🔌│tech

[zinc mural]

Any nerds

Nerd alert

?

[tribal dirge]

unless its continuous fibers like with the markforged carbon printers

albeit thats completely different

[empty wren]

Higher end materials can still benefit

[tribal dirge]

ah yeah ig

[empty wren]

I got pps-cf parts and they are tough

Had a buddy put one in a vise and clamp down hard on it. Part only dented.

[tribal dirge]

nice nice

[empty wren]

Due note, it was annealed at 200°C for a day though.

[tribal dirge]

they also make a fun clinking sound when you drop them

[empty wren]

What is interesting is the CF actually makes the pitch higher too.

[tribal dirge]

I think thats due to how the CF changes the parts' density

[empty wren]

I see

[iron wave]

I'm not using any of that junk.

[iron wave]

Is there a way to apt reinstall everything?

[empty wren]

Huh

[empty wren]

If you mean klipper related printer items go install kiuah for that

Then you can easily manage it

[iron wave]

I mean everything on a Debian box, a bunch of stuff got corrupted.

apt reinstall '~i'

I guess?

Looks to be working, nice.

[empty wren]

Great

[empty wren]

This may not count but there are some skin based polymer fiber spools. They are sometimes called ultra basically, the bare plastic is skin and inside is filled with glass fiber or carbon fiber.

[tribal dirge]

oh thats super interesting

[iron wave]

That stuff is more spooky to be breathing around.

[empty wren]

It is fairly stable, just uh try not to sand it is all.

[iron wave]

Or ever abrade it.

[tribal dirge]

oooo

[empty wren]

Hella brittle by the way

[tribal dirge]

ah, makes sense tho

[zinc mural]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4byK7

need opinions

Bought everything but GPU and CASE

[bright briar]

woah

[zinc mural]

si

[bright briar]

that list is woah

[zinc mural]

Good way or bad way

[bright briar]

woah

[ashen spindle]

new parts? kinda bad then

[zinc mural]

nice ragebait

[zinc mural]

why

[ashen spindle]

new ddr4 platform in 2026 kinda sucks and if its new these parts are bad value at the prices you can find them at

[zinc mural]

it’s not new ihad bought the 5800x3d in a bundle with ram and mobo for like 220$

Steal

[bright briar]

whats the speed of the ram

[zinc mural]

So 220$
100 PSU
80$ new SSD
Fans 25$

Spent 500$ so far

[bright briar]

and how many gb

[zinc mural]

800 for rest 1300

[zinc mural]

32gb ddr4 3200mhz

[bright briar]

xfx is a good brand

for gpu

[zinc mural]

Iwas gonna go asus but customer support is shitty so

[bright briar]

xfx are nice cards

[zinc mural]

Also the quicksilver has better thermals and I’m trying to build a quiet PC so the quicksilver was a gem

[bright briar]

Fractal Design meshify are good cases

[zinc mural]

too expensive and don’t come with as many fans but I agree

217 was way better in tests I saw

[bright briar]

just choose a case you will like and what accessories it comes with, etc. Obviously make sure the other parts fit into the case

[zinc mural]

Ty bro

Very helpful

Unlike some people

cough @rough patrol

cough

[iron wave]

/dev/root: Can't open blockdev
List of all bdev filesystems:
 fuseblk

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
CPU: 7 UID: 0 PID: 1 Comm: swapper/0 Tainted: G S
Tainted: [S}=CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC
Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product Name/P8Z77-V PRO, BIOS 2104 08/13/2013
Call Trace:
 <TASK>
 dump_stack_lvl+0x5d/0x80
 vpanic+0x24v/0x450
 panic+0x6b/0x70
 mount_root_generic+0x1cf/0x270
 prepare_namespace+0x1d1/0x270
 kernel_init_freeable+0x2d3/0x320
 ? __pfx_klernel_init+0x10/0x10
 ret_from_frok+0x2c7/0x350
 ? __pfx_kernel_init+0x10/0x10
 ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30
 </TASK>
Kernel Offset: 0x7600000 from 0xffffffff81000000 (relocation range: 0xffffffffff800000000-0xffffffffbfffffff)
--[ end Kernel panic = not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) ]--

I have no idea how to fix this, an older kernel works fine in recovery mode and the FSes passed disk check.

(I accidently sent that as two messages....)

[balmy vector]

My microcenter has the hyte persona 3 reload case and ngl i kinda like the look

[iron wave]

Recovery mode isn't needed.

How can I get a list of supported CPUs for Debian kernels?

I'm wondering if they require a newer CPU than this machine has...

[reef patrol]

There is such a thing as asking better questions. Leading with a budget and use case never hurts.

[iron wave]

I just pick the cheapest normal sized case with good airflow.

Including my build with a 5090.

[sudden imp]

So cool

[rough patrol]

?

[sage heart]

Lol ofc he got help he finally said more than

[rough patrol]

Oh its that guy

[sage heart]

Haha yeah, your response is memorized. I will use it someday

[rough patrol]

Yeah idk i woke up and saw a ping that had no context

[craggy harness]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-what-waking-the-late-late-show-with-james-corden-james-corden-gif-17803578

wizard being like that i guess xD

[warm osprey]

When is wooting releasing this as a keyboard

[craggy harness]

you literally just need that absurd W keycap and a few stabilizers and you could turn any keyboard into that

[umbral heron]

Don't even need stabs, switches will hold it up in place

[craggy harness]

true as well, but not every keyboard would allow you to unbind keys at your leisure^^

[umbral heron]

Why would you buy any other keyboard?

[thick elk]

Keyboard seems lacking, no need for those other keys, just make w bigger

[tired sphinx]

w

[zinc mural]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-this-who-is-that-who-is-this-guy-who-is-he-peppa-pig-gif-11375013126139160285

[cerulean arch]

woah

[cerulean arch]

How does the resin allow moisture to pass through?

[tribal dirge]

The carbon fibers themselves tend to absorb moisture

[cerulean arch]

Thats why resin is used in anything CF, GF etc. Its what gives you structure in the first place, and the fibers absorb it and can not absorb moisture thereafter

[bright briar]

Idk how to feel about those new futebol boots that nike made for the world cup. Technology is questionable with the random cushion in it

[tribal dirge]

Oh, well we were talking about carbon fibers in the context of 3D printing composites rather than resin composites.

[cerulean arch]

Is resin not used there?

You need some sealant or else anything you hand handle will put thousands of tiny carbon pieces into your skin

[tribal dirge]

Very rarely in 3D printing at least

[magic minnow]

The fat Samsung fold looks cool

[empty wren]

Carbon fiber raw material not carbon fiber reinforced polymer

[tribal dirge]

yeah lots of micropores

for water to absorb into

[empty wren]

Sadly

[vagrant pagoda]

Just clear coat the final product

[empty wren]

Could sure

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/polymarket/status/2058906308280013129?s=46

Polymarket (@Polymarket)

JUST IN: Pope Leo XIV announces partnership with Anthropic.

X · May 25, 2026, 1:41 PM

[lapis plaza]

What?

[ashen spindle]

just in
week old news

[iron wave]

Man the Pope is nuts.

[cerulean arch]

and how is it printed then? Whats the adhesive?

[tribal dirge]

The plastic polymers sticking to itself because it is melted when it is extruded

Not necessarily the fibers

It's basically grinded up carbon fibers in the material

Not a continuous fiber (although there are expectations to this in FDM printers like the markforged mark 2)

[cerulean arch]

so its plastic and carbon fiber?

