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zenith sonnet
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@fickle ore You need to work on timings one at a time

zenith sonnet
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Also, same question again:
Why the fuck does my VII only draw 140W in CP running full throttle?

crisp granite
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radeon VII

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what?

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don't those things run hot and spicy?

zenith sonnet
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I'm getting the FPS you'd expect from a 5700 XT according to benchmarks. Roughly 60 FPS on a med/high 1440p..

zenith sonnet
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Power draw in Witcher 3 is like 220-240W, but that's not really excessive either

reef patrol
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What does afterburner say?

crisp granite
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what?

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that thing sucks juice with gusto

zenith sonnet
reef patrol
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What is the GPU at?

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percentage wise

zenith sonnet
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99% flat, 1770 MHz

reef patrol
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Odd.

zenith sonnet
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My wive's does the same, but hers is not undervolted (because it reset), so it draws 190W peak

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Still MUCH less than in any other game

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This is what it looks like

crisp granite
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look at that card, we haven't seen a cooler like this since the GTX 480

reef patrol
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No thanks.

ashen spindle
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smh, reposters

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:p

reef patrol
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Chinese clone brand. Better than nothing - Can't promise they're good 😄

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Especially at that price.

pale sigil
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@reef patrol what do you suggest

reef patrol
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Uhh... something from Coolermaster maybe.

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Not too pricy

pale sigil
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fuck that

old marlin
reef patrol
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Something without RGB xD

old marlin
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if you want cheap fans then don't get RGB ones

pale sigil
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dont wanna fuckin sell me kidneys

old marlin
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then you can get somewhat decent fans for 3 euros a piece

pale sigil
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no one is suggesting me actual fans

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just slagging off the ones i bring up

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lol

old marlin
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ok what pricepoint what features?

pale sigil
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i refuse to pay 20-30 quid a fan

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I just want either white led fans, 5x, accessible.

old marlin
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aka cooler master?

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rgb

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13 pounds

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oh hey

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10 pounds for one

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uses 4 pin rgb shit

pale sigil
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50 quid

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...

old marlin
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yea idk

pale sigil
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with no hub

old marlin
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yea

pale sigil
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oh

old marlin
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want them for free or what?

pale sigil
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i should have mentioned

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its the rings

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type of style

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i want

old marlin
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ring lighted ones just are more expensive to produce

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especially if you don't want the fan to suffer from it in other ways

pale sigil
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just a head sup

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case fans

old marlin
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yea

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so what?

pale sigil
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just making sure

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haa

old marlin
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they still matter

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actual difference between a rad and case fan is not THAT huge

pale sigil
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what about uphere

old marlin
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?

old marlin
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idk

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some random rebranded OEM stuff

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prob pretty damn bad as fans

pale sigil
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i mean

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my friend uses them

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and his temps are 30c

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in the case

old marlin
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that means absolutely nothing

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especially since that is idle temp

old marlin
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they all do

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guess what

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buying cheap fans results in buying fans that look cheap

pale sigil
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such a scam

old marlin
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it really isn't

reef patrol
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Oh you sweet innocent child, Callum.

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I have 9 QL fans.

misty pier
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it's like the mercedes of fans

pale sigil
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gz

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you spent a lot of shit on overpriced fans

misty pier
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it's for a e s t h e t i c s my dude

ivory geyser
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Gotta keep that economy going somehow in Covid-times ya know.

misty pier
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no price is too high for aesthetics :p

old marlin
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They are not overpriced

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They cost quite a lot to develop and produce

pale sigil
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ok then

old marlin
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And are a halo product

pale sigil
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overrated

old marlin
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So they gotta have a decent margin

reef patrol
misty pier
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but yeah, pay the rgb tax

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or just stick with some reg old fans and put some rgb stuff over them

ivory geyser
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Ofc they are overpriced, just like a lot of mech keyboards out there lul

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looks at Corsair for 140$ with Viola switches

old marlin
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cause making rgb is free

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K60 is development costs that get shifted

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makes it overpriced

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but corsair still has minimal margins

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In general corsair margins on keebs are slim

ashen spindle
reef patrol
pale sigil
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hey

misty pier
ashen spindle
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whos pot and whos the kettle

pale sigil
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whats overpriced

ashen spindle
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you are paying 160 for what you can get for 50

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you pay more so you see "uh fancy, white"

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it's the same as spending more on good fans that also have decent rgb stuff

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im not

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but he can't call out others for the same things :p

pale sigil
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wot

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how the fuck

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do you work that out

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160 quid for something you can get for 50?!?!?!?!?

ashen spindle
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think thats what a U12S costs in punds roughly

misty pier
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and add another 20 pounds on top for a heatsink cover in white

pale sigil
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no?

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the ugly version yes

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black version no

old marlin
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yea remove rgb and you can get actually decent fans for 3 euros

pale sigil
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pplus only a single fan

ashen spindle
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yes, so it's the cost of what is more than enough vs extra cost to be better than needed+prefered color, same thing as going for expensive fans :p

pale sigil
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No, i wont because i did research and the cooler is not shit, so fuck you.

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its a good cooler, quiet and meets my theme with no compromise.

