🔌│tech

[crisp granite]

using a PMM Aim 8K in the meantime

Blade batch rn
still waiting on mine

[rough osprey]

next batch should be send out soonish lol

[crisp granite]

it's a complete mouse with the Finalmouse falcon module

as base

so no need to gut a razer viper v2 pro

[umbral heron]

Explodey finalmeme, that will be interesting

[rough osprey]

even in silver

[crisp granite]

that actually looks gas

[umbral heron]

Wired Deathadder v3 is like 30€ now

[unkempt lake]

You did

[rough osprey]

wires in 2026

[crisp granite]

honestly
when I cracked open my V2 pro to assemble the v34
the presence of
wires
in my
wireless
device

disappointed me

[gusty kiln]

Any mouse can beat gpx2 battery life without batteries yet

[wheat plume]

....
There's a rumor that Steam Controller will be around $110

[crisp granite]

not half bad price wise considering what you get

[unkempt lake]

I had the first controller

[crisp granite]

cheaper than a scuf-ed scuf

[rough osprey]

shouldnt the new razer

[unkempt lake]

It was meh not interested in buying another

[unkempt lake]

No it kinda sucks lol

[rough osprey]

havent heard about it much since release

[crisp granite]

I mean as unique controllers go

[gusty kiln]

Really? Hmmmmm

[crisp granite]

110 isn't horrific for the price relative to like
idk
xbox adaptive

remember that thing?

[unkempt lake]

I don't think the touchpads will be that much better that the one one and the rest you can find on a 50$cad controller

[umbral heron]

I don't see why it would be that expensive tbh

[gusty kiln]

Custom xbox/ps5 controller are easily over 110

That pros use

[unkempt lake]

You can get a full hall effect or tmr controller for 50 cad lol

[crisp granite]

or the KK3 Max
which I still use

that thing is great

[unkempt lake]

There's a cheaper version now

[unkempt lake]

The battery sucks but the controller is good

The dongle is buggy

[crisp granite]

did you say cheaper?
I thought that was a marketing term for francocanadians

because
yk
we don't exactly pay em white collar wages for blue collar work

/j

[unkempt lake]

@crisp granite https://a.co/d/0ckQqos4

50 cad does basically everything the kk3 did

[crisp granite]

happy with my current KK3 Max lol

[unkempt lake]

omfg

ITS NOT WHAT I SAID

[crisp granite]

I just use it for the occasional bit of gayming

racism

[unkempt lake]

IM SAYING THAT CONTROLLERS HAVE GOTTEN CHEAPER

[crisp granite]

forza

[crisp granite]

happy for you
would you like a cookie?

[unkempt lake]

Which you dont play enough proof is you think the battery life is good

:3

I still like the controller i got it for like 70ish?

But the battery life is the one thing i despise about it

[ashen spindle]

2gb of ram for AI settings obviously

[unkempt lake]

yes

[ashen spindle]

but also there are no price rumors so its probably some random youtube comment that said it

[umbral heron]

[unkempt lake]

Considering lana posted it it's probably a comment on reddit

reliable sources only

😎

[umbral heron]

I still think that the best thing in that controller is triggers and click on the end
Bind throttle to trigger and nitro to full press, amazing

[unkempt lake]

Mine's in a box in my closet

With my steam link

[rough osprey]

xbox controller my goat

[crisp granite]

what other skeletons are in your closet

[unkempt lake]

gulp

[umbral heron]

Dualsense still peak controller
I only use Steam one for racism

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-generated-maga-girls/

Like many medical school students, Sam was broke.

The 22-year-old aspiring orthopedic surgeon from northern India got some money from his parents, but he says he spent most of it subsidizing his licensing exams, and he’s still saving up to hopefully emigrate to the US after graduation. So he started searching for ways to make additional money online.

Sam, who requested a pseudonym to avoid jeopardizing his medical career and immigration status, tried a few things, with varying degrees of legitimacy and success. He made YouTube shorts and sold study notes to other med students. It wasn’t until he started scrolling through his Instagram feed that he landed on an idea: Why not make an AI-generated girl using Google Gemini’s Nano Banana Pro and sell bikini photos of her online?

But when Sam started posting generic photos of a beautiful, scantily clad woman on Instagram, he was dismayed to find that none of the content was hitting. He turned to Gemini for advice. “If you create a generic ‘hot girl,’ you’re competing with a million other models,” it said, according to a transcript Sam provided to WIRED.

Sam says he presented Gemini with a few possible options to help his model stand out, and the chatbot selected one in particular: the “MAGA/conservative niche,” referring to it as a “cheat code.” Plus, it said, “the conservative audience (especially older men in the US) often has higher disposable income and is more loyal.” (A representative for Gemini said, “Gemini is designed not to give a particular opinion unless you tell it to. Instead, it is designed to offer neutral responses that don't favor any political ideology or viewpoint.”)

So last January, Sam created Emily Hart, a registered nurse and Jennifer Lawrence look-alike. On an Instagram account for Emily, @emily_hart.nurse, Sam posted photos of her ice fishing, drinking Coors Light, and shooting off a few rounds at the rifle range, with emoji-laden captions like “If you want a reason to unfollow: Christ is king, abortion is murder, and all illegals must be deported,” and “POV: You were assigned intelligent at birth, but you identify as liberal <clown emoji>.”

Though Sam has never lived in the United States, he became an assiduous student of MAGA ideology. “Every day I’d write something pro-Christian, pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-woke, and anti-immigration,” he tells me.

The grift seemed almost too obvious, but to Sam’s astonishment, he says the account “blew up.”

“Every Reel I posted was getting 3 million views, 5 million views, 10 million views. The algorithm loved it.” he claims. Within a month, Emily Hart had more than 10,000 Instagram followers, many of whom also subscribed to her softcore AI-generated content on the OnlyFans competitor Fanvue. And between Fanvue subscriptions and selling MAGA-themed T-shirts (one sample message reads ”PTSD: Pretty Tired of Stupid Democrats”), Sam estimates he was making a few thousand dollars a month.

“I was spending maybe 30 to 50 minutes of my day, and I was making good money for a medical student,” he says. “In India, even in professional jobs, you can't make this amount of money. I haven’t seen any easier way to make money online.”

Emily Hart is one of a slew of AI-generated hot girl MAGA influencers inundating social media, thanks to technologically savvy young men like Sam capitalizing both on pro-Trump sentiment and Americans’ relative lack of digital literacy.

The influencers are created from a specific template: they tend to be white and blonde, with jobs as emergency responders. (A lot of them are cops, firefighters, or EMTs.) They also incorporate right-wing views into all of their content, railing about immigration or the Epstein files or pronouns while posing in American flag bikinis or MAGA hats—often both.

[marsh glade]

I ain't reading al dat, but I'm happy for you or sorry that happened

[rough osprey]

[reef patrol]

Catfishing, AI onlyfans style

[umbral heron]

Article is behind paywall, so I posted here

[heady hazel]

the stereotype still going strong huh?

[iron wave]

I have an i7-3770K server, is there any way to get it to be able to boot from NVM-e?

Feels like a no.

[gusty kiln]

Other than some jank pcie adapter

[iron wave]

That's not jank or the issue here.

[ashen spindle]

why would it not work? if the cpu doesnt support nvmes a nvme to sata adapter would be fine

[iron wave]

I don't think the UEFI knows about NVM-e.

Could maybe chainload to that open source UEFI? Dunno.

I guess I only need the rootfs on the drive, boot could live on the HDD too.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/4HDXo9dmstQ

[iron wave]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-dual-edition.html

[wheat plume]

What's the dual mean in dual edition?

[iron wave]

Dual 3D cache.

[wheat plume]

Ooooooohhhhhh...
Ok that's cool

[iron wave]

Both CCDs have it instead of only one.

Pointless for most people but I'm probably in one of the few demographics that can actually use it.

[wheat plume]

Oh yeh?

What would it be useful for??

[ashen spindle]

workload that fits into L3

[iron wave]

Linux/game dev/idiot. :-P

[ashen spindle]

if you dont need to go to main system memory you have like 10x speedup for those code paths

[iron wave]

Yeah.

[wheat plume]

Oo

[iron wave]

Can they peer L3?

[ashen spindle]

no

its separate cache domains still

[iron wave]

Figured, that sounds incredibly hard.

[ashen spindle]

but you get quite big uplifts if you have the right code for it

[iron wave]

Yeah it'll be a nothingburger unless you know you need it.

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

I mean that goes for any cpu

[magic minnow]

Time to upgrade

[alpine patio]

oh shit

framework expanded and its now available in my country, they also have a new pro chassis?

[vapid ruin]

since your place is close to mine, it also means I can technically get it too

[alpine patio]

im saved from macos

[umbral heron]

But it's soooo overpriced
Here 16G RAM + 512 Framework 13 Pro costs exactly twice the price of Mac M5 13" 16G RAM 512GB

[vapid ruin]

mac what? Air?

