🔌│tech

[vagrant marsh]

it is.

[halcyon moss]

well its def not there yet.

[urban lynx]

does anyone have experience with speakers?

[restive gate]

Only the ones you strap to your ears unfortunately

[urban lynx]

damn...

[wheat plume]

:')

I have speakers but I use them mostly on the weekends when im the only one upstairs in the house

[urban lynx]

and probably just simple ones, small, right?

that dont need a whole setup?

[solar hinge]

the strap-ons :p

[solar hinge]

mine are ten years old 😄

[restive gate]

Irrelevant, senheiser headphones haven't improved since 98'

The HD 600s are still mass produced

[crisp granite]

still great

[restive gate]

My point exactly

[vagrant marsh]

still great doesnt mean they shouldnt improve doge :p

[restive gate]

You can have old audio stuff and still have it be better than it has any right to be

That was my point

[pale sigil]

Meh 52c in bios

Stock cooler ftw

[vagrant marsh]

52?

which cpu? the 5600 right?

[crisp granite]

I get 40 with a 3600xt

[vagrant marsh]

52 still sounds a little on the high end, even with the stock cooler

[crisp granite]

damn

[urban lynx]

uh...
they are... considerably cheaper than what i was eyeing up so far...
... and... smaller?

[pale sigil]

5600z

Y

X

[vagrant marsh]

x :p

[urban lynx]

@digital cliff
https://teufel.de/ultima-40-105781000
been looking at these
... initially i wasnt so sure about the looks, and having tower speakers... but...
i'm tempted.

[restive gate]

What's that one brand that LG paired up with for their speakers? M something?

[urban lynx]

yeah.
for watching movies,
listening to my vinyls 🥲

[crisp granite]

vinyls

you sound like my mother

[urban lynx]

what are you trying to say?

[crisp granite]

me mum still listens to vinyls from forever ago

[pale sigil]

everything is so snappy

😄

[crisp granite]

no one else I know does

[urban lynx]

i'd preferably not spend everything i saved up for a motorcycle though

[vagrant marsh]

i got an uncle that still listens to vinyls. i mean, gotta admit, the record player produces crystal clear sound

[crisp granite]

true

[pale sigil]

i didn't reinstall windows

lol

[urban lynx]

i know a streamer collects vinyls with the game soundtracks
one of my coworkers collects vinyls too

you'd be suprised at how many recent albums are also pressed onto vinyl 🥲

[pale sigil]

ite

which is shite and which aint

[crisp granite]

my mum's turntable from the 70's or 80's still sounds crystal clear

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle

[restive gate]

Ight but why

[ashen spindle]

what

[restive gate]

What's wrong with flacs

[urban lynx]

i mean, i also have the benefit of being able to use my moms motorcycle for now

[pale sigil]

whoch is bloat

and which isn't

[vagrant marsh]

wouldnt it be best to just install all drivers?

[urban lynx]

flac is also still digital :p

[ashen spindle]

it'

s drivers, they are rarely bloat

[restive gate]

And this is supposed to be a good/bad thing?

What's wrong with digital

I mean yeah, I just don't know that I'd spend a massive sum of money just to see a disk spin with the music

[crisp granite]

you do

besides

easier to store

[urban lynx]

the fact that speakers are analogue, and your digital music has to get redone into analogue movement, because, you know, soundwaves.
so you basicalyl will always lose some part of the "smoothness"
granted, higher sample rates are near entirely eliminating that, but it's a constant thing

[pale sigil]

thank you uni and college

[urban lynx]

also, with vinyls you satisfy this "collectors" urge.

[pale sigil]

or giving me 5 w10 keys

and 5 w8 keys

and 2 w8.1 keys

😄

no

[vagrant marsh]

nah. windows detected new hardware present, so you sometimes have to reactivate

[restive gate]

Imagine paying for windows

[wheat plume]

ew

Imagine Windows

[vagrant marsh]

ew

[restive gate]

Yeah that

[vagrant marsh]

imagine linux

[wheat plume]

yay

[restive gate]

Woohoo

[urban lynx]

i mean, if you cant get behind vinyls, fair enoug.
just dont blast anyone who actually likes it, or even insult them

[pale sigil]

i retired my 2tb hdd

im gonna regret that

[vagrant marsh]

making your life difficult for urself. get linux 😛

[pale sigil]

it has some games on it and all me downloads

[wheat plume]

why dos youtube music always ask if I want to leave?

[urban lynx]

besides, if you are anti-analogue... why are you on a server for fully analogue keyboards?

[wheat plume]

Youtube Music

[restive gate]

That's different and you know it :p

[wheat plume]

:P

[vagrant marsh]

youtube music. same as youtube premium

?

[wheat plume]

website to play music from youtube on

[pale sigil]

My ram and mobo light up after it shuts down, time to disable that shit

[urban lynx]

isnt that also just doable with the normal youtube page?

[restive gate]

Nah, they removed the premium features now, just YouTube but worse

[wheat plume]

my headphones and sometimes my mouse does too

[pale sigil]

Ye luckily that's auto disabled

[vagrant marsh]

both my mouses keep lights on after i turn off pc

[pale sigil]

Tho tbf I use smart plugs so everything is off when I sleep by the wall

But still

[vagrant marsh]

never bothered much by it tho

[urban lynx]

my mouse still glows after pc is shut down, because the usb port is still powered.
i use it to charge my mouse while not using the computer

[wheat plume]

Clever

[urban lynx]

thank you

I'm a clever girl

[wheat plume]

UwU

[urban lynx]

sometimes

[wheat plume]

yeah.... "sometimes" heavily applies to me

[misty pier]

mine charges when it’s asleep too

[urban lynx]

also light has never really bothered me or prevented me from sleeping

[pale sigil]

@digital cliff yes

they detect me snoring

[wheat plume]

there is faint coil whine when the lights in the ehternet port fade in and out when the PC is shut down

[crisp granite]

lucky

[urban lynx]

i can just perfectly fall asleep while a big guy is streaming, yelling, has lights all over, literally within arms reach from me, because i'm in his bed behind his computer chair.