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i love noctua but fuck their design.

ashen spindle
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rooHuh nobody said your choice of cooler is shit

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I'm calling it overkill

pale sigil
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ofc its an overkill but there is nothing else on the market that meets my needs nor similar.

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U12 is ugly af

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and isn't as good

ashen spindle
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yes, so it's the same as paying more for good working and good looking case fans?

old marlin
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you could have gotten a cheaper similar noisy and as durable product

pale sigil
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No Quin

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i would have had to pay 22 for an extra fan

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and 25 for the white case

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for the u12

old marlin
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cause noisier fans that die in 2 years are as good as better looking fans with more expensive components and a warranty that lasts a few times longer are as good

pale sigil
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So what, im saving 9 quid for the sake of getting a cooler that performs less and still looks overall meh

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if you can give me benchmarks showing how significally better corsair ique fans are

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ill shut up

ashen spindle
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look I don't care one bit how much spent or saved or whatever

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I'm merely making fun of you then saying mansen got scammed basically lol

pale sigil
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i never said he got scammed

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i said he wasted money

reef patrol
pale sigil
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difference

old marlin
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nobody benches random 4 pound fans

pale sigil
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4 quid?...

ashen spindle
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@reef patrol I'll need you to give me some of that popcorn you probably got by now

old marlin
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5 for 20

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aka 1 for 4

pale sigil
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5 for 20?

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lol?

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its 41 quid

old marlin
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even then

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random chinese OEM product

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who tf tests those

pale sigil
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oh right so you can confirm they are oem?

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where is this price?

old marlin
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on the amazon link you sent

ashen spindle
old marlin
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no branding on the fan

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random brand

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100% OEM

pale sigil
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lad

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i didn't sent ones that cost 21 quid

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at least not a 5 pack

old marlin
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the EZDIY one cost 21 for me

pale sigil
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link?

pale sigil
old marlin
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lol

pale sigil
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show me the page

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lol

ashen spindle
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brexit tax KEKWDisco

pale sigil
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im actually curious

old marlin
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ah wait

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error on my part

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says 21

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but with some weird amazon mastercard shit

pale sigil
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you pleb

old marlin
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still

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random OEM fan

pale sigil
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proof?

old marlin
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only found 20 random variations

pale sigil
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can you link me the oem fans?

old marlin
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just looking for ones with EXACTLY that pattern

pale sigil
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i feel like yall are just being elitists and downing something more than it deserves.

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i dont think they are high end

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but i also dont think they are going to be garbage

old marlin
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that is not elitist

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I just only had bad experiences with cheap fans

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if you want noisy fans that die within 3 years sure go on

reef patrol
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I don't know a thing about their rated air pressure. Or how the RGB looks.

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That makes me not want to buy 😄

pale sigil
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well they aren't noisy

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i can confirm that

old marlin
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they will be noisy when they start rattling dogeKek

pale sigil
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my friends are fine...

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heard them in person

ashen spindle
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or they might be lucky samples bc who knows how tight QA is with no-name brands

old marlin
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most just have bad bearings in a year or two

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and then start getting more and more noisy

ashen spindle
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they are not going to explode in your face, but also nobody can really tell you how they perform, and if the work once warranty is over

pale sigil
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ive always used cheapish fans

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around 6 quid fans

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my entire life

old marlin
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thing is

pale sigil
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never had issues ever

old marlin
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if you ditch rgb

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you can get cheap fans that are good

pale sigil
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well

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i told you

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if you can find me white led fans

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ill take them too

old marlin
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get white led strips

pale sigil
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i dont want led strips

old marlin
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and get arctic P12 fans

sick creek
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Just get 38mm thick deltas

pale sigil
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WHITE

sick creek
pale sigil
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LED

misty pier
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just buy strips or something smfh

old marlin
pale sigil
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to much

old marlin
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they cost the same as the RGB variant OMEGALUL

pale sigil
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noo

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Rings

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sigh

old marlin
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sigh

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why does nobody make good fans and just gives them away for manufacturing price

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here

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fractal rebranded OEM shit

vagrant marsh
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Wtf

old marlin
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those will at least be tested to some degree by fractal

vagrant marsh
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Why in pounds?

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Yer dutch

old marlin
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but muh over 50 pounds

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callum is not

vagrant marsh
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Ahh

old marlin
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so I am looking at british shit

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I ain't dutch btw

vagrant marsh
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But alternate aint in britain is it?

old marlin
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still german

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alternate is german

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that is .co.uk though

vagrant marsh
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No, ita dutch

old marlin
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dude

vagrant marsh
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No

old marlin
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alternate HQ is 10km from me

vagrant marsh
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F u. Alternate ia dutch

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They atarted in the netherlands

old marlin
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no?

vagrant marsh
old marlin
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En dat is niet voor niets. Vanaf de oprichting van het bedrijf in 1992 in het Duitse Linden zit IT-hardware in ons DNA.

