🔌│tech

[pastel galleon]

one sec

[tribal dirge]

fully disabling VRR also disables Vesa Adaptive Sync, AMD FreeSync, and should also disable Nvidia G-Sync

[pastel galleon]

wait the image quality is bad

[tribal dirge]

well Adaptive Sync is disabled, that means no VRR is being used at all

[pastel galleon]

however

no dice

[tribal dirge]

should be able to use ULMB 2

since VRR is disabled

[pastel galleon]

and it should be fine because I exported the .bin file from my 9070 XT system, to then use it on my Framework 16 RX 7700S system, without VRR

[tribal dirge]

yeah, linux settings can be a bit weird with the GPU drivers

[pastel galleon]

so another update, I managed to get CRU running on my Framework 16

I'm thinking of attempting to import the PG27AQN file to see of it works

[vagrant pagoda]

gawd damn china got andoird blackberrys

[unkempt lake]

https://www.androidheadlines.com/exclusive-oneplus-collapse

rip one plus

[empty wren]

Asus also done with phones apparently

OnePlus at least is basically oppos NA entry

[kindred surge]

Guys is it possible to add an macro to wooting like this:

Windows + Z = Types „>“

[reef patrol]

Oh joy...

[reef patrol]

Using macro apps such as Autohotkey? Absolutely.

Also not really a tech question.

[nimble arch]

You will buy one of three phones and you will enjoy it.

[magic minnow]

They also released a new update that doesn’t let you roll back on some phones

https://xdaforums.com/t/critical-warning-coloros-16-0-3-501-updates-permanent-anti-rollback-arb-fuse-blown-do-not-downgrade.4775930/

[reef patrol]

Lovely.

[smoky parrot]

I'm really sad because I like my oneplus

[reef patrol]

same.

[smoky parrot]

Guess we don't update anymore heh

[reef patrol]

Don't really care. Not like I'm going to do any custom ROM shit.

But it's a terrible image to have regardless. But it won't matter if the company will be gone by the time I buy my next phone I guess 😄

[smoky parrot]

True

[pastel galleon]

since my parents are on a plan, they will get new phones in a few months. I'll probably try GrapheneOS on my mom's old Pixel 8 Pro, as my friend is having a pretty good experience with it on his Pixel 9a

[smoky parrot]

I have a OnePlus 13

[reef patrol]

13R here. 🙂

[halcyon moss]

aka, they are paying too much.

[nimble arch]

I had the OnePlus One back in the day. Great phone, but then I switched to iPhone and haven’t looked back.

[reef patrol]

Thanks Robin. Now we're DEFINITELY sure Y'all are dying.

https://tenor.com/view/please-disperse-explosions-nonchalant-calm-gif-5120778

[nimble arch]

Yeah, they’re dead.

Given how much we use phones for, why buy anything that’s not Apple, Google, or Samsung?

[smoky parrot]

Might get a samsung flippyty flop phone

[pastel galleon]

i told them that but they wouldnt listen

at least i have been using second hand phones for a while

[umbral heron]

Tried just now https://github.com/PhialsBasement/wine-adobe-installers and... yeah, Photoshop just works
Like double click on installer, it installs, launches, GPU hardware acceleration, everything works just fine
Only drag-n-drop doesn't work on Wayland, same issue as the guy who made it mentioned, but yeah, very likely it'll end up in the next Proton version
Installer didn't work only becasue of MSHTML - Adobe still uses Internet Explorer in their stuff

[umbral heron]

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/microsoft-ceo-warns-that-we-must-do-something-useful-with-ai-or-theyll-lose-social-permission-to-burn-electricity-on-it/

[steady sail]

Ah yes

Microslop PLS

[frozen ingot]

ahh, mr slopya

[reef patrol]

He's so close to getting it.

[steady sail]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-978532213316794273

[crimson wigeon]

Yes everyone needs to become better sloperators

[steady sail]

I love this line "People need to say, 'Oh, I pick up this AI skill, and now I'm a better provider of some product or service in the real economy,"

[umbral heron]

This year I had at least 3 time situations where people at work came to me for advice because they asked AI and it gave them nonsense
Therefore, I'm better provider of service without AI

[steady sail]

Can i remove my AI skill from my skill tree ?

[steady sail]

CalsAI please tell us the “Meaning of life”

[crimson wigeon]

No respecs, sorry. You're gonna have to start all over

[umbral heron]

Femboys in maid costumes

[steady sail]

[smoky parrot]

Woah

[crimson wigeon]

How interesting just look at that

[analog sinew]

yeah the ""real"" economy

[marsh glade]

Is this real economy in the room with you now?

[reef patrol]

It's in the kitchen.

[marsh glade]

I hope it brings snacks

[nimble arch]

A few more of the underground stations I pass through on my commute now have 5G once you get below street level. Soon I’ll have a 5G SA connection for my entire commute

It’s certainly taking them long enough to deploy 5G on London Underground.

Better late than never though.

[sullen bear]

Now implement airconditioning

[nimble arch]

Me when the central line

Depths of hell

[sullen bear]

Worst transit I’ve ever been in

But always on time (or at least common enough)

[nimble arch]

I don’t have to use that line, thankfully.

The District, DLR, Jubilee, and Mildmay lines are what I use the most.
Rare usage of the Elizabeth line which is very cool (and very new).

[sullen bear]

Elizabeth line is nice

Iirc jubilee was also ass

[halcyon moss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1qj07h5/i_just_tried_to_install_the_new_radeon_driver_and/

lol. poster gets roasted haha

[reef patrol]

I mean... they ain't wrong. 😄

I do find it amusing how ComfyUI is just something you get bundled with now.

[vapid ruin]

this is actually nice. Especially with LM Studio and comfy UI. Since with this installer you can immediately get to gen AI

[reef patrol]

Might end AMD in some hot water ala. Grok/Twitter.

[halcyon moss]

thats what i was thinking as well

[vapid ruin]

you need to source the AI else where though (unless one already included), so as long as AMD doesn't provide AI that can gen NSFW, they'll be fine.

[halcyon moss]

yeah right..
its 34gb, thats not something you sneak in

[reef patrol]

I mean as a bundled item 😛

[reef patrol]

Eh I suppose that's true. There is an awful lot of YT tutorials for the adult side of things though. Bit of a slippery slope.

[vapid ruin]

AMD doesn't even own any of them. Comfy iirc is open source. Unless they get fat stacks from any of em, it'll be fine.

[halcyon moss]

i dont know amuse, but lm studio is closed, but the rest is open

[unkempt lake]

guys

fuck team group

[vapid ruin]

why

[unkempt lake]

Did an rma of an sd card and after 3 weeks of 0 news since they received it i get this update

@vapid ruin

[vapid ruin]

I see

[unkempt lake]

8 weeks turnaround time to replace a defective sd card

Absolutely moronic

What the fuck

@umbral heron

[pale sigil]

Have you seen the new 6gb thing

Their own ai shite

[halcyon moss]

I have not, so I reserve my judgment.

[ashen spindle]

new
year old screenshot

[pale sigil]

Oh lol

I saw it on reddit, didn't notice the release

[sudden imp]

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/microsoft-ceo-warns-that-we-must-do-something-useful-with-ai-or-theyll-lose-social-permission-to-burn-electricity-on-it/

“we have a product that does nothing currently and we need to find a use to justify how much money we’re burning that isn’t ours”

[magic minnow]

We got memes

[sudden imp]

The only use I’ve seen for ai that is lucrative is propaganda and bot farming

[umbral heron]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-20/palantir-ceo-says-ai-to-make-large-scale-immigration-obsolete

[nimble arch]

That’s why the right wing love AI so much

[ashen spindle]

I mean I'm all for that

we should test run the ai scan on elon first

[umbral heron]

Gotta make AutoDoc from Fallout, but load Grok onto it

[analog sinew]

oh he said it

karp used to have morals till he got a whiff of that billionaire huzzah now hes playing by thiels pipe

how you can consider yourself superior with that hair cut is beyond me

[umbral heron]

Evil Taika Waititi be like

[patent flax]

where do I go for support??