[vagrant pagoda]

invest in somethjing based on current news. wait 1 week, ????, profit

[tribal dirge]

It's like plastic with chopped up carbon fibers mixed in yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

replace ???? with anoucing that news as just in a week later

[pale sigil]

Modern pope bruv

You not seen his sick Nikes and everything?

[regal adder]

hi what if disconnect my keyboard while actualisation and now it isnt glowing

[empty wren]

Please use standard British English and try again.

[pale sigil]

Bit rude

But yes it's hard to understand what you mean unfortunately. I suspect you were trying to update it.

[empty wren]

I said please

[pale sigil]

me rn

[fair gull]

why you turning the space heater off

[rough patrol]

me doing that to the whole datacenter when i walk in

[fair gull]

until you notice its actually not all that warm in the dc

[rough patrol]

look, you need some reason to shut down US-East 1

[fair gull]

i mean the most recent way to shut down an AWS region was with missile strikes i believe

[marsh glade]

Somehow I doubt US-East-1 has much in the way of air defenses

Don't think Operation spider's web had really sunk in yet

[halcyon moss]

What's this?

[pale sigil]

Truenas

[halcyon moss]

Told you :p

[pale sigil]

Told me what

[mystic halo]

yo

i need help

look at general

[empty wren]

with what

avoid cross posting

and someone already replied to you

[mystic halo]

im on another keyboard now

i dont see a shit in that picture srry

[empty wren]

it is the reset procedure

[mystic halo]

oh ok

i got scared

[pale sigil]

If you mean server temps and how i wanted to put it in a the cuboard, the temps are fine its just that it was adding heat to my office while im gaming

[halcyon moss]

Yeah. Might not have been you. But I've said this often, less power a System uses the better in hot summers

[pale sigil]

tbh it prob did not even help much but lol my office is 31c atm

so even 1c helps

also i think that was @umbral heron with gen 1 ryzen

[fickle ore]

What the hell this is so cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kObf7-IjEeA

I dont need a new monitor anymore ig

[broken island]

damn

[marsh glade]

New Gamer's Nexus 🥵

[lapis plaza]

Yeah I have seen

I will need several day to watch it

[marsh glade]

I have a "one youtube video during lunch" policy, this'll do just nicely

[jaunty rose]

Guys how funny would it be if I prank my Ryzen 7 5800x3D by installing an RTX 5080 into my pc, it’s gonna be super pissed 🤣

[rough osprey]

man the electric ferrari is ugly

[jaunty rose]

Im looking this up

[jaunty rose]

I mean it looks like a car alright

[rough osprey]

dont

[jaunty rose]

OH

THE FRONT LOOKS AWFUL

[rough osprey]

does it look like a 600k car

[rough osprey]

https://youtu.be/6Reu1WS3BhM?is=C4i6vy0FV-ds8Yi_

[jaunty rose]

Change the front and back and it’d look alright

[fickle ore]

I'm more interested in mortal cars

[pastel galleon]

dawg

[fickle ore]

Skoda Kylaq can be had for 8500€ in india, yet European equivalents are 30k+. Apparently they may be bringing it to Europe for 15k or so

[rough patrol]

why does it look like a sneaker

[surreal thorn]

watched a bit, it really sucks whats happening

[rain charm]

guess a widdle someone won’t be sleeping tonight

[lapis plaza]

I started the video of gamer nexus

Quite heartbreaking how bad the industry is doing

Wouldnt be surprised if 2 years from now some of these companies dont exist anymore

All of this for AI data center 😵‍💫

[lyric hatch]

I just want to upgrade my PC

[tribal dirge]

You mean GeForce Now?

[surreal thorn]

I just want to build a new pc

well i still am, but for garbage price

[pale sigil]

HOLY my rasberry pi is 75c rn

Really did not wanna add a fan again

[ashen spindle]

oh boy is GN really just becoming a tinfoil channel in a month that would be so sad

[gusty kiln]

lol really?

I honestly haven't sat through an entire GN video in almost a year

[unkempt lake]

75c is fine

[zinc mural]

prank your 5800x3d by bending the pins

[ashen spindle]

well I wouldnt say hes quite gone yet but man after the whole blacklist tantrum he had its just getting worse

[rough patrol]

He‘s always had a bit of a weird ego thing with his own importance and a bit of a persecution complex, just that the latter has been validated in some ways (the hardware unboxed thing) and now that american big tech is in the pockets of the current administration he is slightly justified in some of it

But like, i think he really strongly overestimates how big of a deal he is and how much people are out to get him

[fervent valley]

Yeah hes so sure of himself

[rough patrol]

The videos and content are good and i think his team does a good job but steve himself seems like a bit of a mess at times

[fervent valley]

I think one thing that stood out to me was like when someone asked him what system integrator they should buy from and he was like theyre all shit and he only tried like two major ones so i found it a little weird

[ashen spindle]

oh thats fine, they did shop around at all the majory ones and had different issues with all of them

and then some you pay a lot more even if the pc is fine so there generally is no good answer to what SI to buy from

[rough patrol]

I‘m just reminded of the whole ltt thing where like half of it was good, legitimate criticisms of the reviews and egregious errors that needed to be corrected etc, and then the other half was just random personal grievances

[ashen spindle]

yeah that had a point but wasnt handled well

[fervent valley]

Yeah its usually stuff that if you take it at face value 100 percent itll be very inaccurate

[ashen spindle]

ltt still has issues in that regard but so does GN

[rough patrol]

Like, it‘s clear that steve has some sort of hate boner for linus for whatever reason we will never know

That said, i still watch the case reviews and stuff to decide what‘s a good case to buy

[fervent valley]

I shopping around smalelr ones hes right you cant choose parts exactly tho i think the build quality would be decent

At least i hope lol

Tho the cyberpowerpc video was funny cause they let you ship the next day pretty insane

[rough patrol]

Ironically, GN is a perfect companion channel to LTT, you watch LTT for random fun popcorn style videos and GN if there‘s an important review

[ashen spindle]

idk at this point ltt drama isnt even the biggest issue, the anti ai and government tinfoil thing is just sad

[rough patrol]

I mean

[fervent valley]

Whats wrong with the anti ai stuff in your words

[rough patrol]

I‘m more on his side than not on those things

[ashen spindle]

like there is anti ai which is fine and then theres going tinfoil about how nvidia wants to not have you own anything anymore

[rough patrol]

But he does seem to feel like he‘s breaking some big new story when it‘s all kinda just known

[ashen spindle]

which like, no, they want you to buy hardware and then ideally also have GFN subscroptions on top

or acting like big ceos should not do anything with ai anymore, yes ai has downsides but expect nvidia/intel/amd to be anti ai is insane

[rough patrol]

The whole "you will own nothing and be happy" scare is so funny to me

[lyric hatch]

Korean PC stores are wild, configured one for a friend he ordered it and it was built and at his doorstep like 5 hours later

[rough patrol]

Like, you do know you can just stop using spotify right now and go back to buying cds

[ashen spindle]

like, if amd and intel would stand against ai usage the companies would die currently lol

[rough patrol]

Their stock price would yeah

[ashen spindle]

not just their stock

[rough patrol]

And in modern society all that matters is stock price for the shareholders

I cannot wait for this ai bubble to do what bubbles do

[ashen spindle]

no like, take intel for example, if theres no ai demand the company is on the verge of not being able to operate because their data center hardware is just too far behind

so if they take an anti ai stance, we suddenly end up with a monopoly for consumers, great!