[wheat plume]

heh?

[crisp granite]

that's your trick?

sleeping in someone else's bed?

ok

lets try that out

[urban lynx]

tbh i felt more comfy at his place than at home 🥲

not really i guess

[crisp granite]

and big in which way?

tall, bulky?

[urban lynx]

big as in, he likes his food 🥲

[vagrant marsh]

size

😆

[urban lynx]

not overly big though

[wheat plume]

I like my food too, food is good

[urban lynx]

but you can see he does enjoy food

LUL

[wheat plume]

although I dont eat much

[vagrant marsh]

maybe you aint eating good food.

[urban lynx]

sometimes i eat so much, people ask me how i am still this small 🥲

[crisp granite]

eat real food

[wheat plume]

my friends ask me that a lot

[crisp granite]

what do you eat?

I eat the standard diet here, which is various asian foods, fish and meat and lots of veggies

great food

I grew very big and..."strong"

just eat good food and exercise regularly

[pale sigil]

really bad temps

[crisp granite]

below throttling

good work

[urban lynx]

you're supposed to check temps?

[crisp granite]

nah

[vagrant marsh]

on idle, right?

[crisp granite]

If you get a BSOD, you've gone too far

it's easy

[pale sigil]

christ

[crisp granite]

OC for dummies

[pale sigil]

yes idle

just launched d2

75c

[misty pier]

use it as a hand warmer

[urban lynx]

oh, i dont do OC i guess 🥲

[vagrant marsh]

did you put that stock cooler on without any thermal paste? 🤣

[crisp granite]

it would have throttled at idle then

[pale sigil]

i didn't put it on

[crisp granite]

don't ask how I know this

[pale sigil]

scan did

lol

[vagrant marsh]

didnt knew the 5600x could run that hot, even with stock cooler

guess its not the best one

[pale sigil]

btw im running my ram at 4000mhz

[crisp granite]

cool

[misty pier]

my cpu ran at 50C idle with a wraith prism

[vagrant marsh]

no, hot 😛

[crisp granite]

ram go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[misty pier]

then again that was before I undervolted my cpu

undervolting dropped -14C from my idle temps

[vagrant marsh]

idle

i think its hitting 70 during stress testing, but only 65 during normal gameplay

[pale sigil]

the fan just doesnt seem to be revving

[vagrant marsh]

you sure you connected it right? or havnt set the profile to silent mode in bios?

[pale sigil]

lad

as i said

i never did

my original plan was to remove what they did and put my own cooler on but i aint done that

also i reset the bios

ill go into the bios and check soon

im fine anyway

ill be getting a new coolers soon

[vagrant marsh]

man. last gen hardware also starts to suffer. the 3600 is getting sold at prices as high as 275 euro now

[pale sigil]

Started a benchmark

Now it's ramping up

[vagrant marsh]

how much?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-machine-rocket-engine-engine-test-gif-15164373

[pale sigil]

Not much more but it's audible

I HVe so much cleaning up to do

[vagrant marsh]

no, how hot XD

[pale sigil]

I've also gotta put my old psu into my old computer

And wire thst all up

XD

Something I noticed and I'm pretty sure I was right

Is how destiny 2 is very cpu dependent

My fps is more stable and consistent now

[vagrant marsh]

i think alot of games get more stable fps with a better cpu

means u hit the cpu bottleneck

[pale sigil]

Before high with render res 90% 1440p 60-100fps

[vagrant marsh]

destiny 2 on its own is not a very demanding game. its quite well optimized

[pale sigil]

Now maxed out all across 80-100

Nah its terrible how haha

Competed to whet it used to be

Ever since they split with Activision the port has been poop

[vagrant marsh]

really? i havnt touched destiny 2 since the moon dlc

but i remember it being a fairly stable game

[pale sigil]

They reworked lighting and since then it's pretty bad

Also, 75c through benchmarking

Not bad

[vagrant marsh]

you can still add 15c of overclocking 😛

[pale sigil]

On the stock cooler 😂

Can fuck off

Haha

I'm glad I don't have potato ram

Finally

Haha I hate this stock cooler

The noise it makes

Is so high pitched

[misty pier]

if ye got cans you won’t even hear them

[crisp granite]

true

literally running the same cooler rn

amd wraith

[misty pier]

I drown out all the noise around me with music

[pale sigil]

I do I do

hmm

my score is a little lower than it should be

[misty pier]

I miss chonky boye

[reef tundra]

I never miss my targets

[pale sigil]

ugh -_- ique

ffs really

pls tell me i dont have ot be running icorsair software for my ram 24/7

[ashen spindle]

[reef tundra]

I wont be able to tell you anything, cant see your system processes

[misty pier]

for rgb?

just turn it on to get your rgb colors then quit out

it should save

[reef patrol]

I still use Chonkies for all of my friend's builds.

Managed to stock up on them back in the day when I worked at a shop. Every time we'd put a third party cooler on we'd just save the stock ones.

[misty pier]

yeah I used them on my friends build in the past

works well and my friend likes the rgb, so win win

[reef patrol]

I use one on my 2200G in my NAS.

