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unkempt lake
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Lol

nimble arch
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ASSRock

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on the bright side, we getting a GN video soon

reef patrol
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ASRock just can't catch a break these days.

frozen drift
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isn't asrock like a really good brand, why I recently keep seeing their mobo frying CPUs left and right.

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Like damn son, this is not good man.

unkempt lake
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Last video was literally

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we dont know here's 45 mins of info

frozen drift
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Also, how does 9700X compare to 265k from intel? Are AMD non-X3D chips better than intel in terms of productivity?

unkempt lake
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At that tier

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  • you can get intel ultra chips for dirt cheap as of late
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For gaming tho it's amd all the way

frozen drift
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9700X destroys intel's 265k or even 285k in terms of gaming as well?

ashen spindle
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if you want the top gaming you get amd with the 9800x3d, otherwise intel in 90% of cases

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well also depends on how fast you go with your memory, if you take time for OC etc.

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if you want something mid range, and be able to upgrade for cheaper 4 years later
go amd

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i'd argue amd is the better option in 99% of cases

frozen drift
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In a standard condition, meaning normal, no intensive bios settings/OCing, does the 9700X beat 265k in terms of gaming? Or 285k. I know future proofing is important but let's not factor that in.

ashen spindle
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depending on where you are thats just a lot more expensive so even if you have to get a new platform intel is the better deal with how cheap arl is in some deals

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285k is often faster, it depends

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intel 15th gen is a shitpost sometimes beaten by its older 14th gen chips

ashen spindle
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its gotten a lot better since release

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proof?

ashen spindle
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the 200s boost is quite a nice upgrade

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frozen drift
# whole bramble proof?

the ram overclock/memory boost for the core 200 series has improved the gaming performance a lot IIRC.

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msrp wise amd was always cheaper

ashen spindle
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arl has dropped in sale price a ton

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and you can keep your mobo for 6 years or smth

frozen drift
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Anyway, I really hope intel can turn things around in the nova lake series lol.

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ashen spindle
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arrow lake

frozen drift
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Like I don't understand wtf is intel doing with their fking socket longevity.

distant tapir
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Asrock never again

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okay for me theres a 20 euro diff between 285 and r 7 9800x3d in favor of intel

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but imo it has to be like 100-200 dollars cheaper in order to make up for intel forcing you to buy a new mobo every year

unkempt lake
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Its like saying everyone should turn on pbo

ashen spindle
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no

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quin i don't know why you simp so much for intel

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when they released the same products 3 times in a row

lyric hatch
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same fucking performance

ashen spindle
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intel is in a bad spot that doesnt make it bad when they are having good things?

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can you show me the numbers

ashen spindle
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boards are starting at like 100$ same range as am5

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We live in different continents

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lowest i get is 160 euros from am5
intel? 220

ashen spindle
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sorry, intel boards start at 82€

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also am5 is cheaper than 160 as well lol

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again, different continents

ashen spindle
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what other continent uses euros?

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ashen spindle
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i looked at both us and eu prices

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where in europe

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because germany is not the same as sweden

ashen spindle
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oh so from different contients we now go to different countires when I started by saying

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regadless am5 is going to give you a cpu upgrade 5 years down the line

intel will tell you to buy another mobo

ashen spindle
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no its not, its going to give you 1 more generation thats it

frozen drift
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frozen drift
ashen spindle
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yes

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am6 hasn't been officially announced

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you're running on rumors at this point

ashen spindle
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no im running on dram production timelines

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you cant make am5 use non ddr5 memory so that require a socket change

frozen drift
# frozen drift no but, look at AM4 and AM5 socket bruh. Intel is already losing the CPU war SO ...

Like I'm not tripping right? They are ending the socket support after 1 generation(arrow lake) and nova lake will be utilising a new socket. Now, admittedly, I know intel understands that they fucked up so badly that they are going SUPER BIG next gen(assuming the leaks are accurate), like introducing more cache and having a buttload more cores, which requires massive redesign for the socket, so it make sense that they need new socket. But oh boy if the next gen CPUs from intel still sucks, then it will literally be AMD being the CPU version of nvidia and they run the show for at least another 10 years.

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frozen drift
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still years in the future and Amd are probably going to keep releasing am5 chips after that

ashen spindle
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sure but nothing you could consider an upgrade, the usual apu on desktop maybe and such

ashen spindle
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whatis soon

ashen spindle
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relative to when server gets it

frozen drift
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I just wanted to see if quin had a different number

ashen spindle
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not on top of my head

lyric hatch
frozen drift
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Otherwise I don't understand why AMD is releasing new budget AM4 options, like for who are they catering towards?

ashen spindle
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its for certain regions, oem contracts etc.

lyric hatch
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And what you're describing of AMD is where Intel was for a long time before very recently

frozen drift
# lyric hatch The reason Intel is losing is not because of their socket longevity

I know, it's mainly because the X3D chips are destroying intel in terms of gaming competitions and also intel not having significant gains on their chips in recent years. But it doesn't help that the socket longevity is ass. Like for example, even if the core ultra 285k or 265k is cheap and provides good all-around value for people who wants BOTH productivity and decent gaming performance, people don't feel like buying it when AM5 have better longevity and the core ultra 200 series is a dead-end after one generation on this socket.

lyric hatch
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Honestly gaming chips at all mean very little as to why either of these companies are doing well/badly at the moment

frozen drift
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At least that's my opinion, but of course I don't know too much about market share and business side of stuff, and I am not even a desktop user, so I may not think too deep in terms of things like that

frozen drift
frozen drift
lyric hatch
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Because their chip manufacturing fell very far behind

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And you can't have competitive products without also having the manufacturing process to make them

frozen drift
frozen drift
fickle ore
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It's actully not behind ANYMORE, just that it WAS for like 5 years

ashen spindle
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so the reason intel started to fall behind was their 10nm node

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ever since then they went from leading with the best node to lagging behind tsmc

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now they are like half a node behind roughly still

fickle ore
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^from speculation because we have no 18A numbers

frozen drift
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they are using TSMC's process node for arrow lake?

ashen spindle
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the otther issues are manifold, like LGA1851 which is the current cpu socket actually was planned for 4 generations

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we only have arrow lake on it, but it was supposed to have metero, arrow, panther and beast lake

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MTL was kinda bad so its laptops only

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PTL also was moved to laptop only

frozen drift
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oh, I didn't know intel was using their own process node up until the raptor lake

ashen spindle
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BST was cancelled

fickle ore
ashen spindle
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so the socket was made for 4 generations but only 1 of them ended up on desktop

frozen drift
ashen spindle
frozen drift
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Until they introduced the memory controller boost

ashen spindle
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the other big issue was intel started having massive issues with server chips, sapphire rapids was had to do like a dozen revisions

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also, the next intel platform is also planned to have 4 generations at this point

fickle ore
ashen spindle
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no its not solved yet, the hope is with nova lake it will be much better

frozen drift
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Yeah I think the ultra 300 series have to be good lol.

