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ASSRock
on the bright side, we getting a GN video soon
ASRock just can't catch a break these days.
isn't asrock like a really good brand, why I recently keep seeing their mobo frying CPUs left and right.
Like damn son, this is not good man.
Are we?
Last video was literally
we dont know here's 45 mins of info
Also, how does 9700X compare to 265k from intel? Are AMD non-X3D chips better than intel in terms of productivity?
intel beats amd in productivity
At that tier
- you can get intel ultra chips for dirt cheap as of late
For gaming tho it's amd all the way
9700X destroys intel's 265k or even 285k in terms of gaming as well?
if you want the top gaming you get amd with the 9800x3d, otherwise intel in 90% of cases
well also depends on how fast you go with your memory, if you take time for OC etc.
if you want something mid range, and be able to upgrade for cheaper 4 years later
go amd
i'd argue amd is the better option in 99% of cases
In a standard condition, meaning normal, no intensive bios settings/OCing, does the 9700X beat 265k in terms of gaming? Or 285k. I know future proofing is important but let's not factor that in.
depending on where you are thats just a lot more expensive so even if you have to get a new platform intel is the better deal with how cheap arl is in some deals
285k is often faster, it depends
intel 15th gen is a shitpost sometimes beaten by its older 14th gen chips
its gotten a lot better since release
proof?
the 200s boost is quite a nice upgrade
compare prices yourself
the ram overclock/memory boost for the core 200 series has improved the gaming performance a lot IIRC.
msrp wise amd was always cheaper
arl has dropped in sale price a ton
and you can keep your mobo for 6 years or smth
Anyway, I really hope intel can turn things around in the nova lake series lol.
arl?
arrow lake
Like I don't understand wtf is intel doing with their fking socket longevity.
Asrock never again
okay for me theres a 20 euro diff between 285 and r 7 9800x3d in favor of intel
but imo it has to be like 100-200 dollars cheaper in order to make up for intel forcing you to buy a new mobo every year
*when it works
Its like saying everyone should turn on pbo
no
And the am5 mobos are cheaper so doesn't matter
quin i don't know why you simp so much for intel
when they released the same products 3 times in a row
It's never really been a thing on intel, and realistically the majority of the market isn't utilizing the upgrade outside of enthusiasts
same fucking performance
intel is in a bad spot that doesnt make it bad when they are having good things?
can you show me the numbers
boards are starting at like 100$ same range as am5
again, different continents
what other continent uses euros?
the dollar sign here threw me off
i looked at both us and eu prices
oh so from different contients we now go to different countires when I started by saying
regadless am5 is going to give you a cpu upgrade 5 years down the line
intel will tell you to buy another mobo
no its not, its going to give you 1 more generation thats it
no but, look at AM4 and AM5 socket bruh. Intel is already losing the CPU war SO BADLY the recentmost decade and they are ending their latest socket support after only 1 generation of CPU? Like how?
a generation that's going to realistically havea 10-5% performance gain
Zen 6 is still in AM5 right? Then zen 7 moves to AM6
yes
no im running on dram production timelines
you cant make am5 use non ddr5 memory so that require a socket change
Like I'm not tripping right? They are ending the socket support after 1 generation(arrow lake) and nova lake will be utilising a new socket. Now, admittedly, I know intel understands that they fucked up so badly that they are going SUPER BIG next gen(assuming the leaks are accurate), like introducing more cache and having a buttload more cores, which requires massive redesign for the socket, so it make sense that they need new socket. But oh boy if the next gen CPUs from intel still sucks, then it will literally be AMD being the CPU version of nvidia and they run the show for at least another 10 years.
2027 or h2 of 2026
okay that's fair
make sense. DDR6 ram coming soon?
still years in the future and Amd are probably going to keep releasing am5 chips after that
sure but nothing you could consider an upgrade, the usual apu on desktop maybe and such
not soon for desktop
whatis soon
relative to when server gets it
no defined answer, maybe like H2 2026 or 2027
Yeah as i said above from google
I just wanted to see if quin had a different number
not on top of my head
The reason Intel is losing is not because of their socket longevity
tbh, why do people care about AM4 new releases when it's already such an old platform? For example, are there still many people running on like 5600 and is really looking for an upgrade like 5600X3D(hypothetical release)?
Otherwise I don't understand why AMD is releasing new budget AM4 options, like for who are they catering towards?
its for certain regions, oem contracts etc.
And what you're describing of AMD is where Intel was for a long time before very recently
I know, it's mainly because the X3D chips are destroying intel in terms of gaming competitions and also intel not having significant gains on their chips in recent years. But it doesn't help that the socket longevity is ass. Like for example, even if the core ultra 285k or 265k is cheap and provides good all-around value for people who wants BOTH productivity and decent gaming performance, people don't feel like buying it when AM5 have better longevity and the core ultra 200 series is a dead-end after one generation on this socket.
Honestly gaming chips at all mean very little as to why either of these companies are doing well/badly at the moment
At least that's my opinion, but of course I don't know too much about market share and business side of stuff, and I am not even a desktop user, so I may not think too deep in terms of things like that
Oh? Then why is intel struggling so f ing badly then?
and yes I am aware of this, wasn't AMD like a bit of a laughing stock prior to the introduction to zen CPUs?
Because their chip manufacturing fell very far behind
And you can't have competitive products without also having the manufacturing process to make them
manufacturing in terms of what? volume or tech/efficiency or what else?
are you saying this for intel's recent struggles or AMD's struggle prior to introduction to zen 1/2 CPUs?
It's actully not behind ANYMORE, just that it WAS for like 5 years
so the reason intel started to fall behind was their 10nm node
ever since then they went from leading with the best node to lagging behind tsmc
now they are like half a node behind roughly still
^from speculation because we have no 18A numbers
they are using TSMC's process node for arrow lake?
the otther issues are manifold, like LGA1851 which is the current cpu socket actually was planned for 4 generations
we only have arrow lake on it, but it was supposed to have metero, arrow, panther and beast lake
MTL was kinda bad so its laptops only
PTL also was moved to laptop only
oh, I didn't know intel was using their own process node up until the raptor lake
BST was cancelled
Arrow lake sucked, next product you should take real interest bc it uses their newest node + will get X3D variant
so the socket was made for 4 generations but only 1 of them ended up on desktop
Arrow lake legit regressed in terms of gaming performance, though the power efficiency and productivity performance improved.
its not a x3d variant its more haswell-e with L4 cache base tile
Until they introduced the memory controller boost
the other big issue was intel started having massive issues with server chips, sapphire rapids was had to do like a dozen revisions
also, the next intel platform is also planned to have 4 generations at this point
Yeah it was I think their first try at Chiplets so bad cache latency. I think it's pretty solved now so expect better next time.
no its not solved yet, the hope is with nova lake it will be much better
Yeah I think the ultra 300 series have to be good lol.