So I can keep it dead quiet 😄

It's like 50-60C under load when I watch stuff through it, but it doesn't say a peep.

[misty pier]

yeah with a proper fan curve it’s basically inaudible

[pale sigil]

i think im gonna scrap the custom cables

and put that towards a 2tb nvme

[vagrant marsh]

yea. i didnt buy ssd's due to the hassle of cables. so i went for a 2x2tb nvme instead. it looks way cleaner in ur system as well.

[pale sigil]

atm i have 1nvme

1tb

idealy i want to get a 2tb alongside it

which is why i was motivated to get a new cpu/mobo

i went from a 7700k

[misty pier]

just get drives

[pale sigil]

No

drives in 2020

[vagrant marsh]

yea, 8tb HD XD

[misty pier]

you can always get cables later on

[pale sigil]

i have 8tb in my NAS

i think ive spent like £.1.8k

the gpu really fucked up my budget

only 330 of it being my own cash the rest credit....

got 4 months to pay it off though! not a problem.

selling my old system etc

• bday money/xmas, increase in how much i get monhtly and some work.

[timid chasm]

Soo did ya sell that 5600?

[pale sigil]

ye

[timid chasm]

👎

[pale sigil]

wot

[timid chasm]

Didn't wanna sell it to the 'murican, eh?

[pale sigil]

nah

woul have cost 20 quid to deliver

without insurance

[timid chasm]

Just another hater 😢

So we put a clown in office. what's the big whoop

[cursive summit]

https://techplusgame.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-multi-gpu-crossfire-delivers-up-to-93-performance-improvement-in-gaming/

[timid chasm]

but 2 won't fit in the case I'm using it for

[vagrant marsh]

you can dual wield a 6800 xt?

[timid chasm]

ok it will but I ain't fucking with that heat dissipation

[cursive summit]

@vagrant marsh You can dual wield anything you want

[timid chasm]

My wife lets me dual wield sometimes

[cursive summit]

GPUs, swords, guns or alcohol

[vagrant marsh]

you know what i mean vex 😛

[cursive summit]

Yeah you can

mGPU is still available just.. dead

Tbh who even plays Strange Brigade anymore?

[timid chasm]

I've been trying to get motherfuckers to play it for ever

but my friends suck but it's a shame it runs as well as it does and nobody plays it, haha

[cursive summit]

Dunno here's the thing with that article

They take games that are mGPU optimized

So the gains theoretically would apply to any card

[timid chasm]

doesn't mgpu support seem to be dying by a lot though?

[cursive summit]

Now with a non-optimized title, I would want to see that

@timid chasm Yes

[timid chasm]

Soo just run it on any Ubi title?

[ashen spindle]

sli is dead yes

mGPU is a feature that came with dx12

[cursive summit]

SLI dead, long live SLI2

[ashen spindle]

idk if any game even implemented that since its introduction 5 years or so ago thouhg

[crimson wigeon]

Benchmarks of the Singularity oh wait you said game

[pale sigil]

im so proud

of this build so far

i really outdid myself

[timid chasm]

Is it pretty?

[ashen spindle]

even ashes idk if that is sli/crossfire or actual mGPU

[timid chasm]

I've yet to make anything pretty. I'm a functionality kinda guy

[pale sigil]

i fixed the gpu wire after i recorded this so fite me

[timid chasm]

Can we get another video then

[cursive summit]

Nice 1070Ti

[timid chasm]

cause that gpu wire...shudders

[cursive summit]

Where's your RTX 3080?

[pale sigil]

haha it was an accident

i pushed it out when putting the panel on

also

its not here yet

it will be

[cursive summit]

Guys relatively dumb question

Could you buy some memory and solder it on the card?

In theory

[wheat plume]

oh, same CPU Cooler I have

[crimson wigeon]

Why not

[pale sigil]

Exaxtly, boooooo

im replacing it

[cursive summit]

I mean is literal hardware modding possible? 🤔

[pale sigil]

on the 12th

[timid chasm]

In theory? What's stopping you from soldering something to the card?

[pale sigil]

DIY 3080TI

[timid chasm]

Look up GPU mods that big burly viking looking dude does

wtfe his name is

[cursive summit]

Don't really know who that is 😄

[wheat plume]

GamerNexus?

[timid chasm]

what? how can you not

[wheat plume]

:')

[timid chasm]

let me spell it out

big

burly

viking

dude

Get it now?

[wheat plume]

uh

[cursive summit]

Not at all

[timid chasm]

Steve definitely mentions him in a video I just forgot his name. I assume it's Thor

[cursive summit]

I'm either on Steve from GN or Anthony from LTT

[timid chasm]

I like Anthony

[wheat plume]

me too

[cursive summit]

I don't recall Derbauer doing hardware mods

[timid chasm]

No not him

[cursive summit]

Then I have little clue on who it is tbh

[timid chasm]

It was the first time I actually saw this guy, haha

[cursive summit]

Are/Is they/he popular?

[vagrant marsh]

Wish, you never cease to amaze me

[cursive summit]

Hardware Canucks?

[timid chasm]

I'm gonna say not popular by benchmarking standards

damnit this is gonna drive me nuts

give me some time

[cursive summit]

Wait, Igor from Igor'sLab?

[timid chasm]

I'm gonna guess no

Who does Steve from GN do liquid cooling with?

[cursive summit]

I'd guess Derbauer

[timid chasm]

isn't derbauer kinda lanky?

like tall and skinny

[cursive summit]

Umm yeah?

[timid chasm]

nah not him

and not buildzoid

[cursive summit]

Forgot about him

JayZ?

