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misty pier
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oh yeah.. filters are needed too

analog aspen
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You have to wash those by hands

misty pier
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not washable so replacable

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or washable?

analog aspen
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Washable by hands

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No machine

misty pier
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that's convenient then

analog aspen
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I’m impressed

misty pier
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I just want a low maintenance bot

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I don't mind cleaning up the internals and other stuff myself

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as long I don't have to pay for replacement stufff

analog aspen
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You have to do it every time after it cleans

misty pier
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not a big deal then

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so just another daily chore for me

analog aspen
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Sigh...

misty pier
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ooooh..

analog aspen
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Get the eufy

misty pier
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I wonder if it's easy to replace batteries too?

analog aspen
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Batteries are fine

misty pier
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or are they soldered in

analog aspen
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The robot is so just dumb it used up all its battery just to clean 3 rooms

misty pier
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poor robot KEK

analog aspen
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Over and over and over again

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And got lost

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Unable to find its base

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Run around in circle until it’s battery died

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Ima have to go find it now

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🄲

misty pier
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tbh I can't decide whether I should get those internet-connected ones or

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the regular DIY ones with the remote

analog aspen
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I don’t think it matters

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If you have a smarter one that you can just leave cleaning around while you’re gone

misty pier
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like this is my first uhh.. smart home product

analog aspen
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And trust that it cleans everything

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Get internet connection so you can start cleaning job from, say, your office

analog aspen
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And is very disappointed so far

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Again I got this bot like 3 days ago

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And only cleaned 2 days

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I literally have to supervise this bot

misty pier
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guess I'll know what I'm getting then

analog aspen
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Yeyeye

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Let me know

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🄲

misty pier
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just going to get one gift wrapped and sitting in my closet until christmas KEK

analog aspen
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Christ I can’t find the bot

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🄲

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Wish it has like a car button

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You press on it and it tells

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Yells*

misty pier
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reminds me of a robot some guy modified to yell when it bumped into something

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oh god that would be comedy for me

ashen spindle
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@fickle ore you were looking at the sabrent iirc? not sure if it was this model or some other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd-0-lxOmM

Links!

Hello everyone,

Sorry about the delay with this video! Wendell has teased it a bit. With all the released products right now, L1 has been a little delayed with some things we'd like to get out of the door. Here it is though! I hope you enjoy :)

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analog aspen
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I’ll swap this 675 for i7, hopefully it’s smarter

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Actually has room mapping and a camera

misty pier
analog aspen
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Right now ā€œbumping occasionallyā€ is a gross understatement

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It bumps WHILE adjusting under it no longer bumps into the wall

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Yeah they are all heavily discounted rn

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That’s why I pulled the trigger

misty pier
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I'm tempted

analog aspen
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Cause my mom’s back getting worse

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All the iRobot are all time low rn on Amazon

misty pier
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yeah you know what

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I'll get one now

analog aspen
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Scratches on bumper because it literally tries to bump and turn at the same time

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And on the top because it tries to spin under furniture

misty pier
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maybe I think I'll wait

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:|

analog aspen
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You uhhh need help there buddy?

misty pier
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my decision making process is like a swinging pendulum

analog aspen
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Okay tell me the reason you wanna buy now

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Vs Christmas

misty pier
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just to get it set up and trial it

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see how well it cleans

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although if I do need to return it, the return period is pretty generous

analog aspen
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Yes it’s all the way to January

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Okay now tell me why you don’t wanna buy it right now

misty pier
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maybe there's a promotion or another sale looming around

analog aspen
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That’s it?

misty pier
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yeah, not sure if the price would drop more or not

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or if I got promotional credit

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anyways I'll probably consider it next week

analog aspen
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Here’s its price chart past 2 years

misty pier
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guess this is the lowest then

analog aspen
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As you can see it drops around this time until March

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Then raise again

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So no rush

misty pier
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gotcha

analog aspen
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šŸ‘ gotchu homie

misty pier
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I'll order it early so I don't have to worry about the christmas rush

analog aspen
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Let me know how it works

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Hopefully it’s not as abysmal as mine

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🄲

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And when you decide to get the spewing robot

misty pier
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maybe no spewing bot

analog aspen
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Same

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Just in case when you finally want it

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Or if I buy it before you

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I’ll let you know how it works

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🄲

misty pier
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thank you šŸ˜„

pale sigil
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Ite

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I need a case

ashen spindle
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want my old one I'll get rid of out of my closet once the new pc is build? lol

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this absolute chad of a gamer case

pale sigil
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I had that.....

ashen spindle
pale sigil
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It was nice

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Fite me

ashen spindle
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idk man, I had a ATI 6970 or so back then

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no wait, 6870

pale sigil
analog aspen
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People donning chad case while mine was like $75 phanteks

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🄲

ashen spindle
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fun fact

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6870 my first gpu

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6800 my latest gpu lel

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too bad I don't have the box of the 6870 anymore

pale sigil
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Can’t remember my first gpu

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First one I bought myself tho was a 6850

ashen spindle
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before that it was a shitty laptop so idk what was in there lol

analog aspen
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Did I hit jackpot if my 9900K OC to 5.1Ghz without delid?

ashen spindle
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uhh, sounds like it

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at what temps

crisp granite
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yup

analog aspen
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Also really low volt

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3.5?

ashen spindle
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uhhhhh

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uhhhhh

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hopefully not lol

analog aspen
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Wut

ashen spindle
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if 3.5 is your Vcore, and the cpu is not instantly dead

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uhhh, liquid helium maybe?

analog aspen
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Eh what’s the safe vcore again

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I haven’t touched OC for awhile

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0.35v?

ashen spindle
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below 1.5 for almost every cpu afaik

analog aspen
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1.35?

ashen spindle
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that would be realistic

analog aspen
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Ye I think mine is 1.35 then

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Sorry 🄲

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1.35v 5.1ghz

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I think I can push 5.2 but 1.4v or something so I think not worth it

ashen spindle
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what temps do you get with that?

analog aspen
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5.1?

