🔌│tech

[nimble arch]

I would like to see AMD actually make FSR4 available for older GPU generations officially.

[bright briar]

especially the price too

[umbral heron]

food

[unkempt lake]

The unofficial dll works quite nicely

I use it xd

[bright briar]

thats a steal compared what we had to pay for 30 series gpu cards 😭

[frozen drift]

they can't do it properly as the older hardware lacked dedicated AI/tensor cores.

[pale sigil]

Not really but it's close that's for sure

[frozen drift]

but uh, you can use frame generation from interpolating data?

[unkempt lake]

The int 8 version is nice tho

[unkempt lake]

It is literally just as good nowadays

[frozen drift]

int 8?

[unkempt lake]

There's an unofficial conversion of fsr4 that works on older gpus

Using int8

[nimble arch]

FSR4 on PS5 Pro will be interesting.

[unkempt lake]

Its based on a leaked dll

[lunar elm]

i highly doubt you can tell the diff at quality presets for both

the real difference is that DLSS4 scales better with less pixel data

[unkempt lake]

Literally can't tell for fsr4

The transformer model does scale better at lower res but its so dumb that shit needs ti be enabled manually

[pale sigil]

I need to check case compatibility real quick

[unkempt lake]

At 1440p and up its indistinguishable

[lunar elm]

If we were to compare both at lower presets such as balanced and performance, DLSS4 will come out on top

[unkempt lake]

At like 1080p yeah

And if set to the transformer model

[lunar elm]

4K DLSS4 performance internal render at 1080p looks hella good since it has the data

[unkempt lake]

Which it doesnt do by default

its so dumb

why not have transformer be the default on nvidia

[pale sigil]

I just don't know, I'm about to spend a fuck ton on a CPU/mobo and case etc

[lunar elm]

still applies to 1440p, not much but I noticed FSR4 had some issues on Balanced on a still image

[pale sigil]

Do I need it?

[lunar elm]

comparing it to native ofc

[unkempt lake]

your 3080 is fine you do not need it

xD

Its a want not a need

Esp with how little you play

[lunar elm]

a 3080 is still within the 4070, with proper overclocking I believe you can get it between 4070 and 4070S/5070 perf

[pale sigil]

Ye no I don't OC

Lol

If I sold my 3080 that's a decent chunk

[unkempt lake]

You could always sell your 3080

For like... 225gbp

[pale sigil]

No lol

They sell for 280-300

If I want a quick sale sure

[bright briar]

me dropping 2.5k just to sell it for 300-400 cad

[pale sigil]

Have you ever owned a car

Lol

[bright briar]

yes

[pale sigil]

There ya go 🤣

[bright briar]

car gets me to places the gpu doesnt

[nimble arch]

Me paying £1600 for a 4090 FE in June 2023 and they, checks notes, sell used for £1550-1700 currently.

[pale sigil]

GPU takes you to new worlds

It's annoying because £473.74 is actually an insanely good price here

[bright briar]

ahh yes the new worlds that barely run properly and turn my pc rig into an oven in the big 2025

[pale sigil]

The cheapest I can find is £560

ATM in the UK

Quite a big difference

[lunar elm]

“But a 5090 costs the price of a used car!”

Which varies from country to country. 5090 here in SG is like 1/10th of a car and thats not including the fucking COE thats only 10 years

[bright briar]

i was like you pumpkin exe. 180 cad ram i should wait for a sale. Not even two weeks later its 300 cad now

[pale sigil]

I already made that mistake but it's different

[bright briar]

how

[pale sigil]

I'm not waiting, I'm debating on needing it.

I'm not expecting it to get to this price again or anytime soon lol

[covert steppe]

I'm waiting till ces 2026 before I buy my cpu and gpu lmao

I have the rest on order already haha

[pale sigil]

Because dashi is right I don't even really play much, rn it's destiny 2 (not really anymore) and BF6 later, rivals I stopped because of my CPU which I'm upgrading.

The most demanding game I can think of I want to play soon is Jedi Survivor which would definitely benefit from a new GPU

[covert steppe]

I haven't played D2 in a solid few months, used to play that game everyday😭

[tribal kelp]

I sold my well used 4090 FE for exactly what I paid for it. I probably could have gotten more, but didn't care to be bothered.

It's absurd...

[lunar elm]

next up researchers have found ways to leverage on AMD’s extra cache for AI

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[pale sigil]

After lightfall I lost all my motivation and I didn't even like the final shape

I thought the story was stupid

[covert steppe]

Lowkey that's what it literally is, I keep hearing the rumors of a 9950x3d2 or else I'd just buy the normal 9950x3d

[pale sigil]

If it wasn't Amazon US I would get the GPU anyway and just decide.

[covert steppe]

I played it just so I could have the satisfaction of finishing the story😭

[pale sigil]

Because I can return

[covert steppe]

The raid was good though

[pale sigil]

Same but I got 0 satisfaction

[ashen spindle]

do not wait for the 9950x3d2 or whatever for gaming

[pale sigil]

I didn't even like the raid much tbh

[ashen spindle]

even if true in gaming you gain 0% fps from it

[covert steppe]

Yeah but I also use it for work

[pale sigil]

Quin, can you gift me that 9070

[covert steppe]

That's why I'm doing the 9950 vs a 9800

[ashen spindle]

why would you consider a gpu thats barely any better

[pale sigil]

My mentality ATM is I get the 9800x3d I'm sorted for my next GPU whether it's this gen or next gen

The value for this gen is so shocking outside of the 9070xt I don't have much faith in next gen either.

[lunar elm]

dont get the 9800x3d if you care about budget- 7800x3d instead

[pale sigil]

I'm already ahead of you on that

[tribal kelp]

7800x3d and 9800x3d are the gaming answers right now.

The only reason to even remotely consider a 9950x3d2 (that doesn't exist yet) is if you absolutely have to do production work for profit on a PC that you also game with.

[umbral heron]

Yeah, performance difference is not that big
The only big difference is that cache is now closer to PCB, so easier to cool 9xxx

[pale sigil]

I'm getting it from Ali, 9800x3d is the aim of they are decent prices like a little ago.

If not I'll go with 7800x3d

[tribal kelp]

But in reality, production work belongs on an epyc.

And gaming belongs on _800 x3d

[halcyon moss]

Huge gamble?

[pale sigil]

To be clear I can easily afford it right now, it's more if it's worth it for me.

[pale sigil]

Not really

Loads of people buy them and they are legit, the risk is warranty.

[halcyon moss]

What about warranty

[pale sigil]

However I'm saving enough that the risk is worth it.

[unkempt lake]

there is no warranty its a tray cpu

[umbral heron]

Burning 9800x3d

[unkempt lake]

assrock

[lunar elm]

unless you have an assrock board you dont rly need to worry, CPUs should last a long time.
Tray CPUs dont even have warranty be it from elsewhere or locally

[pale sigil]

Last time I checked I could get one for £275

So like, even if it dies in 2 or 3 years it was still worth it imo

And I don't OC, although undervolting did look tempting

[halcyon moss]

What does being a tray cpu having to do with warranty

[unkempt lake]

Tray cpus are bought in bulk for aibs and they are supposed to do the support, amd does not honor the warranty on them

[umbral heron]

Tray CPU has 3 months "startup" warranty
Box CPU has 2 years

At least in EU

[unkempt lake]

And well... technically they're not supposed to be resold on aliexpress

[halcyon moss]

Laughs in european

[unkempt lake]

As if that matters

XD

It's a gray market good

You being european does not matter

[halcyon moss]

If you buy from Ali, yes it's your own fault

[pale sigil]

Being in EU means Jack shit

With tray CPUs

[halcyon moss]

If I buy in eu, I have good warranty

[pale sigil]

No.

