🔌│tech

[empty wren]

it may creep even with annealing

[heady hazel]

nah but 50c id say can happen depending on the hardware

[empty wren]

i remember discussing bed arms with one fellow

[heady hazel]

yeah im concerned about warping if a cat sits on it aswell , even if the cat is not a chonker

[empty wren]

it will likely slowly bow inwards

[empty wren]

the bed was less than 3kgs

cats on average are heavier

[wheat plume]

InstallShield must be rolling in oceans of money at this rate
95% of software on Windows uses that shit to install itself

[heady hazel]

yeah thats what im thinking about aswell petg will deform if you have weight on it even if its not super hot

[empty wren]

well heat will worsen it regardless😄

[heady hazel]

yep i wonder how heat cycles affects it given that a pc will fluctuate in the exhaust temp and you shut it down etc

[empty wren]

also one guy designed ducts and used annealed pet, in that scenario there is less mechanical load but notice the amount of insulation he is using

[heady hazel]

i think annealing might be neat to get rid of layer lines aswell , i wonder if you could 3d print a proper foodsave bowl etc

[empty wren]

You can smoothen out quite nicely

[heady hazel]

allthough i genuinely think folks are a bit scared of 3d printing utensils , meanwhile you get wooden forks these days at places

[empty wren]

On the topic of that you would want the whole filament moving chain to be spec and span for no contamination.

[heady hazel]

yeah for sure

[empty wren]

There are people who have printed food moulds too for desserts or what not

On a questionable system

[empty wren]

This gets close to that thought https://cocoapress.com/products/cocoa-press-2-3d-chocolate-printer-diy-kit

[heady hazel]

i mean id for sure run a specific hotend and nozzle for that

[heady hazel]

i mean tpu should work for that well , i still have to try tpu printing

[wheat plume]

All MacOS + NeoVim users rejoice, you can now smack your Macbook to undo what you typed in NeoVim
https://github.com/DuncanLutz/Smack.Nvim

[leaden kiln]

that one guy that made a program so the macbook moans when you slap it

[wheat plume]

[leaden kiln]

https://fixupx.com/jlxc2001/status/2027444452848243075/en

江灵夏草 (@jlxc2001)

📑 Translated from language_zh

I found a weird project on GitHub made by a sexually frustrated programmer, implemented using the Mac's accelerometer sensor, where slapping the Mac makes it emit strange sounds. 😨😨😨

Original text
在GitHub上面发现了一个性压抑程序员做的奇怪项目，利用Mac的加速度传感器实现的，拍打Mac就能发出奇怪的声音。😨😨😨

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mods
dont kill me

[wheat plume]

thanks I hate it

[vapid ruin]

Im surprised macbook has one, I guess it's a carry over from ipad since it's basically the same processor.

[tribal dirge]

Oh yeah they have accelerometers in them

[wheat plume]

Discord just randomly rebooted and I got this message

[tribal dirge]

oh yeah, just update your client to the latest ver

iirc that only affects your ability to join voice calls

[pale sigil]

Another annoying thing

Discord doesn't always just update

And aur can be behind

[wheat plume]

im using the flatpak discord

[pale sigil]

So was I

I had to update it outside of the store thing

Came up even though I was using discovery flatpak

Which isn't always up to date

And don't say something like not true because flatpak is updated by the community

It's many small things like this that makes Linux Desktops not just work

For someone like me it's not an issue though

[halcyon moss]

You guys have discord installed on Linux?

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah, can just disable that with a simple settings.json tweak. I just wrote my own autoupdater though as it was bugging me so much

And I would hope that all those third party packages disable that updater..

[grizzled prism]

Easier when you're on a distro that packages discord so you can skip flatpak/aur

[cunning mountain]

Hello Guys am I cooked?

I had a small accident yesterday: a bit of Cola spilled mostly on the keycaps, but a few Lekker switches got wet on the sides (especially around WASD area) and a very small amount reached the spacebar stabilizer pins/holes.
• Immediately unplugged the keyboard (no power while wet).
• Removed keycaps right away.
• Used a handheld blower (Jisulife) to blow out what I could → almost nothing came out, so probably very little liquid actually entered.
• Let it dry open and upside down overnight.
I attached photos:
• Before cleaning: visible brown/yellow sugary residue around some switches and near spacebar area.
• After blowing/drying: looks much cleaner, no big puddles or new stains. Especially the spacebar stabilizers (I know the pinholes are not fully protected by the coating)
I plan to clean with 99% isopropyl alcohol tomorrow (Q-tips + gentle brushing around the sides of the switches and stabilizer pins).
Questions:

1. Is one day delay okay, or should I try to clean sooner?
2. Best way to clean the spacebar stabilizer pins/holes without flooding the board?
3. If the spacebar feels a bit sticky after cleaning, is that usually fixable or does it mean corrosion already started?
4. If some switches stay inconsistent after thorough ISO cleaning + long drying, would replacing just those Lekker switches be enough, or is the PCB likely affected too?

[heady hazel]

alcohol is your best bet imo

[cunning mountain]

Dang, so when I open it up later, you think I’ll be fine when I do it tonight? I have to work, and since I work in a security area, I can’t do it until then.

[heady hazel]

well cola is likely not that bad i did it recently after months of my f2 key sticking and its fine

[cunning mountain]

Yes it Only went to WASD but the Key Point is it also went to the Spacebar hopefully not into the Small Holes

[heady hazel]

when in doubt just use more alcohol and then relube if the switches are lubed that is

[cunning mountain]

Alright will do so later now Ill Leave it on room temp and with my Hand Fan

Its also only a 2. Month Old Child so I Hope my Child will Recover from this PTSD

[empty wren]

looks like an 80HE i might be wrong, but I think it has a conformal coating

cleaning up the residue is not a bad idea though

[cunning mountain]

Yes, it’s an 80HE. I’m also planning to open it up, but right now, I don’t have a screwdriver to get into those holes at the back. Also, I don’t have an ISO cleaner for cleaning. I used my Jisulife Handfan on all the switches and brushed all the holes with a cotton swab to remove anything that could stick.

[thorny robin]

Do any of you know how i can get a windows key

For cheaper than microsoft because 130 is outrageous

[ashen spindle]

use google and search for massgrave

tool used even by microsoft support at times ironically

[cunning mountain]

I Can help you

[heady hazel]

i just buy a key online most times if needed

[cunning mountain]

DM me, no Need to Buy or Pay

[cunning mountain]

Yea that was my Plan aswell did the Same and it worked.

[pale sigil]

Bro

Be specific lmao

[heady hazel]

ok uhh , dump alcohol onto the keyboard. and hope for the best ... at least thats my approach

[sinful quest]

I am gonna clean my board with beer now

[heady hazel]

bro lowkey beer is devious

[pale sigil]

My dude

You tell someone to pour alcohol on it one day someone will soak it in vodka and wonder why it wouldn't work.

XD

[heady hazel]

welll he said this beforehand

[pale sigil]

Ok I'll let you off

[empty wren]

If the conformal coating is acrylic based would be a concern

[zenith silo]

True, ill use everclear 💀

[thorny robin]

Finally its running safely

Just need to cable manage now

[paper mason]

Which one should I buy first? My monitor which is the Alienware 25 320Hz Gaming Monitor – AW2525HM which is $230. The keyboard which is the Wooting80HE for $200, or the mouse which is x2 Pro Superstrike which is $180, but I gotta wait till it restocks

[paper mason]

Actually imma not buy the SuperStrike but the Pro x SuperLight 2

[subtle turret]

Superstrike people make it out to be a game changer, you sure you don't wanna go for that?

Like it ain't gonna make you a whole lot better in games, but for sure if you practiced with it it's gonna be much more consistent

[zenith silo]

It really aint though

[subtle turret]

It's much more consistent on fast clicks, I gotta give it that

[zenith silo]

Its getting rid of pre travel which on any good mouse already is really low 🤷

Also, its qc is god awful

[subtle turret]

This I agree

[zenith silo]

Id avoid logislop at all costs until someone else picks up the tech

[subtle turret]

honestly, running a razer rn, I got nothing to call out on logitech buyers soooo...