[rough patrol]

[alpine patio]

yea mac is definetly cheaper

[rough patrol]

Framework has always been an expensive option

[umbral heron]

[alpine patio]

but i do really really hate macos

[vapid ruin]

I see

[alpine patio]

and usb c only laptops

[rough patrol]

But i dont think anyone buys framework cause it‘s the best value

[alpine patio]

yea

[bleak merlin]

M5 no asahi

[rough patrol]

On initial purchase

[alpine patio]

ill happily pay that premium

[bleak merlin]

Baller

[alpine patio]

macs are really fking good value

but framework is also decent value compared to anything not apple

laptops are just in that bad of a state

[umbral heron]

I love their approach that everything is replaceable, but that doesn't change that a lot of parts are proprietary, and you will pay for replacement part way more than for repair, and for some you'll be able to buy a whole new laptop

[nimble arch]

Tim Cook is the supply chain king after all

[alpine patio]

they are solid of a reputation rn for me to be fine with it

[nimble arch]

Which allows Apple to release a £600 MacBook Neo which is leaps ahead of any £600 Windows laptop.

[umbral heron]

Asus Zenbook 14 with 16G of RAM, 512 GB SSD and Ryzen 7 is a bit over 1/3 of price of similar Framework

I dunno about FW reputation, all that refusing warranty in EU

[alpine patio]

yea makes sense

id be lying if i said i wasnt buying into the branding

but i think if my laptop died rn, id probably want a macbook without macos and this is what it is

[alpine patio]

how did u get that price for the asus zenbook btw?

cant find it for 1/3 ish

[umbral heron]

I guess just that FW pricing is shite in Poland

[distant tapir]

What's that in real currency (NOK)?

[umbral heron]

25k and 9k

[craggy harness]

for a general idea you can roundabout divide that polish stuff by 4 and you got about the worth in € which isn't too far from US$ either

[alpine patio]

damn that asus is much cheaper over there

[fair gull]

you can cut off the "in Poland" really

you are paying a premium for the simple fact you can replace parts individually (with OEM spares)

if you find the asus laptop even on a slight discount in NL the fw13 is also basically twice the price

[reef patrol]

Yeah... I also gave up on FW very quickly when I was looking for laptops.

Lenovo's own store as well (Yes I know Quin? kept saying you could get discounts for asking, but that wasn't the listed price 😄 )

[loud hemlock]

i have a fw13 and definitely regret the purchase. the display sucks (response times are soooooo slow), trackpad is bad, CPU + battery suck, oh well. but then again macbooks run macos so it averages out

with the new display, trackpad, and panther lake mainboards I suspect I would prefer it over the macbook, but I'm not about to spend that much on laptop parts

[fair gull]

macos has actually grown on me but i also dont do lowlevel firmware stuff on devices.

[umbral heron]

MacOS looks and feels really nice, but I guess I'm not used to it after years with Windows and Linux
Still would pick it over Win11 though

[alpine patio]

man i wish macbooks had a singular usb a port

ill probably be convinced to learn macos if it did

[fair gull]

i use a dock or adapter anyway so to me the usb-c only isnt an issue

just free choice of where to charge lol

[alpine patio]

yea my main gripe is that i just cant use a mouse dongle with a macbook without a dock or an adapter

[umbral heron]

Does mouse have Bluetooth?

[alpine patio]

i guess the gaming mouse and macbook demo dont mix

nah gaming one

wooting mice when

[loud hemlock]

oh it's not even that, my problem with macos is window management mostly

[alpine patio]

i need the tri mode

bluetooth, own adapter and wired

[fair gull]

i mean just replace it with whatever window manager you want. thats what certain software people do in our team

[lyric hatch]

Betterdisplay is pretty sweet but it is paid software and macOS should do better out of the box

[umbral heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_noSVTR08

[ashen spindle]

answer is no

[reef patrol]

omg quin amd shill confirm

[crimson wigeon]

Unbelievable

[bleak merlin]

[marsh glade]

Need to get Dag in here to balance with Intel, Ying and Yang

[ashen spindle]

oh nono im just saying amd pr is the usual incompetent but also steve just needs to take his head out of his ass lol

[nimble arch]

Steve taking himself too seriously with this one

[rough patrol]

steve jumping to conclusions immediately and taking himself too seriously?? i cant believe it

never seen before

[reef patrol]

I dunno. Radio silence for months and being pushed onto some third party marketing company? That does seem intentional, not just incompetent. 😄

But of course he's got a narrative to drive as well

[ashen spindle]

nope, the pr agency in question is one amd has used for ages and does a good job, and plenty of people didnt get a cpu sample for this

and the radio silence for some of these questions is normal since the only answers they could give would be quite bad so you dont answer, they also didnt answer anyone else when it came to the z1 driver question for example

[reef patrol]

I have only one thing to say on the matter.

https://giphy.com/gifs/roosterteeth-rooster-teeth-rtpodcast-l4JyRhSPoOiH0pPfW

[marsh glade]

I'm not at my home computer with my expansive library of memes, but just picture the scene in Zoolander where the two models are walking past each other on the catwalk doing the Blue Steel look but the heads of the actors are replaced with Steven from GamersNexus and Linus from LTT

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/gVUoJdbX8a0.gif

[ashen spindle]

simple solution would've just been sample the usual ones and send a page of here these work games are where you see the most uplift

HUB states they are basically just doing gaming content so I have no clue why they got a sample when amds own marketing in the release trailer was smart enough to show nothing about gaming since its unchanged

[reef patrol]

Preferencial treatment? In my tech space?

It's more likely than you thonk.

[umbral heron]

Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence
And in case of AMD... hoo boy

[ashen spindle]

its not even preferential treatment its just regional PR teams get allocations and if global pr doesnt care enough they can do whatever

hence we have like 4 german outlets that got one

either launch this under the epyc brand for deskop or just make better statements

but hey, now they have a more expensive cpu to compare zen6 against xD

gotta make people get used to seeing higher prices before that launches

[marsh glade]

Thank you

[tribal dirge]

is ts about the 9950X3D2?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[tribal dirge]

yeah idk if I would get it, it consumes a lot more power for minimal gain. especially when the threadripper exists. I feel like the target customer for these are more likely to buy threadripper over the 9950X3D2 anyways

like from a work/simulation perspective

idk I just feel like the uses where you see meaningful benefit in 9950X3D2 is just too niche

[ashen spindle]

cant have vcache on threadripper

[tribal dirge]

fair

[ashen spindle]

also platform cost is massive, you need so much more ram and its the costlier ram etc.

so it has its uses but its a niche

[tribal dirge]

oh yeah, threadripper demands RDIMMs

[tribal dirge]

like what kind of niches?

[ashen spindle]

people that use am5 for work/gaming hybrid, or if you need smaller footprint machines or the code just really wants vcache over ram but epyc doesnt make sense

[tribal dirge]

ah yeah, but I mean, Epyc is server grade, so its very expensive

[ashen spindle]

and also there is no vcache sku on epyc this generation at all

[tribal dirge]

but like, not all specific work stuff will benefit from it though, its only like certain types of processes that will benefit

[ashen spindle]

yes

thats why its a niche

[tribal dirge]

like I can see it help with programmers with virtualization.

or like video editing

or building project code into a bundle

[ashen spindle]

just look at the weird phoronix tests that exist and you can find something

[tribal dirge]

this cpu rendering?

[ashen spindle]

that thing is some fortran thing |

The Xcompact3d framework is a Fortran code for developing high-order solvers for the Navier-Stokes equations in the incompressible and low Mach number (LMN) limits

[tribal dirge]

or something else?

[ashen spindle]

fluid dynamics

[tribal dirge]

oh shit actually, if this is what it excels at, the Ansys software that I use might benefit

like Fluent or HFSS

but need to see testing with ansys software specifically

[tribal dirge]

also damn these computers are way faster than me at doing stokes equations, doing them by hand takes ages and carries too much of a liability to make mistakes LMAO.

im so glad I dont have to do stokes equations by hand anymore

[crimson wigeon]

Fortran huh

[tribal dirge]

LOL

[ashen spindle]

yes the low core count high clock vcache epycs were the most popular for RTL since thats bad code with low threads so this probably has some use cases internally or at other semi companies

[heady hazel]

Turns out tpu is doable im printing a tire for a car model to check but so far minimal stringing if even just a bit of blobbing @empty wren

[pale sigil]

TPU has been an experiment for sure

[empty wren]

Keep in mind it likes to absorb moisture

That said tpu lends itself to excellent layer adhesion

Part of the reason why it is so durable

[heady hazel]

yeah i mean i suspect that my extruder retraction speed at 45mm per second is not fast enough

[empty wren]

https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/retraction.html

[heady hazel]

oh im at 1.5mm maybe thats why

yeah i guess that will do it

[heady hazel]

i expected it to be harder to print than pla but it seems just fine , most of my filament from geetech is fine i suppose crealitys own filament might be wet thats why

[pale sigil]

Creality filament sucks so bad lol

[heady hazel]

it was 5€ but i agree yeah worse than the stuff i buy on aliexpress for 5€ per kg

[heady wagon]

Sup, i was thinking about getting the 60he V2 but i feel like the aluminium version is hella expensive, does anyone know if the keyboard sounds bad with the plastic one or if there are any other problems?

