even fuckin blocking sites isn't possible
#🔌│tech
ashen spindle
ye I know it didnt have much, barely used it
crimson wigeon
Set the ethernet connection your computer to 10 Mbps full duplex ecks dee
reef patrol
At least you have DMZ.
pale sigil
Fake DMZ
reef patrol
A lot of ISPs don't have that or ports
reef patrol
Lovely.
This is why I am so glad I managed to pressure my ISP in just getting the modem. No gateway.
reef patrol
Our ISP expects us to have fiber modem, then their gateway box and WiFi extenders on top of that.
Took me a month of complaints and referring to promises made before we moved and they finally caved.
So now it's just fiber modem into my router.
reef patrol
Lovely.
pale sigil
@ashen spindle
im not to bothered
i will get a decent router and just use modem mode on the isp box
but id rather get a proper router
halcyon moss
ubiquity 🤤
wheat plume
huh?
ashen spindle
they look great but not really what you need as a normal consumer
then again everything offered by isps is shit so maybe they should just make a generic router for home use
crimson wigeon
Isn't that what the Dream Machine is for (damn it's so expensive though!)
halcyon moss
ubiquity has several solutions for routing
But if i get a big house, id would probably get the dream machine
the pro version
fair gull
not that the ground texture matters much
idk man its supposed to be a sim not eye candy
are we talking flight sim x or the weird just flight sim
havent even watched content of the new flight sim yet
pale sigil
Really? It’s mind blowing
fair gull
i know that flight sim x can be super technical tho
misty pier
I want to fly into my house 
pale sigil
Literally everyone does
pale sigil
Some guy trying to scam my friends little brother
on really bad hardware
He sent this
wheat plume
omfh :')
reef patrol
😆 
pale sigil
just give me a pink gpu
wheat plume
^^
ashen spindle
but does it keep my temperature in the pinks?
wheat plume
They shipped a GPU with a lipstick? For real? xD
@ivory geyser https://youtu.be/oj-1UfhUiaA?t=611
proud nacelle
I'm assuming this would fall into #🔌│tech, but is there even a correct term for anything outside of LAN? WAN comes to mind, but would that represent the Internet or not?
proud nacelle
Well it was worth asking
ashen spindle
yeah there are nodes inside that ahve special names but I dont think there is a name for a big cluster?
proud nacelle
Well with that information I will phrase my potentially dumber question: Is there any way to make a "LAN"-based game open to the internet, without having to deal with software like Hamachi, Tunngle, Radmin, etc... I can't force the game to be "dedicated" either.
ashen spindle
cant really think of a way without software
proud nacelle
That's exactly what I didn't want to hear. Damn. Off to go dig the best crapware for this kind of thing then.
Also sidenote, why the fuck are static ip's +$200?
fickle ore
@proud nacelle Open ports for that specific game?
fickle ore
@proud nacelle Try bridged vs routing mode. No NAT'ting
ashen spindle
ye I was assuming you can set an ip if he is looking at software like hamachi
proud nacelle
Will do.
Also I want to avoid hamachi because that stuff is the equivalent of sticking your hand into a blender.
fickle ore
When you run bridged you use the IP of your internet provider, no more your own.
its kinda open to the internet
ashen spindle
ye the other person still needs to connect to your "lan"
fickle ore
Try it thats how I managed to get ppl in my server, when portforwarding did not work.
proud nacelle
Well yeah I understand that but that doesn't solve the game scanning for lan only.
ashen spindle
guess you could try to dig into game files and see if you can change it looking for a ceratin ip and not local lmao
fickle ore
console?
fickle ore
no I mean open console in the game
proud nacelle
no such thing
Well, there is such thing (>2019) but you literally cannot do anything except type "help" into it
fickle ore
cant type "connect 123.23.231:27015"?
proud nacelle
Nopeee
You're thinking source
Be nice if it was that way, would solve a hell of a lot of problems.
But with games being "always online only" and the fact you can't get dedicated servers...
I'll just go and search for some piece of software that isn't total garbage.
No other choice I don't think
wheat plume
reef patrol
wheat plume
GG MICROSOFT
ashen spindle
your screenshot from what happend to you?
wheat plume
r/softwaregore
ashen spindle
so probably fake
wheat plume
there was 3 posts about this
all with different screenshots and one person had IE browser
ashen spindle
and all 3 were unreadable or did you just pick the most blurry one to share with us
wheat plume
they all blurry
ashen spindle
wow I wonder why
wheat plume
the IE one was a photo taken of the screen with a phone
reef tundra
I think it is more likely to be a false setup or something injected into it
frozen anchor
probably just a renamed virus file
zenith sonnet
News on the XSX SOC, nice#
true quest
proud nacelle
Couple people here do.
