New Logitech keyboards
#🔌│tech
zenith sonnet
feral jolt
hmmm
lightspeed wireless keyboard
if you also had a lightspeed wireless mouse would there be any interference?
old marlin
evga finally noticed that their clc lineup didn't have a 360mm one
faint hatch
conan there would not be because of how lightspeed works
zenith sonnet
Lightspeed works flawlessly even with huge amounts of interference
old marlin
but palce the receiver as close as possible still
all problems realted to connection issues that I know of were solved this way
feral jolt
That's pretty cool. Lightspeed has pretty decent range too
I just tried it as far as I could go with the g305
I was only like 12 feet away but that's good enough
I'd need a bigger room or a friend to help to test max range
feral jolt
3.5 meters
ashen spindle
yup, a good tl;dr is: In CPU-bound games you can get a frame faster response, which is 16.6ms at 60 fps, at higher fps it still works if cpu bound but becomes less noticeable
Definitely a great step to make it more enjoyable to play at higher settings than just minimum everything for better results
old marlin
CPU-bound games = every esports title where input lag matters
ashen spindle
you dont play them at 60 fps though
ashen spindle
sure but at some point you need to look if it changes anything, if you have 100+ms of human latency 3ms less make much less of a an impact than 17 do
and for most people it's probably fairer to assume much double the reaction time needed than just 100ms
old marlin
stuff feels more responsive
the XM1 for example feels insanely responsive
shape is unfortunately pretty terrible for me
ashen spindle
not saying it's not making it worse, just a question at what point it makes more sense to focus on other things
zenith sonnet
@fickle ore Got a link?
Anyway, from personal experience I can tell, the responsiveness and smoothness this adds to a game is very noticeable even on 144 Hz Freesync
Also, you need to see 5ms this way:
If you reduce 20-30ms of motion to photon delay to 15-25ms, you're definitely going to notice
sudden glacier
I've seen anti lag work really well on cpu based games
but there's still a downside where the button presses of the mouse and keyboard still seem delayed
crimson wigeon
Waitaminute, that's more like addlag then isn't it
sudden glacier
it helps against mouse movement lag 
but it can't fix the game processing the inputs late
it might depend on the game and it's game engine how that functions
crimson wigeon
But mouse movement is just another input event 🤔
fickle ore
both are processed per frame in most games
crimson wigeon
That overlay is so unreliable, feels like most of the time it never shows up
crimson wigeon
Yurp, in the rare instances it does work it takes so long to show up the first time
crimson wigeon
Meh, it's the only thing that's not really working and it's a very minor loss
And the slow startup I blame on UWP, seems to be a common thing with that platform
warped dove
photon delay?
fickle ore
@zenith sonnet https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/anti-lag-thread.427546/
plush summit
isnt the rule to not use !important ?
timid chasm
Unless it a product your opening to other people, meh. If it's a simple fix for your personal use it doesn't really matter.
zenith mirage
needs more jpeg
old marlin
get a SPC Gear Endorphy cordura Speed XL
will be faster and especially more durable than any cloth pad
pale sigil
to poor
old marlin
rip
old marlin
it is basicaly an asus scabbard, but cheaper
nope
that one is a hybrid mousepad
feels completely different
pale sigil
i spent 8 quid on my current one and had it for nearly 4 years 🤷
only wanna change it cos i want a bigger one
this is a medium size one that lacks height
crimson wigeon
"Task Manager now shows GPU temperature!" Oh cool let's check it out
pale sigil
LMAO
ashen spindle
damn you got the newest amd gpu? 
crimson wigeon
Not yet
fallow bison
what is it
reef patrol
A runic keycap set of course 😄
fallow bison
Bad
reef patrol
reef patrol
spark horizon
if you don't mind the wub par legends you could get wasd caps in runic @reef patrol
or really any language u want
reef patrol
Yeah I know. I like molded ones 😄
spark horizon
ahhhh
i had these done
i dunno if they ever sold the runic pulse ones after the original run ToT they look so cool
feral jolt
I would get these keycaps if I had to share my computer sometimes but didnt want to
It's like a password on your computer that prevents people below 90 iq from using it
reef patrol
I don't know anyone who can't type blind in this day and age. Maybe not symbols, but definitely standard QWERTY
reef patrol
Nerd or otherwise. I don't know anyone who looks at their keyboard while typing.
zenith mirage
I am guilty of that
Sometimes
I'd say like 70% of the time I can get away without looking, but I will occasionally have to take my time typing something out while looking
Despite trying for a couple of years now, I just cannot coordinate myself to touch type with any great degree of speed or accuracy
fallow bison
Same wanger
reef patrol
We're pretty techie here I guess.
old marlin
actually I mostly look at my keyboard when typing, but I don't need to
and learned the ANSI special character layout within like a week
forgot ISO-DE special character layout though
chrome minnow
anybody online who knows c#? how do i convert a float array with 3 values to a vector?
ashen spindle
Vector3 vec3 = new Vector3( array[0], array[1], array[2] );
pale sigil
@chrome minnow
chrome minnow
i cant figure it out
oh ok i was missing using System.Numerics; at the top
thanks @ashen spindle !