[lyric hatch]

https://wooting.io/support

[crimson wigeon]

For community support in the aptly named #1019755933959733258 , for actual Wooting support see above

[patent flax]

my keyboard cant connect after updating

I even did the restore option and it will still cant connect after updating

[silent grove]

hey guys
was wondering whether or not I should get a 9070 or the xt model?
was wondering which one would be worth more for the buck

[ashen spindle]

you gotta say the prices or we wont know that either..

[umbral heron]

https://social.circl.lu/@gcve/115854648676226236

gcve.eu (@[e-mail])

Luxembourg, 2026/01/07 - The GCVE initiative is proud to announce the public launch of db.gcve.eu , a new open and freely accessible vulnerability advisory database. The platform aggregates and correlates vulnerability information from more than 25 public sources, including GCVE GNA (Numbering Authority) sources and other established vulnerability databases.

🔗 For more details - gcve.eu/2026/01/07/gcve-db-ann…
🔗 db.gcve.eu/

#cve #gcve #cybersecurity #vulnerabilitymanagement #vulnerability

social.circl.lu · Jan 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

[tribal dirge]

locally at that!

local AI >>>>>> cloud AI

[crimson wigeon]

Would be funny if it was all cloud based AI and still that huge

[tribal dirge]

the cutting edge stuff wont be realistic to run inferenced locally unfortunately

but usually the smaller and more rudimentary models are good enough for most people

[compact knot]

Weird question, but has anyone seen on the Wootility the Remap key where you can open browser by using Fn and the Web key. How do i change this to open twitch not just a browser? any way to change domain link

[bright briar]

you right that is a weird question

|| ||

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/esports-faze-karrigan-csgo-eyebrow-raise-gif-26680944

[crimson wigeon]

That's an operating system level thing, so ask that to change what the web browser key does

[bright briar]

doesnt brave shield block youtube ads? I got my first yt ad today

[reef patrol]

No?

[bright briar]

weird

never experience an ad on yt till today

i feel betrayed

[ashen spindle]

yes its supposed to, thats like the whole stick of them still supportin manivest v2 in their own way

[reef patrol]

You still need to actually add adblocker addons that use V2.

[ashen spindle]

uh no?

hell its even working in private browsing by default iirc

[reef patrol]

It has - never- worked here without adding uBlock.

[ashen spindle]

well its supposed to and does for me

[bright briar]

thats what i remember for some reason i got yt premium ad twice

im spamming yt videos and now i havent got any

weird....

i was also in private mode

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-sus-bro-cat-gif-14584810346138711389

[sudden imp]

They know

[silent grove]

you’re right that’s on me.
nearest microcenter has it at a discount for $650 for the asrock challenger xt Model while the non-xt model retails at around $549

[silent grove]

actually checking prices now,
the non xt model is currently going for $500

[frank magnet]

Hi all, my keyboard got delay response. Can someone help.

[empty wren]

#1019755933959733258

[pastel galleon]

that doesn't seem all that weird imo

but that sounds like a macro function, so not something that can be done

well not yet anyway

[charred nexus]

is there like some ways to check what caused an AMD GPU driver timeout, cuz lately my GPU is doing this and I tried DDU reinstall Windows and it still does that sometimes.

[crimson wigeon]

If you're unlucky it's your GPU failing, if lucky it's simply the driver blowing up at whatever complex the software you're running does

[reef patrol]

Bad game? Try a different one and see if it still craps out.

[crimson wigeon]

I've experienced this a lot when playing slop like Fortnite with raytracing enabled

[charred nexus]

yeah I'm playing Minecraft Overwatch 2 and Apex Legends

they all crash on me sometime

sometimes even idle or watching YouTube

[reef patrol]

So it's either a catastrophic GPU driver issue, something else in the system... or a part's dyin g.

[sullen bear]

Could be unstable drivers

Had it happen plenty of times on previous nvidia driver too, now its fixed again

[charred nexus]

so in asking like can I test or is there anyway of finding out what cause the crash

[charred nexus]

yeah this is the first reason I thought of, cuz I have experience of Cyberpunk having a driver time out with rt on cuz the driver is unstable

[reef patrol]

Do you have a second graphics card you can try? Borrow one from a friend for a day and see if it's fixed.
Cause beyond just reinstalling an older GPU driver, you kind of have to swap parts one at a time to find the issue.

[sullen bear]

Whocrashed if u havent already

[charred nexus]

but I don't remember updating driver

[charred nexus]

I have a second GPU but it's in a build being used right now

[sullen bear]

You should try and see what whocrashed says if it can find crashdumps

[charred nexus]

does this work on only a black screen cuz it's not a full system crash

[sullen bear]

One way to find out

[charred nexus]

hmmm

[ashen spindle]

if your memory is using XMP/EXPO try disabling that

instable memoc is a common gpud river thats not crashing the entire system

[charred nexus]

wait but wouldn't it fail memtest?

[crimson wigeon]

Sometimes it can pass memtest but still be unstable in real world loads

[halcyon moss]

memtest is not a test that works 100% of the time.

[charred nexus]

right

[halcyon moss]

i had a laptop with a new stick, crashed constantly when using it. memtest overnight showed 0 errors.

removed memstick, all was ok again

[charred nexus]

right i disabled xmp

but like I won't know if it is the problem tho

[ashen spindle]

Correct

[charred nexus]

cuz it just crash randomly

[ashen spindle]

you’ll have to try and see if it still crashes now or not

[reef patrol]

You keep changing your name back, so allow me to be clear. We do not allow names that use weird and special symbols in the first word. It makes moderation exceedingly difficult, cause we can't search for names.

[charred nexus]

ok my bad, I didn't know this was a thing

[reef patrol]

Not reading the #❗│important rules is entirely your fault. Read them or don't, we expect you to follow them all the same 😄

[charred nexus]

yeah no, Its my fault, I have been using the symbols for a while on this server. I thought that wasn't a problem. Again I'm sorry.

[lunar elm]

oknice

[charred nexus]

wait wasn't this like in 2019 or something

[tribal dirge]

usually I run memtest to verify system level stability and then I boot into windows and run OCCT memory test to verify OS level stability. for me this works the most reliably to find the most stable memory configurations.

[nimble arch]

Going to tell my kids this was Captain America: Civil War

[tribal dirge]

sometimes memtest doesnt pick up on certain things that OCCT does in my experience

[marsh glade]

This is great, pit them against each other so that they're too distracted to band together and fight the real oppressors - humanity

[lunar elm]

apparently so

but wouldnt be surprised if it will still happen today

[charred nexus]

yeah I remember it was some time around CES

[charred nexus]

does WHEA mean anything in OCCT

[tribal dirge]

That's a windows error that it detected

Could be related to your memory if it's a memory test that you are running

[charred nexus]

yeah I'm running memory test

I got multiple WHEA while running without XMP

[tribal dirge]

thats not good

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s not stable then lol

[tribal dirge]

yeah, I mean, might be a pin making bad contact with the memory module? could try re-seating the memory

[ashen spindle]

Unlikely with memory but maybe

More likely just a defective stick

[tribal dirge]

its easy enough to do its worth a try

[sullen bear]

How old is your ram?