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Linden Germany

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sounds like germany to me

vagrant marsh
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I was sure they were dutch 😫

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But they are krauts

pale sigil
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ill admit

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i lost my shit a little but you all tend to just instantly shit on things fast, i do it too.

old marlin
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bad electromotors just tend to fail quick

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which is why I recommend not getting random shit for fans

pale sigil
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Ite

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ill consider your suggestions

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what type of none rgb fans

vagrant marsh
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Cant you refer a tech channel? Alot of youtubers test case fans.

ashen spindle
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you didn't read what was already said about it, did you?

pale sigil
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i really wanted to go this route

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😦

old marlin
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why are arctic fans so expensive in uk wtf

misty pier
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I wanted to try out arctic fans

pale sigil
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artic is literally scarece here atm

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afaik

misty pier
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most of their fans are pretty affordable

old marlin
old marlin
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price hike dansgame

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but ye

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arctic is pgood

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also OEM btw dogeKek

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but they test them quite well

misty pier
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yeah I don't want to bother with getting rgb fans for my next build

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mess to wire, these are cheap and fit the bill fine :p

vagrant marsh
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Artic should be really good yea. Back in the day when they made gpu coolers thry gave life long warrenty.

misty pier
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guess they really stand by their product then

old marlin
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eh

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well at least inhouse deisgned

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I know that much

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otheriwse prob R&D costs

pale sigil
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look awful too

old marlin
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they look better than what you sent in

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oh also adressable RGB

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makes it quite a bit more expensive

pale sigil
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the ones i sent are addressable

old marlin
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yea bit these have good LEDs

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and good motors

pale sigil
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i mean

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they look like cheap shit

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haha

old marlin
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and well tested impellers

old marlin
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different model btw

pale sigil
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look like fans you get from a dogy computer store

old marlin
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and you show it in the absolutely worst case scenario

pale sigil
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ugh

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horrible

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watching a video rn

old marlin
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hub illumination

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it always looks like this

pale sigil
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i just want rings 😦

old marlin
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or worse

pale sigil
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i dont want blackpool rights (uk saying for light show)

old marlin
pale sigil
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ugh

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they are bright af but i really want rings

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lol

old marlin
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idk

young pecan
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Corsair ML series all the way.

old marlin
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really glad I grew out of RGB

young pecan
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They suffer a shit all chance of death.

old marlin
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meh

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MLs are good

pale sigil
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i dont want rgb

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i just want white hahaha

old marlin
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don't like corsair personally

young pecan
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ML premiums, the steel grey ones.

pale sigil
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i hate corsair

young pecan
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Fuck, those are delicious.

old marlin
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they still have the best USB fan controller OMEGALUL

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and theirs isn't even that good

young pecan
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Who the hell uses a fan controller?!

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Fan hubs let the BIOS do that...

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Controllers are entirely different things.

old marlin
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I don't wanna set it in BIOS though

young pecan
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...

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It reads case temps and adjusts automatically.

old marlin
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it reads CPU temps

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and CPU temps only

young pecan
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No, case temps if you get something not trash.

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Decent mobo supports sensors, put one in the intake zone, one in the output.

old marlin
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well yea

young pecan
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EVGA made a habit of that a while ago.

old marlin
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gotta route sensors somewhere

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wowee

young pecan
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So did Asus and MSI semi recently.

old marlin
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still can't control it via GPU though?

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cause you know

young pecan
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What’s the point of controlling it via GPU?

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That would be nonsensical.

old marlin
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THE most heat producing component doesn't need to get taken into consideration?

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doing it passively via output heat is enough

young pecan
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GPU fans and direct cooling get controlled by GPU, not case fans. They exist to shift air through the system.

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If GPU needs cooling I’d hope the inbuilt fans spin up.

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:/

old marlin
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instead ofregulating all case fans up a bit higher?

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and by that increase sound less?

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ah yes

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makes sense

young pecan
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Defo no.

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That’s really not a smart move.

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Better to set case fans at their max for quiet use and have something that isn’t an inWin 801 so you get decent airflow.

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So long as the airflow is good the GPU fan is going to be the bottleneck.

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Not the case flow.

vagrant marsh
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man, my cam app sucks balls

young pecan
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Most do.

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But yeah, CFM case isn’t gonna be the limiting factor there.

vagrant marsh
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yea, but this one it shows nice on the screen, but tehn it takes a picture and the picture is way too dark somehow

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i think doing a screen capture is better than letting the app take the picture lol

young pecan
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App correcting itself.

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Overcorrecting.

pale sigil
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tbh

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im impressed with my case temps

young pecan
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My open loop which runs an overclocked 1080Ti and 6700K and motherboard VRM set sits at 70c isn’t bad.

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That’s damn good if you know how hot VRMs get.

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Someone make cooler VRMs, pls. ._.

pale sigil
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i was considering a 360 rad

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on the front

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butthat is a true true overkill

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lol

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whats the best way to see vrm temps

umbral knot
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fingers

pale sigil
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lol

ashen spindle
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hwinfo if your board has sensors tehre

pale sigil
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thought so

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forgot to download it after os wipe

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noice, gpu at 32c

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which is an improvment vs my last case for sure

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xd

old marlin
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means absolutely nothing at idle

pale sigil
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mobo is 30c

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and i aint idle

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Usuallu get 45 with d2 5% fans

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christ

vagrant marsh
pale sigil
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turned my stock cooler down

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everything is silent

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👀

vagrant marsh
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if only i could turn that rtx AMD red

young pecan
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Remember when GN did a VRM torture test and they got to 150c and didn’t die?