ashen spindle
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the d2d clocks even with 200s boost and what not have limits that just bottleneck the chips

fickle ore
ashen spindle
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well amd has been doing chiplets much longer and better

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but even if that is solved with nova lake that doesnt guarantee they can leapfrog all of a sudden

fickle ore
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Well theyre not bound by IF

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IF is slow iirc

ashen spindle
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neither is amd

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zen6 has the same interconnect as strix halo, new packaging without SERDRES between ccd and iod

fickle ore
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Ah mh

ashen spindle
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the other issue intel had with arrow lake is that it ended up on early N3 which wasnt a great node

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but they had already commited to it, amd pulled out and put zen5 on N4 instead

fickle ore
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is N3 still bad

ashen spindle
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not really just the early variant that arrow lake uses is meh

fickle ore
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lul talk about luck

ashen spindle
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they just over commited to it, amd moved out and only put Zen5c on it

lyric hatch
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Guess we'll see how it turns out hopefully good for us as consumers if we have two competitive companies pepe_business

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And hopefully Arc stays alive

ashen spindle
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yeah thats a bigger doubt

fickle ore
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2 competitive companies is great for customers

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This land has been dry for decades

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always one or the other sucks turd

ashen spindle
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with LBT wanting 50% margins on new greenlight products arc is looking mighty dire

fickle ore
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I dont really care about graphics myself that much. Always want the best cpu however

kindred birch
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does wootverlay record and display analog input from other he/tmr keyboards?

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im using monsgeek fun60 tmr and sayodevice to test it but it wont display analog inputs

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interested to know if it displays analog input fine for other keyboards

crimson wigeon
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Only if they support the SDK, which is highly highly unlikely

gusty kiln
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@ashen spindle lmao basically everything AH yesterday never happened

crimson wigeon
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There might be third party adaptions floating around

gusty kiln
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it's always those ER Timmies

fickle ore
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damn

fickle ore
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@gusty kiln What ETF to buy

chilly edge
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I was looking at other Hall effect switches such as the gateron jades and was wondering will I still be able to get the rapid trigger and all that if I don’t use wooting lekkar switches in the wooting pcb? If someone can give me more info on this topic. Thank you so much.

dull hollow
kindred birch
empty wren
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Depending on the switch you may lose travel distance.

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This all depends on the switch

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However, to better understand wooting has quite decent sensors and one certain magnetic orientation works.

Everything else, the analog the extra features are all purely software from the data the sensors can gather.

frozen drift
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https://youtu.be/I8HdlK3LIz4 damn holy sh*# that power draw

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lunar elm
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5090 eat like 550w during gaming

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Im not sure how intel CPUs fares in power draw but I think theres gonna be another 100w between XTX and 5090

frozen drift
lunar elm
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10nm eating away at it

frozen drift
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zydSB0LA5vg&t=633s

damn acer and MSI f**king sucks lol.

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The worst is definitely from MSI because how can they have such a poor cooling system when they claim they use the largest vapor chamber + the way they advertise their dedicated gen 5 SSD heatpipe and so on lol. RIP. Imagine using a "better" CPU than the competition and still having worse performance.

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and it's thicker than most of them(except for the alienware 18 area 51). Acer's predator helios 18AI is also not good but at least it's because they just decided to compromise on the cooling(no vapor chamber) + it's the cheapest. It's terrible from MSI lol. Not to mention no advanced optimus or g-sync from MSI, and it's the most expensive. Jeez MSI

umbral heron
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18" mukiSweating
I'd prefer whole PC at this point HanaCrying

lyric hatch
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gaming laptop, mistakes made

frozen drift
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I think certain gaming laptops are fine, the legion 9i is actually a really great product all things considered.

umbral heron
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Good gaming laptop is a laptop with nice screen and good networking card to stream from PC sitblush

vapid ruin
frozen drift
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umbral heron
frozen drift
vapid ruin
umbral heron
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I mean if you want to play in bed it's a better option than keeping hot laptop in the bed sheets

frozen drift
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Btw, would it be a viable option for wooting to build a TKL/Full-sized keyboard but mix in mechanical switches for the F keys and non-important keys and numpads(for full-sized), which would technically save SOME power consumption and allows them to add in a USB pass-through? Just a question

umbral heron
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It will save very little power though
LEDs are eating the most of the power

umbral heron
frozen drift
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But uhh, I remembered one wooting staff here mentioned how it's mainly because of tachyon mode + HE switches are generally more power hungry tho. So that's why I had this idea. I mean you can always tune down RGB brightness by a bit to save power xD

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  • in tachyon mode the RGB is also toned down no?
umbral heron
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Tachyon mode is not as much about power as much about signal integrity and processing power of MCU, that's why RGB effects are turned off in Tachyon mode

frozen drift
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Also, are wooting's keyboards compatible with other switches such as gateron? Will it still retain the analog input capability?

old marlin
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For passtgrough you want a dedicated usb header anyways

covert steppe
old marlin
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They have to be ks-20 compatibke though

frozen drift
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or does gateron manufacture lekker switches?

old marlin
frozen drift
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oh

frozen drift
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but on laptop they are pretty limited so it's nice to have 1/2 extra ones.

old marlin
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No you want a dedicated usb cable that goes to your pc is what i mean

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Orherwise you can't supply a fully specced port

umbral heron
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80HE here SilvervaleBoxs

frozen drift
frozen drift
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Also, thank you for the information.

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What is white RGB though?

umbral heron
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UwU hanaSpin

covert steppe
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Yippee!

hasty thunder
marsh glade
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Yes PepeBusiness

umbral heron
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Whoever is not using UTF-8 in big 25 in their programs may forever have wet socks and warm pillow hanaPout

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Program was crashing because one of files in my home directory had Polish diacritic in name
Program made by Polish company mind you SwitchySippy

crimson wigeon
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And on Linux you dare have a space in a file or directory name and some script is going to choke on that sooner or later

magic minnow
rough osprey
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damn no one wants the iphone air

old marlin
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giggle yea

crimson wigeon
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I guess that's why it's called attackshark

old marlin
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S25E and iphone air tradeoff is just too big

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Motorola Edge 70 strikes a decent balance between being thin and being functional

rough osprey
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if air and 17 is at the same price now i might have to compare them again

old marlin
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not that I know why people want phones that thin

rough osprey
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lots of people still selling their air used for more then new rn

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😭

umbral heron
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Tiny batter neurosmol

rough osprey
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i sadly couldnt really test the weight in store

umbral heron
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Why buy Air + powerbank if you can get base which is basically the same thing

rough osprey
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the mechanism to secure it is way too heavy and bulky

analog sinew
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battery life is like the nr1 or 2 thing besides display quality that you want soo i see why

umbral heron
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But you can have powerbank that wastes 40% of energy stored in it because Apple didn't want to include 2 pins on the back of the phone hanaAYAYA

magic minnow
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Big munnies

umbral heron
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Apple not very Intelligence SilvervaleGiggles

magic minnow
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Honestly their Ai is so dogshit

fair gull
nimble arch
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TV man made a video on CD and MP3 players SwitchyHeHe

frozen ingot
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imagine not having a ton of cd's and dvd's rotting away in their cupboard

nimble arch
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I just have some vinyl records in a cupboard SwitchyHeHe

rough osprey
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no thxx

umbral heron
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I like my FLACs neko_love

nimble arch
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Just don't FLAC in public SwitchyHeHe

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vivid wigeon
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Someone here might know but does enabling VRR (freesync/g-sync, etc.) on the monitor side add any latency (even if disabled in gpu driver), specifically when fps is outside of the monitors max refresh rate (like 300+fps on a 240hz monitor for example)

sudden imp
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Open ai bought half of the entire supply chain of the worlds ram now it’s double the price for all ram

vivid wigeon
ashen spindle
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for best latency you want to use VRR+ vsync + reflex(where possible)

dim light
quasi nova
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will my wrist pad from the wooting 60 v1 work with the wooting 60 v2?