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Fairly low

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Around 80 heavy load

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90 when stressed

ashen spindle
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not too bad

analog aspen
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My cooler getting old...

ashen spindle
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wait

analog aspen
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4 years old AIO

crisp granite
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get that sub zero cooler

ashen spindle
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right, 9th gen is when they started using Solder again for cpus

analog aspen
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Corsair H110?

crisp granite
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you can get sub ambient temps with it

ashen spindle
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so delidding would be nice but not as big as I thought

analog aspen
crisp granite
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and I don't think they changed the mount much with lga 1200 from 1151

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so it should fit

analog aspen
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I had 9700K and I delidded that instead

crisp granite
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if you really want lower temps

ashen spindle
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I got my 8600k with LM, thats why I at first thought 9th gen also still uses paste

analog aspen
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9th is when Intel woke the f up

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AMD gonna keep em rattled

crisp granite
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ryzen does weird shit

ashen spindle
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no, it's when thermodynamics forced them bc they otherwise couldn't keep up lel

crisp granite
ashen spindle
crisp granite
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FX 9590 worked

analog aspen
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Then again it would’ve cost an arm and a leg if haven’t for the competition

crisp granite
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somewhat

thick elk
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Just look at the ryzen 5000 prices, and probably the 6000 in the future

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that would be intel if they continued without competition.

crisp granite
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ryzen 5000 prices are not good rn

analog aspen
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Tech companies tryna pose luxury brand

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Ayaya

crisp granite
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a 3600X costs just about 60% of a new 5600X

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here at least

thick elk
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Without competition they just need to be good enough to warrant a upgrade from time to time.

crisp granite
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exactly

analog aspen
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Or just have more camera...

crisp granite
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and I doubt my 3600XT will need to be replaced for a few years at least

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hell

analog aspen
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If you’re not really PC masteracing it could last for half a decade at least

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A decade ez

crisp granite
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I'm pc masterracing

analog aspen
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vroom vroom

thick elk
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My 8700k also lasts a bit longer, which btw was priced somewhat similar to the 5600x.

crisp granite
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but I really doubt I'll need much more for 1080p for a good long while

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cuz 1080p is the best

pale sigil
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You say that....

analog aspen
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Depends

crisp granite
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I don't play e-sports

analog aspen
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No

crisp granite
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I just like my AAA games at 60+ FPS with high settings

pale sigil
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144fps is a must

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Don’t need to be esports

analog aspen
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Esport is the main reason why people still hang around 1080p

crisp granite
analog aspen
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Casuals are all about 4K now

crisp granite
reef tundra
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144r refreshrate feels so natural

crisp granite
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I can't stop not getting the frames

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besides

pale sigil
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It’s great

analog aspen
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4K 120hz OLED TV $2k

crisp granite
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a 4k display similar to what I got in my 1080p would cost me at least 5 times as much

analog aspen
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LTT reviewed

crisp granite
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144 hz, IPS, G-sync, 1ms response time

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I don't even wanna think aboot 4k panels with all that

analog aspen
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If you’re casual might as well move to 1440p

pale sigil
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1440p ā¤ļø

crisp granite
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I'm gonna wait a bit

analog aspen
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1440p 144Hz is cheaper now

crisp granite
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I know the 1440p panel I want

analog aspen
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1440p 240hz new tech

crisp granite
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I just wanna wait till it's reasonably priced and easy to drive

analog aspen
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If anything I’ll jump straight from 1080p to 4K

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Cause x4

crisp granite
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ew

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no

analog aspen
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1080p to 1440p isn’t really x2

crisp granite
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I wanna go ultrawide instead

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not bigger

analog aspen
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So the pixel can be weird

crisp granite
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but wider

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I'm thinking about something of G9 caliber when I deem myself ready for a new panel

analog aspen
pale sigil
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Someone suggest a case

reef tundra
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is 240 refresh noticeble compared to 144?

analog aspen
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P500

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P400A

reef tundra
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or is it more feeling?

analog aspen
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Lian Li Mesh

crisp granite
analog aspen
ashen spindle
analog aspen
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So it’ll be a looooooooong time

crisp granite
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mhm

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so I'll wait

reef tundra
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Does anyone know much about the negative vs positive pressure thing?

analog aspen
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Doge is negative fan

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AMA

crisp granite
analog aspen
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Big brain? Oof

crisp granite
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that's my dream panel rn

analog aspen
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I don’t get it

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By the time you get the g9 so many better panels will be out

crisp granite
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or cheaper panels with similar specs

analog aspen
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^

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Tech currently evolves too fast 🄲

pale sigil
reef tundra
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Tech moves a lot, especially when you specialise in it

ashen spindle
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I need to look at ebay prices of my monitor, I might be able to sell my monitor and get a better one for less lol

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thanks g sync module lel

analog aspen
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I bought an SSD for my client and he was like ā€œWOWWWW THINGS ARE SO DIFFERENT NOWADAYSā€ and I think to myself ā€œI ordered that because your computer doesn’t have M2 interfaceā€ 🄲

reef tundra
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Monitors are depreciate quickly