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VRMs stronk.

vagrant marsh
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i guess it would shorten its lifespan tho

young pecan
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Pff.

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A good VRM is rated for 180c use.

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Way overkill for any motherboard.

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You would not believe how damn sturdy some of them are.

vagrant marsh
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i dont wanna test it out tho 😛

young pecan
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:P

zenith sonnet
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The issues with hot VRMs is them heating up the board and other components
And I guess they lose efficiency

young pecan
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Well sure, but they’ll survive ridiculous conditions.

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May as well overengineer something to the point that almost nobody actually kills them off from reasonable causes.

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When was the last time you saw a dead VRM set on a motherboard?

old marlin
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chances are within the last few months

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I saw a lot of dead mobos

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almost all 1151

young pecan
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What actually dies about em, tho?

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Usually it’s the FETs.

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Or caps.

old marlin
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wasn't caps

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or well

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I doubt it is caps

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half of them died because some idiot used terrible PSUs

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cause buying shit redundant PSUs must be better than one good ATX PSU for half the price

young pecan
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“ThE mAN sAiD 300 waTtS iS fInE”

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That annoys me so much.

old marlin
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nah

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like 150 euro redundant PSUs

young pecan
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Or the super sketchy shit from Ali Express.

old marlin
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but the manufacturer didn't even bother to get an 80+ rating

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worst part is

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all bought from an SI

young pecan
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sigh

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Why can’t people just stay with primary brands?

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Or Great Wall.

old marlin
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idfk

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best one I have seen is a SPC PSU

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doesn't even have a box

young pecan
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EVGA and SilverStone both make great PSUs at great prices.

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Why the hell do people go for this sketchy shit?

old marlin
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is just the PSU shrinkwrapped and then a power cord taped to it with packing tape

young pecan
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Bruh.

old marlin
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done

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all it needs for packaging

young pecan
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Bruh.

old marlin
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idk

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apparently it is hard to get a decent PSU

young pecan
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Mental pain.

old marlin
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AH WAIT

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THEY WERE NOT 150 EUROS

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A REPALCEMENT HALF WAS

young pecan
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Jesus fuck.

old marlin
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those fuckers die in 3 months

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we have the cleanest power here you can get

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even filtering with a USB does next to nothing anymore

pale sigil
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3 pin is for case fans mainly right

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and 4 is for bigger stuff

young pecan
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3 pin is for constant power fans, 4 pin is for PWM. Best use 4 pin forever if possible.

pale sigil
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i see

misty pier
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yeah pwm is handy

pale sigil
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a 3 way fan splitter wont have any issues right

young pecan
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Depends on your splitter and config.

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Most of the time no, but if you use high power fans then you’ll have issues.

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Check the max output voltage of a fan header for your motherboard and check the fans.

pale sigil
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1600 rpm

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3x

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4 pin

young pecan
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Can voltage isn’t so easy as 1600 rpm.

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But it should be alright.

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3k rpm is when that’d get dicey.

pale sigil
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also @young pecan

young pecan
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Yeah, lul.

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You gud.

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Just don’t run any stupid powerful server fans and you’re fine.

pale sigil
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haha

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i dont like losing my hearing

young pecan
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Lmao

vast moss
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I'm probably going to be getting an RX 6800 soon, and combined with a Ryzen 5 3600 and 32GB RAM, I don't think my 550W PSU would be enough, or is it? If not, what wattage should I look at for an upgrade?

ashen spindle
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nah thats enough

vast moss
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All right then

young pecan
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@vast moss Are you going to overclock and what efficiency is it?

vast moss
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I have my CPU OCed to 3950MHz through auto-OC, thinking of pushing it up to 4000 as it's right there and a nice number.
GPU I haven't done so, and I'm not sure if I would. I posit that with a 550W I wouldn't get away with it.
As for the efficiency, 80+ Bronze (Corsair CX550M)

young pecan
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I’d upgrade the PSU.

ashen spindle
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350W are the worst case spikes for a 6800, so you got quite some room for the rest there to reach 550 total

young pecan
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Rule is to always overkill the PSU. I use maybe 400 watts, but I have a 1000 watt Platinum PSU, it’ll outlive everything else.

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Never, NEVER risk a potential PSU death.

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It can and will take components with it, and spending an extra 100 for that safety is worth it.

ashen spindle
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yeah thats true. 550 is still enough if you dont go crazy with oc

young pecan
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^

vast moss
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I see. I was thinking that if I do, I'd go up to 650 or even 750, but I'm seeing conflicting statements here, so idk

young pecan
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Go 750 at high efficiency.

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Platinum if you can manage it.

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Higher grade components, less chance at death.

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Preferably either EVGA or SilverStone.

ashen spindle
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most psu dont even care about the 5ms spikes so even 350 is a safe approach

young pecan
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Not wrong.

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But again, never worth the risk when the prevention is so cheap.

ashen spindle
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yes but also no point in paying 200 more for no reason

young pecan
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Had a buddy lose a 3080 recently to an old PSU.

ashen spindle
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then the issue is the psu not the total watt its specced for

young pecan
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Wattage was fine, the PSU didn’t like the draw and was a little too old and simply kicked the bucket.