[zenith silo]

For clicking fast yeah probably

I could see a decent benefit there

But in terms of click latency, meh

[zenith silo]

Im beastx maxxing💪 💪

[subtle turret]

Click latency tbh, massive gimmick

I think there comes a point that it's unnoticable

Like 8k polling

[zenith silo]

Most good mice have such a little amount of pre travel already

[zenith silo]

Electrical latency is no different

But the pre travel is what logi claimed saves 30+ms

Which im calling bs

[subtle turret]

A good night sleep also saves 30ms soooo

Sleep well I guess

[zenith silo]

Not for me

My vrt aint affected by sleep that much in my experience

Unless its like 2 days no sleep

[subtle turret]

Damn, guess I got it horribly wrong, I never have enough sleep so I am currently blaming that for some whiffs

[zenith silo]

I could do 140ms awake for over a day and high asf

However vrt kinda dont mean much in games 🤷

[subtle turret]

True true

[zenith silo]

Way more factors for reaction time in actual games where vrt doesnt matter as much (to a degree)

If your like 180-200ms+ then yeah it kinda affects you

[subtle turret]

I mean it only matters if your fundamentals are like 100% locked in

[zenith silo]

Anything around 150 range is more than quick enough

[subtle turret]

To be honest your fundamentals can still save your 200ms+ reaction (I definitely don't average 170)

[zenith silo]

Indeed they can

Im a bit slower than I used to be, I avg around 150 now

[subtle turret]

Damn that's crazy, I wish I can average aroundn that tbh

[zenith silo]

Used to avg faster 😔

I blame my nerve issues (could be cope could actually affect it idk)

[subtle turret]

Well, I am gonna blame it all on sleep deprivation and monitor and mouse latency and my pc

[zenith silo]

When i was 18 I was averaging high 130s on 240hz

That was before nerves got bad

Partially genetics

They play a role in vrt for sure

[subtle turret]

Should I upgrade to an oled monitor, but damn those are pricey nowadays

[zenith silo]

I upgraded to oled September last year

Its so worth it

I got a good deal on a new open box one so was easier for me to pull the trigger, but id still buy one at full price now

Motion clarity on oled is soooooooooo nice

[lyric hatch]

Oleds have been one of the things actually coming down in price pretty drastically

Of course depends on the monitor but there are solid oleds for affordable prices

[subtle turret]

Which ones do you guys think is worth it for the price?

[zenith silo]

Honestly dont even know

[subtle turret]

Damn

Guess I am waiting for another 10 years

[zenith silo]

My buddy sent me a listing for g61sd for 660 cad (msrp was 1000 cad)

I instantly bought that shit

[subtle turret]

Was gonna come here to ask what should I do, upgrade the 60he or go 80he but honestly now that I think about it, my monitor sucks

[lyric hatch]

ASUS XG27AQDMG goes on sale pretty regularly for good prices

[subtle turret]

600 dollars where I am

[mortal swallow]

guys what's a good upgrade from a 3060

i jus want better fps on ow and rivals

[distant tapir]

5090

[umbral heron]

Tiem to get a nice 4-bay NAS

[latent mural]

Get a 5070ti for msrp if you can

Nothing else in this gen is a good deal

5080 isn’t worst the price cost, something like only 10-15% faster than a 5070ti for double-ish the price usually

5090 is stupid investment for gaming alone, that’s a gpu that you make money with

5070 is really not worth it with 12gbs, anything below that just get a 40 series card

All in all; 5070ti for 750 or a 9070xt for around but preferably below

This is all given your in 1440p btw

[lunar elm]

5070 is their best bet tbh

5070ti has increased in price and is pretty much no longer obtainable for msrp

[umbral heron]

Depends where - here it's still easily available for MSRP

[latent mural]

Yuh, I find PNY ones for 780 regularly

That’s a good deal tbh, bit over msrp

[latent mural]

But yea I would agree; 5070ti or 9070xt. Past that look at a 5070 if you don’t want to mess around used in this current market with all the scams

But I would really look at 4070 supers

You can find a bunch for 600-700

[steady sail]

I would just get a 5070 and be happy with it but thats just me

[lunar elm]

4070 supers for 600-700 is such a scam

[latent mural]

Yea okay I think going up to 7 is bad but for 600 I don’t think it’s all to bad

[steady sail]

I would look at 4070 supers if they are between 400-500

[queen python]

i have 3090 founders and can't bring myself to upgrade

i will probably grab the new amd processor actually before i upgrade my gpu

[lunar elm]

dude, we know 5070 is like msrp 550 right

600-700 is almost reaching 5070Ti/4080 level performance

[latent mural]

Can’t find a single one under 650

I agree 700 was too much to put up for a 4070 super

But id rather get a used 4070 super, which actually I was wrong.. you can find a bunch for a hundred bucks less…550

I just don’t feel like it’s worth it given the 5070 is only 5-9% faster in gaming

[lunar elm]

uh, sorry?

unless its below like 450 I would just get a 5070 over the 4070S

[mortal swallow]

1080p

also 5070s are all like $700

idk where ur getting MSRP

[steady sail]

I would just get a 5060 ti 16gb than

Or a 9060 xt 16gb

[mortal swallow]

i was thinking of getting a 9060xt since it's like the best value I can get

A 5060 ti 16gb over here is like $580~

a 9060xt is like $439

i wanted to stay with Nvidia but man

[steady sail]

I mean u can look at used 30 and 40 series cards as well

[mortal swallow]

idek where I'd buy those legit

[steady sail]

Ebay facebook marketplace jawa.gg

[latent mural]

Jawa.gg is nice, I’d rather buy electronics there

[steady sail]

I mean with facebook u just don’t pay ahead and meet with the guy in person

[latent mural]

Facebook arguably is the best, given you ask for a demo of it live.

It’s very anal to do and demand

But I wouldn’t buy without it

[thick phoenix]

its anal to ask for proof for thing you are buying working?

I dont care how much they complain, i want working stuff.

[latent mural]

I’m of a similar mindset, by anal I meant the logistics of it. I refuse to meet anywhere that isn’t public but also I want to be sure it works

[mortal swallow]

that place lowkey sucks atf

why is everything more expensive than stores

[latent mural]

Usually that means one person has to lug a bench around. Which I often just do

[mortal swallow]

this is used shit 😭

[latent mural]

You have to look I guess, I scored a nice 5060 as a pass through card for my plex server a while back.

[mortal swallow]

ik wym MFS are shady, especially with the fact that gpus are so bipolar and are known to sometimes work temporarily, enough to be able to show it's working just for it to not work during actual gaming

and then ur out hundreds

[latent mural]

People swap gpu dies out now and sell just the shell and PCB

It’s 100% worth checking regardless of complaints

But yea, I keep a small am4 test bench for this reason. I buy enough cards used it’s a decent investment

[umbral heron]

QNAP TS-462 looks really nice, and it has Celeron, so I could docker Jellyfin on it
Plus 4x8TB Ironwolf and we party

[fair gull]

thomann must have some really odd XM8500 mics if they are 999mm long and have a 999mm diameter

[umbral heron]

You will hear people whispering on ISS with this

[smoky parrot]

Bought a second hand Echo Mini :3

[nimble arch]

I’m enjoying my new Elgato stuff

Sold my old Wave 3 and accessories to my brother. Nice way to recoup some money.

[umbral heron]

I may have accidentally propagate alias sudowoodo=sudo on half of our servers

[fair gull]

i have to say... for 20 bucks the XM8500 is a damn good mic

i feel like the metal housing and electronics must already cost close to 20bucks

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-geralt-of-rivia-the-witcher-fuck-gif-15913480

[nimble arch]

Why have you done this?

[umbral heron]

wrong playbook directory

[nimble arch]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[umbral heron]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/china-warns-of-fresh-chip-shortages-as-nexperia-dispute-escalates-again

[frozen ingot]

the artificially induced shortage timeline

[magic minnow]

I got tricked

Deleting

[smoky parrot]

Typical Calsy AI move

[umbral heron]

[analog sinew]

come, calsyai, to the lobotomization chamber...

