpu you can get warranty and get one for cheaper

[pale sigil]

hmm

seems to only happen in my browser

graphics driver keeps drying

😢

[ashen spindle]

maybe you got scammed and got a launch 2080

[pale sigil]

If it was any other time I'd be fine

But it's Xmas

Let's hope it was a loose cable

I just re attached them all

[misty pier]

so its like the rtx 2000 fiasco

[pale sigil]

good news

[ashen spindle]

it's the first time I see/hear of it on the 30

[pale sigil]

nothing bad has happened yet

i think it was a bad wire

or well

loose

[misty pier]

ram it in

[ashen spindle]

[pale sigil]

AND NOW I HAVE FUZZY AUDIO

[misty pier]

sweet talk it

[pale sigil]

Oh

So it isn't my dac

[hard thicket]

@pale sigil happend to my rig with the 3090 build in, first the ram suddenly became unstable and caused a bsod

then random shutdowns with artifacts

then in the end it didn't even boot up anymore

how did i solve it ?

i didnt

was trying to get everything together to refund it, send it back next day i plug it in, works.

never experienced such a bullshit before with a gpu

[pale sigil]

I just re attached my wires

As for audio it seemed to fix itself

[edgy hull]

@hard thicket I'd contact the company about it still. What GPU was it?

[pale sigil]

Noice

computer just went off

no reason

[crimson wigeon]

The hell you doing to that poor thing

[misty pier]

mans probably experimenting the hell out of it

[pale sigil]

nvm

it was the lead

[ashen spindle]

at least, if you do break it, there are nice new white models to replace it https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-strix-geforce-rtx-3090-gundam-edition-pictured-up-close

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle stahp

[ashen spindle]

holy shit, secret AMD roadmap leaked

https://twitter.com/philparkbot/status/1341107321892532224

Park 😷 (@philparkbot)

Updated version:

Twitter · Dec 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/please-dont-kristen-bell-dont-do-that-no-gif-5334349

[wheat plume]

The AKG headphones sound great but idk about the build quality

I'm watching reviews who actually have the same concerns I do

https://youtu.be/g3cajpuSIH8

This is glued on

The last time I had a pair that did this, the headband came off after a year

The entire padding came loose

[pale sigil]

is it bad ive spend 2 hours

[ashen spindle]

yes

[pale sigil]

lookng at screwdriver sets, tool boxes and screw boxes

[pale sigil]

[wheat plume]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phanteks-Neon-Digital-RGB-Strip/dp/B07XLPH8WW

Oo
This is neat

[zenith sonnet]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/up-to-17-more-fps-at-1080p-ultra-cyberpunk-2077-in-big-ram-test-round-trip-rate-and-ranks/2/

Wow, this is a huge difference

Explains some of the weird stuff, too

Cyberpunk may actually be neither CPU nor GPU limited in some configs

But rather memory bendwidth starved

[young pecan]

Well yeah.

It’s a massive game with a lot of moving parts, unless you load the whole game into RAM (I’d like to see that) I’ll happily bet the AI is causing some problems simply due to how much there is.

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume then get DT 770s

Similar price, similar/worse audio quality, much better build quality

[halcyon moss]

Factorio is heavily optimized in the memory department, they activively try to layout the memory to prevent cache misses etc

[devout owl]

Are we able to replace the switches? If so which ones will fit

[halcyon moss]

yes, but only compatible flaretech on the flaretech boards, and compatible gaterons on the HE board. (but there is only one kind HE switch exists)

[devout owl]

so flaretech yellow switches?

[halcyon moss]

those do no exist for the wooting 1/2 afaik

[devout owl]

okay

i like the gk61 yellow switches so was hoping to get something comparible lol

[halcyon moss]

!switchchoice

[patent glacier]

Choosing the perfect switch is important and a hard choice! To help with your choice check out our guide here.

https://wooting.helpscoutdocs.com/article/52-what-switch-is-right-for-me

[devout owl]

thanks

[halcyon moss]

so basically, no other switches than the ones wooting provides fit, because of its analouge

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle Hey, does the Lian Li havea reset button? I connected the reset but doesnt work X_x

[halcyon moss]

@zenith sonnet i wonder how thats the case for the not super high end cpus, like a 3700x of 3600

[old marlin]

@ashen spindle white models are gundam ones

so asia only

afaik

or whait

nvm

there is a white AND a gundam one

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore I think it’s the small Button next to the power button?