Normal people aren't supposed to be able to buy them directly

[unkempt lake]

But you also pay way more

[umbral heron]

3 months
It's an OEM purchase, not consumer purchase

[halcyon moss]

Doesn't matter, the seller is responsible

[pale sigil]

No

[unkempt lake]

Lmao

[pale sigil]

The 2 year warranty is a manufacture warranty

The CPU is invalid

If you buy a tray CPU off a store

[halcyon moss]

If as a consumer, I buy at a store a cpu, I have warranty

[unkempt lake]

It's basically the same as if i i sell you a stolen cpu for cash in an alley

[unkempt lake]

Aliexpress is like ebay

[tribal kelp]

I would not buy any high dollar item from AliExpress.

[nimble arch]

I've considered cashing in my 4090 FE, potentially for a small profit, and then using that to a fund a 1440p 280Hz tandem OLED + 9070 XT.

[tribal kelp]

But you do you.

[pale sigil]

He isn't on about AliExpress

[halcyon moss]

OK now we're talking about Ali again

[umbral heron]

Yes
But you won't buy tray CPU from the store
Just from reseller

[halcyon moss]

I'm not

[pale sigil]

I've spent easily over 2000

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/342333/onexplayer-officially-reveals-water-cooled-amd-strix-halo-powered-onexfly-apex-gaming-handheld

[tribal kelp]

I was able to get 5090 FE at MSRP with no sales tax and $5 air shipping, so selling the 4099 FE at that point made sense.

[pale sigil]

This is what I'm trying to explain too

[tribal kelp]

If they money isn't the issue, then why are you sourcing an OEM tray CPU from AliExpress?

I'm so confused.

[pale sigil]

As I said it's more about being worth it for me

[tribal kelp]

...

[halcyon moss]

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/zoeken/?keyword=Amd+ryzen+tray

[tribal kelp]

Just buy it retail and move on?

[unkempt lake]

It's enough of a saving that you can justify the gamble

[pale sigil]

£410 vs 275

Like

My dude

[tribal kelp]

Agreed, if he's on a tight budget. But he's saying money is no issue.

[pale sigil]

That's... No

Again it's about worth

[tribal kelp]

410 for guaranteed success or support if things go wrong.

275 for maybe works and SOL if not.

You do you.

[unkempt lake]

Technically you can return it within 30 days on ali

[pale sigil]

I'm not spending 410 on a CPU, not even 350 on a 7800X3D

[unkempt lake]

But afterwards youre sol

[pale sigil]

AliExpress has buyer protection, I'm not stupid.

So does PayPal.

And again literally thousands of people have done this.

[tribal kelp]

I'm sure that's a great return process and experience...

I think I'd pay 135 just to not have to deal with that. 😂

[umbral heron]

Exactly - and as you can see warranty varies from store to store, some give 3 months, some give 12 months
But it's not consistent 24 months across all stores like with box version

[pale sigil]

They send me a QR code and I go to my post office.

That's it

It's not the old wild West days

[tribal kelp]

So then why ask here? Seems like you know what you want.

[pale sigil]

What

[steady sail]

[pale sigil]

The conversation was about 9070xt and I said I was planning on getting a 9800x3d

Who asked anything

[halcyon moss]

Where do you find that?

Anyway. There's stated warranty and expected warranty.

[umbral heron]

Just clicked though several stores, for example

And looking at Amazon reviews for tray I'm not sure if there even is any

[ashen spindle]

you can easily buy tray at like mindfactory and its covered by warranty like anything else

doesnt matter what the store says

[umbral heron]

Yeah, but that's store's warranty, not manufacturer's

[ashen spindle]

in the EU its still legally having a 2 year warranty

[umbral heron]

[reef patrol]

Indeed. Manufacturer warranties be damned. Here it's the sellers responsibility

[ashen spindle]

its sold as a regular product to a customer

[pale sigil]

GPU price fixed itself

But it's still cheap for me at cart/checkout

[ashen spindle]

I guess if you buy from a store that dies in the next 2 years a tray cpu might be annoying to deal with regarding warranty

[steady sail]

i love the prices in Hungary

i checked a few other stores as well, they are literally the same +-10-20 euro change overall

[tribal kelp]

This makes so much more sense.

5-10% for oem vs retail seems about right

[pale sigil]

Idk what to do lmao

[halcyon moss]

It used to be the case that for some weird reason tray was more expensive than boxed

[tribal kelp]

33% delta seemed wild.

[unkempt lake]

Good luck getting a warranty from an aliexpress seller

If you buy something on ebay do you expect to claim warranty from the ebay seller xd

[ashen spindle]

mansen is talking about buyin tray from an eu retailer

[unkempt lake]

Oh

[ashen spindle]

and yes you can claim warranty on ebay as well

[unkempt lake]

Nah

[ashen spindle]

yes

warranty transfers if you buy it second hand

[unkempt lake]

It's a used good sold as is

[ashen spindle]

and if its broken instantly you can reclaim money very easily with ebay chargebacks

[unkempt lake]

True you could have the warranty transfer over but also we're assuming that the good comes from a legit source

If i sell you a backdoored tray cpu on ebay... can't really transfer that

And a lot of tray cpus are backdoored or come fron illegitimate sources

[reef patrol]

What Quin said. I restrict my answers to within the EU. I'd never purchase anything that expensive outside of 😄

[unkempt lake]

I have never seen tray cpus sold big an actual proper seller here always ebay or aliexpress

[tribal kelp]

It is always interesting to me to hear the perspective of folks who live under different regulatory environments when they shop.

The assertion that EU warranty laws are going to save a customer in a component failure warranty situation from an AliExpress purchase is certainly not something I expected to ever hear.

[ashen spindle]

nobody has said eu laws cover alie purchases though?

we're talking about tray cpus at an eu retailer

[tribal kelp]

Oh, that assertion was made a while back.

[unkempt lake]

It's what we were dicussion originally then the convo got shifted

[reef patrol]

It has occured. Though I saw it more often back in the days than more recent - And it's been quite common for PC builders.

[ashen spindle]

the argument was unlike from aliE you can still get warranty from tray cpus if the seller is in the eu no?

[tribal kelp]

I may have misunderstood.

[unkempt lake]

No at first drakonen was trying to claim he'd be protected on ali by eu laws

[ashen spindle]

pleasent said hes not expecting ali cpu to have warranty, tray cpus were brought up and people argued if those have warranty or not

[unkempt lake]

Then it shifted to i could just buy it from an eu retailer

[ashen spindle]

literally not what he said?

[unkempt lake]

And then everyone got confused because some of us were still on the original discussion

[tribal kelp]

An EU retailer, even selling a tray CPU, I would expect to be following EU laws and warranting the product, and pricing accordingly, hence the only 5-10% delta in EU retail vs EU tray cost for a given CPU.

This made sense to me.

[halcyon moss]

Never made that assertion

[unkempt lake]

Well then maybe it's just a big misunderstanding idk

I thought we were still talking about ali

So was shadow

I did go afk for a bit so

XD

[tribal kelp]

I was very confused by the AliExpress conversation though, where someone seemed to be answering that EU law still applied there. And I'm like, "but how?"

Yeah, I must have misunderstood.

[halcyon moss]

It was a confusing conversation

[tribal kelp]

It really was.

So many goalposts were shifted I forgot what race we were in.

[unkempt lake]

but ok now we're all on the same page

Ali poopy no warranty
Eu tray seller should go by eu rules

[tribal kelp]

Makes sense to me.

Ali is like, 'you get what you get, charge back the seller if it's broke..glhf"

[frozen ingot]

ali has always given me refunds

[pale sigil]

Same and returns are very easy

[unkempt lake]

If it's broken at arrival then you're fine

[pale sigil]

At least in the UK

[unkempt lake]

It's more if it breaks like 6 months down the line that you're fucked

[frozen ingot]

even when it later showed to be my own mistakes

[pale sigil]

This took like 5 days for delivery too, UK Ali is great.