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfSO-LCKmrA

ram costing too much? just build you own cleanroom

[frozen ingot]

am refurnishing my living room to fit my own asml machine

[ashen spindle]

I dont think your house is big enough for one

[frozen ingot]

I might have to tear down a few walls but should be good

[umbral heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/167181566978555904/1480223395017920542/am307o.gif

[frozen ingot]

also need to go to the beach and borrow a couple tons of sand to melt into my own wafers

[analog sinew]

now thats dedication

[tribal dirge]

yeah those EXE machines alone are like half the size of most houses lmao, also thats just the litho machine, you also need plasma/chemical etchers, ovens, annealers, ion dopers, etc, etc, etc.

oh and washers that use ultra pure water

[rough osprey]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-real-gold-rtx-5090-added-277000-in-value-in-seven-months-now-worth-818000

should have bought one

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSawz97JCY
@umbral heron time to refactor the Stator factory

[frozen ingot]

putting stuff that never depreciates onto rapidly depreciating destined for obsolescence electronics will never not be the most moronic thing imaginable to me

[tropic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/loony-toons-eye-popping-hot-gif-10235440

[umbral heron]

I think Kent lost it https://poc.bcachefs.org/

[crimson wigeon]

AI moment

[analog sinew]

finally, slop^2

[paper mason]

How much is it? Cause the Alienware monitor I want costs $230 and has 320Hz

Also how much Hz?

[steady sail]

Google it mate

[cunning mountain]

Can anyone advise on how to clean the keyboard from Cola Zero? I’ll use Isopropyl alcohol. How do I use it effectively?

[pale sigil]

Isn't it not actually real gold?

Just bits in paint

[ashen spindle]

not its actual gold

[pale sigil]

Oh

[velvet crown]

I got a 5080 for 1100 was dat a good price

USD

[pale sigil]

No

5080 is shit value

[tribal dirge]

It's real gold, 5 kilos to be exact, given by the person that wanted it be made of gold that they commissioned Asus to make

[sullen bear]

Msrp is 999 usd so idk

[ashen spindle]

given that the price for a 5070ti are about 1100 in the us these days, decent price given the market

[tribal dirge]

Holy shit.

That's kinda crazyyyyyyy

[magic minnow]

Should I get Pebble 2 Time @unkempt lake

[unkempt lake]

No

30 day warranty lol

🤣

[magic minnow]

Such a small window wtf

[umbral heron]

Wait for the next iteration

[lunar elm]

If its today, then I’d say its okay? Still on the losing end though.

[hardy sequoia]

I brought help please

[west prism]

I got a question a few days ago I found out that some mice do activate the click the moment they get Pressed and the contacts part instead of activating when the contact meet at the bottom. Now my question is can I achive that with modding or Software tweaking on any mouse?

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/wcpUcjEk3B

I recognise that card anywhere.... Because it's in my system lol

It is most definitely not a 3060 XD

[dull hollow]

3060 gets dwarfed by anything

[latent mural]

unironically the 3060 is VERY tiny

the GPUs have been getting bigger in the 20 series already but I feel like past the 3060 is when they just started getting massive

[frozen ingot]

the actual circuit boards themselves have actually gotten smaller, the heatsinks have gotten ludicrously big though

[tribal dirge]

Big power needs big cooling

[iron wave]

Any idea how to do maintenance on GM EVSE?

[iron wave]

Looks at 5090 FE

No excuses.

[halcyon moss]

An ev charge point?

[iron wave]

Yeah.

[halcyon moss]

What's wrong with it

(not that I know the device)

[iron wave]

It refuses to charge my car.

[halcyon moss]

Who installed it? Call them

Is it one with an rfid reader?

[mild dome]

Considering the size of the GPU die was getting smaller after AI started eating all the wafers (previously each tier had a pretty consistent size from what I've been told), GPU companies probably realised that clocking the absolute shit out of the smaller die was the only way to makeup for the lost performance from the reduced compute

[ashen spindle]

huh

wtf are you on about that doesnt make any sense

essentially nothing is wafer limited

and die size also hasnt gotten smaller, nvidia top end sku is basicel retilcle limit and has been for ages

[fair gull]

chat gpt agrees hes right quin im sorry

[ashen spindle]

Last time wafer throughput was the bottleneck was like 2020/2021

ever since then it’s been more so packaging or now ram

But AI isn’t making anything wafer limited

[tribal dirge]

True, 5090 FE cooler is tiny, but that's because Nvidia made the PCB itself super small

[tribal dirge]

By reticle limit you mean the stochastic effects of EUV or just the speed of said reticle?

[frozen ingot]

its not the gpu chip itself we're talking about but the actual circuit boards fam

[tribal dirge]

ie. the 8g/32g of acceleration is not enough

Which btw 32g of acceleration while maintaining sub nanometer positional accuracy is insane

[frozen ingot]

they die manufacturing process keeps getting smaller too ofc but we're also packing more stuff in

[ashen spindle]

theres a limit how big the reticle of the die can be due to max mask size and wavlenght

[tribal dirge]

So the field size due to the NA of the optics?

[ashen spindle]

high na euv is halving that so instead of like 850mm^2 high na euv cuts that in half

[tribal dirge]

Because obviously the reticle can only be as big as the optics that is magnifying it

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[tribal dirge]

Iirc on the NXE machines it's 4X isomorphic

But on EXE they moved to anamorphic 8X by 4X

Which actually makes the field size even smaller

Like basically half the size

and it's more rectangular shape than square shape

The aspect ratio

[ashen spindle]

25x32 or so about

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

[ashen spindle]

so high na will put that to 25x16

[tribal dirge]

Exactly

Because of the anamorphic magnification

[ashen spindle]

only option to have larger dies is this or chiplet

[tribal dirge]

Going anamorphic was really the only reason why they were able to make 0.55 NA possible

[iron wave]

I'm going to try to fix it after dinner and if I can't I'll have to call GM or something.

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, advanced packaging is what really matters

Even Apple is ditching monolithic die

For M5 pro and M5 max

[ashen spindle]

they already did for m2 ultra

[iron wave]

It is logical.

More segmentation and higher yields.

[ashen spindle]

but yeah nvidia is likely doing dies stitching if needed

[tribal dirge]

I guess

[ashen spindle]

everyone else moved on

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

[mild dome]

I was talking about the x60 series, not the top end. However I was pulling from vague memories of user complaints, so I decided to lookup the juicy data
760: 294 mm²
960: 228 mm²
1060: 200 mm²
2060: 445 mm²
3060: 276 mm²
4060: 159 mm²
5060: 181 mm²

So it seems that around 250mm^2 is average (228mm^2 if we remove the 2060 as an outlier), but the 2060's die size was crazy large, probably to contain all those RT and tensor cores, having over double the surface area of the previous generation. The 3060 was larger then average, but the 4060 cut the die size down well below the average. The 5060 is still below average in size.

[ashen spindle]

die size doesnt correlate to anything

theres too many variables

addin more cores while staying on the same node will mean you have a larger die and a node shrink will lower the size

20 series was on a node thats basically the same as 10th gen

theres also different ways to use a node, high density cell libraries will make the chip denser and thus smaller given all else is the same

starting with N3 things can be mixed even more

[mild dome]

Yeah, but there was a feeling people were getting "ripped off" because they were pay for more and getting a smaller product

[ashen spindle]

thats just not true

the only thing that HUB looked at was the amount of corse relative tot he biggest die perhaps

thats already questionable but looking at die size just shows the person in question doesnt understand how hardware works

[iron wave]

Oh, I think I found the issue. GM hired crap electricians.

[iron wave]

Next time I'm doing this myself.

[empty wren]

Just do not tell the home insurance

[iron wave]

I can still pull permits and junk.

[reef badge]

Any windows pc gurus able to help me with my pc? It keeps crashing

It started earlier today randomly when I got home from work once, I restarted ran updates for windows and gpu and then played video games normally for a couple of hours then started lounging watching videos and it happened again and again and again in a loop I got into bios but I’m in a bit of a loss

I wanna try the easy ones like sfc /scannow but now it just keeps crashing a little after boot if not right on the boot

Errors I have gotten are

KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Processor not supported

[runic scaffold]

Who has the best glass mousepads

[steady sail]

Relative i think wallhack’s glasspads are fine

[runic scaffold]

It’s between that or pulsar

[reef badge]

Wall hack sp-004 for sure

[azure otter]

sp-005 released ?

why are you still recommending the sp-004

[runic scaffold]

Yeah if it’s wallhack then imma just wait for the anime ones

[reef badge]

Can’t recommend something I haven’t tried myself

[azure otter]

fair enough

[reef badge]

My b I guess plus my computer is dying ……

[leaden kiln]

It’s the same surface, just a bit bigger and thinner

[lunar elm]

with this treasure I summon taobao

[twilit schooner]

More like Wallhack and GLSSWRKS

GLSSWRKS has better QC

[fast sable]

what’s the best rtx for Ryzen 9 9950X3D?