[rough patrol]

So many things went down at intel that i so fundamentally disagree with

It‘s actually crazy

[fervent valley]

Yeah most people wouldnt think about that they will see ram price go up ai bad etc

[rough patrol]

I still think pat gelsinger was robbed

[lyric hatch]

Prices will come back down right..

[ashen spindle]

ehh, pat was maybe robbed but also at the same time, he's made so much money, put intel onto a path of potential and gave them a chance

like on one hand he did fix some fab issues, on the other hand, the data center cpu roadmap is still a mess, they have like nothing until 2028 and that one seems only alright so far

[iron wave]

https://hachyderm.io/@davidculley/116636202456102755

David Culley (@[e-mail])

California and Colorado legislated that Linux distributions, being free and open-source, are exempt from the age verification in operating systems, unless they are proprietary like SteamOS (and Windows).

Too bad the systemd developers already complied with fascism in advance before the bills were even finalized.

Will Lennart Poettering and his followers now please remove the birthDate field from systemd?

P.S.: If you reply with any variation of "You need to calm down," I will block you.

gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/colo…

#fascism #surveillance #AgeVerification #Linux #systemd

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Hachyderm.io · May 25, 2026, 4:40 PM

[ashen spindle]

complied with fascism
jesus christ

people really throw that word around too much

[iron wave]

That looks EV.

To be fair, this is an explicit step towards fascism from fascists. But it is getting thrown around a bit more than it should be.

[ashen spindle]

I would agree if it wasnt very obvious that in some cases its at best incompetence

hell some of these alleged age verification bills arent even that

one of the first ones was about having a system prompt that asks for the age at creation, EXPLICITLY not allowing verification via id or anything

so like, the opposite and was putting the work onto parent or guardian to set it up correctly if a child is using it

[iron wave]

Yeah but this type of stuff is almost always expanded to include more draconian things later, one millimeter at a time so it's harder to notice.

[ashen spindle]

as I said, one of them had the explicit step of preventing it, so other bills would not be able to ask for more

it would've basically moved online popups that dont do anything to OS setup time and prevent some of them sites from needing actual verification

[iron wave]

I'd probably disable such a thing anyway, less tracking info.

[iron wave]

Why does Discord keep jumping to this message?

[ashen spindle]

yeah its not ideal but my main point was just that the word facism gets thrown around too easily

especially when we have legit concerns about that currently in the US

[iron wave]

Yet the fascists throw "woke" around more, which is impressive and depressing.

[ashen spindle]

yup

[iron wave]

The new Ferrari has four motors.

[empty wren]

could have just said all wheel drive

[craggy harness]

well, i've seen more engines on the same vehicle 😄

as in a combo of 4 electric engines and 2 diesel engines powering them, let's see who knows what vehicle i'm talking about

[iron wave]

Sounds like a train.

[iron wave]

There are many different ways of doing AWD.

[empty wren]

guessing hypercar, that uses the electric motors for the initial start before motors warm up

is it a semi truck?(just noticed you said diesel

[iron wave]

[empty wren]

my final guess is concept car

[iron wave]

An airplane/similar wouldn't make much sense.

Could be a boat, but that also wouldn't make too much sense.

[craggy harness]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_45.01_(P)

[empty wren]

lol

[craggy harness]

xD

[iron wave]

Ah, a tank.

That says gas.

+

[empty wren]

hmm wires and gas in an armour clad

sounds safe

[iron wave]

But yeah, a sports car with four electric motors sounds awesome.

You can do some really cool torque vectoring stuff with that!

[craggy harness]

wasn't safe at all, heck, the reason it never really made it far beyond prototype stage, it used to go up in flames from just driving around^^

[empty wren]

figured

[iron wave]

I mean.

[craggy harness]

but on paper it was still quite the interesting concept

[empty wren]

so civilians turning into ghost rider?

[craggy harness]

like being about as fast forwards as backwards while not having to do some absurd transmissions can really make a difference, having almost no speedup time as well, especially when re-positioning or retreating

[iron wave]

I still don't know how fast my car can go backwards.

[empty wren]

ask tow mater, he will teach you to drive backwards

[iron wave]

It is interesting that EVs can hypothetically go just as fast backwards as forwards, but you don't want them to because the coolant loops/related are designed for one direction and when they are in reverse they don't work as well.

I have driven backwards though my work parking lot at what felt like ~20MPH.

[empty wren]

in a straight line guessing

[iron wave]

Not really.

[empty wren]

alright then

[iron wave]

It's like this, so yes and no.

But I have cheater cameras on my car so I can see where I am going.

I wonder if there is a file manager for the 3DS that would allow me to access files on my NAS without having to set FTP up.

Doesn't really look like it.

[vivid vine]

Side note don’t mean to change the topic, made it back home today

🍻

[heady hazel]

yes there is i use that one with winscp https://wiki.hacks.guide/wiki/FTPD

[heady hazel]

oh my bad i read too fast its 4am and 29c in here

[iron wave]

Wrong direction and also FTP.

[heady hazel]

yeah i suppose that ftp is the only way, from what i can tell only some legacy version of windows file transfer works besides that

[empty wren]

Finally catching on

[reef patrol]

Thanks but no thanks

[empty wren]

Sms sucks

[reef patrol]

Having to use yet another system also sucks

[empty wren]

Nah not really

Pin is an option

[reef patrol]

SMS works. I know when it happens. Don't need to fix what isn't broken with more systems

[empty wren]

The other systems already are used why not fully utilize them

[reef patrol]

Because I'm not using them

[empty wren]

I wish fido keys were more supported those are true defense

Two fido keys are like two nuclear keys

[empty wren]

It would be your windows login pin

That simple

[bright briar]

I'ma just start going to companies and sell my information. Cut the middle man out

max the profits

clearly my information is worth a lot for some odd reason

[empty wren]

Well for ads

[bright briar]

profit maxxing

[reef patrol]

Ah yes. The one I don't use cause I am not beholden to Microsoft's always online system. Offline accounts only here.

[bright briar]

truly miss the offline accounts

even setting up a vm and downloading windows os i gotta use an online ms account....

just to setup in vm like bruh

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/uJyqq2W1Ogk

Windows 11 is more of a reskin anyways

[bright briar]

ahh yes command prompt coming clutch

ty for this

[empty wren]

I personally do not mind giving my data to Microsoft

I use office, OneDrive and their services

[bright briar]

i mean its just annoying setting it up in vm

[reef patrol]

I mind potentially being locked out of my PC because I'm not online or their authenticator system is down.

[empty wren]

I mean I am able to login into my PC offline

I am able to use it just fine

[empty wren]

Oh I see where the confusion came their authenticator is an option

But not the only one

[reef patrol]

I've had this issue twice over the years with 11. And that was twice too many

[empty wren]

I imagine you can use Microsoft account password or email code

[bright briar]

ngl i hate OneDrive

[empty wren]

I personally do not trust authenticatior apps

[bright briar]

and now Microsoft is locking everything behind a paywall

[empty wren]

Lost access to my university duo authenticator stuff had to go to the university to fix it once and another time had to call them

[bright briar]

cant even edit my own videos that i recorded. ( i would use clip champ for editing)

[empty wren]

I do not like being dependent on others

[reef patrol]

I meant windows login. The screen.

[empty wren]

Oh unlucky

[empty wren]

OneDrive is basically Microsoft version of Google drive

I would not count either having a video or photo editor

I remember on Google drive I used add-ons for html coding for instance

So same deal as your utilization of clip champ

[reef patrol]

I miss the days when I didn't have to tell OneDrive to download everything, and instead assume I'm always online and want to stream files.