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Dead PSU, damaged motherboard.

ashen spindle
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I would've gone for 550w with my 6800 and 5600x but it was sold out so I went 650

young pecan
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Had another buddy with a new PSU barely within spec, it died to a fault and killed the RAM slots on the board and one stick.

vast moss
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I've had this PSU for only about 6 months now, put it into the initial build

young pecan
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Sounds right.

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Corsair is usually pretty good with their stuff.

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Well, Great Wall is, Corsair just renames them.

vast moss
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I see

pale sigil
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i dont understand why sharpness is a thing

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on tvs

vast moss
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I don't really see a difference myself when I adjust it. Or maybe I'm not looking hard enough

young pecan
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Because quality is expensive, crank AA.

crimson wigeon
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Because normies see it and think "OH LOOK I SEE MORE DETAILS SO IT MUST BE BETTER!"

young pecan
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Lmao

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Download an MP3 off YouTube and change the file extension to .wav

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Feel the suffering.

pale sigil
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Im guessing the 3 way fan spliters are 4 pin to 3 pin down to power draw?

reef patrol
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I wouldn't try 4 though. That can cause issues with thirsty fans.

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I use 3x3 splitters on my board for fan power.

pale sigil
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u wot

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daisy chain?

reef patrol
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Three headers, with a 1 to 3 splitter on each. For a total of 9 fans.

pale sigil
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i dont need 9 fans tho

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haha

reef patrol
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No no. xD

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Just saying I've used three way splitters without any issues on thirsty RGB fans 😄

pale sigil
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@reef patrol my question was more its 4 pin to 3x3 pins

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is that fine

reef patrol
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Eh?

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Oh your fans are 3 pin'ed

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Sure. Just remember to change that header to DC instead of PWM.

young pecan
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F

pale sigil
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No my fans are 4 pin

reef patrol
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o_o

pale sigil
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I'm trying to say

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The splitters in finding

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I'm

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Are 4 pin to 3x3pin

reef patrol
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Isn't one of the three a 4pin?

reef patrol
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Yep.

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As long as one of the three is a 4pin.

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Which that one is.

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The fourth pin is the PWM signal. Which lets the fans ramp up and down more smoothly than 3pin DC.

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They use curves instead of "GO TO 30% NOW"

pale sigil
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Ohhh @reef patrol 2 of the are 3 pin and 1 is 4 pin

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Ig

reef patrol
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Yep that's the normal one. 🙂

pale sigil
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thats confusing

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so because of that 1 4 pin all are synced?

reef patrol
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Yep.

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The first fan uses PWM and the splitter assumes all fans are the same.

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If you used three different fans, one or two might sound odd, since the readout isn't right.

reef tundra
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If I remember right those four wire fans are for the power(usually 5 or 12 volt), gnd, feedback rpm signal(actual spinrate) and the enable line(which allows for control of rpm, using pwm).

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Three pin fans usually miss the enable line, so the only way to control the rpm is by cutting its power supply

crimson wigeon
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Which to me seems like it should allow for just as smooth fan control, although I suppose dynamically adjusting output voltage is a bit trickier than a simple pulse (?)

reef tundra
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Yes, Pulse width modulation(PWM) pretty much changes the average(thus precieved) voltage by adjusting its dutycylce(on-time) during a cycle(with some set frequency).

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so to give the fan 60% of the maximum power, the dutycycle goes around 60%. (could be higher for realworld; eg most fans cant spin at 20% dutycycle without a kickstart.)

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For the end user it will be compensated. at least should be

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If remember correctly regulated power supplies also apply this to function

edgy hull
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Also PWM has less issues trying to spin a fan at very low RPMs vs voltage control

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iirc at least

reef patrol
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Yep.

fickle ore
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@zenith sonnet hey did you check your allcore frequency on p95?

shadow minnow
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Reminds me of when I was programming arduino to control fan rpm. Was quite a lot of fun.

ashen spindle
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huh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEP8iVVQR-g first time I fully watched a video from them, surprisingly usefull data

The AMD Ryzen 5000 series might facing availability shortages but that's bound to change soon. In this Ryzen memory buying guide for beginners we cover memory performance for dual rank vs single rank, the best speed and how to buy with memory latency in mind along with plenty of RAM benchmarks to help through the process. All of this should le...

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vagrant marsh
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hmm. i can buy an inno3d rtx 3070

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but would that be much of an upgrade over the 2070?

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i wanna make sure the graphics card i choose is gonna be able to reliably run the 5120x1440 resolution this screen natively has. so i think i should stick with getting a 3080 or a 6900xt atleast

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ofcourse, for 2000 bucks i can get a 3090 from zotac lul

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this webstore says they got 36 of those in store

vagrant marsh
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still. a 3090 with a 5800x. would 750W be enough for that

thick elk
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I respect the work they did in that video. While there is certainly room to be more specific. I think it's a good balance between being understandable and accurate.

vagrant marsh
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i think i'l be fine

ashen spindle
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yeah I wasn't expecting a absolute in depth explanation of all RAM timings anyway, but for what seems to be a more "normie" tech channel with unboxings etc. that was done quite well

crimson wigeon
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Great, some git shuffled the channels again

pale sigil
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Idk what you’re on about

pale sigil
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Today is gonna be fun

wheat plume
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Ooooo

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Jelly af

thick elk
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Have fun building

reef patrol
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Synthwave themed Visual Studio theme.

cursive summit
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Looks disgusting

pale sigil
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why

cursive summit
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Rose gold looks weird on a keeb

old marlin
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that is not rose gold

pale sigil
cursive summit
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That's not half bad then

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What keeb even is that?