[empty wren]

Plastic tends to sound deeper than metal by the way and will also cost you less. Can always get a metal case later if you feel like it

[heady wagon]

Is there a huge difference between the double shot and the normal keycaps?

[reef patrol]

The...normal Keycaps?

[runic ruin]

is it me or does the middle key of the wooting uwu sound so much better?

also should i activate continuous rapid trigger for gd or nah

[ashen spindle]

@gusty kiln amd broke 300 lmao

[gusty kiln]

[gusty kiln]

I've been trying to find news on why buy nothing concrete

[ashen spindle]

some analysts raising target and then people bought I guess

[gusty kiln]

earnings in a few more weeks

gunna be interesting

[bitter totem]

do any one know how to fix this

[steady sail]

clear your keyboard mate

[smoky parrot]

Clean it and reset to factory settings usually

[bitter totem]

How to do it

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-52JsgdvsA

[smoky parrot]

@sinful quest please post the factory reset picture

[smoky parrot]

Ty

[sinful quest]

it's pinned in general

[smoky parrot]

Ooooh, thanks

[bitter totem]

Ty

[nimble arch]

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/22/google-gemini-powered-siri-2026/

[serene ruin]

Who here knows their way around PCB designing/engineering?

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow

[fickle ore]

how many you own?

[ashen spindle]

not enough lol

[fickle ore]

whats that around 1000?

[ashen spindle]

lmao I wish

[fickle ore]

:3

[ashen spindle]

mostly beacuse I always decided to never put more than 10% of anything into one asset so that would mean if I had 1000 I had a massive amount of other things too lol

[fickle ore]

Same same 😭

I need to check my pie chart if Intel has risen to a too big of a %

[serene ruin]

Ok so personally im a Junior Mech Engineer Student and I just got myself a 3d printer this past weekend, the bambu p2s and will get my experience with working it then practice my own designs after a few of online ones to make sure i can print well.

My main future focus career wise and interest wise is robotics so I want to know how to make any type of machine in terms of just purely mechanical and also automation with potentially AI involved depending on the project.

I want to learn how to make any kind of boards to work with whatever situation I may be put in. I already have a electronic workshop that I do tech repairs for friends/family so I am really good at the assembly/disassembly part of electronics my only lack in knowledge is creating these electronics myself.

Atm idk where to start but looking for a nice roadmap if any with anyone with some kind of experience

Idc how hard it will be imma get it done

[pale sigil]

This box is bigger than it has any right to be.

Wtf

[vapid ruin]

I take over than under anytime for protection

[pale sigil]

Huh

[umbral heron]

RIP, iOS becomes Android

[reef patrol]

Gotta keep the panel safe.

You should see the average 55" TV box these days.

[heady hazel]

its quite big yes

[umbral heron]

It arrived!
This is going to be fun

[pale sigil]

Idk if I'll get time to play around tonight haha

[umbral heron]

Just don't goof like me and don't forget to peel off the protective foil from the screen

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-wait-nathan-fillion-gif-4809231

[heady hazel]

did that on a cpu cooler once... was embarassing

[umbral heron]

But yeah, it warms up a lot with that foil

[pale sigil]

So like

I won't shame you

But like

How

Actually nvm

We all do stupid shit

[heady hazel]

its worse i did the swap with a friend and somehow we both forgot about it , having done it countless of times you just forget

[pale sigil]

Amazing

[bitter totem]

Show boot loader time out

[sinful quest]

make a thread in #1019755933959733258 so we don't spam in here

[bitter totem]

Ok

[thick elk]

Bit late to the party but judging from who did reviews it seems like different regions got different treatments, where europe and australia got wider review samples north america did not.
Starting to dislike Gamers Nexus more and more nowadays

[heady hazel]

at least hes not flying around in a private jet while underpaying his staff

[cerulean arch]

Why?

[ashen spindle]

steves been up his own ass for a while now, more than is justified

[cerulean arch]

I think people take him way too serious

GN still delivers an absolute golden standard in testing methodologies, he is definitely a character but he is also one of the most critical voices of the blatant corruption in the industry and i dont see fault in his personal opinions, he can hold them

[ashen spindle]

I mean if he wants to be treated as a serious journalist, being taken "too serious" isnt really an issue

[cerulean arch]

He makes reasonable assumptions in their latest video, either way i dont see the big deal

[ashen spindle]

also big disagree on the golden standard

the big deal is he makes a grandiose video of how they allegedly got blacklisted for the oh so informative investigative content, when its blatantly obvious the cpu just didnt get sent to more than a handful of outlets

so its fair to clown on him for that rant a bit

[cerulean arch]

Lol what?

[heady hazel]

i mean to me gamers nexus is among the least company biased reviewers which is good , he can be a character which imo is fine

[thick elk]

It's an assumption easily disproven by talking to other reviewers in the US.
Thing called journalism.

[umbral heron]

I think I got blacklisted by AMD too

[cerulean arch]

Whats the point tho? That statement can be true even if others also dont receive samples. Its his opinion.

He has already provided us with INSANE journalistic pieces... let hin stir up some shit, maybe its also just a provocation toward amd?

[lapis plaza]

It’s all about trust. I know GN dont hesitate to criticize the industry

[lapis plaza]

Didnt receive a unit review either

[heady hazel]

me neither clearly im blacklisted despite buying a 2700x anniversary edition

[ashen spindle]

how is it a gold standard when:

1. you take tests like the FFXIV benchmark, which has 5 sections, and you get your fps result by taking 3 sections of them and average it, when those 3 sections arent the most cpu/gpu limited parts so you throw out better data?
2. you select a random overclocked ddr5-6000 ram for every cpu, which happens to be the maximum amd can do, is outside of the amd guaranteed speeds, but below the supported speeds intel can do? so it's neither stock settings, nor is it stable jedec, nor is it the best option for all cpus

[cerulean arch]

6000mt isnt the maximum amd can do tho?

I dont know where to start.

[umbral heron]

Above 6000 can get really unstable

[ashen spindle]

some can do 6200 and a few can do 6400 but those are like 1% samples

[cerulean arch]

For your FFXIV statement, you can voice this criticism and its very likely they will change something if its sensible

[cerulean arch]

6600 is a golden sample

[ashen spindle]

jedec or manual tuning

[cerulean arch]

6400 is not uncommon at all, with very tight timings kinda? Still not anywhere near "golden" for 1:1 mode

[ashen spindle]

we're talking about something you just use xmp on and not do manual tuning since that would allow for 8000 on amd with OC tuning

im talking about just what sticks you can buy

[cerulean arch]

Not in 1:1 mode

[ashen spindle]

if we talk about OC man intel is getting shafted even more

[ashen spindle]

lol no they explicitly decided to do it in this complex way that took me ages to even figure out, and noboy cared when I pointed it out under the video

[cerulean arch]

I might have to list about 100 hours worth of buildzoid for you to get some ram oc education, i have literally never heard someone call 3100MHz mclk golden, thats hilarious genuinely

[ashen spindle]

again, I'm not talking about manual tuning

I am talking about what XMP sticks you can buy and just use

[cerulean arch]

Even more stable because fclk is untouched and timings are loose and voltages too high

And there are no 3100mclk kits anyway

And 6400 kits are like cl 32 loose timings that shit just works on a lot of imcs anyway

[thick elk]

If you start claiming stuff like that your words start to lose value.
Good journalist look at all sides of the argument. Or try to at least, because they know their word carries weight.
If he did check around his peers and they all got the cpu. He had a strong case for being blacklisted and it would have been a real story.
But next time he say AMD or Nvidia did something bad, see no reason to trust his word on that.
Or if he does a big investigation what is to say he doesn't completely miss / ignore evidence that contradicts his point of view.

[cerulean arch]

Why would you blindly trust him anyway? Youre doing the right thing by questioning it and forming your own opinion and thats okay

[ashen spindle]

do you want to argue the point of golden standard for testing or what the simple XMP limit is for the zen4/5 io die

even if its 6600 that wouldnt change much

[cerulean arch]

Its about principle

[ashen spindle]

fine then ignore that part of my comment

its still out of spec for amd, and below the spec for intel and its not even jedec timings so not stock behavior either

[thick elk]

Maybe but if you listen to multiple people doing hot takes you still don't arrive at the truth.
If that's your goal better to focus on people / outlets that do actually try.