Right not what I meant to do
This is what some people had to say.
proud nacelle
halcyon moss
:pikachu shocked image: oh no no one ever expected that to happen with occulus
old marlin
someobdy got a clue for headphones that are useable in office enviroments
should not be ANC
and not bleed music
ashen spindle
uhh, my wireless sennheisers ones would fit, not perfectly in regards to not bleed music, but its very minimal
ashen spindle
HDR180
old marlin
big point is being able to clearly understand everyone still
ashen spindle
ye I can clearly talk to people with them on
old marlin
those bose sunglasses would work 
but I'd have to wear sunglasses 24/7 indoors
even during winter
zenith sonnet
Reduces eye strain
Go for it
Most work places are overly bright anyway
Because muh regulations
old marlin
lol
nope
not mine
usually blinds are closed in my office
"AfterShokz Trekz Titanium"
cringe name
quite a bit cheaper
might try those
80 euros
same stuff
well
same tech
not exactly the same obv
but bone conducting
which seems to be the way to go for what I want
wheat plume
arcolinux has really nice youtube-dl aliases by default :D
halcyon moss
@old marlin i use my dt 770 pro's with great succes in an office environment
reef patrol
Today : Rebuilding my loop.
old marlin
big point is being able to clearly understand everyone still
@old marlin
halcyon moss
so you do not want isolating headphones?
old marlin
no
halcyon moss
dt 880 semi open or dt 990 open ?
halcyon moss
did not read everything
old marlin
and my HD6XX are way too bulky
halcyon moss
kinda defeats the purpose of headphones in the office :p
halcyon moss
nah i get it, just kidding. i personally want isolation
old marlin
while not being so commited to it that I can't interact withy anyone else
halcyon moss
but hearing other ppl implies open headphones, open headphones imply sound bleed
halcyon moss
👍
old marlin
bone conducting seems to be the answer
empty wren
Oracle buying TikTok, well okay.
old marlin
rate my repait of a "dead" HDD
aka take it out of the broken caddy and mount it directly in the case
meanwhile tony either crying that the 20 year old HDD got back in or rubbing his hands cause they have a stockpile of old parts and make big money off of them
empty wren
Is it screwed in only on one side with two screws?
old marlin
3
one further in the back
those cases are pure garbage
you have to fully disassemble the computer in it
and it has been sitting right next to the sewage system of a electroplating company
so it has a crust of corrosive grime and salt everywhere
empty wren
good thing you did not take a picture of that xD
but those rusted screws looks like a nightmare
empty wren
ah alright
pale sigil
500/1200 saved for my new build
pale sigil
Anyone know any mobos that support 3300x out of the box
ashen spindle
any b550/a520
pale sigil
trying to be budget
ashen spindle
a520
ashen spindle
what
pale sigil
a520?
pale sigil
oh i see none
ashen spindle
launched today
or yesterday idk
https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3611-amd-a520-chipset-comparison-specs to make sure it has enough connectivity for your needs
ashen spindle
@old marlin any news on whatever mouse you couldt say more about that comes soon-ish?
old marlin
Nope
Would say no leaks yet
But there was one about the name in korea
Got deleted quick
A total of like 3 people in the west took notice lol
Only one that shared it was someone that talks shit on OCN
ashen spindle
ye mine seems to work again so I dont care yet, friends fk1 just died though
ashen spindle
looks funny
ashen spindle
he had it for 5 years so I guess he got a good mileage out of his fk1
ashen spindle
nah he just got a new fk1 before I could even ask him if he wants a different one
old marlin
Oof
Zowie shills
0 improvement since 2013
On shell
Worse scroll
But hey
Sensor upgrade
Wowee
Only 4 years late to the party
ashen spindle
hes not really playing enough to notice a big difference and it fit him so doesnt really hurt to get the same
old marlin
Well
fickle ore
27ms lag on razer optical switch loooooooooooool :KEKW
old marlin
He still overpaid
frozen anchor
Even if you must have the zowie shape just getting even a model o is better
old marlin
@fickle ore when does that matter?
ashen spindle
he's from the uk so he overpays on default 
fickle ore
god razer is bad
old marlin
@frozen anchor model o build quality
Also dag again
When does it matter
Stop throwing r0ach level shit around
It us not debounce
Fml
Get your facts straight
If you shit so much about it
It is release delay
Completely irrelevant
Unless you do more than 40 cps on average
old marlin
Could be
It is release delay
Completely irrelevant effectively
It literally does not matter
frozen anchor
Ok so it shouldn't matter
old marlin
Different switch
frozen anchor
If other mice already have 20ms
old marlin
Or did astrum switch a third time now?
Ok
Affects you when?
No
But you are apparently talking shit for the sake of talking shit
0 reasoning behind it
Well you scream it in here
Without reasoning
Literally r0ach level garbage
What is the reason
When does it make a difference
You gave me shootmania jumps
Which was irrelevant
It is not as a reaction in shootmania
frozen anchor
What can you do with 20ms but not with 27ms
old marlin
You only have to know how long to hold it
Which varies on each mouse
Don't remember those
Ah wait nvm
Yea difference is a single frame lol
Wait till you learn that directx 11 can't make use of 360hz monitors lol
Draw function is literally too slow
Lol
You compare input delay
Not release delay
Xm1 release delay is not public
No
Not true
You can do it fully independent
Also nothing public about xm1 release delay
Yes
Not even sure if xm1 is confirmed to do latching
Don't have a source
But it is pretty simple
Was just not done to save processing power on the mcu
His firmware sucked lol
You can have them fully independent
Afaik xm1 just has the detection voltage lower btw
Might be wrong on that
Nah
Well
Could be
But a modern mcu is powerful enough to manage 2 debounces
Not sure if the m1k has 0 software debounce
Not even the wooting has
And it doesn't even have contacts
Yea
Wtf
Damn
They don't necessarily have to use the same debounce on that
Encoders are usually less prone to chatter
More prone to bad inputs
You don't need optimal
Just not garbage
It is like 3389 vs 3360 lol
Nah
Scroll is mechanical
Lol
Well
The way you talk shit about debounce is almost on par with him
Bit more grounded
zenith sonnet
@old marlin Anything new about that mouse mat yet?