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gusty kiln
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Finally HD6__ but with more bass and better sound stage

vapid ruin
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$700 though

gusty kiln
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Fair for the all the small upgrades

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New driver tech too, so someone is going to have to help offset the R&D cost

vapid ruin
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Hmm, I guess that's fair. Not the sound signature that I like but I can see people liking this.

proud badger
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what is the difference between Wooting 60HE v2 and Wooting 80HE?

crimson wigeon
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The size

minor citrus
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The layout. And the 60HE v2 comes default with Lekker Tikken switches

warm ore
void flicker
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Hey guys i just ordered my wooting v2 but i regret not choosing the split spacebar so i want to cancel and re-order my wooting but this time with split spacebar, how long does it take to cancel my order and to get money back so i can rebuy?

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oops wrong channel

distant tapir
unkempt lake
distant tapir
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Focal headphones are a no-buy to me because after improving bass with EQ the exertion limit is not that hard to reach

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He'd be right if he said that 107 dB at 1 000 Hz is extremely loud but he didn't even specify frequency. He's always so misleading

gusty kiln
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At the same time, he's saying that the D1 is better than the focal in that regard

distant tapir
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The D1 does look good

gusty kiln
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Yeah I'm tempted to get it

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Was looking at the HE600 before but this seems to blow it out of the water

wheat plume
gusty kiln
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I also don't eq my headphones so I probably would have been fine with either focal

distant tapir
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If I were to get back into headphones I would maybe get the D1. It's not too heavy, and has a very linear smooth easy to EQ FR, and low enough distortion to be inaudible at any volume I listen to

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Though I'd also wait for more measurements

gusty kiln
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I swap between like 3 headphones daily for work, gaming, and since earbuds for comfort

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So would be a pain to need to turn on and off eq or change eq

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Head set for work, earbuds for general use and 6xx for music

umbral heron
lunar elm
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So… if I add +200mhz I have a 7650x3d?

tacit ore
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i just bought a pc with a 5070ti and a 9800x3d W or L

latent mural
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If any of you know anything about laptops (not my cup of tea) my mother is looking for a Windows 11 one exclusively for work. I've done some research, but with a budget of $800 I don't really know what to go for here. Laptop market seems horrible, would rather her experience be optimal though.

She mainly needs it as a work laptop, doing excel sheets while screensharing. So I would expect 1080p 60 hz display, nothing crazy. I'm quite ignorant in this department, as I only deal with desktops and haven't looked at laptops in years.

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Whole market just seems like a minefield and Amazon is turbo sketch with their sellers :L

gusty kiln
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Can you go to a local best buy?

latent mural
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My initial idea was one of the AMD Gen 3 Thinkpads with possibility of upgrading the ram/adding NVMe straight from website

gusty kiln
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Probably don't need to spend more than 500 for a simple email machine

latent mural
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I just literally don't know what these things are capable of tbh. Last time I bought a lappy was almost a decade ago for college, some ODEN bullshit with a RTX 3060 in it and I wanted to die.

I live in a different country and she's busy 24/7 but I'll see if she can swing by

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I won't lie though I (personally) was mad crushing over the YouTuber only 128 GB RAM Laptops I was seeing in the past year or so.. People were saying a lot of em were tech releases only for hype shrug_weeb (or outright $3000)

bright briar
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@pale sigil this could have been you

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@unkempt lake @dull hollow

steady sail
analog sinew
reef patrol
analog sinew
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right? the design does have something legoesque to it

fallen laurel
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am i right in thinking magnetic switches don't need debounce algorithms? i just got the g515 rapid tkl to compare against wooting and it seems that has 20ms which can't be removed

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g515 rapid tkl

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60/80 HE

tribal kelp
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I have not had any issues with bounce. It may be switch and spring and keycap dependent?

fallen laurel
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wooting doesnt have anything that's noticable, it's just the logitech

fair gull
fallen laurel
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i thought so, thanks tony

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weird decision from them, kinda defeats the purpose of adding rapid trigger if you isolate it's application to single key

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wonder if it's also a thing on their full depth version

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since this is their 2.5mm switch one

fair gull
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they might also just have ported firmware from another keyboard and not even thought about adjusting/removing debounce time

fallen laurel
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yeah

marble robin
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?

severe thicket
ashen spindle
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if you want to test it for yourself accurately you need external hardware

willow nebula
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can u somehow chance the macro from 20ms to 1 ms is this possible ?

ashen spindle
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what macro?

willow nebula
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like for a keybind in the macro app

ashen spindle
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I dont think the macro app is actively maintainted at the moment

lunar elm
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afaik it isnt at all

frozen drift
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This looks so freaking cool not going to lie

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Btw, does anyone know if the corsair k70 pro max HE keyboard uses full HE layout or is a mix between HE and mechanical switches?

hasty jay
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I'm planning to order a Wooting 60HE V2 and have a question about the case and keycaps.
I really like the Optimum case and keycaps—are they fully compatible with the 60HE V2?

steady sail
hasty jay
frozen drift
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And okay wtf, what kind of i9 9900K runs on such a nice looking modern AIO?

steady sail
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Soo true YEP

frozen drift
halcyon moss
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1.000.000.000.000 Usd for musk. That's just utrerly sickening

tribal kelp
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Might not like the dude.
Might not like his companies.
But hard to deny his work ethic.

umbral heron
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Sitting on Twitter whole day and shitposting? hanaconfuse

tribal kelp
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lol

fair gull
umbral heron
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Fair HanaNodders

halcyon moss
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I wish I got that amount of money for it

tribal kelp
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Pretty sure when you have that kind of money you pay people to shit post for you, just like you pay people to play games for you.

umbral heron
tribal kelp
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Or maybe he does personally shit post too, just because he bought the toy to rename it? Heck if I know.

fair gull
tribal kelp
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Plausible. 😂

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Kinda sums up big corporate CEOs in a nutshell.

rough osprey
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what??