[cerulean arch]

If you have valid knowledge of game performance used in their benchmarks, voice it and they will likely change it. That simple

They update the bench range and also ingame testing locations based on feedback often

[ashen spindle]

as I said, I did, they didnt change anything and why would they if they for some unknown reason decided to not just take the benchmark number but make up some convoluted way to average it from 3/5 sections

[cerulean arch]

No one is perfect lol, no one shits on LTT for doing some of the worst testing in history but GN gets put under a microscope? Lmao

[ashen spindle]

you said they are the gold standard

[cerulean arch]

They are

Especially because they listen to criticism

[ashen spindle]

I pointed out things that are very much bad for whats supposed to be a golden standard

[cerulean arch]

And rectifiy

[cerulean arch]

Bro its a single game

[ashen spindle]

yes I dont have every single other game they test to spend my time checking what they do there lol

[cerulean arch]

Me neither

[ashen spindle]

they didnt even include in their 270k+ review that intel included faster ram support and didnt test if that makes a difference

[cerulean arch]

I would argue its easily underestimated how much time goes into benchmarking. Every human only has so much of it and we know that sometimes choices have to be made in favor of actually getting a video out anytime soon while its still relevant vs actually testing every scenario. We have seen this before and we have also seen more in depth testing for frequently requested topics later

[ashen spindle]

bro I'm not saying hes incapable of benchmarking I'm saying its not a golden standard because theres too many flaws

[cerulean arch]

Just because a possible scenario was not tested doesnt mean its a flaw

Do you know how many possible testing factors we could pull out of our ass and expect them to be benched as well?

Why dont they test with process lasso optimizations?

They should include undervolt benches

Etc etc

There are infinite scenarios man, its genuinely not that deep

They have also clearly stated before that they will never dive deep into actual ram overclock because its robs you of a lot of time and is not relevant for most people. Do you know how many weeks it takes me to OC ram? Its fucking insane, they would never get videos out

Just trying 2 different sets of ram profiles per cpu would already DOUBLE the benchmark workload and for proper testing you would have to do way more than just 2

[ashen spindle]

weird how aussie steve was able to do a test with 3 different ram configs in 3 different games at 2 different settings then

and if you dont want to manual OC thats fine I never said they should do that, but why use the same 6000 kit for everything? use jedec if you dont want to OC or the speed that both support or the best you can use

[cerulean arch]

Because xmp/expo is what most people run at?

[ashen spindle]

so why 6000 for intel

why not the 7200 they support as jedec

[cerulean arch]

That i cannot tell you i never OCd on Intel, voice this criticism to gn

[ashen spindle]

they use an overclocked kit, to be slower than what intel supports without even overclocking

intel supports 7200 jedec, that is not OC'd

[umbral heron]

Maybe for baseline? I don't think a lot of users go for 7200, as they can be more expensive than 6000

[pale sigil]

Third thermal right cooler that came with dry thermal paste tubes

How does that even happen

[ashen spindle]

idk, at the time when they started the bench and ram prices where normal 6000 also wasnt the cheapest

but they also dont use a 6000 jedec spec so who knows

point is how could one be the golden standard when theres others that have a higher standard and make that work for the same review timeframe

[analog sinew]

no rain on the thermal paste fields

[gusty kiln]

I mean you get what you pay for, heatsinkmaxxing while fuck all with everything else

[wheat plume]

Would having a black keyboard panel look strange when the rest of the laptop chassis is silver? Cause these new keyboards for the 13 Pro are drop-in for regular 13 too :D
but regualr 13 is silver and the 13 Pro is black

lavender is prettttyyyyy

[ashen spindle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/tsmc-unveils-process-technology-roadmap-through-2029-a12-a13-n2u-announced-a16-slips-to-2027

[pale sigil]

Not at all sketchy Ik

[tropic sundial]

if it works it works

[pale sigil]

It does, the case comes tomorrow so I'll insert, test it boots and bam done since I did os stuff today

[tropic sundial]

[lunar elm]

a 6000 kit can be OC’d to 7200 but it requires knowledge and time

if its 6KC30 A-die it can very well do 8k

[sudden imp]

@umbral heron @pale sigil Idk if this is the same for everyone but the YouTube subscription page now showcases a advertisement first thing 😭

I’m going to switch to brave browser full time until IOS allows side loading

This shall not stand

[vapid ruin]

nudging you to get premium lmao

[sudden imp]

Dude this is crazy

[pale sigil]

I have genuinely never used the subscriptions page

[sudden imp]

Really???

[pale sigil]

Yes

[sudden imp]

I thought that’d be the go to page for most people

[pale sigil]

It probably is

[sudden imp]

Kinda annoyed at the constant advertising on everything, everywhere, all at once.

[bleak merlin]

Something something M but something something ToS

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-everythingeverywhereallatonce-gif-25516405

[dull hollow]

ive been having issues on brave on mobile devices

for youtube sometimes the videos dont load and youd need to refresh the page

[alpine patio]

yea same for a short amt of time

but it works fine now

[sudden imp]

JOHN APPLE add side loading and my life is yours!!!

[dull hollow]

still happens to me

[hasty thunder]

sucks to be a vanilla YT app user

lemme share a secret with you: ||Revanced/RVX||

https://tenor.com/view/ld-ladynha-gif-1680055184516771709

[cerulean arch]

Sad you cant use ReVanced on IOS, its so much better than premium

[umbral heron]

UK big W https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/microsoft-facing-usd2-8-billion-uk-lawsuit-for-overcharging-60-000-businesses-using-microsoft-server-on-other-clouds-azure-users-allegedly-recieved-lower-wholesale-pricing

[plucky tapir]

We just need good European alternatives, we've just been heavily relying on the USA because they seemed sane enough so why spend money on our own stuff but I think it's time.

[nimble arch]

https://www.goeuropean.org/

[rough osprey]

if only we made good stuff

[crimson wigeon]

All these damned rules and regulations make it impossible for us to make good stuff

[rough osprey]

nah

[plucky tapir]

I kinda feel like this about houses, why can't I just put up a shed like they did 100 years ago? 😄

[raw zephyr]

the website takes forever to load and when it loads the filters don't even work 😅

[plucky tapir]

I actually started buying Fazer chocolates instead of Marabou

Food is the easiest thing to change, tech hardware stuff is kinda impossible to replace in many cases.

[old marlin]

we used to make amd cpus in germany

[rough osprey]

we got close to intel factory 😅

but intel...

[old marlin]

There are still fabs being built

[plucky tapir]

GlobalFoundries?

[reef patrol]

I am slowly losing my mind trying to find a Supervooc powerbank for my phone xD

[lapis plaza]

I want an european 5090 for 500 euros

I wonder why europe doesnt produce gpu and cpu

[rough osprey]

we dont know how

we just make machine

[lapis plaza]

I mean there are some people that are competent in tech in europe

What are they doing

[rough osprey]

are u sure

[plucky tapir]

Don't you love proprietary chargers? Afaik most chinese brands don't even support Qi2 wireless charging either.

[lapis plaza]

I heard a lot of mathematic and technical people end up in trading stuff

[rough osprey]

a lot go to the us

[lapis plaza]

Yeah because honestly working in europe is badly paid

[reef patrol]

I sure do. Especially when all of the powerbanks OnePlus makes aren't available in Europe 😄

[lapis plaza]

But you get healthcare

[marsh glade]

And a work/life balance

[plucky tapir]

You'll be fine soon, OnePlus goes bye bye it seems. Maybe we can get Oppo but I prefer OxygenOS over ColorOS.

[lapis plaza]

Also honestly given my health in US I would be either dead or homeless

[reef patrol]

Doesn't help me here and now though, heh.

[nimble arch]

I’ve been looking at getting a Belkin Qi2 charger. There’s a really cool 3-in-1 for charging phone, watch, and earphones.

[rough osprey]

im getting a new charger today

[plucky tapir]

🙏🏻

[plucky tapir]

I also want a Qi2 charger but I want only 1 in 1, I don't have a stupid watch or airpods, I don't want extra stuff just sell me a nice good looking 1 in 1!

[nimble arch]

https://www.belkin.com/uk/p/3-in-1-foldable-magnetic-charger-with-qi2-25w/WIZ037myBK.html

Slightly more for the non-folding version: https://www.belkin.com/uk/p/3-in-1-magnetic-charging-dock-with-qi2-25w/WIZ040myCH.html

[plucky tapir]

I looked at this but it's just a stupid puck:

[rough osprey]

i like my nomad one

heavy thing

[plucky tapir]

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/tjanster-tillbehor/batterier-laddning/laddare/oneplus-supervooc-120w-dual-ports-laddare/856744 can you order from elgiganten?

[reef patrol]

That's a charger, friend. I need a powerbank. 😄

[plucky tapir]

Oh

Yeah

[plucky tapir]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010653689873.html?pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"19"%2C"eval"%3A"1"%2C"fromPage"%3A"search"} Aliexpress maybe then?

Not europe but at least they ship here.

[reef patrol]

Yeah... looking at that now, since Europe apparently doesn't have anything.

[umbral heron]

New distro just dropped, this time in le francais https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix

[plucky tapir]

Make the cursor a baguette and I'm in

[nimble arch]

🥖

[crimson wigeon]

Magnifique

Of course hosted on murican infrastructure

[umbral heron]

Even government account is not safe from anime avatars

GNOME: a serious, professional desktop environment"
also GNOME:

[nimble arch]

I'm a KDE guy myself

[sudden imp]

iOS user 🙁

[tribal dirge]

Honor Magic4 Pro with its 100W wireless charging anyone? LMAO

its proprietary obv.