[charred nexus]

like a few years old?

2-3 maybe it's DDR4

[charred nexus]

after you said it my system froze

[sullen bear]

At least ram has long warranty generally

[charred nexus]

wait but how is this a thing if it runs fine-ish with xmp on

[sullen bear]

Does it run fine ish though

[tribal dirge]

does it actually though?

[cerulean vessel]

what do you guys think a appropriate price for a og 60he + alumaze case is? i’m trynna sell my used one and don’t really know how much to post it for

[sullen bear]

At least 3$

[charred nexus]

I mean it does have WHEA but only a GPU time out in like 10-20mins of gaming

at least it doesn't freeze with benchmarks or stress test

[tribal dirge]

any error detected in OCCT is generally bad

esp if its a WHEA error

[sullen bear]

I dont get this

Gpu drivers arent stored on the gpu per se

[charred nexus]

right...

is it possible that it's the CPU that fails

[marsh glade]

You could use our outlet store as a reference point for what Wooting considers a reasonable discount for refurbished products and older-gen products
https://wooting.io/outlet

[sullen bear]

Yes but unlikely

[ashen spindle]

almost no chance its the cpu

[tribal dirge]

possible but highly unlikely given the symptoms you are describing

[charred nexus]

right i do have some other memory on my hand i might test it with those

[tribal dirge]

yes try a different memory module

assuming its a known working module

[cerulean vessel]

thanks

[charred nexus]

that I need to test, cuz it's my old sticks

[tribal dirge]

ah

[charred nexus]

oh shi I couldn't find them

I really don't wanna mess with the itx build

might just unplug my opnsense box and steal this memory to test it's way easier

[ashen spindle]

if its multiple sticks could try just using one

[charred nexus]

I already pull them out of my opnsense box lmao

uh

could this be a Windows problem

[tribal dirge]

Doubt it.

[charred nexus]

cuz um

I started it with the sticks in my opnsense box

it froze

and I restarted windows

and started occt

it thrown an WHEA 1 sec in

whats the chance of 2 set of faulty ram

[ashen spindle]

whea errors arent just limited to ram

[charred nexus]

right

[ashen spindle]

so it could be faulty ram and something else

I guess the only thing that could match both would be the board having issues?

but thats also not common

[charred nexus]

it couldn't be windows

cuz I started into another install of Win10

it straight up won't boot

can't get it into login

it would restart

[ashen spindle]

whea errors are hardware, idk of any way software causes those

[charred nexus]

yeah I'd thought so

could it be the board tho

[sullen bear]

Could be board or cpu then yea

[charred nexus]

huh

[vivid oracle]

Whats the difference between the 60HE+ v1 and the current 60HE+?

[ashen spindle]

cpu issues just rarely cause a driver crash and nothing else

but its always a chance ofc even if its like a 1% or whatever number

then again you said it wont boot so idk

[charred nexus]

but I couldn't really test the CPU or board or at least not with a spare cooler no?

my itx build have the same socket but it's a 120 aio

[sullen bear]

What cpu is it even

[charred nexus]

mem test on that with the 11900K would throttle instantly

[ashen spindle]

could just use the same cooler just dont run it at full load

[charred nexus]

11900K

[ashen spindle]

if its defective it'll likely cause issues even at lower powerlimits

[charred nexus]

the ITX is a 10600K

[charred nexus]

huh

[charred nexus]

it froze instantly with the ran from the opnsense box

[ashen spindle]

like limit the powerdraw so it wont cause thermal shutdown and you can still test it with that cooler

[charred nexus]

even if it boots into login

[charred nexus]

like do it in the bios or what

[ashen spindle]

yea

[charred nexus]

or is it better if I take the 10600K and put it on the board

[ashen spindle]

would be the simpler way probably, use that and see if the setup still throws errors

[charred nexus]

cuz I pretty much know that that build don't throw any error

at least I tested it with occt

for 30mins in CPU and memory it doesn't throw error

[charred nexus]

i think it might be the cpu

i booted up with the other CPU

running occt cpu and memory test

[ashen spindle]

congrats? got a shiny then xD cpu that throws issues like its the ram

[charred nexus]

15 mins haven’t have any whea yet

[ashen spindle]

always fun when its just super unclear but currently might be cheaper to replace cpu over the ram anyway lol

[charred nexus]

that original one wouldn’t throw it in 2 mins

[charred nexus]

ngl if i’m replacing it im not going for the same platform

cuz if i’m replacing it im not buying a 11900K again

if i’m buying a 10900K it’s like 280 300 on the used market

[ashen spindle]

oof

[charred nexus]

that’s crazy price for an almost 6 year old chip

[charred nexus]

also ngl i’m not trusting a 5 years old chip for that kind of price

who knew what they went through

[fair gull]

received wireview pro 2 and despite measuring as best as i can beforehand it doesnt fit by a few mm

[umbral heron]

Is that a screwdriver or microphone?

[nimble arch]

It’s a [redacted]

[umbral heron]

https://www.dexerto.com/anime/evangelion-gets-official-power-tool-collab-and-its-as-weird-as-it-sounds-3307967/

8Nm, it's a beast

[bold coyote]

screwdriver

https://tenor.com/view/heres-my-screwdriver-rick-mitchell-the-mitchells-vs-the-machines-i-got-my-tool-here-heres-my-tool-gif-21432090

[gusty kiln]

Surprised the 9850x3d is only 499

[ashen spindle]

probably because its basically the same chip xD

cant really OC it a ton either

[rough osprey]

where reviews

[reef patrol]

LTT in ruins.

[umbral heron]

I don't get LTT screwdrivers
It's just Fixit kits, but more expensive

[nimble arch]

I like my precision screw driver kit

[fair gull]

yesnt. i do like the bearing spin in the LTT driver more and the way the case attaches the lid/detaches it

but thats not worth paying double of what the ifixit kit costs

[gusty kiln]

It is like 400 mhz higher. They could have charged whatever they want on a halo products

[ashen spindle]

no because the 9950x3d is just 200 more and its just the same vcache die from that chip

9800x3d is just the worse bins

[gusty kiln]

9950x3dx2 price 👀

[sudden imp]

This is exactly what we need

[iron wave]

How Impossible is it to DIY conduit in existing low density residential construction without tearing walls open?

If this was my house the walls would be cut open and patched back up by now but noooooo we can't have nice things.

[blissful halo]

It’s very much possible but it also requires you having the schematics of all wiring and plumbing of the house (if you want to play the safe game)

[iron wave]

I suppose figuring out how to navigate the attic is also a problem.

[blissful halo]

Studs will generally be your biggest enemy depending on how you’re planning to do this

I’d check the legality and rules of running conduits, cause it can easily become a fire hazard.

[iron wave]

Seems like it shouldn't be an issue but fair point.

[blissful halo]

I know that there’s some rules regarding it, but I don’t deal with this stuff myself. Got an electrician and builder who knows this better than me

[empty zodiac]

1

[iron wave]

It's not like I'd be doing it in a 10 story building, but fire code should be public info.

[vagrant pagoda]

why conduit?

[iron wave]

Exterior walls have installation. It would make future changes easier.

I would still need to get approval from the people who own the place, but no drywall.