[umbral heron]

For gaming? 9850X3D with 5080 I'd say

[reef patrol]

What can you afford.

[fast sable]

yea

[reef patrol]

And what are you playing and hope to get out of it.

[umbral heron]

9950X3D only if you game and work on your PC
If you only game then 9850X3D is way better

[fast sable]

basically every big game

depending

[jaunty ivy]

And if you only work and never game then a 285k

[fast sable]

I heard 5080 have Ai?

[jaunty ivy]

A 5080 is still reasonable, a 5090 is like $4000 or something

[umbral heron]

All RTX since 20 series have DLSS and AI-based stuff
For Radeons that's 7xxx and 9xxx

[fast sable]

I see

even 40 one too

[umbral heron]

[jaunty ivy]

All the frame gen is AI

[steady sail]

Or if u Markiplier just get a RTX Pro 6000

[fast sable]

I see

[fast sable]

Lmaoooo😭

[ashen spindle]

https://www.proshop.de/Grafikkarte/NVIDIA-RTX-PRO-6000-Blackwell-Bulk-96GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkarte/3358883 yup that’s the best

[jaunty ivy]

Unless you're literally making a movie

[fast sable]

😭

Nah I’m good on that

ion making a movie

[ashen spindle]

Well you asked for the best

[fast sable]

true true

[umbral heron]

9850X3D, 5080/5090, B850-based motherboard and 48GB of RAM
It will run everything you throw at it

[fast sable]

I see

[halcyon moss]

it better, because thats top of the line

[jaunty ivy]

If you're buying a 5090 then you can probably spare the extra for x870e tbh

[umbral heron]

Gotta save where you can to put money where it matters
So instead of X870 motherboard you get B850, but get better GPU and so on

[halcyon moss]

why would you need a more expensive mobo?

[umbral heron]

But X870e is useless

[halcyon moss]

its not that much better

[jaunty ivy]

Overclocking really is all

[topaz fog]

my snes emulator works fine on my 9800 GT

[fast sable]

I see

[umbral heron]

In big 26? Enable PBO and carry on

[halcyon moss]

overclocking is mostly dead with PBO etc

[jaunty ivy]

Mainly ram, you could probably push 8000+mts

[umbral heron]

And GPUs get more performance from undervolting
About RAM overclocking... you spend like a week to tinker with it just to increase your FPS by 0.5%

[ashen spindle]

Yea higher end boards are for overclocking but only for benchmarks you don’t gain anything from faster ram on x3d in games

[steady sail]

If u wanna go to take n.1 on 3dmark leaderboards sure get a x870

[fast sable]

so I have HYTE Y70 and I don’t know where the fans go? just wanna make sure to buy right one

[jaunty ivy]

Wouldn't get x870, x870e tho is more worth

[umbral heron]

[jaunty ivy]

Top bottom side and back

[fast sable]

Thank you

Actually a savior

[umbral heron]

You can skip the bottom ones to be honest

[jaunty ivy]

I wouldn't since your gpu is vertical

You want that extra air

[umbral heron]

Oh, fair

[halcyon moss]

i miss the day where we had 2 fans extra in our cases

[fast sable]

Red means reverse fans

[halcyon moss]

oh wait, still do

[umbral heron]

Blue is air goes in, red is air goes out

[fast sable]

what are good fans in your opinion?

[jaunty ivy]

Depends how much you wanna spend

[fast sable]

[winter patrol]

just keep the arrows pointed as in the pic

[fast sable]

hmm most of fans usually cost $100

[umbral heron]

Creme de la creme is Noctua, but there's a ton of good cheaper alternatives, like Arctic

[fast sable]

a pop

[winter patrol]

my t30s werent 100

[fast sable]

I was looking at D30 fans I doubt it fit lol

[umbral heron]

I have Arctic P12s in mine, amazing price to performance ratio
Especially since my PC runs hot

[fast sable]

Hmmm arctic are good ngl

I can probably upgrade it in future

Ion need anything fancy

[jaunty ivy]

Arctic p12s are good. But if you wanna spend a bit more nzxt f360x look kinda clean ngl

[fast sable]

I upgrade the fans in future

[steady sail]

My 3 pack of 14 pro’s gonna arrive tmr

[umbral heron]

AMD pls gib new GPU, I can only play 4k120 and not 4k240 anymore

[steady sail]

Sir u need a 5090

[ashen spindle]

wish granted, rdna5 comes tomorrow but only beats the 9070 in RT

[fast sable]

Be quit fans dubs?

[umbral heron]

Can it beat 9070 in everything but RT instead?

[ashen spindle]

fine

it also beats it in how high the msrp is

[umbral heron]

I like my country, cheapest 5090 is 4k€

[lunar elm]

rdna “try to fight for” 5% “marketshare”

[ashen spindle]

the 5% marketshare number isnt accurate

[jaunty ivy]

Cheapest 5090 in Australia is $5800

[umbral heron]

Aussie kangaroos or freedom eagles?

[jaunty ivy]

AUD

[umbral heron]

So cheaper

[steady sail]

Aussie Freedom Kangoroos

[umbral heron]

Buckaroonies

[winter patrol]

you want something closer to the top

[umbral heron]

My cheap-ass fans are top 6?

[winter patrol]

p12s are pretty up there

just has this weird resonance at i-forgot-what-rpm

[fast sable]

😭

[ashen spindle]

aussies only have 10% vat

[jaunty ivy]

There's no vat, unless its called something else

[ashen spindle]

gst

[jaunty ivy]

That's part of the price

[ashen spindle]

yes

[umbral heron]

So is in all civilized countries

[jaunty ivy]

Isn't vat an addition to the price that's advertised?

[umbral heron]

Nope, VAT is included

[ashen spindle]

the us has taxes not listed because its different in each state

[umbral heron]

At least in EU

[ashen spindle]

so it depends where you buy it to and from and thus you cant have one price for all

[jaunty ivy]

Typical US

[ashen spindle]

but the base is the same, vendor sells it for x + y% regardless of it being called vat, gst or something else

just in some countries its listed as x for the price in others its listed as z and might show price without tax beneath it

[jaunty ivy]

Imagine something costs $200, so that's how much you pay for it and there are no other charges. The US simply could not comprehend this

[leaden kiln]

except shipping

[ashen spindle]

yeah its basically like shipping

[leaden kiln]

or if I’m buying from a different country in the eu and my vat is different

[ashen spindle]

it would be better sure but you cant list it with sales tax just like shipping is different depending on where you are

[jaunty ivy]

Most PC part vendors here include free shipping if the thing you're buying is above a certain price

[ashen spindle]

but not every generic item

either way you end up with something you cant use to universally show the final price

[jaunty ivy]

Amazon charges shipping but it's just cheaper to get prime lol

[jaunty ivy]

Dynamic pricing of shipping when?

[leaden kiln]

most of my amazon orders get free shipping without prime, but I’ve had so many free trials of prime too, I’ve never paid for prime

[jaunty ivy]

[leaden kiln]

I think it’s been 6 free trials

just handing them out

[distant oar]

can I put a key that is not im my keyboard layout in the second fn layer?

[reef patrol]

Not without some kind of ALT macro.

Your keyboard doesn't have a language - Your OS does.

[distant oar]

I can't like paste in a simbol?

[reef patrol]

Your keyboard isn't sending symbols. It's sending "key45" and your OS turns that into something, based on what keyboard language you have selected.

[distant oar]

alr

[analog sinew]

that said you can create a dks bind that potentially does the thing you want

for example you could create a dks bind that sends alt 156 or sth

which would output £

[umbral heron]

Pfff
Make your own layout with symbols you need https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=102134

Question - is there an option to disable all these (&mut thingies?