I think they call it "SuperCharge"

[gusty kiln]

https://youtu.be/U4g4TKF5VsQ?si=d1XHc2BiYQcypHEu

Pretty crazy for a starter nas

[hasty thunder]

so you're Tim cooked

It is time

[ashen spindle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/why-tho-4--k01KPXBGDWACFVWV3DQDAEE4NET

[sudden imp]

john apple PLESE

[hasty thunder]

nah, definitely cooked, because you can't get the good apps. The modded ones that allow more than YT premium does

[leaden kiln]

there’s still sideloading on ios, it’s more of a pain in the ass than android is right now though
I think there’s some youtube mods too

I haven’t bothered getting one but I don’t watch much on my phone compared to on a computer

[sudden imp]

does side loading need uhhh jailbreaking/

on ios

[steady sail]

nope

[leaden kiln]

not in the eu
I’m not sure about other regions but I’m sure a web browser could tell you

[steady sail]

its just more difficult

[sudden imp]

how

can IOS use revanced???

[leaden kiln]

revanced is an android app

[steady sail]

https://github.com/arichornlover/YouTubeEnhanced this is a thing but idk

okay instead of that try this https://github.com/dayanch96/YTLite its more up to date

[sudden imp]

that one has jailbreak

[hasty thunder]

1st: I don't have to deal with core parking anymore
2nd: the X3D2 has every single OC option activated. Not just PBO, but EVERY. SINGLE. METHOD.
3rd: it's perfectly suiting my needs

[ashen spindle]

You still will deal with core parking since cross ccd latency would still kill every performance app

And scheduling to the cache die was done on 9950x3d already because you have essentially no frequency difference

[hasty thunder]

now i won't have no frequency difference, hopefully. Didn't mount and check the CPU yet

[ashen spindle]

The secondary ccd is still hitting lower clocks so there’s still a “preferred” die

[hasty thunder]

we'll see. First i have to update my BIOS

[gusty kiln]

Think ccd0 is still preferred

[ashen spindle]

Also 2) is just on every zen5 chip lol

[lunar elm]

from what I've heard from x3d2 owners ccd0 is like a 9850x3d whilst ccd1 is a 9800x3d

[tribal dirge]

Also good to keep in mind heat dissipation and power constraints

The more cores you load up the lower they have to drop their clock speeds because of power and thermal constraints

[ashen spindle]

its basically just like a regular 9950x3d and the second die also got a cache tile

they didnt change binning or anything just a % of it got diverted to get extra cache dies

[ashen spindle]

ah found someone using the skatterbencher image https://vxtwitter.com/MurkFPSHub/status/2046969042821435495

MurkTweaks (@MurkFPSHub)

Just want to put this out here for anyone considering the 9950x3D2 CPU. Especially if you already own an x3D chip.

Full disclosure I have not tested this myself YET but in theory.

This screenshot shows that CCD1 has an FMAX clock speed of 5625. 200MHZ lower than CCD0. So in theory if your CCD0 is capable of utilising that 200MHZ extra in clocks when gaming then you want to schedule your game on CCD0 only. Thus making CCD1 and this CPU itself useless for gaming over the over x3D chips.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 22, 2026, 3:07 PM

so yeah its literally the same as a x3d1 for clocks

[unkempt lake]

it's not a we'll see... we know already

It's a waste of money you fell for the hype

[frozen ingot]

gotta flex on the poors

[gusty kiln]

@ashen spindle we might break 310 lmao

@fickle ore

[ashen spindle]

intel earnings will be fun today

[gusty kiln]

Honestly not sure about intel. 270k isn't enough momentum for desktop and their DC have been stagnant. They still have pretty good mobile

[ashen spindle]

none of that matters, people care about ptl supply, the tesla deal and if they got new customers and if we get AI gpu news

[lunar elm]

99% air 1% chicken

[hasty thunder]

are you serious?

[ashen spindle]

yes

[hasty thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

hope you watched his video till the end

[ashen spindle]

no I dont have a membership so I cant watch the two videos he has on it

oh there is a third thats public

[rough osprey]

https://fixupx.com/kotecinho/status/2047344244487020868?s=46

Kote (@kotecinho)

Tensei
︀︀Pininfarina | JAS Motorsport
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︀︀“Rebirth” of the Honda NSX

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FixupX · Apr 23, 2026, 3:58 PM

👀

[ashen spindle]

okay so ccd0 is still faster after manual oc?

yeah so the second CCD is still the worse bin?

[lunar elm]

yeah

[unkempt lake]

@hasty thunder arent you running a 9070xt... i remember you having that

If so then what's the logic

What specialized workload do you do because for gaming this makes absolutely zero sense (hell even for productivity its a hard sell)

[distant tapir]

Why didn't you listen!!

[hasty thunder]

look, at the end of the day i'm an overclocker and it does exactly what i was expecting

[plucky tapir]

If has a 2 in the game and why buy the 2nd best? Why settle for a 9950X3D? Pfft, peasants.

[smoky parrot]

Why are we seemingly attacking someone for buying a thing? Isn't it their choice at the end of the day?

[hasty thunder]

it's not like i don't own both versions anyway

[ashen spindle]

well I asked why in the beginning and the answer I got was wrong information so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky parrot]

That's fair but... Idk. Is it worth all that talking? Some people came at her hard, from someone not in on the convo

I can't speak for correctness of information of course, I simply don't know that and defer to your knowledge on that

[gusty kiln]

This is good as a shareholder

[smoky parrot]

Just felt a bit snappy in here:D

[hasty thunder]

Look, guys. I really do not care. I've wanted the X3D2 ever since the first rumors came up, because i was expecting insanely good overclocking potential and i didn't get disappointed

[ashen spindle]

idc how someone wastes their money on a hobby, I just like to point out when something is wrong, after all this is far from the worst one could make when purchasing XOC stuff lol

[gusty kiln]

Have you got into the desktop leader board yet?

Top 10?

[plucky tapir]

Hype! My plan was to buy it a few months ago but with the 48GB kit I wanted selling for 1500 euro I decided it won't happen, I'm not paying like 4 times as much as others did just a few months prior.

I even have motherboard sitting in a box but oh well.

[plucky tapir]

I wonder what the real difference is between them without variance RNG, I had 2 5800X3D with 1 running like 100MHz higher than the other with the same settings.

What score did you get on the regular 9950X3D?

[hasty thunder]

absolutely fine tuned and all? About the same

while the X3D2 is basically sloppy tuned with eCLK not even adjusted properly yet. Gotta check when my X3D2 gives up and i have to setup my curve too

[plucky tapir]

I played with my curve for weeks but I never got it stable, even a -5 on some cores would crash during handbrake while I could do like -30 for gaming, it just took so much I ended up going back to stock because losing out on my encodes failing was so annoying.

[hasty thunder]

yeah, the regular X3D required positive curves all the way

ok, 105.5 is a nope

[plucky tapir]

Do you use anything specific for stability testing? Problem is I could run corecycler for days but then it would crash 12 hours in an encode.

[hasty thunder]

OCCT, R23 and R15 Extreme

and i really wanna push it to the max i go with Prime95 small fft

[plucky tapir]

Yeah I did prime95 as well but that put much more load on it than what handbrake does and it never crashed so it wasn't like at 100% all core load that it crashed it was mixed load stuff.

Handbrake for me usually sits at like 70% load, quite annoying to troubleshoot ngl.

I never tried OCCT, might try that next time.

[hasty thunder]

OCCT is quite nice, because it can 100% load your CPU and even alarm when the hardware throws errors

[plucky tapir]

Does it log which core crashed as well even if it restarted the PC?

[barren blaze]

My ä, ö and ü just got randomly removed how can I get them back?

[steady sail]

win+space

and change language

[barren blaze]

thanks

[plucky tapir]

People didn't like my comment about the 9950X3D2

[vapid ruin]

67

[steady sail]

[vapid ruin]

but yeh, there's some peeps that just want speed and don't care about money

I mean, 5090 Dubai Prince Edition exists, so people also willingly paying more for aesthetic, I can see the same for speed

[plucky tapir]

Is the Dubai 5090 higher binned than a regular Astral?

Problem for me is I'm spending 1500+ euro extra on an Astral to just throw the cooler in a bin becase I'm just putting a waterblock on it anyway.

[rough osprey]

yep

[steady sail]

but the penis 5090

[plucky tapir]

I did like the look of that as well, I just wish they had some high end cards sold without a cooler or with a waterblock already installed. Gigabyte does some but it's cheaper to buy their high end card and a better waterblock from Watercool for example, so it's pointless.

[rough osprey]

become a company

[steady sail]

Just start a GPU company from a denny's

[plucky tapir]

But I don't like work?

I just like complaining.