[frozen ingot]

I don't know if I'd buy things like cpus from their storefront though

[tribal kelp]

I wouldn't.

[unkempt lake]

I bought a cheap phone controller for like 25$ and the trigger broke in shipping and i managed to get a refund and i got told to keep the thing

[frozen ingot]

I buy a lot of electronics and gadgets from there but its usually cheaper stuff and its fine for most part

[tribal kelp]

In the USA, AliExpress is a total gamble. You might get what want and you might get baited.

[unkempt lake]

I just wanted to test a cheap phone controller to see if i wanted to spend more money on a proper one

[tribal kelp]

And stores with good reputations sometimes turn out to be total scams that were brushing their rep.

[gusty kiln]

@fickle ore nokia 👀 👀 👀

[unkempt lake]

Besides that ali is good for spare parts

[tribal kelp]

Even Amazon has turned into a disaster in that regard.

[unkempt lake]

Like i bought some nintendo switch screws because i stripped some while repairing a switch

And some other random spare parts for stuff

[umbral heron]

NOKIA JOINS AI NVIDIA CIRCLEJERK

[tribal kelp]

AI is like the new .com bubble.

Can't wait to see the collapse.

[unkempt lake]

A ds shell to fix an old ds for my brother that was falling apart

For stuff like that ali is fine

[tribal kelp]

I wonder how much money laundering is going on in AI stuff. Probably a ton.

[ashen spindle]

why launder if you can just print it

[ashen spindle]

did you see how amd and oracle didnt move one bit after it was released that the DoE gets two new super computers? in the past that would've been the biggest orders ever for amd

[umbral heron]

With current US administration you don't have to hide with money laundering
Just pay mafia boss a cut and you'll pardoned no matter you do

[fickle ore]

It was long time coming tbh

After infinera buy

[umbral heron]

But yeah, AI bubble burst will be funny
I'm gonna make myself a house out of A100s

[fickle ore]

Doubt that'll happen soon

Demand is very high into 2030's

[nimble arch]

More like they'll get a bailout at tax payer expense

[fickle ore]

Someone needs to do the networking stuff for AI data centers

[umbral heron]

Demand sure is big
Barely any profits though
And not enough use cases

[steady sail]

but my AI gooning

[fickle ore]

You think Google and Meta aren't profitting from search optimization with AI?

[umbral heron]

Nope
Sure they make billions of revenue
But none of the profits

[fickle ore]

U had NOK? ggs 😄

[fickle ore]

suuuuuuuure man

[steady sail]

even with how one of the AI company get supported by nvidia, nvidia gonna earn more

[umbral heron]

Whole AI craze still rides on speculation
OpenAI themselves are hanging on solely due to investments, they make no profits at all
The bubble will burst, a lot of companies will go under, but who will be left will have actual use for AI
Oh, and MS, Google and Meta don't really care - they'll be bailed out regardless, so potato potato

[fickle ore]

Google and Meta are prob the only ones atm truly profiting off it

But theyre spending all the profits too

[reef patrol]

Ah yes. My favourite channel. LinusCatTips

[unkempt lake]

Nice bed frame

Looks... familiar

[pale sigil]

Indeed

[steady sail]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694103

[gusty kiln]

Priced in already

But it has been creeping up the past few weeks

[gusty kiln]

I thought you did as well

[fickle ore]

Yee some

[alpine patio]

@umbral heron is this fine?

price wise

cos shipping under $150 is $25 for just accessories (hot end)

which is excluded from the machine's shipping fee

[covert steppe]

Which printer you getting?

[alpine patio]

a1

[alpine patio]

actually ill just start with petg lol

[covert steppe]

Petg will be much more annoying to work with, likes to be in a closed environment

Id suggest get one of each kind of filament and just mess around

Pla is a lot less hotter temperature to print with and tends to be more flexible than abs. Petg is relatively the same flexibility wise, but it's annoying to print with

[whole bramble]

get a pla roll or 2 and ifw petg

pla is fine for 90% of csses and i douvt youll run into the remaining 19%

you dont need that much filament unless you want the colors for smth

[alpine patio]

mostly i want to print functional parts

and i live in a rather hot climate

ik petg has issues but the petg hf seems fine after calibration

[alpine patio]

i dont wanna pay shipping lol

its for free shipping

[whole bramble]

try to find a more locl supplier

[alpine patio]

still will have shipping

cost hotends i need to buy there

[whole bramble]

amazon usually gets me feee shipoibg

[alpine patio]

its like 3-4x price here

even amazon

[whole bramble]

where do you love

[alpine patio]

😳

singapore

[whole bramble]

also note: diff colors tend to have diff properties, white tends to string more

if you want purely functional prints you might just want to go for 1 color

otherwise you might have to calibrate a bit for all of them

but having 1 million of black is sorta boring

all this printer talk is making me want to nab the p1p for tgat killer price

[lunar elm]

“whoever takes a shit in the toilet must have that fibre in him!”

but in all honesty LKY goat

[alpine patio]

icic good to know

[umbral heron]

Um... almost - you picked refills, not the whole spools, so you won't be able to use them in printer without spools https://eu.store.bambulab.com/products/bambu-reusable-spool

[alpine patio]

oh yea, i changed them when swapping to petg

[umbral heron]

[whole bramble]

might want to start with 1 roll of pla also petg tends to stick to smooth surfaces not sure if youd ideally want the hardened nozzle

whatever you do, do not print on a smooth plate lmao

[alpine patio]

got both no worries

hardened and textured

[frozen drift]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VvfHOj8U1Hw?

apple and razer becoming friends lol

https://rog.asus.com/keyboards/keyboards/aura-rgb/rog-azoth-96-he/

Actually, i'm not going to lie, this keyboard layout is pretty good IMO, at least you have pg dn pg up dedicated keys.

[halcyon moss]

i dont like it 🙂
but you know, its a preferrence

[frozen drift]

I actually never used a 96% layout before either

[old marlin]

That's 1800

[frozen drift]

my next keyboard will be either TKL or full-sized

[old marlin]

Not 96

[frozen drift]

1800??

[old marlin]

Yea named after the g80-1800

[frozen drift]

tbh 75% is also pretty good for me

[halcyon moss]

96HE in the name

[frozen drift]

no but isn't this like a 96% layout? or however you want to call it. Omitting the pg up/dn print screen home/end keys etc but retains the number pads

[old marlin]

There are a lot of 96% layouts but I would keep that name for non-exploded ones

[frozen drift]

non-exploded?

[umbral heron]

Like so

[marsh glade]

🤮

[umbral heron]

All keys are in a single block

[halcyon moss]

% names suuuck

[old marlin]

Yep

They kinda don't tell you anything outside the number of keys

[frozen drift]

what else do you need to know?

[halcyon moss]

ohyea that must be great to feel where you are

[old marlin]

How they are arranged

[frozen drift]

like whether the arrow keys are separated or spaced-out or not?

[old marlin]

There is a board that is in GB rn called etar87

[umbral heron]

Shift/Enter column is the only indicator there

[old marlin]

87 makes you think it is TKL

But it is fullsize without an f-row

[frozen drift]

okay what the f*#k, i'm so sorry but that's just FOUL

[old marlin]

That is why you got homing bars?

[frozen drift]

me looking at that makes me feel so disgusted because it's the opposite of what I would want. jesus

[magic minnow]

Wow sold out again

[old marlin]

Haribo making bank

[reef patrol]

Powerbank to be exact.