[timid chasm]

fuck off

[cursive summit]

[timid chasm]

Bearded Hardware? Joe Stepongzi

maybe

https://youtu.be/cyz8KKpygeU?t=493

8:13

[cursive summit]

That beard is majestic

[timid chasm]

I don't actually know if it's what you were talking about since I forgot what they talked about but I remember him having Frankenstein gpus

[cursive summit]

Hm, so I suppose slapping on like 3x2GB's worth of GDDR6X is.. possible?

Assuming you are a hardware engineer of sorts

[timid chasm]

I think he talks about how they're making it more difficult to do but that would basically just be a new gpu based on that architecture I assume

so possible? Sure

new model* w/e

Well he plans to do something to a 3080 Ti or w/e so be prepared for that

[ashen spindle]

yeah ofc you can solder memory chips onto cards

[pale sigil]

my friend thinks 3080s will go back to normal Jan/Feb

[ashen spindle]

just be ready to it not work even with a perfect soldering job lol

january not, feb could be, depends on whats mostly causing the shortage

and if its resolved till then

if it's substrate, g6x etc.

[timid chasm]

I placed an order for a 6800 xt with a "avg" processing time of 7 days. Let's see how much Bs that is, lol

[ashen spindle]

how much above msrp?

[timid chasm]

after tax I think it was like 756 usd

so 685 vs 649 base prices?

[ashen spindle]

ah so a references model?

not too bad

if it does arrive that is

[timid chasm]

It's Sapphire but eh

[ashen spindle]

yeah but the MBA design I assume?

[timid chasm]

yeah not a Nitro or anything

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/21304-01-20g-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16g-gddr6

[ashen spindle]

ye so the reference design, so no difference between any manufacturer tehn

[timid chasm]

I think the Nitros were 819-843

fuuck that

[ashen spindle]

770 msrp

• regional scam tax

lel

at msrp a bit expensive but imo worth it

[pale sigil]

Can finally run modded mc without running out of ram @digital cliff

[timid chasm]

It can't run hotter than the 2080 blower I got so I should be fine...

if it arrives

[wheat plume]

same situation with my monitors :/

[vagrant marsh]

u aint got ur monitors yet?

[timid chasm]

Has yours shipped yet?

[wheat plume]

yeh

I got some of the other items in my order

[timid chasm]

damn. I was gonna say we could have a race and whoever loses pays in candy

[wheat plume]

lol

I got the monitor mount and the power adapters for the monitors

but not the monitors .-.

[timid chasm]

wtf the power adapters ship separately

[wheat plume]

They are from NL, so I need an adapter for the power plug

two prong to 3

[timid chasm]

ohh

[wheat plume]

they add those into the cart for you automatically for free

[timid chasm]

wait somebody uses only 2 prongs? I thought they were just oriented differently

[pale sigil]

lana love, stop being so ugh annoying

[timid chasm]

is the ground included in one of those 2?

[wheat plume]

?

[pale sigil]

Buy from good sources

haha

like a normal person

[wheat plume]

I got my PC parts from there

[pale sigil]

amazon etc

[wheat plume]

didnt think theyd fuck up this

[pale sigil]

i ordered my phone from Spain

i hate the charger

lol

[timid chasm]

wait did you build a desktop Lana? I thought you only did laptops

[pale sigil]

ages ago

[wheat plume]

yes, I built a desktop

3 months ago

[pale sigil]

she wouldn't listen to us :3

[timid chasm]

ohh nice I pay attention to nothing

what gpu

[wheat plume]

?

[wheat plume]

GTX 1660

[timid chasm]

We're gonna have to kick that up a notch

[pale sigil]

what cpu again

[pale sigil]

this is what i meant by not listening

hahah

[wheat plume]

Ryzen 5 3600

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume you paid like 120 for the monitors?

[pale sigil]

the hell

[cursive summit]

That's a lot of money for a stand and a plug

[pale sigil]

why do you ahve a 140 euro mobo

with a 3600

lool

[wheat plume]

?

[cursive summit]

The only one the shop had

[wheat plume]

not good enough board?

[reef patrol]

It's fine.

[pale sigil]

its fine ye lol

[ashen spindle]

needed wifi and the cheaper ones dont have it

[cursive summit]

It's a great board

[pale sigil]

could have got a lot cheaper

ah

[wheat plume]

this

[vagrant marsh]

261 for a 3600. glad i got mine for only 175 when it was in normal stock

[timid chasm]

Yeah I would think overkill but if that's all they had fuck it*

[cursive summit]

Tbh she could have just gotten a PCIe WiFi card

[wheat plume]

those are janky

[timid chasm]

uhm no

[cursive summit]

No?

[pale sigil]

let it be known

[wheat plume]

Unless you make sure they are Intel

[timid chasm]

We get Lana a 200ft ethernet cable.

[pale sigil]

i was offering a 7700k/1070ti

But she rejected meh

[wheat plume]

1660 better?

[cursive summit]

Callum you offered her a years old rig with no upgrade path

[wheat plume]

:P

[cursive summit]

Now at least she can go with 3rd gen Ryzen

[pale sigil]

for next to nothing....

[wheat plume]

I can get the newest Ryzen with this mobo

[pale sigil]

hell i was gonna give the 1070ti for free

lol

[cursive summit]

Hm

[timid chasm]

And it's not like 3600-5600 wouldn't be a bump eventually when they're available and cheap

[cursive summit]

You have piqued my interest

[pale sigil]

well no

not now

lol

i need to sell it

[cursive summit]

So what about this free 1070Ti? 🤔

Ah

Sad

[wheat plume]

arent you using it rn?

in the photos you sent

[cursive summit]

He's got a 3080 on the way

[timid chasm]

I'll raise callums 1070 Ti for free and offer a 1080 for candy if I get my 6800 xt 😛

[pale sigil]

ye but if you waited which you wouldn't

:3

[timid chasm]

your move Callum.