the d2d clocks even with 200s boost and what not have limits that just bottleneck the chips
We'll see. I have no reason to doubt them if AMD solved that too
well amd has been doing chiplets much longer and better
but even if that is solved with nova lake that doesnt guarantee they can leapfrog all of a sudden
neither is amd
zen6 has the same interconnect as strix halo, new packaging without SERDRES between ccd and iod
Ah mh
the other issue intel had with arrow lake is that it ended up on early N3 which wasnt a great node
but they had already commited to it, amd pulled out and put zen5 on N4 instead
is N3 still bad
not really just the early variant that arrow lake uses is meh
lul talk about luck
they just over commited to it, amd moved out and only put Zen5c on it
Guess we'll see how it turns out hopefully good for us as consumers if we have two competitive companies 
And hopefully Arc stays alive
yeah thats a bigger doubt
2 competitive companies is great for customers
This land has been dry for decades
always one or the other sucks turd
with LBT wanting 50% margins on new greenlight products arc is looking mighty dire
I dont really care about graphics myself that much. Always want the best cpu however
does wootverlay record and display analog input from other he/tmr keyboards?
im using monsgeek fun60 tmr and sayodevice to test it but it wont display analog inputs
interested to know if it displays analog input fine for other keyboards
Only if they support the SDK, which is highly highly unlikely
@ashen spindle lmao basically everything AH yesterday never happened
There might be third party adaptions floating around
classic lol
it's always those ER Timmies
damn
@gusty kiln What ETF to buy
I was looking at other Hall effect switches such as the gateron jades and was wondering will I still be able to get the rapid trigger and all that if I don’t use wooting lekkar switches in the wooting pcb? If someone can give me more info on this topic. Thank you so much.
you can still use anything wooting provides as long as its a hall-effect switch as those are software based
i see it still ends up whether or not its supported
The pcba is able to recalibrate when you plug it into the computer it can also be reset by removing the cable from either end.
Depending on the switch you may lose travel distance.
This all depends on the switch
However, to better understand wooting has quite decent sensors and one certain magnetic orientation works.
Everything else, the analog the extra features are all purely software from the data the sensors can gather.
https://youtu.be/I8HdlK3LIz4 damn holy sh*# that power draw
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its only 700w
5090 eat like 550w during gaming
Im not sure how intel CPUs fares in power draw but I think theres gonna be another 100w between XTX and 5090
Yeah I mean let's compare the 7900XTX to the 4090. Like damn. Also the 14900K is so horribly inefficient jeez
10nm eating away at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zydSB0LA5vg&t=633s
damn acer and MSI f**king sucks lol.
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The worst is definitely from MSI because how can they have such a poor cooling system when they claim they use the largest vapor chamber + the way they advertise their dedicated gen 5 SSD heatpipe and so on lol. RIP. Imagine using a "better" CPU than the competition and still having worse performance.
and it's thicker than most of them(except for the alienware 18 area 51). Acer's predator helios 18AI is also not good but at least it's because they just decided to compromise on the cooling(no vapor chamber) + it's the cheapest. It's terrible from MSI lol. Not to mention no advanced optimus or g-sync from MSI, and it's the most expensive. Jeez MSI
18" 
I'd prefer whole PC at this point 
gaming laptop, mistakes made
I think certain gaming laptops are fine, the legion 9i is actually a really great product all things considered.
Good gaming laptop is a laptop with nice screen and good networking card to stream from PC 
not everywhere has enough wifi speed to do that
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it's funny how razer made a TERRIBLE blade 16 in 2025 with some of the WORST QC but the blade 18 is really good because they focus on performance while still having SUPER good build quality and weighs light(relatively to 18 inch laptops)
Guess it's okay... a way to isolate PC's heat to a single room
I mean if you want to play in bed it's a better option than keeping hot laptop in the bed sheets
Btw, would it be a viable option for wooting to build a TKL/Full-sized keyboard but mix in mechanical switches for the F keys and non-important keys and numpads(for full-sized), which would technically save SOME power consumption and allows them to add in a USB pass-through? Just a question
It will save very little power though
LEDs are eating the most of the power
like the RGB lighting?

But uhh, I remembered one wooting staff here mentioned how it's mainly because of tachyon mode + HE switches are generally more power hungry tho. So that's why I had this idea. I mean you can always tune down RGB brightness by a bit to save power xD
- in tachyon mode the RGB is also toned down no?
Tachyon mode is not as much about power as much about signal integrity and processing power of MCU, that's why RGB effects are turned off in Tachyon mode
Also, are wooting's keyboards compatible with other switches such as gateron? Will it still retain the analog input capability?
For passtgrough you want a dedicated usb header anyways
Wooting uses gateron switches
Calsy since your in this chat, do you know if the v2 of the travel case also releases tomorrow?
They have to be ks-20 compatibke though
Doesn't wooting's keyboard use lekker switches?
or does gateron manufacture lekker switches?
Which are modified gateron ks-20s
oh

like a USB dock? Nah I prefer having 1 USB passthrough on my keyboard, it's pretty useful for me. I don't need that many USB plugs
but on laptop they are pretty limited so it's nice to have 1/2 extra ones.
No you want a dedicated usb cable that goes to your pc is what i mean
Orherwise you can't supply a fully specced port
Andrew did some rough power testing if you wanted to see the power draw with different settings https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404877920677269633/1410946884981231686/Power_Draw_Keyboards.png?ex=690d2cef&is=690bdb6f&hm=cd07d6e468f4b0862bcc3f773ae21b4780255d22e28758a7780147be71d9af40
80HE here 
Like connecting my a wooting keyboard to my laptop/PC via USB cable?
what's that third keyboard on the rightmost column?
Also, thank you for the information.
What is white RGB though?
UwU 
It does!

Yippee!
Today not tomorrow 
ffs guys... Just when i put 5k aside to buy a 5090, water blocks and stuff you drop that... You want me to be poor...

Yes 
Whoever is not using UTF-8 in big 25 in their programs may forever have wet socks and warm pillow 
Program was crashing because one of files in my home directory had Polish diacritic in name
Program made by Polish company mind you 
And on Linux you dare have a space in a file or directory name and some script is going to choke on that sooner or later

damn no one wants the iphone air
yea
I guess that's why it's called attackshark
S25E and iphone air tradeoff is just too big
Motorola Edge 70 strikes a decent balance between being thin and being functional
if air and 17 is at the same price now i might have to compare them again
not that I know why people want phones that thin
Tiny batter 
i sadly couldnt really test the weight in store
Why buy Air + powerbank if you can get base which is basically the same thing
the mechanism to secure it is way too heavy and bulky
battery life is like the nr1 or 2 thing besides display quality that you want soo i see why
But you can have powerbank that wastes 40% of energy stored in it because Apple didn't want to include 2 pins on the back of the phone 
Apple not very Intelligence 
Honestly their Ai is so dogshit
so pocket change for the month
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imagine not having a ton of cd's and dvd's rotting away in their cupboard
I just have some vinyl records in a cupboard 
no thxx
I like my FLACs 
Just don't FLAC in public 
I have not used a CD or DVD in probably a decade... lol
Someone here might know but does enabling VRR (freesync/g-sync, etc.) on the monitor side add any latency (even if disabled in gpu driver), specifically when fps is outside of the monitors max refresh rate (like 300+fps on a 240hz monitor for example)
Open ai bought half of the entire supply chain of the worlds ram now it’s double the price for all ram
You're forgetting the part where memory manufacturers openly make deals to produce less and drive the prices up to increase profit but yeah
for best latency you want to use VRR+ vsync + reflex(where possible)
Or tariffs you know
dont think they do this much longer, they just asked the US gov for assistance haha
will my wrist pad from the wooting 60 v1 work with the wooting 60 v2?