[fair gull]

not available in the EU anyway it seems (at least i couldnt find it)

[alpine patio]

looks like us only

[ashen spindle]

doesnt matter much the think is only marginally smaller than the normal 20k bank you can buy from xiaomi directly

people act like its the best deal ever, like nah if you are fine with a bit bigger in size you can just buy one for 5€ less even

[reef patrol]

Aside from the silly gummy bear cable, you could just slap a big sticker on a generic one.

[fair gull]

wer den cent nicht ehrt ist den euro nicht wert

[magic minnow]

That’s what makes it appealing the small size

And for 25$ it’s insane not to call it a good deal

I don’t have to carry my big ass anker now

[sudden imp]

Genuinely thought that was a vape

[rough osprey]

its on amazon

just sold out

[fair gull]

amazon.com yes

[rough osprey]

https://amzn.eu/d/37nhdAn

[fair gull]

oh i guess de also gets it

i dont

[rough osprey]

can u not import from de

[fair gull]

https://www.amazon.nl/s?k=haribo+power+bank

[fair gull]

doesnt let me ship to my address

[rough osprey]

rip

[warm ore]

use mailboxde

[rough osprey]

time to move

[fair gull]

i have a german address

i just aint gonna pay shipping on top

then i can get whatever other better powerbank

[rough osprey]

not haribo approved

[ashen spindle]

https://www.amazon.de/INIU-Minigröße-Handyakkus-Flashlight-Kompatibel/dp/B0DCJXYKYD isnt this just the exact same specs for the same price

same weight, same 20k rating

[fair gull]

better actually

has a display and more connection options

[rough osprey]

kinda weird that you cant use the integrated cable to charge it

[rough osprey]

heavier

[ashen spindle]

310 vs 313g is the same for me

[fair gull]

man you gonna feel those 3 grams

at the end of the day

[lunar elm]

alright enough said thats another 20kg added for toyota

[rough osprey]

haribo says 280g

[nimble arch]

[ashen spindle]

amazon listing is 310g

[lunar elm]

thats without the gummy bear

eat the gummybear and boom -30g

[fair gull]

oh no 30g

how will i survive

[rough osprey]

thats the reason it got popular in the first place

cuz its lighter then the carbon fibre nitecore one

and then it left the ultralight hiking / backpacking scene somehow

[rough osprey]

maybe with packaging?

also it says it needs a 12V battery lol

[ashen spindle]

idk buty even if its 30g lighter people make a deal out of it like its the second coming of sliced bread

[fair gull]

a powerbank without a battery.... doesnt work

[ashen spindle]

like at best you get 30g lighter of what you can get

[rough osprey]

dont think it would be 12V

[ashen spindle]

still dont own a single powerbank so not like it matters to me, just was very confused when people jumped onto social media posts of how this is an insane thing to happen

[rough osprey]

its nice for the ultralight scene (cuz the nitecore ones are like $150)

[fair gull]

i mean im more likely to lose more than 30g of fat during a hike than getting tired from carrying 30g more

[rough osprey]

but for normal people it doesnt matter

[ashen spindle]

yeah but surely for that you would also be happy to have the other one I linked already

[fair gull]

if you cant carry 30g more during a hike you should first hit the gym

[ashen spindle]

if its lighter sure I'd take the lighter one too, but I wouldnt replace it for just that or get one if I wasnt already thinking of buying a powerbank

[rough osprey]

more about backpacking then hiking i think

[fair gull]

all i see rn is the normal lower number - better even if it isnt

[lunar elm]

eat the gummy bear to transfer 30g over to yourself*

[fair gull]

so size matters more and 30g are still not important

[rough osprey]

for them it does

they be cutting off straps of their backpacks and like labels from clothing and tents just to save on weight

[fair gull]

yeah people really need to hit the gym

[lunar elm]

sorry your car doesnt match the BOP, we’re adding 20kg to the backpack

[rough osprey]

im pretty sure you gonna be pretty fit if you walk all day

[ashen spindle]

I mean sure for those people it matters but outside of that sphere its just people believing fake stuff that got hyped about it

the like twitter post blowing up about it was treating it like previously only 1k was possible in that size

[rough osprey]

lol

id buy one if it looked normal and the cable was usable for charging the powerbank itself

[ashen spindle]

"A gummy bear company casually dropping revolutionary battery technology" like no you idiot at best they got the same thing as the other company had and said lets not put the screen on it so we save money which ends up saving a few gram

[spring frigate]

I have been having a weird issue lately where my 80HE will work fine in wootility for a little while, I can make a change, then suddenly it will be disconnected in wootility and I have to unplug/plug in the keyboard to get it working in wootility again, but it won't be long before it gets disconnected again

[rough patrol]

do you have rgb software running?

[spring frigate]

Not that I know of. My keyboard is the only RGB peripheral I have

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[magic minnow]

@unkempt lake my friend wants a gaming laptop around 1500-2000$ budget any recommendations

[bright briar]

build a gaming pc

[magic minnow]

He wants it for on the go

[bright briar]

for that price is such a waste

you can build a stronger pc with that price then wasting it on a laptop

what games do they run atak?

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-16-geforce-rtx-5060-laptop-gpu-amd-ryzen-7-260-wqxga-32gb-memory-1-tb-pcie-ssd/p/N82E16834236636

https://www.newegg.com/hasee-t8pro-16-0-geforce-rtx-5070-laptop-gpu-i7-14700hx-qhd-16gb-memory-1-tb-ssd/p/2WC-004U-00058

in case you dont wanna click the link

[unkempt lake]

i can help

But yes what games what screen size

Do they care if its thicc

[magic minnow]

they don't

[unkempt lake]

Asus tuf a14 5070

@magic minnow

Its like 1700usd and should handle basically everything

[magic minnow]

I only see it with a 5060

[unkempt lake]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-18-geforce-rtx-5070-laptop-gpu-amd-ryzen-7-260-wqxga-16gb-memory-1-tb-pcie-ssd/p/N82E16834236631

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-18-geforce-rtx-5070-laptop-gpu-amd-ryzen-7-260-wqxga-64gb-32gbx2-memory-1-tb-pcie-ssd/p/N82E16834236663

@magic minnow dpeending on how much ram and storage your friend wants

[pale sigil]

I'm glad I didn't get that 9070xt tbh

@unkempt lake

[unkempt lake]

just enjoy the 3080 with your new cpu

[bright briar]

y

[bright briar]

he bought new cpu?

which juan

[pale sigil]

Not yet but I'm getting either 7800x3d or 9800x3d

Depending on 11.11 prices

[gusty kiln]

9070XT have reached msrp (600 USD) pricing in some regions

that's enough to pick it over a 5070ti

[sudden imp]

What kind of build you doing pleasant?

(Sff, midtower, etc)

[magic minnow]

https://www.thermaltake.com/minecube-360-ultra-argb-sync-aio-liquid-cooler.html

So powerful

[bright briar]

big cube

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-enterprise-enterprise-e-borg-borg-cube-gif-1786432550820233866

Wasted opportunity.

[thick elk]

Tip for people liking monitors, instead of sticking them in your case.
Why not use more you can actually use?

[crimson wigeon]

Because that doesn't look nearly as cool in the pics

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/iych-kamen-rider-build-仮面ライダービルド-sento-kiryu-rabbit-ptsd-gif-18707358

[rough osprey]

nice pc case

[reef patrol]

Koob

[true robin]

https://tenor.com/view/hermes-survival-minecraft-herobrine-gif-23340187

[marsh glade]

It has begun...

[dull hollow]

[steady sail]

[rough osprey]

whaat

[marsh glade]

FunkiFontiFuni

[analog sinew]

common discord L

[rough osprey]

thats been there for months lol

[tribal kelp]

[Notch] Markus Persson turned the Borg into a Chia Pet.

I think this every time I see Minecraft stuff.