[wheat plume]

Yeah, I wasnt gong to use just my laptop for 3 months

[cursive summit]

How much you asking for the card Cal?

[wheat plume]

fuck that :P

[pale sigil]

im selling my entire system

not gpu

[cursive summit]

Not gonna do parts? 😄

[pale sigil]

to much effort

[timid chasm]

bruv

[cursive summit]

Whole rig? How much?

[pale sigil]

selling parts on the market sucks ass

never had a good experience

[timid chasm]

that's how you get ahead. You piece it out

You must live in some shady fucking places

[pale sigil]

ye but i can sell it as a high end gaming system

[cursive summit]

@timid chasm UK 🙂

[pale sigil]

to someone on fbook market

[timid chasm]

I only sell online with places like reddit and have 100% good experiences

[pale sigil]

huehuehue

[cursive summit]

Tbh it is shady af

[timid chasm]

oh facebook, lolol

[cursive summit]

UK are some weird people

Sell it on Wish

[timid chasm]

I'd die before I sold to anybody there

[pale sigil]

i live in a not so dense are

especially when it comes to tec

and my nearest city is 40m on train

[timid chasm]

everybody in my area is dense...

[cursive summit]

There are hardware swap forums

[timid chasm]

literally /r/hardwareswap but being UK that is a pain I imagine

[pale sigil]

not a fan of posting, i have to rely on my mum

ite

time to put this other computer back together

i had to remove my dh15 to access my nvme

lol

[crisp granite]

that's how you know you got a good air cooler

if it gets in the way

[pale sigil]

so basically

my plan is to put a 250gb ssd in there

and my 2tb

wipe em and sell the system as a whole

[vagrant marsh]

I KNEW IT!

i had posted my table here before

oh god, i thought i lost those pictures

[wheat plume]

how do I make a dataframe from one that exists already but only filled with rows that Nintendo are the publisher for?

[timid chasm]

I should learn to weld when I move back home

[vagrant marsh]

whoops. wrong channel

[wheat plume]

I dont like pandas ;-;

[pale sigil]

How

[wheat plume]

its hard :/ and wasnt explained to us

and idk how tf to make a new dataframe with only columns I want

[neat oriole]

Yeah pandas are pretty overrated

[pale sigil]

I give it a clean, could do more but cba

[wheat plume]

what happened the white case?

[pale sigil]

This is my older computer

[wheat plume]

ooh

[pale sigil]

With my 7700k etc

[wheat plume]

I CANT CODE FOR SHIT .-.

[pale sigil]

Glad I kept this

@wheat plume im sure you'll get better at cod

[wheat plume]

dfPubSort = df.loc[df['Publisher'] == 'Nintendo']

How would I edit this so that it also selects the Year, Name and Global_Sales column

[crisp granite]

@wheat plume anyone can be a sweaty cod athlete, you just have to dedicate your life to the craft

oh

code, not cod

my mistake

[wheat plume]

:P

[cursive summit]

@wheat plume If it makes it any better, I can't code for shit either

[pale sigil]

[reef patrol]

Oeuf

[ashen spindle]

you know I realized one thing intel has above amd

the iGPU is nice for booting into bios with no dGPU

[pale sigil]

Ye haha

I was going to do thst but thought for lols I'd put in the 750 I had

[wheat plume]

Dont the G versions of the Ryzen CPUs has iGPUs?

[ashen spindle]

yes the APUs have one

[pale sigil]

best way to securly wipe an ssd?

[misty pier]

bleachbit

[ashen spindle]

so it's useable or can it be dead afterwards?

[reef patrol]

If the SSD supports it, use the safe eraze feature.

[crimson wigeon]

send it the secure erase command

[pale sigil]

useable

[reef patrol]

What brand?

[pale sigil]

sandisk

[reef patrol]

https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/15108/~/dashboard-support-information

[pale sigil]

ite

i need to back up my 2tb hdd and secure wipe that too, thats easy tho

[reef patrol]

As NGH mentions Secure Erase is a feature. It uses less writes to clear the SSD safely.

[pale sigil]

ill do a basic wipe for now

put it in the other machine

then do a secure

ah ait no

im putting the os on it

so big nono

[vagrant marsh]

@ashen spindle so true. When i rma'd my graphics card, it was nice i could still use the igpu on the 6700k to play youtube vids and TTD

[pale sigil]

meh

cant wipe it

without booting into a thing

ill just fuckin wipe it

its only had games on it

lol

Ffs

Haha

Windows boot was on the damn ssd for some reason

Fuck me I can't boot into windows

😭

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-you-do-chris-farley-gif-11330782

[wheat plume]

Windows puts a thing into every drive :/

[reef patrol]

Ohffs... xD

Yes - Windows installer always puts the boot partition on Drive 0.

Even if that's your 3TB Mechanical hdd

[wheat plume]

my drive I use purely as storage as a window thing in it

reserved partition 🤔

[old marlin]

muh 128 MB

[reef patrol]

I always tell people to only have the one drive connected. Cause otherwise they might end up with having to sit in console hell for an hour poking at the bootloader with commands from google with help from your phone.