On phone it's even worse. I have to specifically select each file to have available always.

[empty wren]

Os fragmentation I guess

Then again a phone is more mobile no

May piss some people off with background drain

[empty wren]

I dislike OneDrive tending to constantly ask on some updates to upload files and desktop to itself

No means no especially with how stuff goes poof

Oh well, least Microsoft does not fook over the design language just cuz they can on their products.

[reef patrol]

Oh that reminds me. The android app is so intrusive. Every time I open it. I have to dismiss at least three different ads/prompts.

No I don't want 365, no I don't want a yearly subscription for 1TB, no I don't want to review the app

[empty wren]

Reviewing the app the feels diabolical

[reef patrol]

Staph! Fr fr

[empty wren]

I may be wrong but I swear I remember reviewing some other apps, and they still prompt for a review🤨

[reef patrol]

[empty wren]

The first popup really is a waste of time

[tribal dirge]

Ugh not Cisco duo

[empty wren]

Did not know Cisco owned it

[tribal dirge]

Yeah they own the whole Duo sso thingy

[pure narwhal]

Yo uh my wooting isn’t connecting, I accidentally unplugged during update and now it’s not turning on

And i restarted my pc to think i could fix but now i am keyboardless and i cant put my pin in

[tribal dirge]

https://help.wooting.io/article/90-how-to-restore-reset-my-wooting-one-or-wooting-two-flaretech

Wait wrong one smh

https://youtu.be/bwnDyB72jxM?si=4Aax0qgCbvzB9rAT

Ok there

Actually fahhh it doesn't matter both work

[umbral heron]

Bro needs to calm down
They made it such a big deal despite the fact that birthDate has been only added to systemd-homed, and I doubt that anyone uses that, besides some corpos that use it for user management

[reef patrol]

First they came for the Corporations, then they...

There's a lot of legitimate concerns about these things. They tend to creep in step by step.

Having only two states do this seems like a drop in the ocean though. I doubt anyone's going to bother setting up special conditions for just that. A country or a collection of them? Sure.

[safe epoch]

My wooting 60he v2keyboard is broken. It's not that the module was broken, but the backspace key was stuck, so I tried to loosen the screw to fix the stabilizer, but I accidentally applied too much force, causing the screw to wear out. Can I get a refurbished?

[modern sky]

It's fucking scary how accurate that is

[marsh glade]

Contact support, we can probably send you some replacement screws

[modern sky]

The buildup for tmp 2.0 landfill wave was there for a while

[safe epoch]

Ok.
But, I can't remove the screw. It's stuck

[covert silo]

Guys I got a Wooting 60 he v2 and now there keyboard with 16k hz should I buy or don’t matter

[fair gull]

16khz what

polling? doubtful

the rest is usually just marketing bla

[craggy harness]

not like 8k hz polling would ever even needed by anyone

[covert silo]

I keep Wooting? Still the best wait for Wooting 60 v3?

[craggy harness]

let me ask you a question in return...
does the 60 he v2 work the way you want it to?

[fair gull]

so i checked videos doing latency tests and idk if it even is actually 16k polled. it performs the same as top 8khz boards

[covert silo]

Does it really

Like same as 60 he v2

[fair gull]

they are both sub 1ms

its not likely you or anyone on the planet can feel the latency difference really

theres also smth to be said about latency vs accuracy/reliability

but thats usually not tested (except rtings they do a test for reliability)

[craggy harness]

heck even 2-3ms wouldn't really be noticeable 😅

[covert silo]

Wait where is 60 he v2 on that I only see 80he

Some people say anything above 1 k is to much

[fair gull]

this was charted before v2 release

[covert silo]

Oh,

[fair gull]

because its basically unnoticable

it comes down to what i personally call "eventuallities"

[covert silo]

It’s same as 80he

[fair gull]

the v2 is slightly better than the 80

[covert silo]

What woot you got

[fair gull]

all of them

i use a 2he regularly

[covert silo]

The Og

[fair gull]

the og would be the wooting one or wooting 2 (not he)

with the optical switches

[covert silo]

I ment first he

Did Wooting have mechanical before he

[rough patrol]

Optical

Wooting‘s been doing analog since day1

[covert silo]

Where they the best ones back then

[rough patrol]

There was not such a focus on numbers and performance back then, it was mostly about features like the analog feature or adjustable actuation point

I‘m pretty sure the big focus on polling, speed and all that mostly came after the release of the original 60he and rapid trigger

[cerulean arch]

16k polling is impossible via current usb controllers btw.

Not the bandwidth, but the controller is the bottleneck

[twilit schooner]

If you've stripped the screw, place rubber band on top of the screw for a better grip, then press a screwdriver into it and try to unscrew. If you manage to remove them, there should be spare screws included in one of the bags in the box.

[crimson wigeon]

Nah it's legit they got it working

[cerulean arch]

If someone advertises 16khz its an immediate redflag

[crimson wigeon]

Why would they lie?

[covert silo]

Can’t 16 k work in motherboard ports

[fair gull]

na you can simulated it already with usb3

[cerulean arch]

True 16khz sustained is not possible

[fair gull]

idk why mchose would be the one to make the first step to more than 8k though

[fair gull]

ive seen usb3 prototypes sustain over 8k

[cerulean arch]

Is this sarcasm?

[cerulean arch]

Show me

Bottleneck are still the usb controllers

[fair gull]

ok travel back in time and i can show you since this was just a bread board prototype

[cerulean arch]

Its not physically possible on the controllers currently used

[fair gull]

at a convention no less

[cerulean arch]

All usb controllers on the market now are not capable of more than 8k

8k is actually right at the limit

[rough patrol]

To have bigger number than wooting and everyone knows bigger number always better product!

[fair gull]

with the default driver stack and the normal polling mode this is correct

but yes lets ignore custom driver stacks and other operation modes usb3 offers

and just stick to usb2

heck idk if anyone ever even played around with usb4 custom driver stacks

[cerulean arch]

Bardoz does a good job of explaining it

https://youtu.be/RxLZyFV0ZQg

We have to go by what is currently in use

[covert silo]

Do any of you think the superstrike is worth it

[fair gull]

so just for the sake of it i tried to find the 16khz section and it doesnt go over that at all

nor can i find a section mentioning usb hardware can only go up to 8khz

[safe epoch]

I'm so scared, can I do it?

[marsh glade]

Wow you really did a number on that screw

[safe epoch]

Yes, I tried to loosen the screw to solve the backspace key malfunction problem, but these two are causing trouble.

[rough patrol]

How in the world

You might be using a wrong size screwdriver

[safe epoch]

Power issue? Everything else is fine.

I think so

[fair gull]

power issue?

you used a drill?

[safe epoch]

No only hand

...

[fair gull]

phew i was concerned for a second

[safe epoch]

SwitchyHeart: Even so, I don't use an electric drill.

[twilit schooner]

Yes, you can use the rubber band

[safe epoch]

OK I'm trying

It doesn't work can I use this?

[halcyon moss]

to do what? cut off the only piece you have to get it out? 😄

[safe epoch]

Because of this two

[halcyon moss]

you can use a flathead, but i dont know how to do that well.

[safe epoch]

OK thank you so much

[lyric hatch]

damn that right screw is like fully stripped

[safe epoch]

I don't know why that is even though I didn't use an electric driver.