[hasty thunder]

yeah... i'm temperature limited... welp, guess it's time for a custom loop

[plucky tapir]

Custom loop is the way! I don't even do it for the temps I do it for the looooooks.

[hasty thunder]

still, i don't understand why my board is also affecting my RAM, when i set eCLK only to the CPU

[plucky tapir]

Remind me what eCLK does, does it lock memory to 100bus even if you increase it or what?

[rose sail]

yo you guys know about the silicone case right is it only for the v2 or any 60he module from wooting

[hasty thunder]

well, usually it affects BCLK, so it's affecting everything. CPU, RAM, PCIe lanes, etc.
With an external Clock signal, eCLK, you can only affect certain hardware like the CPU alone, while the rest of the system doesn't get touched

[plucky tapir]

Did it work right with the 9950X3D? Maybe it's a bios bug thingy with the new X3D2 model?

[hasty thunder]

it didn't work with my X3D

because it was basically a 9800X3D and 9800X

having the same dies on a chip is a different story tho, because they work together rather than against each other

now that's what i wanted to see

i'm surprised about the temps tho... I was expecting much higher temps

[rough osprey]

my 9800x3d got 60k

[plucky tapir]

I think I saw on reddit someone mentioning CCD0 runs 100MHz higher than CCD1 but I dunno if that's true.

[hasty thunder]

[plucky tapir]

How long does the test take to run? Does it reach equilibrium?

[hasty thunder]

you know i had one too? And a damn one at that, @rough osprey

[rough osprey]

impossible

why no good gpu tho

[plucky tapir]

That's the best AMD has to offer!

[rough osprey]

needs 26 cas

[hasty thunder]

given how shit nVidias drivers were over the past few months? Yeah. I really didn't wanna deal with that bullshit

besides, do you REALLY think my 9070 XT runs stock?

[rough osprey]

i get that but amd 😅

[plucky tapir]

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/390/1725939074/F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TZ5NR I wanted these but 1500 euro post rampocalypse waaaaaaah.

[hasty thunder]

like do you REALLY believe i'd be this stupid?

[plucky tapir]

You don't want a fire?

[hasty thunder]

lol no

[plucky tapir]

Free heating.

[rough osprey]

them hwinfos number so random

[hasty thunder]

i prefer my GPUs hot and fast, but not on fire

[hasty thunder]

max GPU power draw at almost 700W

what's so random about it?

[plucky tapir]

That's why I'm probably getting this new cable: https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-equalizer/rog-equalizer/ maybe it will prevent said fire.

[rough osprey]

my nvidia also be having weird peaks

[hasty thunder]

it doesn't xD And everyone knows it already

[plucky tapir]

STOP I NEED MY HOPIUM

[hasty thunder]

also, did you know Gigglebyte has a response to Asus' cable?

https://youtu.be/DUvoAm1cMsg

[plucky tapir]

AI voiceover?

[hasty thunder]

Just Gigglebyte stuff

[plucky tapir]

💩

[hasty thunder]

there's a reason i'm not overclocking for them anymore

[plucky tapir]

Tbf I did actually like my X570 Auros Master when I had that.

[hasty thunder]

i liked it too, but everything after pushed me away from them

especially when the controversy with Hicookie started i told Gigglebyte i quit overclocking for them

[plucky tapir]

Fair

My next motherboard will probably be ASUS because using multiple RGB softwares is shit and ASUS actually supports the Windows built in one even if limited.

[hasty thunder]

the Tachyon i.e. great board on paper, but why the BCLK buttons didn't work when the rig was running was beyond me

[plucky tapir]

I wanted the Crosshair Dark Hero but it won't fit, the PCIe slot is 1 slot lower than normal so the graphicscard would hit my radiator, kinda meh.

[hasty thunder]

tbh, the Hero is a solid choice

[gusty kiln]

Shame evga is no longer in any game any more

[plucky tapir]

Last EVGA card I had was my 1080 Ti FTW3 :/

Never a mobo

[hasty thunder]

only upgraded to the Glacial, because i can run 3 NVMe's without killing lanes to my GPU

[gusty kiln]

Evga kingpin were so nice

Full copper and black

[plucky tapir]

Glacial better than Hero or same just white? I never bothered with the Glacial because white and won't fit my black/silver theme.

[hasty thunder]

the evga boards were a pain and a half. I loved them when they did what they were supposed to do, but most of the time they didn't

[hasty thunder]

if the Dark Hero won't fit the Glacial won't fit either

[plucky tapir]

Yeah :/

Apex doesn't work, and Dark Hero doesn't work. Regular Hero does.

[hasty thunder]

seriously tho, if you really want a decent overclocking board without going to the absolute top of the price list the normal Hero is your best choice

[gusty kiln]

What about the godlike

Casual $1000 mobo

[hasty thunder]

it costs just as much as the Glacial and doesn't even come close to it

so what's the point?

[plucky tapir]

Yeah, my original plan was Dark Hero or Extreme before I put the radiator in the case with the fans and started to measure, then I was like oh balls.

[gusty kiln]

Which one is the glacial?

Asrock?

[hasty thunder]

asrock has no glacial

[plucky tapir]

ASRock has Taichi but I dunno if they have fixed their issues yet.

[hasty thunder]

nope

[gusty kiln]

Shame since both my intel and amd mobo have been asrock

[hasty thunder]

still random reports of boards killing cpus

[gusty kiln]

Lga1150 and am4

[plucky tapir]

Yeah, I cba dealing with that, they are usually a bit slow with bios updates as well from my experience.

[fickle ore]

niiice

[gusty kiln]

We didn't lol

We were at 310 for like a minute

[fickle ore]

Intel today in 1.5 hours

[plucky tapir]

@hasty thunder This guy is how I noticed it wouldn't work, he uses an ITX board so PCIe slot 1 slot higher than normal and I also have the T30 fans which is 5mm thicker, and going with the Dark Hero would put the cards 2 PCIe slots lower. Oops.

[fickle ore]

will be sad or fun, as usual

or maybe sideways

[ashen spindle]

I'm making one stock prediction

[fickle ore]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-wink-gif-7720100

[ashen spindle]

if they dont let stacy from bernstein ask a question (intel or amd sometimes dont let him ask hard questions) stock plummets hard

[plucky tapir]

How much do we think the new Intel 400DX will cost?

[ashen spindle]

entirely depends on performance aka if they hit clock targets

but I think >700

its such a massive N2 slap

[gusty kiln]

DX

[fickle ore]

Jacona lets buy some gg espresso setups with our AMD gains

[gusty kiln]

[plucky tapir]

Hopium, it's kinda why I stopped buying my AMD stuff to wait and see, but then I'll just end up waiting for Zen 6...

[gusty kiln]

Unfortunately not much of a coffee drinker

[fickle ore]

Ok, if LBT wears Jensen Jacket stock is up 100%¤

guy needs some external help for speeches

oh shit I missed the tesla 14A terafab deal

[ashen spindle]

well the issue is new ceo wants higher margins and the nvl cache tile is MASSIVE

[fickle ore]

Lets get NVL 3D cache cpus

[ashen spindle]

basically one NVL bLLC die is larger than 2 zen6 CCDs if leaks are correct

so just on a pure hardware cost the 52c nova lake is like 3x more expensive to make

but obviously pure wafer cost is only a part of the total thing

[plucky tapir]

I feel like Intel can care about margins again once they have a good product on the market and isn't just playing good PR guy making "overclockign available to everyone" like it's some nice thing from them and not just begging for people to buy their stuff.

[ashen spindle]

nope desktop mindshare is irrelevant for intel

thats too small of a market to care

[fickle ore]

NVL is just PR for their fabbing business

[ashen spindle]

nvl is on tsmc lol

[fickle ore]

bro

[plucky tapir]

Consumer products.

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter, their entire thing is going to >50% margins for new products

[plucky tapir]

Will have the same market share as AMD graphics cards then, I don't really care either way I'll just stick with AMD CPUs.

[hasty thunder]

ooooookay... 1.15 VDDCR_SOC was a stupid idea. No wonder i couldn't get it running stable

[ashen spindle]

I mean lower market share with higher margins is still better for them

[fickle ore]

lmfao

[plucky tapir]

If it will gain them more profit in total dollars in the end, sure.

[ashen spindle]

yes and thats all that matters

[plucky tapir]

Ofc

[jaunty rose]

So whats up with the 9950x3D?

[fickle ore]

thats peak brand loyalty, just check reviews after it releases

[ashen spindle]

that one is fine, the x3d2 is only for you if you want gains in something like fluid dynamics or other specific workstation applications

[jaunty rose]

So mostly a work station cpu, does it benefit in games? Oh and also whats the price

[umbral heron]

$900 MSRP

[jaunty rose]

FUCK NO WHAT

LMAOOO

[ashen spindle]

its the exact same in games

[hasty thunder]

uhh... hold on, didn't you say CCD0 should clock higher, @ashen spindle ?