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[lunar elm]

just for another 20% premium

[reef patrol]

This is great if you work from home. Not so much if you're beholden to company issued hardware with locks

[umbral heron]

Pretty sure you can add layout to user regardless

[reef patrol]

You need to install these layouts with an .MSI file last I checked.

And that runs afoul of most company systems.

[sudden imp]

Himmel the hero would have purchased the GPU

[rough osprey]

the gpu killed him

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpK41Sm7cHM

a nice use of recycled iphone 16 pro

[lunar elm]

Too bad he isnt around to

[umbral heron]

I mean, that's what they should to with iPad - give it macOS
M chip iPads are beasts, but are crippled so much by iPadOS

[vapid ruin]

(From Dave2D)

Damn, they could've put a bigger battery

[reef patrol]

Battery expensive.

And power draw is low.

I'd consider it, if they made a 16gb model.

[vapid ruin]

maybe when iphone pro got a 16gb ram

[crimson wigeon]

Probably would have been 16 gigs were it not for AI

[umbral heron]

8G is not enough for a computer, no matter if it's Mac

[crimson wigeon]

Hey maybe this'll make developers think about optimizing.. right?.... right?

[umbral heron]

You can do whatever you want with OS
But apps and especially web don't care about your ram usage

[nimble arch]

Give me an OLED screen in the MacBook Air 13”.

I’d be all over that.

[umbral heron]

https://wccftech.com/chinas-most-powerful-gaming-gpu-yet-the-lisuan-g100-is-set-to-launch-this-week/

[sudden imp]

I see this being very very popular with college students

[crimson wigeon]

Oh boy wonder how good driver support for that thing is

[sudden imp]

Honestly 12-16gb of ram would be better

[umbral heron]

What's a driver

[sinful quest]

I am a car driver

[umbral heron]

[nimble arch]

MacBook Neo will likely be popular in some market segments which currently buy Chromebooks.

[sudden imp]

yeah education is most certaintly the point of interest

plus macbook neos would most certaintly be better than a chromebook

[umbral heron]

so a very low bar

[sudden imp]

yep

Hopefully it being an apple dumbass children wont be sticking things in them and breaking it

like these kids are not doing very nice things to the devices

[nimble arch]

MacBook Neo seems much better built than any other laptop in the same price point.

Simply due to it not being plastic

[frozen ingot]

you'll get further with it on mac os than windows for sure, but it's still going to cripple it and shorten its longevity considerably

[umbral heron]

Nah, the only fair comparison is Linux vs macOS
Windows needs 4G just to sit

[frozen ingot]

still, for people that only do the basic browsing, youtoobing, musicing and chatting it'll probably be enough

[umbral heron]

Given current state of web... it may not

[gusty kiln]

Shame they couldn't at least squeeze in 12gb just like 8gb vs 12gb on gpus

[sullen bear]

Idk what ur gonna do on a macbook neo what 8gb wont be enough for ngl

[vapid ruin]

it'll be a nice premium chromebook

but it might not be able to do 4k 120fps edit /s

[lunar elm]

it will, just takes 3 business days for 2 seconds tho

[ashen spindle]

8gb in the neo are fine it’s just going to cause a lot more wear on the ssd due to heavy swap usage which is fine but kills the ssd sooner so a few gb more would make it last much longer

[sullen bear]

Hmm dont think ive ever seen a ssd die in a macbook

[old marlin]

yea you forgot that apple has magic and despite using the same chips as everyone else they just make it last longer and run better

[frozen ingot]

having a heavily controlled and purpose built ecosystem does have its perks when it comes to making the most of the resources available

[ashen spindle]

Ecosystem doesn’t change anything about longevity of flash and that heavy swap usage is going to wear that down a lot

[uneven juniper]

While updating the Wooting firmware, the connection suddenly dropped and an error occurred. Please help.

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[rough osprey]

https://videocardz.com/driver/nvidia-geforce-game-ready-595-79

are we going in

[sullen bear]

aintnoway

oh interesting

new oleds

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/GO27Q24G

[lunar elm]

are we deadass another 1440p monitor

this is the glossy version of the 28g

[unkempt lake]

Someone hasn't used macos and it shows

[sudden imp]

https://www.dexerto.com/youtube/youtube-ads-are-about-to-get-even-longer-and-theyll-be-unskippable-3332420/

[unkempt lake]

Literally fine for videos and text editing

[ashen spindle]

no try doing daily tasks without enabling swap

[topaz fog]

now watch, 1 month after this rollout:
THIS JUST IN: "premium subscriptions up 1000%!" according to youtube

i would love to be able to self host all my videos but the algorithm and reach is important

[umbral heron]

Web frameworks don't care if you run macOS or anything else

[pale sigil]

Man, I was teaching my elder neighbor a bunch of shit on YouTube and I couldn't get over how horrible YouTube is without revanced.

The amount of ads and how much space they take up is horrendous, genuinely he was so confused why the first result from search was a huge banner."that's not what I searched"

[sudden imp]

What is revanced?

I’m honestly about to stop using YouTube with ads and go to a adblocker

[queen shore]

i recommend you trying brave browser

been using it for the past 3 years

no ads

[tribal dirge]

apple makes disabling that surprisingly hard

[pale sigil]

Modified YouTube app

[tribal dirge]

because you need to disable the SIP before changing anything about the memory

[pale sigil]

Blocks ads and has sponsor block

To be clear it's not a third party app, it repackages the YouTube app with patches.

[ashen spindle]

yup but to see if 8gb would be enough you need to compare it under same circumstances

[tribal dirge]

windows has swap too no?

usually enabled by default?

i'd say if both have swap enabled its a fair comparison

[ashen spindle]

mac uses it very aggressively in comparison

and mac doesnt have hdd etc.

[tribal dirge]

ok? so thats a windows swap problem not a mac problem?

i'd say its fair if both the mac system and windows system have swap enabled

[ashen spindle]

the point is you have downsides from 8gb so just because swap moves that to killing your ssd faster instead of running out of ram, you cant say 8gb is enough

[tribal dirge]

that's fair, but its a 499 laptop

in the big 26

[ashen spindle]

its still going to cost you in form of replacing your ssd down the line so it just moves cost

[tribal dirge]

I wouldnt nitpick it too hard, it could have been worse

[tribal dirge]

which you cant

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[tribal dirge]

they could have used an A18 non pro and had 6gb of ram instead of 8

[ashen spindle]

so I'm willing to bet these are going to die a lot more than other macs

[tribal dirge]

considering that 8gb M1 macbook airs are still kicking around i'd say its going to be a long time before that happens

M1 MBA is like what, almost 6 years old at this point?

and most people that bought them are still using them

i'd say non-issue given that they lasted this long

especially since the Neo has the benefit of using newer flash memory technology than M1 MBA

[ashen spindle]

maybe, but with websites going up and up in ram usage or desktop aps, I see it as a bigger issue these days

[tribal dirge]

thats fair

[ashen spindle]

10gb so it would be 8for cpu 2 for gpu would probably have been ideal

[unkempt lake]

those websites will still work on iphones with the same chip and ram just fine, they'll also work on that mac

[ashen spindle]

you're not reading what I'm saying

[tribal dirge]

yeah, but they cant really do that because of A18 pro packaging limitations

[unkempt lake]

You have to think about the device's purpose

[ashen spindle]

I'm not saying it doesnt work

[unkempt lake]

I'm saying it works and will keep working

[tribal dirge]

maybe next refresh they will add A19 pro which as 12gb of RAM

[unkempt lake]

is it gonna game? No

[ashen spindle]

I'm saying mac swaps aggressively out of ram and over time thats killing ssds so if you run into that constantly you put massive wear on the ssd (which you cant replace)

[tribal dirge]

thats my best guess for next refresh at least

[ashen spindle]

got nothing to do with gaming or websites not working

[unkempt lake]

it's a cheap enough device that it doesn't matter

[ashen spindle]

great so it doesnt matter its ewaste down the line instead of being usable for much longer?

[unkempt lake]

Also it should still last a reasonable lifespan

[tribal dirge]

macbook neo given its price will likely last way longer than many new budget windows laptops at its price.