[craggy harness]

i'd either suggest a flathead screwdriver or if that won't get enough grip in the screw maybe a drop of hot glue or clear nail paint might fixate it good enough to get them out, if you managed to get them out definitely toss them out and use new screws and from that point onwards check for the correct size screwdriver before fiddling with screws, as in one that fits without wobbling^^

[safe epoch]

I'll try it now, thank you.

[craggy harness]

but yea, if those tries also fail i guess that cutter of yours there might be the only way to get them out if you're careful enough not to scratch the board

just really limit your power to not cut the screw in half or similar 😅

[safe epoch]

I'll keep that in mind.

[halcyon moss]

Yeah... Poorly fitting screwdrivers can strip screws 🙁

[craggy harness]

can? they will (well, unless the screwdriver is soft garbage then the driver will break first)

[safe epoch]

I decided to go to the repair shop.

thank you for helping me

[halcyon moss]

That's a good choice as well

[safe epoch]

Neither the computer repair shop nor the eyeglass shop had the tools available, so I couldn't get it repaired. The problematic part is only the beckspace part, so should I just bear it and use it?

[twilit schooner]

If the backspace key works fine and you don't plan to swap stabilizers in the future, then just forget about it I guess

[halcyon moss]

what? they could not take out a screw?

[vagrant pagoda]

Find a mechanic or machine shop. They sold be able to drill it out with a left handed drill

[cerulean arch]

my bad, i missclicked and linked the wrong video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu4uY1ZEX-s

[umbral heron]

Aaaah, now I get why it's called "3D cache", smart AMD

[safe epoch]

They said one was spinning and the other was worn out. If the method that people told me doesn't work, it's a huge loss, but I'll buy a new one. I will try hard one more time ty

[halcyon moss]

local repair cafe?

[safe epoch]

Yes

The official distributor is very far, taking two hours round trip. In Korea there's only one

[cerulean arch]

you can sacrifice a bit by glueing it to the stripped screw

then it should come out easy

or dremel

[safe epoch]

method didn't work because it was fixed so strongly that it was surprisingly not warped.
That's my bad ..

[old marlin]

maaaaybe a correctly sized flat head can loosen the right screw, otherwise I would try to grip and twist it with pliers to get it loose

[safe epoch]

I tried turning it strongly with Nipper, but it didn't have much effect. I'll give it a try. If that still doesn't work, I'll try soldering it with the idea of changing the substrate.

[safe epoch]

I'll try ty

[old marlin]

soldering won't work

[safe epoch]

OK, thank you for saving me.

[old marlin]

like if all else fails, try to use a saw or a file to get a slit cut in it

but that would be last resort imo

[safe epoch]

Ok, I will keep that in mind.

[sullen bear]

How cant they fix it? Isnt this just drilling the core out?

[fair gull]

this also only goes over the normal driver stack not custom stacks and drivers

which he doesnt say anything wrong

[safe epoch]

Drilling has so much risk...To be honest, I'm worried so I'm considering giving up the Backspace Bar and using the Stabilizer as a stock version.

[sullen bear]

Yeah but that’s what i expect a repair shop to be able to do

[cerulean arch]

Not really

[cerulean arch]

Yea

[safe epoch]

I'm going to ignore the backspace bar and use it. Thank you for your help.

[umbral heron]

2 bay NAS or 4 bay?

[nimble arch]

4

[coarse venture]

the more the merrier

[nimble arch]

Not that you can find 4 HDDs in this economy

[umbral heron]

8TB Ironwolf is now almost 2x more expensive than one I bought 3 years ago

[nimble arch]

Just earn more money lol

[coarse venture]

just time travel 🙄

[marsh glade]

4 bay and then only buy two new drives for it

[umbral heron]

For now it'd have 2 HDDs in it anyway

[gusty kiln]

What did you buy? I was lucky too get my 6 bay for $499 a while back. N95 and 8gb of ram

[vagrant pagoda]

just make it with a old pc

then you can fix it when it breaks

[umbral heron]

I'm looking at QNAP TS-264 or TS-464, has Celeron, so I can host Jellyfin on it as well
They are the same, just that 264 is 2 bay and 464 is 4 bay

[gusty kiln]

Nice

As long as it's not a synology

[umbral heron]

Nah, Synology I want to avoid as much as I can
I had QNAP for 3 years already, solid stuff

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/s/iNtkjyTBhU

@ashen spindle

[ashen spindle]

yeah its insane..ly bad

[vagrant pagoda]

500 bucks fdor a celeron is wild XD

[ashen spindle]

this thing comes out end of the year, mostly as gpu host, can barely tie hand picked turin skus, venice is in mass production and revealed after computex next month

[umbral heron]

Would cost me the same if I were to build a similar PC, so

[gusty kiln]

Also more compact than an old desktop

No need to deal with an sff build too going new

[umbral heron]

Just no idea if I should go for 2 or 4 bays
It will have for time being 2x8TB anyway
And 4 bay is 200€ more expensive

[gusty kiln]

Damn is already computex time... feels lithe CES was only a few weeks ago

[marsh glade]

Wooting gunna be at Computex

[gusty kiln]

How fast is your data hoard growing?

[vagrant pagoda]

you can get a 8500g, 8gb, 2.5g matx and a case/psu for under 500

might be slightly over 500 is you want a tiny itx

[gusty kiln]

I would build if I were making a giga home server

But tiny box for 500 is fine for light stuff

[vagrant pagoda]

thats all new current gen hardware

[umbral heron]

Right now I have a bit over 7TB of stuff

[vagrant pagoda]

if you go used, it would be cheaper

[gusty kiln]

You're not using raid for those 2 8tb?

Already close to max if not

[vagrant pagoda]

the only downside is idle power will be 30w higher

but the 8500g will use less power doing anything intensive

esp encoding

[gusty kiln]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007399/amd-ryzen-5-5500,-gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-ac-r2-am4,-corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-memory-kit,-computer-build-bundle

Crazy deal for a nas build

[umbral heron]

Right now I have 8TB and 4TB in a thick volume, So I'm at around 7 out of 11TB
I'm getting another 8TB because on 4TB one SMART is already screaming at me

[gusty kiln]

No gpu though

[vagrant pagoda]

5500 has no' igpu*

[gusty kiln]

Damn maybe the 4 bay

[pastel galleon]

one of the best booths at computex because ZERO AI

[vagrant pagoda]

hence why i speced a 8500

also no 2.5g

[gusty kiln]

I honestly would go ddr4 intel for a home server

[vagrant pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GnmRvR

[gusty kiln]

But they are getting expensive

Supply drying up

[vagrant pagoda]

cheapest i could get with 2.5g

i always just take my old core compoents and move to nas

[gusty kiln]

Yeah maybe 4 bay, unless qnap expansion unit is not too expensive

[tribal dirge]

wow the 2026 G14 looks really good, no wonder they significantly improved the thermals

[gusty kiln]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1477996-REG/qnap_tr_002_us_2_bay_3_5_sata_hdd.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&smpm=ba_f2_lar&lsft=BI%3A5451&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21413748443&gclid=CjwKCAjwidXQBhAZEiwA4egw6K7XCO1JtOS6buh2FVeyezT53rCv9QbaeWOrr2PwHLfAE3LXTTV6txoCSRkQAvD_BwE

[tribal dirge]

look at the size of those fan intakes

[gusty kiln]

159 for 2 bay expansion

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I'd rather go for 4 bay atp then

[vagrant pagoda]

wild

[gusty kiln]

The unas pro is 7 bays for 450-500

But you'll need a seperate server for dockers/vm

[umbral heron]

Also ARM, so no Jellyfin

[gusty kiln]

Yeah that's where the seperate server comes in

Like a intel mini pc

[umbral heron]

Nyeh, too much hassle
I already host few websites on RPi, would want to move them to NAS as well
I can mount M.2 in 464 for OS and docker stuff

[gusty kiln]

I run unraid on my terramaster box

[vagrant pagoda]

just get a normal pc

[gusty kiln]

My two 1tb wd black ssd are worth like 300 usd now that are in my NAS

Got them for like 70 each

[umbral heron]

I'd go for TrueNAS, I already have some experience with it
But for NAS I want to have plug-n-forget, and so it will be sitting behind TV

[coarse venture]

id say put it infront of the tv what if it gets bored ?