umbral heron
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GAMBA SilvervaleBlankies

analog sinew
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lul

rough osprey
latent mural
alpine patio
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i can now easily see my odds for jesus returning in 2025

umbral heron
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You gotta be like this guy who put a bet that someone will run onto the pitch and then did it himself KEKW

vapid ruin
alpine patio
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bro 47% jesus returns before gta 6

vapid ruin
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Aww man, i want jesus to return after gta 6

distant tapir
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Or at the very least be announced

frozen drift
warm ore
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We have too many of those people in this day and age, very bad.

frozen drift
warm ore
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I won't compile a list for you, but plenty of arrogant and clueless spitting words around.

frozen drift
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Like no but, how can we say elon musk is a good engineer when he comes up with ridiculously dangerous things like cybertruck, which has terrible safety because of overcomplicated electronics/non-functional electronic systems, a stainless steel outer body that rusts because he doesn't understand basic material science required for his engineering work, and the shape of the panels that can cut off human flesh(fingers even).

frozen drift
warm ore
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You are, i haven't said anything about him.

frozen drift
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I was continuing from a conversation that ended earlier so-, anyway...

warm ore
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I'm sorry but i was not aware of that.

mild patrol
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is AMD Ryzen 7 5800x good?

ashen spindle
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it can be

mild patrol
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and streaming

ashen spindle
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are you looking to buy a new pc with it?

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or do you have one or are you getting it cheap etc.

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cant just ask these things in a vacuum

umbral heron
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GPU matters more for streaming, although AMD and Nvidia both have codec chips which help during streaming

frozen drift
# mild patrol for val?

For valorant(only for gaming) and not streaming, going down the 5800X3D might be better since valorant is a competitive FPS title that is not so GPU heavy and is very well optimised, it is definitely more CPU heavy. Either that or the 5900X 5950X is also good but I'm sure that 5800X3D would be the best option if you are stuck on AM4 platform

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The 5800X won't be a terrible choice though, it's just that if you have the money 5800X3D might be worthwhile.

umbral heron
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x900 are not - they have 2 CCUs with 6 cores each, while x800/x950 have 1/2 CCUs respectively, both with 8 cores
Consider x900 only for productivity tasks, not for gaming HanaNodders

ashen spindle
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thats why I asked first about more details because it vastly differs on if its an existing pc, cheap offer, new pc etc.

mild patrol
frozen drift
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Is the 900 really very bad for gaming? It's just reduced core count, no? Does it affect gaming performance by a lot? If yes then I take back what I said since I'm not well versed with it

frozen drift
ashen spindle
mild patrol
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my pc is new

ashen spindle
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what is your current cpu

umbral heron
mild patrol
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5600g

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r5

umbral heron
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More cores on one CCU, which matters here the most
Latency of communication between CCU is what kills performance

ashen spindle
frozen drift
mild patrol
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even the shops i know said it too

ashen spindle
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for any of them or just the 5800x3d?

mild patrol
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x3d series

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all of them

umbral heron
mild patrol
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my pc is just 2 years old

ashen spindle
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I mean then the 5800x is the best option yes, but do check if its not too much compared to getting a new platform

mild patrol
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turning 3 in nov 30 :3

mild patrol
ashen spindle
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yes thats fine then

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what is your gpu?

frozen drift
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Depends on your targets too tbh. What is the refresh rate of your monitor and is your FPS target

mild patrol
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a 3050

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don't judge me

ashen spindle
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thats fine

umbral heron
frozen drift
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Oh lol, nvm 5800X will be fine. I think any better CPU and your GPU will bottleneck your CPU.

ashen spindle
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just wanted to make sure you werent using the integrated gpu of the 5600g

mild patrol
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shit things happens to me, when i'm planning to buy parts they don't have it when i don't have plans they have it

frozen drift
mild patrol
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i mean does it interfere my rtx with the integrated one?

vapid ruin
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not sure if it still exist though

mild patrol
frozen drift
mild patrol
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i'm asian

vapid ruin
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that shouldn't stop you. Aliexpress is also asian.

mild patrol
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also they dont ship

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in ph

ashen spindle
mild patrol
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also it doubles the price

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the normal price is 13k ph pesos

ashen spindle
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rip

warm ore
warm ore
pale sigil
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@ashen spindle how's gigabyte these days with mobos

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I vowed to never use them again but I might have to

ashen spindle
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They are all the Same

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If you do OC and some other advanced features like idk raid setups or whatever maybe there’s reason to avoid some

pale sigil
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Costs more but it's the only decent first slot GPU matx

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Which is kinda needed for the GPU to breathe in the case in thinking about

ashen spindle
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Oh you mean where it is physically on the board?

pale sigil
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Ye

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It's kinda my solution to the whole worrying about GPU heat

ashen spindle
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Yeah that would avoid it all

pale sigil
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However I did also find this case which is a lot bigger but I like it.

umbral heron
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If you want mesh then why not Fractal North hanaconfuse

ashen spindle
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Well case with handle makes sense if you think about moving it around

pale sigil
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Which btw jn a wheelchair is a giant pita lol

pale sigil
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Also the first pic I sent has a mesh version I'll be getting

umbral heron
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Big case, set it on desk, very easy access to IO, even on wheelchair hana_Yes

pale sigil
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It isn't though

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Also my desk is 120cm

pale sigil
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And having to pull it out and rotate would be annoying, even so if I got the fractal it would be on the floor like my current

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And again it would be a pita for maintenance for me, my current one already weighs a ton lol

It would be nice to be able to put my computer in the livingroom for gaming too maybe, with the handle and all.

Moonlight I just can't get running well on my TV unless I plug my laptop in and tbh Id rather play native on a TV.

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Also fractal is overpriced

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I am conflicted though, I've always wanted an itx build in general but didn't like the compromises, however this case uses micro atx which is neat, on the other hand I want to not worry about thermals etc 😅

Do I go with what I've wanted for literally 10+ years or do I carry on with a more logical approach?

warm ore
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Hard to say, SFF can be made well cooled, but you spend more if you wanna do it properly, you also don't really have the components to justify that however.
Mid tower and up is cool cause some of them are pretty small still, but fit alot of capability for cooling to never have to worry.
And from all your exchanges it's evident that you are very mindful of budget and don't come to conclusions fast, so you won't be spending big.
I would say take some time to make the decisions and then stick to them.

fervent kraken
tribal kelp
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Small builds can perform well with top tier gaming CPU/GPU in them. You're just stuck with very specific part selection and the GPU availability can be a challenge, like if you're only able to fit a Founder's Edition, that becomes problematic.

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Are you technically thermally compromised? Yes. Are the thermals actually throttling your performance? Maybe not in any meaningful way.

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I'd say if you have the GPU already, then build small around it and enjoy the tiny build.