AMD RT implementation looks interesting
But does it increase heat density considerably?
old marlin
Atm solving the latter with some polish temporarily
Which makes it even faster
That polish is the white gunk you see on mine btw
Although it certainly is more of a grey than a black
ashen spindle
pale sigil
English
old marlin
20 chokes probably
Instead on 10
On the reference pcb
And boardpartners don't even know it yet
ashen spindle
go to the site and select english
the 20 chockes is nothing new
he even linked the tweet mentioning it in the article
zenith sonnet
These things will be extremely power hungry
But crash under intense loads due to strict power limits, unlike AMDs cards, that would just draw even more power
ashen spindle
might not be the case this time, 10 and 20 series had surprisingly good VRM on founders card, and the new cooler that seems to be on the new series looks not bad, so FE might be more than just an option for water cooling
wheat plume
I found this in a secure linux shell script, these are safe to run? it says they can make it harder to do MITM attacks
ashen spindle
google it? stuff like that is something you should understand when you use it, not just trust random people on what it does
wheat plume
yeh ive been looking into it
ashen spindle
++++ you mean :p
old marlin
true
ashen spindle
I like how Raja mentioned they no longer do this because they actually started to mix them up internally bc its too many +
old marlin
lol
ashen spindle
my idea would've been to just not fail 10nm for 5 years and you dont need 5+ but what do I know
crimson wigeon
Just don't fail 4Head
ashen spindle
well, turn on sharpen 5 and tell us how it is
crimson wigeon
Definitely eye cancer
ashen spindle
It'll be a split like RDNA/CDNA at amd site I bet
just like Volta and Turing already had some differences
the DC focus yes
bc jensen is a smart man and knows where the money is
crimson wigeon
Oh my what happened there
I should buy stonks they only ever go up it's like free money for doing nothing
ashen spindle
still kicking myself in the ass for not buying AMD stock before zen 2 launch, I thought about it but thought its probably not worth doing yet
proud nacelle
Something is horribly wrong here: How come an older and cheaper HID is lasting longer than a more expensive one (atleast 4 times as much)?
ashen spindle
Same kind but newer or does it have different features
proud nacelle
Not even features that are the problem
Literally the main aspect of said HID.
AKA Clicking and scrolling.
ashen spindle
So it’s a mouse
ashen spindle
Because the newer one might focus on something like weight, shape, sensor etc. over longevity
Way to abstract to give you an answer
wheat plume
https://www.ign.com/articles/monster-cpu-is-100000-times-more-powerful-than-the-xbox-series-x?amp=1 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm my gosh
proud nacelle
Let me specify then I guess
ashen spindle
Let me guess cerebus or w/e the name is, the wafer scale chip?
Shit headline has nothing to do with console cpus
wheat plume
idk why they compared to consoles...
ashen spindle
Bc it’s ign and that is a datacenter product, nothing that the ign users know about
timber crest
i guess they want to make a relation for non-tech aware people
ashen spindle
Retarded way but it’s ign so what should you expect
ashen spindle
Sure, Hotchips talk about it was nice
timber crest
though it looks like many cores have just been connected to get higher transistor counts
proud nacelle
Mouse from a prebuilt computer from around ~8 years ago : Still working. Same goes for the keyboard that came with it. Nothing fancy either. Literally a membrane keyboard and a run of the mill mouse without side buttons. Wooting : One ir sensor (presumed) defective or solder failure while under warranty. Logitech G300s : Page forward key is dead under a year. Roccat : Scroll wheel is dead after 6 months. Dollarama mouse : Left click dead after 2 weeks.
ashen spindle
Nah they need to plan for redundancy at that scale an depending on yield disable/enable cores
timber crest
@proud nacelle you could also be just very lucky with the mouse you got 😛
pale sigil
but i do love my g403
proud nacelle
I doubt that, no offense. Even other mice from other prebuilts I have had are still alive and being used by my relatives. Keyboards are still the old PS/2 ones fyi.
timber crest
Sure, it was just one possibility, but in my experience from owning PC's since the 90's is that simpler the tech inside the longer it works
ashen spindle
So your small sample count of simple devices with fewer features and thus less points of failure leads to sample bias that makes it seem like new stuff is made with the goal to fail after time
timber crest
My Atari ST 4 basically still works, but i can also solder new transistors/capacitors/chips on it without much issue
proud nacelle
Well I dunno about you but core features of a device failing doesn't make much sense.