[umbral heron]

Slop incoming

[crimson wigeon]

Oh boy

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bapccanada/s/G93JwxwnIX

@bright briar

[gusty kiln]

@ashen spindle giga oof for intel

[ashen spindle]

yup

probably mostly because outlook is bad due to yields and supply constraints

aka ptl cant clock like shit on 18a

[gusty kiln]

Rip

No wonder amd said they are sold out through 2026

Cuz there's no alternative

[ashen spindle]

but that was clear after ces, top sku regressed by like 400mhz

[gusty kiln]

Damn

[ashen spindle]

its still a good option vs amd this year

because ???? no rdna4 apus so nothing new till next ces

but the node isnt great

[gusty kiln]

Everyone but intel on the ai gravy train lol

[vagrant pagoda]

so my google in firefox takes forever when clicking links. google much have some new script i guess

[fair gull]

works fine for me

no added delays or such

[vagrant pagoda]

yea idk whats up it pins a cpu core for a good 10-15 seconds

and my blocked items in ublock goes from 20 to 150

it also only dose it for addressbar searches

[fair gull]

tried addressbar search real quick. works the same as manually going to google and searching

i somehow doubt zen has smth ontop of FF source code that would mitigate this if it was some script stuff

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah its super odd

[fickle ore]

there was nothing about bad yields, just supply constraints

[fickle ore]

Q4 was estimate beat, they just guided not so good Q1

[ashen spindle]

yields below expectations for demand

[gusty kiln]

Panther lake looked good, but if they can't supply them then it's a big whop

[ashen spindle]

ptl is mixed, its a good product due to the gpu, the cpu is literally the same shit as before with 400mhz less

[fair gull]

tried in private browsing yet?

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah same its odd

[ashen spindle]

lmfao

[vagrant pagoda]

13% is big

[fickle ore]

proof?

[ashen spindle]

of what?

intel announced it at ces and max clocks are 5.1ghz, its the same core IP as ARL/LNL just on 18A and they clock to 5.5/5.6 on N3

[fickle ore]

that "the cpu is the same shit as before with 400mhz less"

[ashen spindle]

heres the 5.1 ghz

[fickle ore]

different process and u say its teh same shit, thats a bit too much

[ashen spindle]

the core is the same IP

[vagrant pagoda]

also max 4p

[ashen spindle]

in the same way amd has Zen5 on different process but its the same core still

[fickle ore]

Also I wouldnt gloat about 13% drop when its risen over 100% in couple months 😛

[vagrant pagoda]

which means it will be crushed in cpu heavy tasks

[fickle ore]

u guys r such amd fanboys

[ashen spindle]

nah the e cores are solid these days

[vagrant pagoda]

4+8+4 vs 8+16

[ashen spindle]

I'm calling ptl bad where it is but its still the better laptop offering this year since amd isnt having anything new

liek amd laptop decisions with old ass gpu ip are dogshit

but that doesnt make ptl cpu side any better

[fickle ore]

do what u want but its not objective

[ashen spindle]

amd stock just doesnt suffer from it because nobody cares when mi400 exists and intel has nothing for ai

I mean its a fact that its literally the same core IP with lower clocks???

its nice that 18A works and all but that doesnt change what it means for the product

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah also i am 100% in the boat that the lower core count is because 18 yeild is so low

[ashen spindle]

that idk could be, but not going to bet on it

[vagrant pagoda]

1/2 the p and 3/4 the e

and worse of all, half the cache

[ashen spindle]

also its funny how I argue vs dag that intel products suck and vs dashi I need to keep saying arl is insane value because its so cheap when you want anything but a 9800x3d performance lol

[vagrant pagoda]

you sure its a new gpu core? im pretty sure mobile is the same as arrow lake

[ashen spindle]

lmao no gpu is Xe3 thats why battery and all is so much better

the silly thing is they label it as battlemage despite it not being Xe2 anymore

literally two step ahead of ARL igpu

[vagrant pagoda]

ah thats why i was confused i read battlemage

[ashen spindle]

yup, no clue why they decided to do that naming

[vagrant pagoda]

arrow and lunar at xe2? is there a xe2.5?

[fickle ore]

bro less than a year ago we were below 100$, give me a break

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah thats because of mi400

see that massive october jump, wonder what caused that XD

[fickle ore]

yea and dropped to 200

Point is, 10-20 % drops are quite normal and frequent

U think I dont own AMD or even lately, Meta?

[ashen spindle]

Yea I just said lmao I didn’t say intel is dead with it or anything xD

[vagrant pagoda]

13% onday is bad

[fickle ore]

lol no

normal

[ashen spindle]

It’s probably going up pre market anyway again or stabilizing

All the fluctuations don’t matter until we know if 14A has customers or is dead

[fickle ore]

prob drops to 40 or so and climbs during the spring, depending on good news and politiks

[ashen spindle]

No I think lnl might have some newer encoders or something but mostly the same

[ashen spindle]

Yeah I’m just saying neither the 100 nor the 200 valuation care about laptop sales on amds side xD

Because they got like nothing there in comparison

Can’t drop from bad news if you don’t have a good option there in the first place

I also expect AMD stock to tank after their earnings because they don’t got anything yet till summer when they can book mi400 sales

[fickle ore]

I really really doubt the intel valuation is based on LNL/PTL either, It's mostly long term fab play + short term politiks, fomo, rediscovery and ppl starting to believe the fab story

[ashen spindle]

Laptops is their main client compute group driver

Client group is still double the revenue of data center+AI

[fickle ore]

Yeah but the reason to invest, all this time has been the fabs. Look at TSM mc and give it yankee premium. Even at half of that it's juicy gains from the $18 considering their P/S compared to other tech plays

[ashen spindle]

Yeah it’s a big reason but it still means the laptop products are currently their main near future revenue

[fickle ore]

consumer side is just nice extra revenue st ream

[ashen spindle]

It’s not extra it’s the thing that kept foundry alive lol

[fickle ore]

lol true

[ashen spindle]

And stocks will go down on the best future promise if you say next quarter we are down in sales

[fickle ore]

Oh really? Wht aabout tesla? 😛

markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay sane

[ashen spindle]

I mean Tesla also does both

Goes insanely high and dips when sales are not met and the just spikes again

[fickle ore]

Anyway that LBT comment about yields, cool, didnt see that before

When is the call?

[ashen spindle]

I’m betting Intel next earnings call is either at 70 or 30 lol

Call is over

[fickle ore]

oh well will listen tmr

[ashen spindle]

Enjoy one guy being very spicy and one guy being absolutely dumb and doesn’t even know the product names

Absolutely insane how some of these people earn more than minimum wage

[iron wave]

So L3 charging connects your cars battery to the external charger yeah? Why can't I just lie to my car and get 350V DC for an inverter?

[vagrant pagoda]

its not always bi-directional

your car sense current flow and voltages

[magic minnow]

https://youtu.be/uR4W3e-_3zs?si=8OKe2wFzTqJN-DQ7

@unkempt lake wow

[tribal dirge]

14A is interesting since its going to be the first HVM node made on High NA-EUV (more specifically ASML Twinscan EXE:5200B) using single-patterning.

I am curious to see how it will compare to TSMC since they insist on continuing to use multipatterning with Low NA EUV lithography

[ashen spindle]

if it works

14a is made so regular euv is a fallback option

so it wont be a nother 10nm

[unkempt lake]

is this like the alarm clock thing

[tribal dirge]

iirc parts of 14A are made on the 0.33 NA machines, its really only the super duper small features that intel uses the more expensive 0.55 NA EUV lithography machines.

[ashen spindle]

yeah small features like transistors

[tribal dirge]

yeah, it will be interesting as to how it will play out though, Intel has already gotten a head start on HVM possibilities with high NA EUV, while TSMC hasn't even bothered yet.