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If you're hunting for a GPU to finish your tiny build, my condolences.

mild patrol
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is this enough for r7 5800x?

lunar elm
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yes

warm ore
pale sigil
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Pretty cool

gusty kiln
#

Apparently the super cards are canceled?

pale sigil
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I just read that too

rough osprey
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nice

gusty kiln
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Ai cards slurping up all the memory chips

nimble arch
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It's like there's enough competition to justify new cards

rough osprey
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someone should make a new company that also produces gpus

gusty kiln
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AMD lucked out, 18gb 5070 would have killed any reason to buy a 9070xt

nimble arch
unkempt lake
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If they arent cancelled

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The price is gonna be a good meme

reef patrol
vapid ruin
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rest in peace, my dream for 48gb vram setup

ashen spindle
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maan the boring gambling ad bots are back

nimble arch
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<@&1098943457654997093>

gusty kiln
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Modddddddsssss

nimble arch
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Time for Cals to earn that next maid outfit Kappa

tribal dirge
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cauz like, GDDR7 is dog slow compared to HBM3

ashen spindle
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ai is using fab capacity not any one specific memory type

tribal dirge
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true, those B200s need to be fabbed somewhere

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speaking of, I got to demo a DGX B200 system not too long ago, and man is that thing a beast.

gusty kiln
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Think all the gddr7 is going to the rtx pro 6000

ashen spindle
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no you dont fab memory on wafers that could make the dies, its just the capacity they or any ai chip needs

gusty kiln
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Or at least the remaining supply

ashen spindle
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nah they dont exist in high volume

tribal dirge
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iirc the SuperPODs have like 72 B200s in one system

ashen spindle
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yeah, that way you have a lot of spares when one fails havo

tribal dirge
sleek herald
#

hello guys do any of you have any wireless mouse recommendations that arent super expensive

fervent kraken
sleek herald
unkempt lake
pale sigil
unkempt lake
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yay

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the tldr is it doesn't matter

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myth busted

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1% battery health difference over 2 years basically negligible

ashen spindle
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thought that was well known?

unkempt lake
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Same with people thinking wireless charging kills their devices

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Just good old myths persisting

ashen spindle
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well I wouldnt call it a myth, just like it used to be that you should fully drain the battery first or not overcharge it etc. its mostly from the first implementations

ashen spindle
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fast charging can still be bad just they usually put it into safe margins

unkempt lake
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I still remember getting shit luke an rc car as a kid and having to fully charge it once before i used it smh

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but those remnants of old tech most people just have it stuck in their minds

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Same with old cellphones or old mp3 players

unkempt lake
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2.5%-4% battery health difference

halcyon moss
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On my S25u 80% is enough to easily get through the day

unkempt lake
halcyon moss
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Nah. Sometimes I put it to 100 when I expect a long day

unkempt lake
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The only device i enabled a charge limit on is my switch 2 because it sits in the dock a lot

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If i was going on a trip i'd turn it off tho

halcyon moss
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I'm at 11% now though.. But this is far from a normal day... 🤒

pale sigil
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I get about 7-8 hours out of mine, I charge to 80 or 100% just before I sleep and unplug it so it's not charging overnight

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I'm quite happy with it since I didn't pay an obscene amount for a phone

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I could probably get far more if I didn't force 1440p all the time and 120hz, I disabled dynamic refresh rate as it annoyed me

halcyon moss
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I'm also at 1440p and 120hz

warm ore
heavy parrot
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Took a flyer on this as an open box deal from Amazon, and I think literally only the outside box was opened because the seal on the anti-static bag was completely in tact. Assuming it works properly (can't test until later this weekend), it'll be a heck of a find for $200. I'm going to hold onto it as a spare GPU and sell it with the rest of my current desktop hardware when Zen 6 comes out, which I'll be pairing with my current RTX 4080 FE.

abstract igloo
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a

pale sigil
wheat plume
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why am I missing VRR now???

tribal dirge
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I know AMD drivers like to explode like that

compact scaffold
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my pc makes this funky noise literally all the time when it’s on, how do i fix it and what is it?

heavy parrot
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Fan out of balance or a bad bearing maybe? Can you disconnect them one at a time and see if it goes away?

compact scaffold
warm ore
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just pull it off the header to locate the one with the bad bearing

heavy parrot
compact scaffold
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guys what’s a header i don’t know anything

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i’m like 99% sure it’s this one right here

heavy parrot
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Follow the wire from your fan to the spot on the motherboard where it's plugged in. Disconnect it, turn on your computer again, and see if the noise stops. If not, turn your computer off, reconnect the fan you just unplugged, then go to the next fan. Lather, rinse, repeat. If you unplug your CPU fan (the one that says Intel on it), you can still troubleshoot the noise, but the computer likely won't boot. Just hold the power button to turn it off in that case.

compact scaffold
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okay i know i sound dumb and stuff but i don’t touch the computer at all and i know nothing about it, im pretty sure its the fan i drew a circle around but i don’t see any wires coming from it

ashen spindle
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if you can open the other side try looking from there

warm ore
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If you still can't see it then, shut it off, unscrew that fan, and as you pull it a bit away, you will see the cable and can track it

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Dusting it out could also help, had occasions where it got rid of sounds for me.

compact scaffold
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thank you guys you are great

rose folio
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Why are gaming PCs so much easier to shop for than gaming monitors ugh

distant tapir
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Picking a monitor before we had high refresh rate monitors was horrible

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Every display was matte and with numerous compromises

nimble arch
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OLED for life

gray edge
nimble arch
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Nah, your friends are weird for not using an OLED.

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Dab on the haters.

unkempt lake
gray edge
unkempt lake
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Brighter + no burn in + great colors

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And the blacks still look great

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You get the best of both

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  • no oled vrr flicker
gray edge
# unkempt lake + no oled vrr flicker

buttttttttttttt OLEDS have Perfect blacks, infinite contrast, instant response time, better color saturation in dark scenes and ofc they have a slight burn-in risk and some VRR flicker but its nothing crazy especially in higher end models

pale sigil
rose folio
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Sure, OLED is great but still doesnt make it easier to find what im looking for. Im a little picky what I want and its hard to find something that checks all the boxes.

warm ore
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It's not easy even for some of the most informed of us, because manufacturers make some obscure ass SKU codes, sometimes differing several times between geographical locations

distant tapir
rose folio
warm ore
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And there were instances of this where the base model had a feature or module you needed, but the region specific one didn't, so you can always get bamboozled that way

distant tapir
rose folio
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Lmao why

distant tapir
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You're locked to getting oled btw if you want that with 1 ms response times. I'm not aware of any curved 16:9 LCDs with very low response times

distant tapir
# rose folio Lmao why

Because 16:9 (at the typical 32 inch sizes) is not wide enough to justify the curve for most people

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They usually say it's distracting or that it forces them to sit very close to the display

rose folio
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(Me who likes my 27" curved monitor)

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Idk how that make it so you need to sit closer?

heavy parrot
rose folio
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Maybe with the harder 1000R curve? I haven't used 1000R but I know its a tighter curve

distant tapir
rose folio
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I found of pic of my setup, I sit fairly close

rose folio
balmy vector
rose folio
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Just bought a new PC and I wanna get a new monitor since my graphics card is way better now