timber crest
it can do 128bit math, it just can't do it super fast
fair gull
i meant finish calc within my lifetime
proud nacelle
I could understand hotkey buttons or whatever, but when the scroll wheel fails or pg fwd/pg bck fails, I don't understand.
timber crest
it's within your lifetime 😛
fair gull
doubt
timber crest
no worries the difference in my old C code on the ST4 and my current CPU is not that much
fair gull
my TI calc is faster than ur atari
fair gull
thats what u think
timber crest
You also race your rocket to work 😛
fair gull
btw what if ur proc dies in ur atari
i mean
wouldnt
a room sized pc be better
cause u can replace relays
and transistors
timber crest
You can get them in a lot of stuff
fair gull
ya but they break so easily
timber crest
it's prettymuch still in everyday devices
the m68k for example is used in the sega genesis older macs, toasters, fridges, trafficlights
and the transistors are standard transistors
fair gull
actually fuck even the first computers
timber crest
😛
timber crest
I just wante to point out to one user earlier that older stuff usually does not die easily because it's pretty raw and has no "fine/sensible" part that could break easily 😛
I mean i use my atari for nostalgia from time to time eg: games, music and having some fun coding something on it
fair gull
this is as simple as counting all active/passive components and having some average failure rate
meaning that yes modern stuff is more likely to break but mostly due to a ton of more parts
doing way more work
than some 10year calculation of 1+1
(yes ik your atari doesnt literally take 10years to calc 1+1 and can do it in 10seconds)
timber crest
My CRT still works, i was planning on doing a HDMI mod at some point later
But if it ain't broke i ain't gonne fix it
@fair gull i dunno why but i calced the difference my atari ST is only 188 times slower then a modern PC 😛
not accounting for software differences
so instead of 0.0012s i need to wait 0.2256s for my simple 3D mesh generator to run
😛
ashen spindle
Now do the same for avx 512 optimized stuff :p
timber crest
ZEN users are triggered
fair gull
did i just see a comparison between a motorola proc to a modern multicore cpu
ashen spindle
Fine, avx 2 then
timber crest
yep compared to my 9900k
I mean the main advantage of AVX2 is that you have register calls for 128bit vector ops
Which is btw a great way to improve the perf of chromium, since it can then abuse that for JS object references to be moved in one operation
😛
ashen spindle
Another way to improve your performance is to block javacrap:p
timber crest
nah, if you want to surfe the web like 2001 i would recommend you to get a HTML only renderer
pale sigil
i wish java died
timber crest
umatrix is actually nice, blocks the stuff you don't want and keeps the rest
javascript isn't java
😛
ashen spindle
Both crap though
timber crest
They have their purposes, i lived trough so many programming languages i'm happy we have modern JavaScript for example
i used to have to work with the JavaScript from the 2000's
And used by actual coder and not script monkeys it's not even that bad on the CPU and ram
ashen spindle
asm.js is nice and I guess that kinda counts as JS
timber crest
asm js is outdated, nowdays you simple do wasm
ashen spindle
thought one basically uses the other? not looked too much into that
timber crest
ASM.js was basically the initiator of wasm
but in the end you only compile to bytecode for the JS VM
you can do some optimizations but if you're carefully writing JS you can get same speed results on a application level
Specific computation heavy calcs though benefit greatly from WASM
or when you want to avoid working with JS values, for example for a software renderer
ashen spindle
ah ok, ye somehow thought asm.js literally is wasm just a different name
timber crest
Yeah, you're not alone with that for some reasons a lot of people think that 😛
ivory geyser
Sounds like you found another server full of tech-savvy people Hammster lol
timber crest
😛 i mean i would not write that much otherwise
trim osprey
Would it be theoretically possible to have a mouse daisychained through a keyboard with directx or whatever so it is viewed as one controller so it bypasses the controller and mouse problem
trim osprey
Hm
old marlin
@timber crest no need to do an HDMI mod as long as you have a good converter
best one afaik is the one from digitus, shit availability outside germany though
timber crest
Lucky me is in germany 👍
timber crest
The question though is how is the quality, with a proper HDMI mod, which btw is not really that hard to do on the Atari ST's i can get the direct untouched signal. But due to me still using my CRT it is not really a issue i worry about too much, And i also happen to have one leftover Sony Trinitron
misty saffron
so instead of 0.0012s i need to wait 0.2256s for my simple 3D mesh generator to run
a comparison is flawed if you're not accounting for timer overhead on a time frame this small tbh
timber crest
I mean in general it's flawed since the instruction sets are not the same, so a modern CPU can do many different things in one operation.
and i based this on instructions per second.
but i will still have computation times below 1 s to do the same thing, i would even say most use cases for regular PC users do still work just as fast on a amiga or atari, since they actually made good use of multi-tasking and operate on smaller resolutions. But at the same time, less colors, less res, encoding is a not really accelerated and 12mhz is not enough to properly get video playback running.