[pale sigil]

It has been a rollout so not for everyone

[whole bramble]

After purchasing this, I realised my plan 1 year ago was to only live for 2 years, I also realised google does not intend for you to make calender bookings 9 years into the future
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1360350800236380380/1432778294620721304/image.png?ex=69039bc5&is=69024a45&hm=9f0e8352d8b40099ca7d4961538881972e752c755801f4d370749924da43193b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2186&height=83

[crimson wigeon]

What has, some special people can now make their names dummy thicc?

I don't see it

[rough osprey]

just font effect and stuff

for nitro

[analog sinew]

wait ur german?

[rough osprey]

vielleicht

[outer jetty]

Schriftart wählen 👹

[marsh glade]

English only in chat please

[magic minnow]

Thank you

[marsh glade]

De nada

[unkempt lake]

is moumounese allowed

[nimble arch]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[unkempt lake]

Rip moumou

[pale sigil]

Where she going

[unkempt lake]

Johners said to put her in jail

Scroll

[pale sigil]

lmao

[vapid ruin]

https://youtu.be/f3c4mQty_so

[reef patrol]

[frozen drift]

Wait I have a question

does the 80 HE have home/end button or ins/del button?

[lyric hatch]

It comes with the keycaps for them if you buy it pre-assembled just up to you which ones you opt for adding

[frozen drift]

so I can swap out home/end for ins/del or vice versa?

okay that's sweet/interesting

[marsh glade]

If a unicorn is a 1 billion dollar IPO, what is a 1 trillion dollar IPO?
https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-lays-groundwork-juggernaut-ipo-up-1-trillion-valuation-2025-10-29/

[ashen spindle]

Non profit open company btw

[umbral heron]

non-profit here means that they still didn't make profit

[marsh glade]

Ach what's in a byline? A clause by any other name is just as useless

https://tenor.com/view/prerevenue-revenue-plungefather-plungeon-topshotta-gif-27039403

[analog sinew]

the gall to talk about AGI in htat

[umbral heron]

https://www.businessinsider.com/open-ai-chatgpt-microsoft-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-authors-rr-martin-2025-10?IR=T

[analog sinew]

if you pirate a few books its jail for you

if they pirate everything all at once they get billions

[vapid ruin]

ahh, a for profit company controlling possibly GOD

[analog sinew]

god?

[umbral heron]

Given current US should there be an actual Rapture and actual Jesus H. Christ would show up... they'd nuke him and tell everyone that he was a fake

[frozen drift]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Y28Rhdyckk0?

[ashen spindle]

yes we know there are wooting knockoffs that just flat out copy the website and store design, nothing new

[lunar elm]

zach troll turf

[vapid ruin]

Undisclosed ads moment. $170 is kinda reaching the point where i say "just get wooting"

[frozen drift]

Lol, do you all like dislike companies like this? Tbh the market is seriously so saturated with wooting copy cats

Like tbh, only steelseries, corsair and even asus like makes HE keyboards but with differences

[ashen spindle]

everything that sells well has copy cats, best thing is just ignore it because nothing will change

[rough osprey]

i like my venom

[bright briar]

the keyboard or the anti hero from marvel?

[rough osprey]

keyboard

[steady sail]

https://fixupx.com/windowslatest/status/1983636728104808928

Windows Latest (@WindowsLatest)

A Windows 11 bug is duplicating Task Manager process when you use the 'X' close button to exit it.
︀︀
︀︀This means Task Manager won’t quit on Windows 11, sending each instance to background.
︀︀
︀︀It appears that the October 2025 optional update (Build 26200.7019/26100.7019, which released with new Start menu, accidentially broke Task Manager close button for some users (not everyone will run into this issue).
︀︀
︀︀If you're affected, don't use close button to close Task Manager, as it'll create ghost entries, which use your RAM and CPU.
︀︀
︀︀To exit Task Manager, use “End task” instead.

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FixupX · Oct 29, 2025, 8:47 PM

good job microsoft

[rough osprey]

lol

[reef patrol]

[vivid wigeon]

can confirm

worst part is that cpu usage isn't consistent but instead has significant spikes where it will use like 1-2% per instance (so 20 instances would be up to 40% cpu usage spikes)

[analog sinew]

"30% of our code is written by AI" aaah company

i mean closing a window on windows must be really hard

[vivid wigeon]

temporary fix is running taskkill /im taskmgr.exe /f in command prompt

[crimson wigeon]

AI AI AI AI

[marsh glade]

I don't think the engineers ever figured that someone might want to.... close windows

[umbral heron]

Terminal?! On Windows??!?!

[vagrant pagoda]

ikr who dosent use powershell

[vivid wigeon]

Microsoft engineers haven't even figured out that if i type the exact name of a program i have installed into the search bar i don't want to open my browser and look it up on bing

[marsh glade]

BING IT

[vagrant pagoda]

but only 80% of the time

sometimes it actually works

[vivid wigeon]

i remember when you used to be able to type math problems into search and it would solve them but for some reason they removed that in order to add bing to search

i think because it was technically a part of cortana but it worked even with cortana disabled

[crimson wigeon]

Ask copliot to solve your maths problems

[vagrant pagoda]

wolfram for that

[vivid wigeon]

i'd ask my cat before asking copilot

probably gives more reliable results too

[crimson wigeon]

Come on they've poured billions into it it must be good!

[vagrant pagoda]

like windows 11

[iron cloak]

Need help. Spilled water on a portion of the keyboard and now it turns on temporarily and the keys where it got wet turn red now? Unless it’s because it’s the wasd keys + 1,2.
Tried to blow dry the area and take out the keycaps + tactical

Think it spilled at the wire too for the keyboard. Making it temporarily working.

[vagrant pagoda]

take it apart and dry it out

and dont plug in

[vivid wigeon]

whatever you do do not power the board in any way while it's wet

corrosion happens significantly faster when you run power through it while it's wet

[bright briar]

@unkempt lake ram is now 320

[vagrant pagoda]

buy

[ashen spindle]

buy high sell low

[vagrant pagoda]

no sell

only buy

[bright briar]

no buy no sell

[bright briar]

i already got my ddr5 ram

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[vagrant pagoda]

i still got that ddr4 goodness

[vivid wigeon]

skipping ddr5 and going straight to ddr6 but not sure if i should upgrade now to 32gb

[bright briar]

ddr4 prices are going up but its not as crazy as ddr5 iirc

but i could be wrong

[umbral heron]

You'll wait like 2~3 more years for DDR6

[ashen spindle]

ddr6? you're loooong way out from that

[steady sail]

same

DDR4 FTW

[vivid wigeon]

they went up pretty hard already but they resumed production (after completely stopping it half a year ago or so) so it might go down significantly again

[vivid wigeon]

should be early 2027 iirc

[vagrant pagoda]

have 64gb running 4000 cl 16

[unkempt lake]

cringe

[ashen spindle]

dd6 starts in 2027 for servers, desktop we might not get it before 2030 (if at all)

[vagrant pagoda]

with 5800x3d

[unkempt lake]

Ddr4 still going up

[umbral heron]

With Zen6 on AM5... yeah, I don't think so

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah my buddy just got 64gb for his machine and paid more usedf than i did new

[bright briar]

got it from newegg. Asus rog strix b650e-f, 9800x3d and ddr5 32gb cl30

[ashen spindle]

we're not even guaranteed to get ddr6 on desktop

[vagrant pagoda]

high end ddr4 removed ram bottleneck and ddr5 killed it

i doubt even zen6 will have any memory bottle necks

we need more cores for it to matter

and games are barely using 12 threads

[unkempt lake]

• i got you thay ram deal before it went to dhit

[bright briar]

hopefully i was pissed off when the prices went up

[bright briar]

yesh yesh ty ty

[unkempt lake]

Gonna take a while

[vivid wigeon]

i can wait

not a problem

[unkempt lake]