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And while my current main monitor is very nice, I could def get more with a better one

dull hollow
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monitor upgrade before i upgraded my pc dogekek

rose folio
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Originally I was gonna replace the 2nd monitor but most gaming monitors nowadays are better than my main and it would be silly to have my 2nd be better than my 1st

dull hollow
rose folio
distant tapir
# rose folio

Do you ever dust your desk when there is so much stuff on it or does it make you lazy and avoid doing it

warm ore
rose folio
pale sigil
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Genuinely

rose folio
balmy vector
rose folio
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Yoshis sit elsewhere in my room tho, not enough space on the desk

balmy vector
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Based picks

pale sigil
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Why is choosing a case so difficult

unkempt lake
distant tapir
# unkempt lake

It's like using your name as your password.
You don't say!

fiery lagoon
tribal dirge
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MiniLED Bloom is so obvious too, its high key annoying

rose folio
rose folio
dull hollow
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i feel like at 27in it isnt required

rose folio
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idk if I could fit larger than a 27" having 2 monitors up top, plus idk if I really need it bigger anyways

tribal dirge
rose folio
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Ive come to like my gentle 1500R curve

dull hollow
rose folio
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I worry I would feel weird having a main be flat and a 2nd be curved

dull hollow
dull hollow
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tho the curved is usually vertical

tribal dirge
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oh hell no

dull hollow
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i mean

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with how my 2 montirs are positioned

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it might as well look like that

rose folio
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hmmm

dull hollow
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i got 2 flat horizontal 27in angled slightly

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i couldnt center my main one

rose folio
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yeah, mine are slightly angled

dull hollow
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cable is too short

rose folio
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I bought longer cables

dull hollow
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i need to buy one

rose folio
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im told I should use display port when possible

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perhaps I should get a different cable if thats true

dull hollow
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i dont think i have any modern hdmi/dp cables

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that supports my monitor at least

rose folio
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monitor shopping is the worst tech shopping imo

dull hollow
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i need a cable that supports 1440p@360hz smile

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looked a little before but its like

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$45

tribal dirge
dull hollow
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id also have the move my monitor arm and both monitors… eh problem for future me

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or i can center it and have it hella close to my face or a massive gap behind my table

rose folio
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monitors be getting expensive sometimes Sweats

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$650 for the one im looking at... hoping for a good sale for BF

dull hollow
unborn wyvern
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LG 27GR83Q-B

frozen drift
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In my country they are all minimum around 1000 USD. Not cheap.

lyric hatch
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There's a wide spectrum of prices for OLEDs

frozen drift
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I was planning to buy a MSI QD-OLED 34 inch 3440X1440 240 Hz monitor

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but I am hoping that there's a tandem OLED for 3440X1440 34 inch monitor coming out soon, and hopefully a minimum of 240 Hz.

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Tbh, I am hopeful that asus or gigabyte might release it soon. Especially asus since they already made a 27 inch 1440p monitor with 540 Hz. If the market demand for 34 inch monitors are big I think asus will easily release it within 1.5 years.

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And oh god asus's new tandem OLED 27 inch(the one reviewed by optimum), their coating is SO GOOD, it makes overhead lighting on OLED seem like a total non-issue. How great is that. Like man I don't want to buy things from asus if possible but if they release something like that for 34 inch, I am 100% buying it.

lofty pivot
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now if asus could make the same screen but minus the silly silver front border

frozen drift
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but seriously the screen coating for asus's OLED monitors are unmatched, even if I dislike them as a company.

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If within 1-2 years no tandem OLED 34 inch comes out, I would just either buy QD-OLED 34 inch from MSI or mini-LED 34 inch

rose folio
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i am now learned there are multiple kinds of OLED

frozen drift
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And tbh, don't let the name fool you, both WOLEDs and QD-OLEDs are more similar than different to each other. It's just that QD-OLEDs are enhanced with Quantum dots technology, offering better colour volume and some other colour related advantages, but there's also the issue that most manufacturers(especially asus) pair QD-OLED with some screen coating that makes the screen look pinkish when exposed to harsh front-lighting directly on the screen, rather than bright white.

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There are other subtle differences, but OLEDs are still OLEDs, both W-OLED and QD-OLED will offer you GREAT visual experiences.

lunar elm
rose folio
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I'm looking at Samsung's 27 Inch Odyssey OLED G6 G61SD

lunar elm
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price and naming is especially horrendous

frozen drift
distant tapir
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I use the PG27UCDM, Asus

frozen drift
rose folio
frozen drift
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Like, they are the first one to make a split HE keyboard

frozen drift
rose folio
frozen drift
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And also their eGPU docks like the XG mobile, and even their upcoming thunderbolt 5 open eGPU dock that actually has the portability that makes sense(although no PSU included), still better than the stupid razer chroma V2 dock from razer, like oh boy that eGPU dock is dogwater in terms of design because it defeats the purpose of portability.

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Again, asus charges a butt-ton of money for their products, I think it's ridiculous, but at least they do make innovative products(somewhat). So I can respect them for this specific thing.

rose folio
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they get the ball rollin

frozen drift
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Like, I don't see MSI doing anything like that, maybe only razer but still other than a oversized non-portable eGPU dock and thunderbolt 5 docks(which aren't that impressive IMO), I really don't see many other companies coming up with new products.

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Except lenovo who does some fancy stuff like 3D monitor for their legion 9i, which is pretty darn cool IMO.

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And also I guess you can say like asus makes other innovative stuff like their RTX 5090 limited edition with custom BIOs for 800 W of power draw(designed to draw power from both the 12-volt HIGH FAILURE connector + their BTF connector), which is pretty innovative too IMO.

lunar elm
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Then you have china with 2001w 5090d vbios

lunar elm
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only possible on galax HOF

lunar elm
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if we include the 1k the 800w isnt special

frozen drift
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oh wells, but it's still pretty cool regardless.

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I feel like MSI is also just making me go "WTF" in terms of their product quality. So seriously, as much as I want to support other companies because I don't like asus's customer support(I never experience it myself before) but MSI cannot even make a competitive high-end gaming laptop properly.