Didn’t need to try it yet lol

[fickle ore]

yeah I thought so, but doesnt work -.-

[ashen spindle]

Did you try bridging the pins to make sure the reset on the board is working?

[fickle ore]

yea ofc, will check later

[wheat plume]

Hmm......
Okkk I'll look at those

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume Do you need wireless?

[wheat plume]

Not really if the audio jack cable is long enough

[cursive summit]

dt770 ships with 3m cable

[wheat plume]

Ah right

That's long enough

[cursive summit]

Sadly only one, unlike AKG371 which gets 3 different cables

[wheat plume]

Braided?

[cursive summit]

Seems like no

[wheat plume]

Same adjustment design as my current headphones

Oh wait
That's a large jack

[thick elk]

As long as it's replacable (which it really should be at this price point) you can always get / make a different cable.

Oh never mind it's not.
that's kind of bad imo.

Sure you could still do it but still.

[halcyon moss]

thats a large jack, which is a screw on on top of the mini-jack

i have the dt770, its great. especially for the price

[old marlin]

I sure love my treble spikes

[halcyon moss]

is that the dt770 curves?

[old marlin]

dt770 pro to be exact

but same drivers

[halcyon moss]

there's a non pro?

[old marlin]

ye

different cable afaik

and non 250 ohm versions?

[halcyon moss]

yeah i fot the 80 ohm version

[cursive summit]

What are the AKG K371 curves

Hm

Seems a lot more consistent

[reef tundra]

y=sin(x)

[cursive summit]

Does look like that yes

[thick elk]

Wait almost 0 volume at 4k, that does not seem right.
Hmm seems to really be the case but only on a fairly narrow frequency. Basically seems to be a trade-off of lowering the base volume a bit.

[wheat plume]

Oo
Wtf

[cursive summit]

https://developer-tech.com/news/2020/dec/14/directx-creator-dies-aged-55-game-changing-legacy/

[thick elk]

Rip, I wish DirectX died instead of it's creator.

[old marlin]

cause reasons

[cursive summit]

Lol what

DirectX is good

[halcyon moss]

ppl dont remember the days before directx

[cursive summit]

So, no games days?

[halcyon moss]

yes games, but configuring irqs etc

for every damn game

[reef patrol]

DX is from the mid ninetees. Of course people don't remember 😄

[halcyon moss]

:p

[crimson wigeon]

But all that DOS nonsense was great

[halcyon moss]

was it though? 🤔

[cursive summit]

Is Vulkan built from scratch or a DX derivative?

[crimson wigeon]

Yes

[old marlin]

from scratch

[crimson wigeon]

Well, Vulkan is based on Mantle

[old marlin]

is a successor to opengl afaik

nah

vulkan is not based on mantle

afaik

[ashen spindle]

vulkan is an opengl replacement, which took a lot from mantle

[old marlin]

ye

[old marlin]

mantle support list is like 8 games or something

eh

so it uses some remnants of mantle

[ashen spindle]

"The cross-vendor Khronos Group has chosen the best and brightest parts of Mantle to serve as the foundation for “Vulkan,” the exciting next version of the storied OpenGL API."

[old marlin]

btw star citizen runs mantle

[crimson wigeon]

No it doesn't

Vulkan renderer is supposedly being worked on however....

[wheat plume]

Vulkan FTW <3

[old marlin]

since you only like it for linux support that makes me hate vulkan

canonical is not even able to make a functional installer

btw solution was loading THE SAME DAMN ISO FILE via idrac

[halcyon moss]

its been a long time since ive had issues with the ubuntu installer

[reef tundra]

That is why you get Arch instead

[halcyon moss]

last time i had issues because the usb flash stick creator did something wrong

with uefi

[wheat plume]

I love calamares installer

you can add any functionalty you wish to

[reef tundra]

didnt make the boot partision an fat filesystem?