[jaunty rose]

So 9800x3D is still the best option

For games

[ashen spindle]

yes like a regular 9950(x3d) the first ccd is better binned

[ashen spindle]

yes

[hasty thunder]

not in my case

CCD1 is actually the better one here

[ashen spindle]

I mean idk if the naming is always the same

[fickle ore]

get a 9950x3d and shut down the other chiplet and remove it and place the binned chiplet middle of the chip thatll beat 9800x3d by few %

[hasty thunder]

CCD0 = 1st die
CCD1 = 2nd die

there's no mix up

[ashen spindle]

no I mean idk if they always name the better bin ccd0

[ashen spindle]

basically this is how its advertised

[jaunty rose]

Cant wait for amd to release another am4 cpu before zen 6

[jaunty rose]

Thanks

[hasty thunder]

nope. They just name them the way they're mounted on the PCB

[ashen spindle]

yeah but that doesnt mean they always bin the better one first

[nimble arch]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm1y89vek8o

[plucky tapir]

Can't wait for investors to start demanding dividends.

[thorn briar]

wasnt there a 9850x3d?

or did i imigane that one

[ashen spindle]

its the same thing

[plucky tapir]

Yeah the 9850X3D is technically better, but it wouldn't surprise me if a good binned 9800X3D is better than a bad 9850X3D.

[thorn briar]

binned?

[plucky tapir]

Not binned

[ashen spindle]

better silicon quality

[plucky tapir]

Silicon lottery

[thorn briar]

what does that change

[ashen spindle]

binning is categorizing a silicon producy based on its characteristics

[thorn briar]

is it like temps?

[ashen spindle]

a better bin of the same chip can clock higher or use less power

[plucky tapir]

Same as with graphics card, you can buy 2 of the same thing and get difference in performance.

[thorn briar]

YOU CAN??

[ashen spindle]

its not anything noticeable

its just a tiny difference because you cant make multiple silicon chips perfectly the same

[plucky tapir]

My 1080 Ti clocked almost 100MHz higher than my friends, same model.

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats about what you can find

[thorn briar]

oh damn

[ashen spindle]

like 2% or so better or worse usually at the extreme ends

[thorn briar]

i wouldnt notice anyway since my pc barely touches the specs lol

[plucky tapir]

There is also lottery in what memory speeds your CPU can run, there are people wh obuy 2-3 CPUs to get one that can run their memory at 1:1.

[thorn briar]

...

[plucky tapir]

Send the bad ones back, keep the good one.

[ashen spindle]

yeah if you go for overclocking records those changes matter, if you want to just game it doesnt change a thing

[analog sinew]

slightly, like a few percent.
Modern semiconductors are so complex that they are never quite the same because they have a certain failure rate on the millions of elements that make them up. Slight differences in numbers of elements. Some will have slightly more performance as a result.

That's also how different tiers of components are made, for example nvidia will make a 12 core gpu, and then those with 12 working cores will be x090, those with 1-2 broken cores will get them disabled and be sold as a 10core x080 and so on

[fickle ore]

they already pay me lol

[ashen spindle]

silicon lottery used to be a site where you could get pre tested chips to OC higher

[gusty kiln]

Doesn't matter for your everyday gaymers

[plucky tapir]

On what AI profits? 😄

[thorn briar]

wait thats so cool

[gusty kiln]

Nokia stopped letting my reinvested with the dividends a while ago

[plucky tapir]

You didn't notice silicon differences before because there was a set spec for a CPU or GPU to run at, it would run at a set MHz and nothing else, it's just with the newer stuff that clocks higher dynamically that it started becoming an "issue" and people noticing it.

[thorn briar]

ahh i see

[fickle ore]

weird, just gotta do it manually

[maiden nexus]

Is there anything I can do for a loose usb port on my 60he?

[fickle ore]

META makes a shitload from AI yeah kekk

[thorn briar]

i dont think id physically be able to notice anyway since i got a 5070ti 9800x3d but all i play is like kovaaks osu and a tiny bit of ow

actually since im in the tech channel for like fps/rhythm games in specific will oled actually make a difference other then just making the game look nicer

[plucky tapir]

You might notice a 50 or so point difference in SC Cinebench and a few hundred in MT at best, you wouldn't really notice a difference in stuff unless you measure it.

[thorn briar]

could it not be noticeable in a hard to run game like the finals or bf6?

[fickle ore]

Ask AI whether improved contrast will improve your eye-to-brain reaction time and paste it to me

[plucky tapir]

Maybe an FPS or so? But most would put that as no difference as just run to run variance.

[analog sinew]

short of reflowing it, notreally

if it is loose enough where it seems like it could cause an issue, contact support

[thorn briar]

which ai? since alot of them lie no??

[thorn briar]

oh damn so its literally unoticeable

[analog sinew]

yesnt, since theres so many factors going into it. Your fps will also vary depending on ambient temperature etc etc

unless you are really going for max max performance there's little incentive to do it

[thorn briar]

only reason im asking about monitors is because i wanna grab a 360hz monitor but im stuck on wether to go for a normal one or an oled since the price difference is kinda crazy so if its not a major difference imma just find an ips

[thorn briar]

good to know

[thorn briar]

i mean this is talking about reaction time and motion blur but in stuff like lets say bf6 where visibility can be kinda rough couldnt the oled make a difference?

[fickle ore]

so it may or may not, but OLED also benefits from faster rise and fall times so reaction time is inherently better.

[plucky tapir]

Not big enough to care I'd say unless you're severely underperforming. 1% up/down is margin of error stuff anyway.

But 1% can be a big difference for benchmarks.

[ashen spindle]

a 140hz oled has the motion clarity of like a 220hz IPS is how you can think of it

[thorn briar]

i mean yea but ive never actually ran a benchmark i think

[thorn briar]

oh dam thats kinda big

so 360hz oled would be like 500 ish ips??

[plucky tapir]

Best thing with OLED is it doesn't need a variable overdrive for G-Sync.

[ashen spindle]

somewhat, its basically one tier higher vs just IPS, there are some things like Dy-Ac that make IPS similar but generally oled at same hz will be better

[thorn briar]

idk what my monitor is rn but it says a VA

[fickle ore]

not including other benefits that may improve clarity in real life scenarios

[thorn briar]

is that what ips is?

[plucky tapir]

There is VA, IPS and AHVA, AHVA is kinda IPS with a different name I think.

[ashen spindle]

TN/IPS/VA are all lcd, I keep forgetting people still use TN or older VA lol

I meant to say oled vs non oled like ips

[fickle ore]

Is gen 4/5 latest oled rn? I need to look which to get now

[thorn briar]

im not sure if its older but this about the one im using

[ashen spindle]

gen5 oled are the ones LG showed at CES yes

[thorn briar]

i think the only thing that worries me about oled is for rhythm games couldnt they cause burn in pretty fast?

[ashen spindle]

nah burn in isnt really an issue anymore as long as you do the refresh cycles when it needs them

[plucky tapir]

Say that to my OLEDs :<

[thorn briar]

is it not?

when i watched the optimum video it took like 400 hours for ow to burn in a tiny bit on his screen

[ashen spindle]

I've got the first gen qdoled since it came out and its still fine

[plucky tapir]

My current monitor is square stripe, even that is noticeable compared to diamond.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15aIdl-HKWc

[fickle ore]

Pretty cool stuff tbh

[plucky tapir]

My gen 1 last year, I've posted it before:

[ashen spindle]

lmao

[thorn briar]

wtf 360 hz oled is £500??

[fickle ore]

so likely not coming anytime soon

[thorn briar]

i actually wonder what the difference in price is lol

[ashen spindle]

oh no they are availablen ow I think? or very soon let me check

[leaden kiln]

I got a 360hz because it was cheaper than 240 here for a bit 👴

[ashen spindle]

yeah they are out since like february

[thorn briar]

i just want a 360hz since i get like 1000 fps in kovaaks and like 5k in osu so might aswell get 360

[fickle ore]

oo nice

[thorn briar]

especially since i have a 9800x3d 5070 ti but im using a 240 hz 1080p LOL

[rough osprey]

my oled had other issues before it burned in 😅

[thorn briar]

my monitor is like so underkill for my pc

[fickle ore]

fml that bench site RTINGS went paywalled now can't see input lags

[rough osprey]

although im scared of my tv dying

its getting kinda old

[leaden kiln]

I had a 1080p60 TN panel before I got oled 🚬

[thorn briar]

damn

lowkey still gotta figure if oled will mess with my sensory issues before i get one

[leaden kiln]

get one with a good return policy

[thorn briar]

oh yea returns good point

[rough osprey]

like amazon

[thorn briar]

lowkey since im learning osu standard i should probs wait till i get better at that then pick up the 360hz

[gusty kiln]

But vrr flicker will remain forever

[ashen spindle]

not if you dont have fps drops ez

[tribal dirge]

Outch yeah

[gusty kiln]

Qdel/microled waiting room

[fickle ore]

It just went to all time high, finally going over tech bubble value, tho lagging if infl. adjusted

[ashen spindle]

oh apparently its because they are giving more dividends than expected

so they didnt actualyl exceed anything, just are giving more money to investors instead of investing it..