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like insanely

pale sigil
analog aspen
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Well those are performance cases

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Seems like you’re atheistic kind of customer

ashen spindle
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then look at some that are not mentioned, still do well on their graphs though and take a look a those yourself then

reef tundra
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my case was chosen for is cube form

crisp granite
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noice

reef tundra
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makes stacking shit on it better

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lemme see, which manufacturer

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fractal designs

pale sigil
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Was wanting to go nzxt

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Opinions?

analog aspen
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Check that bad boy out

reef tundra
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Ask twomad he might have some contacts \s

ashen spindle
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idk, nzxt has absolutely shit cases and good ones

crisp granite
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twomad might be able to hook you up with a freshly dropped case

ashen spindle
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that's like saying you want an MSI gpu

analog aspen
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Jokes aside take a look at h700i @pale sigil

reef tundra
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WIth the freshest bts

analog aspen
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What’s wrong with msi gpu pepesweat

ashen spindle
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nothing or a lot, depends on which one lol

reef tundra
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WHATS WRONG WITH MSI BRUF, THEY GOOD INNIT?

crisp granite
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gaming X trio 3070 is great

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from my personal experience

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quiet even under full load

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cools well

analog aspen
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Also wtf is OC curve in the MSI tool

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Why can’t it be stable OC and has to be curved

crisp granite
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idk

reef tundra
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I just got the cheapest 2060 there was

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its one of the small kinds

crisp granite
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oh

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damn

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ITX cards are not the best

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not even a good choice

reef tundra
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Its fan is loud as fack tho

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might replace it with some noctua

crisp granite
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gpu deshroud with tweezers zipties and noctuas

reef tundra
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found the order its a Gigabyte Geforce RTX 2060 Mini ITX OC 6G

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only complaint is the loud fan on load

reef tundra
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but with headphones cant hear it

analog aspen
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Go smol

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H700i = h500i

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It’s the same thing but smaller

pale sigil
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I’ve built in a h500i that was nice

analog aspen
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Buy h510i then

pale sigil
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Wot no

analog aspen
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Usb c

pale sigil
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Was gonna say

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Irs not the same size lol

reef patrol
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The H series cases need to die.

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At least grab an S340 Elite if you can šŸ˜„

reef patrol
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Your components in an H500

crisp granite
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@reef patrol the louqe ghost S1 needs to be in stock outside of sweeden too

reef patrol
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I've seen at least three on sale on danish "craigslist"

pale sigil
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Why do they need to die

reef patrol
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Because NZXT think airflow is a meme. There is so little air intake in the side panel it's embarrassing.

analog aspen
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NEGATIVE PRESSURE

crisp granite
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get a pure base 500dx

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then thank me

reef tundra
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airflow is pretty important. if not for the cooling it is good for dust prevention

pale sigil
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Can’t be that bad

reef patrol
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It is šŸ˜„

crisp granite
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it really is

analog aspen
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Idk I’m still neutral pressure kind of boy

pale sigil
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Write an essay with it and provide 10 sources min

reef patrol
reef tundra
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but is 'negative' or 'positive' pressure even effective? and withone is better for dust, cooling and/or noise

reef patrol
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A picture says more than a thousand words šŸ˜›

pale sigil
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I want a small case 😭

crisp granite
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then get a louqe ghost s1

reef tundra
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apparantly i got the Fractal Design Node 804

crisp granite
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and prepare to have your ass wallet emptied and reamed

pale sigil
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To smol

crisp granite
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h210i

reef tundra
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The airflow must be so constricted in that

crisp granite
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in what?

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the h210i?

reef tundra
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the louqe ghost s1

pale sigil
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Lad we just discussed nzxt is apparently bad

crisp granite
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you said big SFF

reef tundra
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nzxt is just a meme

crisp granite
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h210i is just that

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not a great one

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but one nonetheless

reef patrol
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Consider the O11 Dynamic Mini if you want a fancy big SFF case.

pale sigil
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😦 with the 011 mini wasn’t sff

reef patrol
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BIGG SFF

crisp granite
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or a razer tomahawk mini if you really hate yourself

reef patrol
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Just like NZXT's "smol" cases šŸ˜›

analog aspen
pale sigil
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my psu won’t work with with mansen

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Otherwise I would

reef tundra
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Dust is mostly a concern when you place the pc on the floor right?

crisp granite
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nah

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it is always a concern

analog aspen
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Dust is always a concern

reef tundra
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Luckly i dont plasma cut in this room

crisp granite
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you just asked someone (me) with asthma if dust was a concern lul

analog aspen
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But don’t put your computer on the floor if it can’t breath underneath. For example high carpet

crisp granite
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haha

pale sigil
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011 is so big

reef patrol
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laughs in just upgraded to the XL

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It literally came with the mail today.

crisp granite
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laughs in SFF case just got ordered, might come next year

reef tundra
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Haha, dust is not a problem here. Too many fans running with hepa filters

analog aspen
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Kinda random but anybody use diffuser near PC?

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Essential oil?

crisp granite
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nope

reef tundra
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I dont remember why i added a filter to my 3d printer coolend fan anymore ...