Im so used to visual scripting in ue4. I know what I want to get and roughly how it works and Id be able to get it in less than a minute in there.
working with visual studio on c# feels like learning to walk again. with no legs.
ashen spindle
weird that you dont use C++ then, since you then could make use of that in ue4
chrome minnow
working on a different project where i have to use c# 😦
and how do i only use 2 of those array indexes to make a vector2d?
i get "System.IndexOutOfRangeException: 'Index was outside the bounds of the array.'" when i rename the variable type to vector2 and just delete out an array index
ashen spindle
uh sounds like an error with your array
chrome minnow
thing is that the vector3 works perfectly
and vector2 works when i use index 1 and 2
but 2 and 3 it breaks
ashen spindle
erm how many elements are in your array
chrome minnow
3
ashen spindle
so you need 1 and 2
chrome minnow
wait.... i think im missing a space
ashen spindle
array index starts with 0
chrome minnow
ohhhh crap i forgot
thanks!
one last question: is there a performance friendly way to invert one of the vectors' float values?
i know you could multiply it with -1 but that feels inefficient
ashen spindle
for one I dont think there is
but I also am extremely confident that you dont need to pay attention to that level of performance for whatever you are doing lmao
crimson wigeon
Or put a - in front of it
chrome minnow
im having to work with microcontrollers that have to update those vectors super fast😅
crimson wigeon
One would expect the compilerwhatever to optimize the crap out of something common like that anyway..
chrome minnow
thanks!
is there a good site where you can look up those kinda things so i can stop asking around? google did a bad job (with the first question at least)
ashen spindle
the microsoft documentation is pretty good for c#
otherwise stackoverflow as usual
chrome minnow
most annoying thing is that for everything i find i dont know what references are needed
and most of the stuff i find is for unity
now i want to rotate that vector2 by 45 degrees around the z axis... all the stuff i find is for unity or requires other references
ashen spindle
Because c# doesn’t have anything for that you need to do the math yourself
And what are you using if missing references are not shown? Visual studio tells you if one is missing
pale sigil
quite some time now
pale sigil
you get used to it
chrome minnow
@ashen spindle i tried using this: https://stackoverflow.com/posts/28730480/revisions
but i just get a load of errors
also im using visual studio 2017
cannot create an instance of the static class "vector"
'vector': static types cant be used as parameters
pale sigil
use vscode
chrome minnow
whut
pale sigil
timid chasm
I don't think vscode would magically fix an error
pale sigil
Mhmm
All me 😄
For real
I used discord.py
import discord
from discord.ext import commands
### VAR ###
bot_token = ""
target_user_id =
emoji_name = "
##################
bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="?")
@bot.event
async def on_ready():
print("Annoy Mage protocol loaded...")
@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
if message.author.id == target_user_id:
await message.add_reaction(emoji_name)
bot.run(bot_token)
literally all there is to it
im running it on my personal server
this is your curse now
till tmux decides to be a retard anyway
cos its the only application i know that alloys a constant terminal to be run
effort
oh i can
i just cba
i used to do them for backups
nah
pale sigil
wtf
zenith sonnet
Looks pretty good at first glace
Useful, at least, if software and firmware are good
I want hardware level macros
timid chasm
stream deck alternative?
pale sigil
Apple patched an exploit in IOS 12.2
And for some reason in 12.4 they unpatched it
lol
Jailbreak scene is ging crazy
pale sigil
i cant stand IOS 12 and now im stuck with it, what horrible GUI this is.\
timid chasm
Would you say it's an...ooey gooey?
timid chasm
Sounds like an ooey gooey
pale sigil
dats a lotta porn
PNG 👌
jokes aside
i need to clear screenshots more regually
IOS
Android tablets are shite
end of
no
nou
pale sigil
I feel so uneasy having the ability have so many icons on my dock
And having the multi task allow a window over an app instead of just side by side is nice finally
timid chasm
you're late buddy
reef patrol
Didn't they like literally say this wasn't coming a few days ago?
zenith sonnet
Well, it's garbage
fickle ore
I wanna buy RX 5700 XT
ashen spindle
well now you can finally get some nice AiB cards
ashen spindle
if you can get a good cooler for 10$ maybe?
fickle ore
Mm
zenith sonnet
Sapphire Pulse seems to be one of the best models atm
Not sure if there's gonna be a Nitro
zenith sonnet
Reference is best if you wanna stick your own cooler on it
fickle ore
cheaper too
actually gigabyte gaming OC might be good too?
its 3 fan cooler like red devil but idk
cheaper than pulse aswell
ashen spindle
cheaper than pulse? pulse was said to be 10 bucks above MSRP 
fickle ore
yea well
ashen spindle
mhm nice way to put something that wasn't said in the headline for more clicks
zenith sonnet
Why are there no news on the 3950X yet?
ashen spindle
Was about to Tag you yesterday about that lmao, first listings of the 3950x were spotted in a bios/mobo list to support it
Does and have a booth at gamescom? Maybe they’ll give some out here lol
Amd*
zenith sonnet
Is there any other event till September?
ashen spindle
Hotchips is going on rn? Otherwise don’t think so
zenith sonnet
Nvidia is plain copying RIS and Anti-Lag in their new driver
But they can't do FidelityFX, which is the real deal behind RIS
old marlin
nvidia anti lag won't work with intel HT afaik
ashen spindle
Well good think I only have an 8600k 
No and booth here btw, no free 3950x samples 
Amd* fking hate that it still autocorrects amd
ashen spindle
Well none in the entertainment area, business has one but there’s nothing there for me obviously
Nah that’s literally the only time I hate it, makes typing a lot better otherwise
zenith sonnet
Weird
There's got to be something soon
It's almost September, and we don't know a day yet
ashen spindle
Well NVIDIA apparently has a booth lol complete opposite of the last years
zenith sonnet
Well, AMD scared them
They even tried to do something for their users without charging a premium
Except integer scaling
Still need a new GPU for that
ashen spindle
Ah you got a Seat of rtx boxes and of you make a picture of you sitting there and put it in social medial you can win one of the new games that will have rtx support nothing else
zenith sonnet
Lame™
RTX isn't enough of a selling point apparently :p
So they locked integer scaling to the new cards
Weird thing is how quickly they pushed out these things after intel/AMD announced or released them
ashen spindle
Isn’t integer scaling absent on amd cards too?