[ashen spindle]

yeah but performance needs to be there

so far 18A is like N3SomeLetter

which isnt great given its online same quarter as N2

[tribal dirge]

yeah, not many people will probably manufacture their chips on 18A

[ashen spindle]

yeah so they need to catch up first before using high NA gives them any advantage

[tribal dirge]

eh, when it gets to scales like 14A or A14 its kind of a crossroads between weather or not multipatterning is still actually viable.

for HVM

[ashen spindle]

I mean first they need to get 14A to compete and ideally beat N2 then we can see if high NA is worth it there already

[tribal dirge]

I would have imagined Intel tried to see how 14A would fair in a HVM environment with multipatterning and maybe they determined that it was not worth multipatterning compared to single patterning with high NA

cauz developing for high NA is not cheap

but multipatterning with low NA is already something they have done.

[tribal dirge]

lots of bambu sales innit

[empty wren]

They ran out of filament too in some instances

[tribal dirge]

LMAO

[iron wave]

Yeah it has current sensing, but that sounds like software.

[little token]

Hi guys, can someone recommend me a high end mouse? Something simiral to a wooting quality. I'm currently using a razer viper v3 pro, and I wanted to switch to a more high quality mouse. I just want something that can perform as well as razer viper v3 and look cool. thank you.

[red hedge]

Get a razor balisiks v3 hiperspeed in whie

I got it today and it's great

[indigo sonnet]

what do you mean wooting quality? like nice software and good tech or the physical quality of the mouse?

[little token]

I would say both if possible

@indigo sonnet Like i looked at angry miao and it looks great

but im not sure about the quality

[indigo sonnet]

the one with hotswap batteries?

[little token]

yaa

[indigo sonnet]

cool pick. ngl i havent seen much of it

[little token]

yeah i never got it, but it looks sick

[indigo sonnet]

my best recommendation for high end would be zaunkoenig. purely for the carbon fiber.

[little token]

400$ damn

@indigo sonnet it's also wired 🙁

[pale sigil]

Ew wired

[indigo sonnet]

No batteries to explode or die on you.

[rough osprey]

not too reliable either

[indigo sonnet]

cables?

[rough osprey]

zaunkoenig mice

[indigo sonnet]

i havent seen much when it comes to issues with them, what have you seen?

[rough osprey]

mostly when m3k released there were some issues with cables, firmware and stuff

also easier to break then like a normal plastic mouse

[indigo sonnet]

makes sense. i havent seen a single person break the shell though

[rough osprey]

oh i have

lol

[indigo sonnet]

like the buttons or cracking the whole shell?

[rough osprey]

i think it was some part of the shell

is Zaunkoenig really active anymore

[indigo sonnet]

they still sell mice. and the owners still talk

[rough osprey]

probably not selling that much anymore after the hype

and with wireless options that are even lighter

[umbral heron]

A goldmine, truly
Especially with how shit is Bambu filament

[rough osprey]

huh

[mild patrol]

i'm planning to buy a new dac any ideas if the Aiyima A7 good for iems?

https://www.aiyima.com/products/aiyima-dac-a7?srsltid=AfmBOorFp2nVxZgDhUVk25WfqyGw3CN-oJUJWURtBVPPkEtkJkXjzVvh

[umbral heron]

For IEMs? Apple dongle or FiiO KA11 is enough
But yeah, I think A7 will be good too, but you can get a nice DAC for $100 already

[mild patrol]

the a7 is cheap for me in the phillippines and they recommended me that dac so im just asking for validations if its good

i don't wanna overspend on dacs that much

[umbral heron]

KA11 costs about half that
But yeah, A7 is okay, basically most of the DACs are the same in this price point

[mild patrol]

poggers thank you

[vapid ruin]

Looks good to me

[tired chasm]

is the super strike worth upgrading to if u own a logitech pro x superlight 2 atm that currently has no issues

[sullen bear]

If you want to be early adopter without benefits then yea

But personally I’ll wait until it drops in price by like 50%

[tired chasm]

yea im probably just going to wait until my superlight has issues because its fine

[umbral heron]

https://videocardz.com/newz/der8auer-msrp-basically-no-longer-exists-after-nvidia-reportedly-pull-the-plug-on-open-price-program-support

[crimson wigeon]

Good

[nimble arch]

Time to check used 4090 prices

Still about £1900-2000

[bold coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR4W3e-_3zs

nintendo's kids alexa (but not really)

[tribal dirge]

hmm I wonder how I got my FE 5090 at MSRP

[frozen ingot]

took almost a year for the 50-series cards to get anywhere close to nvidias msrp

where I live

[unkempt lake]

I watched the video and i was like thanks fo telling us what we knew for years

Amd and nvidia both have a fake msrp

Xd

[unkempt lake]

i'm not a fucking talking flower 😡

[bold coyote]

HUH

[unkempt lake]

im being funny

cuz that's my name

but you didnt know that

So you didnt understand the joke

WHATEVER

MOUMOU MACHINE

back to tech

[bold coyote]

MOUMOU

[unkempt lake]

Im starting to think it's just bad cpus

At his point

[unkempt lake]

yes we love mou

[umbral heron]

Assus and Assrock is basically the same company

[unkempt lake]

They havent been for ages

They separated activities in 2010

That's 16 years ago cals

[ashen spindle]

same parent company but separate entities

both part of pegatron

or I think pegatron is part of asus? idk they are still like half linked

[vagrant pagoda]

and asmedia

[umbral heron]

Same parent company, same manufacturing facilities, potato potato

[vagrant pagoda]

and you have ti backwards

ASUS owns pegatron, which owns asrock

[rough patrol]

I got new glasses and now i can see text fringing on my phone screen 😭

[vapid ruin]

maybe it needs some burn in

[unkempt lake]

@umbral heron @ashen spindle i'm pretty sure yall are wrong

Asus dropped its part of ownership in 2012

[ashen spindle]

yes now read what pegatron is

[unkempt lake]

They own 16% of shares

[unkempt lake]

Pegatron was originally started by asus yes

But then became its own independent entity

[ashen spindle]

yes but they still have shares in it and do things like share fabrication space

either way I said idk how exacly just that they are linked and thats what they are

[unkempt lake]

They dumped most of their shares tho

Reduced to 16% in 2012

I'm trying to find out of they actually share manufacturing space

Also... what about the gigabyte failures on 9800x3d

[ashen spindle]

nothing of note so far

cpus die thats normal, asrock/asus are atm just outliers with how often it happens

[ashen spindle]

see I just think this is funny as hell because who needs gambling and bitcoin if a stock does that @fickle ore , still betting next earnings day they are either at 30 or 70

honestly, @marsh glade are you just shorting intel before every earnings report?

[marsh glade]

I don't trade shitcoins

[ashen spindle]

hahaha

[sullen bear]

damn I just sold intel at +12%

[analog sinew]

did you buy honey stocks with that?

[vagrant pagoda]

pegatron dose the post foundry packaging and such for asmedia

also pegatron, asus and asrock all do thier laptop/pc assembly in the same factory.

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-claims-ddr5-4800-is-within-1-fps-difference-of-ddr5-6000-on-ryzen-7-9850x3d

[frozen ingot]

grok is this true

or are the corpos trying to gaslight us into settling for slower ram

[ashen spindle]

It’s true because it’s already the case for regular x3d

Just never was advertised as a benefit

[vagrant pagoda]

memory only mattered on ddr4 x3d, it was never that important on ddr5 x3d

[thick elk]

Thing was on the flipside before the price of memory was such that there was not much reason to cheap out on it. But with the current prices that changes.