[wheat plume]

yeh but idk why its there

[old marlin]

my guess without looking it up would be some indexing

[wheat plume]

maybe, to mount it properly

[pale sigil]

Ffs

[wheat plume]

hm?

[pale sigil]

Ite

Whet can I do mansen

@reef patrol is it possible to do anything

[reef patrol]

Got a Windows installer USB stick?

[pale sigil]

Yes

Or well can

Shoot

[reef patrol]

Try the recovery options. It works sometimes (definitely not always)

[pale sigil]

How do you even get into recovery on a Windows USB stick

[reef patrol]

Failing that... Well... Got a spare drive and an external HDD to back up to?

You boot up the installer.

It's one of the first options.

[pale sigil]

Data ain't the issue

Just cba to install lol

RE install I mean

[reef patrol]

Reinstalling is going to be a hell of a lot faster than manual recovery.

We're talking so much CMD hell 😄

[pale sigil]

But the time taken to bloody get my windows back to normal is longer

[reef patrol]

Let me put it this way. When I was reviewing my 4TB NVME and cloned back and forth. I spent maybe... 45 minutes or more rebuilding the UEFI boot files by hand.

It was... uphill.

[pale sigil]

Sigh

There's shit I can boot up

Can't rmemeber the name tho

[reef patrol]

This is an important lesson to not wipe any drives your System has without trying to boot up without them first 😄

Cause 99% you done goofed when you installed and Windows had more than one drive to chuck the bootfiles on.

[ashen spindle]

Ffs do I really have to remove/rotate the cable management bracket? Stupid long gpus smh

[pale sigil]

Mu room is such a mess

[ashen spindle]

Chonky boi

[restive gate]

Lucky mfer

[pale sigil]

Moments like now make me happy I have fast Internet

Also that's the 6800 right

[ashen spindle]

Ye

[pale sigil]

Gay that

But I know your plan is to get a 6800 XT

[reef patrol]

👀

[restive gate]

Um

What

[ashen spindle]

I want an XT but only got this

And I got it so I can use it bc my 1080 is dying

[vagrant marsh]

You had multiple orders going?

[ashen spindle]

And I’d rather not use my 770 as daily if it does break

[thick elk]

Ah yes, my 7950 dying was the reason I got my 1080.

If it dies I really don't want to go back to a 4800, I may be able to borrow my brothers R9 285

Luckily my card is still good

[ashen spindle]

Ahhhh I knew it I have to remove the stupid cable management thing

Card is like 2mm to long

just makes me hate cable management even more

[pale sigil]

I loved it

It's therapeutic

[thick elk]

General rule for cable management: velcro is your friend.

[ashen spindle]

I'll move them so the airflow isn't hindered for the gpu

rest i dont care

got a case with glass panels on both sides and it'll just be stuck under my desk so I see nothing lmao

[pale sigil]

2 glass panels?!?!?!

[ashen spindle]

idk why it has on the right side

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef patrol]

To show off sleeved cables, super tight cable management and of course RGB AND FAN CONTROLLERS

UNTZ UNTZ

[ashen spindle]

yeah I got rgb fans in this case

I'll just connect the fan controller, not the rgb cable

really couldnt care less

[pale sigil]

Mum: How's your room? It needs to be cleaned so we can empty it tomoz

Me all day: still cleaning up mum!

Actually me rn

[thick elk]

RGB fans generally are a bit to much, While I did stick rgb strips to the side panel, they are just set to white to illuminate the inside.

[ashen spindle]

case with no fans costs the same, so might as well get my 3 free fans in

[wheat plume]

I love that case

[pale sigil]

Im so glad I got this case

Like I was so hesitant but I love it

[wheat plume]

whats the cable management like?

[pale sigil]

Superb

Did you see the video

[wheat plume]

ooo very neat

video?

[pale sigil]

That one

On my phone... Easier to pin it lol

[wheat plume]

oo

[ashen spindle]

Im gonna end up killing this board bc of this stupid 24 pin

Idk if it’s the connector or the cable but it’s so difficult to get that thing in

Bracket gone, now it fits :>

[wheat plume]

the part im nervous about if I get a new case is plugging all the connectors back in

I dont want to plug the wrong power cable into something and kill it

[ashen spindle]

thats a lot harder to do than you think lol

[crimson wigeon]

Licherally everything is keyed so you really have to try hard to do that

[wheat plume]

oohh

[thick elk]

RGB in some cases can be killed like that by using the wrong voltage

or so I heard

[ashen spindle]

sure if you shove your 8 pin in the 24 pin you'll probably do some damage

but I think you could also get like a million youtube views if you manage to do that

[thick elk]

Most of these mistakes are impossible as both the 8 and 24 pin are keyed.

[ashen spindle]

bc wtf how

im sure there is some way, like if you put the 8 pin sideways as 2 or 4 certain pins

[thick elk]

Possibly.

luckily the power supply won't turn on that way

turning it on is done by shorting two pins on the 24 pin

of course you could go around that one as well.

[pale sigil]

Looks like I ain't fixing my os

Well

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/DzVgr0mxBfI

I love the animations :O 🤤

[ashen spindle]

Well just the cooler missing but I think I’ll do that tomorrow

[pale sigil]

Hmm

I could run Linux

[ashen spindle]

yeah or you could not torture yourself

not that I'd judge

[pale sigil]

And run grub

Boot into windows

Fix it thst way

Nvm

Effort

[ashen spindle]

too bad even bios gets the cpu hot or I could test it if it works today lel

not gonna boot without a cooler

[pale sigil]

:(

I really don't wanna re install Windows

I have an idea!