This is worst than early ddr5 prices

[vivid wigeon]

so wild that memory companies can just openly do pricefixing and we're all just ok with it\

[vagrant pagoda]

doubt

unless china get ddr4 fab

[bright briar]

im more happy the bundle i got from newegg. $75 off plus it already had $50 off so in total i got $125 off

[ashen spindle]

ddr4 isnt getting restarted, at best some fabs delay the end of production

[unkempt lake]

Yeet

[vagrant pagoda]

china might add more ddr4

[ashen spindle]

yeah maybe but I'd assume they are more focused on ddr5 and lpddr5

[steady sail]

yeah they are pretty expensive, tbh the 2x16gb DDR4 kit is the same price as the 2x16GB DDR5 kit in Hungary

[vagrant pagoda]

they dont have it

delivers of ddr5 from cxmt has shiupped to 2026 now

[ashen spindle]

they are starting with lpddr5x as of like last week

(allegedly)

[vagrant pagoda]

the only product with cxmt ddr5 is lisuan

[ashen spindle]

yes I said lpddr5 and ddr5 is probably the thing they focus on afterwards

[vagrant pagoda]

they have zero desktop, mobile or embedded ddr5 products yet as yeid is so poor

so idk if they are ramping down ddr4 yet

[plush stirrup]

not much one can do about it, can't stop buying if you need it, can't buy somewhere else if they all increase their prices

[vivid wigeon]

Realistically governments should step in to prevent it but it's been going on for so long now that I doubt it will ever happen

[dull hollow]

US government is doing fuckall rn

[vivid wigeon]

Yeah and the eu parliament is too busy banning vegan sausages to do anything about it

[plush stirrup]

or trying to implement chat control 🥲

[wheat plume]

[tribal dirge]

I swear that looks exactly like iOS 18

[analog sinew]

its so fucking sad to see, the whole world is going to shit and instead of trying to maybe stay a piece of free world, the EU is like nah fuck that imma do the dumbest shit possible

[tribal dirge]

its still shut down LMAO, my friends who work gov jobs havent been paid in 2 months in some cases

[dull hollow]

and we just got rid of Food Stamps

[tribal dirge]

well shit

[dull hollow]

right like

[analog sinew]

leopardsatemyface is already lighting up with the magas

[plush stirrup]

if they keep trying to ban end to end encryption EU won't be so 'free' anymore pretty soon, won't be long since we have a Wechat like app after that

[analog sinew]

yes tahts what i mean

they are just following the growing authoritan trends and ofc suck corpo boot as usual

[dull hollow]

jobs for the government are yk supposed to be a stable income

[analog sinew]

could've been a lot better

[plush stirrup]

even big tech opposes these laws

[tribal dirge]

well damn

[tribal dirge]

that is going to be very hard to enforce lmao

[analog sinew]

its bollocks

[vivid wigeon]

We'll have wechat except with grok/copilot integration and constant onedrive popups

[analog sinew]

but they do it anyway

[fickle ore]

we need social point system ala china

[plush stirrup]

How so? they arrest you on suspicion of having say the app Signal installed, they make you unlock your phone, charge you if you actually have the app, it seems all legal in case they ever ban Signal.

[analog sinew]

we need to do something french and remind these people who holds the power

[fickle ore]

lol good luck

they only care about boomer votes in EU anyway

[analog sinew]

yea not happening lol

[tribal dirge]

I was thinking from an internet traffic control standpoint rather than that

but you bring up a valid point

[vivid wigeon]

At least china gets properly functioning public transport and social services in return for giving up their privacy

We don't even get that

[fickle ore]

It's actually best to vote for a party with lowest median age

doesnt matter left or right

[tribal dirge]

I use WeChat to talk to my relatives LMAO

[plush stirrup]

Well, once you can arrest people for having the app, said app usage will drop, so yeah... only limited people will remain using say signal, and they can just arrest those... and it'll start to look a lot like some other countries

[tribal dirge]

and yes the word censorship is true

happens all the time, we use workarounds and its funny

[plush stirrup]

And I wasn't even joking about the "make you unlock your phone" since that has been done where I live before...

[tribal dirge]

well that also means Apple iMessage will become illegal ig LMAO

since iMessage is E2E encrypted with AES-256

excessive? yes, but Apple already does it

[vivid wigeon]

Nah they'll just have a backdoor built in that will get found and exploited by hackers after a while

[plush stirrup]

Whatsapp is also somewhat encrypted not sure what/how but it'll change if it becomes law

Apple is also in China, they comply with laws there

[tribal dirge]

they dont, the US government already tried, they said "we cant, we simply cant decrypt the iCloud data"

[plush stirrup]

they'll just stop iCloud/iMessage or they'll be fined

it's that easy xD

[vivid wigeon]

They can't until there's a law that forces you to have a backdoor

[tribal dirge]

true

[rough osprey]

the ai is not able to build that :/

[analog sinew]

more toast then

[rough osprey]

[dull hollow]

well while trump spends $200 million on a new ballroom

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, interesting timeline we live in

[dull hollow]

worlds dying why not speed it up

[bright briar]

tariff money

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[jaunty rose]

Whole lotta switch 2’s

Wait these things are out??

[bright briar]

x ass rog for 599

[vivid wigeon]

But you get to use windows instead of steamos

[jaunty rose]

I cant tell if there’s only one because people are buying them or if they aren’t

[bright briar]

linux and steamos better

[vivid wigeon]

At a small cost of performance you'll get all the great windows features like the task manager bug or the ryzen performance bug or the multi monitor issues or bing or copilot or gamebar spying on you to train ai or windows update overriding your drivers

[unkempt lake]

Chinese bot spotted

[jaunty rose]

Dont look too bad but the deck looks better

[bright briar]

deck 2 coming soon

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[jaunty rose]

Valve releasing that new revolutionary vr headset soon trust

[halcyon moss]

No new vr headset first :p

[jaunty rose]

It’ll come with half life VR

Or CS vr

Or portal vr

Trust

[analog sinew]

the deck 2 will be both a vr headset and handheld trust

and it will release with hl3 as launch title

[halcyon moss]

There is already a hl vr

[jaunty rose]

Hl alyx 2

Hl gordon

Trust me Im valve insider actually who is deployed in Florida

Cause valve has secret offices in florida

Gabe like to swim in the florida beaches I seen him

[marsh glade]

I just want a Steam Controller 2

Hell, I'd be happy with the Steam Controller 1 going back into production

[leaden kiln]

new knuckles without stick drift

[vagrant pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY5Ak33rPg8

perpin finally

[unkempt lake]

Does it kill power if it detects shit fucking up

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah it dose

with warrenty

[unkempt lake]

nice

Every 12vhpwr card owner should have one of these

Until they add load balancing

[fair gull]

140bucks

[vagrant pagoda]

it has a connection to the mobo powerbutton

[unkempt lake]

Better than dealing with warranty or having a dead card with 0 warranty

[rough osprey]

nahh

[unkempt lake]

Or finding a repair shop to resolder a new connector, shipping it back and forth

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah on a 5090/5080 its worth it

[unkempt lake]

And even then sometimes the damage is more than just the connector

[fair gull]

not to mention i dont even know which orientation is which

[rough osprey]

maybe for like 50€ max

[unkempt lake]

I'd day its worth on a 4090

[vagrant pagoda]

up or down

[rough osprey]

even then the chance is so low

[fair gull]

no clue man

the last time i saw the connector is like a year and a half ago

[vagrant pagoda]

it was where the clip is

[fair gull]

(although i should really get a smaller cooler)

[vagrant pagoda]

wait not clip the sense pins

sense on pcb, clip on heatsink = normal

clip on pcb side, sense on heatink side is reversed

[fair gull]

mines like this

i guess heatsink side

[vagrant pagoda]

as someone who dose a shit ton of surveys for qa, i hate these the most

the pick on for each number

[analog sinew]

instead, have a drop down for each

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/issue-test-missile-hawaii-alert-gif-10807825

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-focus-shifts-to-rdna3-and-rdna4-rx-6000-and-rx-5000-lose-day-1-game-optimizations

[devout raptor]

i have a hunch the 5080 super will cost 2000

[analog sinew]

ai ai ai ai ai

aiai ai ai

-jensen hung

[fair gull]

getting the feeling it wont be compatible with my GPU

[umbral heron]

What if we take Jensen, and put him into GPU so he becomes AI

[sudden imp]

I give nokia 1 billion dollars then! I get 1000 BILLION dollars back!