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean fast ddr4 was still $$ durning am4

[thick elk]

I am sure some workloads benefit from faster ddr5 on x3d

[vagrant pagoda]

it wasnt really wroth the extra money then. it was only during that narrow window of cheap ddr4 and x3d am4 being eol

[thick elk]

I meant mostly on the ddr5 x3d before, price gap between ddr5 6000 and 4800 was not really there, especially if you wanted some heatsink on top for looks.

[vagrant pagoda]

the only good thing is fast ddr4 and x3d lets you beat non-x3d am5 most of the time

[ashen spindle]

the main reason is also that xmp sticks are just using absolute shit timings so they are stable

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

you need actual good memory, not just fast

[ashen spindle]

so you dont get that much of a real benefit if you look at latency vs just the speed

for some things thats enough but with larger cache that means you get no more benefits for gaming really

[vagrant pagoda]

first word is king

[ember comet]

hi guys

[pale sigil]

I need that 1%

[tribal dirge]

short intel short intel!!!!!! >:3

[tribal dirge]

now, 9950X3D2 when?

cauz I could really use more cache

[silent grove]

do you guys have any recommendations on what GPU I can pair up with a 5700x
was looking at a 9060xt or 5060ti to pair it up with but I figured it would bottleneck

[reef patrol]

You buy the one you can afford.

[ashen spindle]

everything bottleneck you pay what you want to afford and then just set the settings higher if you are cpu limited to see more

[wheat plume]

OK NGL, I do hate AI but this is pretty sick actually, you can just call your server and ask questions and get shit sent back to you moments later
https://youtu.be/cT22fTzotYc

[silent grove]

mmm i see gotcha
preciate the advice

[serene ruin]

Anyone can recommend a good laptop for mechanical engineering purposes. So meaning it needs to run Matlab and Solidworks very well

[tribal dirge]

Thinkpad P series is probably what you want to look at

[serene ruin]

Oh yeah?

[tribal dirge]

Specifically the panther lake laptops with a dGPU of some sorts

[ashen spindle]

cant recommend something without a budget

[serene ruin]

How well can it

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

[serene ruin]

Up to about 1500 maybe

[ashen spindle]

yeah so any ptl laptop falls aways

[serene ruin]

How much would i need

Good Investments arent cheap anyways lol

I want this baby to last me till graduation

[tribal dirge]

I have some experience with SW, for most class assignments you can get away with a weak dGPU and a half decent cpu

[serene ruin]

And more

[tribal dirge]

And for MATLAB you won't be doing anything crazy first year

[serene ruin]

Im a junior

[tribal dirge]

Oh

[serene ruin]

Lol yeah

[tribal dirge]

How complex are your SW projects?

Like how many parts in an assembly you'd estimate?

[serene ruin]

Atm nothing crazy because i just transferred in so i need to retake FED

[tribal dirge]

Ahh FED is pretty basic stuff usually

[serene ruin]

Yeah

Already took the course but with autoCAD

SolidWorks is 10x better lol

Loving it

But my final project going to be a full RC Car

So me and my boy will be designing everything except for parks like motor, shock absorbers, and wheels

[tribal dirge]

OMG YASSS

[serene ruin]

Looking to also learn how to create my own circuit boards

[tribal dirge]

anyways, an Asus TUF A16 or A14 with like a 4060 or 5060 will probably be just fine

[serene ruin]

Going into the Humanoid department in the future

[tribal dirge]

Nice nice

[serene ruin]

Bett ty ty ill look into that

[serene ruin]

Wbu what do you do?

[tribal dirge]

I also do MechE!

[serene ruin]

Amazing

Gotta love the struggle lol

Rather lose my sanity to ME than anything else lol

[tribal dirge]

Realllll

[serene ruin]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p1-gen-7-16-inch-intel/21kv0014us

So this would be good too?

[reef patrol]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p1-gen-7-16-inch-intel/21kv0014us
Y'all need to stop letting companies get away with tracking links.

[serene ruin]

Rip

[ashen spindle]

no core ultra 1xx series is kinda shit you'd want to avoid that

[serene ruin]

Any powerhouse of a laptop you can recommend for around that price then

[ashen spindle]

idk pricing in the us at all with the ram changes

assumed ducky would know since it seems he uses the same tools

[serene ruin]

https://shop.asus.com/us/90nr0kg1-m000a0-asus-tuf-gaming-a14-2025.html

This one that Ducky said

Just trying to make sure to get the most out of my money

[tribal dirge]

Yeah this one will be just fine running SW assemblies with like 80-150 parts

[ashen spindle]

yeah this one has les ram but I assume that would be fine with 16gb still, otherwise the hardware there is much better than the lenovo one

same price for that older spec lmfao rare cases of asus not being premium price

[serene ruin]

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-16-fhd-165hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-32gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-1tb-ssd-jaegar-gray/JJGGLH8Y2Z/sku/6617666

[serene ruin]

Theres this one with a 5070

[ashen spindle]

that one also uses an older cpu

[tribal dirge]

I mean as long as you aren't using SW Visualize you don't need a super crazy GPU

Much rather extra money be spent on more memory and/or a better cpu

[tribal dirge]

The 32gb of ram is a big help though

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah idk how much the tools use

[tribal dirge]

SW can get away with 16 but it might start to swap memory when you start opening assemblies with like 100+ parts in it

[tribal dirge]

Oh this one is also nice because it has a numpad

If you like to use a numpad that is

And a larger screen is always nice

[serene ruin]

Bet

[serene ruin]

I do plan to do so in with future projects and for maybe potentially advertising

To test things out such as a suspension on certain terrain

[tribal dirge]

Ah, yeah then the 5070 will be nice to render in SW Visualize or whatnot for presentations and stuff

[serene ruin]

Perfect ok cool appreciate it

[tribal dirge]

Aye!

[pale sigil]

Since it has a dgpu definitely

[ashen spindle]

what

all of them have a dgpu that doesnt change anything here

it was about I dont know how much tools used in mechanical engineering eat up ram

[pale sigil]

As in he doesn't have to worry about sharing ram

Sorry I didn't mean dgpu haha

I meant 16gb will be fine since he doesn't mean to share ram with vram.

[tribal dirge]

I mean, unless you disable the dGPU that is

To save battery

Even then, 16gb in Solidworks with a dGPU is really only enough for a <80-90 part assembly

[ashen spindle]

Yeah that’s my point, this isn’t about using it for just gaming or taking notes

[compact birch]

Is the usb c port an issue? my brand new 60he v2 just shit the bed on me.

Anyways, im submitting a ticket.

[sudden imp]

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/microsoft-bitlocker-encryption-keys-give-fbi-legal-order-privacy-nightmare

[grizzled prism]

sky is blue ahh

if you care about privacy just use linux 😅

[thick elk]

Just following the law, if they have the key and a judge orders it, not much you can do. They kind of need the key if they want password recovery in the first place. You don't have to do that.

[neon pagoda]

apple would never 🗣️

[neon pagoda]

i mean if the feds get hands on ur actual device ur kinda fried no matter what

larping "privacy" on linux extends 2 not havin ur data sold off

[thick elk]

I am reasonably confident that if the police were to get my pc when turned off, it would have a hard time extracting data.

[neon pagoda]

there are entire departments dedicated to this man idk

[thick elk]

That said the alternative for microsoft here to nof provide password recovery with bitlocker is worse for most users.