Yes. But it won't have the hook to keep them together.
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Finally HD6__ but with more bass and better sound stage
$700 though
Fair for the all the small upgrades
New driver tech too, so someone is going to have to help offset the R&D cost
Hmm, I guess that's fair. Not the sound signature that I like but I can see people liking this.
what is the difference between Wooting 60HE v2 and Wooting 80HE?
The size
The layout. And the 60HE v2 comes default with Lekker Tikken switches
Yes, with VRR on (even in your monitor's OSD menu specifically), when your framerate exceeds your refresh rate, input latency will be introduced.
Mine went to charity
Hey guys i just ordered my wooting v2 but i regret not choosing the split spacebar so i want to cancel and re-order my wooting but this time with split spacebar, how long does it take to cancel my order and to get money back so i can rebuy?
oops wrong channel
I'm surprised he says reaching 107 dB on some of the focal headphones which is the driver exertion limit is «extremely loud» which it isn't really. Reaching 107 dB in low frequencies is not hard
Focal headphones are a no-buy to me because after improving bass with EQ the exertion limit is not that hard to reach
He'd be right if he said that 107 dB at 1 000 Hz is extremely loud but he didn't even specify frequency. He's always so misleading
I mean he is sponsored by the a company that basically have exclusive rights to ask the old clear and elex
At the same time, he's saying that the D1 is better than the focal in that regard
The D1 does look good
Yeah I'm tempted to get it
Was looking at the HE600 before but this seems to blow it out of the water
🤔
I also don't eq my headphones so I probably would have been fine with either focal
If I were to get back into headphones I would maybe get the D1. It's not too heavy, and has a very linear smooth easy to EQ FR, and low enough distortion to be inaudible at any volume I listen to
Though I'd also wait for more measurements
Why don't you EQ?
I swap between like 3 headphones daily for work, gaming, and since earbuds for comfort
So would be a pain to need to turn on and off eq or change eq
Head set for work, earbuds for general use and 6xx for music
So bump multiplier by 1 and you have 7600X3D? 
So… if I add +200mhz I have a 7650x3d?
i just bought a pc with a 5070ti and a 9800x3d W or L
If any of you know anything about laptops (not my cup of tea) my mother is looking for a Windows 11 one exclusively for work. I've done some research, but with a budget of $800 I don't really know what to go for here. Laptop market seems horrible, would rather her experience be optimal though.
She mainly needs it as a work laptop, doing excel sheets while screensharing. So I would expect 1080p 60 hz display, nothing crazy. I'm quite ignorant in this department, as I only deal with desktops and haven't looked at laptops in years.
Whole market just seems like a minefield and Amazon is turbo sketch with their sellers :L
Can you go to a local best buy?
My initial idea was one of the AMD Gen 3 Thinkpads with possibility of upgrading the ram/adding NVMe straight from website
Probably don't need to spend more than 500 for a simple email machine
I just literally don't know what these things are capable of tbh. Last time I bought a lappy was almost a decade ago for college, some ODEN bullshit with a RTX 3060 in it and I wanted to die.
I live in a different country and she's busy 24/7 but I'll see if she can swing by
I won't lie though I (personally) was mad crushing over the YouTuber only 128 GB RAM Laptops I was seeing in the past year or so.. People were saying a lot of em were tech releases only for hype
(or outright $3000)
Letsgooo
that 16gb icon looks like a lego logo lol
I legit though that was a LEGO card until you pointed that out and I took a second look.
right? the design does have something legoesque to it
am i right in thinking magnetic switches don't need debounce algorithms? i just got the g515 rapid tkl to compare against wooting and it seems that has 20ms which can't be removed
g515 rapid tkl
60/80 HE
I have not had any issues with bounce. It may be switch and spring and keycap dependent?
wooting doesnt have anything that's noticable, it's just the logitech
correct. debouncing is for the metal contacts in the switch as they bounce a bit
i thought so, thanks tony
weird decision from them, kinda defeats the purpose of adding rapid trigger if you isolate it's application to single key
wonder if it's also a thing on their full depth version
since this is their 2.5mm switch one
they might also just have ported firmware from another keyboard and not even thought about adjusting/removing debounce time
yeah
?
what are u useing to test that
if you want to test it for yourself accurately you need external hardware
can u somehow chance the macro from 20ms to 1 ms is this possible ?
what macro?
like for a keybind in the macro app
I dont think the macro app is actively maintainted at the moment
afaik it isnt at all
oh okay unlucky
This looks so freaking cool not going to lie
Btw, does anyone know if the corsair k70 pro max HE keyboard uses full HE layout or is a mix between HE and mechanical switches?
I'm planning to order a Wooting 60HE V2 and have a question about the case and keycaps.
I really like the Optimum case and keycaps—are they fully compatible with the 60HE V2?
Yes if u dont pick split space bar version
Thanks 👍
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A i9 9900K with RTX 5090? Holy bottleneck lol
And okay wtf, what kind of i9 9900K runs on such a nice looking modern AIO?
Soo true 
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1.000.000.000.000 Usd for musk. That's just utrerly sickening
Might not like the dude.
Might not like his companies.
But hard to deny his work ethic.
Sitting on Twitter whole day and shitposting? 
lol
hard to deny its a nice one isnt it
Fair 
I wish I got that amount of money for it
Pretty sure when you have that kind of money you pay people to shit post for you, just like you pay people to play games for you.

Or maybe he does personally shit post too, just because he bought the toy to rename it? Heck if I know.
na you pay people to play and work for you so you can shitpost all day
what??
GAMBA 
lul

nice
i can now easily see my odds for jesus returning in 2025
You gotta be like this guy who put a bet that someone will run onto the pitch and then did it himself 
Financially motivated people be like
Aww man, i want jesus to return after gta 6
I think Half Life 3 will be released before it personally
Or at the very least be announced
I don't know about his work ethic but he is kind of arrogant considering he has limited knowledge on his own field and coming up with impractical ideas for many engineering stuff. Not to mention how he messed up twitter right after he bought it. Although it's getting better now.
We have too many of those people in this day and age, very bad.
Are you referring to musk or who?
I won't compile a list for you, but plenty of arrogant and clueless spitting words around.
Like no but, how can we say elon musk is a good engineer when he comes up with ridiculously dangerous things like cybertruck, which has terrible safety because of overcomplicated electronics/non-functional electronic systems, a stainless steel outer body that rusts because he doesn't understand basic material science required for his engineering work, and the shape of the panels that can cut off human flesh(fingers even).
Which I assume includes elon musk since we are talking about him?
You are, i haven't said anything about him.
I was continuing from a conversation that ended earlier so-, anyway...