[old marlin]

ah yes

[wheat plume]

such as arcolinux letting you choose whatever software and kernel you want during install

[old marlin]

get arch

[halcyon moss]

such a non issue :p

[wheat plume]

calamares doesnt only work on Arch

[old marlin]

why do I not compile my own distro

[wheat plume]

itll work on any distro

[halcyon moss]

because everything is installable afterwards

[wheat plume]

tbh, its mostly used on arch base, but it doesnt matter

[old marlin]

just make your own OS

[wheat plume]

LFS xd

[reef tundra]

That is gentoo

[halcyon moss]

no

gentoo is automated lfs

[wheat plume]

Gentoo Linux: Stimulate your autism

[halcyon moss]

and i know, ran it for years 10 years ago

[wheat plume]

ooof

good luck doing updates, youll be waiting hours for all the updates to compile and build

[halcyon moss]

my core 2 duo laptop was running a lot of nights

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah

[wheat plume]

wow

[reef tundra]

But atleast you can compile it with the most obscure compiler you can find because it was minimal

[crimson wigeon]

I zink for my next server project I'll try some hip and modern meme like openSUSE MicroOS

[halcyon moss]

unfold loops ofcourse

everything with -03

[wheat plume]

nah, lets all use Clear Linux

xd

[reef tundra]

-Wall

[halcyon moss]

and minimal useflags so you have to recompile THE WHOLE WORLD if you forgot one

[crimson wigeon]

-Wextra

And don't forget -Werror

[wheat plume]

Clear Linux: Made by Intel. Runs better on Ryzen CPUs

[reef tundra]

-Wall. already does that all. wait. let me see the man pages

[halcyon moss]

glad i'm on ubuntu. no more dealing with that anymore

[wheat plume]

I hated Ubuntu

some apps I use arent available

(ICE SSB mostly)

and I did get it installed but it didnt work very well cause it was a much older version

[old marlin]

some apps I use arent available

like directx

[wheat plume]

:')

all the games I play myself are able to run on Linux, natively or in proton

even BF4 can

[old marlin]

well

if they weren't you wouldn't play them

[wheat plume]

I do play TitanFall 2, I havent checked how that works in proton yet

and I play bf1 and gtav on windows cause it breaks itself if you alt tab

but it does that on windows anyway so eh

[ashen spindle]

not for me

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah I've found that Windows games using "exclusive fullscreen" tend to shit themselves when losing focus, switching to borderless clears them up

[wheat plume]

I was in mission with friends and I alt tabbed to reply to discord and I got kicked from the server and put into my own session

[ashen spindle]

gta5 has massive issues, especially online, but the game itself runs just fine and I can alt tab all day

[reef tundra]

ah found it

[crimson wigeon]

Probably cause they think they get minimized but my system doesn't have that so they get stuck waiting for unminimize

[reef tundra]

hehe

[wheat plume]

dafuq is this?

[reef tundra]

the man page of gcc on -Wall and -Wextra flags

[ashen spindle]

that more sounds like you tabbed out and it put into another session bc it counts tabbed out in fullscreen as AFK

so its a 2 minute timer before it kicks you as afk

[wheat plume]

i took maybe 30 seconds to reply and tab back in

[halcyon moss]

i was talking about optimizer flags, and youre listing compiler warning flags?

[ashen spindle]

if it otherwise sets you in a session by just removing every other play, so it doesnt have you in a loadingscreen, then your internet had issues and it throttled it

neither case comes from alt tab or anything

[wheat plume]

thge only issues my internet has is high af ping

I was downloading the GTA update at 6-8mb/s on steam

[ashen spindle]

then maybe if you do something else it schedules gta traffic as lower priority or something idk

[reef tundra]

Because it is good to also include those compiler warning flags.. about the optimizer flag. There is an 4th level, but most compilers will treat it the same as O3. You can also have it optimise for memory use vs processor cycles.