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Like brother, how can you market your cooler having the industry's biggest vapour chamber, slap on the highest price tag, and the end product has poor performance because of inadequate cooling, no g-sync, the monitor sucks because it's 4k 120 Hz only(I mean I know 4k 240 Hz mini-led doesn't exist), and no advanced optimus? Not to say asus makes much better 18 gaming laptop, but man it's a tough pill to swallow lol

unborn wyvern
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34 inches is crazy

frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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nah like i mean it shifts the purpose

frozen drift
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I mean many people are using 32 inches monitor too(I think majority uses 27 inch)? Also got people use 45 inches 32:9 aspect ratio(I won't go down this route, too hard for me to see/use tbh).

frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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like i would never tell you what to do so dont take it like that but

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just buy a TV at that point

frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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from my perspective and opinion

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if you want gaming 27" is the sweet spot

frozen drift
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Would you say that to people who uses 32 inches monitor then?

unborn wyvern
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i use a 32

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but not as my main

frozen drift
frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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wait u right

frozen drift
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but TV screens are like 50+ inches lol, the size is still A LOT bigger than 34 inches

unborn wyvern
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battlefield 6 on a 34 would be like

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crazy good

frozen drift
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  • like, TV don't have high refresh rate
unborn wyvern
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oh no yeah totally

frozen drift
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  • I doubt you would want to place a TV on top of your desk, and spinning your head around just to look at the whole thing, imagine the neck strain lol
unborn wyvern
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but what i mean is bigger screens are more for like watching shows nad stuff and cinematic

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so might as well go all out

frozen drift
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Yeah but I'm talking about using 34 inches monitor gaming and everyday task tho?

unborn wyvern
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but its 100% preference

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like im crazy and i use 24.5

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nobody agrees with me

frozen drift
frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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24.5 is like for professional gamers

loud tulip
#

Hello Guys im new to wooting, is it possible to make a pickup macro? Like If i hold E then it will macro the button E

unborn wyvern
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besides that it doesnt have a good use becuase you dont need that extra milisecond of less eye movemnet

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so i wouldnt reccomend it to someoene else

frozen drift
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but like, you yourself said it, TVs aren't meant for on desk setups and gaming/close screen uses, so I kind of don't understand why you would suggest people buying 34 inch monitors to get a TV lol

unborn wyvern
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wait you dont use monitor stands

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bro you are missing out

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its the most beautiful thing ever

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i almost cried when i got mine

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im joking*

frozen drift
unborn wyvern
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i dont think monitor stands support tvs

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i think its only for monitors

frozen drift
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lol.

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You are just trolling me right 😂

unborn wyvern
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no i wasnt

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in a non rude way i said who would ever propose that a monitor stand could hold a tv

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it was obviously meant as a separate question not pertaining to the discussion earlier in the conversation

halcyon moss
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It's about weight and mounting options.

magic minnow
#

I do love reading on e ink

blazing oak
#

j

magic minnow
spring ginkgo
robust swan
#

My first PC is finished

halcyon moss
#

Enjoy!

sour flume
#

anyone got any gaming headsets that are good in basically everything, like noise isollation, sound quality, comfort etc reccs? i was thinking of the new blackshark v3 pro

rough patrol
#

Gaming headset or sound quality

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Pick one

pale sigil
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especially wireless ones

sour flume
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tbh i just saw how good iems are

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they have everythign i want

rough patrol
#

I would recommend a good pair of headphones and a separate mic

sour flume
sour flume
halcyon moss
#

Beyer dynamic mmx200

umbral heron
#

I feel like Linux devs are choosing the worst way to do things possible
I just wanted to play Android game on PC
I had to install Waydroid, integrate it into system, install libraries because it's x86_64 and doesn't recognize ARM and now I have to play with evdev, because they didn't bother to include keyboard to touch mapper 02dead2

dull hollow
#

Hoping they drop to somewhere around 250

nimble arch
sour flume
dull hollow
vapid ruin
# sour flume sound quality

hd560s or if you want more comfort hd490 pro. The latter is an upgrade to hd560s in every way but cost $250 more. If you want something good. IEM wise, Kiwi Ears Astral is a good pick for $200.

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IEM is great for sound quality and noise isolation, so maybe go with that.

misty scaffold
vapid ruin
#

not sure about that when crinear Reference about to come out.

misty scaffold
#

quality is on par with $300-400 sets at $260 cant really complain about

vapid ruin
#

oh yeah, lmao

misty scaffold
#

best is highly subjective

vapid ruin
#

for $150 I would go for supermix 4 if you okay to EQ. It has a really nice separation and detail, the only bad thing it has for me is the tuning.

wheat plume
#

Is there a good local media player for iPhone?

ashen spindle
#

yes

unkempt lake
#

There's good wireless gaming headsets out there

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Like the fractal scape

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Or the maxwells

sour flume
minor zealot
#

should i get Asus XG27AQWMG or ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG Gen2 (XG27AQDMGR)

vapid ruin
dull hollow
bright briar
#

@unkempt lake price of ram dropped on amazon

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340 to 309 team group

unkempt lake
bright briar
#

but maybe the world is healing again

unkempt lake
gusty kiln
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nah they just reach the point where no one was willing to buy it at that price

unkempt lake
#

xD

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ai will buy it

gusty kiln
#

they won't be buying it from amazon, they will be buying b2b

devout raptor
left fjord
#

what is the differences between lekker tikken and the lekker v2 60

distant tapir
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My left ear is apparently incompatible with any earbuds I have ever tried. Doesn't stay in for more than 10 seconds. Th technology is unusable to me

tame charm
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Im trying to decided what headphones I should even get

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I dont want one with a mic on it

distant tapir
leaden kiln
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most iems fit pretty poorly for me but not that bad
Some sculpted iems fit well and most tws I’ve tried too

tame charm
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kinda leaning towards sennheiser

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what about the 490s? @distant tapir

distant tapir
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I'd EQ both of course, but the 560S is a lot cheaper

tame charm
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I just want something to upgrade from the the original hyper x cloud headphones 🤣

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Ive had them for long enough

tame charm
distant tapir
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If you won't EQ then I wouldn't buy them. You'd probably find the low amount of bass disappointing. But it can be fixed and perfected easily with EQ

tame charm
distant tapir
wheat plume
tame charm
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@distant tapir actually perfect timing they have one pair left at my nearest best buy

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i can get them today

distant tapir
bright briar
devout raptor
tame charm
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its like 199 instead of 280

pale sigil
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Nothing really fucked up

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I feel bad that I encouraged my sister to get one

wheat plume
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It comes with Facebook, insta and Twitter preinstalled I think, and Glimpse on the lock screen

minor zealot
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lets say i have a 280hz monitor, i can easily run that fps but i cap it at 240fps ingame since its way more stable and you will most likely never notice the difference between 240 and 280, is that a good idea?

ashen spindle
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does your monitor support VRR?

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if yes just enable vsync and VRR and you're set

minor zealot
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its a new monitor that is coming out so i assume it will support vrr

ashen spindle
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yeah no need to change it in windows

minor zealot
ashen spindle
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that is VRR yes

thick ermine
minor zealot
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and on in the control panel

thick ermine
minor zealot
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got it

thick ermine
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the control panel setting will override it. if you enable in both, itll cause a bunch of latency and stuttering

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if you don't have gsync though, don't follow any of those instructions.

ashen spindle
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uh, for newer games in dx12/win11 you want to use the ingame vsync not the nvcp one

minor zealot
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it does have vrr

minor zealot
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wait do i turn on vsync for game specific in the nvcp

ashen spindle
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just set it as on in general as a override that makes it easier

minor zealot
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fair

ashen spindle
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and enable reflex in games that have it, fortnite probably does

minor zealot
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do you mean low latency reflex ?

ashen spindle
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nvidia reflex in ingame settings for games that support it

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whatever they call it in the settings idk

minor zealot
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yea they do call it there

ashen spindle
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thats an ai answer thats not saying anything