And i doubt anyone is determined enough to create a browser for amiga that can render most CSS3 stuff
timber crest
Oh you mean these converters i got a bunch of them, but they really aren't that great for retro computing. It works, but it is often processed by the converter so that colors blend
old marlin
a lot of them are pretty bad
this one afaik is the best
and also handles the highest data rate
timber crest
well testing dosn't hurt it's cheap anyways
old marlin
I think it is 5 euros more on amazon or something
timber crest
nah no worries i order on reichelt and conrad regulary
There are not that many good online shops for electronical building elements anyways
😛
timber crest
https://shop.pimoroni.com/ also has some good deals from time to time
old marlin
oh ok
well if they were from NA you would get import stuff
which almost immediatley makes them not viable over reichelt
timber crest
They send the last package from the swiss
so i assume they have some storage there
though 90% overprices 10% good deals
old marlin
lol
misty saffron
I mean in general it's flawed since the instruction sets are not the same, so a modern CPU can do many different things in one operation.
surely you meant instruction, not operation
timber crest
whoops
misty saffron
and cisc isn't really where it's heading
urban lynx
let's assume i'm interested in buying the next upcoming nvidia top of the line gpu...
should i like pre order one for this "founders edition" i read you talk about?
what is the pro and con of doing that?
should i buy one immediatly? or wait like a month or something to see if they improve something about the gpu's after release production?
ashen spindle
hard to say as we dont know what exactly they will launch and when
as always, wait for reviewers to get cards so we get some data at the minimum
crimson wigeon
Yeah I think of the founders edition cards as being for the megafans
ashen spindle
it's been getting better the last few launch cycles so that might not be the case anymore
but without knowing relative performance/costs, nothing to say but wait for reviews
sep 1st the announcement, a week or two later we most likely get the first 1-3 SKUs, review embargo probably going up a bit earlier, if not we can at least get accurate leaks at that point
final specs are still not certain
crimson wigeon
And that too, you should probably always wait for Mark Bench's word on these things, never get too swayed by hype
ashen spindle
is there a way to convert usb to aux for a mic
I can only find aux to usb
or is that one of these things that wont work that way
pale sigil
I wish there was
frozen anchor
is this what you mean https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Female-Converter-Oxsubor（CAR-Function）/dp/B0794R6YCJ/
idk if it will work though
pale sigil
I was thinking of another adapter oops
ashen spindle
looks correct but its not for using it in a car so that one wont work
as that one says its only for using it in a car
frozen anchor
theres a few others on amazon but yeah they all can only do it for a car
must be some limitation with converting it
frozen anchor
is that xlr?
ashen spindle
ubs to xlr would also work but seems unlikely to exist lol
pale sigil
Forgot the name
frozen anchor
pale sigil
Male a to female b
frozen anchor
"In another example, you can sometimes use a USB-to-aux cable to connect USB headphones to the 3.5 mm headphone jack on a computer. This is usually only possible if the headphones don't require power over USB in addition to an audio signal. "
pale sigil
To xlr would be great
ashen spindle
well its for a mic not a headphone, but same applies I guess
pale sigil
I'll probably just fuckin buy an xlr mic eventually or a mod mic
I'm sick of using a snowball
old marlin
I have a modmic 4 lying around lol
pale sigil
Booo
old marlin
the magnetic pad needs some new glue
frozen anchor
i use this https://www.amazon.com/TONOR-Microphone-Condenser-Recording-Podcasting/dp/B07JMYG6LF/ its really nice to have a mic arm instead of just having it sit on your desk
old marlin
voice quality is kidna bad for the price imo
on the modmic
lol if you pay me shipping and a tenner I'll send it to you
pale sigil
Tempted ngl
Just for gaming
And for talking
@frozen anchor i use a mic arm
Have done for years
old marlin
I do now
AT2020USB+
no regrets
afterm ounting the arm on the opposing side
and under the monitor
ashen spindle
question was for a friends, he got an mixer thing but has only a usb mic guess he's looking for a new mic now
frozen anchor
i dont get how people just buy stuff and dont research it at all lmao
crimson wigeon
Imagine doing research who does that
pale sigil
Lol
old marlin
yup new mic
lol
AT2020 has an XLR version
you will need phantom power though
as with almost any decent mic
ashen spindle
well we did look into it, I pointed out it has aux and xlr input so I guess he forgot or thought he had an aux mic idk
pale sigil
@old marlin whats broke on them
old marlin
on what?