I'm sorry but i was not aware of that.
is AMD Ryzen 7 5800x good?
it can be
are you looking to buy a new pc with it?
or do you have one or are you getting it cheap etc.
cant just ask these things in a vacuum
GPU matters more for streaming, although AMD and Nvidia both have codec chips which help during streaming
For valorant(only for gaming) and not streaming, going down the 5800X3D might be better since valorant is a competitive FPS title that is not so GPU heavy and is very well optimised, it is definitely more CPU heavy. Either that or the 5900X 5950X is also good but I'm sure that 5800X3D would be the best option if you are stuck on AM4 platform
The 5800X won't be a terrible choice though, it's just that if you have the money 5800X3D might be worthwhile.
x900 are not - they have 2 CCUs with 6 cores each, while x800/x950 have 1/2 CCUs respectively, both with 8 cores
Consider x900 only for productivity tasks, not for gaming 
thats why I asked first about more details because it vastly differs on if its an existing pc, cheap offer, new pc etc.
too bad 5800x3d is long gone here in the phillippines, they said they weren't restocking that chip for the past months
Is the 900 really very bad for gaming? It's just reduced core count, no? Does it affect gaming performance by a lot? If yes then I take back what I said since I'm not well versed with it
Then 5800X or 5950X it is. Both should be good enough. Edit: more like more than good enough
please just answer my questions, are you looking at buying a new pc or what is the situation
oh, im upgrading my cpu
my pc is new
what is your current cpu
Yeah, but only because x800s are cheaper while performing better at games than x900s 
How.
More cores on one CCU, which matters here the most
Latency of communication between CCU is what kills performance
then look if they have the 5700x3d or 5600x3d those would be the options to get, if they dont have them the next best option would be to upgrade the entire thing
Uhhh, that can't be it no? If it's 12 core I'm pretty sure the X900 CPUs have 6 cores on both CCDs
they said it's not restocking for the past months ;-;
even the shops i know said it too
for any of them or just the 5800x3d?
Yup, and preferably you want to keep game on one CCU, that's what game mode for x950s do
When you limit it on x900s then you have 2 cores less, and thus less performance than x800s
Make sense I guess.
my pc is just 2 years old
I mean then the 5800x is the best option yes, but do check if its not too much compared to getting a new platform
turning 3 in nov 30 :3
i did, that's why i'm looking for validations if the 5800x is good enough
Depends on your targets too tbh. What is the refresh rate of your monitor and is your FPS target
thats fine
I did UPS (updates per second) testing on Factorio the other day
On both CCUs it reached 284 UPS, on only X3D one it got 454 
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Oh lol, nvm 5800X will be fine. I think any better CPU and your GPU will bottleneck your CPU.
just wanted to make sure you werent using the integrated gpu of the 5600g
shit things happens to me, when i'm planning to buy parts they don't have it when i don't have plans they have it
It's okay man, at least you have a rig. No one will judge you just because you own a 3050.
does it interrupts the main gpu?
i mean does it interfere my rtx with the integrated one?
try looking into aliexpress 5700x3d
not sure if it still exist though
can't
Shouldn't be
i'm asian
that shouldn't stop you. Aliexpress is also asian.
nono I just wanted to make sure you werent using the igpu and replacing it with a cpu that didnt have one xD
rip
bad? no, just potentially not better relative to whatever you compare it to
what about taobao, do they ship to you?
@ashen spindle how's gigabyte these days with mobos
I vowed to never use them again but I might have to
They are all the Same
If you do OC and some other advanced features like idk raid setups or whatever maybe there’s reason to avoid some
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Costs more but it's the only decent first slot GPU matx
Which is kinda needed for the GPU to breathe in the case in thinking about
Oh you mean where it is physically on the board?
Yeah that would avoid it all
However I did also find this case which is a lot bigger but I like it.
If you want mesh then why not Fractal North 
Well case with handle makes sense if you think about moving it around
Well that and helps me pick it up easily to maintain and access the io
Which btw jn a wheelchair is a giant pita lol
Can you not get from this conversation that I want a small case XD
Also the first pic I sent has a mesh version I'll be getting
Big case, set it on desk, very easy access to IO, even on wheelchair 
Id have to reach behind it or pull it out, I can't stand up a little to access it.
And having to pull it out and rotate would be annoying, even so if I got the fractal it would be on the floor like my current
And again it would be a pita for maintenance for me, my current one already weighs a ton lol
It would be nice to be able to put my computer in the livingroom for gaming too maybe, with the handle and all.
Moonlight I just can't get running well on my TV unless I plug my laptop in and tbh Id rather play native on a TV.
Also fractal is overpriced
I am conflicted though, I've always wanted an itx build in general but didn't like the compromises, however this case uses micro atx which is neat, on the other hand I want to not worry about thermals etc 😅
Do I go with what I've wanted for literally 10+ years or do I carry on with a more logical approach?
Hard to say, SFF can be made well cooled, but you spend more if you wanna do it properly, you also don't really have the components to justify that however.
Mid tower and up is cool cause some of them are pretty small still, but fit alot of capability for cooling to never have to worry.
And from all your exchanges it's evident that you are very mindful of budget and don't come to conclusions fast, so you won't be spending big.
I would say take some time to make the decisions and then stick to them.
small builds will always have compromises. you have to accept the fact that the thermals won't be full optimal, and that's okay. with your desk situation, id say go for it
Small builds can perform well with top tier gaming CPU/GPU in them. You're just stuck with very specific part selection and the GPU availability can be a challenge, like if you're only able to fit a Founder's Edition, that becomes problematic.
Are you technically thermally compromised? Yes. Are the thermals actually throttling your performance? Maybe not in any meaningful way.
I'd say if you have the GPU already, then build small around it and enjoy the tiny build.
If you're hunting for a GPU to finish your tiny build, my condolences.
is this enough for r7 5800x?
yes
absolutely, even a Burst Assassin would be
It's still gonna be on the floor
9800x3d and rtx 3080 XD
Pretty cool
Apparently the super cards are canceled?
I just read that too
nice
Ai cards slurping up all the memory chips
It's like there's enough competition to justify new cards
someone should make a new company that also produces gpus
AMD lucked out, 18gb 5070 would have killed any reason to buy a 9070xt
How about a console instead? 
WE LOVE AI
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If they arent cancelled
The price is gonna be a good meme

rest in peace, my dream for 48gb vram setup
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Time for Cals to earn that next maid outfit 
I thought most AI processors use HBM3/HBM3e rather than GDDR?
cauz like, GDDR7 is dog slow compared to HBM3
ai is using fab capacity not any one specific memory type
true, those B200s need to be fabbed somewhere
speaking of, I got to demo a DGX B200 system not too long ago, and man is that thing a beast.