worn gull
it's absent but highly requested yeah
it was one of their options in amd's poll what we wanted
zenith sonnet
I STILL WANT MY TRUE AUDIO TO TAKE OFF
Well, the only reason to buy Nvidia is if you want 2080 Ti tier performance
Otherwise AMD has the price/performance advantage
worn gull
either that or performance/watt matters a lot to you
because nvidia has better performance/watt still despite amd being at 7nm already
crimson wigeon
and RTX
zenith sonnet
Lol
worn gull
rtx is worth it now because minecraft smh
zenith sonnet
By the time RTRT becomes relevant and widely adoptered, Turing will long be irrelevant
It's a non-feature right now
And until the majority market share supports HW accelerated RTRT, I'll remain an afterthought
You're not going to make a game with two full featured lighting systems, one of which 5% of the players can use
worn gull
never mind actually design your worlds for the lighting to be sufficient and pretty
zenith sonnet
It's like moving from DX11 to Vulkan
worn gull
for 2 systems at once
zenith sonnet
A completey new workflow
It'll not be the 'primary' lighting system in any game soon
Maybe in 2 to 3 years, it'll gain traction
Although, there are already solutions in the works that don't require dedicated hardware
And depending on what HW the PS5 and Scarlet will feature, those may be the ones that actually take off
worn gull
we already know for sure the PS5 will be fully AMD so it will be whatever they bring to the table
I think right now like the only console that doesn't use an AMD GPU is the switch
cause it uses a tegra SoC
aka nvidia
zenith sonnet
Scarlet will also be fully AMD
wheat plume
Now that i have a unity desktop like HUD working on Plasma I may try to make the rest of the desktop have a similar layout to unity
ashen spindle
It would be very nice if both consoles will have RTRT via an api that allows usage of both amd and NVIDIA (and I guess intel) so it will get mich easier to directly implement it into future engine updates
And the AMD Booth is completely closed off if you don’t have a meeting lmao they really only have marketing/industry relation people here
zenith sonnet
inb4 they go out with a bang
ashen spindle
You mean the amd both? No chance that’s deep in the corner of the area normal visitors can’t enter lol
fickle ore
fkin ppl shouldve voted antilag expanded!
well can't complain. atleast amd asks for feedback on driver features, nvidia does not
worn gull
nah man, dem gallery filters 
worn gull
same for stackoverflow
"Hi I'm getting this error doing this in ASP.NET"
- Never mind I fixed it!!
me 
the day gallowboob leaves reddit, half the website will disappear
crimson wigeon
what's a gallowboob
feral jolt
After buying all my stuff for school I'm left with 800 set aside for CPU/mobo/ram
I am thinking x570
still cave
what cpu are you using rn
feral jolt
6700k that overclocks poorly
feral jolt
Yeah that's what I have the money set aside for
zenith mirage
re: gallowboob. Just block posts by him, it makes browsing slightly more bearable
the site is still full of crap posts and commenters trying to be funny but it's something
thick elk
Someone has to do it
worn gull
get all the karma
feral jolt
I wish there was a way to fit a pcie 4.0 ssd into my budget
Maybe if I sold my old stuff
zenith mirage
Somewhat on the topic of reddit, I don't get why people care so much about getting gold on reddit. Seems bizarre to me that people are excited about somebody else paying reddit because they liked a post
I think the most confusing is when people give gold to a link to a trailer or a tweet or something
worn gull
does it do anything?
zenith mirage
I think it does a couple of wee things
worn gull
I browse the reddit front page but I don't even have an account
zenith mirage
Don't know off the top of my head
worn gull
my reddit account, absent from my life just like a wooting keyboard
zenith mirage
I made an account a while back, mainly to ask tech questions. Now I just use it to talk about music
worn gull
oh wait I had a reddit account, to ask path of exile mechanic questions
zenith mirage
Reddit as a platform for content is decent, but man is the "community" just unbearable
zenith mirage
There's worse for sure
But I think "redditors" are some of the most not self aware, unfunny people to be found
worn gull
lmao
zenith mirage
I don't think there's anything wrong about just using the site, but when you start getting into the meta jokes and references etc
That's when the troubles start
fickle ore
are there any cheap pcie 4.0 nvme ssds?
zenith sonnet
There are a few, and they're not much more than equivalent PCIe 3 ones afaik?
Barring the new controller fee, differences are small
faint hatch
qlc yes but there far from reliable
zenith sonnet
To be honest, I haven't really read the reviews yet
faint hatch
tlc is about the same if a little more if you look for those without built in heatsinks
i have its horrible
the 3.0 qlc ones already were terible
once you fill half of it it becomes slower then a hdd 5400 rpm
zenith sonnet
Since when do M.2 drives need heatsinks?
faint hatch
since always
most boards have them built in but usualy if you don't have one they won't reach advertised speed
zenith sonnet
My 950 Pro does just fine without
faint hatch
yea but thats a 3.0
and a good one
not a meh one
also life lasts longer with a heatsink
zenith sonnet
It's gonna outlive its useful capacity amyway
Even my crappy 128 GiB Sata2 SSD from 2009 still works
fickle ore
😄
Im excited about pcie 4.0/pcie 5.0 speeds nvme drives with fast access times
Playing open-world games/mmorpgs
thanfully I got couple years until then
feral jolt
pcie might die within a couple years
and the new 4.0 drives basically have the same random r/w performance as the fastest 3.0 ones so arent that much better
next phision controller should have better random r/w
fickle ore
why would pcie die?
feral jolt
AMD just might go infinity fabric for their next chipset
and openCAPI is closing the gap on PCIe
infinity fabric should be able to support multiple gpu a lot more effectively
zenith sonnet
Infinity fabric instead of PCIe?