[fickle ore]

Intel? they arent

[vivid tangle]

Who wud even get the silicon one

Wooting is high

[ashen spindle]

eps is up

and so is the eps outlook for q2

[fickle ore]

ya 2200% olol

[ashen spindle]

I dont like it because dividends shouldnt exist

I have the same opinion as buffet, dividends are for companies that people want to make money from and leave, not for companies that want to invest money for long term gains

[fickle ore]

Man intel isnt paying divvies rn

they used to when they stagnated

they stopped like 2 yrs ago

[fickle ore]

Buffet loves dividends, check his stocks. He just hates paying them out lol.

[ashen spindle]

yeah so he likes them to make money, not to make a profitable company

yeah idk why I brainfarted, eps isnt dividends

[fickle ore]

I somewhat disagree, because dividend investing is the ultimate chill. No need to sell portfolio at retirement bc its automatic

[ashen spindle]

for investors being good doesnt mean good for the company

[pale sigil]

I despise the bios reset button on the back

I keep knocking it

[sullen bear]

Tape over it

[rough osprey]

finally

[ashen spindle]

@fickle ore @gusty kiln amd also up lol

[gusty kiln]

yeah i saw lol

man AMD ER will be interesting

they should be blowing intel out of the water server side

[ashen spindle]

eh idk

this is the quarter before next gen launching

so server sales might not be up that much

at least not much above outlook

[lapis plaza]

Wtf

[empty wren]

No front io?

[dusty ruin]

im tryna update my keyboard but wooting restore isnt popping up what should i do?

[empty wren]

read the instructions closely

[red parrot]

Hey I got a 60he plus and i got soda on a couple of key switches. is this hot swappable? Should I get v2 if so?

[empty wren]

so disseamble and clean that in the mean time, there is no leaf contacts on wooting compatible switches so the answer is yes to the first question. As far as the second one goes, up to you honestly

[red parrot]

okay how would you suggest cleaning them? A tutorial video? I'm so new to this stuff so anything helps than you sm

[ashen spindle]

take the switch puller and remove what got dirty and clean it?

[sinful quest]

Disconnect the keyboard from power if you haven't done that yet, take it apart and for PCB you can use 99% IPA + 1% distilled water.

Switches you would be having an easier time to get some new ones, and for the rest some lukewarm soapy water

Like case and keycaps

[red parrot]

that's what i've heard so just wanted to confirm. prob just gonna buy a new pack and some switch pullers

[pale sigil]

I need to access the back and I grab it from the top

[empty wren]

perhaps if you have an unused port could use it mount a printed cover for the button?

[pale sigil]

Unused ports in this economy?

[empty wren]

okay so you use all your ports alright then

maybe hot glue can work then🤷‍♂️

[gilded panther]

anyone know the best way to clean an artizan mousepad?

[pale sigil]

Jokes aside it might be a good idea

[empty wren]

i was being serious

you can peel it away later

i used some on razer kraken at the earcup hinge functioned well

[cerulean arch]

Hand washing, max 30C warm water, neutral smelling soap

Then you massage that mf

Bathtub works best

[leaden kiln]

what’s the source for max 30c

[vapid ruin]

https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro

New Deepseek dropped

Tested the smaller version. Roleplay wise first impression, it's a lot better.

[halcyon moss]

Qwen 3.6 also released a few days ago. It's also quite good

862b.. You're not running that locally

[vapid ruin]

Deepseek never really known for small local model, they're known for frontier model at a cheap API cost (while also letting the weight be open if you have the hardware)

I mean, if you have 8 24gb card, you can host the smaller one

context is very light in this model, so you don't need that much vram to fit the model + context.

Computer with 300gb of ram can do too, though I'm not sure if the speed is viable.

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/unsloth/comments/1su4ls4/deepseek_v4_is_out_now/

[nimble arch]

I dislike how you can’t manually add orders to track in the Apple Wallet app. It’ll only track orders where you checkout with Apple Pay (which doesn’t work sometimes) and when Apple Intelligence correctly summarises an email as an order (also doesn’t work sometimes). It would be great if I could just manually add/enter order and tracking numbers.

[heavy wagon]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRbM7ejA/ is this worth it can anyone tell me? If I should maybe replace some parts or anything

[reef patrol]

[heavy wagon]

is it worth it?

@reef patrol

[smoky parrot]

Please do not the staff

[heavy wagon]

?

English?

[smoky parrot]

Do not ping the staff

It's in the rules

[latent mural]

I recognize that AIO actually

It’s that stupid expensive 200 pump

I forget the name but it’s all the craze in pc building instagram

[hasty thunder]

displays in a computer used to be informative for troubleshooting...

[reef patrol]

Gotta say. I am not a fan of the return to PSU box. 😄

[hasty thunder]

neither am i

[reef patrol]

It's an ugly hump. Cover the rest of the front at least, front to back 😄

And the front panel covers are... yeah

[hasty thunder]

tbh tho, a hump is better than a fully exposed PSU hanging above the board

[halcyon moss]

i have no idea what mine looks like

[sullen bear]

I think if this pc had less money in aesthetics it could run a 5090

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl0jkP9kOMw if someone needs a one more video before bed

[hasty thunder]

it could and it will at some point, but definitely not before christmas

[halcyon moss]

never sleep

[hasty thunder]

besides, these aren't just aesthetic parts, i made sure that every single part in there was for performance too

[umbral heron]

12 hours?

[sullen bear]

So how much better are the fans over noctua

And the mobo over any other x870e mobo? xD

[hasty thunder]

the mobo itself is basically the top of the line. In terms of components and capabilities
the fans aren't far behind the Noctuas

[sullen bear]

How does the mobo differentiate?

In performance

[hasty thunder]

better VRMs, Mosfets, etc. and comes with a fan for the RAM

it basically could easily power a 9995WX

[sullen bear]

And how much tangible performance does that give in fps or 1% lows or overclocking/undervolting?

I dont see the translation

[hasty thunder]

such boards aren't made for the usual case xD i could get away with a much cheaper board if my goal would be gaming benchmarks

[heavy wagon]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRbM7ejA/ is this worth it can anyone tell me? If I should maybe replace some parts or anything

[sullen bear]

So what benchmarks do you see a tangible difference with this mobo in?

[hasty thunder]

mostly productive benchmarks

[sullen bear]

Such as?

[heavy wagon]

Is it a good pc?

[heavy wagon]

Is it good?

[hasty thunder]

R23, DaVinci, 7-zip, y-cruncher and more

[sullen bear]

You have scores?

For r23

[hasty thunder]

#🔌│tech message

[heavy wagon]

Bro can anyone answer my question??

[hasty thunder]

way too much spent on looks rather than performance

a 9070 XT would have been cheaper and achieve basically the same performance as a 5070 Ti, the saved money could've gone in a 9800X3D instead

the RAM's also garbage. Could've gone with Kingston Fury instead and use performance sticks. They'd also be cheaper at the end and look better

[sullen bear]

So allat for barely 5% more? 💀

Over a 9950x3d1

With just a random mobo

[hasty thunder]

i have both here tbf

and i also have another X870E Hero here

[sullen bear]

But no 5090 🤔

[hasty thunder]

not everyone needs a 5090. Especially not me, because none of my applications require this ridiculously overpriced risk of fire hunk

[heavy wagon]

So what should I change

From this build

[sullen bear]

But i still dont see where the motherboard or other things inprove your cpu score other than now comparing 9950x3d vs 9950x3d2 come into the play

[hasty thunder]

for now i'm bandwidth limited due to my RAM at 6200 MT. My 8400 MT kit should arrive next month, so I can't fully utilize the build until the kit's here

in theory i should see about 10-15% better performance with the new kit, in production and games

[sullen bear]

Compared to?

9950x3d1?

[hasty thunder]

compared to the setup i'm running rn

[umbral heron]

@wheat plume LANAAAA! Fedora 44 on 28th https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2026-04-23/f44-final-go-no-go-meeting-2.2026-04-23-18.00.log.html

[ashen spindle]

use a normal site like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ to ask for pc builds help not some edgy video where you list them

[sullen bear]

Check his pc gear history its a waste of time anyways lol

[nimble arch]

You should use Ubuntu 26.04

[sullen bear]

Curious

[nimble arch]

Oh wait, 26.04 LTS is out today

Yesterday even

[umbral heron]

[hasty thunder]

the board is capable of running such high frequencies, i'd also be able to use a completely different divider

that way i should, in theory at least, be able to fully utilize any Zen 5 and 6 CPU

[nimble arch]

https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-26-04-lts-resolute-raccoon

[umbral heron]

I actually think about moving on my work laptop from Arch to Kubuntu

[crimson wigeon]

Finally realised Arch is overrated?

[hasty thunder]

don't do it... Kubuntu is even worse

[umbral heron]

Nah, it's been more stable at work for me than Kubuntu for others
But updates are always pain, because I update like once a month at work or so