Think all the gddr7 is going to the rtx pro 6000
no you dont fab memory on wafers that could make the dies, its just the capacity they or any ai chip needs
Or at least the remaining supply
nah they dont exist in high volume
the crazy part is that you can get a whole system of multiple DGX B200 systems called the SuperPOD
iirc the SuperPODs have like 72 B200s in one system
yeah, that way you have a lot of spares when one fails 
I mean, the units are literally hotswap when you use Nvidia's full vertical integration.
hello guys do any of you have any wireless mouse recommendations that arent super expensive
whats your budget?
ive heard this is basically an ultralight but for less half the price https://mechkeys.com/products/incott-g23
idk probs up to like 80-90 quid ill have a look at that one tho cheers pal
Is fast charging actually killing the battery?
What's the best way to charge your phone?
Will battery degradation make your phone lag or slow down?
At what point should you consider replacing the battery when its health drops?
Yay or nay
yay
the tldr is it doesn't matter
myth busted
1% battery health difference over 2 years basically negligible
thought that was well known?
not to most people
Same with people thinking wireless charging kills their devices
Just good old myths persisting
well I wouldnt call it a myth, just like it used to be that you should fully drain the battery first or not overcharge it etc. its mostly from the first implementations
Ye
fast charging can still be bad just they usually put it into safe margins
I still remember getting shit luke an rc car as a kid and having to fully charge it once before i used it smh
but those remnants of old tech most people just have it stuck in their minds
Same with old cellphones or old mp3 players
Also addresses the famous 80% thing... basically it ends up being a small improvement but ya know its kinda whatever
2.5%-4% battery health difference
On my S25u 80% is enough to easily get through the day
If it is then use it that way but dont overthink it
Nah. Sometimes I put it to 100 when I expect a long day
The only device i enabled a charge limit on is my switch 2 because it sits in the dock a lot
If i was going on a trip i'd turn it off tho
I'm at 11% now though.. But this is far from a normal day... 🤒
I get about 7-8 hours out of mine, I charge to 80 or 100% just before I sleep and unplug it so it's not charging overnight
I'm quite happy with it since I didn't pay an obscene amount for a phone
I could probably get far more if I didn't force 1440p all the time and 120hz, I disabled dynamic refresh rate as it annoyed me
I'm also at 1440p and 120hz
decisions
Took a flyer on this as an open box deal from Amazon, and I think literally only the outside box was opened because the seal on the anti-static bag was completely in tact. Assuming it works properly (can't test until later this weekend), it'll be a heck of a find for $200. I'm going to hold onto it as a spare GPU and sell it with the rest of my current desktop hardware when Zen 6 comes out, which I'll be pairing with my current RTX 4080 FE.
a
why am I missing VRR now???
re-install graphics driver?
I know AMD drivers like to explode like that
my pc makes this funky noise literally all the time when it’s on, how do i fix it and what is it?
Fan out of balance or a bad bearing maybe? Can you disconnect them one at a time and see if it goes away?
um do i disconnect it like physically or is there an app that i can use on the pc to turn the fan off?
just pull it off the header to locate the one with the bad bearing
That's the easiest way to do it. Just be sure to pull from as close to the motherboard plug as possible instead of from the fan side, and obviously for safety, shut your PC down first.
guys what’s a header i don’t know anything
i’m like 99% sure it’s this one right here
Follow the wire from your fan to the spot on the motherboard where it's plugged in. Disconnect it, turn on your computer again, and see if the noise stops. If not, turn your computer off, reconnect the fan you just unplugged, then go to the next fan. Lather, rinse, repeat. If you unplug your CPU fan (the one that says Intel on it), you can still troubleshoot the noise, but the computer likely won't boot. Just hold the power button to turn it off in that case.
okay i know i sound dumb and stuff but i don’t touch the computer at all and i know nothing about it, im pretty sure its the fan i drew a circle around but i don’t see any wires coming from it
if you can open the other side try looking from there
If you still can't see it then, shut it off, unscrew that fan, and as you pull it a bit away, you will see the cable and can track it
Dusting it out could also help, had occasions where it got rid of sounds for me.
thank you guys you are great
Why are gaming PCs so much easier to shop for than gaming monitors 
1 answer for monitors: oled 
Picking a monitor before we had high refresh rate monitors was horrible
Every display was matte and with numerous compromises
OLED for life
i went oled and now all my friends call me weird caus ei refuse to play anything other than on OLED
miniLED>OLED
hmmmmmmm
Brighter + no burn in + great colors
And the blacks still look great
You get the best of both
- no oled vrr flicker
buttttttttttttt OLEDS have Perfect blacks, infinite contrast, instant response time, better color saturation in dark scenes and ofc they have a slight burn-in risk and some VRR flicker but its nothing crazy especially in higher end models
Your psu must be super budget to have them colored wires
savage
Sure, OLED is great but still doesnt make it easier to find what im looking for. Im a little picky what I want and its hard to find something that checks all the boxes.
It's not easy even for some of the most informed of us, because manufacturers make some obscure ass SKU codes, sometimes differing several times between geographical locations
What do you want? It was easy for me with what I wanted
Looking for a 240Hz+ curved (1500R preference) monitor with 16:9 aspect ratio and 1ms response time or shorter, less than 4k resolution cause I don't wanna give up too much performance and 4k can have issues with scaling, with really good color accuracy
And there were instances of this where the base model had a feature or module you needed, but the region specific one didn't, so you can always get bamboozled that way
Curved 16:9 isn't too common. But I know that each time one is announced people usually moan about it since they hate curve at 16:9
Lmao why
You're locked to getting oled btw if you want that with 1 ms response times. I'm not aware of any curved 16:9 LCDs with very low response times
Because 16:9 (at the typical 32 inch sizes) is not wide enough to justify the curve for most people
They usually say it's distracting or that it forces them to sit very close to the display
My problem is I can see distortion on the edges.
Maybe with the harder 1000R curve? I haven't used 1000R but I know its a tighter curve
Having a curve does kind of give you a narrower ideal viewing spot
I found of pic of my setup, I sit fairly close
That's why 1500R is preferred
Seal and tortle
Lul, ye. I got so many nicknacks sitting under my monitors
Just bought a new PC and I wanna get a new monitor since my graphics card is way better now
And while my current main monitor is very nice, I could def get more with a better one
monitor upgrade before i upgraded my pc 
Originally I was gonna replace the 2nd monitor but most gaming monitors nowadays are better than my main and it would be silly to have my 2nd be better than my 1st
retired my old main monitor to be my 2nd
That what I did before and gonna do again once I replace it
Do you ever dust your desk when there is so much stuff on it or does it make you lazy and avoid doing it
nice to hear, hope you can find something that suits your needs :)
Def makes me more lazy to do it, at least for the top half where all the nicknacks are but I cant let it get too bad cause I'm also staring at it all day and it starts to eventually get in my head and bother me
Hope so too, it would be nice to not have to settle/compromise on something that I would like
So much umbreon 
I have so much Umbreon
& Yoshi
merch
Yoshis sit elsewhere in my room tho, not enough space on the desk
Based picks
Why is choosing a case so difficult
It's like using your name as your password.
You don't say!