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the benzos got to me i guess

analog aspen
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filter everything

pale sigil
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Another thing I’m not a huge fan of with the Li 011 is the need for a shit ton of fans

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For it to look nice

crisp granite
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shit-tons of fans is the only way to live

misty pier
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i like fans that are big

reef tundra
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And use radial fans as they work better

misty pier
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big fans

reef tundra
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disadvantage is that it spews it sideways

analog aspen
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The only problem I have with fans is if they’re hydraulic

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And spills water

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Literally nightmare

reef tundra
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Hydrolic pistons are a nightmare already

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fukin o rings that slip off and spew the oil everywhere

pale sigil
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And having more fans will just cost to much

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For the sake of looking nice

reef patrol
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laughs in literally nine fans

pale sigil
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Wait wait wait wait

reef patrol
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Best uhh... 210 pounds I ever spent xD

pale sigil
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You can place the radiator on the back?!?>?

reef patrol
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In?

misty pier
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of what

pale sigil
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Li 011

reef patrol
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Yes... and no.

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SOME radiators will fit.

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If they're too wide, they won't since the IO panel is in the way

pale sigil
misty pier
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its smol

pale sigil
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Why does the mini have to be sff 😭😭😭

pale sigil
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Huge

reef tundra
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my prusa i3 broke down and took it for parts how bad... would it be to run the 5v noctua fan on 24 volts?

reef patrol
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can't wait to clear my desk tomorrow and put it all in the case again. With the art. šŸ˜„

analog aspen
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I want

misty pier
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think it's an ipad?

pale sigil
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Correct

analog aspen
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I uhhh can’t bring myself to use an iPad

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I might as well sit at my computer

reef patrol
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Got one for "work" so I gotta xD

reef tundra
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Well..

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suprise

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5v noctua fan cannot handle 24volts

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it died at around 20 volts

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lol

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it became really loud around 8 volts

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I have written it down, so this is science and not fucking around

pale sigil
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Speaking of noctua

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Gonna have to stop using them 😦

misty pier
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why's that? šŸ¤”

reef tundra
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...

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I think the fan is dead

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its shorted

pale sigil
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To big

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I don’t have low profile wam

reef tundra
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it either draws nothing or the 500mA current limit

ashen spindle
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.. you now noctua has more than just the d15?

reef tundra
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like the NF-A4x10

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which i just murdered

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for science

ashen spindle
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lol

reef tundra
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now i know the 5v model cant handle 24 volts

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it died at 20

pale sigil
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Ye but their products are usually ugly

ashen spindle
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not a fan of the black variants?

reef tundra
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But it be silent tho

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unless its on 8 to 10 volts where it becomes loud

pale sigil
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Since when did they have black variants other than the dh15

reef tundra
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I have done the science

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and murdered the fan along the way

misty pier
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they got case fans that are all black

reef tundra
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It does not smell of burned enamel

ashen spindle
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crisp granite
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beautiful

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the NH-U12S chromax

pale sigil
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Silver heat sink

crisp granite
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literally the best cooler

reef tundra
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Maybe if I carefully remove the fins and replace the coils. I could fix it

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BUT NOONE HAS TIME TO WIND THOSE WIRES

ashen spindle
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https://noctua.at/de/nh-d15s-chromax-black there, not fan outside on this model

reef tundra
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Normally the nf-a4x10 draws 0,05 amperes

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now it does the 500mA current limit at 1.88 volts

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Those coils are fucked

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and damn these fans are expesive

crisp granite
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@ashen spindle it comes with 2

ashen spindle
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so just use one

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he only has a 5600 anyway

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that thing is absolute overkill

crisp granite
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nah

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no such thing as too much

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both fans

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with no low-noise bullshit

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just a y-splitter to cpu fan

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and prepare for cool operation

old marlin
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@crisp granite that is the S

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It only comes woth one

crisp granite
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w0t

analog aspen
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I’m still curious so if anybody use a diffuser of essential oil near computers let me know

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🄲

restive gate
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So long as they're not electrically conductive I would think it'd be fine

analog aspen
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Thing is it’s half-n-half from people I asked

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Some say it’s oil, oil is bad

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Some say essential oil completely evaporates so nothing to worry about

restive gate
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Depends on the oil

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Rubber is oil, but melted rubber would be fine, (even though it smells disgusting)

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Not all oil is automatically bad

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Especially considering that some 'essential oils' aren't even oil technically speaking

misty pier
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I heard essential oils make stuff sticky?

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I’m not sure though

restive gate
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I would say it depends on what you're using, look at the ingredients and make sure there's not anything conductive in them

restive gate
analog aspen
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🄲

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Maybe I’ll be like @reef tundra and HEPA filter all my cases

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Buy a faraday case for router as well

edgy hull
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@analog aspen you probs can't get 3600 if you RAM isnt retraining the rest of its timings. What are all your primary timings and DRAM voltage when you try 3600?

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Also what CPU?

old marlin
#

@restive gate if they can leave non coductive residue they can still be hurtful by blocking cooling components and clogging fans and drives

edgy hull
#

For most oils the concern usually lies in corrosion rather then conductivity

crimson wigeon
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Does anyone here actually use one of those essential oils and if so why?

fickle ore
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@pale sigil do what i did

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NH-D15 have 32mm ram clearance cuz of the ram-slot side fan

reef patrol
#

Or just do single fan on it šŸ˜„

ashen spindle
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dag he only has the 5600x lol

fickle ore
#

So instead get NH-D15S. It comes with strips and you can buy a NF-a12x25 120mm fan to put in the ram-slot side

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Oh noob cpu nvm

ashen spindle
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really not worth making a max performing d15 mod for anyhting

fickle ore
#

ah, nh-d15s alone prob cools 5600x just fine

reef patrol
#

Can confirm.