[gusty kiln]

HexOS

[umbral heron]

TS-464 it is

300€

[vagrant pagoda]

why ask for help if you already made up your mind

[umbral heron]

I asked if I should go for 2 bay or 4 bay one, not if I should go for a NAS or PC
I don't want a PC, I don't want to tinker with it, and I don't want for it to take a lot of space, I could do this long time ago from parts I already have
I want it to be small and consume as little power as possible, so dedicated NAS is the only option here, it will host file sharing, Jellyfin, like 5 docker containters, and that's it, going for PC in that case is an overkill

[surreal thorn]

I dont wanna have only 1 2tb ssd cuz i dont want random images on it, but also i dont want to pay even more for something like a hard drive 😭

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah and the celeron is a bad choise for jellyfin unless you barely do encoding. qsv with 8gb of ram on that is going to be 1 or 2 1080p streams before tapping out

[rough patrol]

Github just went down in the middle of my weekly for my semester project

💀

[umbral heron]

If it will be struggling I can always throw in 8GB stick in it, DDR4 SODIMMs are quite cheap

[coarse venture]

isnt a 8gb stick really breakable why would u throw it

[nimble arch]

I prefer to scratch my back with 8GB DDR4 sticks

[coarse venture]

can i have one stick im HUNGRY :(

[vagrant pagoda]

and a jonsbo n2 is like 20% larger, its not like you gotta buy a giant topwer

just wild to spend the same money for somethat that is 10 times slower, and barely upgradeable

[steady sail]

Tbh i do wanna get a smol 2 BAY nas

[umbral heron]

TS-233, I have this one now, small, cheap, silent, works amazingly well

[nimble arch]

I actually killed an old DDR2 stick one by scratching my back with it

[steady sail]

But idk how they perform as a smol Plex server

[umbral heron]

For Plex you want something with Intel CPU then, so it can transcode when necessary

[iron wave]

I use a Quadro for that.

[umbral heron]

I mean, you can do any setup with new-ish GPU/CPU, but Intel CPUs are most energy-efficient for that

[vagrant pagoda]

you know that most amd cpus have igpus now

also the main reason i rec a 8500g is it will even encode av1

[ashen spindle]

working != most energy efficient

[umbral heron]

No very energy-efficient though

[empty wren]

👀

[vagrant pagoda]

um have you not seen the power useage for the 8500g? its one of the most power effient socketed chips you can buy.

[ashen spindle]

yeah no I dont even need to look that up, thats some rdna3 igpu so theres just no way its efficient

[ashen spindle]

yeah that looks bad to me?

[vagrant pagoda]

12th gen is more effient than the 11th in that celeron

[ashen spindle]

the 12600k is a 3 year older desktop chip in comparison?

[vagrant pagoda]

was the same tester, and we are comparing to the icelake celeron

going to have more idel power on a 8500g, but while encoding it will be about equal

intel qsv isnt that power efficent

[ashen spindle]

its not about qsv thats a much older igpu still keeping up lol

if a current gen entry level intel cpu isnt way better I'd be extremely shocked

[umbral heron]

quin, whatcha think, 2 bays or 4 bays NAS?
There will be 2x8TB and one 256G SSD for time being in it

[vagrant pagoda]

the 225 is like 100 bucks more

mainly from mobo. itx 2.5g intel boards are a lot more than amd ones

[ashen spindle]

4 bay is nice because if you ever want to use it for something important you can set up redundancy better

[umbral heron]

Ooooh, I could make a 1TB RAID1 pool for important stuff on the other 2
That's a great idea

[gusty kiln]

How much is the ts464 where you are?

[umbral heron]

About 750

[gusty kiln]

Damn, how much is the terramaster F6-424?

[umbral heron]

770

[gusty kiln]

That's 6 bays for only 20 more

[umbral heron]

That's huge though s

[gusty kiln]

Lol

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what she said XD

[magic minnow]

https://9to5google.com/2026/05/25/motorola-amazon-app-hijacking-behavior/

[steady sail]

Would be a fine start

[rough osprey]

rip nvidia control panel 🤔

[tribal dirge]

you talking about the new game ready driver?

610.47?

[gusty kiln]

@ashen spindle @fickle ore amd might hit 500 today

[ashen spindle]

this bubble makes no sense man

[pale sigil]

Installed revanced on my neighbors phone 😎

[rough osprey]

ye

[tribal dirge]

you can still use it, but they wont be updating it anymore

[crimson wigeon]

Was it even getting any updates? Looks exactly the same as it did 20 years ago

[fickle ore]

true monetary inflation is craaaaaazy

[unkempt lake]

XTX GANG

@umbral heron

[rough osprey]

thats a big version number jump tho

installer looks different too

[pastel galleon]

Intel F SKUs cant transcode right

or can they idk

or was it encode

[magic minnow]

FOMO right now

[umbral heron]

Intel F doesn't have iGPU, so no QSV

[pastel galleon]

I know that means no codec, but does that also mean no transcode?

[pale sigil]

Looks unrealistic XD

[unkempt lake]

Here's 4k

[pastel galleon]

I see my GPU :D

[pale sigil]

Did you drop the

[unkempt lake]

What

[pale sigil]

The 4k one has a lot more GPUs

[unkempt lake]

Cuz i screenscapped

[pale sigil]

Ye so I was asking

[unkempt lake]

Whatever

[pale sigil]

I'm curious what the 3080 has

[unkempt lake]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/007-first-light-performance-benchmark/5.html

@pale sigil

[pale sigil]

Fake news

Is this native

[unkempt lake]

Ye

[pale sigil]

Fake news

[unkempt lake]

Ok

[unkempt lake]

https://www.hifihub.com.br/en/product-launches/moondrop-reveals-hatsune-miku-x-moondrop-mirage-tws-earbuds @umbral heron

@magic minnow @steady sail

[leaden kiln]

old news

[pale sigil]

They are nice

But there were other past ones that were cooler

Impractical af

[lunar elm]

amd hitting 500 and micron pulling a +20% today is bs

[gusty kiln]

@fickle ore nokia also randomly reaching new 10 year high every week now

[marsh glade]

Manufactured waste

[steady sail]

Beautiful

[covert silo]

Yeah but 5080 better in games

[fickle ore]

we cross 500 + nokia closing 100b

lifes good bro

fml steam controller not arriving for poe2 new league launch

[sage heart]

@cerulean arch peep these stable timings

1/2/0 nitro as well

Cant get 1/1/1 tho

Passed 24 hour mt5, 100 runs y crunch, prime95, linpack extreme

Im an animal

96gb is no joke

This was a hard oc

[tribal dirge]

nice

[sage heart]

Even dialed in trfc2 and sb

[surreal thorn]

isnt a godlike a goated motherboard too? idk anything about this but must be pretty difficult

[umbral heron]

That was fast
I got revoked my Gemini license at work and got limited tokens on Claude
Also can't use Claude Code, Codex nor Gemini CLI

[thick elk]

for me the boss mostly said go try things (not officially on a budget but knowing him...) So we ended up with a 5 seat claude code plan for me the standard pro is sufficient for now as I can always do something else. But it do be useful automating things I have no time to actually code tools for.