major issue with MiniLED: Bloom
MiniLED Bloom is so obvious too, its high key annoying
I would not choose a scented one for that, its so my legs dont turn into chalk
going back to my monitor thing -
I was looking at the 27 Inch Odyssey G6 G65B cause it fits almost everything I want, the thing is it's 1000R which im not sure about cause ive never tried it and it might cause problems with my setup and where I sit but idk, its also VA and not OLED but idk much about that either
i prefer not having a curved display
i feel like at 27in it isnt required
idk if I could fit larger than a 27" having 2 monitors up top, plus idk if I really need it bigger anyways
I hate curved displays with a passion, I could never
Ive come to like my gentle 1500R curve
i can only imagine using it on smth like samsungs g9 49in giga ultrawide
I worry I would feel weird having a main be flat and a 2nd be curved
yeah thatd look kinda weird but ive seen flat + curved setups beofre
lmao
tho the curved is usually vertical
oh hell no
mine is already kinda that but the curved is my main
hmmm
yeah, mine are slightly angled
cable is too short
I bought longer cables
i need to buy one
im told I should use display port when possible
perhaps I should get a different cable if thats true
monitor shopping is the worst tech shopping imo
I mean, just get a DP 2.1 cable and you are chillin
id also have the move my monitor arm and both monitors… eh problem for future me
or i can center it and have it hella close to my face or a massive gap behind my table
monitors be getting expensive sometimes 
$650 for the one im looking at... hoping for a good sale for BF
paid under that for a brand new oled 360hz 
LG 27GR83Q-B
are all OLED monitors now around 500-700 USD? I thought OLEDs(especially good quality ones) would cost around 1000 USD or more
In my country they are all minimum around 1000 USD. Not cheap.
There's a wide spectrum of prices for OLEDs
I was planning to buy a MSI QD-OLED 34 inch 3440X1440 240 Hz monitor
but I am hoping that there's a tandem OLED for 3440X1440 34 inch monitor coming out soon, and hopefully a minimum of 240 Hz.
Tbh, I am hopeful that asus or gigabyte might release it soon. Especially asus since they already made a 27 inch 1440p monitor with 540 Hz. If the market demand for 34 inch monitors are big I think asus will easily release it within 1.5 years.
And oh god asus's new tandem OLED 27 inch(the one reviewed by optimum), their coating is SO GOOD, it makes overhead lighting on OLED seem like a total non-issue. How great is that. Like man I don't want to buy things from asus if possible but if they release something like that for 34 inch, I am 100% buying it.
now if asus could make the same screen but minus the silly silver front border
oh yeah this too i guess
but seriously the screen coating for asus's OLED monitors are unmatched, even if I dislike them as a company.
If within 1-2 years no tandem OLED 34 inch comes out, I would just either buy QD-OLED 34 inch from MSI or mini-LED 34 inch
i am now learned there are multiple kinds of OLED
there's only really 2 types. Tandem OLEDs are an evolution of the more traditional W-OLEDs.
And tbh, don't let the name fool you, both WOLEDs and QD-OLEDs are more similar than different to each other. It's just that QD-OLEDs are enhanced with Quantum dots technology, offering better colour volume and some other colour related advantages, but there's also the issue that most manufacturers(especially asus) pair QD-OLED with some screen coating that makes the screen look pinkish when exposed to harsh front-lighting directly on the screen, rather than bright white.
There are other subtle differences, but OLEDs are still OLEDs, both W-OLED and QD-OLED will offer you GREAT visual experiences.
their monitors quality are killer but everything else is dogshit
I'm looking at Samsung's 27 Inch Odyssey OLED G6 G61SD
price and naming is especially horrendous
and tl;dr, tandem OLED is basically just two layers of OLED stacked together, improving brightness, longetivity in terms of OLED burn-ins(making them practically non-existent) and greater colour volume and so on. Tandem OLED screens can reach 330+ nits in terms of brightness(full screen), compared to 250-270 nits from non-tandem OLEDs.
I use the PG27UCDM, Asus
Tbh, it depends, asus is one of the few companies still trying to innovate, I can respect them for that, except for the pricing being utterly atrocious.
interesting, though I dont think I would ever need such brightness
Like, they are the first one to make a split HE keyboard
I think the jump from 270 to 330 is VERY important for people like me who uses overhead lighting, because my light source is directly above me(on my house celling).
wacky
yeah, I could see that being a help. I live in a batcave myself so I would just burn my retina's out with such brightness
And also their eGPU docks like the XG mobile, and even their upcoming thunderbolt 5 open eGPU dock that actually has the portability that makes sense(although no PSU included), still better than the stupid razer chroma V2 dock from razer, like oh boy that eGPU dock is dogwater in terms of design because it defeats the purpose of portability.
Again, asus charges a butt-ton of money for their products, I think it's ridiculous, but at least they do make innovative products(somewhat). So I can respect them for this specific thing.
they get the ball rollin
Like, I don't see MSI doing anything like that, maybe only razer but still other than a oversized non-portable eGPU dock and thunderbolt 5 docks(which aren't that impressive IMO), I really don't see many other companies coming up with new products.
Except lenovo who does some fancy stuff like 3D monitor for their legion 9i, which is pretty darn cool IMO.
And also I guess you can say like asus makes other innovative stuff like their RTX 5090 limited edition with custom BIOs for 800 W of power draw(designed to draw power from both the 12-volt HIGH FAILURE connector + their BTF connector), which is pretty innovative too IMO.
that custom bios is only special if we exclude the exclusive 1000w version
Then you have china with 2001w 5090d vbios
exclude or include?
only possible on galax HOF
I didn't know this was a thing lol
oh wells, but it's still pretty cool regardless.
I feel like MSI is also just making me go "WTF" in terms of their product quality. So seriously, as much as I want to support other companies because I don't like asus's customer support(I never experience it myself before) but MSI cannot even make a competitive high-end gaming laptop properly.
Like brother, how can you market your cooler having the industry's biggest vapour chamber, slap on the highest price tag, and the end product has poor performance because of inadequate cooling, no g-sync, the monitor sucks because it's 4k 120 Hz only(I mean I know 4k 240 Hz mini-led doesn't exist), and no advanced optimus? Not to say asus makes much better 18 gaming laptop, but man it's a tough pill to swallow lol
34 inches is crazy
not really?
nah like i mean it shifts the purpose
I mean many people are using 32 inches monitor too(I think majority uses 27 inch)? Also got people use 45 inches 32:9 aspect ratio(I won't go down this route, too hard for me to see/use tbh).
shifts what purpose
like i would never tell you what to do so dont take it like that but
just buy a TV at that point
o_0
Would you say that to people who uses 32 inches monitor then?
the thing is 34 inches monitor is an ultrawide 1440p monitor, so people buy it not just for the size but also the immersive experience, especially for games like cyberpunk and F1 25 or other games that supports it.
this is true
wait u right
but TV screens are like 50+ inches lol, the size is still A LOT bigger than 34 inches
- like, TV don't have high refresh rate
oh no yeah totally
- I doubt you would want to place a TV on top of your desk, and spinning your head around just to look at the whole thing, imagine the neck strain lol
but what i mean is bigger screens are more for like watching shows nad stuff and cinematic
so might as well go all out
Yeah but I'm talking about using 34 inches monitor gaming and everyday task tho?