[neon pagoda]

the local police would probs struggle but as the article said fbi they're just gonna read yo shit man

the only real company that rlly sticks it to the feds is apple the others just roll over 😭

[thick elk]

dmcrypt and a decent key only used for disk encryption, there may be ways but aint easy. This is assuming they seize the pc turned off and have no prior logging / snooping jf the data, big if, if they really would want my data for some reason.

[neon pagoda]

i mean like if the feds REALLY want whats on ur pc then they r just gonna get it

and theres nothin u can rlly do since ur basically powerless to the feds/police in 2026

[thick elk]

Not in the US helps for starters

[neon pagoda]

oh yeah absolutely

but still like they can just take your laptop away and ur not gonna see it for years

[thick elk]

True in most places, if they take it, expect to buy a new one.

[neon pagoda]

even then like if they give you back your shit

are you REALLY going to use a device thats been in police custody?

[reef patrol]

The feds can't beat math. If they have no bsckdoors into encrypted data, it would have to be state secret levels of important for any agency to throw a supercomputer at.

[grizzled prism]

only thing i can think of is if your hardware itself is backdoored to the point where the decryption key gets intercepted at some point

if they have that level of access i doubt they would risk exposing it unless yeah it's state secret levels

i was moreso just commenting at the link saying it's a privacy nightmare (which it's not really since you need physical access) when windows 11 itself is a privacy nightmare lmao

[reef patrol]

Classic "we bought backdoors from the Israelis" tactics

[lunar elm]

takes ram out

whatcha polis gonna do now

[pale sigil]

Powa

5 Plex streams going on at once and my CPU ain't being tickled

[halcyon moss]

No transcoding?

[pale sigil]

3/5 transcoding rn

[halcyon moss]

So it's being tickled but in the media engine?

[pale sigil]

My CPU usage is very low

37% overall which includes 23 docker containers and 4 VMs

Lol my bandwidth out right now is 39mb/s.... Genuinely didn't think I would ever get that sort of speed going out haha

[halcyon moss]

Are they helping out in paying already?

[frozen ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ-HbQseM_c

angry dutch man ranting

[pale sigil]

My cousin helps me out and has said he'll come over when I'm ready to do a bunch of building work for me etc so I'm cool with him. The other ye I need to.

I don't wanna charge, just a donation would be nice or something of his old drives he doesn't use.

My cousin is a builder/carpenter so he's probably going to help me with wiring in the loft for my networking etc for example

[tribal dirge]

The NSA will more likely than not find a way.

They have a whole secret database of zero day vulnerabilities that they have found that they can use to exfiltrate data from people of interest.

[plush stirrup]

Where I live they don't need tools they can just force me to say my password

[analog sinew]

oh dw the US is well on that way too

[plush stirrup]

At least in theory there are some rights left

"People who are presumed to have special knowledge of an IT system or of the services that are used to secure the data that are saved, processed or transferred by the IT system, can be ordered to provide information on the manner to access it or the data in an intelligible form. For this, an order from the investigating judge is required. Failure to comply with this order is an offense punishable with up to three years imprisonment and/or a criminal fine."

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9yGo1Hzu7c

feel like the $100 jump to the odin 3 is worth it over the rp6

8 eilte is like 50-100% faster than gen 2

[north quarry]

Hi, what is this grounding thing with the module, I have a 60he+ module with optimum case and friction fit pad. Are there no screws needed?

[fair gull]

dont crosspost

[north quarry]

Sorry

[marsh pewter]

drivers are still iffy tho

it will definitely be worth it once it’s stable fs

[vagrant pagoda]

i havent had any issues

what driver issue are you talking about?

[marsh pewter]

afaik the current drivers for the gpu are still wip, so it can be kinda buggy with emulation, especially windows emulation

[vagrant pagoda]

you havent been paying attention lately XD

[tribal dirge]

12 gig models have a slightly larger price gap but I think its still worth it, Qcom SD 8 Elite is still way better than SD 8 G2

[vagrant pagoda]

turnip out this week gives you 60fps smooth switch gaming on 8 elite

[tribal dirge]

not to mention the 8 elite can go up to 24gb of RAM but the 8 G2 can only go up to 12

wait no, both can go up to 24

im a little stupid

[marsh pewter]

oh that’s nice

yeah the main downside I’ve been hearing is a lack of good drivers but if that’s being fixed then the 8E is a complete beast

[vagrant pagoda]

ac3 remaster

also ff xiv pc version

the only game i had issues with is z-a

[tribal dirge]

95C on the SoC holyyyyy

[vagrant pagoda]

thats on a phone is why

[tribal dirge]

oh, makes sense

[vagrant pagoda]

also all modern chips boost to 90-95c

[vapid ruin]

Nice nice. Looks quite playable from this vid

[tribal dirge]

yeah, although I would like to imagine the clock speeds on phones drop down pretty quick since they have very little thermal mass to dissipate heat into

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah za is like 30 fps with studders but its playable

[vagrant pagoda]

nah they boost to 95

[vapid ruin]

Naow (at least for mid to high end), peeps that's phone only can enjoy what they miss out.

[vagrant pagoda]

also tablet not phone, but still no fan

ive seen 80-85 on my odin with games that actually push cpu and gpu

[tribal dirge]

well its not that, obv its throttling itself at 95C, so if 95C is held constant but the phone sees itself heating up more it will continue to drop clock speeds more and more to keep 95C constant until it reaches equilibrium with the heat dissipation rate of the phone chassis.

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah but its still boosting clocks

[tribal dirge]

yeah, but it will never be as good as an actively cooled solution like on a handheld

[vagrant pagoda]

all modern silcon dose it

its pretty close

[tribal dirge]

or that one actively cooled phone I saw

sure it may still run hot, but they can boost higher because they have a better heat dissipation rate

[vagrant pagoda]

the gpu isnt really thermal limited so its boosting to amx

you cant really overclock them at all

[tribal dirge]

yeah, not sure if that is due to how Qcomm designed Adreno or if its just a safety thing

they used to use Mali prior to making their own adreno gpu architecture.

[vagrant pagoda]

like even 8e4 vs 8e5 is only 1100 to 1200mhz

[tribal dirge]

yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

you can see the cpu isnt full throttle as its doing 2ghz

so its just throttling the cpu to keep the gpu going

i wish qc would go big gpu not cpu

no andoird game or emu even hits 75% useage on 8e4

[tribal dirge]

I could see Qcomm making a gaming handheld specific SoC

[ashen spindle]

absolutely not

[tribal dirge]

more P cores on the CPU and beefier GPU

[ashen spindle]

the market isnt large enough for that

[pale sigil]

How

[tribal dirge]

fair

[pale sigil]

Oh wait it's a Snapdragon handheld?

[ashen spindle]

at best its something like intel/amd do with specific cut down ones

[vagrant pagoda]

tablet

[tribal dirge]

yeah true

they have to compete with them

[pale sigil]

How much

Oh

I thought it was the same device

I wanna replace my steam deck with a nice streaming only device

[vagrant pagoda]

get a odin

[pale sigil]

Since 90% of my deck usage is streaming

[vagrant pagoda]

poretal for streaming or 3 for gaming and streaming

3 can do swtich gaming now

[tribal dirge]

like a gaming handheld for stuff like GFN or remoting into your pc?

[vagrant pagoda]

but portal is killer for fitting in pockets

[pale sigil]

Ye

But not small and decent screen

And not cost way to much

Ohhh

https://www.ayntec.com/products/odin2-portal

[vagrant pagoda]

portal is 7 inch oled

[pale sigil]

Is this the one you suggests

[tribal dirge]

iirc there is the odin 2 portal

[pale sigil]

Suggested

[tribal dirge]

the base model

[vagrant pagoda]

but its 8g2 so you arent going to get swtich emu on anything that dose a lot of 3d

[pale sigil]

Hmm it's smaller than the deck?