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but yes its going to be called something like that

minor zealot
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yea its that

thick ermine
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blurbusters does a decent explanation

minor zealot
ashen spindle
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yes thats the easiest and will work

thick ermine
# minor zealot

use on if gpu is your bottleneck or on+boost if your cpu is your bottleneck

minor zealot
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also an additional question, i will have a 280hz main 1440p oled monitor a 144hz 1080p ips side monitor and 1 75hz 1080p ips side monitor, do i cap both side monitors to 60hz since its literally only used for browsing, discord and music?

minor zealot
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no clue whats the bottleneck

minor zealot
ashen spindle
minor zealot
ashen spindle
minor zealot
ashen spindle
minor zealot
ashen spindle
thick ermine
ashen spindle
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well it's not about the apps running hard, its if you use something like discord or a browser with hardware acceleration on monitors with different refresh, that could cause stutters

thick ermine
minor zealot
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so for fn its on+boost since cpu is the bottleneck

thick ermine
ashen spindle
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I mean thats not how that works, hw acceleration means it uses the decoders in your gpu its not using the hardware the games are using

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unless your gpu is like super in its power limit I guess maybe that could draw some power away

thick ermine
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@ashen spindle ok so I went through my settings because maybe I'm not communicating it right. In display settings I've got the hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling on but in my browser I've got graphics acceleration disabled. When I'm playing a game and want a video or movie to stream in the background on my second monitor, the quality of the streamed video is bad when acceleration is enabled in the browser.

ashen spindle
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HAGS in windows is something else yes

thick ermine
ashen spindle
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if the browser settings makes it look worse that means either a driver or browser setting seems to be broken

ashen spindle
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yes its a commonly known issue that people run into

minor zealot
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got it

thick ermine
ashen spindle
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obv if you dont get a benefit the simplest way is to not enable it, but usually changing the rendering setting in chrome flags or w/e browser or a driver change fixes that and it no longer looks blurry or worse

minor zealot
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even if its in games like GOW where i wanna run max graphics and it def wont hit 280?

ashen spindle
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vsync is to keep the fps in your monitors refresh rate so you dont go above VRR range

ashen spindle
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unless you drop so low its out of VRR range but thats usually like <30fps or so

thick ermine
minor zealot
minor zealot
ashen spindle
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no you want your gpu to run at max, thats what you have it for, let the hardware work dogekek

minor zealot
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Fair so i do those settings in nvcp and never cap fps in games?

thick ermine
warm ore
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You can test it, but Vsync on it's own shouldn't cap FPS.
It's used in conjuction with Gsync to prevent tearing in ALL instances (sort of a frametime compensator).
You would wanna use in prio Ingame cap>RTSS cap.

thick ermine
minor zealot
minor zealot
# thick ermine nah

so fn has a ingame cap of 240 then 360, you would turn on vsync, gsync and low latency and put the cap on 360 then?

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why not 240 tho?

ashen spindle
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you dont need to set any cap, vsync+vrr takes care of that

thick ermine
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the old method was something like -15% of your monitor's refresh rate (but at least 3fps) to ensure vsync wouldn't double buffer with gsync but its a non-issue now afaik

warm ore
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It still overshoots, thats why it's recommended to cap.

minor zealot
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yea why would i let my gpu and cpu run at max performance getting 500+fps when i only need 280 (240 for fn)

warm ore
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There are some menus that go far higher even, zero reason to let it.

thick ermine
minor zealot
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i dont need super smooth leafs and trees or clouds in fn, i dont look in detail to it

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in single player story games and stuff like mc, sure

ashen spindle
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cs2 devs and nvidia say you want to to vsync+ VRR+reflex because that takes care of preventing overshooting the refresh rate but you still get people saying the old method of setting lower fps caps is the way to go..

thick ermine
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you're not going to get 500fps if you set gsync, vsync, and low latency modes properly

tame charm
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@twilit schooner from here whats next

warm ore
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I don't know how CS2 in specific behaves, but from experience the overshoot happens without a proper cap in other titles.

minor zealot
minor zealot
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well around,

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alright ill try it out when the monitor comes in

warm ore
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Also RTSS now has Reflex implementation instead of Async, it's been fairly consistent.

thick ermine
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like with the settings enabled, it automatically caps my 120hz monitor at 117fps and my 240hz monitor at like 235fps

minor zealot
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okay so ur gpu/cpu wont be ''overworking'' on useless frames if u setup up the nvcp properly

thick ermine
warm ore
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exactly 1 frame of input lag, but only if compared to ingame limiters.
Hence the priority Ingame cap > RTSS cap

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Atleast thats what it should be, i'm not sure since the Reflex implement if it lowered at all (doubt).

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But ingame caps aren't always available and RTSS is a very handy tool anyways, closest to no additional latency possible and you can use your custom or premade OSDs

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On games where i have ingame cap, i disable RTSS handling it obviously

thick ermine
warm ore
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Then spend some time to read about it so it meets your standards, this is how it was explained.

thick ermine
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source?

minor zealot
ashen spindle
minor zealot
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wait couldn't i set a fps cap globally in nvcp???

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i found this

ashen spindle
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why are we still on fps caps

minor zealot
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and found that thread

ashen spindle
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ignore it, in games like counterstrike or fortnite where you want best latency you reflex which has a built in frame cap anyway

minor zealot
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top one is for ONLY fullscreen i think

ashen spindle
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im not sure if with the new way to render fullscreen that is still needed but yes that definitely covers it

thick ermine
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do the bottom one so it'll optimize for both windowed and fullscreen

minor zealot
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yea i turned on vsync and gsync, unlimited fps but it doesnt go over refresh rate and is way more stable

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nice

warm ore
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I didn't see what game or games you were looking this info for, but in case it's competitive, if the absolute lowest latency was the actual priority, consider uncapped without all the above, as that would still be king.
Ofcourse if tearing is something that bothers you, the sacrifice have to be made.

ashen spindle
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consider uncapped without all the above, as that would still be king
no its not thats why cs devs even put a popup into the game that says vsync+vrr+reflex is the best

twilit schooner
tame charm
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pinged the wrong s

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my fault

vapid ruin
# tame charm <@261906509766721537> from here whats next

Best tips is just play a song and adjust the slider up and down just a little bit (like 1-5 step). The first few handles how loud the bass, the middle ish handle the most instrument, and for the latter, adjust until it doesn't feel harsh/painful/boring to you.

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If it sounds 'bad'/not to your liking no matter what, it means the default tuning is perfect for you and you don't need to use that(EQ).

distant tapir
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You are very likely to find it to be an improvement

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Adjust it from there like instructed. I'll show you

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Click on auto EQ (which I don't know where is), or just type them in manually

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Okay I downloaded the software to show you

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You need to use the version with the expanded menu

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Just exit the program and choose it when you re-open it

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Click here

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Here in the top bar you want to select the OPRA by Roon Labs one

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Select this one (not the one below) and click use

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Then when you try it out by listening to music, adjust these to preference