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My girl would love that

pale sigil
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Akko 3088 world tour

cursive summit
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Wireless?

pale sigil
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It has wireless yes

cursive summit
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Interesting

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Mechanical?

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How are the switches

pale sigil
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Cherry mx blue

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Not my desired switches but cba changing them

cursive summit
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Does it feel good to type/play?

pale sigil
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Typing yes, playing is a bit weird but you get used to it, I’ve never been the biggest fan of cherry blues tho

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Just that’s all that was left

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😄

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I would have preferred geteron green

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Funny looking "clear" combs

misty pier
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I mean if you’re getting a keeb for your SO, get something like tactile or linear so you don’t get annoyed 🤔

misty saffron
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got a new aio

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its cool beans

misty pier
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what did you get?

misty saffron
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lemme take a pic

pale sigil
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Kinda annoyed

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I have to pay £4 for delivery

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If I wanna replace em

misty pier
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🤔

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just stick with it ig

thick elk
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Most decent companies if it's their fault will just send you a replacement.
It's not like they are worth much.

pale sigil
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They sent me the wrong ones

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Sent me 6 not 8 :(

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Ruined

thick elk
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Just write a negative review about the store, that may change things.
Some stores are pretty active going after those.

pale sigil
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Literally ruined :(

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Don't have enough Joe

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Now

misty pier
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🤔

pale sigil
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They were supposed to clip together too :(

misty pier
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use the other ones and route it under the gpu-

pale sigil
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Send me the wrong ones

misty pier
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ohhhhh no

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those look pretty flimsy too

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not like the thick chunky ones I have, except they’re in black and not clear

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but tbh black looks nice for a cable comb

pale sigil
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To small

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Ffs

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So annoyed

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Hmm

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I could glue them together

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Should have got more than one of these

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Feel stupid man

misty pier
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could’ve gotten a 24 pin one yeah

pale sigil
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I didn't think

zenith sonnet
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@pale sigil FIX CHANNEL ORDER

pale sigil
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I fixed it

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Might just grt these idk

zenith sonnet
pale sigil
vagrant marsh
# pale sigil

that looks like you coiled a very long cable around a pipe lol

pale sigil
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Ooft

misty pier
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rad

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i wonder how you are able to tell if its dusty or not since its silver

reef patrol
pale sigil
fickle ore
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@zenith sonnet Did you? I'm getting only 4.1 ghz on p95 but im on stock with pbo disabled atm

pale sigil
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@ashen spindle

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Removed the stock cooler they used

fickle ore
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what u doing?

ashen spindle
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whats that supposed to show

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spread looks fine?

pale sigil
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That the stock cooler is garbage

fickle ore
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Looks like too little cum on the chip

vagrant marsh
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@reef patrol not sure how that works in other countries. they all got their own rules. i had to explain Creative they had to pay for me sending the product back. took a while, but they eventually did

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usually something breaks before i am able to send it back 😛

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right now, my current set of creative earphones, the left earbud died on me, sadly. its inside warrenty, but i dont think they cover damage by use 😛 and i used it alot.

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at first it was hardly noticable. but stereo sound became more and more mono. only the right earbud was still at full volume. the left one at half volume. so i desided to clean it. then it stopped working. waterproof my ass.

reef patrol
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And till New Years the Ook Ooks are still part of that 😛

vagrant marsh
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oh right, i keep forgetting there is a EU law set up. however, not everyone follows it

reef patrol
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After that they can do whatever the hell 😄

vagrant marsh
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yea, those white cables look a little overdone

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not my style at all

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and its sad to see that is the future of gaming pc asthethics. i like the rear power connector of my 2070

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just 1 cable on the rear

young pecan
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Honestly, I’d like a motherboard rework by one of the major devs.

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More power enabled through the PCI-E slot.

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No cable.

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It won’t happen, but the thought of a perfectly clean system is fun.

vagrant marsh
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@young pecan why ive chosen to go all m.2. no mess with cables

young pecan
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nods

pale sigil
misty pier
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wish mines can be that cold

fickle ore
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@ashen spindle btw 3 sticks is a bad idea. makes it single channel. Went from 350+ fps to 250fps in OW

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also my games are crashing a lot on 2 sticks, fixed it by turning off c-states

ashen spindle
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how is c states and ram connected gloryT

fickle ore
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Yep..

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Anyway Disabling C-states fixed my games crashing

zenith sonnet
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@fickle ore P95 v29.8 small FFT preset I get 2.85GHz hitting 100% TDC

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Or 88W CPU power

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🤔

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in CB I get 3.76GHz all-core at 100% TDC

fickle ore
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@zenith sonnet hmmh small FFT newest p95 I get 4.1 ghz over 8 cores

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@zenith sonnet 4.5ghz all core CB20

zenith sonnet
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It's a bad comparison. Your CPU has the same power limit for half the cores

fickle ore
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yepp

zenith sonnet
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I could only disable CCD2 to get a similar effect

fickle ore
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just wondered tbh

zenith sonnet
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Or PBO with double power limits

pale sigil
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51c under stress

fickle ore
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Because I wanted to see if I should hit higher, but that confirms it, ty

pale sigil
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this is so nice

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haha

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fans are so quiet....