Would be awesome - but only viable if it's backwards compatible with PCIe devices
Otherwise you'd need to support two ecosystems for 5 years or more
old marlin
more, sicne intel can't and nvidia won't support it
unless AMD CPUs pick up even mroe
feral jolt
Well opencapi is designed to work with pcie so perhaps infinity fabric could find a way to do the same
warped dove
Facebook really has me advertising-profiled
https://www.logitechg.com/en-roeu/products/gaming-keyboards/g915-low-profile-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html
and then I followed the link and see
faint hatch
i doubt that they would go infintity fabric as its not as good for the distance or the amount of lanes for things like treadripper
warped dove
" €250 "
Caps lock LED but not numlock LED... villainous
Stepped caps lock key, good above / below characters on keycaps, and probably comfy tho. Let's not talk about the scroll wheel.
still cave
Whyd they make it low profile and full sized
The main feature of getting a low profile kb is portability but a bag might not have the space for the width of a full size
warped dove
Is it really?
keyboards are often around 4.5 cm thick and this is probably one of the thinner you'll ever find at 22mm
I doubt that 2cm will help with portability much
I can see wireless being good for portable
Anyway the real answer is probably that they need to justify all the R&D costs of the rich feature set that they needed to make a viable sellable product
so they piled on every feature imaginable to convince buyers that it's worth the necessary pricetag
from extra keys to wireless to big software support to an unconventional switch and a bunch of unique buttons edit*: and dials
old marlin
that keyboard is so overpriced
you can get a logitech wireless keeb with the same tech and a keeb wit the same switches for less
zenith sonnet
You can usually get 40% off Logitech hardware
old marlin
still
zenith sonnet
Dunno, I'd have to look at them seriously
warped dove
Report back to us with what benefits it offers over firefox for addon support and chrome for media compatibility
zenith sonnet
I was able to install an unsigned addon I downloaded somewhere without issues
mental basin
What would be faster a cabled keyboard or a wireless one in terms of latency?
zenith sonnet
(imagus for edge, btw)
@mental basin Depends on the keyboard
There's many more factors than just wireless or cable
zenith sonnet
They're both among the lowest latency keyboards on the market
Wooting probably edges out the Logitech, but Lightspeed is as good as cabled
@warped dove Any media I should try?
mental basin
Well - I know wooting is the fastest in everything else
Just wonder what wootings cable vs wireless fight is
zenith sonnet
Logitech Lightspeed is flawless
Everything else I wouldn't trust, though
Well, Youtube just played an ad
That's odd
warped dove
Well I dont have windows media pack installed so i can only watch some videos on chrome
but chrome handles facebook javascript better too
it's just bloated AF
even with 48gb ram i only use chrome for watching a video on youtube or vimeo or doing facebook and google login credentials websites
fickle ore
@mental basin ofcourse wired, Logitech wireless is still wireless and is capped by transmitter&receiver delay compared to wired
@mental basin The only keyboars for latency sensitive operation I would pick is the steelseries apex hall effect or Wooting atm. Perhaps some custom if you are firmware wizard
feral jolt
I think logitech wireless is limited by usb interface not transmitter delay
old marlin
@feral jolt no, not really, delay is still pretty low
There are lower input delays like on the wooting or a couple of other gaming mice
zenith sonnet
@fickle ore Lightspeed is good enough to consider it on par with wired Logitech devices
old marlin
That is true
zenith sonnet
On the topic of integer scaling
Doesn't any sort of scaling, be it GPU or Monitor, add a noticeable amount of display lag?
fickle ore
I doubt it, it adds some delay ofcourse but gpu should be faster
reef patrol
It might add .1ms or so something for a simple scaler.
ashen spindle
Yeah but in those cases it’s the Display having to work on a frame after it was delivered, the gpu can do that in the normal rendering time, somit shouldn’t add any lag, only on the way of lowering FPS by like single digit or lower %
zenith sonnet
Poor displays add 20ms+ for the scaler
And GPU scaling adds more than a millisecond
ashen spindle
maybe I'm missing something, but since you aren't constantly changing resolutions and really just doing integer scaling, shouldn't it be the same pattern every frame, pixel [1,1] gets duplicated to [2,2] etc.? not something that would take long on a gpu
fickle ore
gpu scaling is in the nanosecond/microsecond range afaik, where is source for milliseconds? I doubt it
and yeah integer scaling should be less costly than other scaling methods
zenith sonnet
The answer seems to be: GPU scaling adds a refresh of delay, some displays can do real time scaling
fickle ore
I very much doubt that
ember socket
so say i wanted to vinyl wrap the keyboard, but I want it to be very very accurate..
create a frame of the negative and make it hold the vinyl and fit on top of it perfectly creating an even lay/compression...?
then again i could just sit for a few hours cutting out each spacing ..
old marlin
That looks insanely shit
zenith mirage
Surely this isn't legit
pale sigil
It’s “supposed” to be a dev kit
zenith mirage
I see
old marlin
The ps4 dev kit looked a lot better
reef patrol
That V thing makes zero sense
zenith mirage
The PS4 devkit looks like a devkit, basic. That V thing looks one of those "PS4" renders from 2009
still cave
that ps5 is the most non rgb "gamer" piece of tech ive seen so far
fair gull
ashen spindle
unless regular = not using script blockers etc.
can only really think of it blocking scripts/elements you dont block with your regular add ons
or maybe your regular connection way has a bottleneck in the path and the route tor takes is faster?
ashen spindle
maker a tracert without tor and see if you have an obvious bottleneck that makes romania path faster
ashen spindle
so have there been any comparisons between amd anti lag and the nvidia low latency mode yet?
cant find any
zenith sonnet
So far I only see Nvidia claiming their solution is superior
reef patrol
Low Latency mode?
reef patrol
Ah... so just removing the buffer.