[lunar elm]

[unkempt lake]

An ipad + keyboard also ends up being ewaste down the line

[lunar elm]

Yes, different OS but damn

[unkempt lake]

This literally just replaces that

Same result at the end

It's a mobile device

[tribal dirge]

Macbook Neo (from what i've gathered from early reviews) is built like a tank unlike most laptops at its price which have poorly designed hinges and plastic chassis.

ive seen so many cheap windows laptops that barely last 2-3 years at my uni mainly due to hinge failures

[unkempt lake]

or people ripping out charging plugs

Or people cracking the chassis in various ways

[loud hemlock]

a lot of these thin plastic chassis crack if you breathe on them wrong

[unkempt lake]

Literally

[ashen spindle]

I dont even understand the logic of this so, sure

[tribal dirge]

yeah, for the price at 499 I think Apple made cuts in the right places. and added value in places where it actually matters like mechanical durability and the screen.

[unkempt lake]

I'm telling you it would have caused the same amount of ewaste, people would have bought an ipad + a keyboard before, now they'll just buy a mac neo

An ipad ends up being ewaste down the line as its all soldered

Same happens with the neo

The neo is literally just an ipad running mac os in a mac chassis

[loud hemlock]

for the price the neo is about the least ewastey device apple could have made

[ashen spindle]

other product bad so its fine this product is bad, great argument okay

[unkempt lake]

if ewaste is the argument then you should complain about every other tablet and mobile device on the market

[tribal dirge]

I agree

[unkempt lake]

Literally it competes with chromebooks

[ashen spindle]

cba dealing with whatbouttism today

[unkempt lake]

Devices which are useless after 3 years

[loud hemlock]

it does not compete with chromebooks at all

[tribal dirge]

eh, not really, its more competing with budget windows laptops.

[unkempt lake]

It's cheap enough that i think people will be willing to spend jsut a bit more to grab one

I think its an easy upsell

[loud hemlock]

people dont buy chromebooks because of that though do they? i was under the impression that people only buy then for children

[unkempt lake]

Also for fleets like schools

[loud hemlock]

but then again ive never seen or used a single chromebook

[tribal dirge]

and for the average non-STEM college student, the Neo is enough to run Canvas and run MS word/google docs.

[sudden imp]

Can you download this on iPhone?

[unkempt lake]

No not really

[loud hemlock]

butr chromebooks are half the price of a neo...

[unkempt lake]

Yes

[pale sigil]

Nope

[unkempt lake]

But i can see someone looking for a computer being like i'll spend a bit more

[unkempt lake]

yes its doable

[pale sigil]

You need jailbreak for any tweaks or a third party app

[pale sigil]

It is?

[unkempt lake]

dude behaving as if sideloading is hard on ios

You can sideload in the eu super easy

[pale sigil]

But you can't sideload revanced

[empty wren]

i sometimes use an alternative flutter coded discord client(electron is heavy), shame it does not have most features

[tribal dirge]

from what i've heard from most schools who run Apple devices, Apple has a better buyback program which saves them a few bucks per year once all costs have been worked out compared to using chromebooks provided by a different contractor.

[unkempt lake]

yes you can

[pale sigil]

What

[sudden imp]

I’m American 🦅

[unkempt lake]

Doable

Just more complicated

[sudden imp]

Do I need to break my phone or it’s warranty?

[pale sigil]

But revanced doesn't really work just sideloading

[unkempt lake]

No

[tribal dirge]

also saves them a lot of money in maintanance fees, since apple charges really really low prices for replacements for school districts.

[unkempt lake]

it works when you sideload it...

[loud hemlock]

for schools taht use ipads now i guess yeah it does make sense.

for schools that buy a fleet of chromebooks for 200 dollars a pop theres no shot they'll be upgrading to neos

[pale sigil]

But you have to run the manager, have it recompile and sideload unsigned every week, sounds like hell.

[tribal dirge]

schools usually operate on 5 year plans, so costs are worked out way far ahead in advance, at least for the schools in my area.

[unkempt lake]

it does it automatically over wifi...

[sudden imp]

Does revanced remove shorts?

[unkempt lake]

When you are on the same wifi as your pc

Literally not even noticeable

[pale sigil]

I don't see iOS

[pale sigil]

Yes it can

[unkempt lake]

its not the same app...

But it does the same thing

[pale sigil]

So it's not revanced then? 😅

[unkempt lake]

shut up dude

[pale sigil]

What is it out of curiosity

[unkempt lake]

It removes ads it literally does everything revanced does

[pale sigil]

Does it replace the actual YouTube app?

Or a third party app?

That was my main point originally, you'd need a separate app on iOS Vs patching the official app no?

[sullen bear]

on ios I just use an adblocker

idk why you would need a seperate app

[pale sigil]

That's why I like revanced

[tribal dirge]

Same

[pale sigil]

No sperate app, you patch the official.

You can run sponsor block on it etc

I use smarttube for my TV though

[sullen bear]

what do u need the youtube app for

never seen the use of it

[tribal dirge]

Yeah same lmao

[brazen panther]

why does my wooting disconnect after i move the cable only a little bit and it just disconnects... then re connects. how can i fix it?

[sudden imp]

🙁 when will we get iOS access

Phone racism

[pale sigil]

...

[latent mural]

on a side note; i was super sceptical of getting an Ipad for school and honestly I love this thing so much. Ipad with a magic keyboard is honestly pretty great.

[sullen bear]

What does the app do what u cant do in browser

[pale sigil]

Why would I use the browser? It's an inferior experience on mobile and tablet

[umbral heron]

You mean uYouPlus

[velvet crown]

Can I use this in my pc

[empty wren]

me wondering why shells/perimeters/walls were missing

50% stock

[sudden imp]

WhT

okay over this break I’m investigating on how to ditch YouTube ads and how to use YouTube music without advertisements

[zenith silo]

If your on android use revanced

Ive been using it for years

For both yt app and yt music

[leaden kiln]

don’t even have to scroll to see

[zenith silo]

Didn't show on my phone 🤷

However gg ios poop

[pale sigil]

That's literally what started this convo lol

[sullen bear]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/qS1A55VLOq lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/Aa4DHXl60O

[fair gull]

hm yes signalrgb... so they arent just causing us pain when people come here cause signalrgb is bad

[sullen bear]

Idk how anyone can use signalrgb and not see its bloatware

[zenith silo]

I see that now

[zenith silo]

I know it's bloatware I just don't care

It works without any effort

[sullen bear]

Same for openrgb no?

[pale sigil]

Idk if I agree with that

[zenith silo]

I downloaded 1 effect, changed the color, and that was it

🤷

[pale sigil]

Last i used it kept spamming me premium shit and it felt like 10 menus to change any function.

[zenith silo]

It took me 5m to setup and find an effect

And I haven't had to touch it in like 2 years

[pale sigil]

Typo

[lunar elm]

im a firm hater of RGB

But I cant be bothered to open the gskill bloat every fuckin time to get rid of the rainbow vomit on the ram

[pastel galleon]

likewise

i go out of my way to buy non RGB components

even if at a premium

[lunar elm]

its rather unfortunate that only gskill had the bins I want here

[pastel galleon]

G.SKILL has non RGB Trident Z sticks

but either way, not like it matters rn because of the rampocalypse...

[lunar elm]

cant find

both my gskill kits are h16a c26 and h24m 8kc40 for their expo/xmp profiles

[pastel galleon]

i gave my old 2x32GB sticks to my dad, they are non RGB

rampocalypse happened so i gave him 64GB as I already have a 2x48GB DDR5-6000 30-36-36-76 kit

his jaw dropped knowing i got my kit for 494.99 CAD lol

[cerulean arch]

Just remove the heatsinks lol

[cerulean arch]

What are you looking for?

[reef patrol]

So don't. Have it running quietly on login and auto disable the RGB.

[lunar elm]

I just slapped a ram fan and called it a day tbh

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

Not so ayayaya

[crimson wigeon]

Who could have seen this coming

[topaz fog]

https://github.com/MrSujano/Sources/issues/6#issuecomment-4037288239

[umbral heron]

An actual clarification from a company in big 26, how refreshing

[ashen spindle]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/apple-macbook-neo-review-can-a-mac-get-by-with-an-iphones-processor-inside/ oh look they also already notice the 8gb being pressured

[umbral heron]

Nah, you just haven't used macOS and it shows

[sullen bear]

I mean all they say is that some things take a few seconds longer to open or that some tabs have to be refreshed

[ashen spindle]

yes?