fickle ore
#

Actually noticed was a problem with lot of ppl and they didnt consider this route Oo

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I kinda want a faraday router/modem

pale sigil
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problem is the size

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it wont fit my ram

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how much does it alter the coolingt

#

if you move the fan to the left?

pale sigil
ashen spindle
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a fan on the inside so unless it's extra short mobo the finstack ends before the ram

pale sigil
#

like is it the same size tho

ashen spindle
#

again, d15 for a 65W cpu is just stupid

pale sigil
#

heatsink wise

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i just love how silent it is lol

ashen spindle
#

you can get a U12S and it'll still be silent

pale sigil
#

ugly tho

ashen spindle
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can't wait for you to get a case with no side panel so you wont even see it

pale sigil
#

xD

pale sigil
#
ashen spindle
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like you know thats how it looks yes?

pale sigil
#

lol

ashen spindle
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its the same thing as the d15 just smaller

pale sigil
#

why did he do this to himself

ashen spindle
#

what?

pale sigil
#

gotta be all black no text pepeglasses

fickle ore
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@pale sigil NH-D15S has 65mm ram clearance

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its enough for all ram

ashen spindle
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get the 12s, it's black, cheaper, cools your 65watt easily

edgy hull
#

except those tall af quad rank sticks

#

be real cheap and get the Gammaxx 400, same perf as 12S

pale sigil
fickle ore
#

most ram have I think 44mm

pale sigil
#

dats impressive

edgy hull
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doesnt say noise or heat output

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useless graph

pale sigil
#

i mean

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noctua is pretty silent

fickle ore
#

heat output between different coolers? wot

edgy hull
#

of the CPU

pale sigil
edgy hull
#

like a x62 on a XOC vBIOS 2080Ti outputting ~600w of heat will do fine

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12S, probs not so much

ashen spindle
#

...

#

wat

fickle ore
#

ahh you mean what W is the cooler rated for?

ashen spindle
#

are you using a GPU as an example for when a cpu cooler will do bad?

edgy hull
#

what Im talking about is the device outputting enough heat to make the cooler perf differently then what the graph says

fickle ore
#

So Wattage rating

edgy hull
#

we dont know if the graph is showing a 35w CPU or 140w CPU

#

wattage rating on the CPU cooler also meaningless

#

calced differently between companies

fickle ore
#

wat

ashen spindle
#

yes the graph was lacking lots of info, probably because he took the picture form somewhere and didnt link the website

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but like, don't use a gpu for an example about cpu coolers???

pale sigil
#

ryzen 3900x

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i think

edgy hull
#

I mean when a CPU cooler says it can dissipate 200w of heat, marketing
Also, x62/x63 are decently common to be used on a GPU

fickle ore
#

He's not wrong in that a higher W gpu will output more heat into the case, which is more problematic for a lower end cooler such as U12S

edgy hull
#

infact AIO cooling was one of the best for Turing, better then many custom loops

pale sigil
#

but im on about cpu lad

edgy hull
#

CPUs can still output lots o heat

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I just used a very extreme example

pale sigil
#

OwO

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Can get h115i in white

fickle ore
#

It's 5600x tho, outputs prob like 50w šŸ˜„

ashen spindle
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*77

edgy hull
#

nvm

fickle ore
#

Maybe Calium has a 3090 pumping 600w into the case ;b

edgy hull
#

shit graph, total system power

pale sigil
#

CALLIUM

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CALLIUM

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CALLIUM?!?!?

wheat plume
#

Calium

fickle ore
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Calium

ashen spindle
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how is it a shit graph... it's correctly labled

pale sigil
#

dead to me

wheat plume
#

VScallium

edgy hull
#

whole system, not CPU only

pale sigil
#

You came here cos of the OwO didn;'t you Lana

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pft

fickle ore
#

Kalium 40 isotope radioactive Callium

wheat plume
#

huh?

patent glacierBOT
#
This verification becomes invalid after 30s.

Do you want to ban @fickle ore?

pale sigil
edgy hull
wheat plume
fickle ore
#

wot Kalium is Potassium in english

ashen spindle
#

yup kekw

fickle ore
#

true potato callum

pale sigil
#

What are other good options for aio

edgy hull
#

Arctic Freezer II

fickle ore
#

420 rad arctic freeezer

edgy hull
#

best price to perf

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420 is overkill tbf, but eh

ashen spindle
#

ask mansen for his 420AiO he wants to get rid of for 50% off

pale sigil
#

second han tho

edgy hull
#

means better price to perf

fickle ore
#

you don't really need a good cooler for 5600x methinks, spend the extra on good RAM

pale sigil
#

holy crap

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thats big

ashen spindle
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yeah or spend more money on cooling than you pay for your cpu if you want

pale sigil
#

@reef patrol how much

reef patrol
#

Wat

pale sigil
#

i just dont like not having warrantys

reef patrol
#

Already sold the 420mm to Quinn

ashen spindle
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lol rip

edgy hull
reef patrol
#

Wouldn't be worth it for just an AIO anyhow. Shipping is too expensive.