pale sigil
Mod mic
old marlin
nothing
the pop filter is a bit frayed etc
and the sticky stuff on the magnetic pad is not so sticky anymore
used it for over 3 years
actually more like 4
pale sigil
Ah
old marlin
I just really couldn;t stand my headphones being ever so slightly heavier on one side
if yours are not especially light you prolly won't notice though
reef patrol
plush summit
LOL
i was like that
exept everytime i died
i would do 5 pushups
i was doing about 50 pushups a day
frozen anchor
in what game do you only die 10 times
unless you only do it for one or two matches i guess
frozen anchor
hmm looks like a cool game
ashen spindle
ffs I have to put Java on my pc again to build this project for work
wheat plume
Apple: "Not giving a charger plug and cable in the box will reduce e waste"
Also Apple: sends you a wireless keyboard and mouse with their new iMac even though every unboxing I saw is giving them away because they already have them
ashen spindle
... because youtubers doing an unboxing are definitely the majority of actual buyers of the product
wheat plume
I feel its the same
most people who buy it will have had one of the older ones
and they are the same keyboard and mouse
ashen spindle
I doubt majority of imac buyers upgraded from just the last year or so
ashen spindle
and the no charger is because the EU ruled to have standards and apple rather wants to do no cable than do the same
so cant really use a fake argument for another product
wheat plume
no cable or usb C? Apple: "give us no cable"
pale sigil
I'd look a mac
If it was free
I need a new ipad
Hopping to get one next year
My current one turns 3 soon
Could easily get more out of it but me want pencil
pale sigil
It's a sin running osx on none apple hardware
ashen spindle
doesnt really throttle, thats just a meme bc of the overheating laptop
wheat plume
its macOS
fair gull
u mean ios for mac?
wheat plume
basically what Big Sur is
ashen spindle
thanks google, I just wanted the andorid SDK to push an android build of the unity project, didn't know I needed to install android manager and all its bloatware just to get the sdk 🙂
wheat plume
Android studio is only big if you download an Android VM
ashen spindle
it's still 2.5GB of bloat I had to install when I just needed the SDK
wheat plume
true
wheat plume
hmm, I dont really use Siri, maybe Ill turn her on later
Ken 2020
pale sigil
frozen anchor
apple controller when?
wheat plume
Apple tweeting about things you can do any on portable device
ashen spindle
so google should not tweet about it on android because you can do it on apple?
ashen spindle
I have no clue, my point was, apple tweeting about stuff you can do is correct, because people dont know it, otherwise they wouldn't buy ad spots for it
wheat plume
True
pale sigil
No cloud x though 
ashen spindle
oh right, I remember seing on a news site they banned that
pale sigil
Tis why I sent the pic
crimson wigeon
Apple want you to only play the hottest exclusives available exclusively on Apple Arcade
ashen spindle
and also not let the devs use unreal now so rip a big part of new apple games if that goes through
ashen spindle
no you can use the controller, xcloud is block afaik
zenith sonnet
@urban lynx I think it would be silly to buy/order anything before both Ampere and RDNA2 are out and previewed
urban lynx
@zenith sonnet i mean that's my usual thinking, just thought maybe these special editions at the start offer some kind of MUST HAVE advantage
ashen spindle
im pretty sure it doesnt count for amazon
and why do people agree? because the other option is to not make the app at all and make 0$
zenith sonnet
@urban lynx Nope, they don't really offer any advantages other than early adopter's woes
If anything, waiting a while gives you a bettet chance at getting good silicon
ashen spindle
wait wtf when did I get renamed
urban lynx
@zenith sonnet so I'll do it the same way like with cars? gotcha 
zenith sonnet
What's that, wait for the facelift?
urban lynx
for example vw t5, first few productions of those ended up having issues with their mechanical stuff, like gearbox and others that werent a thing in later build version. same model, same looks, slightly improved internal
i mean some brands combine that with face lifts, true
zenith sonnet
I mean, best strategy is to wait for AiB cards gettings reviewed and there being a consensus on what the best models are
But that's some 3-5 months after launch
urban lynx
thing is, it was out of warranty due to the point most of them broke down
just slightly past the warranty distance
but much lower than the usual "breakdown" point
urban lynx
thing is, the t5 is mostly used as a commercial vehicle, not just private.
and in commercial use it's not uncommon if they go past the warranty distance within their first year
plush summit
i wanna see apple get screwed over
urban lynx
on the other hand, i'm not entirely aware of the terms and conditions if you buy as a business, so maybe it actually was warranty
i mean i only knew that they had these issues that needed fixing much too soon
so chances are most of it actually did fall under warranty
i dont read the legal stuff and all, i mostly just hear about the mechanical things, and the cookies and trackers seem to know that
zenith sonnet
Apple needs the cash to justify their 2T$ valuation 
urban lynx
sure do
ngl, everyone telling me that i need to try out apple gets the same response from me:
once it used cost is below the price of a new samsung with newer tech? sure.
zenith sonnet
Got it around launch
urban lynx
i still miss my samsung, but stupidly the cost of the phone i had that broke for me, ROSE in price for some reason
if i didnt need a smartphone for a few things, I'd go back to a nice flip phone myself
zenith sonnet
Would've gotten the OP3T though, had I bought a few months later
urban lynx
i miss the whole flip close dramatically
i assume it would need a connection first though?
vagrant marsh
so, i bought that 49" screen. and every now and then i noticed some ticking happening. like, every few seconds a tick. so i tried to trace back that sound, and it came back from 1 of the corners of my screen. i legit think that is the sound im hearing from the screen expanding and contracting due to the heat and cooling off, respectively.
shadow minnow
I'm not gonna use a product from a company that demands everyone who uses their platform gives them a flat 30% of every transaction
@prisma crag google does similar thing with play store
vagrant marsh
and microsoft store
shadow minnow
Still
This is one of worst reason I heard why someone is not going to use apple product
@prisma crag I mean, sure they can take less, but:
- other companies do the same and some take same amount
- Apple build ecosystem... and also, they check every single app and every single update
-google does sth similar and does not even check every app (some apps with more than 500000 downloads were viruses), and also google does not even create whole device (non google android phones)
Most of people, I mean more than 90% use mostly google play
So what is your problem with apple when others do the same?