[analog sinew]

the more you buy the more you save!

[sudden imp]

You see knowing its a bubble is part of the bubble

[analog sinew]

it's not a bubble, the line keeps going up!

(some unironically say this)

[umbral heron]

Being Big Tech company in US is fun nowadays
You can do whatever you want, you don't need to care
If line goes up you get richer
If line goes down you get bail out from government

[sudden imp]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-bubble-gum-bubble-pops-gum-all-over-face-gif-14607229

image related

[umbral heron]

Profits are privatized, losses are socialized
Amazing capitalist strategy

[marsh glade]

Capitalism is over

Inheritocracy now

[sudden imp]

your username is neat mark

[marsh glade]

Thanks

[umbral heron]

You know
Getting rich and all that
It's so much work
You know how much I had to inherit to be where I am?

[marsh glade]

A small loan of a million dollars from daddy?

[sudden imp]

you are telling me your father did not exploit people to get to a ridcious level of wealth?

[umbral heron]

My grand-grand-father was a real businessman
He did what he believed in
Along with several hundred of sl... unpaid workers

[unkempt lake]

What do you guys think about this

[sudden imp]

He was a true man of his morals

[unkempt lake]

I feel like it's a bit soon considering nvidia still has game optimisations and new features for the rtx 2000 series

[sudden imp]

As much as i would like longer software support for all devices. I think this makes sense for AMD as they are pivoting when it comes to the GPU market.

[unkempt lake]

Yeah but 5 years for rdna 2... kinda short

Rdna 1 i can justify but rdna 2 feels a bit too soon

Won't stop working but yeah

Kinda sucks especially when fsr4 int8 clearly works to some degree on rdna2

[umbral heron]

I mean
Nvidia can support older GPUs because they had CUDA support since ancient times
And there's nothing much they can do on these GPUs
So maybe it's a good thing? They won't break anything on older cards with updates

[unkempt lake]

Fsr4 int8

?

[umbral heron]

RDNA2 AI accelerators are... miserable to say the least, even when it comes to INT8

[unkempt lake]

But the leaked dll did kinda work

Sometimes

[umbral heron]

And you can still use it with OptiScaler

[unkempt lake]

I'd just have liked them to get some sort of official support too like 7000 series will

[umbral heron]

Or... install Linux, since they maintain RADV for everything back to 2015

[unkempt lake]

The drivers are being split off tho

But yeah open source will give cards more life on linux

But they'll still get bug fixes regardless its more about new features

I dont think amd will do the extra effort to have int8 fsr4 work better on 6000

Anyhow at least 7000 will get it and i'm happy as it shiuld get it since it actually has proper ai accelerators

[ashen spindle]

is a complete joke that rdna2 is in maintenance, you cant get new fsr redstone features sure but no game optimizations is disgusting

[vagrant pagoda]

welcome to amd drivers

[ashen spindle]

they just launched new mobile chips with rdna2 meanwhile on linux they added stuff to GCN 1.0

[unkempt lake]

Forgot about that it makes the rdna2 maintenance thing even stupider

Like rdna1 i get but 2?

I think its a bit too soon

[crimson wigeon]

It's ridiculous but oh well, another reason not to use Windows

Seems like a OS meant to increase the amount of e-waste 🤔

[ashen spindle]

the gtx750 still got updates up to this month

thats 11 years

rdna2 is 4 years and 11 months

[marsh glade]

Maintenance or feature updates?

[tribal dirge]

Ai will become an arms race at some point.

arguably it already has become an arms race

the US is trying so hard to limit China's computing capabilities to stifle their Ai developments

[ashen spindle]

full feature updates

[fair gull]

they at least got 1 number right

[ashen spindle]

or well, any game optimization from drivers, obviously not dlss updates etc.

[fair gull]

damn the 750 is actually still getting updates

latest game ready driver just works with it

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah how things have changed, back in the day it was AMD that had the "fine wine" reputation for long support

[fair gull]

idk if id buy nvidia just because of the driver longevity tbh with how bad some driver updates have been lately

not to mention while the driver may last your 12vhpwr might not

[ashen spindle]

its just another dumb decision by amd that wasnt needed at all

[fair gull]

i assume this also affects the linux side of things?

[crimson wigeon]

Nope, there they even fix things for the first generation GCN cards sometimes

[fair gull]

damn

[unkempt lake]

Fixes arent optimisations

[crimson wigeon]

Well they probably can't wring out much more performance from those old cards, but they will still also get as many updates as possible in the Vulkan side, so while games might fail on WIndows due to missing extensions they might just work perfectly on Linux. Actually already the case with games that require raytracing I think

[ashen spindle]

linux added something new for gcn 1, windows drivers wont get anything new for rdna2 lmao

[crimson wigeon]

True although in that case the analog video out support was a missing feature when using the new display code

So you had the awkward situation of having to choose between working support for modern fancy crap, or analog video out

[vivid wigeon]

700 ,900 and 1000 series driver support is supposed to end this year. Was already ended for 700 but 745 and 750 were still getting driver updates because they're based on Maxwell (900) not kepler (760+, some mobile chips and the gt1030)

[lyric hatch]

Well glad my 3060ti still has some driver support left in it

And I only picked it up because I sent my 5700 xt back

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/sama/status/1984025727763935585?s=46

Sam Altman (@sama)

GPT-6 will be renamed GPT-6-7, you're welcome

X · Oct 30, 2025, 10:32 PM

maybe OpenAi not so bad after all

[unkempt lake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/8wKbziFmD4

🤣

rdna2 igpu + rdna3/4 card = nowo

[lunar elm]

“i have decided i want to shit myself”

[unkempt lake]

Also i'd argue saying "just install linux" is very tone deaf

It's a bit like complaining about nvidia's linux drivers and saying "just replace it with an amd gpu" as a fix

It's a bad practice regardless of who does it

[tribal kelp]

"Just install linux" will inevitably lead to, "You didn't use Arch, so of course it's not perfect."

(or substitute any pet distro in place of arch; they all have their militant followings)

[unkempt lake]

And btw the same applies to saying just install windows as a fix for mp games having poop anticheat on linux

Idk everyone should have a nice experience

[tribal kelp]

What's unfortunate is that nvidia's gpu dominance has become so overwhelming that, "just get nvidia", as tone-deaf as it sounds, has some merit. It irks me to write that.

[frozen drift]

Lol AMD

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/s/oamCkrV9sU

[jaunty ivy]

thing is, there's no reason to get a radeon card if you're doing something that isn't gaming

[frozen drift]

I mean aren't they just cutting off support for RDNA 2 either way? I don't see how your comment is relevant to the situation. No offence, maybe I'm just dumb

[jaunty ivy]

Oh I wasn't talking about that reddit thing. I was already typing that message before you sent it

[frozen drift]

Oh lol, my apologies

I'm sorry 😅

[halcyon moss]

https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-strix-point-ubuntu-2510

Wow, quite the improvements

[umbral heron]

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/youtube-removes-windows-11-account-bypass-video-citing-guideline-violation

[nimble arch]

How long until they delist videos for rooting Android devices?