I didnt mention cyberpunk not runnign since thats not relevant for this but it would be an example and my entire point about this was its already heavily relying on swap usage which will only get worse over the coming years

especially when 16gb m1 airs can be had for the same or cheaper these days.

[umbral heron]

With A19 Pro with 12G of RAM and for $749 I think it would be an amazing machine

[lyric hatch]

Where you getting an m1 air for $499

Don't think anybody in this discord is the target market for this laptop

[vapid ruin]

for a laptop to just watch youtube and do some writing, this is perfect imo

[umbral heron]

Laptop for just watching youtube and do some writing you can get for way cheaper

Not sure if tablet wouldn't be a better option then

[thick elk]

Meh 8gb is really tight though in general. One thing I will say though it makes for a great machine if you need to test safari compatibility on web though.

[alpine patio]

the laptop one core performance is better than the cheese grater mac pro

which is hilarious

[reef patrol]

Dutchlings - What online stores do you use for buying laptops? I need to compare prices to ANSI, to see if getting ISO DA is just too expensive for the niceties. (I use touch typing anyway in practice)

[vapid ruin]

I tried android tablet and I don't like it. Haven't tried Chromebook but my experience with laptop around neo price isn't stellar, just enough for me that time (albeit this is 2020 $600 laptop).

[thick elk]

Compare the prices on tweakers pricewatch.

Actually ordered my last laptop directly from lenovo though.

[reef patrol]

Ah cheers. I doubt Lenovo will have the best prices directly in my price segment. Very casual user 😄

[umbral heron]

My brother has some Xiaomi tablet with keyboard case, he uses it for everything on uni
It was about 400€ or so with everything

[alpine patio]

samsung's tablet pen is quite bad, its a very soft tip which breaks 100% after one drop

and might even wear down with use

i hope they make an apple pen tip soon

[marsh glade]

I get most of my electronics from Megekko

[umbral heron]

Drawing tablet pen tips are peak
I just got a titanium tip for my Boox, it is soooo smooth

[thick elk]

Hmm fair enough I had work money to spend so wanted something a little future proof for my needs.
Actually lot of laptops do not come with ansi here they just have a us int iso layout

[reef patrol]

[thick elk]

Lenovo one does have ansi though

but something to look out for

[alpine patio]

im considering getting one of them soon yea

[reef patrol]

Just don't want to end up with German or something like that. Danish or ANSI/ISO UK 😄

[alpine patio]

im already on my second pen replacement and its kinda on its last legs

[thick elk]

Got you, oh and price wise lenovo site may not be too bad, depending on sales and the model especially if you don't get a windows license.

[lyric hatch]

if you need it for school you want a proper keyboard

in terms of other laptops at this price this one seems like it's on another planet for quality

[ashen spindle]

yeah hope there will be some decent comparisons, it seems like an okay product otherwise, but nothing we dont already have given we have 600usd lunar lake laptops with 16gb that should perform similar or better

[smoky parrot]

I buy my electronics on bol .com BUT only because I get 30% off on their vouchers through my dads job

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-299-core-ultra-7-270k-and-199-core-ultra-5-250k-cpus in other news that 270k price makes all of zen5 basically a bad value lol

[hollow path]

Man bol .com used to be such a good website until dropshippers ruined it

[old marlin]

damn

they are not even bad CPUs

[umbral heron]

8 cores for $300

[lyric hatch]

it's the other things that are going to make it sell people in this price category aren't too worried about performance

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah absolutely

[ashen spindle]

gaming wise there might be a case of due to higher ram prices and ARL needing higher speeds more than zen5 that you get a not better gaming deal for the money

but uh need some more data, most likely anything but a 9800x3d is now just a bad deal lol

[old marlin]

hey at that price you can't really complain

[ashen spindle]

I mean 9700x is the same price these days

so if you are just gaming it is important

[old marlin]

ig so?

[ashen spindle]

and for other workloads you are missing avx512

but have 16 extra cores so thats likely a much bigger advantage lmao

[umbral heron]

Not like you are gonna use AVX512 in anything but like 3 emulators for home use

[reef patrol]

PS3 Emu players seething

[umbral heron]

By the way 9600x is 10€ cheaper than 9700x here

[ashen spindle]

well for non gaming there are more applications

[rough osprey]

cant windows just copy the way apple handles hdr

[umbral heron]

Sure, pretty sure it's quite efficient in video transcode by now too

[umbral heron]

HDR works well, just Auto HDR... not so much...

[rough osprey]

nah normal hdr weird too

[ashen spindle]

hdr is mostly fine on 11

sdr in hdr mode and such are the issues

[old marlin]

biggest issues is just a couple programs really throwing a fit and screenshots/screen recordings being blown out

latter thing supposedly is fixable but I couldn't get it to work nicely

[rough osprey]

how can i make non hdr stuff look the same as in sdr

[fair gull]

gl

[ashen spindle]

well there is a tonemapping fix for that but it breaks actual hdr so pick your poision

this is a decent overview

[fair gull]

the latter is fixed by not having stuff open that messes up the HDR like steam

as in the window is minimized/in tray

[old marlin]

what

[fair gull]

yes

[old marlin]

didn't even know that

[fair gull]

i get clean screenshots with hdr on by just minimizing steam

although i also had to force hdr colorspace in firefox

[old marlin]

huh

yea that seems to work lol

[fair gull]

and only god and microsofts ai know why its so wack

[reef patrol]

Ugh... new AI branded CPUs. Are these just enshittified versions of existing ones? 😄

y so many variables

[ashen spindle]

its the exact same as before just new tiers inbetween

[reef patrol]

That wasn't my question to be fair. Are they just existing CPUs with cores removed and whatnot, with GPU cores replacing them

[ashen spindle]

huh

[old marlin]

which ones are you talking about lol

AMDs "AI" line of CPUs is mostly new ones

well "new" now, was new on release

[reef patrol]

So actual, new generation. Not just rebranded existing ones with worse core performance. Thanks.

[ashen spindle]

no there is no new generation of anyone

[reef patrol]

I'm getting mixed messages here

[ashen spindle]

I assumed you meant the ones I linked but they dont have ai in the name so which ones are you talking about

[old marlin]

yea but strix point/halo was new back then and introduced the nomenclature, not sure if that is what mansen meant

[reef patrol]

No links. Just a raw question from me browsing laptops.

[old marlin]

which is why I asked which he meant

[ashen spindle]

yeah need to know which ones you mean

[reef patrol]

On one hand I see laptops using "old" CPUs like a 7735HS whatnot. And then ones that are three digit AI branded ones.

[ashen spindle]

so amds mobile lineup

[reef patrol]

Yes - Laptops. I've been talking laptops all morning tbf 😄

[old marlin]

yea those are partially just rebrands for the chinese market (2XX ones specifically) and then actually new CPUs (3XX ones)

well new back when they released

[ashen spindle]

idk I just saw you talking about cpus 😛 and the ai branding is over a year old so wasnt sure what you mean

[old marlin]

the strix point ones are probably among the best mobile CPUs out rn?

[reef patrol]

To be fair I haven't shopped for CPUs since the 7000 series came out. And laptops years before that. Long before any of this AI shit started infecting PCs 😄

[old marlin]

strix halo is kinda inefficient iirc

[umbral heron]

Ryzen AI is basically Zen 5, but with their NPU and newer RDNA in integrated GPU

[old marlin]

zen 5 basically always has an npu

[rough osprey]

saturation is kinda weird too

[ashen spindle]

ai 4xx is the latest refresh that should have some models out by now

[umbral heron]

wa?

[ashen spindle]

ai 3xx is zen5 mobile so the latest gen they are mostly the same

ai max+ is strix halo those are the massive iGPU parts

intel is on core ultra 2xx/3xx series

[reef patrol]

ic ic. So a... AI 5 340 is a Ryzen 5 mobile CPU with AI shit on top? It would be slightly faster than ... I guess what... a 7th gen i5 mobile equivalent?