Yeah, but why do you not want to buy apple product just because of that?
pale sigil
We having the I hate apple talk again
ashen spindle
why not get them to change it so people who want to use the other parts of it can do so without "theft" instead of full on boycott
shadow minnow
I mean, they can decrease it, but still...
0% also would be unreasonable as they check every update
ashen spindle
nobody asks for 0%, there are multiple options, other ways to get apps, allow other payment methods if the apple one is also offered etc
pale sigil
Me: “I don’t get why people are buying bags that have tik tok on them, you’re paying to advertise for them”
Sister: “Same could be said about your PC stuff”
Welp
ashen spindle
?
crimson wigeon
true
ashen spindle
wait are we talking about bags to carry stuff?
frozen anchor
thats what i thought
pale sigil
Yes backpacks
ashen spindle
so you have an intel backpack or smth?
shadow minnow
Back to carry stuff does not have to be backpack
ashen spindle
I dont get the comparison
urban lynx
i basically have a bag with a company logo on it from a company that is not exactly known for bags.
or anything clothing related
frozen anchor
i only get stuff like that if its free
frozen anchor
kinda stupid to do that unless its actually the best for the price
urban lynx
the only reason i have an evga PSU and an evga manufactured GPU is because the gpu is older than the psu, and coincidence
urban lynx
and i think my board is msi
shadow minnow
But then there are also asus builds that are sponsored
shadow minnow
For example some builds on their Instagram are sponsored
urban lynx
my ram is... what was the name? Ripjaws, G.Skill?
fair gull
i need a proxmox overlord
ashen spindle
so you need a wendell @fair gull lul
fair gull
pmuch
i need to figure out the easiest way to put a persistent live install of proxmox onto a usb/sdcard
ashen spindle
ye that sounds like something you might find on the lv1 forums
vagrant marsh
why would you cosplay a cyclist?
why would you cosplay carrying a gun around?
oh, they are an american team. nevermind.
🤪
wheat plume
y vm no stay at 1920x1080???!!!
vagrant marsh
it goes to the right res but it corrects itself inmediatly
wheat plume
it goes to the right res but it corrects itself inmediatly
@vagrant marsh i want it to stay at proper res
frozen anchor
getting vm res right is so messed up ive never been able to do it
i use vmware and its supposed to work if you install vmware tools
wheat plume
sometimes ity works on its own, sometimes it doesnt and soemtimes it wont let me change it
frozen anchor
i got it to work with xrandr or something
but i couldnt figure out how to make it stay that res on reboot
and bricked my vm
wheat plume
O.o
vagrant marsh
i rightclick on my desktop, go to display settings, and then i can change the resolution without any problems
wanna know why? cause windows works :p
wheat plume
this is a VM
frozen anchor
yeah 1920x1080 is never in options when using a vm
vagrant marsh
it sure is.
wheat plume
yeh it is
vagrant marsh
its a standard res, why wouldnt it be
frozen anchor
you have to set it custom with xrandr or pray your vm has tools that actually work
my vms are all messed up now though and wont connect to the internet
cant figure out why
wheat plume
wheat plume
pale sigil
lol
wheat plume
I have moved from Github to Gitlab!
ashen spindle
ok?
crimson wigeon
Cool
wheat plume
Ive been meaning to for a while
but it threw me off with needing an SSH key to use from the git command
ashen spindle
and you know how all the glab command work compared to ghub or whats the reason for the switch
wheat plume
There is no difference in git commands
other than changing the email with git config
cause im using the private email it gives you in profile settings
ashen spindle
and you still just use it as a backup as if its just google drive I bet
wheat plume
not really, I like not needing to dump my code onto usb when I edit it
ashen spindle
I wrote google drive and not usb stick I think 
wheat plume
yeah
I used to put my stuff onto usb drive after college classes to trasnfer to my laptop to work on it at home :')
it was awful
then I figured out git and github and used that instead
ashen spindle
so whats the reason you now dont like github anymore
wheat plume
I do still like it
ashen spindle
oh so its just your random switch like you switch linux
ashen spindle
..for no reason?
wheat plume
I dont get why you are being so passive agressive about this
wheat plume
I just see it as a more friendly website than Gitlab.