Talk about anti news in general 😄
ashen spindle
well, if it does the same it basically just means anti lag copied pre-rendered frame and had one further setting
zenith sonnet
What do you mean, copied pre-rendered frame?
ashen spindle
well low latency is what nvidia used to call pre-rendered frames, or smth like that, now they renamed it and added one more setting
zenith sonnet
Well, yeah, the new setting basically copies Anti-Lag and is actually useful :p
ashen spindle
well instead of 1-4 you can now also select 0 is basically what was added and iirc amd never had an option for pre-rendered frames?
ashen spindle
on another note, why tf is microsoft now adding DX12 support for more things to Win7
first WoW now Gears5
now the even give developers tools to do that on their own games
crimson wigeon
Yeah they go to -1, going to the fuuuture
zenith sonnet
Damn, right
I remembered wrong
zenith sonnet
That's what I think
Don't trust Nvidia marketing
ashen spindle
yeah I imagine it to do the same thing, but would like too see some actual reviewers/comparisons
zenith sonnet
Yeah, I think I've read that and temporarily lost memory of it
wheat plume
hmmm...low profile mech switches https://youtu.be/F0LNbWM-Hno
that price :OO freaking hell
old marlin
you can get a logitech lightspeed wireless board and a board with the same switches and rgb for almost 100 euro less
fickle ore
logitech shit is getting ridiculous
wheat plume
in what way?
fickle ore
Components? American components, Russian components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
couldnt resist that quote
wheat plume
oo
fickle ore
but basically the overprice, the design
wheat plume
ahh
fickle ore
looks like logitech is aiming for their products to become premium like apple
zenith sonnet
Logitech is a long way from a 1000$ mouse stand, though 😄
wheat plume
^^
still cave
logitech buying cocaine from that g502 money
faint hatch
logitech is the refined simple tho
so they are halfay there
but i do like my logitech stuffs
tho used i found my key board for like 30 usd
so i will see tomorrow if i gots it if i do then thats the start of my custom keyboard
now to find a hotswap kit
now to find a 112 key hotswap kit
faint hatch
its a full plus 9 macro layout
old marlin
well
faint hatch
its the g910 i have
old marlin
forget macro keys on a custom board if you don't deisgn it yourself
faint hatch
i just need to find a kit don't know were to
old marlin
I think there was a jane version with 1, but only because it copied an old cherry layout with an unused key
faint hatch
its litteraly no modding to the keyboard exept the switches going hotswap
old marlin
i got my ymdk96 kit of aliexpress
faint hatch
so i was prepaird to just order a numpad and a macro pad along but that be overkill for a keyboard
old marlin
macro pads are unnecessary af
faint hatch
depends on wherer
old marlin
the last time i had this someone wanted dedicated macro keys for copy and paste
faint hatch
im not using them for macro's as in a macro setup for single didget macro's
i use them with 5 key combo's so i can keybind them as extra controls
and i was that guy
as i have 3 profiles with a gshift as such 6 profiles
one has all sort of standerd typing macro's other has the 5 key combo's
faint hatch
well i just wan't the bits to turn a keyboard into a hotswap keyboard
i mean i will be making my own chassis so
faint hatch
suck as in there wobbly or ?
old marlin
suck as in not every switch works
faint hatch
okey
faint hatch
a note 9 makes for a great wristwrest with a grip case
for 1 hand
well my keyboard came with a short one that was not that comfy so i got the one from the older 910 which is great for wasd controls and that hand but the other one it has a shorter wristwrest
so i left my phone there and noticed during typing its pretty comfy
i mean most expensive wrist wrest
but still
look up 910
then see
to this
from this
its cliped in
see
thats without
well no
just
its a tall keyboard
and you can fit a wristwrest on top of the short one
tho this was my short one
form not colour
thats a gen 2 rest
other is a gen 1 short rest
i like the disighn and the switches
so its good
just not the best ergo
feral jolt
i just have a thicc deskpad
its over a meter long and 5mm thicc
very comfy and spacious
i guess i dont have a problem with wrist angle then
just want a bit of cushion so its not right on hard desk for hours
are there any tangible benefits to wrist rests besides subjective comfort levels?
faint hatch
i mean i have one of those too but eh
feral jolt
yeah vlc is op
crimson wigeon
Well yeah decent software doesn't really care about the file extension
wheat plume
Lana.potato
solar hinge
Yes, much potato, much Irish @wheat plume
wheat plume
Indeed
neat oriole
VLC is pretty good
Except with x265 4K HDR stuff
You have to change some settings to get it to not stutter
fallow bison
I dont think I've had any problems with that so far🤔
old marlin
might comes down to hardware
fallow bison
I'm psure he has better than an rx 580
reef patrol
MPC HC any day 
timid chasm
mmmmm, love me some mpc hc
zenith sonnet
MPV for me
fallow bison
Windows built in video player😎😎😎😎😎😎
reef patrol
pale sigil
Wait you stutter on 4K stuff for VLC.