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Cheap loop xD

pale sigil
#

anyway

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:/

#

i cant decide on case and cooler

ashen spindle
#

well custom loop is different, much bigger on looks and such on that one

reef patrol
#

I'm probably passing the 1200$ mark at this point šŸ˜„

fickle ore
#

CASE: Lian LI Lancool II Mesh Performance

#

ez

edgy hull
#

Bykski and Barrow are bloody gods at price to perf in custom loops

pale sigil
ashen spindle
#

dag I linked him the GN article that included that case, he liked none of them

reef patrol
#

šŸ˜†

fickle ore
#

doh

pale sigil
#

oh

fickle ore
#

Yea I guess the lian li lacks rgb

reef patrol
#

Bright side - Most can be sold on or just reused again and again.

pale sigil
#

im very much considering the Noctua NH-U12S mostly

reef patrol
#

Not a fan of Bykski. Feels way too chinese.

pale sigil
#

i really love noctua

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like i literally cannot hear noctua

fickle ore
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@pale sigil stick a nf-a12x25 on the U12S for a 2nd fan ;>

pale sigil
#

wheras AIOs are bloody jet engines

edgy hull
#

If I can get it for 40% of the cost of any of the other companies, Im buying Bykski

reef patrol
#

To each their own of course.

edgy hull
#

I mean if I was buying whatever high end stuff, I'd go Heatkiller/Aqua Computer probs

fickle ore
#

buy that new intel fridgecooler

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slap it on amd

edgy hull
#

so long as the heat output isnt >200w, you should be fine with the "super cooler"

pale sigil
#

meh

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i dont think noctua offer black fans seperately

reef patrol
#

Trouble with Bykski is... they're Us based.

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Fun fun warranty times.

pale sigil
#

Honestly, i wanted to go with an all white build

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but that aint happening

edgy hull
#

I mean, do you need much in liquid cooling warranties tho?

pale sigil
#

yes....

edgy hull
#

pump I guess

reef patrol
#

It definitely happens šŸ˜„

pale sigil
#

ive had 2 coolers fail on me

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omfg

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h100i and h80i

reef patrol
#

It's not like I've had a pump literally die randomly back in summer.

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Left me without a PC for two weeks.

pale sigil
#

my friend had their kraken die

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my other friend 2 krakens

fickle ore
#

meanwhile 10 years running on silver arrow šŸ‘€

pale sigil
#

i guess you dont know my curse

edgy hull
#

but then again, Im getting it at 40% of the cost, and I also have extra hardware lying around. Pay another $30 for a new pump or whatever and go without liquid cooling for a bit if the bad luck happens

pale sigil
#

NZXT H510i is so nice ;=;

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but i really do care about air flow

reef patrol
edgy hull
#

cut a hole in the front

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should be decent then

pale sigil
#

like all these cases are fugly

#

but maybe th right one

#

BUT I CANT USE THE RIGHT ONE

fickle ore
pale sigil
#

its under perfect lighthing and insanely good build

fickle ore
#

I mean I got mine on the floor looks insanely clean

pale sigil
#

also not white

#

which is kinda poop

ashen spindle
#

then get it in white????

pale sigil
#

you cant?

reef patrol
#

šŸ˜†

ashen spindle
reef patrol
#

Looks good for mesh.

pale sigil
#

;-; not in the uk

reef patrol
#

So?

#

Shipping isn't so bad. I've ordered all? Of my cases past five years from caseking.

#

Both Dynamics and my testbench.

pale sigil
wheat plume
#

just reversed my desk layout...

pale sigil
#

oh lana

#

dearest lana

#

hmm

#

that case is pretty big

wheat plume
#

what

pale sigil
#

you change things

#

every minute lana

ashen spindle
#

then get the o11 mini and a different psu

wheat plume
#

:')

misty pier
#

might consider a aio bracket upgrade for my gpu

pale sigil
#

but from what i gathered there are no sff pus that are high

misty pier
#

during heavy load it pushes hot air into my ssd.. making it hit 76C

#

šŸ—æ

pale sigil
#

650w

edgy hull
#

depends on what you consider high wattage. There are 850w sfx PSUs

pale sigil
#

there is?

#

ah ye

#

the cooler master one

#

but

#

ugh

#

cooler master

edgy hull
#

model>brand

restive gate
#

There's also 1000+w 1U PSUs

ashen spindle
#

why would you need 850W with a 65W cpu anyway...

restive gate
pale sigil
#

Well

#

not 850w

#

more 750w

restive gate
edgy hull
#

no?

ashen spindle
#

yeah memepere doesnt need 700W

edgy hull
#

unless you get a 3p 450w+ GPU

restive gate
#

On a 3090? Good luck with less than 900

edgy hull
#

you know the 2nd best 3090 can pull is 500w right?

#

1st best being Kingpin

restive gate
#

And then you add the wattage from everything else and it totals to around 800, yeah, and you always want some amount of overflow

ashen spindle
#

man what is it with people and bringing up random ass edge cases when it's about one person looking for parts for a certain pc build not variable parts

edgy hull
#

no, not unless very high end CPU

#

PBO 5950x is 180w no?