[ashen spindle]

also another part why I'm glad I didnt need a d15 this time, smaller body makes for a much easier time to screw it in place lmao

[misty pier]

just install linux

grab your files

then reinstall

[pale sigil]

Files ain't the issue

[misty pier]

whats the issue 🤔

[ashen spindle]

linux

[pale sigil]

Lmao

I'm back in

I re plugged my ssd in

ok

so

i need to move over the boot loader

Crisis everted @reef patrol i got back into my os and changed the boot drive to my other ssd

[reef patrol]

😄

[thick elk]

Anyway here is my shitty cable management. RGB is in color cycle mode because I could not bother to change it right now:

Bonus one for the state of my case after general use.

[wheat plume]

tape

oh my

[thick elk]

Basically that ssd is not plugged in right now, I used it on my laptop for a while, it had an extra ring that made it thicker, however the screws didn't fit removing the ring so tape it is.

and yes I long lost the spacer ring and the screws.

[wheat plume]

damn :/

one good thing about not having RGB, less cables :DD

Thats always a good thing

[thick elk]

RGB in this case is pretty minimal cable wise, Most of it is just hte nature of a non modular psu.

[wheat plume]

ooohhhh

[misty pier]

yeah no rgb helps cut down on extra cable clutter

[wheat plume]

apparently corsair's RBG thing has way way too many cables

I wonder what Asus Aura is like

[thick elk]

RGB in this case is litterally 2 cables going to molex connectors which are already there anyway.

[wheat plume]

There is an Aura connector on my motherboard but idk how to use it :') I will need to look into that sometime

[misty pier]

aura you just plug your 4-pin into

or 3-pin

I forgot

then it’s manageable by software

[wheat plume]

software ah

oh right, the crate

[misty pier]

icue has support for aura sync

if you use icue a lot

might be something to look into

[misty pier]

yeah that seems about right

[wheat plume]

why it say my motherboard is compatible

there are no rbg anything on it

[misty pier]

no 4-pin header?

[wheat plume]

it has a header

idk what its doing rn, it seems to think the motherboard itself has lights on it

[misty pier]

weird

phantom rgb

[wheat plume]

WoW SucH GOoD DeaLS

[crisp granite]

bruh

[pale sigil]

Ite now everything is on track to sell this

[crisp granite]

selling a d15?

you monster

unless you're gonna buy another D15 with the profits

[pale sigil]

It doesn't match my theme

[crisp granite]

a chromax one would

they only cost an arm and a leg

small price for big cooler

[pale sigil]

Ye I know but finding the covers is difficult

Well

For a decent price

[solar hinge]

Which one did you get @ashen spindle xt or no xt version :P

[reef patrol]

Pretty sure it was a non-XT or I would have offered to buy it probably.

[ashen spindle]

no xt

[reef patrol]

Just to have a card xD

[crisp granite]

actually getting a gpu in 2020

POG

my local canada computers ran out of gpus

[ashen spindle]

if I get a xt I'd sell you the non xt lel

[crisp granite]

they actually have none to sell rn

[ashen spindle]

but you could try tomorrow 3pm to see if you get one

seems like some shops got some 6800(xt) models with their 6900 packages

[solar hinge]

but you could try tomorrow 3pm to see if you get one
@ashen spindle
Is that when the 6900 goes live here in Europe?

[ashen spindle]

yup

[solar hinge]

And here I was staying up till 00:00

[ashen spindle]

lol

has been 3pm for the last amd launches as well

[solar hinge]

Well i checked all of the nl webshops and they're telling fuck all about it

[ashen spindle]

no shop here mentioned it either

bc enough people know it already for it to be gone instantly

no need to add extra server load for people who just f5

[solar hinge]

Was amd allowing aib to make 6900 or not? I remember reading before they weren't allowing it

[ashen spindle]

nothing official yet, but leaks seem to show there will be some later

but it seems like sapphire is reviving their "toxic" brand name for gpu

and I doubt that would be on a not top end model

[crisp granite]

the toxic cards from forever ago were pretty good

[ashen spindle]

ye it was the hall of fame/lightning/kingpin variant on AMD cards

[crisp granite]

I think I have an old one somewhere

don't remember the gpu though

[pale sigil]

I want 10gb

:(

Transferring 1tb to my NAS

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah

my nas should be in the office now lol

thats a lot of hardware to deal with this week

man im glad I'm in home office, gives me enough time to set all the stuff up without needing to take days off lol

[pale sigil]

Guess I'll clean up while it's getting done

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmmZTMiC34 @fickle ore let's hope I can also get a free 40% increase lol, have a similar ripjaw kit, just 2x 16

[fickle ore]

40% increase? wot

4500/cl14?

[ashen spindle]

4300 16

[crisp granite]

w0t?

[ashen spindle]

b-die can be nice

[crisp granite]

how do I know if my ram is b-die?

[ashen spindle]

uhh some tools can read it

taiphoon burner for example, but it's not always accurate

[crisp granite]

uh

can I just consult a table to see if my ram kit is on it?

[ashen spindle]

nope

bc ram kits dont always use the same bins

they can switch it up

[crisp granite]

ah

ok

is it possible for a cheap ram kit to contain b die?

or just the high end kits?

[fickle ore]

GL lol

[ashen spindle]

can be found in cheap kits

but not all b die is good

it's just what can be the best

[fickle ore]

Im happy if I can do 4000/cl14 x4

[pale sigil]

I'm happy at 4000mhz

Seems stable so far

[ashen spindle]

cl 40?