[ashen spindle]

probably already have

almost guaranteed this is just the autoflagging AI thinking its something else, nobodys manually taking down a video like this

[umbral heron]

I love AI
I love how unsupervised non-deterministic algorithms just run rampant across Internet and all industries causing removal of non-harmful content, while at the same time doing real harm in hands of medical insurance companies which use AI to determine if patient should get a treatment, yaaaaay

[vapid ruin]

For something that's often trained to be somewhat 'safe', it do sure be unsafe for everything else that matters.

[umbral heron]

Where it shouldn't be the case at all
LLM cannot be held responsible

[exotic plinth]

Atleast ZUS doesent use ai yet...

[marsh glade]

In five or ten years, we will all look back at generative AI as a neat parlour trick but generally worthless in real world applications

goes back to using generative AI to prepare the next month's worth of batch updates

[umbral heron]

In five or ten years...

I want solarpunk

[vapid ruin]

In that time, we'll be looking at AI like running an emulator

[reef patrol]

Time to dive deep into Anno 2070 😄

[umbral heron]

Oh well, it's a beautiful weather to dust off my trusty ship

[reef patrol]

There are ways around that.

Only thing you miss out on by bypassing the DRM is that whole global market thing, which is just player picked bonuses for the week? to production of something. Like a flat 20% to grain or something iirc

[marsh glade]

Anno: Pax Romana comes out soon

[reef patrol]

Ah that's true. Not really my preferred era, but worth trying at some point.

[marsh glade]

Yea it's on my wishlist to pick up on sale

[reef patrol]

At least it brings back the factions a bit. I missed that from 2070.

[old marlin]

Das neue Anno Mann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgHMA8nDq38

I love that ad

it's so good

[fair gull]

and i feel like its overpriced

[marsh glade]

Indeed

Hence wishlist + waiting for discount

Claire Expedition 33 or whatever it is called is on discount now, but not steep enough to temp me

[ashen spindle]

nono its steep enough

it will be better than you think

[marsh glade]

But my list of games to play is so long...

I bought Detroit Become Human recently, that was very heavily discounted

[ashen spindle]

trust me put it on top of the list

(despite it being french)

[marsh glade]

Ehhhhhh

I don't think I'll enjoy the experience any less in a year

[vagrant pagoda]

lmao rdna2 lost support before pascal

[fair gull]

yes you will cause they will have release baltimore become inhuman by then

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/hairspray-good-morning-baltimore-gif-10212787

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-colvin-the-wire-hamsterdam-jimmy-mcnulty-gif-2077743033806564219

[vagrant pagoda]

Wild to EOL the Xbox Ally like weeks after launch

[ashen spindle]

so for one maitenance branch isnt EOL

for another, ally and others are part of the semi custom, their driver updates are related to OEM contracts its not the same cadence as dGPUs

[halcyon moss]

this news is getting extremely overinflated

[ashen spindle]

its embarrassing and bad, but also overinflated yes

[halcyon moss]

indeed

[ashen spindle]

but they still need to be shamed and bullied into reversing this

[halcyon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah those integrated graphics drivers are such a fucking mess, you have to install the one from your OEM. So if they are not pushing out updates to fix things you are just fucked

And once again on Linux it just works, like why is Windows such a fucking shitshow when it comes to drivers it's supposed to be the other way around

[rough osprey]

https://fixupx.com/aaronp613/status/1984016669132661181?s=46

Aaron (@aaronp613)

WhatsApp has finally released a watchOS app!
︀︀
︀︀(Currently available for WhatsApp for iOS beta testers)

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FixupX · Oct 30, 2025, 9:56 PM

no way that didn't exist before

[leaden kiln]

I’ll use the reply feature on notifications but actually doing stuff in a messaging app on the watch isn’t very much fun

[nimble arch]

Hopefully this works for voice calls on WhatsApp

Always nice to leave my phone at home when I go for an elegant walk

[pale sigil]

Finally

[old marlin]

a watch app?

[crimson wigeon]

Why not

[nimble arch]

Smart watches are cool and very useful

Especially if you've got an eSIM installed

[vivid wigeon]

oh no...

[reef patrol]

Your first mistake was to keep using notepad/wordpad in 2025 😄

[fair gull]

yeah just pipe echo into a file

[reef patrol]

Notepad++ is such a simple QoL
Like installing WinRAR or 7zip and avoiding Windows' godawful archiver.

[vagrant pagoda]

sublime = winrar

[reef patrol]

Sublime is overkill for simple notepad use.

imo

[tribal dirge]

Rip RDNA 1 and RDNA 2

[frozen ingot]

not a good look to incentivize people to buy radeon

[minor citrus]

"just buy current gen" -amd probably

[frozen ingot]

who gonna spend hundreds on a gaming gpu that stops updating after 3-4 years

[reef patrol]

[steady sail]

oh nyo

[minor citrus]

killing Taskmanager with "End task" does indeed work at least, so there's a workaround

[marsh glade]

Just say no to Windows updates

[sudden imp]

Windows isn’t asking it’s telling you

[steady sail]

i know that, but i dont use taskmanager that often

[minor citrus]

Also I think both of those updates are only rolled out if you toggle the "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" switch

[unkempt lake]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/amd-clarifies-that-rdna-1-and-2-will-still-get-day-zero-game-support-and-driver-updates-discrete-gpus-and-handhelds-will-still-work-with-future-games

[umbral heron]

Someone got slapped for that

[dull hollow]

so will i still need to disable my igpu

[unkempt lake]

yes

[dull hollow]

alright ill do that now

before i forget again

[unkempt lake]

the installer still brokies lol

[dull hollow]

now where do i do that…

[umbral heron]

What motherboard do you have?

[dull hollow]

also should i turn on anything for my 9800x3d while im here

[dull hollow]

gigabyte

[umbral heron]

Ah, so just set Integrated Graphics to Disabled in UEFI

[frozen ingot]

so tldr they are doing it after all?

[dull hollow]

i only see integrated graphics under IO ports tab

[ashen spindle]

tldr move along nothing changed its all as it was 1 week ago

[unkempt lake]

Ye just set it to off

[dull hollow]

e okay

any other fun stuff i should have on/off

[ashen spindle]

no just keep default

[dull hollow]

pbo and expos already on

[vagrant pagoda]

"required by market needs" aka only when people complain

[umbral heron]

Do you want to spend next 3 hours tweaking RAM timings to achieve no discernible difference at all and just bump your Cinebench score by 20?

[ashen spindle]

if you arent playing at 1080p I'd even say turn pbo and expo off

[steady sail]

when AI ram timing tweaking

[vagrant pagoda]

even at 1080p if you have x3d you gotta be playing esports on low with a 300+hz monitor

[ashen spindle]

nah

because I dont assume someone on 1080p has a 5090

[vagrant pagoda]

?

if you dont have a 5080/90/4090 it isnt gonna get much more than 300fps even with good ram timings

[ashen spindle]

theres plenty of cases where you still get someone fps gains in 60fps titles if they are cpu bound

[steady sail]

[vagrant pagoda]

what game cpu binds on x3d at 60fps?

[dull hollow]

@unkempt lake

look how efficent my 9800x3d is

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean 0hz needs 0 volts which means 0 watts

[ashen spindle]

I mean personally I'm all for running jedec, I do it as well but you could say if this is the difference you are chasing it could be worth it

point is at 1080p there can be an argument, even if not a big one, above that there isnt really an argument

and I dont care enough to convince someone one way or another if there is an argument to be had

[vagrant pagoda]

thats also 133% power which 90% of users arent doing anyway

but yeah its very very limited

[ashen spindle]

I dont care, point is you can find ways

whereas in higher resolution you dont really see that difference anymore

[vagrant pagoda]

also 36/48 isnt jdec