[ashen spindle]

but not a gta issue

[wheat plume]

it also randomly puts me in my own sessions if im not in a mission even though im in my friends session, so he has to join mine

[reef tundra]

compilers are crazy complex, and a wonder they exist at all.

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean "randomly", just while you are doing stuff, or after you complete a heist or something?

[wheat plume]

what tf this? need to look this up

[reef tundra]

Could be that you temporairly lost connection to the rockstar server which causes you to have a solo online lobby..

[wheat plume]

hmm during a voice call

guess makes sense

[reef tundra]

Rockstar server are known for their impeccable function ofcourse

[wheat plume]

clearly

[reef tundra]

That is also how you can intentionally get an solo lobby. By temporairly block your internet for few seconds.

[ashen spindle]

and thank god for that

only way to do online content reliably while not having to play in open sessions with randoms and hackers

[wheat plume]

the last day when we were trying to find a session to start the heist in, we ran onto a bunch of hackers, they just targetted us with rocket launchers and teleported across the map when we respawned

[reef tundra]

Makes doing the missions possible without constant jet, oppressor, etc harrasment

[wheat plume]

^^

[ashen spindle]

that's why you open a friends/crew only sessions, randoms cant join there

[wheat plume]

we eventually got into our own session

[ashen spindle]

you know you can make your own sessions so you dont need to join new ones constantly?

[reef tundra]

The worst hackers are the ones that make the framerate tank

[wheat plume]

how?

[ashen spindle]

either open a crew/friends only sessions, for some missions that works, other only work in a "normal" sessions

for the other cases you limit your network until you are suddenly in a session alone and have them join you

takes a good half hour or more for the game to then have randoms join that sessions again

[wheat plume]

we played like 2 hours and no one joined it

mm, naked graphics cards xd

[reef tundra]

Dont remember how they managed to tank the framerate, but it was definitly an thing. Someone joined, everyone starts mentioning low framerate, the person leaves and framerate returns. Faced those people sometimes, its hella annoying. Usually scriptkiddies that can play for shit. Had a few fights where I fought them 1v1 style. They ate dirt and raged in the chat about it. Even with their framerate hacks advantage they still cant beat me. Although mostly cheesing my way with c4, granades etc

Framerate becomes like 10 to 15

Makes aiming very hard

[wheat plume]

I can run the game for the most part at over 60FPS on high settings

Since im running the game from a slow ass 5400RPM drive, it takes a while to stablise the FPS after loading

[reef tundra]

Same, I have it set to high and well above 60fps normally.

[wheat plume]

my panel is 75Hz, so thats my new FPS target

[reef tundra]

That is pretty nice, but not as smooth as my 144 hz panels. waits for the 240 hz, to flex and the >240 hz to flex on them

[wheat plume]

why tf

would you need more than 144Hz?

[ashen spindle]

why would you stop at 144

[reef tundra]

Science has not gone far enough, indeed

More hertz mean more epic gamer moments

[ashen spindle]

that wasn't a joke reply, why would you stop at 144?

[reef tundra]

Cost

[wheat plume]

more hertz means I get to see myself dying in multiplayer games as soon as I spawn in higher fps!

[reef tundra]

more hertz means you get to see your death in more frames. So you can slow it down and really see the moment you died.

[wheat plume]

exactly

[ashen spindle]

serious question, why would you not want more than 144?

[reef tundra]

Because it is expensive and with my self-control i wont be able to eat the next month

I mean.. I got enough fat to burn..

Will be very underweight though, and im eating poortly already

[wheat plume]

I need to lose belly fat

[reef tundra]

But if i go full soviet and get potatoes, carrots and unions i will be able to feed myself for the month for 40 euros

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

that higher refresh sounds pretty entising

[ashen spindle]

@digital cliff honestly, yeah I definitely agree with you, your "diagnose" has to be right in some degree

[thick elk]

I am still waiting for the day I can run my games at 4k 1khz.

[reef tundra]

24k or nothin