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and temps low

zenith sonnet
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I think I get 4.65 GHz all-core with unlimited power

fickle ore
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Yeah 5950x got better bin

zenith sonnet
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It does

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Small FFT 1 thread

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4.725 GHz, 48W CPU power, 81°C

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Second test was 57W

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Third 49W

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That's stock, PBO disabled

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I kinda surprised the CPU deems it save to pump 1.43V through a fully loaded core at 80 degrees

fickle ore
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probably low current scenario

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not sure

zenith sonnet
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40 amps

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35-40

fickle ore
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yeah the default is 140a

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100%

zenith sonnet
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Yeah, but all-core

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This is through a single core

fickle ore
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if it blows it blows, rma 😄

zenith sonnet
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Tru

fickle ore
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3 year warranty in EU

zenith sonnet
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But damn, this thing is a beast

fickle ore
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YEPP

zenith sonnet
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4.85GHz at 63°C in R23

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46W again

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1.475V

ashen spindle
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korean edition has extra keycap legends, cheaper to get rid of the stock

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aka if you dont mind the koren characters, it's a better deal to get

ashen spindle
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hmm, think I might return the new monitor

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looks great, 144 over 100hz is nice, contrast is much better

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but the dark smearing compared to the clear ips I had before is a bit more than I expected

thick elk
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The more you know.

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Never tried a va for gaming myself. Was tempted at some point instead of the two ips panels I got, however it was also curved and I don't think I would like that on my second and third screen.

ashen spindle
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the contrast is great, so I'd say it depends on what you want, and how much you are willing to spend

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I think similar specs with ips would be 50% higher price

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it's a bit more curved than my previous one, which is weird for regular useage, but really liked it in-game

umbral knot
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I don't notice much of a difference between my flat ones and my 1500r curved

ashen spindle
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from what I got, smearing is better on newer generation va panels, but those aren't as cheap yet

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the fact I could sell my old one for basically the price of this new one makes it still a really good offer, if you don't already have a good monitor imo

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like, I'd still recommend this for what it does at this price point, just as I need to use it as gaming and home office screen, doesn't quite fit the entire bill for me sadly

pale sigil
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im so impressed haha

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vs my h100i this cooler is insane

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right now fans are on 1%, all case fans off and my cpu is at 40c

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and gpu 28c

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absolute silence

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living the dream

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even during load

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it was insanely good

umbral knot
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what cooler?

pale sigil
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lian li galahad 24-

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my case fans are literally off because it doesn't need them

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all my gaming per went up @ashen spindle even though you said my temps weren't the issue

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fite me

ashen spindle
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your gaming what?

pale sigil
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peformance

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sorry

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*game

ashen spindle
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of what, where

pale sigil
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every single game i gained like 15+ fps

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cyberpunk is a lot smoother too

ashen spindle
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Hmm you are playing at qhd yes? I don't see how that can have done so much

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are you sure it didn't get a patch?

merry granite
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@modest adder are y’all ever going to make a 60%

pale sigil
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on about different games

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d2, cp77 and horizon

ashen spindle
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how much higher is your frequency then?

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4.5 vs 5.1 ghz now or what

pale sigil
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it was default then and default now

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it would boost before just like it does now

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but temps were 85c+

ashen spindle
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so you are trying to tell me

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5ghz at 40C are more performance than 5ghz at 70c

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wat

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no chance

pale sigil
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5ghz

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wot

ashen spindle
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or whatever you are hitting

pale sigil
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well

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its all i can eliminate

ashen spindle
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you just said it boosts the same

pale sigil
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no i mean its the only change made

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the temps

ashen spindle
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yes, I am asking how much higher your frequency is now

pale sigil
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oh, its at 3.7

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both were

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now and before

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sorry

ashen spindle
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??

pale sigil
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i mean 4.7

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oops

ashen spindle
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ok either you are on crack placebo or bullshitting me

fickle ore
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maybe u had like 500mhz less before, but 15 fps is big unless in the hundreds

pale sigil
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possibly

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it could have ran less in general and i didn't notice

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but that was down to thermal if it idid....

ashen spindle
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shouldn't have been as you were not hitting any thermal point where it should boost lower than stock and you aint getting 15fps from just cooling it slightly better, if you were not running at limits before

modest adder
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@merry granite we are exploring some different options. We have something cool in the pipeline ( still far away).
But maybe we can offer something that will bridge this period. I know I know I’m a bit mystic about the topic :p

zenith sonnet
vagrant marsh
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i really think we need to start seeing phones as tiny pc's. we need custom cases for phones

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ROYAL GLOD

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GLOD

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glod

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wtf...

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u peeps also see that?

wheat plume
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Xd

young pecan
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Damn that is one butt ugly phone case.

cursive summit
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GLOD

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"Honey we been dating for years. I think it's finally time.."
"omgerd omg omg you finally gonna propose??"
"No. I bought you the GLOD"

misty saffron
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can somebody please recommend a good mouse i can buy in any offline retail chain

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the scroll wheel on mine went to shit

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preferably something that's good for big hands

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wireless would be nice

cursive summit
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Viper Ultimate?