crimson wigeon
Yeah VLC is a bit scuffed like that.. it's good at playing whatever you throw at it but not very good at using things like HW decoding
old marlin
just use powerdvd 
ashen spindle
is it possible to run a bash script on a server via a website linke? so lets say I'm calling MyWebSite.com/script.sh and that runs it on the server?
ashen spindle
Basically I need a way to call something on my server, without logging in, that renames and copies a file
ashen spindle
all the results I could find were about calling a url from bash not the other way around haha
reef patrol
😂
neat oriole
It happens on a 1050 and a 2080
pale sigil
oh god
reef patrol
mortal widget
Will wooting make wireless versions of the keyboards too or just make adapters that plug into the keyboard?
pale sigil
not anytime soon
feral jolt
wireless was made for people like me who fill their desks with empty cups and food wrappers
wheat plume
and large dinner plates in my case too
but I dont have any wireless peripherals anymore
zenith sonnet
The space under the Wooting should be able to house a wireless adapter with built in battery
wheat plume
that would be sweet :DD
pale sigil
Hate shit like this
You're clearly bias when you're being paid
It's hard to find any none vias articles
reef patrol
😄
visual sapphire
Can I ask for some help again? 😅
I keep having problems with this happening and don’t know what to do about it 😅
ashen spindle
uhh reinstall drivers, remove overclocks on gpu/cpu if you did anything there, is it always a thing? does pc restart remove it for a while?
could be a cable or monitor issue aswell
visual sapphire
I’ve removed all my over clocks, I checked to make sure drivers were up to date but I guess reinstalling might help. It only does it sometimes. I’ve tried restarting my computer and it did nothing.
Reinstalling drivers didn’t work
ashen spindle
do you have another monitor/cable you could try?
visual sapphire
It’s only there some times
I guess I could try switching cables real quick
I swapped cables and it’s still doing it 😔
timid chasm
My monitor does that
only happens on certain colors. For me it's worst with orange-yellows
Nothing to do with the cable, at least not on my end. It's an issue with my monitor
Mine is a fair bit worse than that one though
visual sapphire
Any ideas on how to fix it 😅
wheat plume
Ohh
I knew someone with that issue
Turned out it was the OS fault
The driversw week fucking up
Drivers were**
ashen spindle
yeah try to figure out what the cause is, or post it on a bigger tech forum, maybe someone will know what the most likely cause is
zenith sonnet
Maybe both cables had the same poor quality?
Low quality cables can cause issues with like WQHD 144Hz and similar
pale sigil
@visual sapphire first step would be deleting black ops 4
ashen spindle
yea its a sale for that kit, us only as far as I can tell
fallow bison
Yea it is
Woah just googling for 32gb, ram prices have really dropped
180 for 3200MHz
plush summit
Now I really just want to buy some ram since it's so fucking cheap... Is ddr5 scheduled to be released anytime soon?
ashen spindle
next year maybe, hard to say
its not as much as when ddr5 is out but when do we get mobo's supporting it
old marlin
don't the epic rome prototypes use ddr5?
ashen spindle
dont think so?
I only know one of the intel platforms "something falls" was shown to have ddr5 as the only platform so far, to my knowledge
Sapphire Rapids, my bad
which is planned 21, probably same timeframe when amd will introduce the new platform, I'd assume am4 wont be able to handle a lot more new stuff for a new generation
still cave
how much was 32gb before
ashen spindle
above 300 depending on what time you are looking at and what timing etc.
feral jolt
I paid 140 a couple years ago for 2666 cl18 ram. Gave it to a friend for free a few days ago
sick creek
not bad on wifi https://www.speedtest.net/result/8537240759.png
finally got my AP ceiling mounted
yea my wired speed is like 900/850ish
depends on the time of day tho
gigabutts
lol
it still blows my mind that i can have 5ms ping to somewhere 25+ miles away
LOL
should be less than 1ms to your router fyi
if its >2 then either your client or the router has a problem
i mean i'm on wifi but 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.220 ms
feral jolt
Fug D:D: cox pls gib me dat
sick creek
haha, cox probably could
their backbone is fiber
but they make too much money selling you comcast-esque rate plans
chocotaco has the best comcast offers and gets like 900 down but only like 50 up (max)
which is so lulzy to me
still cave
who the hell came up with that
mortal widget
Anyone here that has experience with a htc vive, vive index and a oculus rift s?
I really want to get into vr and I'm planning on getting a rift s and was wondering if it was more worth to get than the vive
ashen spindle
index is the best but comes at that cost
vive is nice if you maybe want to upgrade to an index later on, uses the same tracking and you can use the vive controllers (though the index knuckles are the best thing we have currently)
rift s is cheaper but still good, honestly depends on how much you are willing to spend
mortal widget
Well I don't want to spend too much on a headset and don't want a lot of cables running across my room. For example one corner of my room doesn't have an outlet that would be needed for the base stations for the vive and index, yeah I could run an extension cord to it but that would just make it a pain to set it up every time since the room I want to play vr in doesn't have that much room.
If I would've had more room I would go for the vive but since the space issue I'm gonna go for the Rift S
ashen spindle
Yeah if you can’t Position the trackers good the rift s is the best choice
There you only have issues if you like try to do stuff behind your head
mortal widget
Yup I know but I don't think there are any games that need you to hold your hands behind your head except putting stuff on your back like in H3VR for example
ashen spindle
Like it’s good enough for top level beatsaber, just the trackers being in the head limit tracking, but I don’t even know where you would need it behind your head
Most games it’s enough to „grab“ it from behind which the S can still track
mortal widget
I mean I can also play in the living room since I have a laptop with a 1660 ti so it wouldn't be a problem to move it
And to play VR
So it's gonna be the Rift S for me then.