#

rest of system is 120w or smth

#

so a 3p 3090 + 5950x + decent system "rest of system" would be 800w of power

pale sigil
#

sreasonic why u no make 750w

edgy hull
#

Seasonic usually is overpriced, but eh

pale sigil
#

ye but

#

the only one i trust other than evga

#

and even evga dont have many options for sfx

edgy hull
#

brand means nothing tho

pale sigil
#

it does, certain psus use certain parts

edgy hull
#

evga likes to make not that great PSUs overall tbf

pale sigil
#

EVGA use seasonic and one other

#

there is a whole db on this

ashen spindle
#

yeah seasonic has good psu's and bads, corsair has good and bads as well

edgy hull
#

sfx might be fine cuz I didnt research their sfx ones

#

but evga as a whole, most of their PSUs arent that great

true quest
#

brand certainly means a lot

pale sigil
#

Nah

#

they are great

#

their upper series anyway

edgy hull
#

no, they arent great. They are meh

true quest
#

mine is working well to this day

edgy hull
#

their upper ends are nice, but overpriced

pale sigil
#

literally use seasonic

#

hw are they meh

restive gate
#

Wow something subjective that people will die over

#

Incredible

ashen spindle
#

because seasonic is also not perfect in all psu models they make

pale sigil
#

but they are known to be the best for a reason

#

either way i dont like the idea of getting a cooler master psu

ashen spindle
#

and if evga happens to use the shit one it means nothing

edgy hull
#

some things to look into for PSUs: voltage regulation/ripple, included protections (and whether they work properly), transient response, capacitor quality, fan quality, noise (both from fan & coil whine), whether it's group regulated, whether it's multi rail, how good the solder quality is, what the failure rate is, what the average failure of the PSU causes, etc

ashen spindle
#

and if CM is using seasonic rebranded it's miles better potentially

pale sigil
#

if it was

#

but i doubt it is

ashen spindle
#

so look up models and dont guess

#

names in a market with so much rebranding dont mean shit

edgy hull
#

even then, some companies still modify the platform

#

so cant go off base platform but rather full on reviews

pale sigil
#

*rWHY DO ALL CASES HAVE TO BE BLACK

fickle ore
#

There have been cases of transient power spikes up to nearly 600w on 3080, but they are gone pretty fast. Some older PSU's might'nt be enough if you run an expensive gpu.

#

You'll be safe with a 3060Ti/3070 methinks

edgy hull
#

afaik those spikes shouldnt happen. 600w spikes on 3090 FTW3 and EVGA has stated it's working on a fix for it

pale sigil
#

TIL lian do aios

#

LANCOOL 205 MIDI TOWER CASE

#

hmmm

pale sigil
restive gate
#

pretty

pale sigil
#
#

ye... i like the look of it a lot

#

its now down to pirce tbh

#

why i like it

#

but im concered the low price = something bad

restive gate
#

that's a valid concern, especially with cases. good cheap cases can be hard to come by

pale sigil
#

according to gamers nexus is pretty much down to only having onme fan or something

#

i like the 215 but its to big

restive gate
#

ik NZXT has the h510 which is pretty cheap and decent, but it has a solid front panel, so rip airflow.

pale sigil
#

ye thats what ive read

#

id get the h510i

#

if it wasn't for all the nefative airflow stuff

restive gate
#

for sure

pale sigil
#

does that even matter for air cooling tho

#

or is it down to radiator

restive gate
#

it depends on your heat output

#

from what I hear, a midrange rig, something like a 5600x and a 3070, should be fine, it's getting into higher heat outputs that it becomes a problem afaik

pale sigil
#

5600x/3080

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is what im going for

restive gate
#

I would think it would be fine, but I'm not 100% on that, I'd look at reviews

pale sigil
restive gate
#

H1

#

the first one?

pale sigil
#

the new itx case

restive gate
#

ah

#

ITX

#

well all of those are fire hazards tbf

pale sigil
#

if the li lan was white id love it so much

restive gate
#

pff

wheat plume
pale sigil
#

so pretty

restive gate
#

damn

#

those fan light rings too

restive gate
#

that's dope

pale sigil
#

this is why i wanted the kraken

#

lol

edgy hull
#

honestly, just spend <=$100 and DIY a screen into the whole sidepanel

restive gate
#

omg have you seen the one where they made it look like homer simpson is powering the pc with a bike generator?

pale sigil
#

ye lol

restive gate
#

fricking amazing

#

that's what I wanna do

pale sigil
#

so expensive tho

#

😦

restive gate
#

true, especially if you just legitimately can't justify a 240mm aio worth of cooling

pale sigil
reef tundra
#

Termal runaway

#

sounds like fun time with thermocans

pale sigil
#
#

tempted to get this +https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-U12S-chromax-black-Single-Tower-Cooler/dp/B07Y88BNYZ/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=chromax.black&qid=1607047840&s=computers&sr=1-2

restive gate
#

this is stupid, don't get me wrong

#

I just don't get why I should care

#

so some brainlets get scammed, eh

#

nothing we haven't seen before aye?

wheat plume
#

I like to laugh at people who think wireless devices can harm you with radiation

restive gate
#

ah

#

well they're right if they're talking about sticking your head in a running microwave

#

but I doubt they are

wheat plume
#

It'd such a tiny slot
And the awkward angle xd

#

Luckily I had my right angled cable

restive gate
#

oh man

#

your patience greatly exceeds my own lol

#

why are the sata ports on the bottom? aren't they usually on the right side?

#

that's so weird...

wheat plume
#

IDK.... Ask Asus :')

restive gate
#

wack

wheat plume
#

It's actually nice in this situation

restive gate
#

how so?

wheat plume
#

The cable isn't visible on this side

#

Other than seeing the connection to the sata port

#

The cable goes to my hard drive mounted behind the motherboard plate

restive gate
#

I guess so, but I'd rather have a bit of cable showing than have to do, well, that^

wheat plume
#

Yeah
......