of course I use it for netflix too
It's not a bad thing per se, it's a bit small but still plenty big and good for people who has small desk
24.5 is like for professional gamers
Hello Guys im new to wooting, is it possible to make a pickup macro? Like If i hold E then it will macro the button E
besides that it doesnt have a good use becuase you dont need that extra milisecond of less eye movemnet
so i wouldnt reccomend it to someoene else
but like, you yourself said it, TVs aren't meant for on desk setups and gaming/close screen uses, so I kind of don't understand why you would suggest people buying 34 inch monitors to get a TV lol
wait you dont use monitor stands
bro you are missing out
its the most beautiful thing ever
i almost cried when i got mine
im joking*
no but even if I use monitor stands why would I use 50+ inches TV? And no I'm not a monitor user in general because I'm on laptop lol
no i wasnt
in a non rude way i said who would ever propose that a monitor stand could hold a tv
it was obviously meant as a separate question not pertaining to the discussion earlier in the conversation
It's about weight and mounting options.
j
The ai bit is a bit dumb
Went from 27" 240hz 1440p oled to 24.5" 400hz 1080p tn with dyac. Miss the overall clarity of the oled, but dyac makes tracking while spraying a breeze.
My first PC is finished
Enjoy!
anyone got any gaming headsets that are good in basically everything, like noise isollation, sound quality, comfort etc reccs? i was thinking of the new blackshark v3 pro
Honestly gaming headsets are so meh
especially wireless ones
sound quality
tbh i just saw how good iems are
they have everythign i want
I would recommend a good pair of headphones and a separate mic
yeah i was thinkign that too
i do already have a hyperx quadcast
Beyer dynamic mmx200
I feel like Linux devs are choosing the worst way to do things possible
I just wanted to play Android game on PC
I had to install Waydroid, integrate it into system, install libraries because it's x86_64 and doesn't recognize ARM and now I have to play with evdev, because they didn't bother to include keyboard to touch mapper 
I’m getting the kiwi ears astrals on Black Friday
Hoping they drop to somewhere around 250
Linux devs arguing over which flavour of autism is correct meanwhile Microsoft and Apple are mandating it. 
they look like they're really nice, quite expensive tho
It’s a recommendation from @misty scaffold and outclasses other iems a little above its price range
hd560s or if you want more comfort hd490 pro. The latter is an upgrade to hd560s in every way but cost $250 more. If you want something good. IEM wise, Kiwi Ears Astral is a good pick for $200.
IEM is great for sound quality and noise isolation, so maybe go with that.
IMO, they are one of the best sets in its price range
not sure about that when crinear Reference about to come out.
quality is on par with $300-400 sets at $260 cant really complain about
"one of"
oh yeah, lmao
best is highly subjective
for $150 I would go for supermix 4 if you okay to EQ. It has a really nice separation and detail, the only bad thing it has for me is the tuning.
Is there a good local media player for iPhone?
yes
You're meh
There's good wireless gaming headsets out there
Like the fractal scape
Or the maxwells
Vlc
tysm for the reccs, i was looking at the hd 560s and they look like an amazing option, though they do lack noise isolation
should i get Asus XG27AQWMG or ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG Gen2 (XG27AQDMGR)
I too want the same kind of headphone but with noise isolation. I have a feeling Crinear Reference and 7hz x Crin Divine is going to be similar to it somewhat.
im switching to iems
cant stand headsets anymore
400 cad

270 us
still completely overpriced xd
yesh
but maybe the world is healing again

nah
nah they just reach the point where no one was willing to buy it at that price
they dont need to sell
xD
ai will buy it
they won't be buying it from amazon, they will be buying b2b
iems drove me insane because of uneven seal/ear pressure
Dette
what is the differences between lekker tikken and the lekker v2 60
My left ear is apparently incompatible with any earbuds I have ever tried. Doesn't stay in for more than 10 seconds. Th technology is unusable to me
Im trying to decided what headphones I should even get
I dont want one with a mic on it
Sennheiser HD560S + EQ beats 99,99% of headphones in existence
most iems fit pretty poorly for me but not that bad
Some sculpted iems fit well and most tws I’ve tried too
They are more expensive and worse-sounding stock to me
I'd EQ both of course, but the 560S is a lot cheaper
I just want something to upgrade from the the original hyper x cloud headphones 🤣
Ive had them for long enough
so the 560s are cheaper and sound better?
Yes imo
If you won't EQ then I wouldn't buy them. You'd probably find the low amount of bass disappointing. But it can be fixed and perfected easily with EQ
The only problem I have with eq is I’ve lowkey never done it
It's easy. You just download equaliser APO and the Peace plugin. Peace now lets you automatically load Oratory1990's presets into it so with one press you can use his Harman EQ and personalise it from there if you wish to
wow
@distant tapir actually perfect timing they have one pair left at my nearest best buy
i can get them today
Go get it and see if you like it with EQ
buy third party ear tips
nah imma just use fiio ft1
its 80 dollars off too
its like 199 instead of 280
Lol I've seen these comments
Nothing really fucked up
I feel bad that I encouraged my sister to get one
It comes with Facebook, insta and Twitter preinstalled I think, and Glimpse on the lock screen
lets say i have a 280hz monitor, i can easily run that fps but i cap it at 240fps ingame since its way more stable and you will most likely never notice the difference between 240 and 280, is that a good idea?
but keep the monitor hz on 280 for out of game activities?
its a new monitor that is coming out so i assume it will support vrr
yeah no need to change it in windows
should i also enable g sync compatibility in the nvidia configuration screen?
that is VRR yes
If you have gsync monitor, just enable gsync on monitor and pc, along with vsync (in nvidia control panel or nvidia app only...not in game), and low latency on ultra. It has been tested by numerous benchmarkers and display snobs (IE Blur Busters) to deliver the smoothest and lowest latency experience.
alright so keep vsync ingame off?
and on in the control panel
yeah
got it
the control panel setting will override it. if you enable in both, itll cause a bunch of latency and stuttering
if you don't have gsync though, don't follow any of those instructions.
uh, for newer games in dx12/win11 you want to use the ingame vsync not the nvcp one
i mainly play solo games and then stuff like fortnite
wait do i turn on vsync for game specific in the nvcp
just set it as on in general as a override that makes it easier
fair
and enable reflex in games that have it, fortnite probably does
do you mean low latency reflex ?
nvidia reflex in ingame settings for games that support it
whatever they call it in the settings idk
yea they do call it there
thats an ai answer thats not saying anything
but yes its going to be called something like that
doesn't matter. if you do it in nvcp it overrides application setting (to ensure you have it for applications that don't have the setting). but if you enable in both it can cause some weird bugs.
blurbusters does a decent explanation
so just put it on for everything in nvcp and disable it in all games
yes thats the easiest and will work
use on if gpu is your bottleneck or on+boost if your cpu is your bottleneck
also an additional question, i will have a 280hz main 1440p oled monitor a 144hz 1080p ips side monitor and 1 75hz 1080p ips side monitor, do i cap both side monitors to 60hz since its literally only used for browsing, discord and music?