[old marlin]

actually, Ryzen 9000 "Fire Range" is the big exception, so 9850HX, 9955HX and 9955HX3D

[old marlin]

there is no new AI shit on top

it is just a regular AMD cpu with AI branding, NPUs are basically standard in all modern CPUs

[lunar elm]

im highly thinking of bundling a 265kb860i +32gb ddr5 to a friend for exactly what I paid

And no, it is original pricing ddr5 before the boom

[reef patrol]

So not worse, not better (ignoring AI uses) So price is more important if I were to match two laptops with that difference. Alright. One step closer I guess 😄

[ashen spindle]

oh no it would be quite a lot faster, 7th gen is old this is the latest gen lol

[reef patrol]

Ah right. 9th gen on desktop already

[old marlin]

idk why you assume that them having "AI" in the name makes them slower?

[reef patrol]

Because that's usually what happens, when you need to add something more to a footprint.

Gotta take something out to make room for more.

[ashen spindle]

now you're mixing things up, amds desktop stuff is 9xxx but they dont call it i5 its r5, I though you meant intel 7th gen which is like over a decade ago

[reef patrol]

Loud groaning

[ashen spindle]

I mean i5 for intel r5 for ryzen is quite clear xD

[old marlin]

ok, ALL modern CPUS have NPUs integrated, that goes for basically all consumer desktop and laptop CPUs, yet they are still (usually) faster than previous gen stuff, much more importantly they made it in a smaller node so it just is more efficient (and therefore faster) than last gen

[reef patrol]

Alright alright - Concrete example. Similar price.
AI 5 340 vs 7735HS

340 wins, cause newer generation. What would the latest mobile generation be before they changed to AI then 😛

[umbral heron]

So Zen 6 will be 10xxx and AI 500 then

[old marlin]

well the naming was ass so the 7000 only means when it released

[ashen spindle]

7x3x means thats zen3, 7x4x would be zen4, ai 3xx is zen5

[old marlin]

this held true until the AI renaming which, which honestly made the names a bit clearer again

[ashen spindle]

8x4x is also zen4 it was just released a year later so they increased the leading number

yeah

[old marlin]

note that the 7000 only denotes release year, the important number is the 600 and the 40

[ashen spindle]

meanwhile on intel you would want core ultra 2xxV, the ending V is denoting lunar lake or core ultra 3xx which is panther lake that just came out

[old marlin]

so an AI 340 would have been an 9440U

[reef patrol]

So something like this Omnibook would be a decent purchase (ignoring HP, ignoring build quality - Just the innards for now)

https://www.paradigit.nl/HP-OmniBook-3-NGAI-15-fn0556nd/80068874/product?channable=00958d6964003830303638383734f9

649€ for a AI5 340 / 16GB RAM

[ashen spindle]

yeah

[reef patrol]

So far so good. Now I have a baseline I can use to compare sales and outlet return prices with here at least 😄

[ashen spindle]

ai5 340 or core ultra 5 226v are probably the two options you want to look at for cpus

[reef patrol]

Yeah Danish prices are definitely fucked. Same laptop is more like... 870€ here.

[ashen spindle]

226v has a bit better low power efficency and idle, 340 has bit better performance so honestly any OEM can make them lose or win based on bios and thermal skill issue lol

[tribal dirge]

oh wow, thats kind of crazy

[lunar elm]

ayyy ammmm deee

[reef patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nickelodeon-puppets-the-barbarian-and-troll-tbatt-gqnHlkg3O9xAIWnEmS

[umbral heron]

If you were able to melt 8-pin of all connectors...

[dull hollow]

mmm crispy

[cerulean arch]

I make sure it doesnt happen haha

[steady sail]

How good is this thermal paste?

[umbral heron]

Something a bit better than MX-4, really decent

[sullen bear]

ngl, as long as its half decent it wont make that much of a difference with top end paste

[sinful quest]

As long as it's not literal dog shit you should be fine

[ashen spindle]

yeah any paste coming with your cooler si fine for stock usage

[frozen ingot]

pretty sure I used the paste that came with my phantom spirit, temps check out with the advertised figures

[steady sail]

So if i use mx-6 its good

[sinful quest]

I would also be fine with mx4

Just spread it clean

[steady sail]

I got the mx-6 with the AIO

[sinful quest]

Doesn't make a big difference at all, the cooler makes the difference

[tribal dirge]

Decent, but mmmm, duronaut

[tribal dirge]

I think that goes for any paste tbh

[sinful quest]

Damn is duronaut new?

[tribal dirge]

Spread an even thin layer

[tribal dirge]

Relatively speaking yeah

[sinful quest]

Yea of course lol

[sinful quest]

I have some rest of kryonaut

[tribal dirge]

Supposedly according to them it's very stable and it can last way longer without needing to re-paste

[sinful quest]

Got it pretty cheap

[tribal dirge]

Also better performance than kryonaut from 3rd party testing

[sinful quest]

Well tbf.. I got Kryonaut like 6ish years ago

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, but I'm really liking duronaut because i found it to be pretty good for direct-die too like for laptops

[sinful quest]

Hmm
I can just say Kryonaut is doing fine for me, I only "reaplied" it once since I got it and that was cause I swapped out my mobo CPU and RAM

When ddr5 32 gig still was around 100€

[tribal dirge]

Real

[sinful quest]

I am really happy with the upgrade, icl. I like AMD more than intel

Also the 7800X3D is pretty neat

[frozen ingot]

that's what I've heard, the expensive stuff supposedly lasts a bit longer

but performance-wise the difference is small

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

[sinful quest]

Tbh it's not that hard to reapply thermal paste. At least for the average nerd who knows how to build PCs

[frozen ingot]

nah, I think its more if you don't plan on swapping anything out for like half a decade or longer, longer lasting paste could make sense in that regard

[sinful quest]

Hmm I've never had any issues with the thermal paste not lasting long enough

[frozen ingot]

or maybe if you really push your rig on the regular and constantly heatcycle

[frozen ingot]

some pastes will dry out over time but as long as it stays in place it sorta does its job still

[steady sail]

and da pc is up and running

[sinful quest]

Yippi

[sullen bear]

hugeeeeeeeee

[steady sail]

tho i have to create a better Fan curve

[sullen bear]

what did u get for pc parts?

[steady sail]

nothing LOL

i just replaced my broken AIO

[sullen bear]

ohh

good

all my homies hate AIOs

[steady sail]

"broken" the pump is acting weird

[bright briar]

what did you end up getting

[frozen ingot]

liquid cooling never made much sense to me unless you run the extreme high end of powerhungry components/do a lot of OC or live somewhere hot af without AC

[steady sail]

these

[bright briar]

good choice

[frozen ingot]

even the best/largest AIOs aren't that much better than the best air/tower options either for most part

bit confused why TR is selling peerless assassin and phantom spirit alongside each other when phantom is just a slightly upgraded peerless assassin

they basically cost the same too

[heady hazel]

for me it was always about optics and with certain ram kits you run into issues with some aircoolers

[ashen spindle]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Ryzen-AI-NPUs-Linux-LLMs first usecase of an NPU besides teams blur lol @halcyon moss if you want to try it

[frozen ingot]

that's a fair point, can't have too tall heatsinks on the ram modules

[halcyon moss]

Hah, nice.
Npu is very slow compared to a GPU, but we'll see

[frozen ingot]

but if you need rams with extra large heatsinks it sorta plays into the high-end build philosophy where liquid cooling is preferred or needed

[umbral heron]

Great, CPU shortage when?

[ashen spindle]

never

doesnt change the ram you need and npu even at higher efficency isnt replacing gpus

so end of 27 probably launch of new consoles likely as expected

[steady sail]

ah yes another xbox based PC

[reef patrol]

Beats a PC based Xbox.

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean all consoles now are pc based

[fair gull]

looks at original xbox

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

first time a console is basically the same hardware on gpu side at least and not semicustom

[latent mural]

Lmao, I’ve never felt more happy about snatching up a 5070ti from b&h when they were still msrp. I was on Reddit and saw that 899 is considered a good deal on the cards?

850 is the best deal I’ve found outside microcenter, that’s actually painful

[sullen bear]

899 cows?