It was very frustrating

#

My friend tried after me and he got it in

restive gate
#

I mean it's tolerable, and I guess if you really like your cable management, then it's a fair position,

#

i just don't have the patience lol :^)

wheat plume
#

My computer is the definition of cable mismanagement

restive gate
#

oof

wheat plume
#

I stuffed them all into the drive bay

restive gate
#

uh that's

#

what everyone does

reef tundra
#

I mean a microwave is also around 2.4ghz... but the power levels are uncomparable

restive gate
wheat plume
#

I'm not smart

reef tundra
#

Smart people use wireless wires

wheat plume
#

Xd

#

Yes

analog aspen
restive gate
#

please don't use wireless adapters for internal connectors, that sounds like the biggest mistake a person could make

analog aspen
reef tundra
#

YOU SHANT STOP ME AND ALL MY NON-COMPLIENT ARRESTABLE POWER

pale sigil
reef tundra
#

please wear googles though

restive gate
reef tundra
#

hehe thigh

#

im a tired programming panda

#

strings are just glorified pointers

wheat plume
#

I only added that zip tie to the cable coming down the back of the case today
It kept hitting the hard drive so I pushed it behind the sata connector

restive gate
#

ok but considering that's a non-modular, honestly impressive bro

wheat plume
#

Hmm.....
Thanks 😊
(At least it's not as bad as my friend's... He has the same case as I do but his side panel bulges because of the cables)

restive gate
#

ouch

wheat plume
#

He does have rbg fans and lights adding extra cables...

#

And three more drives so he needs to use the drive bay

reef tundra
#

I use the age old trick of an aluminum panel to hide the mess

restive gate
#

does he have a non-modular PSU as well?

wheat plume
#

Same
Cause that side is just metal

wheat plume
reef tundra
#

with enough motivation any psu is modular

restive gate
#

please no

#

interesting how hardware gore is harder for me to stomach than actual gore

wheat plume
#

I don't look at gore
But yeah....

Mostly the same here

reef tundra
#

You should be there when me and benzos mix

#

hardware gets murderd

restive gate
#

but even just conversationally

reef tundra
#

and things get soldered

#

without planning

restive gate
#

soldering shouldn't have been invented

reef tundra
#

It should have

restive gate
#

because then everything would be forcibly modular

#

technology would've advanced slower, true, but then it would be correctly

reef tundra
#

For connectors you use crimping tools of a few thousands euros

wheat plume
reef tundra
#

That german properiotery connector aint coming cheap

#

btw the deutche connector is pretty dank

restive gate
wheat plume
#

:p

analog aspen
wheat plume
reef tundra
#

anyone know where they cut 3030 alu extrusions to specification with decent accuracy?

restive gate
#

why do you do these things

reef tundra
#

To make frames

#

Im too lazy too cut them myself

restive gate
#

I was addressing lana but sure

edgy hull
#

could probs get it, but would mean setting a lot o timings

#

so that things work more properly

restive gate
#

isn't 3600 c16 already kinda overkill for intel?

#

I thought intel still didn't really matter past 3200

wheat plume
edgy hull
#

depends

#

I've seen 4000c16 get 10% more perf then 3200c16 on Intel

#

all dependent on what is "bottlenecking" your task

#

If you're some eSports dude with a lot of money, 4000c16 will benefit you a fair bit as you are rarely wanting to push settings. So GPu will be low usage and CPU probs will be too

edgy hull
#

depends if GDM is on

analog aspen
#

What’s gdm

#

🄲

edgy hull
#

gear down mode, just think of it making it run at 1.5T

#

when set to 1T at least, idk much about making it set at 2T

analog aspen
#

You make me wanna go try OC again now

#

🄲

edgy hull
#

idk what is average for 1T/2T, all I know is that at 3700MT/s ~c16 (cant remember exact timings) having 1T is rare

analog aspen
#

I haven’t touched BIOS for almost 9 months

edgy hull
#

eh, you doing 3200c14 right?

#

if so, and you are doing eSports style settings (making settings setup so CPU/GPU isnt really being pushed that much), then you'd probs benefit from it. Otherwise it'd usually be edge cases for seeing major perf gains

analog aspen
#

What’s esport style settings

edgy hull
#

most stuff on low except for whatever gives you a competitive advantage

#

so like render distance or something

analog aspen
#

Pretty much yea

#

Meaning I benefit from fast RAM more if my CPU/GPU doesn’t max out?

#

Still don’t really get it

wheat plume
analog aspen
#

Lannaaaa

#

Lannister

edgy hull
#

unless FPS is capped, one of the next bottlenecks would be memory bandwidth/latency

analog aspen
#

16gb should be more than enough for gaming

#

Don’t know about latency but apparently Intel scales up to 4000mhz

wheat plume
#

Uh

edgy hull
#

Intel should scale upto much more then 4000MT/s, maybe not on average tho idk

#

not like I have any new Intel chips to really test that out

analog aspen
#

That’s pay back for calling Callum calcium

#

🄳

wheat plume
#

Callium

#

Xd not calcium

analog aspen
#

I just went ahead xD

wheat plume
#

I didn't start that

analog aspen
#

I’m evil

wheat plume
#

I forgot who typed that first

analog aspen
#

When will cache OC useful

#

My cache is like 46 rn

#

🄲

#

Too lazy to OC

edgy hull
#

cache OC should be nice, also requires voltage to push tho, even on nicely binned chips

reef tundra
analog aspen
#

Aye segmentation when working on strings

reef tundra
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Printed the whole programming memory just a while ago char by char

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pretty neat

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you can just read the enviourment variables like that

analog aspen
reef tundra
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or even the pid

edgy hull
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depends, have heard of it being an okay amount more perf. Idk what it is on average, even for a 9900k

analog aspen
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I think it can push 1.4

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Quintosh said 1.5 lul

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Mine is nicely at 1.35v

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I don’t have enough cooling to not fry my cpu when it’s 1.4v+