uhhhh 9800x3d and msi 5070ti gaming trio
no clue whats the bottleneck
up to you
it doesnt impact anything if i have 3 different hz performance wise?
well iirc the special K dev talked about in win11/dx12 things have changed so the ingame one technically is superior but its not like it matters much
yea its prob something where the numbers are superior but in reality 99% of ppl wont notice
first I'm hearing about it
thats something you need to try out, because it can be if the extra monitors are not a multiple of the others that you either need to set it to the same or like 1/2 of the others etc.
fair, ill just cap both at 60 to be safe, i only use them for discord and music anyway
don't think I'm in the specialK discord or remember where it was posted so cant search for it atm
@thick ermine which is the bottleneck btw
there is https://wiki.special-k.info/Presentation_Model which explains what changed by going with the flip presentation but dont think this talks about sync settings
For when you wonder why things are the way they are...
if you're running applications that are tasking your hardware to max out performance of the monitors it can. But like if you are running discord on one its not going to actually run at max refresh rate
well it's not about the apps running hard, its if you use something like discord or a browser with hardware acceleration on monitors with different refresh, that could cause stutters
depends on the game. hard to run games, the gpu. easier to run, cpu
i see, so something like fn or mc its cpu and games like GOW or sekiro, elden ring its gpu
so for fn its on+boost since cpu is the bottleneck
I personally keep hw acceleration off because I'm not going to sacrifice game performance for a youtube video that's running on my second monitor. Will also typically ruin the performance of the video at the same time.
I mean thats not how that works, hw acceleration means it uses the decoders in your gpu its not using the hardware the games are using
unless your gpu is like super in its power limit I guess maybe that could draw some power away
@ashen spindle ok so I went through my settings because maybe I'm not communicating it right. In display settings I've got the hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling on but in my browser I've got graphics acceleration disabled. When I'm playing a game and want a video or movie to stream in the background on my second monitor, the quality of the streamed video is bad when acceleration is enabled in the browser.
HAGS in windows is something else yes
pretty much. when in doubt, on+boost won't hurt
if the browser settings makes it look worse that means either a driver or browser setting seems to be broken
nah dude
yes its a commonly known issue that people run into
alright so TLDR: keep monitor hz at 280, cap to 240fps ingame, turn on vsync and gsync in nvcp, turn off vsync in games, set both side monitors to 60hz, and put the reflex low latency mode on boost+on
got it
don't worry about capping fps. vsync will cap your fps anyways
obv if you dont get a benefit the simplest way is to not enable it, but usually changing the rendering setting in chrome flags or w/e browser or a driver change fixes that and it no longer looks blurry or worse
ahhh so just leave fps in games uncapped?
even if its in games like GOW where i wanna run max graphics and it def wont hit 280?
vsync is to keep the fps in your monitors refresh rate so you dont go above VRR range
yeah VRR takes care of that
unless you drop so low its out of VRR range but thats usually like <30fps or so
unless they have a setting to cap fps for menus (I lower that so its not running full throttle in menus)
but wouldnt that make ur gpu run at max performance causing stutters?
pretty sure fn lobby is capped at 120 always
no you want your gpu to run at max, thats what you have it for, let the hardware work 
Fair so i do those settings in nvcp and never cap fps in games?
prob. most games either have a built in cap or selection when you select frame limits
You can test it, but Vsync on it's own shouldn't cap FPS.
It's used in conjuction with Gsync to prevent tearing in ALL instances (sort of a frametime compensator).
You would wanna use in prio Ingame cap>RTSS cap.
if there's a frame cap setting for menus, it'll often require an in-game cap as well...if that's the case just set that to your monitor's refresh rate or higher
so you wouldnt cap it at 240 if monitor is 280?
vsync caps fps dude
nah
so fn has a ingame cap of 240 then 360, you would turn on vsync, gsync and low latency and put the cap on 360 then?
why not 240 tho?
you dont need to set any cap, vsync+vrr takes care of that
the old method was something like -15% of your monitor's refresh rate (but at least 3fps) to ensure vsync wouldn't double buffer with gsync but its a non-issue now afaik
It still overshoots, thats why it's recommended to cap.
yea why would i let my gpu and cpu run at max performance getting 500+fps when i only need 280 (240 for fn)
There are some menus that go far higher even, zero reason to let it.
if you're getting 500+fps your settings aren't right
well no, its performance mode, i think in those settings the game looks the best anyway
i dont need super smooth leafs and trees or clouds in fn, i dont look in detail to it
in single player story games and stuff like mc, sure
cs2 devs and nvidia say you want to to vsync+ VRR+reflex because that takes care of preventing overshooting the refresh rate but you still get people saying the old method of setting lower fps caps is the way to go..
you're not going to get 500fps if you set gsync, vsync, and low latency modes properly
@twilit schooner from here whats next
I don't know how CS2 in specific behaves, but from experience the overshoot happens without a proper cap in other titles.
so if i set it up properly and leave fps uncapped it will max out at 280fps ingame?
a few fps below but yes
Also RTSS now has Reflex implementation instead of Async, it's been fairly consistent.
like with the settings enabled, it automatically caps my 120hz monitor at 117fps and my 240hz monitor at like 235fps
okay so ur gpu/cpu wont be ''overworking'' on useless frames if u setup up the nvcp properly
wonder how much latency that adds. Even though its using reflex settings for the limiter, it's still technically 3rd party implementation with rtss
exactly 1 frame of input lag, but only if compared to ingame limiters.
Hence the priority Ingame cap > RTSS cap
Atleast thats what it should be, i'm not sure since the Reflex implement if it lowered at all (doubt).
But ingame caps aren't always available and RTSS is a very handy tool anyways, closest to no additional latency possible and you can use your custom or premade OSDs
On games where i have ingame cap, i disable RTSS handling it obviously
Exactly 1 frame of input lag? That's hardly scientific since 1 frame can vary wildly
Then spend some time to read about it so it meets your standards, this is how it was explained.
source?
so this should be set to ''on'' instead of ''use the 3d-settings''?
well yeah but if you set a limiter its a set rate so its always the frame length you set it to as added input delay
wait couldn't i set a fps cap globally in nvcp???
i found this
why are we still on fps caps
idk i just thought of it
and found that thread
ignore it, in games like counterstrike or fortnite where you want best latency you reflex which has a built in frame cap anyway
alright
also for gsync, i run games in fullscreen borderless for easy alt tabs, i should turn on the second one right (the one thats turned on)
top one is for ONLY fullscreen i think
im not sure if with the new way to render fullscreen that is still needed but yes that definitely covers it
do the bottom one so it'll optimize for both windowed and fullscreen
yea i turned on vsync and gsync, unlimited fps but it doesnt go over refresh rate and is way more stable
nice
I didn't see what game or games you were looking this info for, but in case it's competitive, if the absolute lowest latency was the actual priority, consider uncapped without all the above, as that would still be king.
Ofcourse if tearing is something that bothers you, the sacrifice have to be made.
consider uncapped without all the above, as that would still be king
no its not thats why cs devs even put a popup into the game that says vsync+vrr+reflex is the best
this
I have no idea about any of this, not sure why I got pinged
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