[umbral heron]

For me it's funny, because just 3 weeks ago we were scolded that we don't use enough tokens

[steady sail]

Bad IT use more AI

[thick elk]

Oh wow, not how it works at all. Let people figure out how to best use it. But hey corpo be corpo

[sudden imp]

Saw an article basically saying how now the squeeze will start for ai

Which makes sense this really unsustainable business model will now need to generate revenue

And when it’s no longer free for college/Highschool students to just cheat Willy nilly their user base will lessen

[lyric hatch]

That's wild

[iron wave]

What ABS should I get?

[lyric hatch]

Double shot

[obtuse moat]

Slammed my wooting60he because it doesn't come with feet and is giving me carpel tunnel my problem is that now the space bar is stiff and i'm wondering how to fix it. thanks

[empty wren]

guessing you dislodged the spacebar keycap from the stabilizer on one side

just push down on the raised side

[obtuse moat]

this helped, thanks. did your wooting60he come with feet or is this something i need to buy

[empty wren]

i am guessing the 60he falters on adjustable fit since it is based on the universal 60 footprint

yeah looks it sadly for you

[obtuse moat]

not a problem i'll have to shop for a different keyboard ig, mainly bought this for the hall effect

thanks again

[empty wren]

if that is the case

get an 80he

[obtuse moat]

does it come with adjustable feet?

[empty wren]

Yep

2.8, 6 and 9

[sullen bear]

For me the handrest is the most important part though

[obtuse moat]

did they come with the keyboard?

[empty wren]

Indeed

[obtuse moat]

and a handrest?!

[sullen bear]

Adjustable feet did nothing until i got the handrest

Cuz ur hands are just too low without em so they’re always straining

[empty wren]

The palm rest has always been standalone sadly

[empty wren]

Depends, I got arm rests on my chair

[obtuse moat]

i'll check it out, i appreciate the help y'all

[sullen bear]

Idk mine dont reach past my desk onto my keyboard

[empty wren]

must have your keyboard on a table plane not a keyboard tray

[sullen bear]

I dont even know what those combinations of words mean

Keeb was just on my desk

[craggy harness]

or an actually complete keyboard, aka the 2he

[sullen bear]

Holy xd

[empty wren]

if you got the space, sure why not

[sullen bear]

That looks awful ngl

[empty wren]

works fine for me currently but 80HE layout feels too big in my opinion

[sullen bear]

How do you rest your hands while on the keyboard?

But its not resting then no?

[empty wren]

i misunderstood hold on

the arm rest is curved anyways

[craggy harness]

why rest it when you can just train your muscles so you won't feel strained anymore?

[empty wren]

not flat, and if you mean away from keyboard i can just elbow my arm rest

it does not work for everyone i get that

a lot people probably do not have chair arm rests or removed them

[sullen bear]

I have arm rests but to me it looks like you have a solid 5cm gap between arm rests and keyboard height wise

So unless you rest your arms with permanent tension angled upwards…

[empty wren]

ah i see, it feels fine for me, and the keyboard is angled upwards anyways

i guess it could be a bit lower, but i have no pain

[empty wren]

i may try to resolve that on a brand new layout though, there are tented keyboards, will be printing a ton of prototypes soon

[empty wren]

just buy polymaker stock, avoid the white one due to titanium dixode making fabricated parts even more brittle

[iron wave]

Oh yeah they have ABS.

I want it for the higher temperature resistance.

[empty wren]

actually

you could do PET and anneal it

if you want color options fine, petg even has better temperature resistance than abs

also mind the fumes

they will cause a headache with abs and asa

[iron wave]

Isn't PET more prone to water issues? I think Voron also explicitly asks for ABS.

[empty wren]

i do not think you will have severe warping issues due to the v0 having a enclosure though

[empty wren]

pet is hygroscopic yes

so is nylon

[vagrant pagoda]

]yeah my dog likes water

[iron wave]

I couldn't remember the term.

[empty wren]

tis fine

you can use abs, just do not expect it to last

there are some questionable things the voron community has done in my opinion

[iron wave]

Eh, worst case I print more parts.

[empty wren]

or that

fleimi reprinted their trident parts

in pbt-pc-gf if i remember correctly

[iron wave]

I really don't want to mess with super hydroscopic materials or materials that have fillers like carbon or glass.

[empty wren]

so with petg

you really just dry it

it really is not that hard

maybe you will reconsider another time

[iron wave]

Maybe later, but not right now.

[empty wren]

fair enough

[iron wave]

I'm finding the want of a big printer though. The Voron stuff is just kinda fun too.

[empty wren]

there are other options out there but vzbot, annex engineering and hevort are pretty ded

voron i think was designed more for apperance rather than anything else

[iron wave]

It seems like Voron is the most active and there's a pretty neat looking multi material project for it.

[empty wren]

ratrig is quite active too

however unlike most of the projects

it is company funded

and then also the community pitches in

[iron wave]

Open?

[empty wren]

if you mean if it is on an open source license it is

i got my printer design in cad

however they sell the kits, so if someone wants to sell kits they need a commerical liscense

[iron wave]

500mm³

[empty wren]

yeah but imma tell you now that sku is trash

it is under built and plagued with issues and on the 4.0 revision they made all the frames even longer and wider

[tribal dirge]

its also because they build them and sell kits but its a RR are pretty decent

they do interesting things

[empty wren]

they are still holding onto 4028 fans when much of nobody else it not

[iron wave]

4028?

[empty wren]

server fan

for part cooling

[iron wave]

So like, the loud high CFM and static pressure fans?

I guess I have more research to do in general.

[empty wren]

more airflow so high cfm

[iron wave]

But I think I need to do this sooner than later, I'm starting to get several projects I'd like to do that needs volume.

[empty wren]

cpap is high pressure

but ass cfm

[iron wave]

Yeah those guys.

[empty wren]

took them long enough to do a steel tube and then they had to put powder coat on it, use a odd profile and it being bent too......

[tribal dirge]

yeah they make interesting design choices

[empty wren]

if you do buy one, like they say on their server get the smallest one you can live with

[tribal dirge]

at least they dont make as bad design choices as Finalmeme

[empty wren]

the 500 will not fit through a door once built

[empty wren]

actually in the past the limit switches they bought and put in kits had backwards adaptor cables and guess what some people got dead mainboards as a result

and i hate to say but idex is a joke

[iron wave]

Might not have room for the 400.

But 300 is just shy of a foot so, maybe fine?

I'll have to do the 3D tape measure thing.

[empty wren]

it has some extra x travel by the way due to forced idex frame and bed is oversized so 330by 330

so you could technically use a slightly bigger pei sheet

[tribal dirge]

it kinda is

[iron wave]

How big of a deal is the Y thing?

[empty wren]

input shaper i was told today is cooked on it, and as one gets further away from calibration it becomes worse....

[empty wren]

hybrid is y assist expect to gain a few kmm/s faster

i am gonna try it on my machine soon

but i think i be removing due to extra complexity for little gain, it makes sense for idex perhaps though two toolheads is more weight

[iron wave]

Yeah that's what it says, I just have no idea how big of a deal that would be.