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That's a good mouse

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For big hands though, Viper's on a smaller side

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My Basilisk X is really damn comfortable

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Bigger mouse, has a finger rest that at first I thought was weird, but now it really grew on me

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And I'm 2m tall so you can imagine my palms

misty saffron
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i mean, i’ve been using my somewhat small one for a while so size isn’t really that big of an issue

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not sure if i want to deal with razer ever again though

cursive summit
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Viper's a better choice than a Basilisk, but the price is higher

misty saffron
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price doesn't matter

cursive summit
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Razer's top range offerings are good

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If you don't really want Razer, there's that Glorious brand

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Who did a knockoff Wootility copy

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I heard a few pros use Glorious Model O

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But that one seems also on the smaller side

misty saffron
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definitely don't wanna order it from eu

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easy 2-3 week wait

cursive summit
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You american?

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Oki doki

misty saffron
#

russian

cursive summit
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Ooh russian

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Explains a lot of things

misty saffron
cursive summit
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Nu kak skazat, prosto prikasna

misty saffron
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almost

cursive summit
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Sorry don't have cyrilic locale

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Not that I can even write in cyrilic

misty saffron
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quintosh really do be writing an essay

cursive summit
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Prolly something scientific and quite angry

misty saffron
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i wonder how big razer naga pro is

ashen spindle
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What. I wasn’t even typing anything I was just reading

cursive summit
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Not what Discord was showing lul

misty saffron
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apparently you were

cursive summit
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Yeah the whole time you were typing stuff

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On and off

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Not a great selection of offerings but it does have some of the higher end Steelseries mouses

misty saffron
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never heard of it

cursive summit
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Dunno I don't particularly like Steelseries, but their Rival series isn't bad

misty saffron
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and most popular

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oh

cursive summit
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Again as a Basilisk X owner it's quite great for me

misty saffron
#

they have this weird thing where if you can find something cheaper, they'll give you a better price on it

cursive summit
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That's a common practice in eastern Europe

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Thank mr. Soviet Union

misty saffron
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way to get customer loyalty i guess

cursive summit
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But yeah there's a shit ton of good mouses

misty saffron
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kinda wanna try the shitloads of buttons ones

cursive summit
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Rival 600 I think is good, I like the Basilisk X myself, it's on the big side, really comfortable, Viper Ultimate is a great mouse afaik

misty saffron
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had rival 600

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mouse wheel broke

cursive summit
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Like on my Razer Abyssus

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Good mouse, survived 2 years

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Then middle click stopped working so had to change

misty saffron
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ok thats cool

cursive summit
#

Which one is that?

misty saffron
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naga pro

cursive summit
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I know I know what that is I just can't be bothered with Razer's naming scheme

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Naga's also fine

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Ah yeah I held it in my hands once

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Was on public display

misty saffron
#

how big is it

cursive summit
#

I believe it's on the smaller side too iirc

misty saffron
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like, i can do with a small mouse, but big is obviously more comfy

cursive summit
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It's one of those ambidextrous designs iirc

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And a small one yeah

misty saffron
#

as long as the thumb rests on the buttons i guess

cursive summit
#

For that I'd get the Basilisk

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It's REALLY comfortable

ashen spindle
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Take a look at the Roccat burst pro. Idk if that is a brand that would be in store locally though

cursive summit
#

Roccat is sold here locally

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So RU might follow suite

misty saffron
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not wireless :(

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i kinda have no space for wires on that side of the table

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the wire on current mouse keeps getting stuck

cursive summit
#

Basilisk X Hyperspeed 😄

misty saffron
#

which is, well, not that big of a deal, but would be nice

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ah fuck you

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fine

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i'll buy that

cursive summit
#

Oh right iirc Viper Ultimate is actually wired - wireless

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One of those weird "choose your configuration" mouses

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Which imo is a good thing

misty saffron
#

any hardware customizability is good

cursive summit
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Dunno why that kind of practice isn't more common

misty saffron
#

pic from one of the reviews

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wtf is that io lmao

reef patrol
cursive summit
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That's the USB wireless module

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Like any wireless mouse has

misty saffron
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4 usb 3.0 ports

cursive summit
#

I believe it also does native bluetooth in case you do not want to do that

misty saffron
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no 3.1/3.2

old marlin
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Fml

misty saffron
#

old marlin
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PLEASE use the provided extensiom cables

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Otherwise the wireless goes in fallback modes

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Which suck

cursive summit
old marlin
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Also if you wanna game with it don't use bt

cursive summit
#

Look at what we have here

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Good old girl VGA

misty saffron
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bluetooth connectivity could be nice with my ipad

old marlin
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Look a bit further to the left and it gets worse

cursive summit
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I paired my Basilisk via bluetooth to a laptop

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I just can't remember if I had to plug in the module

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I think I didn't

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Because I had to plug it in anyways to do a software update I remember which pissed me off

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So yeah it has bluetooth built in, no need to plug the module inside

reef patrol
#

Y'all are missing the PHONO jack ports.