[crisp granite]

I'm happy if I can tighten my timings a bit

which I kind of doubt I can do

I payed so little for the ram kit

[misty pier]

i have hynix cjr

:|

[pale sigil]

After a good clean irs not looking to bad to sell

Well alright clean

Haha

[pale sigil]

Guess I'll leave it on over night

[wheat plume]

uuhhhh

[reef tundra]

bloatware.. use shred instead

[wheat plume]

owo

[pale sigil]

Gonna put it aside for my cousin

[restive gate]

Thas nice memory ya got there

[pale sigil]

Mhmm, it's what came with the original bundle

I replaced it with 32gb 3600

[wheat plume]

Oh.
Is this why the lights on my headphones and mouse stay on when the computer is off?

[misty pier]

probably

[wheat plume]

I can't find the actuation force for the titan optical switch

[crisp granite]

assume 45g

that's bog standard for linears labelled "red" switches

[wheat plume]

Hmm
I see

[zenith sonnet]

I'd be happy with a stable BIOS already

[timid chasm]

Interesting limit, Steam.

[vagrant marsh]

Yea, mine is as well

Well, was. I limited it to only 20mbs so my youtube doesnt buffer too much

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Drive secure wiped

Computer is pretty much ready to sell once I get my 3080

250gb ssd and a 2tb drive is much more appealing haha

[zenith sonnet]

Weird

I got an issue with cursor corruption cropping up since a few days

But only on the second display

[vagrant marsh]

Cursor corruption?

https://amp.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5yx55f/amd_cursor_corruption_fix/

Did you try to google such fixes?

[fickle ore]

@zenith sonnet there are currently USB issues on b550/x570's with current agesa, some of it related to PCIE 4 and C-states I think

[zenith sonnet]

Which AGESA?

[fickle ore]

1.1.0.0

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/k8mtes/pcie_gen_4_causes_usb_problems_on_b550x570/

[zenith sonnet]

Is this fixed in Patch D?

[fickle ore]

who knows

[zenith sonnet]

🤷

At this point I'm just waiting for a stable F31 BIOS

Might still be a while

[pale sigil]

Ryzen 5 4600h or intel i5 10300h

[ashen spindle]

aint that laptop chips?

[pale sigil]

Yes

Sister wants a laptop

[ashen spindle]

for christmas or can it wait?

[pale sigil]

She’s wanting it soon to use

If you’re on about ryzen 5 gl getting one

[fickle ore]

bad options, get whatever...

[pale sigil]

Suggest something then

Budget is £700 max lo

[fickle ore]

idk anything about your sister and her usecase

cant suggest

[ashen spindle]

idk, depends on the laptop, unless its all the same you can just select the cpu

higher power cpu with much bigger battery can still be used longer etc.

[pale sigil]

Games and general use

[fickle ore]

Does she want a big monitor, what weight? budget? gaming or just facebook/insta?

[pale sigil]

Aim is a gtx 1650

Monitor I’m giving her

£700 max

[fickle ore]

desktop then if games are concerned

[ashen spindle]

january 11th is CES, new amd laptops announced there, but idk how soon they will be availible

[latent mural]

The ryzen

More cores

[ashen spindle]

otherwise, look if you can get a tigerlake with just integrated graphics perhaps

[pale sigil]

No

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle lmk when caseking stops scalping

[pale sigil]

Laptop

[ashen spindle]

yes

[pale sigil]

She wants to use it for uni etc and basically plug it into the monitor at home

1650 is fine for gaming

She would only do light gaming and it’s more than enough

[ashen spindle]

look if you can get a tigerlake with just integrated graphics perhaps

[pale sigil]

Quin, she won’t wait and tigerlake integrated graphics is still a step down from a 1650

[ashen spindle]

yes tigerlake is out already

[fickle ore]

Then you know better Callum, you know your sister's needs and you have enough knowledge to pick a laptop already 😉

[pale sigil]

I gave you the requirements

You know them too

[ashen spindle]

idk what laptops are being sold in the UK

[pale sigil]

1650
£700 max budget

[ashen spindle]

and im not gonna look through the sites

[pale sigil]

Ik I’m just telling dag

[zenith sonnet]

I'd say go with an HP Edge with Ryzen in that price class

[zenith sonnet]

Is F4-3600C14D-32GTZR a better bin than F4-3600C16D-32GTZR?

I notice the only difference seems to be timings and voltage

[cursive summit]

Isn't CL-14 better than CL-16?

Dunno, but my money'd be on the first one

In a move that surprised ABSOLUTELY NO ONE

https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/07/samsung-ditch-power-adapters-after-mocking-apple/

Oh Samsung, you so so silly

[wheat plume]

They did the same with the notch too

they made an entire series of ads mocking Apple for the notch and they have them too now

[cursive summit]

Which is why this surprises no one

Then again marketing and engineering departments rarely ever work together

So if Samsung marketing agents knew, they probably wouldn't have said anything

[zenith sonnet]

@old marlin @ashen spindle Is midnight shopping still a thing on Mindfactory? Do you know?

[old marlin]

should be

mindfactory is down for me though

[ashen spindle]

is it? not for me

was curious what they'd charge for a 6900xt but couldnt see any listings

[old marlin]

ah

now it works

https://www.mindfactory.de/info_center.php/icID/16/referrer/box_news_highlights

yup still is

[zenith sonnet]

@old marlin Thanks

@ashen spindle Didn't see any either, but the same was true for the 5000 series

[halcyon moss]

huh, whats that? thats.. weird

[reef patrol]

Lower CL better CL. Ignoring the physical chips might allow for better OC on the slower RAM in some cases.

[cursive summit]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-12-1

[halcyon moss]

no shipping costs if you order at night?