[vagrant pagoda]

but oled+8g2+8000mha = long playtime

[tribal dirge]

there is also AYN Thor Lite which is more of a 3DS style handheld

if you are into that

[pale sigil]

So ye

[vagrant pagoda]

its also way way thinner and lighter

[pale sigil]

I kinda wanted something bigger

[vagrant pagoda]

bigger than deck?

[pale sigil]

Ye but not full of hardware

[vagrant pagoda]

tablet with a controller grip then

[pale sigil]

Psp portal for example

[pale sigil]

I have that already

Although 11" is amusing to use it on

[vagrant pagoda]

the portal is 8 inch

idk if anyone makes a 8 inch android handheld

[pale sigil]

It says 7"

Unless you meant psp portal

[vagrant pagoda]

yes the ps portal

[pale sigil]

Sadly

Although the portal2 is nice

Regardless

[vagrant pagoda]

i will 100% buy a 3 portal

the 7 inch is much better than 6

but the 8e is much faster for pc than g2 or g3

[pale sigil]

I barely even use my deck anymore tbh

Kinda sick of 720p screen and how heavy it is.

I don't mind either of them when it comes to playing on the deck itself

[vagrant pagoda]

thing with the deck is its only really good at gaming

[pale sigil]

It's amazing at streaming

[vagrant pagoda]

having android makes it much better for media/web/sm

[pale sigil]

I only care for streaming

Idc for media etc

[tribal dirge]

unless you get like a galaxy tab A9+ with like tablet controllers

[pale sigil]

I did also consider buying an 8" tablet

I have a um modified gamesir

With 3d printed grips

[pale sigil]

Poop screen

[tribal dirge]

iirc there is a gaming focused tablet that is like 9 inches

RedMagic Astra

[pale sigil]

I don't need a gaming tablet

Can't stress this enough

All I do is stream

[tribal dirge]

but it does have a 165Hz amoled

generally you need to pay more for a nice screen

[pale sigil]

I would rather not waste that amount of money

[vagrant pagoda]

thats what the ac gameplay was on

[pale sigil]

I can get any Samsung instead

[pale sigil]

I don't need 165hz

[vagrant pagoda]

it would be a waste to get a 8e for streaming

[tribal dirge]

galaxy tab S10 lite?

unfortunately they are all 90Hz LCDs

[pale sigil]

My tablet is smashed now tho XD

[tribal dirge]

damn, that really sucks

[pale sigil]

Tbh it still ain't as cozy

As using my steam deck

[tribal dirge]

and if you want high refresh AMOLED from samsung you need to pau a pretty penny

[pale sigil]

The steam deck feels just right honestly

[pale sigil]

90hz is more than enough for me

I don't need a high refresh rate on a smaller form factor

[tribal dirge]

fair

[vagrant pagoda]

F

[pale sigil]

All the other controllers that clip onto tablets have their pros and cons

I do not like Bluetooth for example

[tribal dirge]

thing is with Galaxy tab S10 lite is that it is an LCD and not an AMOLED display

[pale sigil]

Well tbf

I haven't found anything worth bothering

My tablet is not oled but is a fantastic screen

[tribal dirge]

tbh once I got an OLED tablet I cannot go back

my iPad Pro is killer for content

[pale sigil]

Bro

[tribal dirge]

Tandem OLED too!

[pale sigil]

I miss my iPad first gen

And I miss my M2 iPad Pro I had for less than 24 hours.

[tribal dirge]

ohno what happened to it?

[pale sigil]

I just couldn't justify it haha

[tribal dirge]

fair

I got my iPad pro to just take notes mainly LMAO

[pale sigil]

I had to retire my 2015 iPad pro due to battery and a good on my pad 6 pro on AliExpress

[vagrant pagoda]

i have ipad mini for just drone

[pale sigil]

My mum still uses my old pro tho

[tribal dirge]

13 inch iPad Pro only to be a glorified digital notebook

[steady sail]

i would love to get a ipad mini or an ipad air LOL

[vagrant pagoda]

the wifi is the best

[pale sigil]

I honestly hate apple

And iOS

[tribal dirge]

true, iPads have very good wifi and cellular

[pale sigil]

But I love my iPads

So freaking much

Android is ass on tablets and I'll stand by that statement till I'm dead

[tribal dirge]

iPadOS 26 also expanded the functionality of iPads even more as well

not quite like MacOS but its way closer now

[pale sigil]

Since all I do is watch content on my pad 6 pro it's fine

And it's basically a clone of iPad os

[vagrant pagoda]

google dosent like tablets for some reason XD

[tribal dirge]

ooo wait that is so clean

[pale sigil]

Tbh

[tribal dirge]

iirc they only make like one tablet LMAO

[pale sigil]

Pixel tablet is getting better I'll admit

And hyper os is decent on tablets NGL

[vagrant pagoda]

they made the best tablet of all time take you very much

[pale sigil]

Samsung I cannot stand

[vagrant pagoda]

nexus 7

[pale sigil]

I had the OG one

Even though it was horrendous

I loved it

The V1

[tribal dirge]

I still dont like the pixel tablet OS, it tries too hard to be like mobile android.

[vagrant pagoda]

i have all 3

[pale sigil]

There we no such thing then

[tribal dirge]

its like the tablet variation of android

[pale sigil]

Absolutely ass after like 6 months but I loved it so much

The 2013 version was vastly superior

[tribal dirge]

I still prefer samsung's tablet implementation of android because it at least has DEX mode

[pale sigil]

I'm on about the nexus 7

[tribal dirge]

ah

[pale sigil]

Ion was on about the nexus 7

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

[tribal dirge]

I lowkey forgot that the nexus existed LMAO

[vagrant pagoda]

7/8 is best portable tablet size

and only apple makes a good one

[pale sigil]

There was a nexus 10 right?

[vagrant pagoda]

9 10 and i think 11

[tribal dirge]

iPad mini is so good!!!

I still have mine from like 9 years ago

[pale sigil]

Beautiful bezels

I don't like small tablets

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a 5th gen for my drone

[tribal dirge]

iPad Mini 4th gen I think it was

[pale sigil]

The only time I don't use my tablet is when I'm asleep or on my desktop, it lives with me.

[tribal dirge]

unfortunately I stopped paying for the cellular plan for it but it still works great

[pale sigil]

Like I'm using it rn

Everything is done on it

[vagrant pagoda]

5th was the last of the og formfactor

[pale sigil]

I even did wooting supper tickets on it a few times

[vagrant pagoda]

the 6/7 are bigger

[pale sigil]

I will say tho, after getting used to an 11" tablet I don't think I can go back to 13"

[tribal dirge]

I honestly cant effectively take notes on an 11 inch tablet, idk why

[pale sigil]

You like it big

Probably

[tribal dirge]

yeah

13 inch ipad is basically the same size as a regular piece of notebook paper

[pale sigil]

I do love the 13" version, it's so nice to use.

[tribal dirge]

maybe thats why

[pale sigil]

If I had the money to waste I'd get both normal pro and 13" one

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah i have a boox 13.3 and its like a1 perfectly

ive even traced things onto the screen

[tribal dirge]

LMAO REALLL

[nimble arch]

I do fancy getting the 13” Pro

Get that M5 power

[tribal dirge]

and the tandem OLED display

and the light weight

[nimble arch]

Dolby Vision support

I’m a huge sucker for the Atmos + Vision combo.