@ashen spindle Thanks for helping btw
ashen spindle
np
pale sigil
Gotta love it when your TV crashes
Modern tech is wonderful
Also have a 800mb update
😄
reef patrol
zenith mirage
Gotta load all that monitoring software
rugged bramble
Twitter
zenith mirage
Cut to him explaining how everyone at Id was on acid when making doom
zenith sonnet
There was news on the Ryzen 3500, but not on the 3950X? :/
old marlin
somebody here knows how these activate?
nvm it apparently is just checks if the stem crosses a lightbar
a version of the gk61 uses the maparently
if any manufacturer besides kailh would make these they wouldn't exist anymore
they protect their clickbar
ye, it is a chinese one
kailh sometimes does some weird oem stuff
there are box whites with pcb mounting pins on one oem board
and that one has a plate
crimson wigeon
Is this it? The 144hz 2560x1440 monitor I've been waiting for that doesn't have some compromise?!
solar hinge
why can't they just have remote controls on monitors?
it's fucking annoying
if you want to change input source, you have to reach for a retarded button or control stick
go into the menu
blah blah blah, nonsense
crimson wigeon
zenith sonnet
Well, it does seem to have fairly poor static contrast
The Aorus, which used the Innulox panel, had excellent contrast (for IPS), but they royally fuck up overdrive
zenith sonnet
The LG manages a perfect no overshoot overdrive with 6ms transition time across the entire 60-144Hz range
And 5ms with quasi unnoticeable overshoot at <100Hz
zenith sonnet
Cool :p
It's the fastest IPS type 144Hz monitor on the market
And to sweeten the deal, it has no overshoot
reef patrol
Sounds pricy and elitist 😄
pale sigil
How is it elitist lol
reef patrol
Xean sounds like an audiophile 😄
pale sigil
Oh
ashen spindle
huh looks like its not even pricy, pretty much the same as you would pay for a similar rog swift monitor or so
zenith sonnet
That's a good idea, I'll have to take note
Most of the time, there's simple fixes, though
Usually involving a bezel that's ever so slightly out of shape
pale sigil
Anyone know the command to allow a user to make new databases
i know i can assign people to a specifc db using
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON * . * TO 'admin'@'localhost';
But idk how to give a user full access to do it as they please
fixed it
zenith sonnet
@reef patrol And yeah, @ashen spindle is right, the display is priced reasonably
Much better than my Foris, at least :p
I do want to pay an additional x amount to get Freesync 2 and HDR600 or 1000, though
There's a XG438Q review scheduled for mid September
4k 120Hz
And it even comes with a remote!
HDR600 and Freesync 2 HDR
reef patrol
Looks good
zenith sonnet
I'm gonna sit this one out :p
ashen spindle
eh, that's only 600 on peak, so not a great hdr experience, VA not isp and its not known what the response time is, and if it would be fast they'd advertise it
zenith sonnet
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about
Thought it's gonna be IPS, since Asus announced something like that a while ago
ashen spindle
it sounds like a "we can do this" and "this" means meeting the technical requirements for certain things
zenith sonnet
Oh
It's probably the Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ I was thinking of
More info in the update
solar hinge
@spiral belfry bam
feral jolt
I dont foresee myself upgrading the x34p until I can get an OLED
ashen spindle
doesnt say anything about VA/IPS and G2G time or did I miss that?
zenith sonnet
Difference in model name is just one char, XG438Q vs XG43UQ
Not sure we have anything on that yet
Should I wait for it?
4k and HDR 1000 are like the only things the LG is missing at all
I doubt it'll match its speed as well
ashen spindle
well, can you run 4k at somewhat decent fps?
zenith sonnet
But it just gotta be fast enough...
ashen spindle
if not no point for it imo
zenith sonnet
If nothing else, it's better for desktop usage, and at the same FPS, a game looks better at 4K than WQHD
zenith sonnet
It's mostly a question of how much settings you need to lower
And FPS is low is mostly limited by engine
There's little a lower resolution can give you there
Plus, you can always do FHD and upscale :p
ashen spindle
sure but upscaling isnt fully there yet
it's good but not as great as native yet
I am kinda hoping the next nvidia gpus next year have better DLSS implementation so a mix of that plus resharping makes upscaling a lot better
zenith sonnet
RIS / FidelityFX
ashen spindle
yea and the new sharpening nvidia released does the same, is even a bit better imo, because you can controll the strength instead of just on/off and works better than DLSS, but I feel like thats mostly due to DLSS not being very mature, and you could combine it even
zenith sonnet
DLSS can't really be used in comparison, I think
It reduces image quality to achieve higher FPS
Whereas sharpening does the opposite
Although the impact is marginal
I like whetstones
ashen spindle
uh, no dlss is supposed to be kinda like super sampling but better performance for not exacty accuracy
also there are different degrees of DLSS but they are even less implemented than RTX lmao
zenith sonnet
Lets just put DLSS in the same drawer as triple buffering and not speak of it again
Until there comes a implementation that works
Like VRR for Vsync
ashen spindle
eh, I doubt Tensor cores are gone next uArch do it will continue to exist and be improved
if only by burte force of having better specialized ahrdware for deep lerning that then produces better results
zenith sonnet
Nvidia probably went ahead and copied and maybe slightly modified AMDs RIS shader, since they went open source on that one :p
But FidelityFX is a whole different beast
zenith sonnet
@reef patrol I might need to help picking parts for my loops one of these weeks
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
Also, nice effects
@reef patrol Any news on the 3950X yet?