[empty wren]

uh hold on

[iron wave]

I'm not planning on doing a print farm kr anything, so it feels unimportant.

[empty wren]

there(500^3mm^3

[iron wave]

Some of the new slicer tech seems wild.

[empty wren]

if you mean the color mixing that is using the same technique as inkjet

[iron wave]

It almost looks like the graph was just scaled.

[iron wave]

I mean more like Preflight and such.

[empty wren]

that has such a long way to go🤣

[iron wave]

Yeah, but it has some interesting promise.

[tribal dirge]

thats so cooked

[empty wren]

yeah

but oh well idex 500

[empty wren]

i think that is sorely needed due old code

[iron wave]

I have no idea how to read this.

[tribal dirge]

oh nahhh

[empty wren]

you basically want one peak

the dotted lines can be ignored

[tribal dirge]

higher frequency is preferable as well

[empty wren]

already avaliable elsewhere

[iron wave]

So, a decent chunk better but not insane?

[empty wren]

other peoples stuff, can already run scripts in nearly all fff slicers

[tribal dirge]

basically no real improvement, you can achieve a similar improvement by tightening the belts

[empty wren]

which technically means more belt wear if we want to nitpick

[iron wave]

So don't worry about it, got it.

[empty wren]

but i guess your point is simplier ways to get better results?

[tribal dirge]

depending on the printer design its probably ok given that GT3 is meant to run at way higher tensions than experienced in 3D printers

[tribal dirge]

yeah

[empty wren]

oh no not GT3

[iron wave]

Maybe one day I'll do dual extruder for melting supports but that's the only way I think I'd care.

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/DwhtYL3F1go

12VHPWR Cable strikes again

Melted his 5090 playing 007 First Light

[reef patrol]

[tribal dirge]

lowk im starting to think its a skill issue, I have yet to burn up my 12vhpwr connected GPUs

[gentle osprey]

Me either

[empty wren]

could do indx honestly

[gentle osprey]

but that cable is shite regardless

[iron wave]

?

[tribal dirge]

as long as the connector is fully seated and strain relieved its going to be fine

[iron wave]

The three I have are fine. 🤔

[empty wren]

https://www.bondtech.se/indx-by-bondtech/?srsltid=AfmBOoo-F4BosAmRZUmUY5893C_Sg837kBKYso-2jxh0Cl4bJTPOIK1v

[iron wave]

Ah.

[empty wren]

basically vortek from bambu for the hobbist peasants

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I've never had issue either

[iron wave]

I was thinking something like the palette for colors and a second extruder just for an alternate support material.

[gentle osprey]

Had my 4090 for 3 yrs now

[empty wren]

oh an ams or mmu

[iron wave]

My 3D printer has one, my 4090 and 5090 have one, no issues.

AMS/MMU?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it's just random unluckiness tbh

and part skill issue

[empty wren]

automatic material system or multi material system

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z7DRK7p1miM

[iron wave]

The Box Turtle is what I was thinking without much research.

[empty wren]

so basically a klipper ams

[empty wren]

it does suck the enclosure is seperate though

decent option though since ldo makes kits and turtle crawler did a decent job to make it more user friendly

[iron wave]

Oh, it has changed a lot.

Last time I looked at it I swear it used spool cartridges that you could swap for moisture control.

[iron wave]

Why is there a screen on the toolhead and what does that big tube do? I thought you wanted minimal inertia.

[empty wren]

big tube is for cpap remote part coolign basically

and the screen is a gimmick from btt called konomi

[iron wave]

That sounds excessive for what I'd do.

[empty wren]

some people want flashy stuff

seems like the voron way

not everyone does it that way though

monolith server exists for performance there is also the cringey armchair engineering server

[iron wave]

I wonder if you could use water for cooling, but that would he heavier.

[empty wren]

the hotend?

[iron wave]

Yeah, you could have a little radiator next to the fan with chilled water.

[empty wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857156984150163488/1349251783049875466/PXL_20250312_050701035.mp4?ex=6a1728e4&is=6a15d764&hm=70e5cf20b2c16e6d4a428f67c2d36206bd0036a842316dd6f05794db5b4c4984&

[empty wren]

probably not in a heated chamber

[iron wave]

I mean, PCs are basically heated chambers.

Works for them.

[empty wren]

depends i guess how high ambient is

[empty wren]

such hotends exist like in the video

[iron wave]

There's no upper bound.

[vagrant pagoda]

ive seen liquid cooled hotends, but theyu still use air for part cooling

[empty wren]

well there is another potential issue then do you want the x gantry crashing and causing a leak

[iron wave]

If you pipe water that's like, 10C through a tiny rad I'm sure you could knock a good chunk of heat off. But at that point a hose makes more sense.

[empty wren]

i mean

some hotends can be run passively

like no need for cooling them even...

[vagrant pagoda]

the best option is run water though the X rail and use it as the heatsink for hotend

but then you need all metal linear guides

[empty wren]

https://github.com/tricornhotend/tricornhotend.com

[vagrant pagoda]

you can also turn the x gantry into a water blook for the hot end

thats my plan one day

[empty wren]

what you gonna use for the motion then aluminum rods?

[vagrant pagoda]

no i plan on cooling the entire gantry

not the rail

[iron wave]

I'm just not going to go that crazy yet.

[empty wren]

sounds tricky considering the x gantry is attched to the joiners

[vagrant pagoda]

99% of people never ruyn the flow rate needed for that

most prints are limited by the rapid speed, not print

[iron wave]

For now I just need big parts for basic car accessories and PC bits.

[vagrant pagoda]

big, low detail parts need the most hotend cooling

and the most part cooling

[iron wave]

Eh I can just run it slower or get a bigger fan for now, I don't care much about finish and such at the moment.

[vagrant pagoda]

more heat youj try to put into the filiment the more you have to get out of the hotend and out of the part

[vagrant pagoda]

ik print big shit as blanks for milling

so everything is low detail with big ass layers for strength

[vagrant pagoda]

joiners?

[empty wren]

your x gantry is attached to the y

somehow

[vagrant pagoda]

yes linear rails

[empty wren]

which have a part to attached the carriages to the ends of the x gantry

[iron wave]

Eh, if I need mods I'll cross that bridge. But I don't see why I couldn't just run the extruder a little slower to compensate. Less plastic, less heat.

[empty wren]

aka joiners

[vagrant pagoda]

yheah its all alum

[empty wren]

you definetly could

if anything without the proper heat soaking the plastic

parts are just weak and useless even

industrial machines still print slow for most mechnical strength

[iron wave]

I don't think I need much strength right now.

[vagrant pagoda]

my goal is zero plastic in the moition

for high chamber temp

[empty wren]

that seems easy

[vagrant pagoda]

there are a lot of plastic bits in most stuff

like linear rails are 5x the cose on guides for high temp

[empty wren]

440c carriages?

[vagrant pagoda]

idk the grade but the guides are all stainless with high-temp silicone wiper

[empty wren]

Probably like airtac rails then

Slightly high temp

[vagrant pagoda]

?

[empty wren]

They are higher temperature than standard carriages

But still are plastic

[vagrant pagoda]

no these are zero plastic

200c rated

[iron wave]

What do you guys think about those 2.5D UV printers?

[empty wren]

Eh resin is weak

[empty wren]

So like this.

[iron wave]

But when it's just for surface texture and color it seems fine.

[empty wren]

If you want the high resolution fine

[vagrant pagoda]

they are crn coated though

[iron wave]

I don't mean like SLA.

[vagrant pagoda]

so not silver