The account settings are better, I wasnt fully sure if commits done via git command would use my email or the provate one on Github
i think they are
crimson wigeon
Git commands work same regardless of where your remote repo is, because git != github / gitlab
wheat plume
^
shadow minnow
Am searching for some TB3/USB C to optical audio output cable, any recommendations, or just any cable you know?
fair gull
Am searching for some TB3/USB C to optical audio output cable, any recommendations?
ashen spindle
Am searching for some TB3/USB C to optical audio output cable, any recommendations, or just any cable you know?
shadow minnow
Internet issues
fair gull
btw what u should be looking for is a usb-c soundcard?
how else would ur pc know that the usb accepts a spdif
shadow minnow
The thing is, that I want to connect MacBook to speaker that has just HDMI ARC and Optical connector
fair gull
ya so ud first need some kind of external audio card that takes usb-c and has spdif
shadow minnow
Do I really need soundcard for that? I mean, macs should be able to output audio though usb c, to things like monitors, TVs... or anything with usb c
So is not there some usb c to hdmi arc reduction?
fair gull
idk if theres usb-c to hdmi arc
but if u want optical ud need a soundcard
smth like the g3
which has optical
if there is usb-c to hdmi which supports arc then that would be viable
shadow minnow
Also, why would I need soundcard, when optical connection is digital
fair gull
i wouldnt know that usb-c directly supports spdif
plus a quick search mostly returns high end external soundcards
shadow minnow
The thing is that I am getting 5.1 speaker system that has Bluetooth, HDMI ARC and Optical, and I want to connect it by wire, cause of Bluetooth audio delay being too noticeable in games.
fair gull
so
either usb-c soundcard
or usb-c to hdmi arc
cause usb-c does directly support hdmi 1.4b
which includes ARC
shadow minnow
Question is if it can be directly connected to speaker
fair gull
that idk
fair gull
was about to ask why they do 9mm
i mean does the apple adapter do 3.5mm optical combo jack?
or just 3.5
shadow minnow
@pale sigil 1. MacBook Pro has 3.5mm jack, 2. Problem - the speaker does not have jack, and even if, 5.1 surround sound would be impossible
fair gull
and u cant directly connect hdmi to soundbar arc it seems
theres some blackmagic going on
shadow minnow
I mean, the speaker system has integrated chip working with surround sound, and MacBook supports up to 8 channel audio on usb c to hdmi. Only question is if usb c can connect to hdmi arc as well
wheat plume
TIL my laptop cant use 5Ghz wifi networks -.-
but my computer which is like 5 years older than it can
ashen spindle
sounds accurate, prob lower power usage etc.
ashen spindle
Any price leaks are useless
ashen spindle
Ignore price leaks
ashen spindle
You obviously aren’t
pale sigil
I’m just saying if it was actually anywhere near 800 I’d cry
fickle ore
just vote with wallet
ashen spindle
Are you though? Without knowing the performance? What if it’s better than the titan rtx by 50%, 800 still a lot then?
pale sigil
Yes
reef tundra
alternate future :Factory burned down prices tripled
pale sigil
800 is 800
ashen spindle
So 800 is a lot if it’s 50% better than a 2500 card?
fickle ore
yes 800$ is a lot
pale sigil
Yes
fickle ore
for nearly everyone for a gpu
reef tundra
800 is pretty much top of the line prices (if not quatro)
pale sigil
clearly not
ashen spindle
But then just get a lower end card, it makes no sense to like/dislike a price without factoring in performance
wheat plume
gitlab wants a different push command to make it work reliably it seems
I had to change it to git push -u origin master
reef tundra
DONT PUSH TO MASTER PLEASE GOD NO NO NO NO
fickle ore
yea 800 for 080 wud be just gouging
pale sigil
980ti 650
reef tundra
titan was more meant for high end number crunching but it can do games as well i guess
pale sigil
GPU market is more retarded than the phone market at this point
fickle ore
It is
reef tundra
agreed
ashen spindle
Can’t wait for big Navi to cost similarly much
fickle ore
People pay 1k yearly for a few fucking fps and they only play couple SP games a year LOL
reef tundra
They cant even count correctly
fickle ore
just like, lower your settings and save 1k
pale sigil
You lag behind unless you waste all your money
Well no
Not true
well
Yes I guess for 1080/60
fickle ore
with the current gaming market as is, buying a new pc is a waste of money anyhow
games have become so bad
pale sigil
I just want 1440/144
ashen spindle
thats quite the statement lmao
reef tundra
after medium settings the visual differences usually get very objective. You might notice them, or you wont
pale sigil
So that’s why I’m going to upgrade
reef tundra
144fps is bae tho
ashen spindle
I'm only at 100hz but UWQHD, I definitely need to lower a lot of settings with my 1080 to get that framerate
pale sigil
Idk about you but it’s very noticeable if you reduce your graphics from high to medium most of the time
reef tundra
Yea, the fps and graphical fidelity are pretty much the give away
fickle ore
thing is
reef tundra
There are settings that do fuck all unless you really look for them
fickle ore
its debatable that 4k low/med settings > 1080p/1440p high/very high settings
reef tundra
That was 1070/1070ti few years ago pricing I remember
pale sigil
Rest of my system I’ll hopefully have saved up
ashen spindle
its debatable that 4k low/med settings > 1080p/1440p high/very high settings
@fickle ore I feel like im missing something, where does this lead to
pale sigil
Saying you can play 4K on low medium and still look as good as 1080p high very high
Which is complete nonsense
reef tundra
4k monitors are quite a marketing thing, only makes sense for text or large screens