There's been nothing but silence since E3
ashen spindle
I feel like even if Mansen knows anything he‘ll be quiet not because of NDA but just to tease you 
On another note, I kinda want GF to win the lawsuit against TSMC because it would most likely mean NVIDIA and others have to stop selling products in the us and Germany
reef patrol
I haven't heard anything - Honestly. It's not breaking an NDA, if I haven't signed one 😄
AMD tend to be pretty tight lipped until they are ready for samples.
zenith sonnet
So, at least 3 weeks off
ashen spindle
or maybe tomorrow who knows https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1166787115168030720
Twitter
ashen spindle
Oh nice, LTT making a video on how to set up Pi Hole is neat, bet a lot of their audience never heard of it
feral jolt
It's weird to me that people actually follow LTT and watch every video
ashen spindle
I mostly watch it as entertainment and obviously skip stuff like reviews and such since there are other channels doing that in greater detail
chrome estuary
i watch linus to see all the cool expensive shit he does when he throws thousands and thousands of dollars into the fucking ether
feral jolt
like when he dropped the fancy xeon server processor?
ashen spindle
well he can just replace it with a epyc for 1/10th the price now 
feral jolt
yeah but it wont have a tiny mobo
zenith sonnet
Would it make sense to wait for TR and build a 16C TR platform instead?
zenith sonnet
@old marlin Remind me again?
zenith sonnet
Lol...
Anyway, 16C TR might be better or worse than 16C Ryzen
But it will have more I/O
What's it gonna be, X599?
Does X570 offer anything X599 won't?
@reef patrol Do we know anything ebout Zen 2 TR yet?
ashen spindle
couple leaks
only offical news is that we get more info later in the year
so it sounds like announcement this year, release next year
ashen spindle
just not worth for amd to use what they could use for epyc for TR now
they finally get big contracts and need to be able to fulfill as much as possible
plush summit
gonna set up a pi hole?
pale sigil
eh i have wanted to for a longggggggg time
and the linus video reminded me of thayt
id rather build a router tbh
than use a pi
but costs
timid chasm
My usb-c cable only enables usb tether from my phone if it's plugged in one way, not both ways lol
timid chasm
Either that cable sucks, usb-c sucks for usb tethering, or my motherboard sucks for usb-c-to-c tethering cause it's way more unstable than usb-c-to usb-a
hyphens
old marlin
it is bigger
the razer edition just added rgb
and it isn't as wide apparently
3 power supplies lol
reef patrol
😂
zenith sonnet
So I was wondering why LCD panel tech advances so slowly compared to other things
And I noticed there isn't really much competition in the monitor market
And it's more about offering minimum features for less money than offering actual enthusiast/high-end devices
It fucking took them over a decade to get the first IPS type panel to run flawlessly at 144Hz (the AU Optrinics one has had that spot alone for 4 years, but it's just one notch to slow, really)
reef patrol
Few manufacturers, only real interest is high end - so fewer customers.
Not much point in pushing 120 or 144hz as the norm, if most customers can't run their games at that.
old marlin
many people asked for good ips with high refresh rate
but most just buy the cheapest available
zenith sonnet
Yeah
I blame lack of proper competition and awareness
I know like 3 sites that benchmark displays? In total?
ashen spindle
then we also have that a lot of monitor makers buy the same panels from the same panel makers so it's less actual competition
then there is stuff like focus on OLED which is cool but not useable as a a pc monitor etc.
zenith sonnet
Should I wait for a 4K 144Hz HDR1000 panel to appear on the market
Or should I pull the trigger on the new LG and get the best WQHD has to offer?
Should make this a poll
ashen spindle
get wqhd
enjoy it now, so when you upgrade in the future you get a bigger upgrade and skip first iterations that have small issues and higher pricetags
zenith sonnet
That's what I'm worried about
Might take another 4 year for something good to come around
But actually, several interesting panels have been announced already
So it might just be one of the few announced monitors that gets there
Give me better options
I dunno how to do polls on discord
There we go
Options for everyone
Pros:
Beats some of the better 240Hz TN film panels in motion handling. Lower lag and better motion handling.
Has overdrive settings that can cover the entire VRR range well. Normal is fast enough for 144Hz, and has no overshoot at all, Fast shaves off another millisecond, and has probably not noticeable overshoot, starting at 100Hz and below
Cons:
Everything else about it is mostly mediocre 🤔
ashen spindle
I mean we cant really help you there, you need to know if you value color accuracy, response time, Hz or something else the most and how much you are willing to sacrifice one for the other
zenith sonnet
Oh right, it does have excellent colour accuracy
Here's another one using the good, old AU Optronics panel
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_tuf_gaming_vg27aq.htm
And overdrive shits the bed again, making it only good at fixed refresh rates
Oh, at least it matches the LG with just under 3ms of total display lag
Alright, alright
I'll get two LGs, and as soon as something pops up on the 4k, 144Hz, 'meaningful HDR' market that fits the bill, I'll get that also :p
I fucking hate hardware
Great, availability end of September 😦
zenith sonnet
Order placed, lets see if I can find a better price, though
Apparently you could preorder them for 80€ less a month ago
timid chasm
So glad to be home for a few days
/s
glad scroll
Meanwhile I thought VR development had stagnated but there is the Oculus Quest 
Don't get me wrong, it has some noticable cons, but it handles and looks much better than you would think
ashen spindle
speaking of vr
glad scroll
The only sad thing is that you are locked to the oculus store games, because it's running android
glad scroll
That does sound promising, but I wouldn't want to tinker too much with it
pale sigil
found the worst website
http://wikigameguides.com/4899-override-frequency-sleeper-node-locations-with-maps-warmind-destiny-2
its so bad
chrome estuary
i have literally never had that happen so this is news to me.